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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you our TPT family. You know some.

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Speaker 2: We happy to have you on the show. It's been

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Speaker 2: a long time coming. Glad you're part of the team,

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Speaker 2: and shout out for TVT to you know, have you

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Speaker 2: part of the family, So it's only right for us

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Speaker 1: On the show.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you first got to the w n B

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Speaker 2: A who's the first person to bust.

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Speaker 4: Your us, Tiffany Hayes, no question, just retired, just retired. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was our like, you know, the first scrimmages that

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Speaker 3: It was a big adjustment.

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Speaker 5: Yo, yo yo. We live on location.

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Speaker 6: We in at at L Shorty and we dream in

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Speaker 6: the day Baby, were in town for the w NBA Spinals.

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Speaker 6: We got a little the AKA sometimes. I hope we

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Speaker 6: got Miss Hayley Jones in the building. Stanford's finest. She's

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Speaker 6: bawling for the at L dream. She's chilling with the knuckleheads,

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Speaker 1: Santa Cruz.

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Speaker 2: We just interviewed our guy from Santa Cruz, Aaron Gordon,

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Speaker 2: and he had a great, great interview with AG for

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Speaker 2: Santa Cruz.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about Santa Cruz. Growing up in Santa Cruz.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not known for basketball at all, it's not.

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Speaker 4: It's known for surfing farmers' markets and anything.

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Speaker 3: Like your depiction of California that's.

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Speaker 5: You grew up like Bell.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't know about to say about the bell,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, no, I grew up just on the beach,

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Speaker 4: back into the beach, do whatever. But Aaron Gordon went

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Speaker 2: So soccer, gymnastics. What made basketball stick out more than

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Speaker 4: Well, actually it didn't for me. I was always like,

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Speaker 4: I want to play soccer. Well it was more so

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Speaker 4: my mom made the decision. She was like, actually, heally,

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Speaker 4: I think you're better at basketball. So you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: So you didn't think you was better. You thought you

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 3: That I do?

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Speaker 5: I do?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she actually tell me all the time she was

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Speaker 2: So when did it get to the point where you

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Speaker 4: I think, well, I mean once you get to high

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Speaker 5: What was your first offer did you get?

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Speaker 4: Your first call was to UC Santa Barbara. It was

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Speaker 5: I remember we used to go there for the Georgia camps.

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Speaker 4: I went to the camps when I was younger.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't born to one, so I would have not

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Speaker 2: You like basketball? You like sock, you like gymnasty? Who

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Speaker 4: Tamika Catchings was my idol growing up. There's yeah, there's

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Speaker 4: picture of me in our cul de Sac. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be just like her.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's just because, like when you watch

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Speaker 5: Have you got to meet her since being in.

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Speaker 4: I think I met her like once in college, but

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Speaker 2: That's why all around to me, we got to make

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Speaker 4: Yeah, please?

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Speaker 2: What so Natesmith Player of the Year McDonald's all American?

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Speaker 2: Did you pay attention to that? Before you you had

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Speaker 4: I think McDonald's maybe a little bit, Naysmith not at all.

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Speaker 4: Like that just seems so far fetched that when you're

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Speaker 3: Unheard of territory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, McDonald's game. How was that to be announced to

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Speaker 1: playing the McDonald's game? And where was you McDonald's game

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Speaker 4: Was here in Atlanta? We played a stafe farm. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so it's very full circle when I got some. But

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Speaker 3: My entire school was there and.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, like you you'd be at

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Speaker 2: Like you was getting all the props, Like that's kind

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Speaker 4: At Yeah, I think, nah, you're right. My high school

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Speaker 4: We're in math class talking about it. So I did

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Speaker 3: Playing them, whooping them. The whole school wants to come watch.

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Speaker 4: So then it's like, oh, oh okay, they don't really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, could it.

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Speaker 2: Have been anybody else? But Stanford, Like could anybody else?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I never really had a dream school. Stanford

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Speaker 4: So Stanford's hard to pass up. And I mean the

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Speaker 4: And I mean my grandparents had season tickets, all our

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Speaker 3: So it was kind of the best of both worlds.

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Speaker 2: Was it a school that you almost went to? It

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really hard for me. It kind of

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Speaker 4: Literally everybody else in my class had signed. I was

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Speaker 4: it was really came down to South Carolina, Connecticut and Stanford.

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Speaker 4: But after conversations with my family, Stanford ended up being

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Speaker 4: the best one I know.

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Speaker 1: Gino was pissed.

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Speaker 5: How was it when you get to campus?

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Speaker 6: Was it like, you know, this is your first time

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Speaker 5: How was that adjustment for you?

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Speaker 4: But I mean, Stanford's really a different breed because like,

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Speaker 4: You're like, all right, I'm top dog. You pull up,

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Speaker 6: Yeah damn ya wait you talking about like it was

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Speaker 4: Like it's nothing.

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Speaker 3: So it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: No you hear Stanford, you think just genius and everybody

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 4: There's definitely a level of excellence that's required at Stanford.

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Speaker 4: Like in my freshman dorm, you have like your dorm

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Speaker 4: But you know, you have to play it cool because

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Speaker 2: You in high school, and you know, after you play

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Speaker 2: How was it to adjust to her and not the

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Speaker 2: it comes from a loved place. Well, how was it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tar's a hard coach to play for. But I

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Speaker 4: But I think with Tara, it's like she holds you

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Speaker 6: How was it for you as a freshman? You get

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Speaker 6: I'm always interested to hear about the athletes that you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was horrible, right.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even imagine not do that again.

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Speaker 3: It was horrible.

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Speaker 4: So, like Stanford, you got kicked off campus, you had

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Speaker 3: I had to find people.

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Speaker 6: But how hard was it to you know, physical therapy

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Speaker 3: I'd jogged back and I'd be like, had it look

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Speaker 4: Because they don't see me, I'm just like slowly running

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Speaker 4: Then we try to do a sideways view, and I'm

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Speaker 2: What clicked this season for y'all to win the national

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Speaker 3: Off that, Yeah, it really was.

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Speaker 4: During COVID, Stanford didn't allow their athletes to be on campus,

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Speaker 4: We lived out of suitcases, hotel to hotel. We only

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Speaker 4: So by the time it got to the tournament, we

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Speaker 4: there was a lot of friction. Teams weren't getting long

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Speaker 3: We played ping pong, we played board games every day together.

