WEBVTT - MYSONNE’S SOUL IS NOT FOR SALE

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<v Speaker 1>That's how It's your boy, my son, and I'm Tamika D.

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<v Speaker 1>Mallory and this is Street Politicians with the Streets in

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<v Speaker 1>Politics meet. Yes, sir, Yes, sir. It's been good. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been a four week man our last podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been a full week, full week going on

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<v Speaker 1>happen and this weekend wow everything who we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we was working, but we did. We worked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>this week until Freedom, our baby, our organization is coming

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<v Speaker 1>together and a lot of people asking like they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did all of this happen? Right Like everyere we go,

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, what's the story of how Street Politicians

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<v Speaker 1>came about? Also until Freedom, and just the story of

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<v Speaker 1>how we came together in general. And it's been it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a six year about six years, six plush years, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just working just you know, I tell people all the time, man,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you meet people, sometimes you have situations and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a calling, you know what I'm saying. You were

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<v Speaker 1>already doing the work and I was fresh out of prison,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to find not really fresh out of prison,

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<v Speaker 1>but home from prison for a while and still just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find my space doing music. I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>personal training, you know, I was just utilizing every attribute

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to try to create a lane, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were connected event at a service event. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to my homegirl media who had called me to

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<v Speaker 1>do a service event on a Christmas and you were there.

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<v Speaker 1>You also wanted to organize that and Shane that set

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<v Speaker 1>up to Shane. There was a lot of people there,

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<v Speaker 1>Kruchi was there, was there, Karuchi was there, Free, Jennifer Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different people. Shanda was there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to I knew Machanda for years, but we

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<v Speaker 1>just started to vibe. And then that's when you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do personal training because I was a personal trainer

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<v Speaker 1>and while we were I was training, I started telling

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<v Speaker 1>you about the music that exactly and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>we listened to it as our background music. I was

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<v Speaker 1>playing the music. He's like, Yo, this is dope. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll let you here this one piece that I

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<v Speaker 1>did for Trader on Mother's Trade, on Martin's Mother Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were like, you know that is so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually know her. Send it to her and she

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love in love with me. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I knew my homegirl calm and goes into

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<v Speaker 1>the tender centers and she works with these these you

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<v Speaker 1>dope for. You introduced me to her next thing. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were Injustice League. I was in the Middle Street

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<v Speaker 1>at a march for your first protests, protests, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been a good you know, right, But it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for us to really bring all of what we

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<v Speaker 1>have to the forefront so that you know, we've done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to serve other people, which we will always

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<v Speaker 1>with our organizations that were member burds of and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and just all of these other things that we do

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<v Speaker 1>all the time to support other people's visions. But now

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<v Speaker 1>our vision is coming to the forefront. And we love

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<v Speaker 1>our Until Freedom Families, specifically our co founders Linda Sarsul

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<v Speaker 1>and Angelo Pinto. All the time, we all argue, so

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<v Speaker 1>we do, and I think that's where greatness comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you debate with someone and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a different point of view and you're able to at

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<v Speaker 1>least let them understand your point of view, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you come together and you form like votum. Because everybody

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<v Speaker 1>does different things, we have different entry points into this

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<v Speaker 1>work and into this movement, but we all have the

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<v Speaker 1>same goal, you know. So it's like until freedom is

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<v Speaker 1>like a one stop shop for everything. You have people

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<v Speaker 1>who we have a lawyer, Angelo is a lawyer. You

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<v Speaker 1>have Linda who who specifically does policy, and she is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in tune with the Muslim community, with the

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<v Speaker 1>Palestine community. She is like she pretty much in her

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<v Speaker 1>book is dropping her book. Does a lot happen, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a good ride to get to this place.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have to give love to our sister, our

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<v Speaker 1>big sister mentor she's not that big though. She's still

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<v Speaker 1>a little snack pack cat Triggs. Snack pack Cat Trigg,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to write the snack trick you need to

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<v Speaker 1>check out. But we love our our woman TV family.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, like I said, this weekend in particular was loaded.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of stuff was happening. We ended the week

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<v Speaker 1>last week with the Senate voting against bringing witnesses to

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<v Speaker 1>the impeachment trial for Donald Trump. I mean that's a sham.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this whole impeachment trial to me is a sham.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I get it because us we have to

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<v Speaker 1>let the world see this, like it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>documented how far they're willing to go to really undermine

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<v Speaker 1>the government Constitution is being thrown out right now. To

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<v Speaker 1>really see this, like when you really watched this in

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<v Speaker 1>real time, it's like you're sitting there and you confused,

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<v Speaker 1>like is this really what's happened? Because I know if

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<v Speaker 1>this was me and you, we would be under the jail. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's save the conversation later because we really need to

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. But you know that happened, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're coming out of the week or

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<v Speaker 1>ending the week with the impeachment stuff just being as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, a sham. And then I received a text

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<v Speaker 1>message actually from Angelo, our partners, saying Bloomberg might make

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<v Speaker 1>the debate stage. Now. The rules for the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>had been that you have to have thousands of donations

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<v Speaker 1>from everyday people before you can make it to the

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<v Speaker 1>debate stage. Right now, all the people of color gone,

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<v Speaker 1>Corey's gone gone. What's his I was about to call

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<v Speaker 1>him Fidel Lord Jesus Julian Castro is on all the

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<v Speaker 1>people of color gone? And now because because they well

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't meet the criterias because they were on the

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<v Speaker 1>debate stage. But it was becoming more and more of

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<v Speaker 1>a struggle financially the support that they need Corey was

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<v Speaker 1>having a hard time getting his whole numbers up. And

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<v Speaker 1>you also have to be at least at four percent

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<v Speaker 1>UMU polling at four percent in order for you to

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<v Speaker 1>to be to make the debate stage. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were having some issues and challenges there. But these folks,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them are gone, and now Bloomberg enters the race. Besides,

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<v Speaker 1>he opts out of taking any political any donations from

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<v Speaker 1>just the outside public. He's paying for his campaign himself,

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<v Speaker 1>pouring mills and millions of dollars okay, okay in advertisement right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's now eligible to be in the debate because

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party has changed the rules now I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it just anyway, We talked about that later. Um, the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl ads a lot of mixed feelings out there

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<v Speaker 1>about the ads. We can talk about the NFL UM

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<v Speaker 1>ads where the Inspired Change which is their initiative, that

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<v Speaker 1>is it sort of comes out of the Colin Kaepernick

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<v Speaker 1>UM situation, a Colin Kaepernick protests UM and and so

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<v Speaker 1>Inspired Change is supposed to bring the issues that the

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<v Speaker 1>players have to the forefront along with the players coalition,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they had an advertisement that was shown uh

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<v Speaker 1>during the Super Bowl. This year that people have different

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<v Speaker 1>feelings about. Um. And then, and of course you had

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. He had an ad where he specifically targeted

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<v Speaker 1>the black community around criminal justice reform. To me, it

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<v Speaker 1>was extremely disgusting. But that's a whole different conversation. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I want to make sure I say this

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<v Speaker 1>brother's name properly, Javonta Javonte Javonte Davis, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>my our buddy. Chili keeps telling me that he is

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<v Speaker 1>a star played a star boxer. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It means that he's pretty much ranked in the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten in the world in boxing, and is he's like

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<v Speaker 1>on the road to be number one? Like he's Floyd Mayweathers.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember last month because I was trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out who he who he is? And I remember last

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<v Speaker 1>month all that who's who was out looking good going

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<v Speaker 1>to a boxing match in Atlanta and it was him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so Um, he basically snatched his baby mama, as they say,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd like to say his daughter's mother off of

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<v Speaker 1>her out of her seat at some type of event.

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<v Speaker 1>Looked like it was a sporting event. There were a

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<v Speaker 1>number of TMT event uh signs around, But he snatched

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<v Speaker 1>her out of her seat by her collar. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>say his hand was around her throat. I'm not sure exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>but definitely he was in that area. UM. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of controversy online about that UM, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and just what it means and what it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing. So we can talk about that,

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<v Speaker 1>UM and then you know, last but not least, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>we won't get an opportunity to really really get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's important for us to mention that

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<v Speaker 1>the coronavirus is spreading, that there is now another possible

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<v Speaker 1>case in New York one, that one case has been

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed in Boston. UM. I remember checking the numbers last

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<v Speaker 1>week at some point and it was eleven thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>one publication. By the time time I checked again last night,

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<v Speaker 1>they said fourteen thousand people in China specifically are excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>have been affected by this virus. UH. And now we

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<v Speaker 1>have more cases here in in the US somewhere it

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<v Speaker 1>said nine, now it says twelve. So not sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>people really need to stay protected, pay attention, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're sick, go to the doctor and

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself checked, and and and just right now, we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from our producers that they're seventeen thousand at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So again I checked last week, eleven thousand. By the

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<v Speaker 1>time I checked yesterday fourteen thousand, and now today we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing seventeen thousand people UH and eleven in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is very serious and and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>important thing for us to know. I was reading the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times article um this weekend that talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how China was aware that this UH virus was spreading.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew it, and in fact they chastised doctors who

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<v Speaker 1>were speaking about it too, people who were outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. So there was one they tried to keep.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is China operates on secrecy, hashash silence. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to talk, you know that as I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Chinese government, not Chinese people, so let's be

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<v Speaker 1>real clear about that. But they operate on you know, silency.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody don't want anyone in their business. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really talk publicly about what's going on within our country.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, there was a doctor who was quarantined

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<v Speaker 1>on a particular floor with people who had the virus

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<v Speaker 1>or who have the virus, and he texted some friends

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<v Speaker 1>who are also in the medical field and said to them,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm quarantined doing such and such floor this is very

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<v Speaker 1>akin to stars. It's a real big situation. And when

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<v Speaker 1>and of course those people went around telling folks, and

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<v Speaker 1>when the hospital found out about it, they chastised him

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<v Speaker 1>and then made him sign some type of legal documentation

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<v Speaker 1>that he wouldn't talk about it anymore. So as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of them not doing what was necessary and making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that other governments knew about it so people could

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<v Speaker 1>do the things that we see now where they shut

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<v Speaker 1>down travel, and and also just inform people if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to China, know that this is happening. Because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do that, it's spreading across the country and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what we what's going to end up happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So these governments have power over our lives. It's really serious, man.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta pray for the people in China. That's seventeen thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of people who seventeen thousand people. I

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<v Speaker 1>keep hearing about the coronavirus and they're saying, how many

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<v Speaker 1>people are actually dying? Is this is this? So? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it mutating to this point? Where they're dying instantly or

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<v Speaker 1>is it something that is potentially between nine people? And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that my last check, and I was off already

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<v Speaker 1>to three thousand people. Two fifty nine people had died.

