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Speaker 2: And it is a pleasure to be with you today. Big,

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Speaker 2: It is a pleasure to be able to spend time

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Speaker 2: with you here today. So President elect Donald Trump endorsed

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Speaker 2: wind for eleven days. That's the write up over at

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Speaker 2: by Bradley Jay. Over at bright Bark, Trump posted a

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty two word soliloquy on truth social

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Speaker 2: touting his elector and attacking Democrats for weaponizing the government

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Speaker 2: using what this has described as a boilerplate endorsement quote,

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Speaker 2: let's not blow this great opportunity which we have been given.

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Speaker 2: The American people need immediate, all caps relief from all

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Speaker 2: the destructive policies in the last administration. Speaker Mike Johnson

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Speaker 2: is a good, hard working religious man. He will do

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Speaker 2: the right thing and we will continue to win. Mike

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Speaker 2: So you know, you've had this scurrying back and forth

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Speaker 2: My name is Brett Witterable. It's a pleasure to be

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Speaker 4: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim

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Speaker 2: It's great to be with you guys today on this

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to Ronnie and Florida. First up, Ronnie,

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me. It's a great day

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Speaker 6: My concern is about the pardon of Hunter add in tonight.

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Speaker 6: Nothing's going to happen, right and all of these commutations

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Speaker 2: Well, here here's the thing. I think Robert Hurr certainly

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Speaker 7: earning a's in school. I believe it is a major

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Speaker 7: propaganda plank of the radical left as they pandered to

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Speaker 7: the gullible. That's a large part of their power base.

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Speaker 7: That's how we got DEI. I'm just looking forward in

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Speaker 7: twenty two days to restore the American dream and have

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Speaker 7: Americans seeing the glasses half full again.

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Speaker 2: That's right. And do you know what the main problem

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Speaker 2: is why these people get so angry and fear excellence

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Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. Do you know what

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Speaker 2: it is that it ultimately comes down to. It comes

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Speaker 2: down to self doubt. They are fearful to take the chance,

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Speaker 2: they are fearful to pick up the banner and lead.

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Speaker 2: So what they'll just do is attack everybody else who

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Speaker 2: is out there doing well. It's not a normal reality

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Speaker 2: to have everybody angry at anybody who is successful. My gosh,

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Speaker 2: that that that's a terrible way to live. That's a

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Speaker 2: that's a gangster mentality. And that is the that's the

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Speaker 2: fundamental problem. They have self doubt, right, They're they're afraid

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Speaker 2: they'll get wrong. They're they're afraid they're you know, they're

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Speaker 2: they're not good enough, imposter syndrome, all that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 2: fear of failure, perfectionism, whatever it is. That is the

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Speaker 2: thing that holds people back more than anything, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's just horrible, Mike.

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Speaker 7: Well, it is, and they're incapable of independent thought. And

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Speaker 7: as an educator, I do know a large part of

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Speaker 7: IQ tests involves being able to sink on your own

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Speaker 7: and not just be a blind follower.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Great stuff, Mike, Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for being out there, and have a wonderful uh new

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Speaker 2: year coming coming down the pike. Here, let's talk to

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Speaker 2: Douglas in Pennsylvania. Douglas, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 8: Hi, Brett, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 8: I just like to comment and a few of the

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Speaker 8: things I remember living through the Carter administration. Sure one

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Speaker 8: was waiting in line for long gas lines.

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Speaker 7: When we had the.

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Speaker 8: Gas shortage, we had drive fifty five, we had our

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Speaker 8: speed limit reduced. And then I remember the yellow ribbons

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Speaker 8: everywhere because Bruce Langdon, who was the ambassador in Iran,

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Speaker 8: he lived three doors for me, so our neighborhood was

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Speaker 8: covered with yek ribbons.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 8: And I remember the interest rates were just through the roof.

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Speaker 8: And I can only say that I was very glad

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Speaker 8: to see Ronald Wegg and come back, you know, come

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Speaker 8: and be the president in nineteen eighty you.

