1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: The Patriots Training Camp Cast is your source for all 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: the news from Patriots Training Camp. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Well, I do still watch the news. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: have you covered? What did I miss yesterday? Now here 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: to review today's practice the writers of Patriots dot Com. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: All right, welcome into another episode of the Patriots Training 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: Camp Cast. I Mike do So, joined by Paul Prillo 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: and Evan Lazar and guys. We just finished practice number ten. 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: It was a tough one. There's a lot of running today. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: For the writers. 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: It wasn't too tough for us. 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: We were properly hydrated, We had our binoculars, we were 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: taking our notes. But for the players, a lot of 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: short short downs, you know, short yardage, ground and pound. 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: We even saw some tackling today, live tackling. When was 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: the last time you saw a live tackle. 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: It's gotta be. 20 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: Twenty years, Mike, in all seriousness, Belichick used to do 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: some live goal line stuff, and even that we haven't 22 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: seen a lot of recently. They would tackle to the 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: ground and live goal line. But today in the middle 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: of the field, there were I don't know, maybe two, 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: you know, two two full periods, you know, ones, twos, threes, 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 2: tackling live to the ground, and it was hot. 27 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Again. 28 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: The humidity is just unrelenting and it's it's great whether 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: I think if you're a football coach to sort of 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: trying to prepare your team. But yeah, yeah, the players 31 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: went through a lot today. I would say, looked hot. 32 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: Looked hard. 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: What did you think? 34 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was not a football practice for people that 35 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 4: want to see a lot of passes down the field 36 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 4: or seven on seven or you know those the passing 37 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 4: camps as we call them. This was old school, smash 38 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: mouth short yardage football that I thought was largely controlled 39 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: by the defense today. It wasn't a whole lot of 40 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: space in the run game and in some of the 41 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: passing as well. A lot of pressure I felt like 42 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 4: on the quarterback today too. And then you have the 43 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: live tackling in there. So that gave the defense another 44 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: sort of advantage that they haven't had in the past. 45 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: So after two practices last week where we felt like 46 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: the offense is making some strides, the defense punched back 47 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 4: a little bit today, especially today. 48 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: He might kind of expect it just in this kind 49 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: of situation, but you know, I thought last week we 50 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: did see some space in the run game and there, 51 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 3: you know, it did feel like there was some progress. 52 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: I totally agree, Paul. I know you were down below watching, 53 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: but not a lot to write home about with the 54 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: offense today. Defense was very active. Uh you know another 55 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: I picked up an interception as well, Kyle dark who 56 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: was it. 57 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: I'm fully blanket on Myne Bentley. 58 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: Because they did some live goal line too at the 59 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: beginning of that really ramped up physical period, and I 60 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: thought Bentley was all over the place. He had a deflection, 61 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: a pick a, you know, a good a good tackle, 62 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: and open field too, so I did. There were a 63 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: lot of piles. I thought they were just creating a 64 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: lot of piles, and that's good. You know, that's good too, 65 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: gapping up front where you're not necessarily getting a lot 66 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: of penetration in the running game, but there are just 67 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: no lanes for the running backs to go. Just getting 68 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: piled up and immediately getting stopped. Yeah, you know, the 69 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: running back as he hits the line of scrimmage, he's 70 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: got to stop his legs because there's just no way 71 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: to go. 72 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 4: Oh. 73 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: So, depending on your perspective, you know, it was a 74 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: really good practice for the defense, you know, offensively, probably 75 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: still a work in progress. 76 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Purcell, big big guy right in the mix 77 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: in there with Devon Godchawn, you can see why. Just 78 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: a huge guy that can kind of control things. Otherwise though, 79 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: and I we don't want to get into too many details, 80 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: but we just I felt like we saw some twists today. 81 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: You know, some guys, different guys playing at fullback. We 82 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: saw a little bit of trickeration with some plays and stuff, 83 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: so you know, maybe layering some of that stuff in. 84 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 3: But to me, the big takeaway was what we said 85 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: first though, it was just this was a hard practice. 86 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: This feels like one of those practices where you're trying 87 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: to kind of not punish your team but really just 88 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: put them to a really hard, long practice that kind 89 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: of brings out the character of a team. 90 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like it's really interesting how Girod Mayo 91 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: has done this because as a former player, you always 92 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: hear players coach, and I know he's done some interviews 93 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: where he's pushed back a little bit on being called 94 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: a players coach. These practices to me do not feel like, hey, 95 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: he's taking it easy on the players at all. These 96 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: are long pre pctices, in the middle of the day, 97 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: in the middle of the heat, physical full pads, so 98 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: I have been it's interesting. I don't know what to 99 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: make of it yet, but it's interesting that they've decided 100 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: to go pretty hard the last couple of days. And 101 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: you do wonder with the starters or the ones, if 102 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: you want to call him that, how much action those 103 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: guys are gonna get on Thursday night, if they're gonna 104 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 4: have two back to back days in pads and go 105 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: at it a little bit. 106 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: Just listening to a couple of the guys out, you know, 107 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: Jelani Tavai talked about, you know, you got to get 108 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: your your head and your shoulders ready for the physicality 109 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: to tackle to the ground. And that's the first thing 110 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: I thought of, as well, this is how he's getting 111 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: that because he's probably not going to get it on Thursday. 