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<v Speaker 1>No one in the US has died from the virus,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it seems like it is treatable. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, still again, how it happened, how it's spreading,

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<v Speaker 1>what information. A lot of conversations we had about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess we'll start with my thought of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned you said, Jervonte Giant Davis the Boxer, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really troubled, Mice, Like, I'm really, really, really troubled

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<v Speaker 1>because I posted what I had I saw on the

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<v Speaker 1>Shade Room and ball Alert and all of these different sites.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that this incident happened. So you know me,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I see a black woman being mistreated, I'm always like,

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<v Speaker 1>my little spidy sence this peak up and I'm ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go because I know that, as Malcolm X said,

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<v Speaker 1>the black woman is the most unprotected, disrespected person in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. And so as I looked at it and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it, and for the first time in a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, I decided I wasn't going to say much

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, people always accuse me you so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you always bashing black men and this and that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know what, I'm not gonna say anything yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna wait until this was in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night. So I'm like, let me wait until

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<v Speaker 1>I talk to you and you know, brothers and and

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, yo, do y'all see this. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>could lead the conversation on how this is, how this

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<v Speaker 1>happened and what it looks like. And then I saw

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<v Speaker 1>his Instagram comments which he said, I didn't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh y'all relaxed. Basically, yeah, I was aggressive, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hit her and I would never abuse her or

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<v Speaker 1>heard her like that. But anyway, Happy New Year's and

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<v Speaker 1>January was trash, so that was it for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing I saw was he was out with

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<v Speaker 1>some of your friends partying the night after it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Because these are your friends. They were hanging out the

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<v Speaker 1>night of after this incident happen, partying. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in in you know, in defense of the deck, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you got it. I'm gonna let you take it

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<v Speaker 1>away from it. My thought of the day was around

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw his comment. I posted it and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's someone going to tell him that this is violence

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<v Speaker 1>and that this is abuse and it was wrong? Is

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<v Speaker 1>anybody gonna tell him that? And and and of course

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<v Speaker 1>over two thousand comments are now on my page. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of them, I will say, you know, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>like se and that's a low rating to me. Our

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<v Speaker 1>feet are people in general who are like, it's wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>it's abuse, is wrong, what have you? And I have

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<v Speaker 1>to also say I am very very grateful and humbled

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<v Speaker 1>by the amount of black men who are on my

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<v Speaker 1>page saying full stop, no, it's wrong, period. But there

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<v Speaker 1>is another thirty of women and men and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of women not saying more, but a lot of women

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<v Speaker 1>who were saying all he did was him up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, like you know what I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really that serious, like come on me, shut up. But

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<v Speaker 1>we have to get into this. But the question thought

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, which I still haven't gotten to, is

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<v Speaker 1>we need to have, first of all, a big conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about domestic violence. And then the real question is like

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<v Speaker 1>why don't other people see this as abuse? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening that we don't see that as abuse. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what we don't see, why we don't see that as abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in what I say is we've normalized abnormality,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in this culture, in the culture that we live

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<v Speaker 1>it in. Like you'll watch because this is common. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not an abnormal thing. You'd be in the club

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody sees their girl talking and somebody you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>somebody grab a pull, or you'll see girls hit their

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<v Speaker 1>man and people laugh and they put the memes up

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<v Speaker 1>and there's never really any seriousness because it has been

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<v Speaker 1>normalized in our culture, is it right? Of course not.

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<v Speaker 1>I come from a family of which i've I've witnessed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, domestic abuse, so I understand the seriousness of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is a dynamic and a demographic within our

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<v Speaker 1>culture who have normalized this, who used to getting him.

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<v Speaker 1>They see their man and they argue, and they put

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<v Speaker 1>their hands on a man and he grabs on and

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<v Speaker 1>they shake each other, and this is how they express

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<v Speaker 1>some level of love. This is a normal thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen done numerous times with couples who who you

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<v Speaker 1>see together the next day and they didn't get into nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>They laugh about it, like, yeah, I was about to

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<v Speaker 1>break his neck, or yeah she she no better than me.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to him up a look, this is normal,

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<v Speaker 1>especially within our culture right now? Is it right? No?

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<v Speaker 1>But is it normal? You see that you have thirty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of people who see that this is something that's

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<v Speaker 1>they used to it. They they're like, come on, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like he you sort he said, oh, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do nothing like that because to him, just

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<v Speaker 1>grabbing her like that wasn't anything that was abusive. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no level of abuse to It was just him

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<v Speaker 1>explaining to her how he was mad. This is how

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to express. If he didn't punch her,

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<v Speaker 1>if he didn't hit up, it was okay. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>argued with men on my page who have watched men

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<v Speaker 1>fully beat women and said, well, she hit him first,

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<v Speaker 1>or she's done this like beat up like she's So

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<v Speaker 1>the mind state is way different because the big question

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<v Speaker 1>that folks had is what did she do? What did

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<v Speaker 1>she do to make him respond this way? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>What was? What was? Who was she there? With? What she's?

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<v Speaker 1>Then someone said, well he is escorted her out and

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<v Speaker 1>he probably told her to get up via text or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and she didn't go, and therefore he had to escort

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<v Speaker 1>her out. So I'm just trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>people see someone grabbing you by the neck or by

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<v Speaker 1>your collar and forcefully lifting you out your chair to

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<v Speaker 1>be escorting, because escorting to me means you arm in arm,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can only I can imagine if you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>something crazy, or maybe she texts him something crazy, or

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<v Speaker 1>she was out doing god knows what. Maybe he saw

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<v Speaker 1>her on somebody's stories kicking in and too much and

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, who knows. I could even imagine him

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<v Speaker 1>walking up to her and an arm in arm telling

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<v Speaker 1>her like, we're getting out of here right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm pistol off this that in the third we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna discuss this or whatever. I could see that, but

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<v Speaker 1>he grabbed. This is a man who is a boxer,

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<v Speaker 1>who's his hands are considered to be lethal weapons. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I'm trying to tell you. I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>But I also get that. There's I'm telling you. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go in the average club and see those type

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<v Speaker 1>of situations happen all day and people normalize it. The

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<v Speaker 1>police could be there, the bouncers. The police won't even

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<v Speaker 1>they won't even get involved in they won't unless most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time they just walk away. They're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to say there's a domestic dispute. If he was grabbing

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend by the colin pulling up, they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>calm down, they're not going to rest they immediately because

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<v Speaker 1>it's normalized within our culture. And I understand what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we have to really look and be

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<v Speaker 1>serious about our analysis of this situation because most people,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the hip hop culture, this is a normal thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But see, but that okay. So that brings me to

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<v Speaker 1>my point on and what I and what I said,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think on the Shade Room, I said, when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw your friends having a good time with him

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<v Speaker 1>at the club, later on, I said, no one's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell him that what he did was wrong. And I

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<v Speaker 1>a video and I totally respect that, right I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also feel like that's one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>problems that we have, is allowing people around us to

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<v Speaker 1>get away with things that we really should be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to hang out with you right

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<v Speaker 1>now if I think that's possible that you're abusive. Now

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<v Speaker 1>check this out. A woman sent me a d M afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>telling me about another incident with someone very close to

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<v Speaker 1>her and him. And then someone else came on my

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<v Speaker 1>page and said some other girl named Ari that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure who that is, another uh celebrity or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you know, influence, whatever you want to call her. That

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<v Speaker 1>she said he came to her hotel and kicked her door,

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<v Speaker 1>tried to kick her door in, saying that he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna beat her ass. Right, So now there's been there,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but what happens is now he's opened up

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<v Speaker 1>Pandora's box, like and this is what usually happened. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're an abusive person, then it usually comes out if

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<v Speaker 1>you've abused somebody before, and even the most minute situations

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<v Speaker 1>like this can open uncovered. And you know, I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I wish that is wrong. I wish that

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<v Speaker 1>um that these are not true allegations because he's a

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<v Speaker 1>young black kid from the inner city, grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>uh um, forced to care. He's been by himself, come

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<v Speaker 1>from the dirt, poverty, so from Philly. Like, so you

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<v Speaker 1>want Baltimore, my fault, You from Baltimore and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see him become successful, but you don't want you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't condone things like this, but that the reality

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<v Speaker 1>is there is a culture that is very toxic that

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<v Speaker 1>we celebrate right now and it's normalized and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to of course, we got to call out things when

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<v Speaker 1>we see it, when we see people do things, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to call out. But we have to do is

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<v Speaker 1>try to start changing the toxics. But that's my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you change the toxicity without challenging I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out why is it that I even even and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even bring this up in my post, although

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<v Speaker 1>many of the comments was questioning why another any other

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<v Speaker 1>black men who were in that room didn't stop and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't take ky out of here like that. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to relax, my man. You can't, because I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. I'm gonna tell you the realist thing in

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<v Speaker 1>that situation right there now, if he had punched in

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<v Speaker 1>the face and somebody got in, sure, I'm sure the

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<v Speaker 1>woman would have done. Listen to me, but listen, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying this. Listen. I'm gonna give my point

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<v Speaker 1>out is that if he had punched there and he jumped,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody jumped in for her, she would have been okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. But in that situation. I've seen those exact situations.

