Speaker 1: That's how It's your boy, my son, and I'm Tamika D.
Speaker 1: Mallory and this is Street Politicians with the Streets in
Speaker 1: Politics meet. Yes, sir, Yes, sir. It's been good. It's
Speaker 1: been it's been a four week man our last podcast.
Speaker 1: It has been a full week, full week going on
Speaker 1: happen and this weekend wow everything who we you know,
Speaker 1: we was working, but we did. We worked a lot
Speaker 1: this week until Freedom, our baby, our organization is coming
Speaker 1: together and a lot of people asking like they're like,
Speaker 1: how did all of this happen? Right Like everyere we go,
Speaker 1: people are like, what's the story of how Street Politicians
Speaker 1: came about? Also until Freedom, and just the story of
Speaker 1: how we came together in general. And it's been it's
Speaker 1: been a six year about six years, six plush years, man,
Speaker 1: just working just you know, I tell people all the time, man,
Speaker 1: sometimes you meet people, sometimes you have situations and it's
Speaker 1: just a calling, you know what I'm saying. You were
Speaker 1: already doing the work and I was fresh out of prison,
Speaker 1: just trying to find not really fresh out of prison,
Speaker 1: but home from prison for a while and still just
Speaker 1: trying to find my space doing music. I was doing
Speaker 1: personal training, you know, I was just utilizing every attribute
Speaker 1: that I had to try to create a lane, you know.
Speaker 1: And we were connected event at a service event. Shout
Speaker 1: out to my homegirl media who had called me to
Speaker 1: do a service event on a Christmas and you were there.
Speaker 1: You also wanted to organize that and Shane that set
Speaker 1: up to Shane. There was a lot of people there,
Speaker 1: Kruchi was there, was there, Karuchi was there, Free, Jennifer Williams,
Speaker 1: a lot of different people. Shanda was there, you know,
Speaker 1: shout out to I knew Machanda for years, but we
Speaker 1: just started to vibe. And then that's when you want
Speaker 1: to do personal training because I was a personal trainer
Speaker 1: and while we were I was training, I started telling
Speaker 1: you about the music that exactly and then and then
Speaker 1: we listened to it as our background music. I was
Speaker 1: playing the music. He's like, Yo, this is dope. And
Speaker 1: then I'll let you here this one piece that I
Speaker 1: did for Trader on Mother's Trade, on Martin's Mother Sorry,
Speaker 1: and you were like, you know that is so beautiful.
Speaker 1: I actually know her. Send it to her and she
Speaker 1: fell in love in love with me. And then he
Speaker 1: was like, I knew my homegirl calm and goes into
Speaker 1: the tender centers and she works with these these you
Speaker 1: dope for. You introduced me to her next thing. I know,
Speaker 1: we were Injustice League. I was in the Middle Street
Speaker 1: at a march for your first protests, protests, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's been a good you know, right, But it's
Speaker 1: time for us to really bring all of what we
Speaker 1: have to the forefront so that you know, we've done
Speaker 1: a lot to serve other people, which we will always
Speaker 1: with our organizations that were member burds of and you know,
Speaker 1: and just all of these other things that we do
Speaker 1: all the time to support other people's visions. But now
Speaker 1: our vision is coming to the forefront. And we love
Speaker 1: our Until Freedom Families, specifically our co founders Linda Sarsul
Speaker 1: and Angelo Pinto. All the time, we all argue, so
Speaker 1: we do, and I think that's where greatness comes from.
Speaker 1: I think when you debate with someone and you have
Speaker 1: a different point of view and you're able to at
Speaker 1: least let them understand your point of view, and then
Speaker 1: you come together and you form like votum. Because everybody
Speaker 1: does different things, we have different entry points into this
Speaker 1: work and into this movement, but we all have the
Speaker 1: same goal, you know. So it's like until freedom is
Speaker 1: like a one stop shop for everything. You have people
Speaker 1: who we have a lawyer, Angelo is a lawyer. You
Speaker 1: have Linda who who specifically does policy, and she is,
Speaker 1: you know, in tune with the Muslim community, with the
Speaker 1: Palestine community. She is like she pretty much in her
Speaker 1: book is dropping her book. Does a lot happen, But
Speaker 1: it's been a good ride to get to this place.
Speaker 1: And we have to give love to our sister, our
Speaker 1: big sister mentor she's not that big though. She's still
Speaker 1: a little snack pack cat Triggs. Snack pack Cat Trigg,
Speaker 1: you need to write the snack trick you need to
Speaker 1: check out. But we love our our woman TV family.
Speaker 1: And so, like I said, this weekend in particular was loaded.
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff was happening. We ended the week
Speaker 1: last week with the Senate voting against bringing witnesses to
Speaker 1: the impeachment trial for Donald Trump. I mean that's a sham.
Speaker 1: Like this whole impeachment trial to me is a sham.