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Speaker 4: So I think we just had this added level of

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Speaker 6: How was it for you like after, like you said,

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Speaker 6: all of the stuff you just talked about, Like how

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Speaker 6: Like when it's like like you said, everybody you see

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Speaker 5: Like, how was that for you and your teammates?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was hard not to let all

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Speaker 3: To the occasion to play where you usually play at.

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Speaker 4: So I remember we had conversations with our staff, but

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Speaker 3: We want to play how we usually do.

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Speaker 4: So if that's a seven out of ten for you energy,

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Speaker 3: Point and don't go above or below that.

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Speaker 4: So just having those conversations where it's understanding the moment

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Speaker 6: Would you say that winning you know, not only winning

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Speaker 6: the Final four, well winning national championship, but being named

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Speaker 6: most Outstanding Player that added a lot of pressure for

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Speaker 6: you individually? What was what was that like for you

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Speaker 6: to be once again you went through knee injury, COVID

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Speaker 6: you not only win a national championship, you the you

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Speaker 6: the shit, you the player that Yeah, Like what's that

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Speaker 6: like then? Like you say, and winning sports, it's not

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Speaker 6: like how it is for me? And like if I

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Speaker 6: do what you did, I'm now Yeah, I'm gone after that, Right,

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Speaker 6: that's just the reality basically what we do it we

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Speaker 6: to know that you gotta come back? And like you say,

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Speaker 6: it's all of this excellence at Stanford, but now you

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Speaker 6: got you just set a higher bar for you just

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Speaker 5: How is that for you mentally?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean for sure, if y'all would have you're out.

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Speaker 4: I mean I wrote a final paper the next day.

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Speaker 4: We have finals that week, Like we're right back.

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Speaker 6: Into I don't care what's going on if we're leaving

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Speaker 5: Play right or wrong?

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Speaker 1: Next week.

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Speaker 4: I mean both years we were in the final four,

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Speaker 3: Ain't Yeah, just a.

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Speaker 5: Lot of too extend that thing you ain't for me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think like winning it and going back,

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Speaker 4: it's definitely it grounds you. Like I'm really like yeah, sure,

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Speaker 4: I'm doing my thing whatever.

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Speaker 5: That paper Stafford wasn't let me tell.

445
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Speaker 3: You serious, ain't no bs and that you got to

446
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Speaker 3: do it.

447
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Speaker 4: So I think it was really easy to come back

448
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,919
Speaker 4: down to earth after that, honestly, and I was like,

449
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,639
Speaker 4: when you win in at you, when you win MOP,

450
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,359
Speaker 4: it doesn't really feel real. So I feel like it

451
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 4: didn't really kick in until like the interviews afterwards that

452
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 4: everybody's asked me about it. It really felt surreal for

453
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Speaker 4: quite a long time. So I think, you know, the

454
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Speaker 4: MOP whatever just add a motivation where I'm like, Okay,

455
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Speaker 4: next year and now I want to do this. I

456
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 4: was first teo my PAC twelve and I want to

457
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Speaker 4: go for Player of the Year. Now I want to

458
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Speaker 4: do this and that. So I think it helped me

459
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Speaker 4: just kind of set more goals for the next season.

460
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Speaker 2: Winning so early and then you have to play another

461
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Speaker 2: two years? Is it mentally draining? Like you know, you

462
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 2: play your freshman year and I know, coked, but you

463
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 2: win a championship your sophomore year, you go play South

464
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 2: Carolina your junior year, and then your senior year you

465
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 2: lose second round. It it's not really the physical like

466
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 2: y'all putting in all the work y'all pupposed to put

467
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Speaker 2: in to go to Final four.

468
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Speaker 1: Year after year.

469
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Speaker 2: But mentally people don't know how hard it is to

470
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Speaker 2: kind of stay becus and stay locked in to really

471
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Speaker 2: win this game and be on the top of your game.

472
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Speaker 1: Because once you win the championship, spotlight on you.

473
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Speaker 4: Oh for sure, you got a target on your back

474
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 4: like all summer long. But I think after you win

475
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 4: it for us and for my class specifically us happening

476
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Speaker 4: it being our sophomore year, it was just motivation to

477
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Speaker 4: win the next the rest of the year, so like

478
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Speaker 4: next year, get into the Final four, like we needed

479
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 4: to get there. There was no other option because with

480
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Speaker 4: COVID ending our freshman season, we didn't know how a

481
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Speaker 4: real season ended without winning a NATI. So it's like

482
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Speaker 4: how else do you do it? So I think that

483
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Speaker 4: mental aspect of like the motivation was there, but then

484
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Speaker 4: it's also like you're putting too much pressure on yourself.

485
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Speaker 4: You're putting all these expectations on your back to achieve

486
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Speaker 4: what you did, and it's it's really hard to win

487
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Speaker 4: the Natty.

488
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Speaker 3: It's really hard.

489
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Speaker 1: How was to have a teammate that can dunk?

490
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so sick.

491
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Speaker 4: But I'm like, halfway through the season, you're like.

492
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Speaker 3: Okay, we get it.

493
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Speaker 4: You don't like there's no ideal about it, Like every

494
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Speaker 4: one of the fans go crazy. And then she's trying

495
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 4: to dunk. Get practice and we're like, girl, if you

496
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Speaker 4: don't just make a layup, like gonna make us run

497
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Speaker 4: if you miss, I'm not doing this.

498
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Speaker 2: When you first seen it, how amazed was you at

499
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Speaker 2: your female dunk on the goal?

500
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Speaker 1: This would have easy.

501
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Speaker 4: Guys like, well, I mean I've known friends since I

502
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 4: was before we went to Stanford, Like you put on

503
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 4: a USA team together in high school, so I got

504
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: to see your dunk back then. But seeing it kind

505
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 4: of become what it did was really cool to be

506
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Speaker 4: her teammate during that.

507
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Speaker 2: In the future, do you feel that how many years

508
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Speaker 2: you feel like women should have to go to college

509
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Speaker 2: before they can turn pro. Do you feel like it's

510
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 2: two years, three years? Guys can do one and done.

511
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like that? Because I feel like sometimes

512
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: like you play four years and it just be so much.

513
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Speaker 2: It's time to when you feel like, you know, you

514
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: proposed to win a year or two ago, it's like

515
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Speaker 2: what I'm doing here?

