1 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Well, folks, welcome to Stedgefield. 2 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: President Trump is upping his punishment against Harvard University for 3 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: what not just violations of civil rights, but I would 4 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: say Harvard University is becoming a breeding ground for training 5 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: ung Jie Hottis. Certainly they are terrorizing people on their campus, 6 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: and I think this pro Homas riots that we see 7 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: on not just Harvard's campus, but so many other universities 8 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: is nothing short of despicable. And Harvard wants to push 9 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: back as the federal government says, hey, you got to 10 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: rain this stuff in. 11 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: So what does President Trump do? 12 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Well, we are now learning today he wants to pull 13 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: is considering it pulling the idea of Harvard taking in 14 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: any more foreign national students, leaving them without the right 15 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: to take in these. 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: Foreign nationals as students. 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: This as we are just days away from the IRS 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: deciding whether or not they should pull Harvard's nonprofit status. Now, 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Harvard has a fifty three billion dollar, yes, billion dollar endowment, 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: and somehow the United States government is sending this organization 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: that is literally teaching anti Semitism on campus by its 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: allowance of these jew haters, and that's what they are 23 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: to work their evil ways on campus, and so we 24 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: shall see how we're setting up two billion dollars. 25 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: I have no idea that has been pulled. 26 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: Until Harvard complies, we'll see what happens with the irs 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: standing and as well as taking in foreign students. Today, 28 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren, this is where the Democrats stand on all 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: of this. 30 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: Listen carefully. 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: We are not better and stronger because Donald Trump wakes 32 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: up one day and decides he wants to cut that research. 33 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: So I think there's I'm actually very proud of Harvard 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: to stand up and say we're just we're not. 35 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Going to do it. 36 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: But here's. 37 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: You know, you're proud of Harvard for standing up to 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: President Trump. I wish I could. 39 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: Say I'm proud of Harvard or any other university for 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: standing up to pro Hamas and lunatics that are terrorizing students. 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: That's who Harvard needs to be standing up to, and 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: yet they're not. They roll over to the radical left. Well, 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: I want to bring in with me now Harvard Law 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: Professor emeritus, an author of the new book Preventative State, 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: Alan Dershowitz is with us. 46 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Professor. It is so good to see you again. Thanks 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: for coming on this evening. 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 4: Having me. 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, professor, I've got to ask you. You know 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: you teach at Harvard, Professor Evertis, what do you make 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: of everything going on there? 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: Now? 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: I wouldn't everybody. 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 5: You imagine, it's the Lenke nineteen fifties and there is 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 5: a segregationist school, call it Old Miss, call it University 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: of Alabama, and they allow mask Ku Klux Klan people 57 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 5: to harass black students and prevent them from coming to classes. 58 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 5: They encourage their teachers to teach white supremacy. And the 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: Justice Department says, you know, maybe we're going to do 60 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 5: something about this. Maybe we'll pull the funding, maybe we'll 61 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 5: start doing investigations. 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: Every liberal I know would be supporting that. 63 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: And the only people who would be defending the universities 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 5: are segregationists like Governor Wallace, who praised the University of 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 5: Alabama and Old Miss from maintaining segregation. 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: And so what's the difference. The only difference is in the. 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: Nineteen fifties, it was the clan that was harassing African 68 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 5: American students. Today it's the variation of the Klan called 69 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: Hamas wearing masks that are harassing Jewish students, preventing them 70 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 5: from classes. And teachers who are teaching essentially anti Semitism, 71 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 5: And so the government comes in and says we're going 72 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: to condition federal funding. And yet people attack the university saying, oh, 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 5: that's a terrible thing to do. 74 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: It interferes with academic freedom. 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 5: Well, it wouldn't interfere with academic freedom if you are 76 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 5: protecting blacks and gays and transgenders. It only interferes with 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: academic freedom if you're defending Jews, and you cannot have 78 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 5: that kind of a double standard. Harvard, in the end 79 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 5: will fold. Why do I think Harvard will fold? Because 80 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 5: it will lose in court, and it will lose in 81 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 5: the court of public opinion. The vast majority of Americans 82 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 5: don't want to give money to a school that is 83 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 5: teaching anti Semitism. 84 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: I want to get to the court case here at 85 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: a minute, but I want to ask you, and I. 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: Don't know what the right thing to do is part 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: of me is you know what? 88 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: I love that you're a Jewish professor on a campus 89 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: that seems to hate Jews, and you're standing and fighting. 90 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: But if you ever thought, you know what, take my 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: fancy title. I'm out of here. 92 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't want any association with Harvard anymore. 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 5: I almost did that back in the day when I 94 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 5: was just an assistant professor. I threatened to quit if 95 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 5: Harvard maintained this policy of never allowing a Jew to 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 5: be a dean or Jew. 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: To be a president of the university. And I got 98 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: them to change their views. 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 6: Look. 100 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 5: Remember in the nineteen thirties the president of Harvard welcome 101 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: Nazis on the Harvard campus, supported Nazism. 102 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: Harvard has a terrible, terrible history of. 103 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 5: Anti Semitism, anti Catholicism, anti Christianity. It has a terrible 104 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: record of bigotry when it comes to conservatives. It has 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 5: become a radical university that is one sided, and it 106 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 5: will lose in court because nobody is entitled to government funding. 107 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: So I think they will settle. Why do I think 108 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 5: they will settle. They're presenting a very strong front. They're saying, 109 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 5: oh my god, we'll never settle. We're going to fight, 110 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 5: We're going to fight. We have Elizabeth Warren on our 111 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 5: side after all. But well, who do they hire as 112 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 5: their lawyers. They hire two Trump lawyers, two people who 113 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 5: have worked for Trump, two people who have worked to 114 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 5: create negotiated resolutions. So I think they're talking out of 115 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 5: both sides of their mouth. Out of one side of 116 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 5: the mouth, they're saying to the faculty and to the 117 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 5: students and to the radicals, don't worry. 