Speaker 1: And and I get it because us we have to
Speaker 1: let the world see this, like it has to be
Speaker 1: documented how far they're willing to go to really undermine
Speaker 1: the government Constitution is being thrown out right now. To
Speaker 1: really see this, like when you really watched this in
Speaker 1: real time, it's like you're sitting there and you confused,
Speaker 1: like is this really what's happened? Because I know if
Speaker 1: this was me and you, we would be under the jail. Well,
Speaker 1: let's save the conversation later because we really need to
Speaker 1: get into it. But you know that happened, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're coming out of the week or
Speaker 1: ending the week with the impeachment stuff just being as
Speaker 1: you said, a sham. And then I received a text
Speaker 1: message actually from Angelo, our partners, saying Bloomberg might make
Speaker 1: the debate stage. Now. The rules for the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: had been that you have to have thousands of donations
Speaker 1: from everyday people before you can make it to the
Speaker 1: debate stage. Right now, all the people of color gone,
Speaker 1: Corey's gone gone. What's his I was about to call
Speaker 1: him Fidel Lord Jesus Julian Castro is on all the
Speaker 1: people of color gone? And now because because they well
Speaker 1: they didn't meet the criterias because they were on the
Speaker 1: debate stage. But it was becoming more and more of
Speaker 1: a struggle financially the support that they need Corey was
Speaker 1: having a hard time getting his whole numbers up. And
Speaker 1: you also have to be at least at four percent
Speaker 1: UMU polling at four percent in order for you to
Speaker 1: to be to make the debate stage. So you know,
Speaker 1: they were having some issues and challenges there. But these folks,
Speaker 1: all of them are gone, and now Bloomberg enters the race. Besides,
Speaker 1: he opts out of taking any political any donations from
Speaker 1: just the outside public. He's paying for his campaign himself,
Speaker 1: pouring mills and millions of dollars okay, okay in advertisement right,
Speaker 1: and he's now eligible to be in the debate because
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party has changed the rules now I mean
Speaker 1: it just anyway, We talked about that later. Um, the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ads a lot of mixed feelings out there
Speaker 1: about the ads. We can talk about the NFL UM
Speaker 1: ads where the Inspired Change which is their initiative, that
Speaker 1: is it sort of comes out of the Colin Kaepernick
Speaker 1: UM situation, a Colin Kaepernick protests UM and and so
Speaker 1: Inspired Change is supposed to bring the issues that the
Speaker 1: players have to the forefront along with the players coalition,
Speaker 1: and so they had an advertisement that was shown uh
Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl. This year that people have different
Speaker 1: feelings about. Um. And then, and of course you had
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. He had an ad where he specifically targeted
Speaker 1: the black community around criminal justice reform. To me, it
Speaker 1: was extremely disgusting. But that's a whole different conversation. Um.
Speaker 1: And then I want to make sure I say this
Speaker 1: brother's name properly, Javonta Javonte Javonte Davis, who is a
Speaker 1: my our buddy. Chili keeps telling me that he is
Speaker 1: a star played a star boxer. What does that mean?
Speaker 1: It means that he's pretty much ranked in the top
Speaker 1: ten in the world in boxing, and is he's like
Speaker 1: on the road to be number one? Like he's Floyd Mayweathers.
Speaker 1: I remember last month because I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out who he who he is? And I remember last
Speaker 1: month all that who's who was out looking good going
Speaker 1: to a boxing match in Atlanta and it was him. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Um, he basically snatched his baby mama, as they say,
Speaker 1: but I'd like to say his daughter's mother off of
Speaker 1: her out of her seat at some type of event.
Speaker 1: Looked like it was a sporting event. There were a
Speaker 1: number of TMT event uh signs around, But he snatched
Speaker 1: her out of her seat by her collar. Some people
Speaker 1: say his hand was around her throat. I'm not sure exactly,
Speaker 1: but definitely he was in that area. UM. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of controversy online about that UM, you know,
Speaker 1: and just what it means and what it looks like
Speaker 1: and the whole thing. So we can talk about that,
Speaker 1: UM and then you know, last but not least, perhaps
Speaker 1: we won't get an opportunity to really really get into it.
Speaker 1: But I think it's important for us to mention that
Speaker 1: the coronavirus is spreading, that there is now another possible
Speaker 1: case in New York one, that one case has been
Speaker 1: confirmed in Boston. UM. I remember checking the numbers last
Speaker 1: week at some point and it was eleven thousand and
Speaker 1: one publication. By the time time I checked again last night,
Speaker 1: they said fourteen thousand people in China specifically are excuse me,
Speaker 1: have been affected by this virus. UH. And now we
Speaker 1: have more cases here in in the US somewhere it
Speaker 1: said nine, now it says twelve. So not sure, but
Speaker 1: people really need to stay protected, pay attention, and if
Speaker 1: you feel like you're sick, go to the doctor and
Speaker 1: get yourself checked, and and and just right now, we're
Speaker 1: hearing from our producers that they're seventeen thousand at this point.
Speaker 1: So again I checked last week, eleven thousand. By the
Speaker 1: time I checked yesterday fourteen thousand, and now today we're
Speaker 1: hearing seventeen thousand people UH and eleven in the US.
Speaker 1: So this is very serious and and I think the
Speaker 1: important thing for us to know. I was reading the
Speaker 1: New York Times article um this weekend that talked about
Speaker 1: how China was aware that this UH virus was spreading.
Speaker 1: They knew it, and in fact they chastised doctors who
Speaker 1: were speaking about it too, people who were outside of
Speaker 1: the hospital. So there was one they tried to keep.
Speaker 1: But this is China operates on secrecy, hashash silence. They
Speaker 1: don't like to talk, you know that as I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the Chinese government, not Chinese people, so let's be
Speaker 1: real clear about that. But they operate on you know, silency.
Speaker 1: Nobody don't want anyone in their business. You know, we
Speaker 1: don't really talk publicly about what's going on within our country.
Speaker 1: And in fact, there was a doctor who was quarantined
Speaker 1: on a particular floor with people who had the virus
Speaker 1: or who have the virus, and he texted some friends
Speaker 1: who are also in the medical field and said to them,
Speaker 1: I'm quarantined doing such and such floor this is very
Speaker 1: akin to stars. It's a real big situation. And when
Speaker 1: and of course those people went around telling folks, and
Speaker 1: when the hospital found out about it, they chastised him
Speaker 1: and then made him sign some type of legal documentation
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't talk about it anymore. So as a
Speaker 1: result of them not doing what was necessary and making
Speaker 1: sure that other governments knew about it so people could
Speaker 1: do the things that we see now where they shut
Speaker 1: down travel, and and also just inform people if you're
Speaker 1: going to China, know that this is happening. Because they
Speaker 1: didn't do that, it's spreading across the country and you know,
Speaker 1: who knows what we what's going to end up happening.