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Speaker 2: Know what else, you know what else we always forget

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Speaker 2: about too. We had the moment in time where we

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Speaker 2: could have done great things when it came to energy,

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Speaker 2: and you had the China Syndrome movie come out, and

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Speaker 2: suddenly you can't have any nuclear react no nukes, no nukes,

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Speaker 2: no nuclear reactors. You can't get affordable clean energy. We're

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Speaker 2: not going to do that. That was one of the

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Speaker 2: other ugly ones that I remember from Three Mile Island.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think Carter was a very good man. I really

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Speaker 8: could admire what he did after his presidency, but I

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Speaker 8: think he was a fairly impotent and a week president

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Speaker 8: who was unable to do what he needed to do

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Speaker 8: in that timeframe. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. Great great stuff there, Douglas. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you reaching out from the Keystone State. Thanks so much,

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Speaker 2: and look forward to speaking with you again. Let's go

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Speaker 2: to Bill in Wisconsin. Bill, welcome to the show. Heh okay,

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Speaker 2: hear me, Yes, sir, you sound great.

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Speaker 9: Oh all right, how you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Thank you very much.

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Speaker 9: Okay, So I talked to your screen caller hopefully I

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Speaker 9: can express this in an intelligent way. I like Trump

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Speaker 9: and Elon Musk and Levage because I think this country

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Speaker 9: should be run, you know, on a business type mentality,

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Speaker 9: which I think what happens. What happened is there's way

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Speaker 9: too much emotion involved in the decision making. And that

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Speaker 9: to me, you know, as a business I mean, I'm

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Speaker 9: fifty five years old. I'm not you know, I haven't

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Speaker 9: been around that long. But I just I just think

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Speaker 9: that people are acting and reacting on emotion rather than

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Speaker 9: on you know, if you're a business owner, you have

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Speaker 9: to make tough decisions, you know, and people get you know,

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Speaker 9: can I say screwed on the air?

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Speaker 2: Well, you just did go ahead.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes, you know, I mean, and that's just the way

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Speaker 10: it is. Sometimes you make it, sometimes you don't, right, Okay,

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Speaker 10: let me yeah, no, no, no, it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: It makes that's what you're saying. I appreciate the call. Bill.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing I would say about that, though. All Right,

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Speaker 2: everybody is risking something in some way. All Right, you

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Speaker 2: vote for the wrong guy or the wrong gal, you

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Speaker 2: throw in with the wrong investment firm or any of

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Right, there is no guarantee because

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Speaker 2: humans are running the show, and humans are flawed people.

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Speaker 2: They're not perfect people. Now, to go back to the point,

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Speaker 2: I would say, listen, I respect people who try and fail.

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Speaker 2: Look at Elon Musk. Nothing he's done has been guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: He's effectively a self made person, and he gets a

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Speaker 2: lot of he gets a lot of people going after him.

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Speaker 2: So what has he done? He's created Tesla, he's got

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Speaker 2: the Boring Company, he's got rockets going up, he's got

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Speaker 2: all this stuff happening. And then you look at a

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Speaker 2: hearing pick, a hearing pick, any congress person, could be

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Speaker 2: a could be a lefty, could be somebody else. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna come in there and they're gonna drill them, and

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Speaker 2: they're gonna say to him, listen, you're no good, you're terrible,

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Speaker 2: you're awful. And he's gonna look at him and go, well,

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Speaker 2: that's your opinion. But what have you done, Congressman so

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Speaker 2: and so? What have you done? What have you pulled off?

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Speaker 2: What have you accomplished? What are you proud of? Then

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Speaker 2: it gets difficult, Then it gets difficult. All right, coming

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Speaker 2: up in just a couple of moments, we've got Scott

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Speaker 2: McEwan coming by. We'll be taking your phone calls as well.

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Speaker 2: That is our number one. Done, we got more straight ahead.

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Speaker 2: I am Brettwoitable. You're listening to The clay Buck Show

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Speaker 2: back after this