118 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 4: We're going to fight. 119 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 5: On the other side, they're telling you. The Trump people, 120 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 5: don't tell the faculty. But we're here to negotiate, and 121 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 5: we'll work something out. Because many of the things that 122 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 5: the government asked Harvard to do, it should do. 123 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 4: It's the right thing. Some of them go too far, 124 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: and that's why we have negotiation. 125 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 5: So I think in the end this be negotiated in 126 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 5: a way that serves the interests of all sides. 127 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: So President Trump raised the issue on truth social maybe 128 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 2: we should pull their tax exempt status. He doesn't have 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: the power as president to do that. In fact, the 130 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: way I read the law, he's not supposed to even 131 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: talk to the irs about it. He says, Hey, I'm 132 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: just reading about this stuff. I'm not talking to the 133 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: irs about that. Do you think the Eye would be 134 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: well within their bounds to pull tax exempt status from 135 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: Harvard University seeing that Harvard's history recent history here. 136 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: Well, there is a case on point. 137 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 5: There was a Christian university, a small Christian University and 138 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 5: the IRS pulled its tax exemption because it was discriminating 139 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 5: against women and against gays. And so if you can 140 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: pull a tax exemption for discrimination against women and gays, 141 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 5: you surely can do it for discrimination against Jews and 142 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 5: Catholics and others. So there is a legal basis. Look, 143 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 5: Harvard cannot come out of this thing as a winner. 144 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 5: It's losing in the court of public opinion. Americans don't 145 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 5: want their tax money to go to a wealthy school 146 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 5: that mostly has very, very rich students. It has also 147 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: some poor students, some middle class students, but you know, 148 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: it's one hundred thousand dollars in tuition. 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: So they're going to lose in the court of public opinion. 150 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: And I think they'll lose at least some of their 151 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 5: cases in the court of law. So if I were 152 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 5: Harvard's and I'm not, I would say, let's go to 153 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 5: the bargaining table. Let's negotiate, let's accept some of the provisions, 154 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 5: let's fight about some of the provisions, and let's see 155 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 5: if we can compromise. 156 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: All Right, last question for you, So I'll take it 157 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: as a no that you're not going to leave Harvard 158 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: in disgust. 159 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: Are they at least listening to you at all, Professor. 160 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: Not only that, but I've been an emeritus for eleven years. 161 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 5: I was one of the most popular teachers ever at Harvard. 162 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 5: I taught ten thousand students. Harvard has never invited me 163 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: back in the last eleven years. They have essentially prohibited 164 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 5: me from speaking and making a moderate pro Israel case. 165 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 5: They do not want to hear all sides of all issues. 166 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: Today. Harvard would not even allow the Lincoln. 167 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 5: Douglas debates, and so no, no, I'm not being listened 168 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 5: to at Harvard, and the students aren't being given an 169 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 5: opportunity even to hear my point of view. I have 170 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: offered to come to Harvard and talk about my new 171 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 5: book you mentioned at the Preventish State. 172 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: I asked to speak to the FATA about this book. No, 173 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: they didn't invite me. 174 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: I asked to speak to the student body about Israel. 175 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 4: No they didn't invite me. 176 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 5: Harvard has become a place where only one side of 177 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 5: ideological and political issues. Ninety five percent of the Harvard 178 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 5: faculty are anti Trump and anti Republican and anti conservative, 179 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 5: and so no, it's not an educational institution. It's a 180 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 5: platform from propaganda. 181 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: Well, but I still appreciate your It should. 182 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 4: Have research money. 183 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: It shouldn't deny money for research on cancer and objective 184 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 5: things of that. 185 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 4: When it comes to some aeriel. Oh, federal government shouldn't 186 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: be funding that. 187 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: Well, I of course appreciate your voice on this, Professor Dersher, 188 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: which is always good to see you. I'm always grateful 189 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: when you spent some time with me here, and again, 190 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: thank you for coming on in the new book Preventative State. 191 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: Good luck with that. 192 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: Urage everybody to go out and get it, like all 193 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: your other books, professor, thank. 194 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 4: You, Thank you so much. I appreciate it. 195 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: Absolutely is good seeing you again too. All Right, folks, 196 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: I want to turn now to well. To me are 197 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: two absolutely disgusting stories, both coming out of Dallas. Both 198 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: involved young seventeen year old well accused criminals. 199 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. 200 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: First off, let's start with Carmelo Anthony. This is the 201 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: black team who was accused of stabbing a white football 202 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: star at a track meet in the chest and killing 203 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: that football star. Anthony says it was self defense. Well, 204 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: today they held their first news conference. Now I'm not 205 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: quite sure why they're even holding a news conference. Now, 206 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: you think you'd want to keep your head low and 207 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: let the courts do their thing. But they hired a 208 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter activist from the Next Generation Action Network. 209 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: I've known this guy a long time. His name is 210 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: Dominique Alexander. 211 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: He's got a criminal history, including shaking a baby that 212 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: he was charged with. And what do they do The 213 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: victims father, Austin Metcalf's father, Jeff Metcalf, showed up to 214 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: this news conference and they had him kicked out. 215 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: They didn't just ask him to leave. 216 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: They told him he would be charged with trespassing if 217 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: he didn't leave the property. Now, a victim's father has 218 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: a right to hear this news conference. 219 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: You don't kick a victim's father out. 220 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: This from a family that has raised almost half. 221 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: A million dollars. 222 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: Now, who is sending money to a man that now 223 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: admits that he killed this guy self defense or not. 224 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: I don't buy that personally. Well, let a jury figure 225 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: that out. They move into a nine hundred thousand dollars house, 226 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm told by the Dallas Morning News, potentially buying a 227 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: new car that in the Dallas Express, and they kicked 228 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: the father out to me. It is absolutely disgusting. And 229 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: what does this Black Lives Matter leader have to say 230 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: about it? 231 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 7: Listen to this that was disrespectful and just shows you all. 232 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: The character. 233 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: Who is not invited. 