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think it's hard to have an

517
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Speaker 4: answer for that because on one end, yeah, I think

518
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 4: as the game evolves and women are getting so much

519
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 4: better at such a younger age, they for sure could

520
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 4: go to the league after one maybe two years. But

521
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Speaker 4: I think it's also different for female athletes because you

522
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 4: have to think about the reality of what the paid

523
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 4: differential is right now.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

525
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Speaker 3: Sure, the degree helps you a lot, think Yeah.

526
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Speaker 4: I mean, for me, part of the reason I went

527
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Speaker 4: to Stanford was because of that, to set myself up

528
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Speaker 4: for that, you know, twenty forty years after my career

529
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 4: is done, because not everybody gets to have a super

530
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Speaker 4: bird twenty year career, so you never really know what's

531
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Speaker 4: going to happen with that. There could be injuries, there

532
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 4: could be just you know, there's only one hundred and

533
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 4: forty four spots in the league right now, who knows

534
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 4: if you're gonna make that year in the year out.

535
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Speaker 4: So I think when it comes to female athletes, I

536
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Speaker 4: think there should definitely be an option as they're in

537
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Speaker 4: for men. Like, sure, you could go after one or two,

538
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Speaker 4: but I don't think it's going to become the normal

539
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Speaker 4: for quite some time until a lot of things change

540
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Speaker 4: in terms of Yeah, money in the league, spots in

541
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Speaker 4: the league just a lot of different.

542
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Speaker 6: With you winning the Natty being the most outstanding player

543
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 6: and then nil, Like how was that for you? Obviously

544
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 6: you family, we've seen you, you benefited greatly from there,

545
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 6: Like how was that for you? And how did you

546
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Speaker 6: like navigate the newness of it and how to handle it?

547
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Speaker 6: I mean, from the looks of it, you made out well,

548
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 6: you benefited from it in a good way. But like

549
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Speaker 6: when it happened, what was that for you? Because it

550
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 6: was so new, nobody knew what was going on? How

551
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 6: did you go about attacking it? And just like how

552
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Speaker 6: did you feel when you heard like, oh shit, we

553
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 6: could make money like that? And then like when you

554
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 6: really started to begin making money, like you doing endorsements,

555
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 6: Like how was that for you like everything being so new,

556
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 6: and I mean it for you it came at the

557
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 6: absolute best time ever, coming off the National Chip and

558
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 6: most outstanding player, and so how was that for you? Yeah?

559
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Speaker 4: I think when it first came out, it was like, Okay, shoot,

560
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: we can make money.

561
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Speaker 3: How am I going to go about this?

562
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Speaker 4: But then taking a step back, there weren't a lot

563
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Speaker 4: of regulations around it, and also like these companies are

564
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 4: just kind of throwing these quick cash grab deals with you,

565
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: these one offs, and that wasn't really what I was

566
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: interested in doing. So I looked into finding an agency,

567
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: signing with them first and really looking into an agency

568
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 4: that would align with my goals on the court, but

569
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Speaker 4: also off the court and thinking about my retirement and

570
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Speaker 4: signing these longevity deals and so signing with an agency

571
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Speaker 4: talking about what I want to do, how I really

572
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: want to like build out my brand, what I want

573
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Speaker 4: to stand for. A big thing for me is like

574
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Speaker 4: being authentic one because I feel like people can see

575
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: through you when you're not. But also I'm a horrible liar,

576
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 4: Like I ramble, I sweat, I get nervous, So I'm

577
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: like I need my audience to understand that I'm only

578
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 4: going to push things that I really believe in, products

579
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Speaker 4: that I use. So once I found the agency I

580
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: wanted to work with, it was smooth sailing.

581
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Speaker 6: Same agenty i't will you know, shag you got some

582
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Speaker 6: heavy you know, little cys onto the own smell.

583
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Speaker 3: They're the best.

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Speaker 4: So I think once I found them, I really got

585
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Speaker 4: to figure. You know, I want to sign not just

586
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 4: a quick cash grab. I want to work with the

587
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Speaker 4: company where I'm really a partner. I'm not just kind

588
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 4: of like a face. So signing five year deals that

589
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: are now still with me and my WNBA career are

590
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 4: really exciting.

591
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Speaker 2: What made you want to do the podcast your last

592
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: year of college?

593
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Speaker 1: Like, what was intriguing for you to do?

594
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Speaker 5: Sometimes, I hope if y'all ain't checked it out, go

595
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Speaker 5: ahead and check it out right now.

596
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Speaker 6: To the Players Tribune, host with the Most is right here,

597
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Speaker 6: the hostess with the most feel y'all go check it out,

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Speaker 6: subscribe and do all of that follow Sometimes she who

599
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Speaker 6: hey me Jones, but go ahead.

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Speaker 4: No, I appreciate it.

601
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Speaker 3: A lot of plugs, a lot of flugs.

602
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the podcast was a really exciting opportunity

603
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 4: when the Players Tribune brought it to me, I think

604
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Speaker 4: for me what was really special is like when I

605
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 4: watch players and the players that I gravitate towards, it's because.

606
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: I know their story, I know about them, and.

607
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 4: So I think what was a lot is like sharing

608
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Speaker 4: these female stories, specifically in women's college basketball. So being

609
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: able to bring some of my best friends on and

610
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Speaker 4: some people who may not have the biggest platforms and

611
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Speaker 4: just talk to them, let them share their story pieces

612
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 4: that fans may not always know.

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Speaker 3: And even for.

614
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Speaker 4: Myself now I get to know some of these people

615
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Speaker 4: now I look out for them and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: I think it's really special.

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Speaker 4: But also like growing up for female athletes, there wasn't

618
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Speaker 4: always that person to strive towards. I think a lot

619
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Speaker 4: of times it was women's basketball players talking about, you know,

620
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Speaker 4: the guy that they wanted to be, but not that woman.

621
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Speaker 4: And so for me, a big thing that I've loved

622
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Speaker 4: to do with nil and now with endorsements being a pro,

623
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Speaker 4: but also with sometimes I hope is being that representation

624
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: that I didn't have when I was growing up. So

625
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: showing that you know, you can be an athlete, but

626
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 4: you can also be a scholar and you can have

627
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 4: your own businesses. And do a podcast whatever you want

628
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 4: to do and just make it work for you what

629
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Speaker 4: you want it to be.

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Speaker 2: So you two years in, how does it feel to

631
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Speaker 2: be two years into your podcast and where you feel

632
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: like you that in it, you feel like there's something

633
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: you love that you can continue to do in the future.

