1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's a Mead Friday 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: pulled pork is on the trigger. Come on in, stay 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: a while. Mike Florio is going to join us. Coming 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: up a little bit. There are some rule proposals that 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: you need to be aware of in the NFL, including 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: a new overtime proposal, just a proposal. Right now, people 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: aren't talking about it as much as they probably should be. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: So Floria will join us, coming up in a little bit. 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Your phone call is always welcome. 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And 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: that's saying a lot because I've been doing this a 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: long time. But he talks about behind the scenes with 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: The Godfather, being around Marlon Brando and Al Pacino. It 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: was really a lot of fun to talk to James Kahn. 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll have a poll question for you. As 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: I mentioned our play of the day, the all star 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: rosters have been picked. Ben Roethlisberger takes a pay cut, 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: and we'll dive into those topics coming up in a 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: little bit. The Steelers ending the mystery about Roethlisberger yesterday 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: they resigned him at a reduced rate. They bring him 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: back for at least one more go round, and I 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: understand it. You know, Ben said it's not about the money. Well, 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Ben really fell on his sword because he's not able 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: to dictate the terms here. He had no other choice here, 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: And at the end of last season, it was kind 45 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: of tough to watch. The Steelers started out eleven and oh. 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: We weren't quite sure if that was a paper thin 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: eleven and oz start. They ended up twelve and four. 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: They suffered that brutal Wildcard loss to the Browns. But 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: in stark contrast to Rocklisberger's career, he couldn't get the 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: ball down field. Now didn't help that he had receivers 51 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: who couldn't hang onto the ball, but everything was underneath 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: with that offense, they did not have a running game, 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: and I thought it was all spoiled because you had 54 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: a defense that I thought was pretty elite before Bud 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Dupree went out. That was a pretty elite defense in 56 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: my opinion. Ben just turned thirty nine earlier this week. 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: He's not moving around with defenders hanging off of him 58 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: like he used to. But that doesn't mean Pittsburgh can't 59 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: win with a thirty nine year old quarterback. It's not 60 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: like Ben had a lot of mobility before. The Buccaneers 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with a forty three year old quarterback. 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: But I always felt that Brady's arm was stronger than 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's arm. And at that age, you're usually seeing the 64 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: zip leaves the football leaves your arm, and that's a 65 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: big difference here, because then you could only throw underneath. 66 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: You know, Drew Brees maybe never had that zip, but 67 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: he had a little bit more zip. He didn't have 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: it the last couple of years. And that's why I 69 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: didn't pick the Saints. I was always nervous because I 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: didn't know late in the season. You know, if you're traveling, 71 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: you're on the road, you're in Green Bay, can you 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: have that zip? Can you throw the ball down the field? 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: And we saw that the Saints weren't able to do that. 74 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: But the Steelers face some challenges. Big Ben needs to 75 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: be better, team needs to be better for all of 76 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: this to work. In twenty one, it felt like an 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: indictment on Mason Rudolph, the backup quarterback. He's going to 78 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: be a free agent, and if Mason Rudolph had shown 79 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: that he could be a starting quarterback, then maybe you 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: say to Ben, thank you nice parting gifts. They did 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: bring in Dwayne Haskins, and okay, you take a shot 82 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: on Haskins doesn't cost you much. You bring him in. 83 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: It's sort of like the Saints did with Jamos Winston, 84 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: even though Haskins has less of a resume. You see 85 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: what you have here, maybe you have something. My thought was, 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: are you ready to win now in Pittsburgh? Yes, I'm 87 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: sure they feel that way. Does Ben give you a 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: better opportunity than some other quarterback? I guess you could 89 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: make that argument. My point was, I want to hit 90 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: the reset button at the quarterbacking position as soon as 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I can. If you said Ben was playing at a 92 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: high level, an elite level, then I would say, all right, 93 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: Ben's our guy. But if the Steelers had a pick 94 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: in the top eight, top six, are they bringing Ben back? 95 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: And maybe they do, but they have the twenty worth 96 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: pick in the draft, and as far as quarterbacks go, 97 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: and that's no man's land, I don't know if they 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: trade up. I don't know if you try to get 99 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback. And we're always surprised on draft Day. And 100 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: that's why I don't think Deshaun Watson is traded. I mean, 101 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: if he's going to be traded, it'll be closer to 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: the draft. You know, it might be the week of 103 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: the draft. But the Kansas City Chiefs targeted Patrick Mahomes 104 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: as their quarterback of the future, and they paid heavily 105 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: to move up to get him. They had the twenty 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: seventh overall pick, so they gave that up, a third 107 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: round pick and their twenty eighteen first round pick to 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo to move up to number ten to select Mahomes. 109 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: But they had to jump up because the Kansas City 110 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: Chiefs were worried about the Arizona Cardinals. They were worried 111 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: about the Saints, they were worried about the New York Giants. 