1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the Apple Stairs Podcast. It's 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Ben and Ashley and today we are so excited to 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: have one of the very favorite people from the Golden 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: Bachelorette on. We didn't have him on during the season 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: and now we are wondering why he's not in Paradise. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Charles Lang. Hi, turn it out 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: to thank you. 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: Thank you. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Charles, why are you here with us? You should 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: be in Paradise. 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's a kind of a decision between 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 3: me and the Sophia, my daughter self form what I 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: have reason. Yeah, maybe maybe another program in the future. 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's kick it off there, let's talk about Paradise. 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 5: You, Ashley said, you're one of the favorites from the 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 5: Golden I would actually consider you, and I think Ashley 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 5: Wood as well, one of the favorites of all time 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 5: from any show ever. 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: I think people thank you could not enough of you. 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 5: Now, you just mentioned that the decision to not be 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 5: in Paradise was a decision between yourself and your daughter. 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: Yet your daughters were very supportive of you going on 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: the Golden Show. 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so what's changed because your experience there was so positive. 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: This is this is just personal choice. I hate to 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: say why. This is the beach and we both think, 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: you know, we look much better and more handsome. I'm 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: prettier in formal dresses, okay, rather than like the youngsters, 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: you know, they have fun and kind a little bit 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 3: while at the beach. 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that makes sense. Now. When we first 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: heard that you weren't amongst the rumor to be in Paradise, 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: I thought, oh, well, maybe he's going to be the bachelor. 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be the Golden Bachelor, because, 37 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: like we said, no one has been so endearing. But 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: but you're not the bachelor either. Were you in talks 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: to be. 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: Not really to not to my knowledge. 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Not your knowledge, so that your name may have been 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: thrown around the producer rooms. 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, as you know during almost that when we 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: were wrapping up last year, there are a lot of 45 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: requests and the cheers, you know, quote unquote hope you 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: know Charles will be one of the few to be 47 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: the final candidates for the new program. But this is 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: what it is. I think there are reasons probably we 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: need to pick another young handsome man. 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: You know, well they could have picked you. 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 5: You fall into that category, young and handsome Charles. This 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 5: experience for you obviously was unexpected because this show didn't 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 5: exist a few years ago. Right now that it's done, 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: you are removed. It's been a bit since the show 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: has aired. Looking back, what are your emotions and thoughts 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 5: on the whole experience. 57 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: Well, I would say one word, if I can summarize, 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: is amazing and or a little bit beyond my expectation. 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: In other words, the show was much better on my part. 60 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: As you probably heard during the program or after the program. 61 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 3: I was very ignorant about that program before I started. 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: So sometimes when you don't know anything, you really bring 63 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: yourself to the full level to the program. And recently 64 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: at a birthday party in our gym, they remind me 65 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: to give a talk on this, you know, and I 66 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: told them, you know one thing. They thought, we have scripts, 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: you know, Charles doesn't have to think, just read or memorize. 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: I said, now that's not the case. The beauty pot 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: is spontaneous, you know, and also surprises because so we 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: didn't know what question will be what program either you know, 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: one on one or group date and any other activities 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: around mentioning or of the mention we will not do 73 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: at all in advance, so it's just ready come out 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: as you are not prepared it yet. You know. I 75 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: think maybe there's the beauty. The audience loved it, you know, 76 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: and sometimes when I look at it back, I'm a 77 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: little bit of shocked what I said at this at 78 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: that particular moment. If you ask me to repeat, I 79 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: doubt I would be able to do that. Honestly, that's 80 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: really really beauty. 81 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the feelings that you get inside the bachelor 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: bubble when love is the only thing you can concentrate 83 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: on exactly. 84 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: You know, the one of the episodes just give you example, 85 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: the men tell all. I think that episode and I 86 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: just came back in the return from the trip. I 87 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: was worried. But one is the you know, the I'm 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: different zones. Two is I might be tied thirties. I 89 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: didn't speak that much English in a sense, you know, 90 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: in the previous two or three months, so I was worried. 