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<v Speaker 1>Would woman say you mind your business, we're good over here,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll jump you. I've I've seen that is the

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<v Speaker 1>issue because people, especially in those situations like that where

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't any blunt enforce and punches and and things thrown,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know how far to get involved in someone

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<v Speaker 1>else relationship because they have been vic they have thought

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<v Speaker 1>that they were doing the best thing. And the woman

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<v Speaker 1>tell of the minor business, we got this, don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>about this because they have they have toxic relationships that

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<v Speaker 1>these things are Normally we need to be talking. It

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a full conversation. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's on you know, I think it's on every I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's on a relationship. I think people have to

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<v Speaker 1>be have to restructure this, this culture of how relationships

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<v Speaker 1>are handled, because I'm telling you that no, not attend

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>people that you come from. You act in our communities,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the hip hop culture, they're young within between

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty something before, a little bit before thirty or

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<v Speaker 1>even thirty will tell you that it wasn't that serious.

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<v Speaker 1>All he did was grabbed by the collar, like he

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>can't beat it up, like I'm telling you that's so.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, there has to be a conversation across

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<v Speaker 1>the I just want, I'm hoping, I'm personally hoping, and

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<v Speaker 1>my thought of the day that my son is being

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<v Speaker 1>taught by every man around him, every man, that that

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<v Speaker 1>behavior is wrong. Number one, that it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 1>she did, that you can't she's not your dog, she's

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<v Speaker 1>not your child, because you're not even allowed to beat dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've stopped really allowing you to even uh physically

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>chastise your children. Although my parents didn't care about you

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>grab your your child by the collar. You ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get him, Okay, so but you still it might be

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that says this looks a little whatever and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hope that people are telling them this is

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<v Speaker 1>not the right way to behave. But I also would

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<v Speaker 1>hope that if he does do it, that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be a real come to Jesus conversation and that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>his friends wouldn't be in the club laughing and joking

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<v Speaker 1>and having a good time, because basically what that says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a throwaway thing. It's not that serious. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what I want, I want to act, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really serious point. When Clange jay Z did anyone, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a number of articles and people who spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that violence, no matter what, is wrong. In

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<v Speaker 1>fact that maybe that may be what you heard, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you there were a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, and I can find it for you

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<v Speaker 1>and share with you. And in fact, there was an

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<v Speaker 1>entire you know, part of our community, or many people

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>in our community who argued that should he have been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot out to hit her back because she hit him? Right,

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I'm just trying to tell you in our culture,

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>because maybe it was somewhere else, but I'm talking about

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>in the culture where I lived, it was celebrated, were

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>celebrated as that's right. You disrespected me, you dispected my sister.

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>We put our hands on you. It was music, It

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.880
<v Speaker 1>was every There was nobody that I've seen of any

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>level of statue. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I think that

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>we didn't. We you know, we didn't look into it

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>before coming here if you had asked me that. But

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go back and find it because I know

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that there were stories where women were talking and men

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>were talking about violence and how it's wrong and what

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>have you. But what I will say is this, I

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone needs to put their hands on anyone.

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody needs to keep their hands to themselves.

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want my son's girlfriend hitting him. I don't

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>want him hitting her. But I will say this, black

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>men need to understand. Specifically, all men need to know.

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>But black men need to know that you got birth

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>from a woman, that you got birth through a woman,

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and if you abuse the person that carried you and

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>brought you into this world, it's some real scum shit

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>about that. And I'm not Also, we have to look

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>at like you said, what's abuse? What abuse is? I'm

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>sitting somewhere and you physically come and decide that I

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta go. But I'm trying to tell you that is

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:36.360
<v Speaker 1>normalised and understand that to a bunch of men. Anytime

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>a man of being a club having a conversation with

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a woman and women have come grab you out your seat,

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I promise you a bunch of average man cannot will

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>not physically move when a woman comes and grabs him.

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I promise you that that's not it's not physical. Don't know.

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>What I'm asking you is the fact that he doesn't move,

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>it's wrong. Okay, that's what I'm trying to say, because

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>she can't physically moving, but the act itself is the same,

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'm saying to you that it is wrong. So

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that's physical in any case is wrong. And we have

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>to have the conversation because the culture has normalized it

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>on both ends. Okay, that's fine, and we could be

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>done with it. And I just I feel like a

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of brothers are out here talking about, you know,

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>respect the man. I'm a man, and what that looks like.

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And if it doesn't look like having the discipline that

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>you were not in public, violate, embarrassed, and disrespect with

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>your physical ability that is clearly more dominant than a woman.

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>If you don't have that type of discipline, and don't

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>come tell me about being a man, don't don't tell

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>me about that. Okay, So you want to have the

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>last because to me, like listen to me. You know,

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm an advocate, like I cannot. You're not going to

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>do anything to a woman in front. It's just not

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. It's never going to happen. But what I'm

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>asking is all we have in that same criteria is

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you a woman putting her hands on a man, does

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that exclude her from womanhood? Is that less? It's her

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>lack of discipline. I think what you just said, No,

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to let me see what I'm saying,

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>because you said if a man doesn't have the discipline

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>enough not to put his hands or grab anything to

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>a woman, then he can't talk about being a man.

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm asking you, if a woman doesn't have that

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>same discipline enough not to put her hands on a man,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>can we say that she's not a woman. I think

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, it's very childish and and I think

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>it's very childish. And I will say again that there

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>is a difference in the physical it is ability of

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>men and women. I think that I'm not saying that

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it's right or wrong, and I think you're right a

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>conversation she needs to happen again. Across the board, people

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>need to not put their hands on each other. But

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the problem that I have with this conversation even is

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the equivocation that because we're talking about something that actually

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>happened yesterday or the day before yesterday, that we need

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to now bring up what women have done also, instead

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>of us being able to deal with the fact that

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>this happened, and and and there are a lot, but

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think that we're not dealing

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>with it. I think that we've already. I think that

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>my point, my position was that is wrong. It is

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>totally wrong. And you asked me why. Your question is

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>why people, and I had to break it down to

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>what it is. Because when you can see salangs do that,

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>or you were at the club with a dude, dance

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>with a dude and you see a girl walk up

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>behind him and start hitting him and doing no not

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to do the dude dancing with a girl and somebody

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>coming behind, Yeah, beat him up, and it's it's a

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>number one mem and anybody's laughing at joke and anybody saying, Yo,

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that's messed up. So I understand with your point of view,

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>because for me, I'm physically too strong. I'm not gonna

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>do anything to him because don't matter what you do

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to me, you can't really hurt me. So my hope,

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>my first thing is to restrain you at home, so

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't see a need to return fire or harm

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you fire return fire, because just think about firing, that's firing.

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Look if you're some fires is so not to sell

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>mixtape and mixtape that that is, you know, we're the

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>critics corner and me specifically, Um, we listened to everything

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that you say with and read everything you write with

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>a very fine tooth comb. UM. And I can say

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that I'm very proud of your growth because I certainly

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>have seen it now. Sister Carmen was talking about that yesterday.

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Just how much you have a lovely text. Thank you, Carmen,

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>You've grown so much. Um. And as I'm listening to

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>so not to sell the mix tape, I hear so

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>much passion and so much and just I mean, I

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like you developed as an artist, because you've

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>always been a great artist to me. And I just

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>think people need to listen and really take the time

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>because I think folks, if it's not in rotation on

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the radio, it takes them a longer process to actually

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>sit down and listen. In the world is moving so

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>fast that folks that even they want to but they

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>just can't, you know, for whatever reason. Um. But I

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>sat down, but I was hearing different songs at different

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>times in different spaces. But I sat down and I

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>listened to every single song, every single word. And I

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>have to say that there are really really some dope

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>tracks on this mixtape. So shout out to you. Congratulations

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>did a really really really really really good job. So

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>how does it feel and talk about the process and

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole Well, for me, man, I've put together this

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>is like the third pro project that I've created in

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the last few months. Man, shout out my boy Chris

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Gotti um at Adventure Music something for shoutouts around. Shout

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>out because in just give him love. Man, Um, Chris

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Gotty have been reaching out to me for a while, like,

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>y'all want to do some music with you. I want

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to work with you. I think you dope. Were always

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>thought you was dope. I love what you stand for

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know. And then one day we were at

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the Rucker, I mean not the Rucker, we were at

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>in the Dikement playground and then we just started building.