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: I believe those were the three teams they realized they 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: had to get in front of because those teams were 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: interested in Mahomes. And if you'll go back to I 115 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: believe that Monday before the draft, when I came in 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: and I said, here's the buzz from my source, the 117 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is moving up fast. Now. We weren't quite 118 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: sure because if you look at all the mock drafts, 119 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: everybody looked at him as a Brett Farve type player, 120 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: risk taker, not quite sure, he's disciplined, not a lot 121 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: of wins in college. You know, they played on an 122 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: average team. But Andy Reid, Saul something, and he went 123 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: and got his guy, not a quarterback, he got his guy. 124 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: And that's the key. It's the same thing when you 125 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: look at the Texans. They didn't go up to get 126 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback. They went up to get to Shawn Watson. 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: They move up, Kansas City takes Patrick Mahomes. Sean Payton's 128 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: been on the show and he said, we were taking 129 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and instead they're at eleven. They take Marshawn Lattimore. Now, 130 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: the Bills drafted Josh Allen with the seventh overall pick 131 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: the following year, that was their own pick. They traded 132 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: up a few spots with Hampa to get him from 133 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: twelve to seven, and then that sixteenth pick from the 134 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: Mahomes trade they got Tremaine Edmonds, who was a very 135 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: good player. We forget who did the Texans trade with 136 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: to get to Shawn Watson, right, because you're going, oh, 137 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: what are you going to give up? But when it 138 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: works out, you don't care. Kansas City it worked out, 139 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: Buffalo had worked out, but Kansas City had a good team. 140 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: But they were sort of stuck in that this might 141 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: be as good as we get. Alex Smith, very good quarterback, 142 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: but not Patrick Mahomes, you know, Detroit with Matthew Stafford. 143 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: You had gotten to the point where you said, this 144 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: is as good as it gets. And I was wondering 145 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: the number of teams right now, most important position in 146 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: all the sports, the number of teams in the NFL 147 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: that you can say they're sat fied with their quarterbacking situation. 148 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: I'll start with the Bills obviously, Ravens yes, Browns yes, 149 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: Bengals yes. I'm going to say, the Titans with Tannehill, yes, 150 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: they you know they signed him up to that long 151 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: term deal. The Chiefs with Mahomes, Chargers, the Vikings, I'm 152 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: going to say he's sort of with Kirk d Cousins, 153 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers one more year with Brady, and the Cardinals 154 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. That's it. That's ten teams. I can't 155 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: say Seattle is comfortable with the situation, and or Russell 156 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: Wilson is. The Texans with Deshaun Watson. They want him, 157 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: he doesn't want them. So that leaves twenty two teams 158 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: right now with a question mark at the quarterbacking position. Yeah. 159 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: Mcclub and Dan Bickley from Arizona said that the Cardinals 160 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: would gladly call for Deshaun Watson too. Even those the 161 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: ones you just listen are not Baker Mayfield. Are they 162 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: going to beshine him? Well, I know that it's a 163 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: stretch with Kyler, Murray and Bickley. You know, a columnist 164 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: radio host out there said, hey, if they got a chance, 165 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: they would bring into Shaun Watson. Okay, I mean I 166 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: get that from There's probably a few other teams on 167 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: the list that if I said to the Vikings, you 168 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: want to you know, Deshaun Watson, of course they do. Now, 169 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: then I could reduce that list of you know, teams 170 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: that have quarterbacks right now. If you said to the Browns, 171 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to Shaun Watson or Baker Mayfield, they're 172 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: taking to Shaun Watson. I don't know what they have 173 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: to pay for him, but yes, I mean it's an 174 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: upgrade there. And also there's a lot of talk about 175 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and the Seahawks. I don't know what is 176 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: new here. I know that Diana Rassini said that Seattle 177 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: is taking calls. They're not making calls, okay, until they 178 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: start making calls or responding because I can take a 179 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: phone call. Did I respond to the phone call. Hi, 180 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: we're not here. Leave a message if you'd like to 181 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: trade for Russell Wilson. Like, okay, you take phone calls. Nobody, 182 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: nobody's advanced this story anymore than what it was a 183 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. When Russ came on the show. 184 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: I saw yesterday where somebody was trying to say, oh, 185 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Seattle's upset. Russ went public. Yeah, he said, you know, 186 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: my source told me that the day after Russell Wilson 187 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: came on. So there's nothing new here. People are calling, 188 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: but really it's four teams. I mean, if you're the Vikings, 189 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: why would you call? He doesn't want to go there. 190 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: It's four team. If you're Carolina, why are you calling? 191 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: He don't want to go there, and why would he? 192 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Russ once legacy. Russ is chasing Brady Breeze, He's chasing 193 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, He's chasing Montana. He doesn't want to go 194 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: to a startup. He doesn't want to go to a team. Hey, 195 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: young team. I mean, it's silly to think he'd go 196 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, I want to go to Carolina because Matt 197 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: Rule is a young head coach and Christian McCaffrey First 198 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: of all, you'd probably have to give up Christian McCaffrey 199 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: to get Russell Wilson. He wants to go, and people 200 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: you know pointed out, well, why the Chicago Bears. Well, 201 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: for some reason, Russ likes Matt Naggie, their head coach, 202 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: and he likes the offensive line. Okay, if you have 203 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: a coach who will let you have a say, or 204 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: you like his offensive philosophy as opposed to Pete Carroll's. Okay, 205 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 1: got an offensive line, maybe they're going to protect me 206 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: a little more than Seattle's. Okay, I get it. But 207 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: Russ to me is not being traded. I think eventually 208 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: he'll be on another team, and it's probably going to 209 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: be maybe in two years, depending you know, if the 210 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: acrimony is real and it's serious. Remember when Aaron Rodgers 211 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: said what he said after the title game? Oh my god, 212 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: did you hear what Aaron Rodgers said? Has