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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's the official show here on the

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Speaker 1: fish Stripes podcast channel. I'm Eli Sussman, the managing editor

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Speaker 1: of Fish Stripes. This show is presented to you by

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Speaker 1: symbol the Stock Market for Sports. How you doing, Marlins fans?

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Speaker 1: Coming off what was all things considered a good week

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Speaker 1: for this team, five and two, winning a series on

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Speaker 1: the road against the rival Braves and then winning another

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Speaker 1: series at home against the Giants, team that had been

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Speaker 1: playing pretty well. We'll be getting into each of those

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Speaker 1: three Giants games coming up here in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: The team overall now at seven and eight on the season,

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Speaker 1: nothing too sexy, not quite the sensation that they were

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Speaker 1: early on last year during the shortened season, but looking

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Speaker 1: back to the pre maybe several years for a full

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Speaker 1: length year, this has been an unusually solid start for

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Speaker 1: this team, one that we really haven't seen over the

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Speaker 1: normal rebuild seasons yet. A lot of individual star power

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Speaker 1: going on, and of course that's going to bring me

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Speaker 1: to the main subject of this pod that's going to

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Speaker 1: take up most of the episode, which is the potential

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Speaker 1: loss of starling Marte. Marte at the very very very

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Speaker 1: end of Sunday's game, suffering an injury. He's been such

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Speaker 1: a consistent presence for the Marlins in center field and

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Speaker 1: batting in the number two spot of the lineup, and

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Speaker 1: we need to come to terms with the fact that

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Speaker 1: he's probably going to miss some time and figure out

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Speaker 1: exactly who is going to fill his shoes and whether

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Speaker 1: anybody can fill his shoes. Some of the potential blessings

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Speaker 1: and other less experienced players are going to be thrown

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Speaker 1: into the fire for this team that has some competitive aspirations.

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Speaker 1: Every week, I always wonder exactly how to plan out

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Speaker 1: these shows, how much pre plan and what topics to

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Speaker 1: get into, and usually I'm thinking about those topics before

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Speaker 1: the previous game even ends. But in this case, all

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Speaker 1: those plans had to go out the window because Marte,

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Speaker 1: this is the biggest story affecting the team right now

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Speaker 1: and how exactly the team will be able to hold

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Speaker 1: things together in what could be a significant absence for him.

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Speaker 2: You hope it's nothing, but that's he keeps grabbing it

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Speaker 2: though it's concerning me because he's not letting it go

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Speaker 2: like sometimes you do that as a hitter, you'll feel

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Speaker 2: something in your body that doesn't feel right. The pain

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Speaker 2: lasts five six, seven seconds, gets your attention. There you go.

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Speaker 2: They need to be discussed because you don't want to

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Speaker 2: make it worse. Having been here before. If he takes

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Speaker 1: First, we're going to get into these three most recent

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Speaker 1: games against the Giants and Marlins, winning the first two

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Speaker 1: on Friday four to one. On Saturday, a walk off

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Speaker 1: win in ten innings seven to six, and then losing

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, getting shut out one to nothing. On Friday.

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Speaker 1: It was not all about Starling Marte, but he stole

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Speaker 1: the show at the end, certainly a three run game

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Speaker 1: winning home run against the Giants reliever No doubter to

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Speaker 1: left center field. After most of the day, the Marlins

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Speaker 1: Starting for that game for the Marlins, Daniel Costano his

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Speaker 1: first start of the season after pitching seven times during

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Speaker 1: last year's regular season. We have an article up on

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Speaker 1: Fish Strips from Nicole Cahill about that outing. She was

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Speaker 1: there to see it in person, breaking down what makes

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Speaker 1: Castano such an anomaly because this is a guy now

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Speaker 1: eight appearances into his career, seven starts, thirty five ish,

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Speaker 1: But all he does is prevent runs when he's on

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Speaker 1: strikeout zero, and overall, dating back to his debut last year,

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Speaker 1: You would never expect somebody in that situation to be

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Speaker 1: and he continues to be someone that I think going

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Speaker 1: forward you have to expect significant amount of regression from

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Speaker 1: if nothing else that went outing, He did just enough

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Speaker 2: They've been good in those situations all year though, third

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Speaker 2: best team average, Yo Marte hits one a mile deep

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Speaker 2: left center field. Goodbye three run over for Starling Marte.