234 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 7: He knows that is inappropriate to be near this family, 235 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 7: but he did. And so I say to people, actions 236 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 7: speak louder than words. 237 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: Okay, mona scratcher off, I'm not seconds worth. You want 238 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: to talk about character, your client or whatever. He is 239 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: stabbed a seventeen year old in the heart and he 240 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: died in his twin brother's arms, and you're talking about character. 241 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,479 Speaker 2: Since when do accused murderers become victims in America? 242 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 8: Oh? 243 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: I forgot. 244 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: I hate to break the news to everybody, but for 245 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: some reason, in the minority communities, somehow, when you commit 246 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: a crime, you're now a victim. To me, it's an 247 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: absolute outrage. And then I see this you probably heard 248 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: when it happened, the shooting at Wilma Hutchins High School 249 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: just south of Dallas. Seventeen year old goes in, shoots 250 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: four kids, four kids, Thankfully all of. 251 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: Them are going to live. Okay. 252 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: He escapes and turns himself into cops, and he shakes 253 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: hands with the cops. The cops. It's like a hero's welcome. 254 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: This is like a celebrity event or something outside the 255 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Dallas County jail. We've lost our minds in this county 256 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: roll it. 257 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: Get him. 258 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: I got him, he says, I got him, after shaking 259 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 2: all the hands like it's some kind of a celebrity. 260 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: I'm told they hired a social media expert for all 261 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: of this. Since when is turning your son into the 262 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: police for attempted murder mean that it should be a 263 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: social media viral event? 264 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: My lord, what is happening in this country? 265 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if this kid thinks she's going to 266 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: raise all kinds of money on gofund me as. 267 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Well after trying to shoot four kids in school. 268 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: Well joining me now is the executive director of the Victims' 269 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Rights Reform Council. She's been on the program before. She 270 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: fights for victims' rights. Her name is Jennifer Harrison. Jennifer, 271 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: welcome to the program. I'm sorry, I'm getting upset. 272 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 9: No, I don't blame you. Thank you. Everybody should be 273 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 9: as infuriated as you are. 274 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: Jennifer, let me ask you. Let's go back to the 275 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: original story. They kicked the victim's father out. 276 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: Of a news conference. What in the world are they thinking? 277 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 10: I don't know, to be honest with you, Grant, I mean, 278 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 10: we live in a completely upside down world, and you know, 279 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 10: unfortunately you and I have been talking about this for. 280 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 6: A very long time. 281 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 9: But Carmelo Anthony is not the victim here. 282 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 10: And you know, Austin Metcalf's father has displayed nothing but 283 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 10: grace and humanity throughout an entirely disgusting and horrifying situation 284 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 10: for his family. He even went so far as to 285 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 10: publicly forgive Carmelo Anthony. 286 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 9: So I don't understand what they're talking about. 287 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 6: Character. 288 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 10: And for this family to display so grotesquely, you know, 289 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 10: portraying that their son, who we know, we know because 290 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 10: he admitted it, intentionally stuck a knife into another child 291 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 10: and took his life. To portray themselves as the victims 292 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 10: today is just absolutely disgusting. I just don't understand what 293 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 10: this world is coming to, and then to try and profit. 294 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: Off of it. 295 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: Look, I'm going to tell you, I know for a fact, 296 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: if it was a white kid that went and sat 297 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: on the tent of a mostly black team and the 298 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: black kids ask the white kid to move and the 299 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: white kids stabbed the black kid in the heart. There 300 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: would be no donations on GoFundMe from a mostly leftist 301 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: group to support Austin Metcalf, and there shouldn't be. You 302 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: don't donate to people who's put a knife in someone 303 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: for in my opinion, no reason. He says, self defense. 304 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: I say it's too much. You should never bring a 305 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: knife to a track meet. Now let me bring you 306 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: to the other situation. Why are police If we can 307 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: roll the video guys of Cut. 308 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Nineteen, we don't need to hear it. 309 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: But if you go to roll it while we say this, 310 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: why are police shaking hands? 311 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: We haven't cut excuse me not Cut nineteen. It's the 312 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: video of the shaking hands of police. 313 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: Why are police shaking hands with an accused school shooter? 314 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 6: I don't no grant. 315 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 10: I mean, like I said, the world has just turned 316 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 10: completely upside down. I think it's just ever since George 317 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 10: Floyd and the BLM and that whole movement, which you know, 318 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 10: glorified criminals. And I mean, I don't know how we 319 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 10: go back if this is where we are now. You know, 320 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 10: sadly these people are thinking of themselves as heroes. There's 321 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 10: no amount of respect or humanity on the streets anymore. 322 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 10: And you know, these these kids think that they're going 323 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 10: to be superstars if they kill somebody when they're disrespected 324 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 10: on you know, in school or on the field or whatever. 325 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 10: And this is the world we live. And meanwhile, you know, 326 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 10: my organization, as you know, tries to save lives. 327 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 9: We try to save lives. 328 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 10: Of victims of domestic violence and get them out of 329 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 10: you know, endangering situations. We try to save children from 330 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 10: child abuse. And we can't even raise ten thousand dollars, 331 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 10: but these cold blooded killers are raising five hundred thousand. 332 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 10: I mean, I just I don't. If you can explain it, 333 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 10: I would be happy to listen. 334 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: You you're a crime victim basically yourself, and we won't 335 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: go into that story, but I'd like you to do this. 336 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: You give me the website. 337 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: Maybe somebody out there will help donate to the Victims' 338 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: Rights Reform Council so you can help people instead of 339 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: go fundme pages for accused murderers. What's the website, Jennifer. 340 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 10: Thank you so much, Grant. It's Victims Rights Reform Council 341 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 10: dot org. 342 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: All right, Victims Rights Reform Council dot org. It's a 343 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: great organization. I've been talking to you, Jennifer for a 344 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: long time. I appreciate you coming on tonight and talking 345 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: with me about this. 346 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 10: I appreciate you and all of your support over the years. 