634
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Speaker 1: You feel like you're learning a lot from.

635
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm definitely learning a lot.

636
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 4: I've definitely got a lot of feedback and constructive criticism

637
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: throughout it, which is great because I just want to

638
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 4: make it better. But I think I've definitely grown in

639
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 4: terms of, like you guys know, like as you get better,

640
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 4: it's easier to carry a conversation and not make it

641
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 4: feel like an interview. I don't want to just listen

642
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: to somebody bade someone with questions for an hour, Like

643
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 4: that's boring. I'm here to not only listen to your guests,

644
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 4: but with every guest that you have, I feel like

645
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: you give different snippets of yourself. So I think I've

646
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 4: grown in that term of just like being more conversational,

647
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 4: giving things of myself while also focusing around each guest.

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Speaker 6: So I like to say this because we from day one,

649
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 6: we've interviewed Wnba players and women athletes and stuff like that,

650
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 6: basically women basketball players, cause that's what we do. But

651
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 6: being able to listen to you being an actual female,

652
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 6: like younger, more close with the people like in cold,

653
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 6: I feel like you're doing. It's a parallel what we do.

654
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Speaker 6: Like how we, like you said you, we bring out

655
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 6: all of those different stories with with our counterparts, with

656
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 6: our peers and things that we know. You being an

657
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Speaker 6: actual female athlete who is just in college, who's fresh

658
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 6: and you know a lot of these people like you

659
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 6: bring to the table that same exact thing with these women,

660
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Speaker 6: the young women that everybody don't get to know about because,

661
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 6: like you say, you play the USA with this person,

662
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Speaker 6: or you play the same things we did, You cross

663
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Speaker 6: paths with them, so you know different stories that nobody

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Speaker 6: could ever ask because you are with them. And that's

665
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Speaker 6: the only way we know the stories we know and

666
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 6: we get the type of convos that we get and

667
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 6: it's less.

668
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: Like a question, question, question, question, question, because you know them.

669
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, you get your little information, but like that's just

670
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 6: we don't really need that when you know somebody, and

671
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 6: that's what makes it intriguing and good because a random

672
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 6: reporter could come and ask and google some questions and

673
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 6: ask them like when you bring that authenticity or some

674
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 6: of a story that no one else would know, but

675
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 6: because no one else would even know to ask it

676
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 6: because they don't know it, you were there. You know

677
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 6: this intimately because you know it, and then it's the

678
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 6: whole conversation around it is different. And I think that's

679
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 6: what I really enjoy getting to hear about from a

680
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 6: female standpoint, where because we ask it from our standpoint,

681
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 6: but like when you when I've seen some of your

682
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 6: clips and your comments and you know, the different stuff,

683
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 6: that's what I enjoyed about it.

684
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

685
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: No, I think also what you touched on about just

686
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: like having athlete conversations, like when a reporter asked you

687
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: a question, sometimes you could give a really just like

688
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: intimate answer about what you were thinking through the game

689
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: and then like, Okay, cool, next question because they're just

690
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: going through a bull point list. But as an athlete,

691
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: you can really relate to those experiences that you're having,

692
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: and so I feel like it gives you a different

693
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: end to really have those like you know, vulnerable conversations

694
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: about the things that we go through that not a

695
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: lot of people can understand.

696
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: So I think it's special to have that athlete connection.

697
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Speaker 1: This is a two point question.

698
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: Who is your most favorite interview that you'd have done

699
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: so far and who is your dream interview that you

700
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: want to do in the future.

701
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I think my favorite interview I've done two

702
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: Natasha Cloud.

703
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: It was such a great episode.

704
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: We had to cut it down a lot because we

705
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: talked for like two and a half hours. She's just amazing.

706
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: And then I think another one that I really enjoyed

707
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 4: was Anissa Morrall, who's now an LSU who transferred.

708
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: It was really cool just because I didn't know. Yeah,

709
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: she's at De Paula. Yeah, she's a beast.

710
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think really getting to pick her brain

711
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 4: about why she went to De paul how it was

712
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: being such a beast and then now going to you know,

713
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: the raining national champs of LSU. Just really picking her

714
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: brain about that. I think it was really exciting. If

715
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: I had a dream podcast, guess like Basketball Wise or

716
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: just like dream.

717
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Speaker 1: And just whoever you want to interview, what's your dream

718
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: to bring on your show?

719
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Speaker 3: Okay basketball guys, I would say more.

720
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a joint we need you to.

721
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 6: Get wants you to come through and sometimes she who

722
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 6: needs you.

723
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Maya Moore, you a Jordan's rock with us for sure.

724
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think my Moore would be great just for

725
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: her basketball prowess obviously, but also just like what she's

726
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: doing off the court nowadays.

727
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: I think would be amazing.

728
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: That's fine.

729
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not I'm not mad at that at all.

730
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 6: I would definitely like to get Maya Moore up here.

731
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 6: Tell me this, like being in the position you in,

732
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 6: like what have you learned? Like I could say when

733
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 6: we first started, and like you say, a lot of

734
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 6: the you know, the criticism or the constructive criticism whatever.

735
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 6: We social media in it, so we know we see

736
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 6: when we posted clip, like I feel like I got

737
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 6: better from looking at the comments and they like, shut

738
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 6: the fuck up off you talking over there. You ain't

739
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 6: even less, Like I'm serious, Like sometimes when you first

740
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 6: see you like, man, fuck you, you don't know if

741
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 6: you talmed about right. But then it's like if you've

742
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 6: just taken it what it is, it's like maybe you

743
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 6: do need to shut the fuck up a little bit.

744
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 6: And just like so I feel like have you had

745
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 6: those moments in the pot and like have you grown

746
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 6: and gotten better from some of the things that you

747
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: Some people.

748
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: Could be being a little whatever, little.

749
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 6: Going hard, but like you did get better from those comments.

750
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think looking at comments on social media can

751
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: definitely be a supper.

752
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 5: Slope, a good way.

753
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 6: That's not too hard, but like, yeah, let's ground myself

754
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 6: a little bit.

755
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: You ain't all that boy.

756
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've definitely learned from comments on social

757
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: media talking about I think for me really understanding what

758
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: they want to hear from guests, Yeah, talking about Oh,

759
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: I would love to know this when you talk the

760
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: next guest.

761
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: Oh, I want you to ask about these different types

762
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: of things.

