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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh

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Speaker 1: Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant, Jerry, Jerome Roland, just

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Speaker 1: the whole the whole House Stuff Works gang here to

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Speaker 1: present to you stuff you should know, all three of us.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing good? Yeah? Yeah, Oh I'm a little caffeinated.

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Speaker 1: I should warn you a little bit, like when teeth

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Speaker 1: are about to just come right out of my face.

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Speaker 1: That's not good. Uh. You know, we did a video

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Speaker 1: about Cela Cants one time. Yeah, like was it this

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Speaker 1: day in history about when they were discovered. I ran

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Speaker 1: across it because it smacked is familiar to me, and

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Speaker 1: you know, the constant fear we have of recording an

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Speaker 1: entire podcast over uh is sort of always there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the fear that sometimes comes true. Yeah. So I definitely

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Speaker 1: went back and looked, and I was like, I new

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Speaker 1: we did something. Yeah, we were trapped in a shipping container, right.

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. I didn't either enough to say,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah I remember that. Yeah, that really weird, weird

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Speaker 1: thing we did. But this is really cool. I think

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Speaker 1: I need to Seela Cants were um, well they're interesting,

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Speaker 1: despite what the House Stuff Works article would lead you

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Speaker 1: to believe. It was. Yeah, it was a little thin,

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Speaker 1: was a little bit. It was all right. But luckily

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Speaker 1: the rest of the Internet is there for us. Right,

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Speaker 1: thanks especially to Smithsonian and mental Floss for this one. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that mental plus article is kind of neat, actually it was.

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Speaker 1: So you want to go back to the beginning, actually

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Speaker 1: the second beginning. Maybe, Well, I don't know what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about now, so just okay, Well we'll go back

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Speaker 1: to the very beginning. We'll go back to something about

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Speaker 1: four million years ago, doing the Devonian period, which is

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Speaker 1: a k a. The Rise of the Fish the Age

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Speaker 1: of the Fish, right, And in this Devonian period, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot a lot of stuff going on. Things have

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Speaker 1: been swimming around for a while on Earth. There's a

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Speaker 1: nice atmosphere that's developed. The things in the ocean are

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Speaker 1: starting to say, oh, what's out there? I want to

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Speaker 1: see what's on land. I want to just crawl out

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Speaker 1: and see. Yeah, I want to taste clover. So they

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Speaker 1: start trying. And during this period there was the progression

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Speaker 1: from the sea to the land, and one of those

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Speaker 1: things that was starting to develop legs to get onto

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Speaker 1: land was called the Ceila cant yeah, which um A

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Speaker 1: it means hollow spine, which is we'll get to there's

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Speaker 1: a reason for that. And B it's spelled c O

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Speaker 1: E l A c A n t h, which is uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, not how you would think it might be

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Speaker 1: spelled or pronounced rather either one. But it's sela camp.

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Speaker 1: It is sela can uh. And what it is is

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Speaker 1: a fish that is um, like you said, been around

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Speaker 1: for a long long time. It's um kind of funny looking.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get into all the physical characteristics that make

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Speaker 1: it unusual uh in a sec. But it is notable, uh,

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Speaker 1: mainly for the fact that everyone thought it was gone

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Speaker 1: forever until it was suddenly discovered. This thing that that

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Speaker 1: to the Cela can't, so it was quite a big surprise.

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Speaker 1: In the nineteen thirties when a trawler um that was

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Speaker 1: in and as was Captain Goosen's want, he contacted the

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Speaker 1: Miss Marjorie Courtney Latimer, and she used to come over

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Speaker 1: So she takes a look at this fish and here

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Speaker 1: It was covered in hard scales, and it had four

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Speaker 1: Uh not literally, of course. Uh, it was such which

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Speaker 1: is a significant fish and uh ms, Courtney Latimer talked

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Speaker 1: what you need for for um the idea fish. Apparently, well,

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Speaker 1: looking fish. And then Smith his quote was, I told

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Speaker 1: So they have now discovered this thing. They realized that

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Speaker 1: all shapes and sizes. Um. These obviously were pretty big,

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Speaker 1: four limbed animals. And apparently once the genome came around

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00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: and said now a little disappointing, they said, yes, we're

424
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: all related. Technically, we are all um what are known

425
00:26:52,920 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: as sarcopterygians okay um, which means we are fleshy limb vertebrates.