anybody said 213 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: anything about that since then? Kind of calmed down, didn't it? 214 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: The only thing we're talking about what Aaron Rodgers is 215 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: he got engaged. There's nothing about the Packers. But at 216 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: the time, oh my god, what's he saying? He's being 217 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: cryptic he's sending messages. Do I think Russell Wilson wants out? 218 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: I think he wants to be heard. I think, and 219 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: I was told this yesterday. Seattle looks at Russ differently 220 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: than they did before that Russ is bigger than the organization, 221 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: like he sees it as this is about my brand, 222 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: this is about business, this is about being a star. 223 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: And they see that as can we control that? And 224 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: the word I was told is it makes them nervous, 225 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: you know. I think that's the only thing. And that's 226 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: from us, not with the Seahawks, by the way, but 227 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: it's a source who's this is the same source who said, hey, 228 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: this relationship isn't sustainable. And that's where I think it's 229 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: interesting with Seattle, with Russell Wilson, Do I think they're 230 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: crazy if they move on from him? Yes, the cap hit. Plus, 231 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: he is Seattle, he's the he's the Seahawks. Nobody cares 232 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: about Seattle if Russell leaves. Oh, Dk Metcalf had a 233 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: nice play, great, Bobby Wagner made a great defensive stop. 234 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: They become a highlight team, not a team you watch 235 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: a game, you'll just tune in to go. Okay, what 236 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: happened with Tyler Lockett. Russ makes them relevant. They went 237 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: twelve and four, and I think what he's asking for 238 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: is his seat at the table. We've all been there 239 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: at Thanksgiving, where you have to sit at the little 240 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: table when you're growing up, and then you eventually get 241 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: to sit at the big table. I think Russ just 242 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: wants a seat just to be able to say, have 243 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: we thought about can we do this? And I think 244 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: as long as Pete Carroll was there, he and Russ 245 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: we are not going to be on the same page offensively, 246 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: because Pete's philosophy is not the same as Russell Wilson's 247 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: plain and simple. Yeah, point damn. We were all discussing 248 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: a while talking. We think you're absolutely right that part 249 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: of Russell's play is he's a brand. He wants to 250 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: expand that brand. He has a team around him, he 251 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: wants to be more of a national athlete. The Lions trade. 252 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: The Rams trade to the Lions was on January thirtieth. 253 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: I wonder if the Rams because that seems like a 254 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: franchise in a location that Russell Wilson would love to 255 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: be in. If they would have known it, he was 256 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: possibly available because he was on our show February ninth. 257 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: The trade happened with Matthew Stafford ten days earlier. I'm 258 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: just saying, can you imagine if a team like the 259 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Rams knew Russell Wilson was but you can't trade him 260 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: within the division? Can't for enough? You can't, can't. Yeah, nope, 261 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: unless you're sold that you know you can beat him. 262 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Because when Drew Bledsoe was sent to the Buffalo Bills 263 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: by the Patriots, Patriots didn't care they were going to 264 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: face him. Lawyer molloy signed with Buffalo after leaving New England. 265 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick wasn't concerned about those guys at all. But 266 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: when you trade within the division, you're really signaling that 267 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: that guy we're good, We're not too worried about him. 268 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: But if you said the Rams could have Russell Wilson 269 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: instead of Matthew Stafford, Hell yeah, and Russ and I'm 270 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: sure his wife would love that too. Yes, mcclub. The 271 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Eagles said, Donnie McNabb to the Redskins and like everywhere exacting, 272 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: but they knew, they knew it wasn't scary. Yes, he's 273 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: much much older. Let me go back to DeShawn Watson 274 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: this was the trade. So the Texans received a twenty 275 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: seventeen first round pick, number twelve overall, and they took 276 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson. They traded with the Browns. So once again, 277 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: if I said to you, who did the tech Since 278 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: trade with to get to Shawn Watson? Who did the 279 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs trade with to get Patrick Mahomes? You don't remember. 280 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: You might remember in those towns, in those cities, but nobody, 281 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: nobody goes, oh my god, now we know what happened 282 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: with the Bears in the forty nine ers. The Bears 283 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: traded up one spot with the Niners to get Mitchell Truebisky. 284 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: The Browns got a twenty seventeen first round pick. That 285 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: was Jabrill peppers twenty eighteen first round pick. Is that 286 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: a defensive player? Paulie Denzel Ward with the fourth pick 287 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: of the drum? Now he's good. Yeah, but you got 288 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: to Shawn Watson. When you get your guy, you can 289 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: get your guy, get your guy, yeah, mclovan den. The 290 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: Browns got Baker the following year, so you could say 291 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: it work out for them in a way. Yeah, I mean, okay, 292 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: And it wasn't a complete disass same with the Bills 293 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: and Josh Allenley you can get if you get the 294 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: guy next year, you're okay, I guess, but remember the 295 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: Browns pass on all these superstars for a long time. 296 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: I know. This program brought to you by built Bar. 297 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: Sixteen grams of protein, low calories, low carbs, taste, great taste, 298 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: Unbelievable's like a candy bar. Go to Builbar dot com 299 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: promo codp twenty twenty percent off your first order. Mclove 300 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: And what kind of poll question are you thinking about today? Okay, 301 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it to Paul Paps for our NFL 302 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: overtime poll question, NFL overtime? Do we want to get 303 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: to overtime? We haven't discussed overtime? Well, I think we 304 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: gotta get to it too. We got mister Overtime himself 305 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: coming on next. I know, But mister Overton, don't I 306 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: have Florio on? We talk overtime and then we get 307 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: to the poll question down. Sure. Yeah, that's the way 308 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: it works, because then, like I don't do it in 309 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: reverse order like a Tarantino movie, Just go and bose 310 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: mix it up. Do I start from the end and 311 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: work our way back. Travolta gets shot, but then he's 312 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: in a scene later Kill Bill. I never saw either 313 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: the was there two movies? Kill Bill? Kill Bill Time 314 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: one and Volume two? Yeah? Yeah, yeah see. But what 315 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: if the poll question is something that we absolutely need 316 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: Mike Florio to way in on. Okay, then we're gonna 317 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: go what you're gonna interview Mike Florio and then drop 318 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: the smoke and hot pole question and be like, oh crap, 319 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: we should have gotten Florio's take on this. This better 320 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: be a damn good poll question. Okay, Paul, all right, 321 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: so here's my idea for overtime. I'm calling it no overtime. 322 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: There's no overtime in the regular season for the NFL 323 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: games end, and they can end in a tie in 324 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: regular time. Now, while that may see people hate ties 325 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: in America, we hate ties, but think of the fourth 326 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: quarter of NFL games that are tied. You won't have 327 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: the luxury of overtime. The games be more tense, they'll 328 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: end on time players and if you want to sprinkle 329 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: in the health factor, they won't play more plays in 330 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: the regular season, but in the playoffs you go with 331 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: the normal overtime system. But during the regular season, no overtime. 332 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: I like no overtime. Yeah. I like the philosophy of 333 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: there is no overtime and how are you going to 334 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: play this game during the regulars? And ties would be 335 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: interesting from a strategic factor later in the season, when 336 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: you're a half game out instead of a whole game out. 337 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: It could make December more interesting. Possibly. I think we 338 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: overthink overtime. I gave this very little thought. To be fair. No, 339 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: that's okay that I understand. There's very little thought. But 340 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: that's our philosophy here. Yes, you sit by it, yes, yes, 341 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: and overtime I'm fine. But then we get to overtime 342 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and then how do you decide and 343 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: the coin toss and all. I just like sudden death. 344 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, if if you got to overtime, hey, all 345 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: bets are off. Man, it is a flip of the coin. Also, 346 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: we should run the numbers, and maybe we have. I 347 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: thought we did this a couple of years ago, that 348 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: we always think, hey, I want the ball, Hey overtime, 349 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: give me the ball first. I don't think the numbers 350 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: kind of prove that that is the best strategy, because 351 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: you get the ball first and you're gonna you can 352 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: score touchdown and win the game. Did we do those numbers? Yeah, 353 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: they're very interesting numbers because in the regular season, getting 354 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: the ball like at your own twenty five yard line, 355 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: you basically have about a twenty two percent chance of 356 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: driving down for a touchdown. It's completely debunked in the 357 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: plot bunks, but debunked in the playoffs. Nobody bunks. No, 358 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: nobody bunks, although I did with my brother in ten 359 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: playoff games that have gone to overtime since the new 360 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: system is in place in twenty eleven, of the ten 361 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: teams who got the ball first, six of them received 362 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: the kickoff and scored on the opening drive. So sixty 363 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: percent of the teams that got the ball first went 364 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: the length of the field oddly. Okay, all right, I'll 365 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: shut up and we'll settle on that poll question. And boy, 366 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: it's a good one. No overtime. I will talk to 367 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: Mike Florio, will interrupt his day to ask him some questions. 368 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: And also if he thinks there's anything else going on 369 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson Junior, the third, also Zac Prescott and 370 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, anything else in there that we may have 371 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: forgotten about. We'll talk Florial about your phone calls. Eight 372 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: seven seven three d P Show email addressdp a dan 373 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: Patrick dot Com Twitter handle at dp show. Say good 374 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: morning to Peacock, our TV partner and our radio partners 375 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: as well, numbering nearly four hundred cities around America. 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Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 388 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 389 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 390 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 391 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey 392 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: what's up, everybody, It's me Three time pro bowler Levarrington 393 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new 394 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: podcast called up on Game. What is a fun game? 395 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: You asked, along with my fellow pro bowler t J. 396 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: Hushman's outa and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right, Plexico Birds, 397 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: you can only name a show with that type of 398 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: talent on it. Up on Game We're going to be 399 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen 400 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: to up on Game with me LeVar Arrington, t J. 401 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: Hudshmans Otta, and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 402 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts from. We were curious 403 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: the number of NFL playoff games that have gone into overtime. 