763
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: But I think a lot of it is I had

764
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: to learn to like listen to the episodes because I

765
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: hate hearing myself talk. And so when I first listened

766
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: to the first episode we did that was with Aliyah,

767
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, dear God, turn this off, like

768
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: we need to take this off the internet. But listening

769
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: to it, I got to learn a lot about my tendencies,

770
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: different words that I harp on or I think at

771
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: the beginning, oh yeah for sure, yes, like you really

772
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: pick up I'm like, yes, Like when you're talking, it's

773
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: just it flows so naturally and then you listen to

774
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: yourself and it's like, oh, I said like a thousand

775
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: times or I think, and so it's really hard as

776
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: you're going through it not.

777
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: To say those things.

778
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: But I think listening to the episodes, I've really started

779
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: to learn what my tendencies are and not. I think

780
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: at the beginning I repeated questions back, or like repeated

781
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: answers back, but was really moving on to the next thing. Hayley,

782
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: you don't need to harp on every answer that they get.

783
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 6: One of my things is that I would ask a

784
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 6: too many questions to where the motherfucking guests wouldn't even

785
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 6: remember the whole part of the question.

786
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: Just kept questions.

787
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 6: Or he'll tell me afterwards, like Bro, you said that

788
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 6: ship you was talking and I forgot what the fuck

789
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 6: the question was. I don't know how the fuck the

790
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 6: guests can remember, like you started talking and you around

791
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 6: it this year you went here, there and all over

792
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 6: the place, and then was just looking at him.

793
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 5: They was looking at you, like what do I say?

794
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that down.

795
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 5: You remember telling me that sometimes.

796
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 6: I'm serious, Like people think that doing this is just

797
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 6: like oh you just roll out and this just no, no,

798
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 6: this is not all easier.

799
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: And I hate awkward moments.

800
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Speaker 2: I hate when I guess answer the question and it's

801
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: just be that that the solid damn.

802
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: All on the line and they'd be like yes, he

803
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah.

804
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: You ain't elaborate or nothing else.

805
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: I think it's hard to like phrase questions when I'm

806
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 4: just thinking of something like oh, I want to know,

807
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: But then if you phrase it yes, they're going to

808
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: take that yes no.

809
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: Every single time.

810
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: I feel like, definitely within your first few questions with

811
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: a guest, you know how the podcast episode is in

812
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 4: ago and you're like, Okay, I need to really give

813
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: some more answers to this. I need to play off

814
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 4: the more. But then some guests that's a question and

815
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 4: they start talking. You're like, okay, now I need to

816
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: real it in like, okay, this is.

817
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

818
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 4: So it's really interesting to figure out what everybody's personality

819
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 4: is as soon as that, as soon as you start

820
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: the episode.

821
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: Women's college basketball last season tournament was crazy, like it

822
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: was crazy, very entertaining. This year, we got a couple

823
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: of new players in there. Juju is averaging thirty yeah,

824
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: miss Clark is doing that thing LUs you to add,

825
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: but we.

826
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: Had upsets teams that at the top.

827
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: Thing got upset. What's your who do you think gonna

828
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: win this year? Who is your sleeper team? Who do

829
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: you think gonna win this year? And who is your

830
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: favorite freshman that's playing?

831
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 4: Okay, so biased and unbiased. Juju's my favorite freshman. I

832
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: got to host her on her Stayford visit and so

833
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: I feel like I got to know her really well.

834
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she's amazing, and she's like as amazing as

835
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: she is in basketball, she's even better as a person.

836
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: So I'm always rooting for Jujus. She's amazing.

837
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 4: But I think, yeah, just like women's basketball has grown

838
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: so much, where it used to be the same teams

839
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 4: at the top every single year, So I feel like

840
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: people weren't watching because it's like, oh, I know who's

841
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: gonna win. It's the Tennessee's, it's the Yukon's, it's Stanford's.

842
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 4: And so now there are so many great hoopers out

843
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: there that they're not all funneling to those same big

844
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: time schools. They want to go and create their own path.

845
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: And so you know, when you start the year with

846
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 4: LSU losing to Colorado, I knew how good Colorado was

847
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: being the pac twelve. I knew they were going to

848
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: give them a game, and so I think, I don't

849
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: know who's gonna win. I feel like I don't know,

850
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: Like LSU is tough, but I feel like there's gonna

851
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: be teams that really get it together throughout the season.

852
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: Like right now, I feel like Texas is really coming along.

853
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: They just kind of whooped on yukond at home, which

854
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 4: is big. I think NC State was unranked to start

855
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: the year and now they're like top five. So I

856
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of sleeper teams that need time

857
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 4: to figure it out as the season goes on.

858
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

859
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: I feel you feel like this is going to be

860
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: one of the best women's tournaments.

861
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 6: That's what I tell me, is like, how proud are

862
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 6: you and how happy are you to see the women's

863
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 6: game growing in the way it is like, because I

864
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 6: feel like right now it's probably like the highest point

865
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 6: it's ever been, like with at tension, with talent, eyes, viewership,

866
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 6: games being prevalent on national and local TV, and then

867
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 6: just like the fans really getting behind it, both me

868
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 6: and and women. I feel like it said the highest

869
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 6: point that it's ever been probably How do you feel

870
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 6: watching that and being a part of that.

871
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's for sure at the highest point right now.

872
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: I think being able to be someone who is just

873
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 4: like a part of it and now watching it it

874
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: is like I'm im mentally proud to see how far

875
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 4: it's come.

876
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: I think, oh yeah, everything.

877
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 4: I think in terms of view, it's like, once you

878
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: give us the platform, not only for women's basketball, but

879
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: you see it with NWSL, the new pro volleyball league

880
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: coming out. Once you give women athletes the platform, they

881
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: just take it and run with it, and you see

882
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 4: these skyrocketing numbers year in and year out. So I

883
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 4: think it's really special to see how much talent there is,

884
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: the storylines that you're following with the transfer portals, and

885
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 4: then you see these huge lucrative NIL deals being signed,

886
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: and so you want to follow those players. But I

887
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 4: think just the talent is so insane right now, Like

888
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 4: you have freshmen dropping thirty, averaging thirty. You have just

889
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: all these different players coming back this year, and I

890
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: feel like everybody's gotten so much better. The level only

891
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: get tired with each year. You see it seems like

892
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: South Carolina and they lose all those seniors last year

893
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, this.

894
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 3: Is an off year or whatever.