Speaker 1: So these governments have power over our lives. It's really serious, man.
Speaker 1: We gotta pray for the people in China. That's seventeen thousand.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people who seventeen thousand people. I
Speaker 1: keep hearing about the coronavirus and they're saying, how many
Speaker 1: people are actually dying? Is this is this? So? Is
Speaker 1: it mutating to this point? Where they're dying instantly or
Speaker 1: is it something that is potentially between nine people? And
Speaker 1: that's that my last check, and I was off already
Speaker 1: to three thousand people. Two fifty nine people had died.
Speaker 1: No one in the US has died from the virus,
Speaker 1: so you know, it seems like it is treatable. But
Speaker 1: you know, still again, how it happened, how it's spreading,
Speaker 1: what information. A lot of conversations we had about that.
Speaker 1: So I guess we'll start with my thought of the day.
Speaker 1: I mentioned you said, Jervonte Giant Davis the Boxer, and
Speaker 1: I'm really troubled, Mice, Like, I'm really, really, really troubled
Speaker 1: because I posted what I had I saw on the
Speaker 1: Shade Room and ball Alert and all of these different sites.
Speaker 1: I saw that this incident happened. So you know me,
Speaker 1: whenever I see a black woman being mistreated, I'm always like,
Speaker 1: my little spidy sence this peak up and I'm ready
Speaker 1: to go because I know that, as Malcolm X said,
Speaker 1: the black woman is the most unprotected, disrespected person in
Speaker 1: the world. And so as I looked at it and
Speaker 1: I saw it, and for the first time in a
Speaker 1: long time, I decided I wasn't going to say much
Speaker 1: because you know, people always accuse me you so, you know,
Speaker 1: you always bashing black men and this and that, and
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm not gonna say anything yet.
Speaker 1: I was gonna wait until this was in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night. So I'm like, let me wait until
Speaker 1: I talk to you and you know, brothers and and
Speaker 1: just be like, yo, do y'all see this. Maybe you
Speaker 1: could lead the conversation on how this is, how this
Speaker 1: happened and what it looks like. And then I saw
Speaker 1: his Instagram comments which he said, I didn't you know,
Speaker 1: Oh y'all relaxed. Basically, yeah, I was aggressive, but I
Speaker 1: didn't hit her and I would never abuse her or
Speaker 1: heard her like that. But anyway, Happy New Year's and
Speaker 1: January was trash, so that was it for me. And
Speaker 1: the other thing I saw was he was out with
Speaker 1: some of your friends partying the night after it happened.
Speaker 1: Because these are your friends. They were hanging out the
Speaker 1: night of after this incident happen, partying. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: in in you know, in defense of the deck, and
Speaker 1: then you got it. I'm gonna let you take it
Speaker 1: away from it. My thought of the day was around
Speaker 1: when I saw his comment. I posted it and I said,
Speaker 1: it's someone going to tell him that this is violence
Speaker 1: and that this is abuse and it was wrong? Is
Speaker 1: anybody gonna tell him that? And and and of course
Speaker 1: over two thousand comments are now on my page. Most
Speaker 1: of them, I will say, you know, I would say
Speaker 1: like se and that's a low rating to me. Our
Speaker 1: feet are people in general who are like, it's wrong,
Speaker 1: it's abuse, is wrong, what have you? And I have
Speaker 1: to also say I am very very grateful and humbled
Speaker 1: by the amount of black men who are on my
Speaker 1: page saying full stop, no, it's wrong, period. But there
Speaker 1: is another thirty of women and men and a lot
Speaker 1: of women not saying more, but a lot of women
Speaker 1: who were saying all he did was him up a
Speaker 1: little bit, like you know what I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: really that serious, like come on me, shut up. But
Speaker 1: we have to get into this. But the question thought
Speaker 1: of the day, which I still haven't gotten to, is
Speaker 1: we need to have, first of all, a big conversation
Speaker 1: about domestic violence. And then the real question is like
Speaker 1: why don't other people see this as abuse? Like what
Speaker 1: is happening that we don't see that as abuse. Well,
Speaker 1: what we don't see, why we don't see that as abuse.
Speaker 1: I believe in what I say is we've normalized abnormality,
Speaker 1: especially in this culture, in the culture that we live
Speaker 1: it in. Like you'll watch because this is common. This
Speaker 1: is not an abnormal thing. You'd be in the club
Speaker 1: if somebody sees their girl talking and somebody you'll see
Speaker 1: somebody grab a pull, or you'll see girls hit their
Speaker 1: man and people laugh and they put the memes up
Speaker 1: and there's never really any seriousness because it has been
Speaker 1: normalized in our culture, is it right? Of course not.
Speaker 1: I come from a family of which i've I've witnessed,
Speaker 1: you know, domestic abuse, so I understand the seriousness of it.
Speaker 1: But there is a dynamic and a demographic within our
Speaker 1: culture who have normalized this, who used to getting him.
Speaker 1: They see their man and they argue, and they put
Speaker 1: their hands on a man and he grabs on and
Speaker 1: they shake each other, and this is how they express
Speaker 1: some level of love. This is a normal thing that
Speaker 1: I've seen done numerous times with couples who who you
Speaker 1: see together the next day and they didn't get into nothing.
Speaker 1: They laugh about it, like, yeah, I was about to
Speaker 1: break his neck, or yeah she she no better than me.
Speaker 1: I had to him up a look, this is normal,
Speaker 1: especially within our culture right now? Is it right? No?