112 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: It was the first thing I thought of, is what 113 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: Evan just said, which makes sense. That's what coaches do 114 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: a lot. Sometimes you'll see a joint practice, you know, 115 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: and the ones quote unquote will get the majority of 116 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: the work because they're not going to play in the game. 117 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: I think we saw a little of that today. 118 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: So just some housekeeping things as well. A little bit 119 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: of good news. Tekwon Thornton missed the practice last week, 120 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: was back on the field, had a pretty nice catch 121 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: I thought in seven on seven's are in the red 122 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: zone against Christian Gonzales. Nice touchdown craft for him. Jahem Bell, 123 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: who we haven't seen in a while, also back out there. 124 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: But it also seemed like Jabrill Pepper's kind of rounding 125 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: back into full participation even though he really only missed 126 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: one practice. Marcus Jones though not back. A little bit 127 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: of a disappointment, Paul, I know you talked about that. 128 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: I kind of hope to see him, and just with Thornton. First, 129 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: the touchdown was actually full team, it was eleven on 130 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: eleven red zone, but he spent some time after that 131 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: and the rest of practice down in the lower rehab field, 132 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: so he's clearly working back from something. But a good 133 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: time to see him right back out. They're only missing 134 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: one day. A couple of guys return today, Jahem Bell 135 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: in Calvin Anderson, but still you know, kind of searching 136 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: for that mix up front that still stands out to me. 137 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: But Darien Lowe and Calvin Anderson, where you're left and 138 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: right tackles today, and you know, I think if we 139 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: open the season like that, I don't think fans would 140 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: be overly excited about that. Now. 141 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: Krafoor continues to watch, right. 142 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, cor four continues to watch and Caden Wallace to 143 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: me is going through some rookie growing pains right now 144 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: is a nice way to put it. He's had some struggles. 145 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: I felt like, especially in the one on ones, you 146 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: can see some of the technique issues that he's still 147 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: working through are coming up in those situations when he 148 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: goes up against some veteran guys, they kind of know 149 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: what the counter with, you know, based off of what 150 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 4: he's doing. So maybe we were a little bit premature 151 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: with getting excited about Caden Wallace. At the beginning of 152 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: last week he was at left tackle with the ones 153 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 4: and it felt like he was making some progress the 154 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: last couple padded practices. Maybe coming back down to earth 155 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: a little bit for him and I will see what happens. 156 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: But I still feel like him and Jukes being the 157 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: starters at tackle week one makes me feel a lot 158 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: better because at least there's some upside and some unknown 159 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 4: there Whereas the Vidarian Lowe and Calvin Anderson, you kind 160 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: of know what they are at this point in their 161 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: NFL career. But it's similar to the quarterback like with 162 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: Kayden Wallace. Do you just throw them out there trial 163 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: by fire and hope that he swims instead of sinks 164 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: in the deep end? Or do you ease it in 165 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: like you probably are going to do at quarterback. It's 166 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: an interesting conversation, but without full padded practices for the 167 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: most part in season, it does feel like with offensive 168 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: linemen it's almost better to play them to get them 169 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: those live game reps so that they can develop that way, 170 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: because otherwise they're going to be doing a whole lot 171 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: of watching during the regular season. 172 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: Anything else we missed from today's practice. It was a 173 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: long one, not a lot to write home about. Not 174 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: a lot of big plays. 175 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just say, you know, for the quarterbacks. I know, 176 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: we're just focusing on quarterbacks. Today wasn't the day, you know. 177 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: You know, the few throws they made were mostly short. 178 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: Drake May did take a couple of deep shots that 179 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: neither one of them was really there. They were both, 180 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: you know, slightly overthrown. But for the most part, it 181 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: was a lot of getting the ball out quickly because 182 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: Evan said it early in the podcast, there was a 183 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: lot of pressure on the passer today. 184 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: All right, So ten practices down, we'll be back outside 185 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: tomorrow for the eleventh practices. We get ready for the 186 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: Panthers coming in Thursday nights, and I'm really sure we 187 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: are expecting things might be backing pads again tomorrow, So 188 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: maybe it'll be another tough one, maybe a little bit 189 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: more throwing at the ball, but you know, we'll have 190 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: you covered here on Patriots dot com, So to check 191 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: back in tomorrow afternoon for a full Patriots training campcast recap. 192 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast, Subscribe on Apple, google Play, 193 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, Please rate 194 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: and review us. 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