347 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 10: And please don't give up, don't don't start, you know, 348 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 10: getting a keep the fight up, and don't don't be 349 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 10: complacent when this stuff comes because unless we stop, keep. 350 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 9: Talking about it and get fired up the way that you. 351 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 6: Have, it's not going to end. 352 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jennifer, you know me. 353 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: We're never backing down that that's not going to happen. 354 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 2: Let me play one more clip from here. This basically 355 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: sums up the whole situation of how bad things are 356 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: cut twenty. These were kids in class when the shooting 357 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: unfolded at Wilmer Hutchins. Okay, they're desensitized to violence, folks, 358 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: totally desensitized to this. 359 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: Watch that's a little gun. 360 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 6: Idiot. 361 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: You hear gunshots and you don't move. 362 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: You're that desensitized, You're that immune to this. 363 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: It's dangerous. 364 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: But the media, society, the place they live, gunshots of 365 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: the norm. 366 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: Now, I guess even in school not a good situation. 367 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: All right, Are high prescription drug prices going to be 368 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: the norm? 369 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 11: Now? 370 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: Wall Street journals reporting are tariffs on China could reach 371 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty five percent. You know, I've got 372 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: this prescription drug kit from. 373 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: The Wellness Company. 374 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: I've got a number of these kits because I think 375 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 2: what is going to happen if prescription drug prices are 376 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: going to go through the roof? Why? Because China says 377 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: they're shutting the entire operation down. TWC dot Health forward 378 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: slash rav by the way, to get one of these 379 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: TWC dot Health forward slash voice. Excuse me, forward slash 380 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: voice to get one of these kits. They say they're 381 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: going to ramp up and shut down sending us anything China. 382 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: We get eighty five percent of the ingredients for our 383 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: prescription medications from China. 384 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: What is that going to do to us? 385 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: I want to bring in with me now the chief 386 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: of Disaster and Emergency Medicine for the Wellness Company, doctor 387 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Kelly Victory, is here. Doctor Victory, welcome to the program. 388 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. As always, Grant, all. 389 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Right, you brought this to my attention. 390 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: You've been screaming about this for a long time and 391 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: letting people in high places know about this. We are 392 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: going to be at the mercy of China when it 393 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: comes to sscription medication, are we not? 394 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 6: Absolutely? This was a predictable event, Grant. 395 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 12: I've been talking and writing about this for well more 396 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 12: than a decade. Our over reliance on China for pharmaceuticals 397 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 12: represents one of, if not our greatest national security threat. 398 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 12: Americans have become addicted to low cost products, and this 399 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 12: problem with pharmaceuticals began with the Department of Defense outsourcing 400 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 12: the contracts for those prescriptions required by our military to China. 401 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 12: China was able to undercut the cause or the price 402 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 12: of American manufacturers, and therefore those contracts went to the Chinese. 403 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 6: As you stated. 404 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 12: Correctly, we now get eighty five to ninety percent of 405 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 12: all pharmaceuticals or their active ingredients come from China. We 406 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 12: are talking about relying on our greatest geopolitical foe to 407 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 12: get the medications that we need for everyday things from 408 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 12: high blood to diabetes. And it is one thing to 409 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 12: talk about buying a babble for your garden from China 410 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 12: or a T shirt that's cheap, but the idea of 411 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 12: buying your blood pressure medications or your child's diabetes medications 412 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 12: is ridiculous. All it would take is for the Chinese 413 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 12: to either jack the prices up exponentially, cut off the 414 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 12: supply entirely, or God forbid, taint the supply contaminated, and 415 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 12: we would be in a world of hurt. And now 416 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 12: we find ourselves with these tariffs, which I happen to 417 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 12: Holy support. 418 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 6: It is the right thing. 419 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 12: To do to bring manufacturing back to the United States, 420 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 12: but it won't happen overnight with pharmaceuticals, so we have 421 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 12: got to look at other options. What we can do 422 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 12: to sem the interim until we are able to get 423 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 12: that manufacturing happening back here on US soil. 424 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: So I guess the most important question is, yes, you 425 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: can get a kid or two or three or four 426 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: from the wellness company tw's dot hell forward slash voice 427 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: and urge people to do it. Use promo code voice 428 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 2: for ten percent off. But at some point, what are 429 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: we going to do? How do we ramp up production 430 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: here in the United States when we're getting ingredients from China? 431 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 2: China says, you know what, no more? Do we run 432 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: out of prescription medications? 433 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 12: Well in the interim, I would suggest in addition to 434 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 12: getting the emergency kits, we've got quite a number of 435 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 12: them at the Wellness Company. You can look at the 436 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 12: various contents of each of them and decide which one 437 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 12: is best for you. I also recommend that people get 438 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 12: an extra supply of their routine medications, blood pressure medications, 439 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 12: asthma medications. You can go to your insurance company and 440 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 12: request a vacation refill, meaning to buy a month or 441 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 12: two ahead and have that already in your possession. 442 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 6: It's just rational readiness. 443 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 12: In the meantime, I believe that we've got to incentivize 444 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 12: the refurbishment of our moribund manufacturing capability in the US. 445 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 12: We had those abilities previously, and we can do it again. 446 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 6: It won't happen overnight. 447 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 12: It can take two to three years to get a 448 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 12: pharmaceutical factory up and going. The last one that made, 449 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 12: for example, something as simple as a moxacillin in this 450 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 12: country was bankrupted back in two thousand and four. Our 451 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 12: last manufacturing facility that made sterile saline was wiped out 452 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 12: in Puerto Rico by Hurricane Marie. I mean, this can't happen. 453 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 12: We've got to do this back in the US. 454 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: Well Kelly Victory, I will tell you it's a great warning, 455 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 2: and I hope leaders of this country are listening to us, 456 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: and I hope some entrepreneurs are out there listening to 457 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 2: us to ramp up the production of this stuff. There's 458 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: going to be millionaires made off of this. And you 459 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: know what, I don't care about that your millionaires made 460 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: off of this, and we're going to help make us 461 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: secure as a nation. I'm one hundred percent all for it, 462 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: Doctor Victory. Let me tell people how they can find 463 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 2: you and the Wellness Company, and I want people to 464 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: go to TWC dot org, health Forward, slash voice, use 465 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: that promo code voice for ten percent off. 466 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: Those kits are great and uptown you. 467 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: Now more than ever, you'd want to have one of 468 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: those kits in your. 469 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: Household to keep your family safe. 470 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 2: All right, Folks, With tariff fears affecting markets, many are 471 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: worried about their portfolios. 