895
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: They're in the bottom of the top twenty five, and

896
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: here they are undefeated, whipping on all these top ten

897
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 4: teams like night in and night out. So I think

898
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 4: you can't really sleep on anybody this year. But it's

899
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: just so amazing to have been a part of college

900
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: basketball and now be in the league and just see

901
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: how it continues to grow. That next generation of Trailblazers

902
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: is really coming through.

903
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: Who are some of the college women that you look

904
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: forward to trying to interview or want to interview this season?

905
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: For this season though, yeah, I think definitely Juju talking

906
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: to her just about what it's like I a freshman

907
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: right now doing what she's doing is insane. I think

908
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 4: somebody who people kind of sleep on who's now getting

909
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 4: a lot more recognition is Georgia Amore on Virginia Tech.

910
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 4: She's a killer and like you saw on the Final

911
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 4: four last year, how she started to go crazy.

912
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: So I think people like that.

913
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 4: Somebody like Sinai Rivers, who's the number one player in

914
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: her class started South Carolina, now at NC State making

915
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: a name for herself all over again. I think people

916
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: like that would be really interesting to interview.

917
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 6: Tell me about yo, you know you and Leah boss

918
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 6: my best best easy dfs, Like, how was that for

919
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 6: you to have her on the pod and for her

920
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 6: to be part of your that was.

921
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 5: Your first one, righty?

922
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 6: Talk about how you guys got so tight and whatever

923
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 6: relationship came from.

924
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we played at USA basketball together. I want

925
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 4: to say you seventeen was the first year we were

926
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 4: on a team together. It really just sparked out of nowhere,

927
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: Like it was a Leah Frann and myself where just

928
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: you didn't see the three of us like not together.

929
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: You saw one, the other two were trailing behind, and

930
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: so it's just this immediate friendship. But I think as

931
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 4: we started to go through McDonald's games and kind of

932
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 4: part of like you know other just like the viewership growing,

933
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: we got to relate to one another really well. And

934
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: so as we get through college and COVID happens, you

935
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: kind of I think our relationship really growed because we

936
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: were going through just a lot of the same things,

937
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 4: like the same struggles during COVID when we ended up

938
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: meeting in the final four, just like having those moments

939
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: getting to hug it out all these different things. I

940
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: think that we could really relate to one another through

941
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 4: our struggles and through our ups and downs, so it's

942
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: a really special friendship.

943
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the draft. By the way, you

944
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: look beautiful at the Thing's the thing?

945
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: At the draft? How was your draft?

946
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: And outside of yourself, who would you give best dressed

947
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: or best looking?

948
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

949
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: At the draft?

950
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: Outside of myself, I feel like, I don't know. I

951
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: just remember when I walked down from my room and

952
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: I have my cam corder on Vinny River. It was

953
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: like I walked downstairs and I was just like, oh

954
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: my god, everybody's a super model, Like everybody looks so

955
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: pretty and it was just really cool. I think Brebial

956
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 4: had a had like a hot pink power suit, which

957
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: is great, and then Aliah was wearing white. I think

958
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: Zia's dress was show stopping. Yeah, but I think everybody

959
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 4: really showed out, and it's so exciting because we don't

960
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: always get to show ourselves in that light, like dressing up,

961
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 4: having a full face of makeup. So that was really fun.

962
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: But the draft is really crazy, like it's a whirlwind.

963
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: You start the Empire state building, you're getting dressed. I

964
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 4: was a player's Tribune. We took the subway, we went

965
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 4: to get pizza. It was just a long day.

966
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: But oh yeah.

967
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 4: I think when I my name got called that I

968
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: was drafted, I definitely blacked out, like I could not

969
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: tell you what happened from what my name was called.

970
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, I'm being interviewed by

971
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: Holly and then I'm in the back of the rooms

972
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: being interviewed for three hours. Like I don't Apparently I

973
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 4: hugged the commissioner. I yeah, like I thought I was

974
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: gonna trip and fall on the steps were on these

975
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: five inchields.

976
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

977
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: So when you get drafted, you the sixth pick and

978
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: you go to a team that has like one of

979
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: my favorite teams to watch, have so much talent, you know,

980
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: and Miss Howard, you know, Ms Gray, Miss Parker, and

981
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: y'all make some noise this year by making the playoffs

982
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: and getting in there just to get in the visual

983
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: of the playoffs as a whole as a team.

984
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: How did you feel this season went.

985
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: I think it went. I think it went really well.

986
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: I think Atlanta in general, the Dream has been rebranding

987
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: in the past few years from what it used to

988
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 4: be with Tanisha and Dan kind of at the helm now.

989
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: I was really excited to get to come here and

990
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: be a part of that rebrand.

991
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 3: And it's also such a young core, Like.

992
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: I mean Cheyenne and Alicia, they were first year All

993
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: Stars this year. Ryan was obviously amazing in her rookie season,

994
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: Rookie the Year, all that stuff, But being a part

995
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: of this young core and kind of buying into everything

996
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: that Tanisha's saying her just recently retiring twenty nineteen, I

997
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: think it's a really special dynamic that we have and

998
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: so fresh be able to make the playoffs I think

999
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: the first time since twenty nineteen for the Dream It's

1000
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: been like four or five years for usb all to

1001
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: do that in my rookie season. I think it's just

1002
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: kind of springboarding us in the next year with all

1003
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 4: the new goals that we now have.

1004
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 5: How is it for you, you know and.

1005
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 6: Other rookies you could tell me just people on in

1006
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 6: thew in general, Like for us, it's the outside look

1007
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 6: at me and we see all of these great players

1008
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 6: that we watched, you know, the last season in college,

1009
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 6: get drafted whatever around they are. Then we see the

1010
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 6: cuts come out, like how is that for you? You

1011
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like when you were you just drafted,

1012
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 6: you're a rookie, Like is that in your mind?

1013
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 5: Like, look, people getting cut around here? This ain't sweet.

1014
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 6: Like you know when we get picked in the first round,

1015
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 6: it's like we here far? You know, Like how was

1016
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 6: that for y'all within the doug especially as a you know,

1017
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 6: now you're a former rookie, but coming in like you

1018
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 6: don't have that same like in your mental where it's

1019
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 6: like it's good, Like you gotta like how is that

1020
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 6: like your sense of awareness all you like, you gotta

1021
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 6: be on right.

1022
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 3: Let me tell you stressed? Oh my god. I was

1023
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: breaking out pimples everywhere.