Speaker 1: But is it normal? You see that you have thirty
Speaker 1: percent of people who see that this is something that's
Speaker 1: they used to it. They they're like, come on, I
Speaker 1: wasn't like he you sort he said, oh, come on,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do nothing like that because to him, just
Speaker 1: grabbing her like that wasn't anything that was abusive. There
Speaker 1: was no level of abuse to It was just him
Speaker 1: explaining to her how he was mad. This is how
Speaker 1: he was able to express. If he didn't punch her,
Speaker 1: if he didn't hit up, it was okay. And I've
Speaker 1: argued with men on my page who have watched men
Speaker 1: fully beat women and said, well, she hit him first,
Speaker 1: or she's done this like beat up like she's So
Speaker 1: the mind state is way different because the big question
Speaker 1: that folks had is what did she do? What did
Speaker 1: she do to make him respond this way? You know?
Speaker 1: What was? What was? Who was she there? With? What she's?
Speaker 1: Then someone said, well he is escorted her out and
Speaker 1: he probably told her to get up via text or whatever,
Speaker 1: and she didn't go, and therefore he had to escort
Speaker 1: her out. So I'm just trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: people see someone grabbing you by the neck or by
Speaker 1: your collar and forcefully lifting you out your chair to
Speaker 1: be escorting, because escorting to me means you arm in arm,
Speaker 1: and I can only I can imagine if you're doing
Speaker 1: something crazy, or maybe she texts him something crazy, or
Speaker 1: she was out doing god knows what. Maybe he saw
Speaker 1: her on somebody's stories kicking in and too much and
Speaker 1: you know whatever, who knows. I could even imagine him
Speaker 1: walking up to her and an arm in arm telling
Speaker 1: her like, we're getting out of here right now. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pistol off this that in the third we're
Speaker 1: gonna discuss this or whatever. I could see that, but
Speaker 1: he grabbed. This is a man who is a boxer,
Speaker 1: who's his hands are considered to be lethal weapons. Still,
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm trying to tell you. I get it,
Speaker 1: But I also get that. There's I'm telling you. You
Speaker 1: can go in the average club and see those type
Speaker 1: of situations happen all day and people normalize it. The
Speaker 1: police could be there, the bouncers. The police won't even
Speaker 1: they won't even get involved in they won't unless most
Speaker 1: of the time they just walk away. They're not going
Speaker 1: to say there's a domestic dispute. If he was grabbing
Speaker 1: his girlfriend by the colin pulling up, they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: calm down, they're not going to rest they immediately because
Speaker 1: it's normalized within our culture. And I understand what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but I think we have to really look and be
Speaker 1: serious about our analysis of this situation because most people,
Speaker 1: especially in the hip hop culture, this is a normal thing.
Speaker 1: But see, but that okay. So that brings me to
Speaker 1: my point on and what I and what I said,
Speaker 1: because I think on the Shade Room, I said, when
Speaker 1: I saw your friends having a good time with him
Speaker 1: at the club, later on, I said, no one's gonna
Speaker 1: tell him that what he did was wrong. And I
Speaker 1: a video and I totally respect that, right I do.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like that's one of the biggest
Speaker 1: problems that we have, is allowing people around us to
Speaker 1: get away with things that we really should be like,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to hang out with you right
Speaker 1: now if I think that's possible that you're abusive. Now
Speaker 1: check this out. A woman sent me a d M afterwards,
Speaker 1: telling me about another incident with someone very close to
Speaker 1: her and him. And then someone else came on my
Speaker 1: page and said some other girl named Ari that I'm
Speaker 1: not sure who that is, another uh celebrity or whatever
Speaker 1: you know, influence, whatever you want to call her. That
Speaker 1: she said he came to her hotel and kicked her door,
Speaker 1: tried to kick her door in, saying that he was
Speaker 1: gonna beat her ass. Right, So now there's been there,
Speaker 1: I mean, but what happens is now he's opened up
Speaker 1: Pandora's box, like and this is what usually happened. If
Speaker 1: you're an abusive person, then it usually comes out if
Speaker 1: you've abused somebody before, and even the most minute situations
Speaker 1: like this can open uncovered. And you know, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I wish that is wrong. I wish that
Speaker 1: um that these are not true allegations because he's a
Speaker 1: young black kid from the inner city, grew up in
Speaker 1: uh um, forced to care. He's been by himself, come
Speaker 1: from the dirt, poverty, so from Philly. Like, so you
Speaker 1: want Baltimore, my fault, You from Baltimore and you want
Speaker 1: to see him become successful, but you don't want you don't.
Speaker 1: We can't condone things like this, but that the reality
Speaker 1: is there is a culture that is very toxic that
Speaker 1: we celebrate right now and it's normalized and we have
Speaker 1: to of course, we got to call out things when
Speaker 1: we see it, when we see people do things, we
Speaker 1: got to call out. But we have to do is
Speaker 1: try to start changing the toxics. But that's my question.
Speaker 1: Can you change the toxicity without challenging I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out why is it that I even even and
Speaker 1: I didn't even bring this up in my post, although
Speaker 1: many of the comments was questioning why another any other
Speaker 1: black men who were in that room didn't stop and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you can't take ky out of here like that. You
Speaker 1: need to relax, my man. You can't, because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna tell you the realist thing in
Speaker 1: that situation right there now, if he had punched in
Speaker 1: the face and somebody got in, sure, I'm sure the
Speaker 1: woman would have done. Listen to me, but listen, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this. Listen. I'm gonna give my point
Speaker 1: out is that if he had punched there and he jumped,
Speaker 1: somebody jumped in for her, she would have been okay,
Speaker 1: thank you. But in that situation. I've seen those exact situations.