472 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: But there's good news. 473 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: President Trump exempted gold and silver from tariffs, so you 474 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: can still protect it with your savings with precious medals. 475 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: To learn more, simply text America to the number nine 476 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: eight nine eight nine eight for a free Birch gold 477 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: infoKit on holding precious metals and attack sheltered ira. 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I know many 488 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: of you out there love TikTok. I actually use TikTok 489 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: even though they kicked me off like twice. So now 490 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 2: my TikTok handle is not Grant Stinchfield thinking I can 491 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: trick them into letting me survive on that platform for 492 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: a little while. But I use a burner phone because 493 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't trust TikTok. I don't trust what they're doing. 494 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: I think they are spying on American citizens, so I 495 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: use a separate phone. 496 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: Look, I've got two here, all right, both of. 497 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: Patriot Mobile, but this one sits in my office only 498 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: for TikTok. 499 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: This is the one I carry around with me. So 500 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: what are we going to do if TikTok doesn't get 501 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: sold to an American company soon? 502 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: President Trump can keep postponing this, but I don't know 503 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: how long this is going to happen. Well, I want 504 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: to bring in now South Dakota Governor Republican Larry Rodin 505 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: and the Wyoming entrepreneur looking to purchase TikTok. He's got 506 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: virtually a fifty billion dollar bid in Red Rasder. We've 507 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: had him on before. Reid, Governor, it's great to have 508 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: you both on the program. 509 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: Governor, I want to start with you. 510 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: South Dakota is taking an active role in Reid's bid here. 511 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: Why how can South Dakota help? 512 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 11: Well, you know, for a lot of reasons. 513 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 13: You know, South Dakota is kind of cybersecurity has been 514 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 13: at the forefront in South Dakota. 515 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 11: We're a huge egg state. 516 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 13: And the Nome Road Administration, former Governor Nome we announced 517 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 13: a year and a half ago that cybersecurity was our 518 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 13: next big industry. So we've focused a lot on technology 519 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 13: and we brought a lot of business to the state. 520 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 13: We have a lot of things going for South Dakota 521 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 13: and I think Reid has recognized that, and I think 522 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 13: that we've positioned ourselves better than any other state in 523 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 13: the nation to be a perfect fit for an American 524 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 13: owned TikTok to land inside to go to them. 525 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: All Right, So, read, I've talked to you about this before. 526 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: You're my favorite for the pick because I know you 527 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: think a lot like I think, and I really don't 528 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: trust Bezos over at Amazon and some of the other 529 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: characters that want to purchase TikTok and make it even worse. 530 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: How is this big going? Are you talking with TikTok? 531 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: Are you talking with the Trump administration? 532 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 14: Yeah, So we've been in communication with ByteDance and with 533 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 14: the administration from early on, and from the beginning, we've 534 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 14: said that this is going to be a massive footprint 535 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 14: in these mountain Midwest states, and we are so proud 536 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 14: that Governor Rodin has joined Team Raisner and is truly 537 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 14: leading the charge in the Mountain with Midwest states to 538 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 14: advance the technology and bring a trillion dollar industry and 539 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 14: a trillion dollar footprint throughout these Midwestern flyover states they 540 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 14: call us. It's going to secure the future of TikTok, 541 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 14: and we're excited the conversation is going good. 542 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: There's a lot of. 543 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 14: Geopolitical tensions, but that's out of our control. 544 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 11: We're focused on the. 545 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 14: Business and we're ready to sign the deal and get 546 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 14: this across the finish line. 547 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 11: Byte Edance is there with us too. 548 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 4: I'm pretty confident, all. 549 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: Right, So, Governor, a lot of this when you talk 550 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: about the electric power, especially with AI. Now, I'm not 551 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: sure TikTok's in that game. Read you may get into 552 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: that game. I'll ask you about that. But the energy capacity. 553 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: Your state is an energy state? Am I right on that? 554 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: Yes? 555 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 4: I believe so. 556 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 13: We kind of lead nations as far as a production 557 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 13: on a lot of fronts. We've focused on renewable energy, 558 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 13: and we of course we have a huge amount of 559 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 13: hydro electric capacity in South Dakota. Number of data centers 560 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 13: have been very serious about moving into South Dakota because 561 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 13: of the resources that we can bring to bear. 562 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: All Right, Reid, let me ask you about TikTok and 563 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: your plans if you were able to take it over. 564 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I just mentioned I've been kicked off of. 565 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: There like twice now, and I'm very careful about what 566 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: I post. 567 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: It Really, quite frankly, is a nightmare. 568 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: It's still very very biased towards conservatives. What is your 569 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: plan as far as that platform and opening it up 570 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: to all kinds of thought. 571 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 14: Yeah, so we're going to protect the First Amendment and 572 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 14: it is going to be a censorship free platform. You're 573 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 14: going to be able to speak freely on TikTok. It's 574 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 14: your first Amendment for a reason. In fact, when we 575 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 14: get this, I bet Governor Rodin will have us out 576 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 14: to Mount Rushmore and we can have a freedom of 577 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 14: speech big TikTok live with all of America, fireworks going, 578 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 14: and we can really set this thing off and make 579 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 14: it a big event for all of America. You'll get 580 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 14: your accounts back, I can promise you that. And there's 581 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 14: some really great things happening with AI Quantum Computing, and 582 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 14: we're excited to team with South Dakota. They're electrical, their 583 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 14: database centers and everything happening in that state. And we're 584 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 14: so excited for Governor Roadin. He's truly part of the 585 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 14: vision and part of the visionaries that are leading the 586 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 14: charge for these states. And when I talk about a 587 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 14: trillion dollar industry, the footprint is going to be massive, 588 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 14: and we are so happy that he has recognized this 589 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 14: and step forward as a leader for the Mountain West 590 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 14: States to lead the charge. 