426
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: So we're all that. So we are related, but it's

427
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: not like our direct ancestor. In fact, we're more closely

428
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: related to the lungfish than the seila can'ts. But the

429
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: seila can'ts holds this place of honors, probably living on

430
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: something of its own branch uh and is a very

431
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: close cousin, if not bro, of the lung fish. So

432
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: we're related by marriage right to the seal It can't say,

433
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: but we legally we probably could marry a sela can't

434
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: and have it not be super creepy except for the

435
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: thet it's a fish. I feel it's a fleshy, lobed

436
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: thin stroking the back of your head as you kiss it.

437
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: I got something for you that was I'm just walking

438
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: right past that one. Um. They taste gross, so don't

439
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 1: think it's some weird delicacy, right, uh not? You know

440
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: that there are that many of them to eat, But

441
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: apparently if you do eat them, they can make you

442
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: sick because these things are filled with urea, with oil,

443
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: with wax, esther and fat like ninety eight point five

444
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: percent fat. That's just in its skull. Oh I thought

445
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: that was the whole body. No, it's it's brain occupies

446
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: one point five of the area inside its skull. The

447
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: other is fat. And that's at the point that they're

448
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: an adult, right. Yeah. Supposedly their brains are bigger proportionately

449
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: when they're younger, and they just stay there. Yeah, they're

450
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: frozen in uh, perpetual like I guess toddler hood pretty much.

451
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: They love life. Yeah, no responsibilities, no bills, exactly. What

452
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: else I got one for you? Okay. Vestigial lungs Oh yeah, man,

453
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: I love these things. So they grow, They had CT

454
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: scans done and this is from the mental flass article

455
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: of these embryos, and they start growing little lungs uh

456
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: early in the gestation period and it slows down a bit,

457
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: and then by the time they're an adult, the organ

458
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: serves no purpose. Yeah, it's just there. Yep, that's a

459
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: good one. It is. It was. It's almost like the

460
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Cela canth was an attempt and evolutionary attempt, and it's

461
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: just like, I'm gonna scrap this design. Let's move on

462
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: to the long fish. Yeah maybe so you know, um,

463
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: one of the things that struck me though, Chuck, was

464
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: when they were talking about how a couple of females

465
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: that had fully formed young yeah in them, ready to

466
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: be born, were caught. It's like that was a lot

467
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: of the Cela canth population that got wiped out with

468
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 1: those two caught fish. Yeah. I mean, if there are

469
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: only hundreds, then everyone matters. Yeah. They think that there's

470
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: possibly about a th thousand of the ones that live

471
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: around Indonesia and far fewer of the ones that live

472
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: off of the west coast of Africa on the western

473
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: side of the Indian Ocean. Um. And as a result,

474
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: both of them are on the Endangered Species list. They're

475
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: both protected. The problem is that if something happens to

476
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: these species and these species die out this time, the

477
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: whole order is gone, um for good this time around. Yeah,

478
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: unless we revive them, uh with some of their DNA. Alright,

479
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: I got one last one um And this was on

480
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: Mental Flosses list as well, under the title A prominent

481
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: hematologist once wrote a celacanth operetta A right, So that's

482
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: an attention grabber. Apparently there was a man named Charles

483
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Rand of Long Guideland University, and he was a hematologist,

484
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: and um was doing some work with the Cela Camp

485
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: and uh, this is when the big revelation was. They

486
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: learned that it gave birth to live young. And he,

487
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: I guess, was a music guy and decided to write

488
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: a little operetta about this discovery titled a Cila Camp's

489
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: Lament or Quinn Tuplets at fifty fathoms can be fun

490
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: all song to the tune of various Gilbert and Sullivan songs. Right,