91 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: Yet you know, at the end of the show, my 92 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: daughter Sofya came to me Dad, you know, wonderful, wonderful. 93 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: You didn't see anything any word more or less just perfect. 94 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: I was flattered and I was very happy. 95 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the best compliment from the best person that 96 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 5: could give you that compliment. Right, So talk about Sophia 97 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 5: for a second. Was she a fan of the show 98 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 5: going into your season or she know much about it? 99 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: Well, she knew. She knew a little bit more than 100 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: I did, and she wasn't nervous, to be honest, at 101 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: the very beginning, and she was nervous while I was 102 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: over there. Later on, she joked with me and said, Dad, 103 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: guess what. My sister and I we thought you might 104 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: send home during or after the first row ceremony. We 105 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: didn't tell you because you might change your mind. I said, 106 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: oh boy, had you told me this, I'm not sure 107 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: if I were to go or not. So that's a 108 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: good part, you know, when you don't know anything, you 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: really perform as it is and not nervous at all, 110 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: and just just you know, be myself. Yeah, it was great, 111 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: and talking about that. You know, even as of today, 112 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: I still bump into so many fans and a surprise. 113 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 3: One day, I joke with a lady in the store, 114 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: I said, after many months, how come you stirban me? 115 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: Of course, Charles, you know you were a favorite, and 116 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: so on and so forth. Yeah, and this this morning, 117 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: I was at the at the Cafeteriri and the young 118 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: man who served me a company, he said, Charles, you know, 119 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: my my parents loved you on the show. Guess what said? 120 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: And I told them that Charles came to our shop. 121 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: They were so happy, so I sent my best regards 122 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: to them too. 123 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, Charles, we know that you were born and raised 124 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 6: in rural China and you came to the US with 125 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 6: twenty dollars in your pocket. 126 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Can you tell us a little bit about this story. 127 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you know, probably historically when we talk about 128 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: a rich country versus pole country, you know, and in 129 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: those days, you know, China was not really open to 130 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: the outside and the people just collected very very basic 131 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: accelary in local currency. And when we, for myself was 132 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: accepted by one of the universities with scholarship, yet you know, 133 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: there was no stipend. So quite a few of us 134 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: who were able to come to study in the States 135 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: either twenty dollars or forty dollars, probably not more than that. 136 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: And was I nervous, of course, yes, you know, your 137 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: twenty dollars. But on the other hand, in those days, 138 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: twenty dollars you can do a very lot of things, 139 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: you know, with twenty dollars here it's unfortunately there's only 140 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: a couple of coffin now today, you know. But yeah, 141 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: with twenty dollars in pocket and studied my education and 142 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 3: then you know, you find some work here and there, 143 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: and as you know, the environment, well, you know, you 144 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 3: are managed. You know, human beings say, you know, very 145 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: very powerful in a sense, like a sponge, you know 146 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: in the river. You really can explode at a certain 147 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: level when you are pushed to a certain degree. That's 148 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: you know what happened. And I'm not very rich yet, 149 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: but hoping, oh well, you know one day I'm working 150 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: on it. Yeah, but yeah, it was only twenty dollars. 151 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: Was a little bit nervous, But that was not that nervous, 152 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: you know, because I trust myself and I believe myself. 153 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 3: You know, things will get much better and better. 154 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 155 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 5: Well, you might not be I don't I mean, I 156 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 5: don't know your personal finances, Charles, but you might not 157 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: be rich financially, but it sounds like you're rich in 158 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 5: all the best ways. You have a lot of love 159 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: and support around you. You shared this story during the 160 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 5: show about your wife who has passed away. When you 161 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 5: went on the show, right, you sat down with Guy 162 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 5: in a very you know, I would use the word 163 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 5: famous or known moment. I think a lot of people 164 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 5: watched it and related to it and felt it emotionally 165 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: and then felt maybe somebody has been something similar. They 166 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: felt your emotions with them. What made you? I think 167 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 5: we saw the conversation, but what made you actually say no, 168 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: now's the time I want to talk to somebody about this. 169 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: I want to I want to voice whatever it is 170 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 5: I've been feeling for all this time. What made you 171 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 5: make that step, especially in this environment? 