591 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: All right, Governor, I know you've been outspoken about the 592 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: need for free speech in this country. You have your 593 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: counterpart in California where a lot of these tech companies 594 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: are based, that literally was working with the FBI, working 595 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: with tech companies to shut down I'm talking about Gavin Newsom, 596 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: of course, to shut down conservative thought and conservative speech. 597 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: From South Dakota's perspective, from your perspective of governor, how 598 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: do you push free speech? Partnering with TikTok and getting 599 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: South Dakota and that just you know, infusion of freedom 600 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: that that state breathes. 601 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: They're involved in all of this. Yeah, well, you know. 602 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 13: It makes me smile because I've said it many times 603 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 13: without reservation. South Dakota is the free estate and a 604 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 13: nation founded on the principles of freedom. And I think 605 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 13: we've not just talked to talk, we walked the walk. 606 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 13: And for me, this is exciting to me because I 607 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 13: think it would just be poetic. 608 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 11: See, it was a year and a half ago that 609 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 11: former governor known banned. 610 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 13: TikTok in South Dakota. We were the first state to 611 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 13: do that, to ban the Communists owned TikTok. How fitting 612 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 13: would it be for an American owned TikTok that believes 613 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 13: in conservative values and understands where our rights, liberties and 614 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 13: freedoms come from. How fitting would it be for them 615 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 13: to land in a state like South Dakota. I think 616 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 13: would be very I would I. 617 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: Would love to see it happen. 618 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: I like the both of you, and I think it 619 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: would whatever freshing one to eighty from where TikTok is 620 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: now read. I guess I'll ask you the last question. 621 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: Your bid is, am I right? At fifty billion dollars? 622 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: How does that compare to the others that are own 623 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: money around? And where do you see this going? I'll 624 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: give you the last word. 625 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 14: Yeah, we are twenty billion dollars higher. We are the 626 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 14: canyon a park. There is so much space between us, 627 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 14: higher than any other bid. And what makes us the 628 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 14: most American and as President Trump actually truth social doubt, 629 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 14: the most Trumpian offer is that we're going to develop 630 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 14: the Sovereign Wealth Fund. I'm calling it the Freedom Fund 631 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 14: for President Trump to establish that legacy, and we're going 632 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 14: to create a fourth legacy industry across these Midwestern and 633 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 14: Mountain West states. That's truly going to be remarkable creating 634 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 14: what is a fourth legacy industry, stabilizing these economies finally, 635 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 14: So get out there and make your voice heard and 636 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 14: tell President Trump and Vice President Vance that this deal 637 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 14: needs to go through. We need to save TikTok and 638 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 14: make it American owned and protect the user's data. These 639 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 14: are American people's data, and it's pure espionage at this point, 640 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 14: is what's happening. But we are the greatest American first 641 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 14: and the biggest offer out there. We've raised a lot 642 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 14: of money and we're ready to ink a deal. And 643 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 14: I think Byte dances at the table with us. So 644 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 14: truly China needs to get to the table and figure 645 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 14: something out soon. 646 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, I would like nothing more than not only get 647 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: my old account back, but take this phone and get 648 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: the TikTok from this phone onto this phone that I 649 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: carry around with me all the time. And I know 650 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 2: that'll happen the moment that you guys take over. Governor Rohta, 651 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: it's a great pleasure having you on the program. I 652 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: appreciate you sharing time with us. Red raise their thank 653 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: you and good luck on the bid. We wish you 654 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: all the lucky. Please keep us posted to both of you. Absolutely, 655 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: thank you, all right, thank you, thank you guys. All 656 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: right up next, folks, West Virginia is leveraging their energy base. 657 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: We could have had like an. 658 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: Energy off between the South Dakota governor and a senator 659 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: from West Virginia about who's got the best energy. I'll 660 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: tell you if both states are doing it really well, 661 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: West Virginia specifically when it comes to coal and again 662 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence in the news, we're going to talk about 663 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: that next. 664 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone, Welcome to the program. 665 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: President Trump today making a declaration against China when it 666 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: comes to artificial intelligence. 667 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 668 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 15: To remain number one in AI, we're gonna have to 669 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 15: develop our electricity from take our whole country. We're gonna 670 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 15: have to develop our electricity. Think of that, and probably 671 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 15: even triple it up. And we're gonna let them build 672 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 15: their own electric plants. With their plant that they're building 673 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 15: for the AI or whatever they're doing never been done before. 674 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 4: We're gonna get them quick approvals. 675 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 15: It's gonna be very clean, gonna be very nice, and 676 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 15: we're gonna get a very fast approvals. 677 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: I'll tell you there's something else. You need electricity for 678 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: bitcoin mining. These are the two big tech industries right now. 679 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: When you talk to crypto current mining and AI, you 680 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: need electricity and you need a lot of it. Who 681 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 2: has the ability to generate electricity? How about West Virginia. 682 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be great to bring back West Virginia's coal 683 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: miners and the coal industry Right now that industry is 684 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: virtually dead starting a resurrection with President Trump's executive orders 685 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: to unleash the coal industry. 686 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: I want to bring in now. 687 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: West Virginia State Senator Republican chairman of the West Virginia 688 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: Energy Industry and Mining Committee, Chris Rose is with us. 689 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: Senator, it's great to have you back on the program. 690 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 11: Thank you, Graham. It's good to be back. 691 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: All right. 692 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: So, look, President Trump has some plans to unleash coal. 693 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: I love, I loved. 694 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: I used to have a hat that said count on Coal, 695 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: and I'd trigger all the left when i'd wear that around. 696 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: But I love that hat because you can count on it. 697 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: West Virginia's taking some big steps to follow in President 698 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: Trump's follow his lead. 699 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: Here, can you tell us what you all are doing? 