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>He's like, come to the studio. And then I went

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to the studio and we just started working on a project.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>We did a project you know, um, that we already created.

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>We had it. It's another project that you've heard some

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of the tracks on. But we got about twenty songs

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's so like dope, you know, and we just

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>we're waiting for the right time to release it. So

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>while I was writing, I'm like, you know what, let

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>me just put something out. I want to put a

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>mixtape about that, because was a field. It was just

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>a field because people want to know, why not the album?

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Why not the album? But I was like, it's a

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>setup because the album, to me, is even doper than this.

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think this is dope. But the album touches

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>on so many different subjects and stories. There's so many

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 1>different things on the album. But this mixtape for me,

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was something that was like a two and a half

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>weak process that we went to and we found some

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>tracks that just married and had a feeling and you know,

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>So Not for Sale was is a is a clothing

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>line that I you know, I worked with with my

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>partner little Man in my Life. He started the company,

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>started so Not for Sale brand a few years ago

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and then we started partnering on it a couple of

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and which you know, he he's um was

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the founder of that. And I said, you know what,

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>this is something that represents me, you know what I'm saying.

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's why that's where our our partnership came and

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this mixtape should be named that. You

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, I feel like that's always

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>been my soul has never been for sale, and because

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of that, I haven't been able to get recognition. I

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to get on certain platforms and certain

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>situations that I believe I deserve. I don't think there's

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>anything that I lacked musically. I don't think that there's

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>anything that I lack in the entertainment person and all

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>of those things. I believe that I have all of

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the things necessary to be an elite artist in this field.

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that that I don't, you know, I

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 1>don't go about it a certain way, and I don't

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.800
<v Speaker 1>cow tow and I don't bite my tongue and I

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>don't I feel I need to do things to fit

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>into certain rooms is probably why I have And that's

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>just my personal opinion. So this music was to reflect that,

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wanted this music to reflect it and

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't also have essence of what it is that I represent.

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>The movement, you know how it is in almost every

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>song it seems like you touch on um just you know,

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the movement and and not even so much the movement,

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that's one part of it, but just like common sense

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>things and just like real authentic talk, specifically the young

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>people about choices that you've made, decisions you've made, and

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.720
<v Speaker 1>ways in which they can not fall into those same traps.

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.800
<v Speaker 1>So I just think it's a it's a really good project.

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I hope that people will download it every platform, millions

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 1>old platforms, man, you know, because I really just wanted

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to Like a lot of projects I put and I

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.479
<v Speaker 1>put on a few platforms, but this one, I really

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, this needs to be on all platforms, and

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>it's completely independent. You know. I've partnered with Adventure, Me

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and Chris Gardy. We just just wanted to give it

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to the world. We didn't just promote it. We didn't

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 1>do no big We just said, you know what, this

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>this project for me is gonna be like an R

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 1>and B album. You know, R and B albums, they

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>don't just go straight to the charts unless you just

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>be honest, here's somebody. But what happens is they start

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to just grow slowly, you build like I don't I

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>don't mind building this project for the next six months,

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:01.919
<v Speaker 1>like just building with it because I know each song

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 1>is so powerful, Like, I haven't heard one person that

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>listened to this project that didn't have the sentiments you had,

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Like people like, yo, this this is an epic body

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>of work, Like it's the feel of it's just so

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 1>real and authentic that it took me somewhere else. It's

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>not nothing like that's out now. It still feels, but

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>it has a feeling a vibe that just just empowers you.

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>It makes you just feel something. Now, I was studying

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>your Instagram um stories and really sort of studying what

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>people felt about it, and I noticed that you're already

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>starting to have certain songs that have a trend, like

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Rain that Sale, and it seemed like a lot of

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>people around certain songs that I also felt, you know,

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I had a good feeling about and you can see

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it translating into what the public is saying. So, you know,

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Harry Belafon said something one day that I thought was

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>so powerful and it's stuck with me. He said that

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>when he saw how Paul Roberson was being black ball.

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, Paul Robinson was a revolutionary, you know, and

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>he spoke truth to power. Anytime you did that, especially

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>back then, you could be black balls, and he said

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 1>he started to see what was happening with him, and

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>so he decided to continue as Harry Bellefonte is fine,

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>black man, successful rich man. He decided to still continue

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to do the chicken circuit, like to still do small clubs,

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and to stay down, stay tintoes down, connected to the people.

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Never get too high where they can take it from you, right.

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like in your situation, although it's it's

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>topsy turvy, it's been difficult, you are built. You have

0:39:55.280 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>built such a strong and authentic relationship with people on

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 1>the ground that no matter what, they support you. Because

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 1>everywhere we travel speaking and whatever it is that we're

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>doing across this country organizing, people love you and they

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>come out and they support you, and they and they

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>and they treat you just like they do any other celebrities.

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I just I think it's great. I

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 1>think you have the right model. But I know it's

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 1>frustrating at times to just know where you were and

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to have this be the new direction that you've had

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to take. But it's obviously God's walk for you. Yes,

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's like you said, I'm building it

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>in authenticity. Man, compromising myself. I'm putting out music that

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>has doesn't have to go with status quo. It doesn't

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>have to have a certain sound that is current. It

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>just has what I feel like I'm able to put

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>my music and how I feel, and people are really

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 1>just gravitating into it. So I'm just like you said,

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm blessed to have people that love me, regardless of

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>the statue or what's going on al radio play, Like

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 1>people have been on my page like, you know, we

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>need a project, we need a project. You know. That

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>was my process for it, Like I just wanted to

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>give my hardcore fans, people that really want and believe

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.800
<v Speaker 1>in me, something to listen to. So I'm grateful for

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the way that y'all have received it, you know, and

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm going to continue to push it. We're gonna

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>probably shoot a video for every song because I feel

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like everything on his visual and heartfelt, you know, probably

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>might make a mini movie coll so not for sales

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>because you need to still focus on your album. So

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's it's a part of it though, you

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.800
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I want to I want to

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the music to be the soundtrack for the movie because

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 1>it's so it's so real. That is super super super dope.

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Tell people again how you can actually, Yes, you can

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>go to my page. You can go to my Instagram page.

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>My song in by General and you can click the

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>link in the bio and go straight to my website

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and you can purchase it there. Or it's on every

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 1>other platform in the world that you want to is

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>on Title, Spotify, Apple Music, any other platform that you

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>go to, you can stream it. And you know, just

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>people that don't have Instagram, they could go to your website.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>You can is my son y dot com. It is

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 1>my son yg dot com. You can go right on

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 1>my my website and just purchase it by yourself dot com.

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>People should know, just in case they forget, that means

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:33.399
<v Speaker 1>my son New York General dot com. That's good. That's good.

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>And that was such a high to talk about your album.

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>And I hate to go bring up the Senate stuff again,

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and but we have to make sure, as this show

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>is called Street Politicians, that we educate our audience and

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that we become educated on what's happening from a political perspective.

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I just think America's in big, big, big trouble and

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>we always have been think, but this is really when

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>white folks get scared, then black people should be terrified,

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>like and white people are scared like. There are many

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>white people. I have been meeting white folks who are

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>staunch Republicans. They are Republican. They've their granddaddy was a Republican,

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>their grandmama was cooking pies for the Republican Convention. They

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>children are Republicans. They are they are Republicans, and they

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>are struggling with supporting the Republican Party right now. Many

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>of them have for the first time and they allowed

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it was two thousand and sixteen, for the first time

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>in their lives, they voted on the Democratic side. But

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>even if they didn't then, because they still were so

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>tied to it, now as we moved towards uh election,

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>They're like, there's no way I can support this. They're right,

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I'm not saying that, like, let's not

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>even get into it, because I'm not saying at all

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>that the Democrats are anything better. But I do know

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that President Trump is probably the most dangerous man in America,

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 1>and the party that supports him is definitely not for us.

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's and that's just always been my point of view.

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Like people always say, oh, you Democrats and you talk,

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not. I'm not. I'm by I'm bipartisan

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>by party. That is, you're by parties. Okay, I mean

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>because the reality situation is if if I because I

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>want you to understand about a position, because if I've

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>seen somebody, if I saw somebody, if I had already seen,

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>or if I saw somebody that was in the Republican

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Party that represented my interests, I would vote for That's

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to People think that I keep by

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the party. I don't. That's about the party. You think

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I care about the part the Republicans was talking to

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:05.919
<v Speaker 1>my needs and the things that's going on in black

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 1>communities and really was helping us and understood. I would

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>vote for them. But the problem for me where I

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>have a disconnected You can't tell me that a party

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>ran by white people, the Democrats, but they're all over there.

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 1>But I'm talking about of them are white people that

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 1>come from privileged communities that I don't come the leadership,

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the leadership, even the people that over they only have

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>two black people in their party right now that are

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:42.120
<v Speaker 1>in office in the Senate. So you can't explain to

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>me that white people know more about me and was

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:50.959
<v Speaker 1>for me than we do. Right now, they're all white people.