404 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: Since nineteen eighty, seven point three percent of playoff games 405 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: have gone into overtime. We are proposing no overtime, no 406 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: overtime during the regular season. We'll see if florial will 407 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: write up a little blurb on us that the Dan 408 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Show is suggesting no overtime, no overtime. We'll find 409 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: out what the strategy would look like with these teams 410 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: if there's no overtime there, and then the postseason we 411 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: could have overtime. I didn't realize that these things were 412 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: on the docket, just proposals. Here roughing the passer. It 413 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: feels like they always trying to sneak sneak it by 414 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: the goalie here, I don't know. At the owner's meeting, 415 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: like nobody's looking, they go, oh, everybody's out, let's vote 416 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: all in favor and it passes. Let's bring in Mike 417 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: Florial Pro Football Talk Live co host Mike, we are 418 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: proposing no overtime during the regular season. What do you think, 419 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: old school pre nineteen seventy four, that's how it used 420 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: to be ties. Do you like ties? I don't like ties. 421 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: I guess it's on the two teams involved to make 422 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: sure there isn't a tie. And with so much more 423 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: scoring now and the two point conversion, it's easier to 424 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: avoid a tie than it would have been back in 425 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: the early seventies and prior to that. And Dan, you're 426 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: onto something in this respect. I believe that this push 427 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: to go back to true sudden death overtime with this 428 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: spot and shoes concept, which I actually am intrigued by. Okay, 429 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: explain that though Mike, Okay, so this is just proposed 430 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: a new overtime possibility, a new overtime possibility proposed by 431 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 1: the Ravens. There's two types. There's a sudden death and 432 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: there's a straight seven and a half minutes. I'm told 433 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick prefers that seven and a half minutes of football. 434 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: Whatever the score is at the end, that's the final score. 435 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: When loser draw spot and shoes means, in lieu of 436 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: a coin flip, to determine first possession, one team picks 437 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: where the first drive begins, for example, our own twenty 438 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: yard line the minus twenty as the football people call it, 439 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: your own twenty yard line. One team picks the spot, 440 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: and the other team says whether they're going to take 441 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: the ball and play offense or give the other team 442 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: the ball and play defense. It's as equitable as it 443 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: can be. It's as fair as it can be. It 444 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: reminds me of the old Sesame Street sketch where you know, 445 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: you share a cookie by one person breaks it in 446 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: half and the other one chooses which half they want. 447 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: Totally fair, and I think it adds layers and levels 448 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: of strategy that will probably drive coaches and analytics departments crazy, 449 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: But it's so much better if you're going to go 450 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: back to true sudden death. It's so much better than 451 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: the coin flip. Now, the two ways the Ravens are 452 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: proposing it sudden death with up to ten minutes or 453 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: this Belichick preferred seven and a half minutes, play that 454 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: full amount, and whoever's ahead at the end wins, which 455 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: which creates, I think an additional strategic angle. If you've 456 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: only got seven and a half minute, you want to 457 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: make sure that you have enough time to do something 458 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: with the ball when you get it back. So it's 459 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: just layers and levels of strategy that I think would 460 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: drive coaches crazy. But I think it would be fair 461 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: to both teams. Could I have you start on the 462 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: one yard line? Well, you could pick the one yard line, 463 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: but then then the other team gets to choose whether 464 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: to be offense or defense. That's the beauty of it. Okay, okay, 465 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: And I'm told Dan that the analytics people are viewing 466 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: the thirteen the minus thirteen as the break even point. 467 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: That if the team that picks the yard position says 468 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: twelve or less, then that's when you're likely to choose 469 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: to play defense. Fourteen or more, you're likely to choose 470 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: offense in the standard case. But think about it. Your quarterback, 471 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: how you feel about your defense, how you feel about 472 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: whatever players you have left in your game plan for 473 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: the day, how you feel about your kicker, what the 474 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: weather conditions are. So many things are going to go 475 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: into that decision. Are they voting on this? I know 476 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: it's just a proposal. Does it get put up for vote? Well, 477 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: they're presenting it to the Competition Committee to try to 478 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: get them on board with it. It has more heft, 479 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: has more weight if the Competition Committee is behind it. 480 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: But the most important person to have behind it is 481 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: the commissioner. And my understanding is the commissioner likes it 482 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: because number one, it makes the game shorter. And this 483 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: gets back to the point you're making with no overtime. 484 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: I think they want the games to be shorter. Dan, 485 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: not for this year, but I think it's some year 486 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: down the road, four or five, six, whenever. They're going 487 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: to start dropping games into more standalone windows. And this 488 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday night football that we saw a couple of times 489 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: this year, Wednesday afternoon at three o'clock, they're going to 490 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: get creative about having more standalone games because is gambling 491 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: proliferates and as real time in game betting becomes technologically 492 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: available where you can sit at home with your phone 493 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: and what you see at the stage him is what's 494 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: coming into your home at that moment, so there's no latency. 495 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: It makes more sense to have not nine games being 496 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: played at once, as many games as possible that are 497 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: the only game where everyone's watching, everyone's engaged, and everyone's 498 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: betting one play at a time on those games. So 499 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: you make the game shorter. Here's why you make the 500 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: game shorter, because you're gonna have teams that are playing 501 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: on a five day break, four day break, six day break. 