Speaker 1: Would woman say you mind your business, we're good over here,
Speaker 1: and they'll jump you. I've I've seen that is the
Speaker 1: issue because people, especially in those situations like that where
Speaker 1: there isn't any blunt enforce and punches and and things thrown,
Speaker 1: people don't know how far to get involved in someone
Speaker 1: else relationship because they have been vic they have thought
Speaker 1: that they were doing the best thing. And the woman
Speaker 1: tell of the minor business, we got this, don't worry
Speaker 1: about this because they have they have toxic relationships that
Speaker 1: these things are Normally we need to be talking. It
Speaker 1: has to be a full conversation. But I don't think
Speaker 1: it's on you know, I think it's on every I
Speaker 1: think it's on a relationship. I think people have to
Speaker 1: be have to restructure this, this culture of how relationships
Speaker 1: are handled, because I'm telling you that no, not attend
Speaker 1: people that you come from. You act in our communities,
Speaker 1: especially in the hip hop culture, they're young within between
Speaker 1: the twenty something before, a little bit before thirty or
Speaker 1: even thirty will tell you that it wasn't that serious.
Speaker 1: All he did was grabbed by the collar, like he
Speaker 1: can't beat it up, like I'm telling you that's so.
Speaker 1: In other words, there has to be a conversation across
Speaker 1: the I just want, I'm hoping, I'm personally hoping, and
Speaker 1: my thought of the day that my son is being
Speaker 1: taught by every man around him, every man, that that
Speaker 1: behavior is wrong. Number one, that it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: she did, that you can't she's not your dog, she's
Speaker 1: not your child, because you're not even allowed to beat dogs,
Speaker 1: and they've stopped really allowing you to even uh physically
Speaker 1: chastise your children. Although my parents didn't care about you
Speaker 1: grab your your child by the collar. You ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get him, Okay, so but you still it might be
Speaker 1: somebody that says this looks a little whatever and whatever.
Speaker 1: But I hope that people are telling them this is
Speaker 1: not the right way to behave. But I also would
Speaker 1: hope that if he does do it, that there would
Speaker 1: be a real come to Jesus conversation and that maybe
Speaker 1: his friends wouldn't be in the club laughing and joking
Speaker 1: and having a good time, because basically what that says,
Speaker 1: it's a throwaway thing. It's not that serious. This is
Speaker 1: what I want, I want to act, and it's a
Speaker 1: really serious point. When Clange jay Z did anyone, there
Speaker 1: was a number of articles and people who spoke to
Speaker 1: the fact that violence, no matter what, is wrong. In
Speaker 1: fact that maybe that may be what you heard, but
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you there were a lot of people
Speaker 1: and in fact, and I can find it for you
Speaker 1: and share with you. And in fact, there was an
Speaker 1: entire you know, part of our community, or many people
Speaker 1: in our community who argued that should he have been
Speaker 1: a lot out to hit her back because she hit him? Right,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm just trying to tell you in our culture,
Speaker 1: because maybe it was somewhere else, but I'm talking about
Speaker 1: in the culture where I lived, it was celebrated, were
Speaker 1: celebrated as that's right. You disrespected me, you dispected my sister.
Speaker 1: We put our hands on you. It was music, It
Speaker 1: was every There was nobody that I've seen of any
Speaker 1: level of statue. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: we didn't. We you know, we didn't look into it
Speaker 1: before coming here if you had asked me that. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and find it because I know
Speaker 1: that there were stories where women were talking and men
Speaker 1: were talking about violence and how it's wrong and what
Speaker 1: have you. But what I will say is this, I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone needs to put their hands on anyone.
Speaker 1: I think everybody needs to keep their hands to themselves.
Speaker 1: I don't want my son's girlfriend hitting him. I don't
Speaker 1: want him hitting her. But I will say this, black
Speaker 1: men need to understand. Specifically, all men need to know.
Speaker 1: But black men need to know that you got birth
Speaker 1: from a woman, that you got birth through a woman,
Speaker 1: and if you abuse the person that carried you and
Speaker 1: brought you into this world, it's some real scum shit
Speaker 1: about that. And I'm not Also, we have to look
Speaker 1: at like you said, what's abuse? What abuse is? I'm
Speaker 1: sitting somewhere and you physically come and decide that I
Speaker 1: gotta go. But I'm trying to tell you that is
Speaker 1: normalised and understand that to a bunch of men. Anytime
Speaker 1: a man of being a club having a conversation with
Speaker 1: a woman and women have come grab you out your seat,
Speaker 1: I promise you a bunch of average man cannot will
Speaker 1: not physically move when a woman comes and grabs him.
Speaker 1: I promise you that that's not it's not physical. Don't know.
Speaker 1: What I'm asking you is the fact that he doesn't move,
Speaker 1: it's wrong. Okay, that's what I'm trying to say, because
Speaker 1: she can't physically moving, but the act itself is the same,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying to you that it is wrong. So
Speaker 1: that's physical in any case is wrong. And we have
Speaker 1: to have the conversation because the culture has normalized it
Speaker 1: on both ends. Okay, that's fine, and we could be
Speaker 1: done with it. And I just I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of brothers are out here talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: respect the man. I'm a man, and what that looks like.
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't look like having the discipline that
Speaker 1: you were not in public, violate, embarrassed, and disrespect with
Speaker 1: your physical ability that is clearly more dominant than a woman.
Speaker 1: If you don't have that type of discipline, and don't
Speaker 1: come tell me about being a man, don't don't tell
Speaker 1: me about that. Okay, So you want to have the
Speaker 1: last because to me, like listen to me. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm an advocate, like I cannot. You're not going to
Speaker 1: do anything to a woman in front. It's just not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's never going to happen. But what I'm
Speaker 1: asking is all we have in that same criteria is
Speaker 1: you a woman putting her hands on a man, does
Speaker 1: that exclude her from womanhood? Is that less? It's her
Speaker 1: lack of discipline. I think what you just said, No,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to let me see what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because you said if a man doesn't have the discipline
Speaker 1: enough not to put his hands or grab anything to
Speaker 1: a woman, then he can't talk about being a man.