700 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's the first and foremost I have I had 701 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 8: very similar to what you're talking about, actually says make 702 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 8: coal great again, and West Virginia's took some great strides 703 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 8: of this session to do that. So House Bill twenty fourteen, 704 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 8: which we know as the Microgrid and Data Center Bill, 705 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 8: is actually unleashing West Virginia energy and also attracting data 706 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 8: centers and microgrids here to West Virginia because these data 707 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 8: centers consume enormous amounts of electricity and they have interest 708 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 8: in West Virginia coal gas and water to do that. 709 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 8: They pull and a gas for the generation source and 710 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 8: the water for pooling, and those are three things that 711 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 8: West Virginia is abundant in and we just passed to 712 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 8: build with a huge help from our governor and a 713 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 8: lot of the people in the Senate work together to 714 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 8: get this thing done so West Virginia can be the 715 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 8: data center hope for the United States and help President 716 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 8: Trump win this war with China to be the technological 717 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 8: superpower of the future. 718 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: All Right, how was the coal industry doing? Will it 719 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 2: take a while to ramp it back up? I use 720 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 2: the example I vacation sometimes on the Tennessee River, and 721 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: I love it it's a beautiful place. It used to 722 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,479 Speaker 2: be filled with coal barges. Last summer I was there. 723 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, I maybe saw one in three days. 724 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: How's the coal industry doing it in West Virginia. 725 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 11: We're starting to see an uptick. You know. 726 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 8: We've worked at the Trump administration in his Department of 727 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 8: Energy to increase some export sales to India. Domestic use 728 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 8: is going to take a couple of years to get 729 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 8: consumption up as we you know, you see with the 730 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 8: executive orders the coal plants coming back online, keeping the 731 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 8: other ones open, but also for these microgrids to be built. 732 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 11: It's going to take a couple of years. 733 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 8: But in the meantime he's been doing a phenomenal job 734 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 8: setting us up with a lot of our allies that 735 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 8: consume more West Virginia and America coal. 736 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 11: So under Trump administration. 737 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 8: And hopefully in twenty twenty eight, you know Vice President Advance, 738 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 8: when he becomes president, we can continue this on and 739 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 8: revive coal. 740 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 11: Is we finally have a president who is endo the 741 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 11: war on coal. 742 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: Look, I want to burn coal in a clean fashion 743 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: just as much as anybody does, and I think that's important. 744 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: Can you produce electricity for as cheap as you could 745 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: with coal, with clean coal technology and instituting that is 746 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: this a legitimate thing? 747 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 9: Now? 748 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: Is the technology they are to do this? 749 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 8: So I would argue that technology is already there with 750 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 8: the modern day scrubbers that the coal fire generation fleet 751 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 8: in the United States already has. If you was to 752 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 8: shut all of that off today like a light switch, 753 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 8: it would make zero measurable difference in the entire world's emissions. 754 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 11: So you know, the climate change thing is a hoax. 755 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 11: All this. 756 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 8: You know that the coal plants are dirty as a hoax. 757 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 8: West Virginia and the United States already has the cleanest 758 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 8: coal fired power generation in the world, is the most 759 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 8: affordable and reliable, and these data centers are coming here 760 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 8: because of that. 761 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 11: We're going to see micro grids actually use coal. 762 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 8: We're going to see some new coal fired generation being 763 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 8: built onto the grid because everyone knows it's the most 764 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 8: affordable and reliable electricity. And the days of subsidizing unaffordable 765 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 8: and unreliable Green New Deal is over all. 766 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: Right, You've been a big part of pushing this. You're 767 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 2: a big make America great again guy. I know you're 768 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: a big Trump supporter. There have been those in West 769 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 2: Virginia that come after you with a vengeance for some reason. 770 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 2: I know West Virginia is a conservative state. 771 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: Are they still coming after You're going to be able 772 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: to get this stuff through? 773 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 8: Well, of course the other side are never going to stop, 774 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 8: but neither of We have to get it through because 775 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 8: we have to deliver for West Virginia. We have to 776 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 8: get these coal miners back to work, these gas workers 777 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 8: to work. We have the greatest resources here in the country, 778 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 8: right here in West Virginia. 779 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 11: We have the greatest workers, and. 780 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 8: We're not going to wow these special interest groups and 781 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 8: the Green New Deal lobby and stand in our way, 782 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 8: and we're absolutely going to deliver for President and Trump. 783 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: Lastly, how helpful was his executive order last week to 784 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 2: start to. 785 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: Unleash this. 786 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 4: All. 787 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 11: It was phenomenal. 788 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 8: It's been a shot in the arm that our industry 789 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 8: has been waiting for for the last two decades. We 790 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 8: lived through the Obama war on coal and the Biden administration. 791 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 11: These executive orders. 792 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 8: These co producers are coal miners, they're pumped, they're stoked. 793 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 8: They're rallying behind our president, the greatest president of our lifetime, 794 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 8: and we. 795 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 11: Are ready to help him make America great again. 796 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so great to hear. West Virginia State Senator 797 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 2: Chris Rose. I appreciate you coming on the program. Keep 798 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 2: us posted any future things you're working on. We enjoy 799 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 2: having y on. Thank you, Grean, I appreciate it absolutely. 800 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: And you want to talk about salt of the earth, Americans, 801 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: what this country was built on. You go talk to 802 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 2: coal miners. I've talked to them many times in western Pennsylvania. 803 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 2: I've talked to them in West Virginia. I've talked to 804 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 2: them in parts of Ohio. This these folks are what 805 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: make America great. They really are. And I'm glad to 806 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 2: see that we're going to get these plants back fired up, 807 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 2: ready to go and get America back on track. Finally, 808 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 2: thank you, President Trump. All right, if you are at 809 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 2: risk of missing today's deadlines, it today, Oh my gosh, 810 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: it is. If you are at risk of missing today's 811 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 2: deadline to file your taxes, you need to listen up. 812 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 2: Wait a second, it's not today. It was April fifteenth, 813 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: wasn't it. Unless there was a delay. You're already late, folks. 