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.800
<v Speaker 1>What I'm trying to s who come from privilege. But

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to tell you is because that we've

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>narrowed it down, but there were people on that stage,

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:02.320
<v Speaker 1>There are people, there are There are hundreds of people

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in the Democratic Party that looked like me and when

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 1>we Okay, so let's be clear about because you know

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be clear. So what you're saying is

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that when you see the leadership, all the folks that

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:20.720
<v Speaker 1>are hired, the people moving and shaken within the Republican Party,

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 1>of them our wife folks, that's leaders and most of

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 1>the leaders and that's the four white people that come

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>from the same well some of them may have started.

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 1>We take away leading leaders the leadership. That's important, Okay,

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>but you need to understand this. How many people actually

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 1>are in office that are black Republicans? Well no, okay, wait, wait,

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>wait wait? How many office? How many Black Republicans have

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>they actually voted into? All? Okay, but I'm saying I'm

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>just trying to go slow because people don't necessarily understand.

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>They hear things and they go and they'll say of Republicans.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:11.280
<v Speaker 1>My son said that of Republicans have come from privilege,

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>which wouldn't be true because the body, the Republican Party's

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>body just like every other body. When you start to

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>trickle down, it's just everyday people who are part of

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the party. But from the top in the leadership positions,

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that they the leadership is basically a bunch

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 1>of privileged white What I'm saying is this, how many

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Republicans are black that are in office? No, not in

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 1>office really because in these little towns across the country

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 1>there maybe what I'm trying to tell you that's not

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I've done the study. Well, you've got the show from

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the Congress to Senate, all of these things given to

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>listen to me, Tim's they're about probably about three of them.

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>They're about three of them. But I want you to

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>understand this, and I'm telling you I've done I've done

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the study because I wanted to understand why people are

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>saying that we need to switch parties. I actually wanted

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to understand it. And I've had debates with other people

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 1>who are telling me they're black Republicans, and they cannot

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 1>name to me a double digit amount of black people

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that are are elected officials in any state in America.

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Elected officials are Republicans. But but, but there is a

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>difference between there's a difference between elected officials and the

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.439
<v Speaker 1>leadership of the party. But the leadership is even worse

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>than elected officials. What I'm saying is that I don't know.

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You are probably right, because I want

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to understand that across the country in every single state

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Senate seat and all these other city councils, but I

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>do I don't know that they don't have black people.

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you the one and they had a woman

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that just said that she felt like a black woman.

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I forgot her name and we should look it up.

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>But she was just talking about how she felt that

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>they completely were against her, that it was racism that

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>was showing everything as a black woman, a black Republican woman.

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>She was supposed to be the next of the party.

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 1>They had a lot behind her and she got out

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 1>of there. And I'm trying to tell it was about

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 1>three of that. There's some people, you know, it would

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>be really sad if you know, when you show me

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that it's really sad it. Nonetheless, in the Democratic Party, yes,

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you are right, there are many more people of color

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>who are in leadership positions. However, in terms of Senate seats,

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>not that many, Corey Kamala, it's not it's not like

0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that on the Democratic side, there's so many

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 1>more they are. But that's what I tell you. You

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 1>saying it's not that many and not that many that

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>we have is that much more than they have on

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the other side. Let's look at that because I what

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I what I think though, is that what we should

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>be saying, which would support your position a hundred percent,

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 1>is that I know for a fact Minyon more uh

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Leah Daughtry and other women who have been a part

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>of the party leadership. So there are other there are

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:36.439
<v Speaker 1>black women who are part of the party leadership, even

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 1>even black men Michael Blade, who who is everything you're saying.

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 1>But what I want you to know is that I

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 1>get it you. You don't want to go on a

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:49.280
<v Speaker 1>limb and say something because because you probably don't believe

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that what I'm saying because you liked that I'm not

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>going on I'm just saying that I think it's important

0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>for us to be clear about I'm clear because I

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 1>was listen to me because when when Kanye and these

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:04.360
<v Speaker 1>people are talking about this and that and how you

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 1>see and it goes back some time, Carol Moseley Braun,

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to say, this is what I'm talking about.

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I promise you you will. You will be surprised because

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe it that that black people was actually

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:20.719
<v Speaker 1>telling me that this is what I needed the party.

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I needed to vote for Tim Scott. I think he

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.799
<v Speaker 1>might be the only black and then. But all I'm

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 1>saying is that on the Democratic side is too So

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that one more is better than one less.

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, and I agree with you that across the

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 1>board in terms of the leadership of the Democratic Party,

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:46.319
<v Speaker 1>which is not just people in elected office. The Democratic

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Party and all parties, leadership is not just people who

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 1>have been elected to serve in a political office. There

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 1>are people who are running the different committees, There are

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 1>people who are running the party. And it is very

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>true that the diversity in the Democratic Party is much

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:08.840
<v Speaker 1>more in line with who we are and our mission

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and also much more representative of the communities that we

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>support than the Republican Party. So we're on the same

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 1>page about that. Where I was getting worried is around

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.439
<v Speaker 1>saying that all the elected officials. And I'm not saying

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong, I'm just saying that would be really sad,

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 1>but it is. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 1>If you should it's sad, I'm trying to tell you

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it's really sad because I actually googled it and I

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 1>studied it for about two days because I was like,

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>why would somebody tell me to vote for somebody that

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>never came for where I come from, don't look like me,

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have any cultural identification in me, and tell me

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that they know more about what's best for me than

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I do. Well, Okay, so then if that's the case,

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>let's see who we're gonna cross out here of the candidates.

0:52:49.880 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg definitely out, Biden out. Who else? You got Day

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>on the stage? You know, I like Tom Stire, but

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you know he might have to be he's out because

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, Bernie, if you if by your

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>definition that they don't come from where I come from,

0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 1>they don't understand my issues, almost none of them. But

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, Bernie has been in the struggle with

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:27.919
<v Speaker 1>us for years. Oh man, you can't. All I'm saying

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>is wheah, he's been. He definitely has protested, He has

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>been a part of, uh, you know, civil rights issues.

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 1>He has he has definitely carried the torch on behalf

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of the civil rights movement. Different situations and different but

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I would challenge that none of them, none of the

0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>people who are currently running for president, deserve our vote

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 1>in the way in which we have to vote for

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 1>them now because of the fact that we got to

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 1>get this. I think the only time in history I

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>felt like that was with Obama and he and he

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:11.879
<v Speaker 1>is questionable exactly, But I don't think I've ever felt

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>like somebody had to get my vote. I don't think nobody.

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:17.319
<v Speaker 1>They do have to because we have to get rid

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of try. But I'm trying to tell you I've never

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 1>felt like. The closest I felt after Obama was burning

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 1>because he spoke directly two things that his platform is

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the most it is and you know, and it's a

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>new way of thing. And he challenges the system and

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.879
<v Speaker 1>he says, look, why can't everybody go to school for free?

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Why can't anybody have health care? No, they can. We

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:42.440
<v Speaker 1>just got to make sure some of these billionaires a

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 1>little less rich, and we can support everything you want to.

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:47.320
<v Speaker 1>You'll find ways to do everything. But these are the

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:49.799
<v Speaker 1>most important things in the world. Your life and your

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:53.879
<v Speaker 1>education are the most important things. So why so why

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 1>is that's something that people have to have money to get? Like,

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make sense. So I'm with that, I hear you,

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and and today, you know what, on our next episode,

0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 1>we should really talk about these candidates we have. We

0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>haven't really talked about going on for the rest of

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the presidential cycle. Yeah, but we do need to like

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:20.880
<v Speaker 1>really analyze these different folks because it's so much happening.

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>You know that we were gonna talk about the Super

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Bowl ads. I just really wanted to throw up when

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I watched Did you watch? I don't. I don't watch

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 1>anything that has to do with Super Bowl. You can't

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 1>tell me you didn't see Shakira and j looks anything.

0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch the NFL and I don't watch Super Bowl. Oh,

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't watch the NFL either, none of the games.

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.319
<v Speaker 1>You don't support any of the teams. So why now

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>when you have been very vocal about your support for

0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:52.399
<v Speaker 1>your yeah, support for jay Z, like you really want

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to see j win. But what it is that he

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.319
<v Speaker 1>says that he's working on. I think we all want

0:55:57.360 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to see him win. I certainly do, even even the

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 1>toughest critics want to see what Jay has set forth

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to do actually come to fruition because it needs to.

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's when I will watch the NFL see I'm

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm applauding Jay because he has I'm applauding or supporting, supporting.

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not trying to change your world. I'm

0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:24.320
<v Speaker 1>saying both because to have the wirwidthal to take the

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 1>criticism about what it's going to take. The Transformer situation,

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, an organization has been historically you know, racist,

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>but has profit of black bodies and will continue to

0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 1>profit of black bodies. And to say to yourself, Okay,

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.440
<v Speaker 1>they're going to continue to profit of black bodies. So

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>how do we make it to where these black bodies

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:45.360
<v Speaker 1>have a say to where we start to create ownership

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 1>inside something that's been profit off us for years, that

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:50.480
<v Speaker 1>has labor has been profit off with you, how do

0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 1>we start to transform and start making culturally sensitive, make

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.319
<v Speaker 1>people culturally identify what our thinks. That takes a lot

0:56:57.560 --> 0:56:59.399
<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna be called every name in the world.

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 1>So I all that because everybody is not willing to

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 1>do it. Some people are willing to sit there from

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 1>their house and say, oh, you could have did this

0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and you can buy this, but they don't do nothing.