Speaker 1: And I'm asking you, if a woman doesn't have that
Speaker 1: same discipline enough not to put her hands on a man,
Speaker 1: can we say that she's not a woman. I think
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's very childish and and I think
Speaker 1: it's very childish. And I will say again that there
Speaker 1: is a difference in the physical it is ability of
Speaker 1: men and women. I think that I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: it's right or wrong, and I think you're right a
Speaker 1: conversation she needs to happen again. Across the board, people
Speaker 1: need to not put their hands on each other. But
Speaker 1: the problem that I have with this conversation even is
Speaker 1: the equivocation that because we're talking about something that actually
Speaker 1: happened yesterday or the day before yesterday, that we need
Speaker 1: to now bring up what women have done also, instead
Speaker 1: of us being able to deal with the fact that
Speaker 1: this happened, and and and there are a lot, but
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that we're not dealing
Speaker 1: with it. I think that we've already. I think that
Speaker 1: my point, my position was that is wrong. It is
Speaker 1: totally wrong. And you asked me why. Your question is
Speaker 1: why people, and I had to break it down to
Speaker 1: what it is. Because when you can see salangs do that,
Speaker 1: or you were at the club with a dude, dance
Speaker 1: with a dude and you see a girl walk up
Speaker 1: behind him and start hitting him and doing no not
Speaker 1: to do the dude dancing with a girl and somebody
Speaker 1: coming behind, Yeah, beat him up, and it's it's a
Speaker 1: number one mem and anybody's laughing at joke and anybody saying, Yo,
Speaker 1: that's messed up. So I understand with your point of view,
Speaker 1: because for me, I'm physically too strong. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do anything to him because don't matter what you do
Speaker 1: to me, you can't really hurt me. So my hope,
Speaker 1: my first thing is to restrain you at home, so
Speaker 1: I don't see a need to return fire or harm
Speaker 1: you fire return fire, because just think about firing, that's firing.
Speaker 1: Look if you're some fires is so not to sell
Speaker 1: mixtape and mixtape that that is, you know, we're the
Speaker 1: critics corner and me specifically, Um, we listened to everything
Speaker 1: that you say with and read everything you write with
Speaker 1: a very fine tooth comb. UM. And I can say
Speaker 1: that I'm very proud of your growth because I certainly
Speaker 1: have seen it now. Sister Carmen was talking about that yesterday.
Speaker 1: Just how much you have a lovely text. Thank you, Carmen,
Speaker 1: You've grown so much. Um. And as I'm listening to
Speaker 1: so not to sell the mix tape, I hear so
Speaker 1: much passion and so much and just I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like you developed as an artist, because you've
Speaker 1: always been a great artist to me. And I just
Speaker 1: think people need to listen and really take the time
Speaker 1: because I think folks, if it's not in rotation on
Speaker 1: the radio, it takes them a longer process to actually
Speaker 1: sit down and listen. In the world is moving so
Speaker 1: fast that folks that even they want to but they
Speaker 1: just can't, you know, for whatever reason. Um. But I
Speaker 1: sat down, but I was hearing different songs at different
Speaker 1: times in different spaces. But I sat down and I
Speaker 1: listened to every single song, every single word. And I
Speaker 1: have to say that there are really really some dope
Speaker 1: tracks on this mixtape. So shout out to you. Congratulations
Speaker 1: did a really really really really really good job. So
Speaker 1: how does it feel and talk about the process and
Speaker 1: the whole Well, for me, man, I've put together this
Speaker 1: is like the third pro project that I've created in
Speaker 1: the last few months. Man, shout out my boy Chris
Speaker 1: Gotti um at Adventure Music something for shoutouts around. Shout
Speaker 1: out because in just give him love. Man, Um, Chris
Speaker 1: Gotty have been reaching out to me for a while, like,
Speaker 1: y'all want to do some music with you. I want
Speaker 1: to work with you. I think you dope. Were always
Speaker 1: thought you was dope. I love what you stand for
Speaker 1: and you know. And then one day we were at
Speaker 1: the Rucker, I mean not the Rucker, we were at
Speaker 1: in the Dikement playground and then we just started building.
Speaker 1: He's like, come to the studio. And then I went
Speaker 1: to the studio and we just started working on a project.
Speaker 1: We did a project you know, um, that we already created.
Speaker 1: We had it. It's another project that you've heard some
Speaker 1: of the tracks on. But we got about twenty songs
Speaker 1: and it's so like dope, you know, and we just
Speaker 1: we're waiting for the right time to release it. So
Speaker 1: while I was writing, I'm like, you know what, let
Speaker 1: me just put something out. I want to put a
Speaker 1: mixtape about that, because was a field. It was just
Speaker 1: a field because people want to know, why not the album?
Speaker 1: Why not the album? But I was like, it's a
Speaker 1: setup because the album, to me, is even doper than this.
Speaker 1: But I think this is dope. But the album touches
Speaker 1: on so many different subjects and stories. There's so many
Speaker 1: different things on the album. But this mixtape for me,
Speaker 1: was something that was like a two and a half
Speaker 1: weak process that we went to and we found some
Speaker 1: tracks that just married and had a feeling and you know,
Speaker 1: So Not for Sale was is a is a clothing
Speaker 1: line that I you know, I worked with with my
Speaker 1: partner little Man in my Life. He started the company,
Speaker 1: started so Not for Sale brand a few years ago
Speaker 1: and then we started partnering on it a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, and which you know, he he's um was
Speaker 1: the founder of that. And I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: this is something that represents me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's why that's where our our partnership came and
Speaker 1: I was like, this mixtape should be named that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I feel like that's always
Speaker 1: been my soul has never been for sale, and because
Speaker 1: of that, I haven't been able to get recognition. I
Speaker 1: haven't been able to get on certain platforms and certain
Speaker 1: situations that I believe I deserve. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: anything that I lacked musically. I don't think that there's
Speaker 1: anything that I lack in the entertainment person and all
Speaker 1: of those things. I believe that I have all of
Speaker 1: the things necessary to be an elite artist in this field.