814 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: So now you really got a call Tax Network USA. 815 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: The irs is ramping up enforcement, and every day you 816 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 2: wait only makes things worse. If you owe back taxes, 817 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: the IRS will not hesitate to you tools like property seizure, 818 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 2: bank levies, and wage garnishments. The good news there's still 819 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: time for Tax Network USA to help you. Even after 820 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 2: the deadline. It is not too late to regain control. 821 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: Your consultation is totally free. Act now before your situation escalates. 822 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 2: Call one eight hundred nine oh five eight thousand, or 823 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 2: visit TNUSA dot com. 824 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: Forward slash raf. 825 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: All right, the Kilmar Abrego saga continues. 826 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: Yes, this is the. 827 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: El Salvadorian MS thirteen gang member that the Left wants 828 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: to make out to be some kind of hero. 829 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: We dig into that more next. Welcome back here. But 830 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. 831 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 2: The Democrats really know how to pick poster boys, don't they. 832 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: Let's pick an MS thirteen gang member who beats his wife, 833 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 2: has numerous traffic tickets stuck into the country and the 834 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 2: lord knows what else. Let's pick him to fight for. Well, 835 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: CNN had his attorney on, of course. I'm talking about 836 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: Abrego Garcia, the man Trump deported to El Salvador. 837 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 12: This is his attorney, and do you dispute his alleged 838 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 12: ties to m S thirteen. 839 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 16: I mean absolutely, you know, he has not been found 840 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 16: guilty of anything. 841 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 6: He has no criminal history. 842 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 11: The government's own records show. 843 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: That, I don't know. 844 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 2: He's stuck into the country illegally. Okay, so he does 845 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: have a criminal history. You see, he came across the 846 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: border without telling anybody. 847 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: That's a crime. I hate to break the news to her. 848 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 2: There's also a restraining order against him for beating his wife. 849 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 2: He was kicked out of the house not to have 850 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: any contact with her. Now she's begging that he comes back. 851 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 2: And then there's all the police reports of being picked 852 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 2: up associating himself with MS thirteen gang members. That to 853 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 2: me is criminal history. Whether she wants to believe it 854 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 2: or not. 855 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: She goes on. 856 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 16: I also want to mention this Circuits decision saying, you know, 857 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 16: the government asserts that Abrigo Arsia is a terrorist and 858 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 16: a member of MS thirteen, perhaps perhaps not. Regardless, he 859 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 16: is still entitled to due process and that's the key point. 860 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 16: That's the key issue. Bring him back and then let's 861 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 16: put it all out there. Let's have the hearing. 862 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: Did she read the court documents and the decision. I 863 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: don't think she did. I think this lawyer is a 864 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 2: very bad lawyer. For him, he has a deportation order 865 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 2: in place, which means a court is ruled he must 866 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: be deported. Now, there are the ties to the MS 867 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 2: thirteen gang. President Trump has declared MS thirteen a foreign 868 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: terrorist organization. You do not get due process. If you 869 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 2: come into the country and you have ties to a 870 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: terrorist organization, you can instantly be deported. 871 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: So due process for what I would ask. 872 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 2: He has already been through the court process and the 873 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 2: court has ruled you must be deported. 874 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: But again, they don't look at things like this. 875 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: So President Trump was with Maloney today and he was 876 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 2: talking about activist judges watch this and to think what. 877 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: They've done to our country. 878 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 6: And I was elected to straighten that out, and I'm 879 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 6: doing that. 880 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: But we have. 881 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 17: Activist judges that don't want murderers to be sent out 882 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 17: of our country. They don't want killers and drug dealers 883 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 17: and drug layers and people from mental institutions. 884 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: They want them to say in our country. I guess 885 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 886 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 17: Maybe that's a liberal way, or as they call it nowadays, 887 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 17: the progressive way. 888 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 2: Please don't call it progressives. They made up that nickname 889 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: for themselves. It sounds all positive. There's nothing progressive about them. 890 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: They're regressive. They want to take us back to the 891 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 2: Stone Age, where criminals rule the streets. 892 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: Not law and order. 893 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 2: And so these activist judges now threatening to hold many 894 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 2: in the Trump administration in contempt of court for deporting 895 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 2: someone that a judge ruled must be deported. 896 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: Go figure. This is what we're up against in this country. 897 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 2: It's sad, but President Trump is changing it in large 898 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 2: part thanks to all of you. All right, Up next, 899 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom is begging Canadians to visit California. 900 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: Wait for this, embarrassed next, Welcome back everyone. 901 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 2: So Gaven Newssom out in California, the governor there is 902 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 2: trying to cozy up with China, and now he's trying 903 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 2: to cozy up with Canada because the state's destroyed and 904 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: he needs help from everybody. I think he wants to 905 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 2: sell plump jack wine to China. That's why he's working 906 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 2: the tariffs out there, and he knows he needs income, 907 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,479 Speaker 2: so he wants Canadians to come visit. 908 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: So what does he do? They've got an entertainment industry 909 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: yet there. 910 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 2: Clearly they didn't hire somebody from it to produce this 911 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 2: stupid video. 912 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 18: The Golden State and Canada have always shared so much 913 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 18: in common. Sure, you know who's trying to stir things 914 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 18: up back in DC, but don't let that ruin your 915 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 18: beach plants. California it's the ultimate playground, two thousand miles 916 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 18: from washing It. 917 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 11: In a world away in mindset. 918 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 18: From our iconic beaches in national parks to world class wine, 919 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 18: food and outdoor adventure. 920 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 11: There's something here for everyone. 921 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 2: Last year nearly oh yeah, there's something there for everyone 922 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 2: is so from homelessness to out of control crime, to 923 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: sales tax that's out of control, and the income tax 924 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 2: that's crazy, property taxes that are through the roof. I 925 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 2: could go on and on all the great things about California, 926 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,720 Speaker 2: including smog that's. 927 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: Gonna do it for us. 928 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 2: Have yourself a fabulous Easter weekend, folks. 929 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: We will see you back here Monday. I'm off tomorrow