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:10.960
<v Speaker 1>So I applaud anyone willing to take those stripes, you know,

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 1>take those weapons on the back. And the reason why

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I still don't watch the NFL is because what Kaepernick

0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:20.439
<v Speaker 1>stood for what's real. You know, we are being killed

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:23.600
<v Speaker 1>at higher rates, we are being ignored, black bodies are

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:26.840
<v Speaker 1>being valued, you know, in the NFL punished him for that.

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 1>So I still have a problem with that. Although there

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 1>are there, you know, things that I've expressed that I

0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 1>have different disagreements with both of them all. But the

0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 1>reality is the Kaepernick and jay Z I have this

0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>disagreements on both of their approaches in this situation. But

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the reality is I want to see, like you said,

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to see j succeed in his his plight

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:53.080
<v Speaker 1>to try to differ, versify and change what's wrong within

0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the NFL and make it a more level player. FAIL

0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 1>want that to happen. But until I see that happening,

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>until you know, because right now there's the project. It's

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like a building a house, but I'm not gonna move

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 1>in the house while until it's built. So I'm i'm, i'm,

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm hopeful that that that he's gonna do what he

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 1>set out to do. Yesterday, I watched him after I've

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:15.760
<v Speaker 1>seen it on the Instagram and I reposted with him,

0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and Beyonce's never stood for the national anthem, so to me,

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 1>that shows that, okay, we have we're doing business, but

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the issue at hand, that America doesn't respect black people

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:28.600
<v Speaker 1>is still something that's dead to me. And I don't

0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:31.440
<v Speaker 1>want you to believe that because I've decided to come

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:33.360
<v Speaker 1>in here and try to transform this from my people

0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that I sold them out. So there's gonna be different views.

0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has a different point of view, But for me,

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not watching it until I see the work that

0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 1>they say they want to do actually get done, and

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I I aar you and I I have very deliberately

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>taking a position of not speaking too much on this

0:58:55.640 --> 0:59:00.960
<v Speaker 1>NFL situation because I also want to see what jay

0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Z is doing. Understanding it's not like my relationship with

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:09.600
<v Speaker 1>or my my. When I say relationship, I don't want

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.760
<v Speaker 1>it to to be misconstrued that I'm saying that I

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 1>have a personal relationship with jay Z, but my relationship

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:20.400
<v Speaker 1>just in terms of knowing what he's done for many

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 1>of the families in the movement, how he's been supportive

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of organizations financially and other resources that he has given

0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 1>h to support different organizations, not necessarily an organization that

0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I um was leading, but definitely I know that he's

0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:44.480
<v Speaker 1>done a lot. And so when he stepped out there

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 1>with the NFL, while I had very serious and specific

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 1>issues around some of the talking points, the optics of

0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing caps involvement, I also still feel that

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:00.800
<v Speaker 1>what he's saying, what he's trying and to do, is

1:00:01.280 --> 1:00:05.680
<v Speaker 1>really coming from a very real place. At the same time,

1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I support Colin Kaepernet and I support his movement. I

1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:12.600
<v Speaker 1>support what he stands for, and I think that the

1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:18.160
<v Speaker 1>NFL by itself, just the NFL, without all the issues,

1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the brothers, you know, jay Z, Colin Eric read all

1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:25.040
<v Speaker 1>of that, just the NFL itself is trash. That's what

1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel. So how do you reconcile all these things

1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it's difficult, and I feel that from my perspective, I

1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:36.600
<v Speaker 1>could go analyzing everything and shooting at this one and

1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:39.520
<v Speaker 1>saying what I feel about some of Colin in my opinion,

1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:42.880
<v Speaker 1>my personal opinion some of his missteps. I could go

1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:45.960
<v Speaker 1>about talking about what I feel, and all that does

1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:49.640
<v Speaker 1>is add to what I feel has been very divisive

1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:53.000
<v Speaker 1>in our communities because it has been extreme. This has

1:00:53.040 --> 1:00:57.080
<v Speaker 1>been probably one of the most divisive issues that we

1:00:57.320 --> 1:01:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that I personally have seen in a very very long time. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just don't feel like I can help by being,

1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, by being because really I'm gonna tell I

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<v Speaker 1>would say the jury is out on both sides with me,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna see what happens. I still think Colin Kaepernick

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<v Speaker 1>should have a job in the NFL, period, point blank.

1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:21.080
<v Speaker 1>He should be playing UM. But I also understand it

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bigger picture here that has to be addressed,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is how our communities. These players come from

1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:32.040
<v Speaker 1>communities that need to be supported, uplifted, UM, and so

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<v Speaker 1>how does that happen. At the same time, while you

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<v Speaker 1>deal with Collins issues, there's a lot and and everything

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<v Speaker 1>everything that we see, even in our expert places where

1:01:46.800 --> 1:01:50.760
<v Speaker 1>were all experts on different issues. We're not always able

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<v Speaker 1>to really have a conclusion, you know, So I struggle

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<v Speaker 1>internally with it. But I also sit and work with

1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Rock Nation, right like, I sit with them, and I've

1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:08.200
<v Speaker 1>been working with them to see how we can advance

1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the cause. So it's a it's a lot, but they

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<v Speaker 1>know everybody knows me. I'll still say what it is

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<v Speaker 1>that I feel, absolutely absolutely That's why I don't watch

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. But anyway, the ad that Trump hit, Trump's ad,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was interesting that there's been so much

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<v Speaker 1>turmoil between black folks and the NFL, but yet they

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<v Speaker 1>chose Trump chose the Trump chose. Trump chose two place

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<v Speaker 1>his advertisements specifically targeting black people during the show. I didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still maybe it is some numbers that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about. But the last I checked, the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>was having issues with black viewership. I don't understand why

1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:08.400
<v Speaker 1>he chose that venue to place a black ad, But

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, there's a bunch of conspiracies I could

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<v Speaker 1>come up with around how what they think about us

1:03:14.320 --> 1:03:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that sports is like the only place

1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:19.520
<v Speaker 1>where we actually pay attention. But that's a whole different conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But the advertisement basically was about criminal justice reform, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's basically touting his record on criminal justice reform. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that the First Step Act has helped to free

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<v Speaker 1>many people, uh I think they. Van Jones says like

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand people have gotten not a prison since President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has been in office. A lot of people work

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<v Speaker 1>with him on that. To Pika Sam and we are

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<v Speaker 1>all for the fact that government is doing what it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. Like, right, we that's what you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do, help to free people who shouldn't be in prison. However,

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<v Speaker 1>he uses one woman who was free. That's the woman

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<v Speaker 1>Alice Johnson, who him Kardashian support supported. He used her

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<v Speaker 1>two to create this add around and pretty much said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm the only one that can get this

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<v Speaker 1>done right, Like some people talk about criminal justice reform,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm actually making it happen. And I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>to use this black woman and her story as a

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<v Speaker 1>problem while at the same time, you participate in racist

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<v Speaker 1>behavioral patterns and put people in serious danger, and just

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<v Speaker 1>the other day blocked African countries from being able to

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<v Speaker 1>come to the United States. Put put you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>called on instant, I mean on social media hashtag the

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<v Speaker 1>African Band. It really really bothers me that you would

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<v Speaker 1>use this woman, you know what I mean. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>understand that Trump is a businessman. Everything he did a

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<v Speaker 1>strategic you know, when when he freed up from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>it was about strategy. You know, when Kim Kardashian came

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<v Speaker 1>and she's one of the most well known people in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and she pleaded with him, and when people

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of people don't understand was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of situations within Obama's administration where

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<v Speaker 1>he commuted the most people in history because they shot

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<v Speaker 1>down bills that would have allowed people like Alice to

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<v Speaker 1>be to be set free. So so when they denied

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<v Speaker 1>the bills that would would have her crime wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to she was supposed to get out. It would

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<v Speaker 1>have been hundreds of thousands of people that have been

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<v Speaker 1>out if he was trying to do it done. But

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to have those conversations, you know, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is a fact. So when he wasn't able to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>he started commuting sentences, which he was over a thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>He commuted the sentence means that he freed them and

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<v Speaker 1>he signed exact could have ordered to let the people free.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't able to get to Alice Alice Johnson before,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was on the list of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that he was supposed to be free. But people

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<v Speaker 1>don't have these conversations, they don't have real live conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But her case is so drastic when you

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<v Speaker 1>look a mother who would sent it to life for

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<v Speaker 1>drugs and things that nature, who had served how many

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<v Speaker 1>over twenties, So when you look at it, it seemed like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>she should have been there. And he utilized that to

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<v Speaker 1>play on the strings and the heart strings of America

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<v Speaker 1>to say I've done something. Look I've done that. Not

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that these judges that you put in are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make sure that most of our kids never because

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<v Speaker 1>the federal judges that they have been putting in office,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. It's like they're letting people out the

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<v Speaker 1>front door for the cameras. This is this is to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the bat and switch. What they're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>with the people that go into jail, Now, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have hell getting out of there. So they're letting people in. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>these people have been here over time. We're gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>them go. These crimes, we're commuting this. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>go into this facility from that one for the crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>the minimums are going to be raised. All of these

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<v Speaker 1>things are gonna be different because they're opening new jails

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<v Speaker 1>for a reason. They're not just opening new jails because

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we we want to stop crying. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make sure that we let people go. Know, they

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<v Speaker 1>open the new jails because they're playing the film. So

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<v Speaker 1>these are this, This is not this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a tact that that people don't understand that the Trump pulls.