Speaker 1: But the fact that that I don't, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't go about it a certain way, and I don't
Speaker 1: cow tow and I don't bite my tongue and I
Speaker 1: don't I feel I need to do things to fit
Speaker 1: into certain rooms is probably why I have And that's
Speaker 1: just my personal opinion. So this music was to reflect that,
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted this music to reflect it and
Speaker 1: didn't also have essence of what it is that I represent.
Speaker 1: The movement, you know how it is in almost every
Speaker 1: song it seems like you touch on um just you know,
Speaker 1: the movement and and not even so much the movement,
Speaker 1: that's one part of it, but just like common sense
Speaker 1: things and just like real authentic talk, specifically the young
Speaker 1: people about choices that you've made, decisions you've made, and
Speaker 1: ways in which they can not fall into those same traps.
Speaker 1: So I just think it's a it's a really good project.
Speaker 1: I hope that people will download it every platform, millions
Speaker 1: old platforms, man, you know, because I really just wanted
Speaker 1: to Like a lot of projects I put and I
Speaker 1: put on a few platforms, but this one, I really
Speaker 1: was like, this needs to be on all platforms, and
Speaker 1: it's completely independent. You know. I've partnered with Adventure, Me
Speaker 1: and Chris Gardy. We just just wanted to give it
Speaker 1: to the world. We didn't just promote it. We didn't
Speaker 1: do no big We just said, you know what, this
Speaker 1: this project for me is gonna be like an R
Speaker 1: and B album. You know, R and B albums, they
Speaker 1: don't just go straight to the charts unless you just
Speaker 1: be honest, here's somebody. But what happens is they start
Speaker 1: to just grow slowly, you build like I don't I
Speaker 1: don't mind building this project for the next six months,
Speaker 1: like just building with it because I know each song
Speaker 1: is so powerful, Like, I haven't heard one person that
Speaker 1: listened to this project that didn't have the sentiments you had,
Speaker 1: Like people like, yo, this this is an epic body
Speaker 1: of work, Like it's the feel of it's just so
Speaker 1: real and authentic that it took me somewhere else. It's
Speaker 1: not nothing like that's out now. It still feels, but
Speaker 1: it has a feeling a vibe that just just empowers you.
Speaker 1: It makes you just feel something. Now, I was studying
Speaker 1: your Instagram um stories and really sort of studying what
Speaker 1: people felt about it, and I noticed that you're already
Speaker 1: starting to have certain songs that have a trend, like
Speaker 1: Rain that Sale, and it seemed like a lot of
Speaker 1: people around certain songs that I also felt, you know,
Speaker 1: I had a good feeling about and you can see
Speaker 1: it translating into what the public is saying. So, you know,
Speaker 1: Harry Belafon said something one day that I thought was
Speaker 1: so powerful and it's stuck with me. He said that
Speaker 1: when he saw how Paul Roberson was being black ball.
Speaker 1: You know, Paul Robinson was a revolutionary, you know, and
Speaker 1: he spoke truth to power. Anytime you did that, especially
Speaker 1: back then, you could be black balls, and he said
Speaker 1: he started to see what was happening with him, and
Speaker 1: so he decided to continue as Harry Bellefonte is fine,
Speaker 1: black man, successful rich man. He decided to still continue
Speaker 1: to do the chicken circuit, like to still do small clubs,
Speaker 1: and to stay down, stay tintoes down, connected to the people.
Speaker 1: Never get too high where they can take it from you, right.
Speaker 1: And I feel like in your situation, although it's it's
Speaker 1: topsy turvy, it's been difficult, you are built. You have
Speaker 1: built such a strong and authentic relationship with people on
Speaker 1: the ground that no matter what, they support you. Because
Speaker 1: everywhere we travel speaking and whatever it is that we're
Speaker 1: doing across this country organizing, people love you and they
Speaker 1: come out and they support you, and they and they
Speaker 1: and they treat you just like they do any other celebrities.
Speaker 1: So you know, I just I think it's great. I
Speaker 1: think you have the right model. But I know it's
Speaker 1: frustrating at times to just know where you were and
Speaker 1: to have this be the new direction that you've had
Speaker 1: to take. But it's obviously God's walk for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's like you said, I'm building it
Speaker 1: in authenticity. Man, compromising myself. I'm putting out music that
Speaker 1: has doesn't have to go with status quo. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have to have a certain sound that is current. It
Speaker 1: just has what I feel like I'm able to put
Speaker 1: my music and how I feel, and people are really
Speaker 1: just gravitating into it. So I'm just like you said,
Speaker 1: I'm blessed to have people that love me, regardless of
Speaker 1: the statue or what's going on al radio play, Like
Speaker 1: people have been on my page like, you know, we
Speaker 1: need a project, we need a project. You know. That
Speaker 1: was my process for it, Like I just wanted to
Speaker 1: give my hardcore fans, people that really want and believe
Speaker 1: in me, something to listen to. So I'm grateful for
Speaker 1: the way that y'all have received it, you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to continue to push it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: probably shoot a video for every song because I feel
Speaker 1: like everything on his visual and heartfelt, you know, probably
Speaker 1: might make a mini movie coll so not for sales
Speaker 1: because you need to still focus on your album. So
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's a part of it though, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want to I want to
Speaker 1: the music to be the soundtrack for the movie because
Speaker 1: it's so it's so real. That is super super super dope.