491
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: that's a hematologist for you. I have no comment on that. Well,

492
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean it speaks for itself other than I wish

493
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: this was on tape somewhere. Surely it's on YouTube. Everything's

494
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: on YouTube, you think, yeah, sure, you want to go

495
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: over some of these other quote living fossils end quote Yeah, Um,

496
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: so again there was there's some fishes out there that

497
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: may have made the jump kinda to land or on

498
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: most did or what have you. But there's there's some

499
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: interesting fishes that are worth mentioning. Speaking of making the jump,

500
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: did you see that shark that jumped into the boat

501
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: the other day? There was a fisherman, Uh, and I

502
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: guess the shark just did you know one of their

503
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: famous uh it was a great white did one of

504
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: its breeches where they just jump out of the water.

505
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: Missing did that and landed in a dude's fishing boat. Uh.

506
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: And he got banged around a little bit but was

507
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: not like, you know, a bitten or anything, and basically

508
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: went into his little control room I think, and called

509
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: for help. And this shark like, I mean, it was

510
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: kind of sad. I think the shark just died. But

511
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: there were pictures of it. It's it's huge, it's like

512
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: eight ft long. It was not a little guy. Yeah,

513
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: do you imagine? No, Oh my god, that guy did

514
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: the right thing. He ran. He pooped his pants too. Yeah.

515
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: I may have jumped into the water had that happened. Alright.

516
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: So living fossils um, the bow fin, yeah, the dog fish,

517
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: mudfish or grindel I like dog fish. Yeah, this guy,

518
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: I looked all these up, lily. He lives in the

519
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: Mississippi River basin, in the Great Lakes and other places. Um,

520
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: and are pretty mean supposedly like eats small mammals, snakes, frogs,

521
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: other fish like they'll they'll go after you. Um. It's

522
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: sort of normal looking, just sort of a long fish. Uh.

523
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: Nothing remarkable as appearance wise, though, I'll tell you one

524
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: that's remarkable appearance wises. The gar. Yeah, you know, I

525
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: just saw a long nosegar so ugly last weekend and

526
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: I was like, it was floating dead in a lake.

527
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: I was like, what in the world. Because I went

528
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: by it at first, I was like, was that a swordfish? Like, well, no,

529
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: it's not a swordfish. But in the long nose ones,

530
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean this this thing had a he had a

531
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: twelve inch beak. I mean it looks prehistoric. Yeah, they

532
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: very much do look prehistoric, which is one of the

533
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: reasons why they're called a living fossil um. And they

534
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: are just mean. Apparently they're known to kill other fish,

535
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: even not even to eat them, just because they were

536
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: in their way. Basically, like you see this nose. Yeah,

537
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: and you can't eat gar. They're inedible and as a

538
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: matter of fact, if you eat their eggs, it will

539
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: kill you. They're very toxic to humans and they just

540
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: go around killing other fish, So they're not the best

541
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: thing to have in your like if you like to

542
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: fish in a lake. No, and they did you ever

543
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: see Vernon, Florida the documentary? No, I've never seen that one.

544
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: By the great Errol Morris. It has uh one of

545
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: the interviews, it's one of my favorites, as with a

546
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: guy talking about talking about the garfish. Really, yeah, I

547
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: gotta see that one. Come across one of those. Oh boy,

548
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: I finally saw a thin blue line for the first time.

549
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good one. It's really You probably

550
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: saw it after the parody of documentary Now, I definitely did.

551
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: I saw the documentary now on which they nailed like,

552
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: it's like perfect. They really one of the great shows. Uh,

553
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: what's the next? Hagfish? Yeah, mud dwellers. Yeah, they basically

554
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: look like eels, but their fish. But the interesting thing

555
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: about hag fish, aside from the fact that they don't

556
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: have any eyes, is that they eat fish from the

557
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: inside out. Yeah. I think you underplayed it when he

558
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: said they basically look like eels. It looks like something

559
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: out of Dune. Okay, like the body looks like an eel.