172 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: You know, it was very, very hard. And when I 173 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: was in the mansion and interacting with other men, you know, 174 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: we talked. We all of us at first probably hesitated. 175 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: We were not sure it is the word vulnerable, you know, 176 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: whether to what degree we should share ourselves. But as 177 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: we opened the mall and a more, and one day 178 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: I was sitting in you know this guy we were talking, 179 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: I said, the doctor guy. You know, one scene really 180 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: really bothered me. I still couldn't figure out what really 181 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: happened to my wife when she fell and there was 182 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: little bit of blood here and there. So he thought 183 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: for a while, and from his perspectives and his experience, 184 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: he said, maybe this is what happened, as I explained 185 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: in the program. And after that I was really really relieved. Yeah, 186 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: and it was such such a moment that, you know, 187 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: I would say, it's kind of turning point. And I 188 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: was sad on one hand, but on the other hand, 189 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: and I found answer, and that also I began to 190 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: have more courage to move on and open it. As 191 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: Sophia said, Dad has changed. He really has changed after 192 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 3: the program, and people can tell. 193 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that it was worth the experience just to let out. 194 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: And also when I talk to other people now, you know, 195 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: I think one part is in the program itself, but 196 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: also after the program, a lot of people come to me, 197 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: you know, Charles, you know, we're sorry what happened to you. 198 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: But at the same time they said this program really 199 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: helped them too, you know, linked to a lot of 200 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: themselves or their relatives. They said they really should have 201 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: the courage and openess like you did. You know, so 202 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: you really influenced other people, you know, not only look 203 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: at back, but have to you know, open up yourself 204 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 3: and move forward. As we use the analogy as if 205 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: you know, we are riding a train. You know, it 206 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: was a sad part at one stop. But on the 207 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: other hand, you know we've got to you know, prepared 208 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: and move on. So that I think probably encouraged and 209 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: help a lot of people, you know, in front of 210 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: the TV. For those who didn't have a chance to 211 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 3: meet with me yet, there are quite a few people 212 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: after the show they had a chance to meet me 213 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: here and there at the output at the train stage. 214 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 3: You can't leave it, you know. I was stopped at 215 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: the painstation in New York. You know, as soon as 216 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: I got off, I think about eight or ten people 217 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: from Texas they were waiting for me, and they had Charles, 218 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: and now I know we talked yeah, and then other 219 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: people in high Charles. Even the surprise thing is that 220 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: barely anyone's like I asked me saying, are you Charles. No, 221 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: it's a Charles. So it's it's it's affirmed. It's just 222 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: I mean, no doubt this is Charles, you know, the 223 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: one from the show that I mean, I feel really 224 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: really proud of myself in a sense, but also you know, 225 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: I feel happy for the audience. You know where we 226 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: can communicate in that perspective. 227 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 5: Charles, I got I got a fan here who would 228 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 5: love to also meet you. 229 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: My wife Jessica. Jessica, can you come in here for 230 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: a second. 231 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: Wow? 232 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 4: When he can come. 233 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: Oscar, don't be shy. 234 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: She's not going to be show. 235 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 5: We just had a new little baby girl, Charles, and 236 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 5: so oh congratulations they're out there playing. 237 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 4: This is my wife, remember Charles from the show, Charles, 238 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: I'm your biggest bed. 239 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: Nice to meet you. 240 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 4: Gosh, this is the coolest thing. 241 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: I told you, Charles. Yeah, this is real, Charles. 