502 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: You can't be playing for seventy minutes. So I think 503 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: that's why they want to make the game shorter. So 504 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: your idea from that perspective is brilliant, Thank you. Because 505 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: every game is captained sixty minutes. Could you propose that 506 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't I don't have the commissioner's year. Could you 507 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: you think I do? Oh you don't either, No, no, 508 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: but but but but I'm sure he would not turn 509 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: up his nose at a good idea. I just think 510 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: that that the idea of going back to tie, we 511 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: just have to we'd have to accept ties, and but 512 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: strategy of a tie in the fourth quarter. I can 513 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: imagine that. Now it changes your philosophy of what you're 514 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: doing instead of how many times, well, they're playing for overtime. 515 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: Now you can't play for overtime. Nobody's taken a knee. 516 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: Now you actually are saying, are we comfortable with a 517 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: tie against this team, or do we want to go 518 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: for a win or you know, go for one versus 519 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: go for two. When overtime was the rule pre seventy four, 520 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: you didn't have that option that that See, that's the 521 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: beauty of it, I think. And then here's where I 522 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: think they're onto something. The way the game is today, 523 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: I think that there would be fewer ties and that 524 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: and that, you know, with all the analytics and the 525 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: and the strategy and going for two and all the 526 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: different things you can do. I just think that you 527 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: would see less just kind of shrugging. I think they 528 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: just used to shrug at a tie. Yeah it's a tie, Okay, 529 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: we'll get them next week. I think it would be 530 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: far different if that were the case. Now. All right, 531 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: a couple of things. I know we're sure on time, 532 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: the roughing, the passer reviewable that's being proposed correct, Yes, 533 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: And I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. 534 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: The reason I don't like it is twenty nineteen pass 535 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: interference replay review calls and non calls, the standard kept changing. 536 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: You can watch the available angles and you can see 537 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: a glancing blow and if it's framed by frame, is 538 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: that forcible contact with the head of the quarterback? I 539 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: don't like it. And thinking about it, Dan, every interception, 540 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: what's going to be part of the replay review? Hey, 541 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: was there contact with the quarterback? Was it possibly roughing 542 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: the passer? I like the concept, but I don't like 543 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: the execution that it likely would entail because we saw 544 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: it two years ago and what a disaster pass interference was. 545 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: I continue to be a believer and the Ravens are 546 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: proposing this as well. The booth umpire, the extra member 547 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: of the crew who sees what we see at home 548 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: and can talk directly to the referee and say drop 549 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: a flag. Pick up a flag. You guys are making 550 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: a mistake, no different than another member of the crew 551 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: who runs up and talks to the referee and they 552 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: pick up a flag. That's what they need, and they've 553 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: been reluctant to do it. But I think that's the 554 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: key because what you see when you're on the field 555 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: and what you see at home are two very different things. 556 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: They need a referee, an official who sees what we 557 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: see at home and can talk to the people on 558 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: the field. Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host, 559 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: of course, is a website, Pro football Talk dot Com. 560 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: The fumbling the ball out of the end zone. Clark Hunt, 561 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: the owner of the Chiefs, the team that benefited from 562 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: that rule in the division around of the playoffs, suggested 563 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl that that rule would be looked 564 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: at by the Competition Committee. There's no proposal yet on 565 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: that rule, and Dan I just don't think they're going 566 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: to change it. It's always been there. You know, Once 567 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: upon a time the rule was if you threw an 568 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: incomplete pass into the end zone and it hit the turf, 569 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: it was a touchback and the defense got the ball 570 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: at its own twenty. There's just been this sacred treatment 571 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 1: of the end zone, and that's where this comes from. 572 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: Is unfair as it is, here's the reality. It's fair 573 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: in that it affects both teams equally, and you know, 574 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: it may screw you in one game and you made 575 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: benefit from it another game. The thing I don't like 576 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: about it though. It penalizes effort, and you see a 577 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: guy making maximum effort to reach the ball out to 578 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: the pylon, and if the ball slips out of his 579 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: hands and just goes out of the end zone one 580 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: inch in, you lose the ball. If it goes out 581 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: short of the end zone, buy an inch, you keep 582 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: the ball. If it hits that pylon, you lose the ball. 583 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: That's what I don't like about it. How about we 584 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: extend the end zone like CFL. Yeah, that would that 585 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: would make well, you know we'd have to do. You 586 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: have to go back and rebuild half the state team, 587 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't you. Yeah, that would be the problem. I'm all in. 588 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm going with that too, Like healthy economy, yet create 589 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: some jobs there? Anything new? Let me. Roethlisberger resigning it 590 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: felt like he had to fall on his own sword. 591 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: Do take less to stay there? But uh, you your 592 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: thoughts when Roethlisberg announced he was coming back. General business 593 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: advice for anyone out there who's ever negotiating a salary 594 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: with his or her employer. Once you say I don't 595 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: care how much I paid this year, you can't take 596 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: that back, Dan, And once he said that he's not 597 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: getting nineteen million this year. The question is what's he 598 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: getting And that's why I took so long. If he's 599 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: getting nineteen million this year, it's a half hour negotiation 600 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: to figure out how they're going to move the money 601 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: around and reduce his cap number. Once he said that 602 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: he's getting squeezed, and I'm surprised he only got squeezed 603 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: for five million dollars, so it gives him some cap space. 