WEBVTT - #432 Packers Unscripted: Diving into details 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:21.000 Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.680 I am like Spofford City next to the one and 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.800 only West Hodkoits were coming to you here from our 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.760 studios at lambeau Field and West. As the Packers moved 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:35.440 toward preparation for the Minnesota Vikings in week two, a 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.080 couple of things to still look back on week one 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.840 here and the victory over the Chicago Bears in particular, 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:46.400 I want to discuss another aspect of this defensive performance 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.800 that was obviously very, very impressive, one of the best 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.160 defensive performances start to finish, first quarter to fourth quarter 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.400 that we've seen in Green Bay in a long time. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.680 And I went through my ritual of the film review 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.600 and my weekly regular season weekly piece what you might 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:06.840 have missed for fans who are familiar with it that 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.680 is now up on packers dot com, and what I 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.399 examined in this which I didn't realize when I was 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:16.120 watching the game from the press box, but with the 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.880 Bears only converting three out of fifteen third downs, it's like, okay, well, 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.720 how did the Packers do this defensively? Three out of fifteen? 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.720 You know, that's a pretty low percentage to hold the 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.600 opponent to. You look at the film on third down 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:33.880 mits true, Bisky never saw the same look in terms 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.440 of pressure package, you know, on a third down passing situation. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.759 He never saw the same look. Twice Mike Patton, he'd 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.920 put six guys up in the front, he'd rush four. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.320 He'd put six guys up there, he'd rush five. It 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.440 was different guys rushing and dropping. One time he puts 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.280 seven guys up there and rushed only three and two 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.840 of them got pressure because the Bears offensive line was 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.920 so discombobulated. Buy it now. I don't know if you 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.920 can play defense this way for sixteen games, Eventually your 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.160 your bag of tricks kind of runs out, doesn't it. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.680 But but it was really something to go through the 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.600 film fifteen third downs for the Bears, And I don't 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.200 know if Mike Patton gave Mr. Drobiski the same look twice. Yeah, 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.160 it's funny, and it's one of those things that when 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.200 you said that, and obviously when you had the story, 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.359 it's sort of in the back of my mind, was like, yeah, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.040 I mean they're throwing a lot of you know, packages 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.440 at this guy. You don't really realize just the full 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.800 multitude of what those packages truly look like. I mean, 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.480 the one I keep going back to it was they 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.000 ended up I think either called time out, there's a 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.720 false start, but it was where they had overloaded on 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.280 the right side where it was precedent Zadarius Smith both 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.799 coming off one edge, and the other you had Dean 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.560 Lowery and Kenny Clark on the other side. I mean, 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.840 just just looks you're not used to seeing in pressure 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.040 packages that just aren't familiar when you look at the 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.120 full gamut of the NFL. And let's be honest, Mike, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.760 I mean, the one thing you go back to that 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.440 first news conference that Brian Goodin has had after he 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.160 talked about all these off season acquisitions that they made, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.800 they wanted to put more tools in Mike Petton's toolbox. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.560 That was the point of this offseason. That wasn't just 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.520 strictly about the caliber player, and certainly they got some 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.600 high quality free agents from this class, but they wanted 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.640 guys like Preston and Zadarius Smith who can play in 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:27.120 different roles and have that interchangeability. This game was the 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.679 perfect reflection of that and how you're seeing that into reality. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.720 The other thing that stood out to me too. Now 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.400 that this was a part of your story, but both 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.400 of those guys basically played every down too. So when 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.960 you when you ask about whether or not the Packers 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.680 can stay in those packages. Can Preston Smiths play all 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.240 but one defensive snap the entire game? I think Sadarius 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.400 Smith might have had four or five off. So they 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.200 built this defense around those guys up front, and as 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:54.839 we saw with some of the looks that they gave 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.440 Trabinsky on third downs, they really are gonna they want 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.800 to follow through a this in those pressure packages. Yeah, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.360 if you want to see what some of those third 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.920 downs look like. The video clips are part of my 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.280 what you might have missed, pieced their innersplae throughout text 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.160 explanation of kind of what was going on. But what 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.320 really stood out to me is I was going through them. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.000 You know, we've talked about how the that Mike zimmer 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:22.160 double a gap mug look that that he's sort of trademarked, 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.479 and a lot of teams obviously used it as well. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.920 The Packers do. Where you have two linebackers who are 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.280 lined up at the line of scrimmage on either side 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.640 of the center. On a third down. You don't know 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.520 if both guys are gonna come, if both guys are 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.039 gonna drop, if one's gonna come and one's gonna drop. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.719 But what was interesting to me and going through this 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.800 and the way Patton was using those looks is sometimes 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.160 it was Raven Green next to Blake Martinez in the 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.640 other A gap. Sometimes it was Preston Smith in the 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.599 other A gaps. Sometimes it was a Darius in the 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.160 other A gap and Kyler fatt I mean, he just 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.680 kept shifting guys around, and there was no way to 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.479 get there was no way to get a beat on 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.719 exactly how things were playing out. There was another snap 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.920 where there's a six man front. Three guys drop into coverage, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.080 but it's a four man rush because the fourth guy 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.280 is coming from the second level. It's one of the safety's. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.719 I mean the mixing and matching and the changeups that 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.719 were being thrown on third down, and I mean, hey, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.440 Mr Dubinsky is still a young quarterback. That's exactly what 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.560 you want to do. The more varied looks you can 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.400 give him the greater chance there is that maybe it's 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.160 something he hasn't seen yet, but also making him constantly 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.359 adjust because the quarterback has a lot of responsibility in 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.000 calling the protection. The quarterback in the center, they have 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.080 to call protection and make those adjustments. And if they 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.880 don't make the right adjustment in a certain in a 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.480 certain instance, then there's somebody who's not being blocked, and 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.719 then that's how you end up getting pressure. And and 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.880 Trubisky did not have a lot of time to throw 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.120 in that game. And like I said, you can't just 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.480 play the XS and ose scheme game all the time. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.440 You've got to be able to beat your man, beat 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.560 the man across from you, especially when you get into 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.240 the fourth quarter and whatnot. But boy, this was this 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.279 was some mixed bag that Mike Patton threw at the 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.279 Bears offense. The first thing, as far as the safety 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.280 blitzes are concerned, there's so little you can draw from 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.080 from preseason, but you could actually see in the in 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.920 those games how much Petton wants that to be a 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.479 part of the defensive scheme. Whether it's Adrian Amos, you know, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.080 whether it is uh you know, maybe even Darniell Savage 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:23.640 dropping down a little bit. We saw some of the 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.800 reserve safeties do it in the preseason and even in 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.040 some of the practices, and I think you're seeing why 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.720 particular guys fit well into his defense when he wants 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.599 to deploy those type of players. There was a play 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.200 that even you brought up about how they lined up 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.960 seven on the defensive front and then they ended up 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.000 only rushing three and I think one of them was 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.080 Amos and the other one was Kenny Clark. I mean, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.480 then they dropped the rest. Those are the type of 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.400 games you can play when you start to put the 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.000 quarterback on tilt a little bit, and they were successful 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.560 on that. They were even able to drive that one 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.840 home with I think maybe Zadarius Smith was Darius Smith 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.240 was the third one, and fans always complain like, oh, 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.200 a three man never works. Exactly, there was a three 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.400 man rush and two guys actually helped flush Troubisky out 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.960 of the pocket. The Bears offensive line just didn't have 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.480 an answer for that. Seven guys up front, four of 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.840 them drop into coverage and they just didn't They didn't 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.320 respond to it properly. The other thing I want to 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.000 just touch on really quickly when you mentioned the double 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.160 a gap looks and what they've done with Blake Martinez. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.680 Blake Martinez now has six sacks with Mike Petton in 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:29.360 this defense over the last seventeen regular season games. It 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.520 is really remarkable how well he's fitting here. And I 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.160 understand there's certain scheme adjustments and there's things that the 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.080 defensive coordinator is doing to free Martinez up for those opportunities, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.600 but how effective Martinez has been being able to get 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.520 through and be able to capitalize when he does get 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.680 the whole when he does get the rush. He's really 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.960 fits this defense well. And I think that's why. You know, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.480 I know, people talk about the depth that inside linebacker, 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.760 and you know, they want to know who's gonna be 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.679 that next guy up. Certainly the Packers want to establish 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.360 that player, but on an every down basis when everybody's healthy, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.040 Blake Martinez is an every down player for this defense. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.040 And I think plays like that show you why because 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.560 of not just what he offers as a traditional inside linebacker, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.800 but being able to be smart and savvy to find 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.600 those opportunities to get after the quarterback when he gets deployed. Yeah, 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.679 the one sack that he did have in the game, 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.720 it was actually the second third down. It was on 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.240 the Bears opening series, and on the first third down 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.280 he had come up in that mug look in the 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.000 A gap and he dropped into coverage. Then on three 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.319 plays later, at the very next third down, he's in 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.920 the exact same spot. A different guy was next to 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.120 him in the other A gap. And then this time 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.720 Martinez came, you know, shot the gap between the center 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.520 of the guard. Nobody blocked him. He got a he 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.520 gotta clean um. He got a clean charge of Trabisky, 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.480 and Troubisky was on the ground before he could even 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.240 look for a receiver. And you gotta remember, I mean, 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.800 this is a two or thirty seven pound football player 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.600 that is running through the beefiest, biggest part of an 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.640 offensive line. And I don't mean this to be disrespectful 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.400 to Joe Thomas, but there were a lot of times 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.440 where don Key Apres would try to do something similar 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.880 with Joe Thomas. Thomas very rarely was just able to 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:05.640 get home in those places because you're talking about a 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.760 two eight pound man and he's getting hung up on 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.880 a guard that maybe is weighing nine pounds more than him. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.679 I just think it's a credit to Blake Martinez that 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.880 he can keep the offensive lines, you know, truthful in 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.240 what he's able to accomplish there and be effective in 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.880 that way. Yeah, well, another aspect of the game. Yeah, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.040 there you go, another aspect of the game that is 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.840 definitely worth revisiting. And you've got a story on our 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:35.240 website related to this, um your occasional series that we 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.480 call Player on the Rise. And quite frankly, a pretty 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.880 easy choice with this one because second year punter J K. Scott, 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.720 when you look at the numbers, when you look at 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:49.400 the situations, everything that went into his performance in a 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.200 defensive struggle out there at Soldier Field, J K. Scott 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.280 definitely a guy who deserved a game ball and uh 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.400 and he was. He was featured in your piece. And statistically, boy, 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.520 you can't start of the season any better than than 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.120 what he just especially given the circumstances. I mean, you're 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.280 gonna go back and you're gonna look at statistics. There's 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.280 gonna be games where he had a higher gross, there's 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.280 gonna be games where he had a higher net. But 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.040 the fact of the matter is he punted a career 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:16.240 high nine times in this ballgame. The Packers defense continually 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.360 got stops when they needed them. But you know that's 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.680 one half of the equation. When you're trying to dictate 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:28.720 field position and tempo. When the offense sputters, it's never 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.760 a good thing for momentum, but it can be compounded 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.720 if the punter isn't able to at least, you know, 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.320 maintain the field position. I thought j. K. Scott in 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.840 this game in particular, did a phenomenal job of being 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.520 able to dictate the terms in which the game was played. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.240 And he was going up against a pretty decent punter himself, 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:47.839 you know, Pat O'Connell on the other side. He was 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.280 holding his ground. Trevor Davis didn't get a lot of 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.480 chances for returns, but in the critical moments when j. K. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.440 Scott needed to make a punt, the last one that 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.280 everyone keeps talking about is that final one. You know, 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.520 there's one minute and fifty whatever seconds left. He needs 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.239 to be able to pin the Bears back. He uncorks 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.640 a sixty three yarder which ends up being brought back 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.920 even a couple more yards after holding call on the Bears. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.680 That's what makes them start their fourteen and that's what 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.680 set up the four and out for the Packers defense. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.480 I was asking Kenny Clark about it in the locker 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.000 room on Monday, he said, you know the way he's 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.880 booming punts right now, that's flipping the field for this team. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.840 So at the end of the day, Mike, this is 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.760 what special teams needs to do. That is where you 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:32.719 don't want to give up chunk plays and you want 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.920 to be able to maintain your leverage in that capacity. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.480 J K. Scott being able to control his punts for 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:39.800 the most part. I know there was one in the 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.520 middle field he want wanted back, but other than that, 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.200 you know, he did a really good job in this 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.160 game of being able to make sure the Packers still 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.000 maintain that momentum regardless of the situation. Yeah, he had 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:50.960 the one early in the game when he was punning 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:52.800 basically out of the back of the end zone when 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.560 the Packers offense had gone nowhere. He put it down 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.600 in the middle of the field. Cohen got a good return. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.240 The Bears were starting at the Green Bay thirty six 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.199 yard line, but to the credit of the Packers defense, 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.679 they were able to hold him to a field goal 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.920 and then that ended up being the only points the 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.480 Bears scored. I thought Scott caught one other break where 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.960 he had hit one not the greatest punt and it 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.880 was kind of down the middle of the field, but 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.320 Coden didn't field it and it took a nice bounce 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.240 and I think that was his other his other sixty 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.319 plus yard or there. But what I will say to 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.880 when you look at the nine punts and the statistic 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.400 that five of them were inside the opponent's twenty yard line, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.319 We've seen it so many times West where a lot 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.760 of times punters they they go for that big hero punt, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.000 you know where they're they're trying to drop it on 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.240 you know, like the four yard line or the three 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.120 yard line and trying to get you know, just the 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.160 right lucky bounce to really pin a team, you know, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.240 inside the five. Hey, I'll take the one that goes 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:49.680 straight up in the air and they have to fair 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.040 catch it on the tent. I'll take that every time 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.080 over going for those hero punts that then you know, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.400 seven times out of nine are going to go into 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.079 the end zone and they get the ball at the twenty, 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.199 that's not what you want. Make him fair catch it 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.240 on the ten yard line. That's a great spot for 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.440 your defense to be in. And he did that a 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.320 handful of times in this game. Yeah, and it was 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.160 interesting too, because he talked about that thirties the punt 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:11.720 that ended up going to the thirty six, and he 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:13.839 mentioned that's where they ended up getting their three points. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.400 But that's the you talked this week a lot about 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.360 the narrow margins. That's one of those type of plays 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.760 that when you just give them enough yardage, they're going 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.720 to be able to find a way to score points 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.480 even if the defense holds serve. The thing I like 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.960 about that idea that you just laid out there is 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.520 that you know, dom Capers would talk about this a lot. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.800 If you take care of your business and don't give 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.320 up explosive plays. The more you force an offense, the 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.199 longer you force the offense to sustain a drive, the 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.880 less likely it's going to be that they're gonna be 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.559 able to do that. So by putting them at the 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.240 ten instead of the twenty, it might sound like a 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.160 small thing, but in reality, that's an extra first down, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.840 and you know, if you're able to not give up 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.680 the big chunk plays and not get penalized, that is 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.360 what is going to ultimately allow you to maybe get 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.120 that stop at the fifty instead of your forty, where 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.199 now they're thinking about going forward on fourth down, or 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.440 they have to make a decision on their kicker exactly. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.840 That extra yardage can go a long way in games 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.480 like this. And I again, J K. Scott, it's a 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.880 long season. He talked about before, he felt like he 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.800 kind of wore down down the stretch last year. He 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.320 needs to be able to maintain that momentum. But listen 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.200 to what Sean Manega has said about him in his 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.600 approach this year. I think you're seeing a young guy 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.120 that's maturing. Because the leg talent is always there. We've 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.560 seen it. It's just about being able to be relaxed, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.160 mature in falling through and what you need to accomplish. Yeah, alright, 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.440 well I want to get your thoughts here West on 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.960 that opening Monday night football game at the super domin 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.160 New Orleans, New Orleans Saints hosting the Houston Texans, two 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:45.000 teams that a lot of a lot of football analysts, 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.720 a lot of fans out there expecting to be in 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.920 the mix in January here in the postseason. A really 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.720 interesting a f C versus NFC matchup to kick off 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.640 Monday night football and uh boy, what a football game? 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.840 On what a football game? What the last two minutes 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.680 of that football game. Hi, it's funny for the Packers, 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.680 this probably didn't go the way you wanted it to. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.720 With anytime an a f C team can be a 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.480 contending NFC team that always have that in your back 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.200 pocket at the end of the season. That's a that's 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.120 a benefit. But I'll say this, man, the thing that 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.520 stands out to me is Drew Brees his poise, his 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.440 moxie at forty years old. You know, I mean that 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:23.440 it was Deshaun Watson made two incredible throws to be 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.640 able to come back get the answer. They missed the 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.680 extra point, the kicker was rough. They have to kick 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.560 the extra point again. Now it's tied, all right now 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.040 they whatever it worked out to be. Um. Yeah, then 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.680 Houston got the lead on the extra point. It would 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.160 have it would have been tied on the miss if 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:44.360 not for the penalty. So and then Drew Brees saddles up, 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:49.160 goes back out there on the clock and managing the game. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.240 It was funny. A guy like me, I'm just immediately 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.880 thinking called the time out. He got two first downs, 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.320 left himself with six seconds or whatever it was. And 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.720 then a mind boggling decision from Houston to go into 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.320 prevent even though the Saints had the time out left, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.880 they going to prevent yards. They they had three guys 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.640 that were thirty five yards off the line of scrimmage 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.400 playing way back. They only rushed, you know, I believe 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.560 they only rushed two guys or something like that, And yeah, 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.520 I'm with you. I I thought Breese was going to 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.400 call the time out after the second completion about fifteen 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.520 sixteen seconds, and when they were at midfield, I thought, Okay, 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.280 he's gonna have to call it there, and he rushed 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:28.800 him up to the line and spiked it, and I 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.040 was like, wow, well, yeah, now you can still use 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.880 the middle of the field. But um um, but yeah, 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:38.360 Houston defensively, not exactly sure of the call or what 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.160 they were what they were afraid of there, they conceded 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.880 the ten yards in the middle of the field. With 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.200 the Saints having the time out left. Now a fifty 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.960 eight yard field goal, I mean, that's you figure, that's 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.520 probably a less than fifty fifty proposition. So maybe that 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.080 was their thinking that rather than let you know, Breeze 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.440 potentially beat them deep with something down the sideline, um, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.000 they would give up the ten yards and and hope 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.840 the guy would miss the long kick. But but indoors 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.200 in a dome, you know he drilled it. And in 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.240 the Saints are and Will Lots is a really talented kicker, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.240 and he's kicking inside his own building. I mean, if 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.000 that's an energy, maybe that's the approach you have because 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.239 he's not going to be as familiar with it. But 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.440 Will Lutz knows that stadium as well as any kicker 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:20.840 in the league. So to be in that position to 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.399 hit a game winner a career long that didn't surprise me. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.199 The one thing I was interested in. Some people are 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.520 asking me this on Twitter. Maybe you can answer it 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.000 for me. Breeze completes the catch that sets up the 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.320 kick in ends up being the time out with two 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.560 seconds left. If the Texans defender would not have touched 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.800 the receiver after he falls to the ground, would the 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.199 clock still run or is the receiver given No, the 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.720 clock would still run, right if the if the if 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.640 the if the offensive player gives himself up, if he concedes, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.159 the offense can call a time out. So even so, 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.719 even if he hadn't been touched with with the receiver 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.679 going down on his own and conceding, which is clearly 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.359 what he was told to do. Whether it's Sean Payton 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.720 on the sideline next to a ref or breeze next 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.720 to the ref on the field, they can they can 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.520 call the time out if if their player has conceded 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.040 and given up on the play. So Houston touching the 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.840 receiver that had no bearing. Wonder though, if you're Houston, though, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.760 if you just if that's the plan, if you're gonna 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.680 let him have the catch, Like, I'm surprised the guy 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.200 went up and still touched him. But what it is, 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.719 what it is, um And obviously the Saints came out 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.640 with a big victory. The Houston Texas and Deshaun Watson. Man, 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.000 I gotta I have a lot of respect for them though. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.639 That's going to be an exciting football team with what 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.600 they did losing Lamar Miller right off the bat. Most 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.639 hide comes in and kind of picks up the torch 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.720 for them. Deshaun Watson's a winner, dude. As long as 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:42.800 his knee holds up here and he doesn't have any 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.240 more setbacks with that, I think that guy is gonna 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.720 have a really special career. Yeah, well it was. It 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.000 was quite the weak one. In the NFL as when 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.320 the yeah, the Raiders with all of the controversy and 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.800 the turmoil and everything swirling around, then they go out 0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:59.680 and I have to admit I went to bed. I 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.160 didn't see. Uh you didn't stay up for that game, 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.000 But I didn't stay up from Raiders Broncos I had to. 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.200