560
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: But have you seen the front end of this thing? Sure,

561
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: it's frightening. And to think about that crawling up in

562
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: you and eating you from the inside out, right, because

563
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: if you're dead or dying fish and you're like, oh man,

564
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: I hope, I hurry up and die before a hagfish

565
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: five and a hagfish swims down your throat and then

566
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: eat you from the inside out. That's a bad day.

567
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: That's not a good death. And then lastly, what about

568
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: the sturgeon. I love the sturgeon. Did you know that

569
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: they they are both freshwater and saltwater here in North America?

570
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: I did not know that, But um, I know one

571
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: thing is they're huge. Yeah, they get up to like

572
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: twenty ft long. Yeah, and I didn't I didn't see

573
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: any pictures of him that big, but I've seen pictures

574
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: of fishermen with like sturgeon that looked like they're at

575
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: least eight or nine feet long. Uh. And they're crazy looking. Yeah. Well,

576
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: the reason I was surprised that they are largely North

577
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: America's I always associate them with, um, the Baltic area

578
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: where they they're the beluga sturgeon is prized for its

579
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: caviar I always think of, I think sturgeon. No, I

580
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: didn't realize that that's where bluga came from either. Uh.

581
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: And they have armor like skin, and they're they're these

582
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: retractable mouths that I guess there are different varieties, but

583
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: some of them look almost like alligators from like the

584
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: head forward. Yeah, they're weird looking fish. Yeah, but they

585
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: don't want to hurt anybody. They just want you to

586
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: eat their eggs. Is that true? They're like the giving

587
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: tree of the lake. All right, up with sturgeon? Uh

588
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: you anything else? I got nothing else? But if you

589
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: want to know more about living fossils, like uh, you

590
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: know Cela, cants or us Right, you can type those

591
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: words in the search bar at how stuff works dot com.

592
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: And since I said search farts, time for a listener mail.

593
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this My mom married Bob Doro. You

594
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: see that one, right? And I thought it was because

595
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: that was the subject line. And then the very first

596
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: line of the email was sorry about that attention grabbing

597
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: subject line. And I thought it was a lie because

598
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: a lot of times people say something remarkable in the

599
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: subject line that is completely false, which always ticks me off.

600
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: But this is true. Uh, my mom married the wonderful,

601
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: talented and sweet Bob Doro twenty three years ago. And uh,

602
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: if you didn't listen to the show, Bob Dora was

603
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: um part of the genius behind Schoolhouse Rock. Um, maybe

604
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: you know the original genius. It was wonderful to hear

605
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: you two speak so highly of them in your recent podcast.

606
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: My own family listens to you guys a lot, so

607
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: to hear you speak of our Bob with such reverence

608
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: it warmed our hearts. Whence you meant? You mentioned earlier

609
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: in your podcast that you wished you could have gotten

610
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: Bob on the show. I wanted to jump through my

611
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: phone to say I can make that happen. Bob learned

612
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: about you guys about two weeks ago when we took

613
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: a short road trip for Mother's Day and listen to

614
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: the grave Robbing episode. Um, how awesome is that? I

615
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: know the guy listen to us right before we released

616
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: the Schoolhouse Rock episode. Yeah, it's primed and ready to

617
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: hear us mention it fortuitous, huh. He chuckled off, and

618
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: during the ride, and when we got to our destination,

619
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: he asked something to the effect of who are those

620
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: comedy guys? They're good man. That made me feel good. Uh,

621
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: And then to have the Schoolhouse Rock episode pop up

622
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: a few weeks later, it was like whoa. You guys

623
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: were spot on in your characterization of Bob as a

624
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: creative genius. A lot of his genius comes from his

625
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: hard work. The age of ninety three, he is still

626
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: traveling the world taking gigs. Uh. My mom often complains

627
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: that he doesn't know how to say no. Thank you

628
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: for giving Bob and schoolhouse rockets proper due. Next time

629
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: you come up the coast the northeast, that is will

630
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: be there and I'm sure Bob won't say no. And

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