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Speaker 1: Looking at Saturday's game, that's what I think everybody's still

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Speaker 1: final line doesn't always tell the whole story. He winds

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Speaker 1: up allowing four earned runs in six and the third innings,

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Speaker 1: but the first six of those were pretty damn perfect.

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Speaker 1: I mean, his fastball velocity was great as always, but

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Speaker 1: his command of his fastballs was even better in this one.

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Speaker 1: His changeup was incredible, as we've seen so far, in

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Speaker 1: It was a good weapon before, but now it is

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Speaker 1: going on with Blier, because he is one of this

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Speaker 1: second guest Mattingly, Why go to debt Weiler when you

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Speaker 1: this performance, striking out the side to keep the game

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Speaker 1: ninth inning thanks to Jazz Chisholm Junior. Again, this was

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Speaker 1: perhaps the peak of Jazz Mania on this night where

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Speaker 2: He is.

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Speaker 1: Everything you could have hoped for on this team, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of optimism about a sweep. You know that

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Speaker 1: In this particular game, I think we had about seventy

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Speaker 1: than that. With Pablo Lopez on the mound. Pablo did

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Speaker 1: another level. Nine strikeouts for Pablo and all nine of

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Speaker 1: left handed pitching. This track record that Miggy Roe has

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Speaker 1: hat on offensively in this one, Jazz, as usual, did

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Speaker 1: some nice things. He had a ball that should have

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Speaker 1: So maybe the game looks a little bit differ if

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Speaker 1: It couldn't hurt their trade value at this point, considering

433
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Speaker 1: that they're at rock bottom right now. If one of

434
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Speaker 1: them does perform well and we get later into the season,

435
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Speaker 1: perhaps even when Marte returns, they keep them around his depth.

436
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Speaker 1: But they'll come a time once we get hopefully to July,

437
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Speaker 1: if not August, at the very latest, where JJ Bilday

438
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Speaker 1: is ready, where Heesus Sanchez is back from is groin

439
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: injury that slowed him down in spring training and we

440
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Speaker 1: get to see what he's capable of. I've not given

441
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Speaker 1: up at all about Hayes Sus Sanchez and his power

442
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: jar and Carnacione, who is on the forty man roster

443
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: who lit up the Arizona Fall League the last time

444
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Speaker 1: that we saw him in extended official competition. That maybe

445
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Speaker 1: Gerar is ready to make an impact at the major

446
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: league level in some way. And we know this whole

447
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Speaker 1: wave they have even behind that with Cameron Meisner, with

448
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: Griffin co nine, with Victor Victor Mesa and Monte Harrison

449
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: continues to hang out and he really belongs in the

450
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Speaker 1: same category as as Brinson and Sierra. He has not

451
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Speaker 1: had the same amount of opportunities and I think at

452
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Speaker 1: this point he has still more upside that you can

453
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Speaker 1: dream on. This is just an educated guest at this

454
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: point that Brinson will be the guy that comes up

455
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Speaker 1: because he was the one that was obviously on the

456
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Speaker 1: opening day roster not that long ago, and the urgency

457
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Speaker 1: to find out what they have in Brinson makes them

458
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: a better candidate to call up. It should be noted though,

459
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Speaker 1: that there have been to this point at least three series,

460
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Speaker 1: so I would say, if not ten games, maybe even

461
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: a little more than that played with the fish Tank

462
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Speaker 1: roster against some of these other alternate training sites where

463
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: you've seen them travel to the Tampa Bay Alternate training site,

464
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: which is I think in Port Charlotte. They traveled to

465
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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays in Dunedin. They also hosted the Rays

466
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Speaker 1: at Jacksonville. That there have been some games being played,

467
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Speaker 1: there have been the evaluations on these players potentially have

468
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Speaker 1: changed a little bit. The Marlins are very tight lipped

469
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Speaker 1: about what is going on in those games taking place,

470
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Speaker 1: those scrimmages between high level minor leaguers on both sides,

471
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Speaker 1: but there has been some new information with Monte and

472
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Speaker 1: with Brinston have been a part of this group as

473
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Speaker 1: along with many of the other top prospects that are

474
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Speaker 1: on that fish tank roster. They've had an opportunity to

475
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Speaker 1: play games. Potentially something has happened there that may make

476
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Speaker 1: them consider going in a different direction here in terms

477
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Speaker 1: of who is the next man of another player to

478
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Speaker 1: mention Brian Miller, Brian Miller had a great spring training.