1024
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 4: I was stressed out because I'm like, oh my god,

1025
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 4: I'm out of college. There's no safety net, like I

1026
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: need a job. I have to have no income, like

1027
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: I need this, and my teammates know.

1028
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: I was stressed out.

1029
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: Like I remember I got called into a meeting with

1030
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 4: Dan and Tanisiha and.

1031
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: I was like, is this where I get cut? Like

1032
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: did I not make the team? Oh my god? But

1033
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: it was say I made it, thank God.

1034
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 4: But like it's really stressful, and you see every day

1035
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 4: there's like a there's a website that you fall was

1036
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: called across the Timeline or something, and every day I

1037
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 4: got an update, Oh this person's waved, this person's waved, and.

1038
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, what.

1039
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 6: And then not only you hear the fallout afterwards, like man,

1040
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 6: hell noah, we need y'all.

1041
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 5: Need you know what I'm saying, everybody come back. Then,

1042
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: not even just the players.

1043
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 6: You hear like media people like this ain't cool, Like, yeah,

1044
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 6: Hollie Roa see her doing reports saying the talent is like,

1045
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 6: we need to do this and we need more supporting.

1046
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 6: Like it's like, damn, I don't even know how to

1047
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 6: like to see that, like cause then it just doesn't

1048
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 6: happen for us.

1049
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 5: And to see like a first round pick be cut

1050
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 5: is like crazy to me.

1051
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: It's really crazy to think about. I mean, you have

1052
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 4: like previous number one draft picks who aren't even the

1053
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: league right now. I know Crystal Danderfield, she won Rookie

1054
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 4: of the Year one year and then all of a

1055
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: sudden she's off a team, she's looking getting traded around whatever.

1056
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 4: It's just a crazy business to be a part of.

1057
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 4: But then when you think about first round draft picks

1058
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: being cut and this and that. Then people are like, oh,

1059
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: she should have made the team. But then it's like,

1060
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 4: who are you gonna cut? Like you have all stars, Olympians,

1061
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 4: previous all Americans, all these amazing players on this roster.

1062
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: I'm at these training camps like who are you gonna cut?

1063
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 4: It is crazy to think about the level of talent.

1064
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this. You're in the w right now,

1065
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 6: where the times are changing a little bit. You're fortunate

1066
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 6: enough that you're here right now. You not, you know,

1067
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 6: like previous people would be going overseas trying to figure

1068
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 6: something out. Like you're fortunate enough to have you know,

1069
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 6: some type of whatever you got going on. I don't know,

1070
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 6: but you got whatever you've got that you can be here.

1071
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 6: You're their home stateside. You get to do whatever you're doing,

1072
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 6: workout still, try and be ready, but like you have

1073
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 6: something that's being able to maintain you. Otherwise I would

1074
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 6: have to assume you would be going overseas too. So

1075
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 6: how is it for you and how happy are you

1076
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 6: to be for times to be changing to where you

1077
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 6: can still in the WNBA off seas you can stay here.

1078
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 6: You have sometimes out hoop I don't know what else

1079
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 6: you got going, but you got things that can sustain

1080
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 6: you to where you don't have to go abroad and

1081
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 6: be a part of some of the things that could happen.

1082
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 6: We've seen unfortunate things, We've heard crazy stories. We've interviewed

1083
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 6: a lot of different him to have like Sue Bird

1084
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 6: and Diana Tueski, they do was a damn spy. He was,

1085
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 6: you know, like so like it could be anything that happened,

1086
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 6: But like, how much confident do you have knowing that, Like, man,

1087
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 6: the game is evolving, things are changing, and I'm in

1088
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 6: this great position and after my rookie year, I don't

1089
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 6: have to go do all of that, and I still

1090
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 6: can kind of be in a great situation where I

1091
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 6: can get myself situated and be ready for next year

1092
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 6: to perform and be at optimum level. But I don't

1093
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 6: have to be exposed to going overseas to be to

1094
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 6: be dealing with something that might not be the best

1095
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 6: interest for me.

1096
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's definitely a blessing to

1097
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: be able to do that now because that wasn't always

1098
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 4: the case for previous w players. And I have a

1099
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: lot of friends who are playing overseas right now.

1100
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: But for me being able to.

1101
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: Be here in Atlanta and working broadcasting in the off

1102
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: season doing these different things, and then in the spring

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00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 4: be able to you know, I'm working out here, I'm

1104
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: with the dream. We have our facility here, but it's

1105
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 4: really like who knows what next season is going to take,

1106
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 4: Like I could be overseas next year doing whatnot. So

1107
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: I think it's just kind of the way things have

1108
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 4: changed in terms of you know, the there's more marketing opportunities, endorsements,

1109
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 4: there's more opportunities within the w to be able to

1110
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: have them paid for you to do an internship somewhere,

1111
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 4: figure out what you want to do beyond your basketball career.

1112
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: I think it's really special to be a part of

1113
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: that next generation coming into it where I'm able to

1114
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: have all these opportunities here Stateside.

1115
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing that you're going to work on

1116
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: this off season for next year? You got an opportunity

1117
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: to play in to watch what was going on in WNBA,

1118
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: watch the other players and what's going on. Of course

1119
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 2: you want to play more, So what's the game plan

1120
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 2: of like what you're working on this summer to get

1121
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: more playing time and get.

1122
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: To a level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, being a big point guard, Like I've always been

1124
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 4: that one through four player, and so when I was

1125
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 4: at Stanford, I was just the four because that's the

1126
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: lineup that we had, but I probably brought up the

1127
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 4: ball the majority amount of the time. But now being

1128
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 4: just like purely point guard for the most part, it's

1129
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: really working on, you know, being a bigger guard, creating

1130
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: space for myself. I'm running the offense big ladies and

1131
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 4: jentlemen for sure, for sure, So it's like creating space,

1132
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 4: being able to make reads, understanding what I can do

1133
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: that smaller point guards can't, so understanding how to get

1134
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: to my spots, how to elevate, you know, if I

1135
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 4: have a mismatch posting them up, backing them down, or

1136
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: making different cuts, making different reads, Understanding that I have

1137
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: a long wingspan, how to incorporate that defensively, I think

1138
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 4: all those different types of things. So it's a lot

1139
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 4: of ball handling, It's a lot of outside shooting because

1140
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 4: I like to drive the basket and people know that.

1141
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: But it's adding that outside consistency into the arsenal so

1142
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: that now when you do have to chase me over screen,

1143
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: now I get to do what I like to do.