242 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. Hi, Whitney says. 243 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, how are you? 244 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: Is that good? 245 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: This is the coolest thing. Thank you, me too. Yeah, 246 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Yeah, me too. Yeah, 247 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm so happy to see you. Yeah, thank you. 248 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: Charles. You have a lot of gears under your belt 249 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: as being a girl dad. As Ben is just one 250 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: for the past three months through four months, what is 251 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: your advice to him? 252 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: Well, you know, be let them be themselves, but at 253 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: the same time, you use your sense. You need to 254 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: guide them sometimes you need a guidance. You know, when 255 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: they've grown up, if this is their question, and I 256 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: have a kind of a limit, you know. I directed 257 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: them only to certain degrees and the level. Rather, I'm 258 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: not a boss, you know, to them. And as a 259 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: father also I treat as a close friend in a sense, 260 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes ask a lot of questions, what they want, 261 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: how they are treated, and what are their dreams. If 262 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: they have any requests, I always try to fulfill them. 263 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: I just give you one example of I don't know 264 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: if it's related or not. When Sophia was in middle 265 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: school and we had a new house, and one day 266 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: she said, Dad, I want to paint my room the 267 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: sitting like a Disney World. She's a great painter, you know. 268 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: I gave her credit. She's very, very artistic and talented. 269 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: Guess what. The mother said, No, you're going to ruin 270 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: the house. Then she came to me. I said, Sophie, 271 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: what is your ideas? After hearing what she said, I 272 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: just priyed and then quietly I said, go ahead, let's 273 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: go by some paint, do what you want. Just one 274 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: promise if things do not work out well, you will 275 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: help me to change the dry wall. She said, that's 276 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: the dumb deal. I'm not sure many Dad would be 277 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: willing to do that. There's a risk to ruin the room, 278 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: and a lot of them are chaos. But I think 279 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: this is the kind of dream and the kids have it, 280 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: we should fulfill support them. So I'm the kind of 281 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: dad like this. Anything it's reachable, possible, I always say yes. 282 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 5: It's going to be hard for me to ever say 283 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 5: no to my daughter. I can tell that right now. 284 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: I don't think my dad ever told me. 285 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: Now, was it your two daughters who signed you up 286 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: for the show? 287 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 6: Then? 288 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: Literally not that they signed up, but the younger one, Sophia, 289 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 3: she kind of talked it over to me and talked 290 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 3: to me to sign it, and we decided very quickly. 291 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: You know, I make a decisions very quickly for certain things. 292 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: So it happened this program. I didn't hesitate, and we 293 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: just jump on the wagon and then move down. 294 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: Well, Charles, some of your guys are down in Costa 295 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: Rica filming paradise. I'm sure they're going to start heading 296 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: back soon, and I would love to know if you 297 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: have some in mind that you think might be finding 298 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: a love match down there. 299 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: One thing, unfortunately, I don't know how many young ladies 300 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: when over there. When you when I use the word 301 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 3: of young ladies, you know, is it a lot or 302 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: only a few? 303 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: I think there'll be equal amounts. 304 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: Wow, that's nice. I'm sure definitely that if that that's 305 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: the case, definitely will be happy stories after they come back. 306 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: We have a chat group, you know, and I'm sure 307 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: there'll be photos and even cases, roses, so on and 308 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: so forth. And I'll be happy if something you know 309 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: closer to you know, engagement, you know, we'll be together. Yeah, 310 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: I'll be happy for them. 311 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: We'll be happy for them too. 312 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 5: And obviously you're not down there, as we've mentioned before, 313 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 5: but you are in the real world where you know, 314 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 5: potential partners do exist. Still, are you dating? Are you 315 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 5: interested in dating? If so, how is it going for you. 316 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: I have not formally started dating yet yet, you know, 317 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: it's on my agenda if I can say that. Yeah, 318 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: I'm kind of in the way to be rush, but 319 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: not I'm not in a hurry either. I think, you know, 320 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for that moment that the nice lady you 321 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: know will pop up, and also for me, you know, 322 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: I hope you know, I'll show up, you know as well. 323 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: I'm kind of you know, dream of or waiting for 324 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 3: that particular moment, and I'm sure, you know, something would 325 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: definitely happen, but it's a matter of time. If that happens, 326 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: I'll let you guys know. 327 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 2: No, yeah, keep manifesting that thank you, thank you. 328 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: Sure. 329 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way it should be, you know. 330 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was kind of nervous before the show, 331 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: as I explained during the program. Now that that part 332 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 3: is gone, and we are very transparent, you know, among 333 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: the kids myself, so I wouldn't worry too much yet, 334 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: you know, if that really happens, I still would like 335 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: to seek some opinion from the daughters, you know, and 336 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: even though they may not have the final approval say 337 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 3: yeah or no, but I would respect their instinct. I'm 338 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: sure they are pretty smart. We just want to make sure, 339 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: you know, she's happy and I'm happy. You know that. 340 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: That's the ultimatic goal, you know, nothing else. You know, 341 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: she can be rich or not necessary rich. You know, 342 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 3: she can be very happy, pretty or not necessary. That 343 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 3: pretty easy. Yeah, But the warm heart, the sweetheart, probably 344 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: is most important. 