479
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: His skill set is pretty redundant with Magnari Sierra, so

480
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Speaker 1: I would expect that Miller's opportunity isn't right now. It

481
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Speaker 1: may come later in the year if they get rid

482
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Speaker 1: of Sierra, if certain injuries pop up, et cetera. He's

483
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: probably on the outside looking in. So you put your

484
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Speaker 1: money on Brinson being the one that gets called up

485
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Speaker 1: in place in Marte. If it doesn't happen on Tuesday,

486
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: it might not happen on Wednesday, it will definitely happen

487
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Speaker 1: by the time this new road trip starts on Thursday.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm not excited to see Brinton or Sierra in place

489
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: of Marte because we just know that the talents is

490
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: not there and there are more holes that are going

491
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: to be exploited. But at the very least we'll see

492
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: them tested in major league games. We'll finally get some

493
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: You could say, we probably have clarity on these players already,

494
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: but this will be a good time to get some

495
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: closure on them where the playing time is there. If

496
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Speaker 1: they don't take advantage of it, they're gone. Even if

497
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: they do take advantage of it, then you have a

498
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: good problem to have where they may finally resurrect their

499
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: trade value to some extent and you start planning for

500
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: the future. Then, with Marte out, it's not just filling

501
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 1: the shoes of the center field position, because whether it's

502
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: Sierra or whether it's Brentson, these guys will be batting

503
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: at the very bottom of the lineup. But this also

504
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: opens up a void in the batting order at the

505
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Speaker 1: number two spot, That is where Marte has been consistently

506
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Speaker 1: every single game this season and even dating back to

507
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Speaker 1: most of last year. When you have someone that has

508
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: moved out of that spot, it creates extra played appearances

509
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: for somebody else. One gripe that has been floating around

510
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: Marlin's community the last couple weeks, especially the last week

511
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: or so with Jazz on fire, is why not move

512
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Speaker 1: up him to the top of the order or very

513
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: close to it. I'll be curious to see what the

514
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: team does there, I mean, make the cop out solution

515
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: could just be shifting everybody up one spot in the lineup.

516
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: So let's see what that would mean. Where We've had

517
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Speaker 1: Hayeshu's Aguilar for most of the season batting in the

518
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: number three spot, so he could be a guy that

519
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: shifts up to number two, which is something that the

520
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: Marlins did do plenty of last season before they acquired Marte,

521
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: they had Aguilar batting in the number two spot quite

522
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: a bit. So just to look at some of these

523
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: recent batting orders and a possibility that if they keep

524
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: Dickerson in the leadoff spot, and there's been some momentum

525
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: about making a change there, but he did have a

526
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Speaker 1: four hit game in the last time he started, and

527
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: overall the offense has been fine, so I think Dickerson

528
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: is relatively safe in the leadoff spot for the time being.

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Speaker 1: If they shift everybody up, then you have Aguilar betting

530
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Speaker 1: number two. You probably have Adam Duval third, Brian Anderson, fourth,

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Speaker 1: Jazz Chisholm Junior, fifth, Miguel Rojas sixth, and then seventh

532
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: and eighth would be the catcher and the center field spot.

533
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: So either Alfaro and Wallack and then either see either

534
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: Sierra or Brinson or Bertie, And then the other possibility

535
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: is finally making that jump w with Jazz and giving

536
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: him more responsibility, just the way that a batting order works.

537
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: The difference between batting seconds and batting sixth is that

538
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: almost every other game you're missing out on a play appearance.

539
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: You simply don't get that deep into the lineup. There

540
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: have been a couple occasions so far in this start

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Speaker 1: to the season where Jazz was on deck or in

542
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: the hole when the game was being decided. For a

543
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: Marlins team that has been playing so many close games

544
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: seven games at this point that have been decided by

545
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: a single run, every played appearance is critical. You should

546
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: be getting your best players in an opportunity to do that.

547
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: I have been always cautious about the expectations for Jazz.

548
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: He is one of the best players in baseball at

549
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: this moment, but the league has a way of adjusting

550
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: to you. It always does, almost always, in almost every

551
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: single case, the league adjusts back to you, and so

552
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: for the moment, I think it's fair to say that

553
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: Jazz is not quite as good as his numbers would suggest.