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<v Speaker 1>So he knows what he's doing. He's been a reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV star, he knows reality teams media. But and and

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<v Speaker 1>and and and you know, and there's some folks that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all I care about is black people in black black

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<v Speaker 1>black black black. But you can't support a person who says,

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<v Speaker 1>I freed some folks from jail. But yet they have

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of families, Mexican families and and and African families

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<v Speaker 1>that they never really show you in the media, separated

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<v Speaker 1>at the border, with children in cages, children dying, families, dying,

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<v Speaker 1>people who have lost their children forever and will never

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<v Speaker 1>see them. But those are people they need to get.

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<v Speaker 1>So listen to me. If you're if you're smart, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>go get those people. You'll go get the exonerated five

1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:20.519
<v Speaker 1>who Trump said you deserve to get the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>Those people you get. You. We want to We want

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<v Speaker 1>to who so happy? Who are you talking to when

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<v Speaker 1>you say if y'all people want to go, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to all the presidential candidates, the rest of the presidential candidates,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to do something. He just for Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson now, and we're so happy that she's home because

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<v Speaker 1>she deserved to be home. But let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>people that he kept in cages. Let's talk about people

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<v Speaker 1>like the exonerated five that he put out full page

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<v Speaker 1>ads to say that they deserved the death penalty and never,

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<v Speaker 1>even to this day, after they were proven DNA proved

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<v Speaker 1>that they were innocent, he never even gave those men

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<v Speaker 1>and EU policy. Actually he doubled down and was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know about that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and and back to the federal Yo. The

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<v Speaker 1>federal judges piece is so important because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about rights. I don't know about the average person. Weal,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what his whole Supreme Court play was the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why he needs to stack the Supreme Court is because

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<v Speaker 1>and even he said, in reference to impeachment and other

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<v Speaker 1>things around um, you know where where he's been found

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<v Speaker 1>to be engaging in criminal activity. He even said, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take it to the highest court. You know why,

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<v Speaker 1>because he knows that the court is stacked. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>really in his favor yet. And God, let's hope that

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<v Speaker 1>Ruth vaders Ginsberg that she stays as healthy as she can.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to stay healthy just so she

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<v Speaker 1>can hold the court, but in general, but but he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stack that court with Supreme Court nominations and

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court excuse me, confirmed seat that will give the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party the upper hand with the courts, so that

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<v Speaker 1>whenever there are major cases like Roe v. Wade, which

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<v Speaker 1>would uh reverse abortion and other really important things that

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<v Speaker 1>they find to be problematic. They don't want us women

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<v Speaker 1>to have our rights, civil rights, you know, all these

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<v Speaker 1>different things that people fought, live, died for. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to turn those things back. They know that the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court can do it, and so that's one level. But

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<v Speaker 1>you also need the federal courts to advance these things

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<v Speaker 1>to the dan on Supreme Court. So they're stacking. Were

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<v Speaker 1>playing chess, you know what y'all say, were playing check

1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and they playing chess. We all were arguing about, you know,

1:10:46.680 --> 1:10:49.679
<v Speaker 1>who don't like cool? And did they did Bernie say

1:10:49.800 --> 1:10:52.719
<v Speaker 1>this to Elizabeth? And what she thinks? And she's a lion,

1:10:52.960 --> 1:10:56.000
<v Speaker 1>he's this, and and and Bloomberg's ugly and so and

1:10:56.120 --> 1:11:00.200
<v Speaker 1>so is this. Biden is nibbling on his wife his

1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:03.760
<v Speaker 1>finger while at an event in front of everybody. I mean,

1:11:03.960 --> 1:11:06.800
<v Speaker 1>we're going through we're dealing with all of that. Meanwhile,

1:11:07.000 --> 1:11:10.920
<v Speaker 1>these people are in power positions, putting people in place

1:11:11.040 --> 1:11:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to be able that when Trump is long gone, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have changed things in our constitution. They would have

1:11:17.560 --> 1:11:21.200
<v Speaker 1>reversed very serious rites. As you said, this is some

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<v Speaker 1>serious ship. It's very serious. Extremely it's super serious. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to take it serious. Man. You know, you know

1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Trump is such a dangerous but hilarious person. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at what you know, it's hilarious because he congratulated.

1:11:38.080 --> 1:11:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch the super Bowl, but you know I've

1:11:40.200 --> 1:11:44.439
<v Speaker 1>seen that. He congratulated Kansas City on their huge win

1:11:44.920 --> 1:11:49.400
<v Speaker 1>by saying, you represented the great state of Kansas. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, the entire U said he so very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Our country is proud of you. Now as a president,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody of just grade school you would know that Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City is not in Kansas. You know, that's just. But

1:12:05.680 --> 1:12:08.200
<v Speaker 1>this is the president. The president of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know that Kansas City is not in Kansas. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is the person that's the leader of the free world.

1:12:14.479 --> 1:12:17.519
<v Speaker 1>It was a post. I mean, it's just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a scary thing. And I think my final point

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<v Speaker 1>that I would would just make. Yeah, but I mean

1:12:25.439 --> 1:12:27.439
<v Speaker 1>it is, Lord have mercy. It's serious and you know,

1:12:27.520 --> 1:12:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and Lord have mercy on us. I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>coming into the studio today and I passed a man

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<v Speaker 1>in the train station who was sitting there and his

1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:43.559
<v Speaker 1>legs was just riddled with swords and he just looked sick.

1:12:43.720 --> 1:12:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean he first of all, he was swollen to

1:12:46.000 --> 1:12:48.439
<v Speaker 1>this disease and his body and he was big, and

1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:51.400
<v Speaker 1>he had swords everywhere on his body. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at him and I started praying loudly, Lord

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<v Speaker 1>help us, like help us, like, why have thou forsake

1:13:00.000 --> 1:13:03.639
<v Speaker 1>in us? Like what is this? You know? Because he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of so many people, the homeless. This in New

1:13:07.479 --> 1:13:11.599
<v Speaker 1>York and across the country is out of control. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is diverse, because I obviously I saw a white couple.

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<v Speaker 1>I passed them all of the both of us from beholders.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true. I give this white couple. They sleep

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground on the street in New York, and

1:13:22.840 --> 1:13:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I give them every time I see them. And the

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<v Speaker 1>woman now she knows me, She's like, yeah, man, how

1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you doing? You know, But it's a lot of our people,

1:13:31.080 --> 1:13:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of black people who are out here, homeless,

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<v Speaker 1>young people. And Fordham Road on the Bronx and the

1:13:37.200 --> 1:13:41.519
<v Speaker 1>for On in Fordham Road on for the road in

1:13:41.680 --> 1:13:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the Bronx, there's a little circle and Cardi Beak gets

1:13:46.080 --> 1:13:48.080
<v Speaker 1>her nails done there, so you know, I know about that.

1:13:48.240 --> 1:13:50.600
<v Speaker 1>So I was going to coming from going to the

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<v Speaker 1>nail salon one day, trying out her person and as

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<v Speaker 1>I was walking through this little square in the middle

1:13:55.280 --> 1:13:57.479
<v Speaker 1>it's a big shopping center for people who don't know,

1:13:57.560 --> 1:13:59.679
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of stores, A lot of folks go there.

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<v Speaker 1>There were so many young people early in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping on the benches all over the park, all over

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<v Speaker 1>the part was young people I'm talking about eight years old,

1:14:08.960 --> 1:14:12.600
<v Speaker 1>nine years old, their homeless, sleeping in the park. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, this issue of black people in

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<v Speaker 1>America still being considered slaves, that we don't have our

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<v Speaker 1>full rights, that we don't we're still in the constitution

1:14:27.600 --> 1:14:31.080
<v Speaker 1>considered to be three five human that has never been changed.

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<v Speaker 1>We we think about the thirteenth Amendment, which says that

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<v Speaker 1>we are free unless we commit a crime and end

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<v Speaker 1>up in prison, in which at that point you can

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<v Speaker 1>be uh sentenced if you will, to indrt indentured servitude,

1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:51.800
<v Speaker 1>which is how we end up making products for every corporation,

1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:54.880
<v Speaker 1>answering the phone for the d m V. We're in

1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:58.120
<v Speaker 1>in prisons working and when you get out of prison

1:14:58.240 --> 1:15:00.640
<v Speaker 1>because you have a criminal background, can't even get a

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<v Speaker 1>job for the same company you were working for while

1:15:02.840 --> 1:15:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you were in prison. The deck is stacked against us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's stacked against us, and you know, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>time to play around. That's why you try to make

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<v Speaker 1>light laugh at it, because I, like I told you,

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<v Speaker 1>like I watched it and it's a sham, just watching

1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:23.080
<v Speaker 1>this impeachment trial is a sham, Like this man is

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<v Speaker 1>literally running the White House like it's the mafia, Like

1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:29.559
<v Speaker 1>it's not even a joke, Like he's running with mafia rules,

1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:32.680
<v Speaker 1>like he's running it like it's against the organization. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that's what we're dealing with. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at what's funny was him and Bloomberger started

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<v Speaker 1>to have this exchange. You know, Bloomberger is somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. Definitely we're not found, especially from New York.

1:15:46.160 --> 1:15:48.880
<v Speaker 1>You understand he's stopping frisk and how those things have

1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:52.800
<v Speaker 1>definitely played black people in our in our city. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at the tactics, they both have the

1:15:55.680 --> 1:15:59.559
<v Speaker 1>same mentality because they both Bloomberg pretty much gangster New York.