604 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: I just I think they're delusional in thinking that they've 605 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: got a championship team. This isn't two thousand and five. 606 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: Jerome Bettis, Let's come back for one more run and 607 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: go win a Super Bowl. There are some great teams 608 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: in the AFC, And yeah, they were eleven another last year. 609 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Eight of those games could have gone either way. I 610 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: also wondered about Tushaun Watson, the timing of when if 611 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: you're going to trade him, when do you trade him? 612 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, I I just have a 613 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: four sales sign or you know, like a yard sale 614 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: and just say come on in and give me your 615 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: offers like Detroit did. But I'm wondering, is he more 616 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: likely to get traded closer to the draft, does that 617 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: make more sense. But I don't even know if we're 618 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: there yet. But what do you think about if he 619 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: is traded, what the timing would be for that, Dan, 620 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: I think with all these teams that are looking for 621 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: quarterbacks evaluating their options, the problem is if you wait 622 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: until the draft to trade Deshaun Watson, there are teams 623 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: that will have made other plans at quarterback and then 624 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: they're not at the table, and that could be a 625 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: team that helps drive another team up to a higher price. 626 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: You know, John McClean and the Houston Chronicle echoed something 627 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: that we had said a few weeks ago. They should 628 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: get the Jets and the Dolphins in a bidding war. 629 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: Do it now, and hey, if you don't trade for him, 630 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with him twice per year 631 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: and play them against each other. You know. Russell Wilson's 632 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: agent very artfully got it out there the four teams 633 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: that he'd be willing to accept a trade too. At 634 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: some point, the Texans need to find out where are 635 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: the places Deshaun Watson would play. Let's get those teams 636 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: at the table and let But the first they have 637 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: to come to the conclusion that they're even going to 638 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: do it. I feel like at this point they are 639 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: in the I don't know, anger denial, bargaining, depression, acceptance. 640 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: They're probably still in the denial phase, and they just refuse, 641 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: they refuse to accept the fact that this guy is 642 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: never going to play for them again. And Dan, have 643 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: you seen or heard anything that contradicts the prevailing notion 644 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: that he's never putting that blue helmet on his head again? No, 645 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: And that's why I didn't understand why they just didn't say, 646 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: come on, in compete against each other and hopefully we'll 647 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: get an even bigger treasure trove here the Russell will 648 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: That doesn't feel like there's any real news on the 649 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson front. We're trying to make news, you know. 650 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: I guess his agent said or somebody said, this is 651 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: the reason why he likes the Bears. That doesn't mean 652 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: he's getting traded because he liked Matt Naggie in the 653 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: offensive line here. But I haven't heard anything more internally 654 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: about this situation. So did Russ accomplish what he wanted 655 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: to accomplish when he came on our show? Well, well, 656 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: and let's think about the timeline. The stuff he said 657 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: on your show was jar and I've never heard a 658 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 1: quarterback talk that candidly about his situation. I think Tom 659 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: Brady's to blame or credit for all of that, because 660 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: these guys see what happened with Brady, they want to 661 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: flex their muscles. That was great, but then it got 662 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: quiet for a couple of weeks, so you kind of 663 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: start thinking, well, maybe they've worked things out. Well. Then 664 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: comes the Athletic article that pulls some scabs off of 665 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: the situation, and Mark Rogers says what he says on 666 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: the record, which was as jarring as the comments Russell 667 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: Wilson made. And now it's quiet again. Just because it's 668 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: quiet doesn't mean nothing's happening. I mean Seahawks have to 669 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: be considering their options. And the four teams are identified 670 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: by Rogers Raiders, Bears, Saints, Cowboys. How do you not, 671 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: at a minimum, get all the decision makers together and 672 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: say what would we be willing to do here? And 673 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: I've said this about the Saints, Dan, when you look 674 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,959 Speaker 1: at the cap mess that they're in and the guys 675 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: that they're going to have to part ways with, how 676 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: do you not call the Seahawks and say, just tell 677 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: us who you want, because there's a chance they want 678 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: some guys that you're going to cut anyway, or maybe 679 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: they want a guy that you're on the fence about 680 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: so you can trade him and keep one of the 681 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: guys that you're thinking about cutting. So I just think 682 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: that that Russell Wilson is good enough that those four 683 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: teams need to at least at least explore it, even 684 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: if it means calling up the Seahawks and saying, tell 685 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: us what you want, and we'll see if we can 686 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: come close to it. Because Russ can't have his feelings 687 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: hurt if you reach out to the Saints, whereas Deshaun Watson, 688 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's different or some of these other 689 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: teams where they reach out and you go, oh gosh, 690 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: don't let him find out that you reach out. Russ's 691 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: people will probably go, Okay, you have to do your 692 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: due diligence. If I'm settle, I just find out, Like 693 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 1: I just want to know. If it gets worse, then 694 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: at least I know, Hey, you know what the Saints 695 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: will give us this? Hey, you know what the Bears 696 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: will give us is this. Put those two. Pick those 697 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: two against each other, and let's see what we have