345 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Charles, You've got a sweetheart, you do. It was 346 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 5: shown on national television. You might not be the next 347 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: Golden Bachelor, but there are millions of people around the 348 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 5: world that would love to just get to run into 349 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 5: you because you know what you did. You were relatable, 350 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 5: you were engaging, your kind. Thank you, and you brought 351 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 5: a really healthy perspective to the show. And for that 352 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 5: all of us thank you. 353 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: Thank Charles, and. 354 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 5: This next season of life before we talk to you 355 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: again once you do get out there and start dating. 356 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 5: What's keeping you busy today? As we kind of close. 357 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 3: Here, Okay, one is you know, I visit my grandkids, 358 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: you know, as many times as I can. And also 359 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: I spend quite a few hours in the gym. We 360 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: have formed a very nice group of senior people, if 361 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: I can say, well, we dance, we exercise, we play pickaballs, 362 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: and we go out, have lunch, celebrate birthdays, so on 363 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: and so forth. And also another hobby, as I explained 364 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 3: in the program, it's just my hobby. I try to 365 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: trade half an hour day, you know, when the market 366 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: is ripe, and I do in salt, so I can 367 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: read a lot of stuff in reference to that market. 368 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: I really enjot it. You know. I may make, you know, 369 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: quite a few hundred dollars here and there, or lose 370 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: a few hundred dollars here and there. But that's okay yet. 371 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: You know, I know what I'm doing and I've been 372 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: doing very well, so I'm pretty pretty happy with that. 373 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: I'm very busy. And then nowadays, you know, I also 374 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: start by libraries. You know, I don't have particular topic 375 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 3: to study, but anything that catch my eyes, you know, 376 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: I would dig into that, either books or magazines on 377 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: and so forth. The first thing in the morning, when 378 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: I wake up, I always call Hey, Google, you know, 379 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 3: and then they say, oh, good morning, Charles. The news starts. 380 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: After the news, I said, hey, Google, can you play 381 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: such such music? While you know, I began to, you know, 382 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: make my room. So it's it's a it's a kind 383 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: of very routine. I'm pretty busy, but I'm very happy. 384 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have Google play you Britney Spears, because 385 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: we know that it was on your bucket list to 386 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: see her live, and she says she's never put forming again, 387 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: so we may all not cross that one off. 388 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 3: Sure, you know, no anything. Sometimes school say, oh, Chiles, 389 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: we don't have that program, and I tease the Google, 390 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: and then another time, yes, you know, or I get 391 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: something on the YouTube and any other channels Also at 392 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: this moment, I watch NBA finals and also I watch 393 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: football finals. So now it's the time, you know, I 394 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: try to watch each single game moving forward. 395 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 5: It's a good time. Knicks versus the Pacers. The Pacers 396 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 5: will come out on top. 397 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 4: Charles. I'm just letting you know right now, as an 398 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: Indiana fan. 399 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: I'm fine. No, I respect each team. I love them all. 400 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: You know, I don't have if one team loses the other, 401 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: I'm not mad, you know, I'm all happy for their 402 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: great efforts and entertainment. I love it. 403 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, goodness, Charles, You're made in a factory somewhere. You're 404 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 5: like perfect, perfect, perfect man, a man that so many 405 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 5: of us can hope to be one day. Charles Link, 406 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: thank you for coming on the Almost Famous podcast. Thank 407 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 5: you for giving up your time. Thank you for sharing 408 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 5: all of your insights and all of your knowledge. And 409 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 5: I'm not kidding. My wife is was probably will always 410 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 5: be a huge. 411 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 4: Fan of you, Charles, along with so many others. So 412 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: we're wishing the best. Thank you, keeping. 413 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 3: Tention my best regards to my fans as well. Besides you, 414 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: thank perfect. 415 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: We will Thanks Charles, I love it. 416 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: Bye, Charles, thank you, Thank you, well guys. Until next time, 417 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: I've been Ashley. 418 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: And I've been Ben. We'll talk to you soon. 419 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 420 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.