1144
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: I get to create downhill, I get to do all

1145
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 4: those different things. So I think it's really kind of

1146
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 4: adding to that big guard bag right now.

1147
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 6: How much should say like that improved, because like watching

1148
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 6: you early season, to me, a season where you're not

1149
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 6: getting a lot of minutes and you're trying to figure

1150
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 6: things out to like boom, now you kind of have

1151
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 6: a footing and know what's coming to you. How much

1152
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 6: you say that impacted, like you know your levels of

1153
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 6: conference and getting better as the season went on.

1154
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, there was a point in the season

1155
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: when both our point guards went out with injuries, so

1156
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, here I am playing forty minutes.

1157
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: I'm gassed, Like I got to figure out what to do.

1158
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 4: So I think it was a lot of it was

1159
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 4: watching film I think helped a lot, but also just

1160
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 4: like having that internal confidence because it's like you get

1161
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 4: to the league and all of a sudden you're comparing yourself.

1162
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: To all these different people.

1163
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 4: But for me, it was really having that understanding that

1164
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: I'm also here for a reason and that I have

1165
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: a skill set that nobody else has, so understanding how.

1166
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 3: To make that work.

1167
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 4: The best for me, which ended up helping the team

1168
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: the best way that I could. So I think it

1169
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 4: was really just like that confidence started to come along.

1170
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: The more minutes you get.

1171
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 4: You throw a turnover and not getting in your head

1172
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 4: about it. It's like next red because at that point

1173
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: there wasn't really a sub for me, so I was like,

1174
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 4: I don't have time to get in my head like

1175
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 4: I need Yeah, I need to make the next decision.

1176
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: I need to move past it.

1177
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: What's the difference between WNBA and colleage? It's everybody in

1178
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: the WNBA, every position to the table. College you kind

1179
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: of yeah, two of them the good and the rest

1180
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: of them just like yeah.

1181
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 4: I think it's like in college there's definitely those cheats

1182
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 4: you can have on the scout, and you know, not

1183
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 4: everybody's not American, not everybody's this and that. When he

1184
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 4: gets to the league, everybody's been there, done that, and

1185
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 4: so it's like there's no shortcuts that you can take.

1186
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: There's no oh, I'm a cheat off this scout. Everybody

1187
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 4: can shoot, everybody can go both ways. It's the scouts

1188
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 4: are now not like, oh force her left, Oh do

1189
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 4: this nets make this shot more difficult? She shoots high

1190
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: percentage on this side, force her this way. So it's

1191
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: understanding all those different intricacies, I guess.

1192
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: But I think the biggest thing for me was like,

1193
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: when you.

1194
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 4: Get to the league, you could be just as skilled

1195
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 4: as somebody, but you are not as efficient as they are.

1196
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 4: Like playing against somebody like Chelsea Gray. She may not

1197
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 4: be the most athletic person in the league, she gets

1198
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 4: to her spots better than anybody else. She creates space

1199
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 4: like nobody else for that mid range. So I think

1200
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: it's really just learning to pick up on all those

1201
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 4: little efficient things that you can do to get your

1202
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: spots quicker.

1203
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, this is what I want to know. You

1204
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 6: don't have n I L s now you're getting that

1205
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 6: w N B A money. I don't hear about nothing wholesome, Haley.

1206
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 3: Well, like wholesome.

1207
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 6: Knowing you got a Louis bag, you got a Gucci,

1208
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 6: you got something.

1209
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: Let me tell you, person, I'm telling you, like, what

1210
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 4: did I do with my first check?

1211
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 5: Not the first check, just any check? What did you do?

1212
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 5: Did you look back and I shouldn't did it?

1213
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 6: Ain't you ain't get no jewel, you ain't get no bag,

1214
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 6: ain't no shoes, ain't no car.

1215
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 5: What you do?

1216
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 4: I started investing what I'm sorry, it's my Stanford degree.

1217
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 5: Stanford smart, good ladies and gentlemen.

1218
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 6: She can't even make a little teeny tiny Minsk money mistake.

1219
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 6: And god damn, I mean if I want stand for

1220
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 6: getting them too situated?

1221
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 5: For all this, I think I can't even give me.

1222
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 4: A question off if I wanted a Louie bag or something.

1223
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 4: What I do is I say that and I'm like, oh,

1224
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:53,959
Speaker 4: if it's January, I want.

1225
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 5: To Louise bag.

1226
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: I can wait till Christmas to ask for that, Like

1227
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: That'll be my one ask you ask for for Christmas

1228
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 4: this year. A vacuum, a cast iron skillet, a.

1229
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: La Cruisette, little set.

1230
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 4: Like I am so boring, but they are all things

1231
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 4: that I want and need. Now I can cook better,

1232
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: and I've been working on my baking.

1233
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 3: It's all.

1234
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: I was just trying to ask you. I heard that

1235
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: you love bacon. What made you fall in love with bacon?

1236
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: My mom, she's the best cook, chef anything ever.

1237
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 5: So I'm a Paul.

1238
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: So like she was one of those people where like

1239
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: she just writes down she doesn't even write down her

1240
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 4: recipes and so during COVID, I really got to sit

1241
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 4: down with her and like write up all her recipes,

1242
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 4: cread a catalog and so now so now it's like,

1243
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: you know, I get to take her recipes and make

1244
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 4: them my own, and I just like the freestyle. You

1245
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 4: are so disappointed.

1246
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 6: Officially, sister, we gonna get you a Louis bag or

1247
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 6: some damn that we owe you. That the Knuckleheads podcast.

1248
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 6: You let us know by coming out of your pocket for.

1249
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 5: It, but we getting We're gonna wrap it up on that. Man.

1250
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 5: This has been a big time. I'm so happy this

1251
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 5: officially our.

1252
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 6: Little sister, Hayley Jones Knuckleheads and sometimes I who we

1253
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 6: in the building. This is all under the family, all

1254
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 6: under the players you're doing, umbrella. This is a family affair.

1255
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 6: We are so thankful you put it up on us

1256
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 6: in the atl she's doing us prior lady and gentlemen.

1257
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 6: She doing what we do for the men's game. She

1258
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 6: doing for the women's game, and she's doing in the exquisite,

1259
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 6: excellent way. We commend her, We salute you, and we're

1260
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 6: gonna keep supporting do your things.

1261
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:38,759
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00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,560
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