554
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: The question is whether he's the best option they have

555
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: available right now at this stage of the season. To

556
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: bet in the number two spot without Marte, that it

557
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: creates a big void, and Jazz has that It's not

558
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: the same skill set exactly, but it's relatively close. It's

559
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: that raw power, it's the speed he has, it's awareness

560
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: of the strike zone that he can do on his

561
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: best days when he is totally locked in the way

562
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: that he has been for the last week plus. That

563
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: he is their closest, the closest thing to that the

564
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: Marlins have to imitating Marte's production in the lineup, So

565
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: he should be a serious consideration for that number two spot.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know what I would do, I

567
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: think that is what I would do in mattingly shoes,

568
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: that this is the time to give Jazz more responsibility

569
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Speaker 1: and to learn more about him, because it needs to

570
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: be emphasized again that this Marlins seem realistically is not

571
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: trying to be a World Series contender in twenty twenty one,

572
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: that their window isn't fully open yet, and one key

573
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: for this season, perhaps the most important thing is finding

574
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: out what you have in these young players, even Sierra

575
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: and even Brentson. We think we know what they have

576
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: in them and that they're not part of the future,

577
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: but this is the perfect time to find out and

578
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: having them on the roster make or break here for them,

579
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: make or break here for Jorge Alfaro, we know and

580
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: how how tenuous that was looking until Saturday night when

581
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: he finally came through in the clutch, And that will

582
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: be an ongoing storyline all year finding out whether you

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Speaker 1: think Alfaro is truly a solid primary catcher at the

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Speaker 1: major league level and Jazz where Jazz is, I mean,

585
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: the biggest bright spot of this entire offense for sure.

586
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: To this point this season looks like someone that you

587
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: can trust that second base for the near future and

588
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: for shortstop in the long term. It's incredibly exciting and

589
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: you want to just give him every opportunity possib full

590
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: to play and to find out and to make adjustments

591
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: at this point in the season so that when that

592
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: window of contention fully opens that he is the best

593
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: version of himself. The only way he's going to learn

594
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: is by getting reps, and the more reps the better,

595
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: and the more reps are possible if you're batting higher

596
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: up in the lineup. So my expectation is that they

597
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: simply shift everybody up about a spot in the lineup

598
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Speaker 1: and keep it a familiar look, just without Marte. And

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Speaker 1: my hope is that they are willing to be more

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Speaker 1: aggressive and to prioritize Jazz's developments and put him in

601
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Speaker 1: the number two spot. We will find out on Tuesday

602
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 1: when they host the Orioles for a pair of games.

603
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: Matt Harvey is going to be starting that first game

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Speaker 1: of the series. Old friend, old rival, Matt Harvey, who

605
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: has not faced the Marlins since his Mets days. The

606
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: hope is that they are able to get right against

607
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: him because at this stage of his career, he is

608
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: not going to shut you down. He is not going

609
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: to overpower you. That's a great opportunity for this team

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Speaker 1: to get back on track, to get back to the

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Speaker 1: five hundred mark, which is all things considered, that's a

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00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: nice place to be after stumbling out of the gates

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Speaker 1: during that first week of the regular season. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I'll be back with you on the podcast later this week.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have a Fish Stripes Live pre series

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Speaker 1: build up preview heading into Tuesday nights series opener, so

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Speaker 1: he'll be sure to watch that either on Twitter on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: on Twitch, just follow us at fish Stripes. Plenty of

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Speaker 1: content coming up on fish stripes dot com of course

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Speaker 1: our daily news roundups, our recaps, our analysis. Expect something

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Speaker 1: from me about Richard Bleier, looking to whether or not

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Speaker 1: they can get him finally back on track. And I'd

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Speaker 1: like to announce that we have a new intern here

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Speaker 1: at fish Stripes, just beginning here on Monday, officially Kevin Barrau.

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Speaker 1: He'll be doing a lot of work on our YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel and on our live streams. You'll be seeing him

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Speaker 1: and you'll be all s so enjoying his video editing skills.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have his passion for the Marlins and

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Speaker 1: than a curly it currently is. So we welcome Kevin

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Speaker 1: to fish Stripes as the latest addition to our staff.

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Speaker 1: I'm Eli Sussman, and I appreciate every single one of

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