here. 698 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: Here's what it comes down to, and this was my 699 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: takeaway after reading the item in The Athletic Russell Wilson 700 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: views himself as Patrick Mahomes, and he has every right 701 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: to view that. We haven't seen him in a situation 702 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: where he is of Patrick Mahomes, where the offense runs 703 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: through him and it's orchestrated to get the most out 704 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: of his abilities. That's what he wants. If the Seahawks 705 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: don't view Russell Wilson the way Russell Wilson views Russell Wilson, 706 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: then trade him to a team that does, because necessarily 707 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: whatever that team offers will reflect what they think of 708 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and the Seahawks will look at it and say, 709 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: these bastards are crazy. Why are they offering this for 710 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: this guy. Let's take it, take it and run. I 711 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: have a great way, Ken Mike always great to talk 712 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: to you, buddy. Thank you, Thanks, Dan, saw Mike Florio, 713 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk, Take a break, Play of the Day next. 714 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 715 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 716 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 717 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 718 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Oh 719 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: My God. Play of the Day, God Play is the 720 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: play on the day. Check this out. Here come the Bucks, 721 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: no time out Holiday. Five seconds to go, Drew fades 722 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: the Jumper God two seconds to go, one twelve, one 723 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: eleven Bucks Radio Bucks Radio Network Play of the Day. 724 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: The Bucks are seventeen and nine. In games that Drew 725 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: Holliday has played when he's out of the lineup, they're 726 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: just five and five. Play of the Day brought to 727 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: you by M Drive, the supplement I take every day. 728 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: M drive power from ingredients back by science. Help me 729 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: get energized, stronger, leaner. Go to M drive dan dot 730 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 1: com today, get free shipping, sixty day money back guarantee. 731 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: Don't let age beat you. rEFInd your prime with M drive. 732 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: Give a shout out to the Mets pitcher Noah Syndergard. 733 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: Send a picture that he's watching the show. We appreciate that, Noah. 734 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: I hope your recovery is good and look forward to 735 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: having you on again. We had him in the New 736 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: York City man Kick and Thor came in. Had a 737 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Big dude man bringing some cheese. Yeah, 738 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: I was looking at Syndergard stats and in twenty eighteen 739 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: he had a good season. He's thirteen and four. He 740 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: led Now, this is twenty eighteen, one hundred and sixty 741 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: two games season. Noah Syndergard led the league in complete 742 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: games for a pitcher. You know, can you guess how 743 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: many complete games he had as a pitcher? Six two 744 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: and that led the entire Major League Baseball two in 745 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: a year. Whoa stat of the day, best stat of 746 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: the day, stat of good day? You know what? What 747 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: stat historian is going to look at this era of 748 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: starting pitchers twenty years thirty years from now and go, 749 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: what what was that was that? The soft era? Like? 750 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: How many complete games did you have? It's just baseball 751 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: has changed. It's throw hard for as long as you can. 752 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: That's all you gotta do. Yeah, McLevin. Remember also he 753 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: was in Game of Thrones right before when he came 754 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: in last time, and I have a picture of him 755 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: cutting off my head that I would take a lot 756 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: of pride in. I have a career salary game that 757 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: is going to shock you. I don't know if I 758 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: if I do it right now or do I wait 759 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: for the top of the hour, Let's do career salary. 760 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: Time to play career salary. Here's your host, Paulie Dan. 761 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has played twenty one years of football one 762 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: like I think seventeen super Bowl. Ben Roethlisberger has played 763 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: seventeen years of football for fewer seasons. Right, who made 764 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: more money? Twenty one seventeen four? Okay, well, I know 765 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: that's why I said it's a shocker Ben. But if 766 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: I did, if you didn't have a hint, wouldn't you 767 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: think that Brady would have after four or five super 768 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: Bowls would have got maxed out? Did I spoil that 769 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: by knowing the answer? There are a little bit? Okay, Okay, 770 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: it's not that good of a segment. Okay, No, it is. 771 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger in seventeen seasons has made one million dollars 772 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: more than Tom Brady has in his twenty one seasons. 773 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixty two million for Ben Roethlisberger and 774 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: coming back this year now, is that going to be 775 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 1: the case though? Dudn't Tom. It's going to change quickly. 776 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: We had to get that stat in today. Yeah it 777 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: works today, absolutely, But yeah, Ben didn't really have a choice. 778 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: I don't think in his salary, like I'm going, hey, 779 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: money doesn't matter. Don't say that unless money is not 780 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: going to matter to you. Yes, it'd be awesome if 781 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: he went into that negotiation was like, yeah, it's like 782 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty two mil, but not as much 783 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: after tax. So I love that they're like two hundred 784 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: million dollars half of that after Texas. Remember that was 785 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson. When it goes, oh they taxed me so much, 786 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: maybe I should just quit playing golf, and I go 787 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: then you get zero, Like that doesn't make any sense. 788 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk some NBA coming up. Phone calls 789 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: are welcome back after this and The Dan Patrick Show 790 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: close out first hour with zip Recruiter. When it comes 791 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: to hiring for your business, there's one solution that's been 792 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: advancing its technology for years. That's zip recruiter, and you 793 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: need to do that, certainly with what's going on in 794 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: the world the last year. Try it for free at 795 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: zip recruiter dot com. 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