1:15:59.640 --> 1:16:02.280
<v Speaker 1>He said, know what, I don't want to get my terms.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna change like he knows. But you got to

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<v Speaker 1>explain that quickly because we gotta wrap it up. But

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta explain when you say he because everybody we're

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<v Speaker 1>not you know what I'm saying. Basically, prior to Bloomberg,

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<v Speaker 1>you were only able to run for two terms. You yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you occupied occupied the mayor seat for two terms, and

1:16:21.200 --> 1:16:27.200
<v Speaker 1>he somehow enacted some law. He changed, he changed policy,

1:16:27.640 --> 1:16:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and they made him he was able to have three

1:16:30.160 --> 1:16:33.599
<v Speaker 1>terms as a mayor. So this is what Trump is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is familiar to Bloomberg. So Bloomberg is using

1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the same exact tactics he's talking about somebody. Bloomberg is

1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:43.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about his head and talking about his skin, and

1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:46.840
<v Speaker 1>he's he's using the same he's using the pigpin tactics. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>He's going they go like Michelle Obama said, when they

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<v Speaker 1>go low, we go high. No blue work. When they

1:16:53.160 --> 1:16:55.719
<v Speaker 1>go low, we just go at. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So and this is and I tell people all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it's gonna take the beat Trump, you cannot

1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:04.240
<v Speaker 1>be politically correct. You cannot be this calm, savvy person,

1:17:04.360 --> 1:17:07.760
<v Speaker 1>because he is talking to a demographic of people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't give a fuck. Like literally, they fed up, they're mad,

1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:14.680
<v Speaker 1>they've been feeling like their country has been taken over

1:17:14.800 --> 1:17:18.400
<v Speaker 1>by these immigrants and bodies blacks and people being celebrated.

1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:21.880
<v Speaker 1>He's saying, nah, we're gonna get this back. So and

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody ain't over here talking today, based the same

1:17:24.720 --> 1:17:27.880
<v Speaker 1>way he's talking to his you cannot beat this man.

1:17:28.000 --> 1:17:30.599
<v Speaker 1>I want you to understand this. This man is playing

1:17:30.640 --> 1:17:33.600
<v Speaker 1>a game. You gotta take the gloves off. He is

1:17:33.640 --> 1:17:39.280
<v Speaker 1>a celebrity um can artist. The man is a car artist.

1:17:40.360 --> 1:17:43.559
<v Speaker 1>He has Listen to me. This man is they got

1:17:43.640 --> 1:17:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a rapist in the White House. He got he got

1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:50.040
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people who have accused him. I mean, I'm

1:17:50.080 --> 1:17:56.559
<v Speaker 1>not accused him of criminal activities like there's double digit

1:17:56.760 --> 1:17:59.960
<v Speaker 1>rape people who have accused him. He has. He has

1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:03.840
<v Speaker 1>us over hundreds of accusations of crimes, different types of

1:18:04.040 --> 1:18:07.000
<v Speaker 1>different types of from the people who worked for him.

1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:12.240
<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't pay them a black folks said he treated

1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:14.360
<v Speaker 1>them like garbage while they worked in the Trump and

1:18:14.439 --> 1:18:19.000
<v Speaker 1>his different trump Um facilities. I mean he immigrants have

1:18:19.280 --> 1:18:22.200
<v Speaker 1>issues with him that he had the Trump University which

1:18:22.360 --> 1:18:25.360
<v Speaker 1>ended up being a sham. And it's crazy how you

1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:29.840
<v Speaker 1>can have a college if you will, some educational institution

1:18:30.160 --> 1:18:34.479
<v Speaker 1>that stole from people, that wasn't accredited, all these different things,

1:18:34.800 --> 1:18:36.519
<v Speaker 1>and then you have to pay all these people back

1:18:36.600 --> 1:18:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and still be the president. It's no way Obama could

1:18:39.840 --> 1:18:47.960
<v Speaker 1>have done that. We can listen to me. Next inequity

1:18:49.080 --> 1:18:51.840
<v Speaker 1>inadequacies of Donald Trump. We can we can have a

1:18:51.920 --> 1:18:54.680
<v Speaker 1>whole podcast. It really needs to be we're gonna move on,

1:18:55.080 --> 1:18:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of wand down and we're gonna get

1:18:58.080 --> 1:19:02.200
<v Speaker 1>down to my I don't get it. I don't get it.

1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I just don't get it. You know. When we

1:19:04.160 --> 1:19:06.960
<v Speaker 1>were talking, we were talking about my mixtape, and we're

1:19:06.960 --> 1:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about certain other things where their support where we

1:19:11.120 --> 1:19:14.200
<v Speaker 1>need supporting the movement and in certain things like we do.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people behind closed doors that come

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<v Speaker 1>to us and tell us how good a job that

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing, and they give us hugs, and they they

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<v Speaker 1>want to pick your brain, and they want to have

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with you, and they want to figure out and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to do all these things in privately, they

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<v Speaker 1>silently and privately celebrate you, but they never publicly support you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just don't get that. Like to me, that's

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<v Speaker 1>very like I don't understand why. How do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're in the positions because most of the people

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking about there in positions to to to just

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<v Speaker 1>give a kind word. If they if they would tweak

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<v Speaker 1>about something that you were doing most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it could change your tax bracket, it could change your

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<v Speaker 1>whole life, It could change the struggle that you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>going through. It could change, it could elevate them moment,

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<v Speaker 1>But most of these people don't do it. They'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how they love what you do, they tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how they celebrate you, how dope of a person you are,

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<v Speaker 1>how they really um feel you and they love you,

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<v Speaker 1>but they will never ever support you publicly. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't get that. And you know, and I want you,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you at home to really come back, because

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<v Speaker 1>we've had this conversation all the time. Like we go

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<v Speaker 1>places and you know, based on the work that we

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<v Speaker 1>do that is is really authentic and comes from a

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<v Speaker 1>place of us really just want to see our people

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<v Speaker 1>in better positions. We travel a lot and we see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, celebrities who come up and they

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<v Speaker 1>talk to us and tell us, you know, I love

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<v Speaker 1>the work you're doing to do this. But these same

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities and people in power, they haven't done anything to

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<v Speaker 1>help the work that we do. They haven't done anything

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<v Speaker 1>to make the work that we do any easier, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really it pains me. I don't you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any obligation to it. None of us have any

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<v Speaker 1>obligation to anyone but I just want to understand, if

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<v Speaker 1>you celebrate somebody, if you say you believe in them,

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<v Speaker 1>if you say you respect them, and you say that

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing is so dope, why don't you see

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<v Speaker 1>the need to publicly, publicly I'm gonna say it again,

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<v Speaker 1>publicly support those people. I don't get it either. So

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<v Speaker 1>I have nothing to say on that, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a hurtful thing when you know that people

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<v Speaker 1>who you would imagine, and it's worse when you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody cares about you and they don't support you.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I found over time that God will

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<v Speaker 1>just help you see things you need to know and

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<v Speaker 1>make your circle tighter and stronger, because those who have

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<v Speaker 1>been with us have really been with us, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many we can't even name. So you know, God,

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<v Speaker 1>what what what's the what's the thing? You always say

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<v Speaker 1>this about when God sent the vote for Noah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was for Noah, and he sent them to the

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<v Speaker 1>vote at first he sent him what it wasn't no

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<v Speaker 1>it was no, wait a minute, Noah's are hold on?

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that just it was just it just it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tail where they said, oh, it's a tail. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bible because I beat that thing. So but

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<v Speaker 1>basically God sent it was a man that was on

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<v Speaker 1>the sea and he kept he was waiting for God.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, God's gonna save me. So he sent the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>So he sent the boat and he was like, get on.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, no, God's gonna save me, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he sent somebody in a little canoe and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>God's gonna save me. And he said a big ship,

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<v Speaker 1>A big ship, a helicopter. He said, no, waiting on God,

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<v Speaker 1>and he drowned. Thing that they put they sent down

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<v Speaker 1>the vote like I said, no, I don't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>God's gonna save me. And he said when he died,

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<v Speaker 1>he drowned and he said, God talk preacher, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, God, I thought you was gonna say it

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<v Speaker 1>was waiting for you to come save me. Said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I sent you a boat. I sent you a helicopter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I said you could do you ain't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the more of the story is, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>never know what help looks like, and we just got

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to to see it when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>right and not worry about what who isn't but be

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for what God does, and I mean I'm grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for those who support us in private or people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't support us. But I'm not that type of person.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. If I say I'm gonna do something, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm authentic. If I say that I care for you,

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<v Speaker 1>if I say that I support you, then I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let the world know. But for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>not that way and you want to secretly support us,

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<v Speaker 1>we take donations. You know what I'm saying. You want

1:23:34.320 --> 1:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to give private donations, and that type of secret I

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<v Speaker 1>can deal with, but don't secretly do nothing. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. If you want to give secret donations,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't secretly do nothing. But we appreciate donations until Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go to until Freedom page and you can

1:23:49.720 --> 1:23:53.360
<v Speaker 1>donati until Freedom right now. Because the work is always

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be fun, ongoing. So we're gonna wrap it

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<v Speaker 1>up another episode. Like we said it. You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>always agree, We're not gonna always be right, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna always be old. Yeah, that's how we owned it.