Speaker 1: Tell people again how you can actually, Yes, you can
Speaker 1: go to my page. You can go to my Instagram page.
Speaker 1: My song in by General and you can click the
Speaker 1: link in the bio and go straight to my website
Speaker 1: and you can purchase it there. Or it's on every
Speaker 1: other platform in the world that you want to is
Speaker 1: on Title, Spotify, Apple Music, any other platform that you
Speaker 1: go to, you can stream it. And you know, just
Speaker 1: people that don't have Instagram, they could go to your website.
Speaker 1: You can is my son y dot com. It is
Speaker 1: my son yg dot com. You can go right on
Speaker 1: my my website and just purchase it by yourself dot com.
Speaker 1: People should know, just in case they forget, that means
Speaker 1: my son New York General dot com. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: And that was such a high to talk about your album.
Speaker 1: And I hate to go bring up the Senate stuff again,
Speaker 1: and but we have to make sure, as this show
Speaker 1: is called Street Politicians, that we educate our audience and
Speaker 1: that we become educated on what's happening from a political perspective.
Speaker 1: I just think America's in big, big, big trouble and
Speaker 1: we always have been think, but this is really when
Speaker 1: white folks get scared, then black people should be terrified,
Speaker 1: like and white people are scared like. There are many
Speaker 1: white people. I have been meeting white folks who are
Speaker 1: staunch Republicans. They are Republican. They've their granddaddy was a Republican,
Speaker 1: their grandmama was cooking pies for the Republican Convention. They
Speaker 1: children are Republicans. They are they are Republicans, and they
Speaker 1: are struggling with supporting the Republican Party right now. Many
Speaker 1: of them have for the first time and they allowed
Speaker 1: it was two thousand and sixteen, for the first time
Speaker 1: in their lives, they voted on the Democratic side. But
Speaker 1: even if they didn't then, because they still were so
Speaker 1: tied to it, now as we moved towards uh election,
Speaker 1: They're like, there's no way I can support this. They're right,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not saying that, like, let's not
Speaker 1: even get into it, because I'm not saying at all
Speaker 1: that the Democrats are anything better. But I do know
Speaker 1: that President Trump is probably the most dangerous man in America,
Speaker 1: and the party that supports him is definitely not for us.
Speaker 1: And that's and that's just always been my point of view.
Speaker 1: Like people always say, oh, you Democrats and you talk,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not. I'm not. I'm by I'm bipartisan
Speaker 1: by party. That is, you're by parties. Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: because the reality situation is if if I because I
Speaker 1: want you to understand about a position, because if I've
Speaker 1: seen somebody, if I saw somebody, if I had already seen,
Speaker 1: or if I saw somebody that was in the Republican
Speaker 1: Party that represented my interests, I would vote for That's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to People think that I keep by
Speaker 1: the party. I don't. That's about the party. You think
Speaker 1: I care about the part the Republicans was talking to
Speaker 1: my needs and the things that's going on in black
Speaker 1: communities and really was helping us and understood. I would
Speaker 1: vote for them. But the problem for me where I
Speaker 1: have a disconnected You can't tell me that a party
Speaker 1: ran by white people, the Democrats, but they're all over there.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about of them are white people that
Speaker 1: come from privileged communities that I don't come the leadership,
Speaker 1: the leadership, even the people that over they only have
Speaker 1: two black people in their party right now that are
Speaker 1: in office in the Senate. So you can't explain to
Speaker 1: me that white people know more about me and was
Speaker 1: for me than we do. Right now, they're all white people.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to s who come from privilege. But
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you is because that we've
Speaker 1: narrowed it down, but there were people on that stage,
Speaker 1: There are people, there are There are hundreds of people
Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party that looked like me and when
Speaker 1: we Okay, so let's be clear about because you know
Speaker 1: it's got to be clear. So what you're saying is
Speaker 1: that when you see the leadership, all the folks that
Speaker 1: are hired, the people moving and shaken within the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: of them our wife folks, that's leaders and most of
Speaker 1: the leaders and that's the four white people that come
Speaker 1: from the same well some of them may have started.
Speaker 1: We take away leading leaders the leadership. That's important, Okay,
Speaker 1: but you need to understand this. How many people actually
Speaker 1: are in office that are black Republicans? Well no, okay, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait? How many office? How many Black Republicans have
Speaker 1: they actually voted into? All? Okay, but I'm saying I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to go slow because people don't necessarily understand.
Speaker 1: They hear things and they go and they'll say of Republicans.
Speaker 1: My son said that of Republicans have come from privilege,
Speaker 1: which wouldn't be true because the body, the Republican Party's
Speaker 1: body just like every other body. When you start to
Speaker 1: trickle down, it's just everyday people who are part of
Speaker 1: the party. But from the top in the leadership positions,
Speaker 1: you're saying that they the leadership is basically a bunch
Speaker 1: of privileged white What I'm saying is this, how many
Speaker 1: Republicans are black that are in office? No, not in
Speaker 1: office really because in these little towns across the country
Speaker 1: there maybe what I'm trying to tell you that's not
Speaker 1: I've done the study. Well, you've got the show from
Speaker 1: the Congress to Senate, all of these things given to
Speaker 1: listen to me, Tim's they're about probably about three of them.
Speaker 1: They're about three of them. But I want you to
Speaker 1: understand this, and I'm telling you I've done I've done
Speaker 1: the study because I wanted to understand why people are
Speaker 1: saying that we need to switch parties. I actually wanted
Speaker 1: to understand it. And I've had debates with other people
Speaker 1: who are telling me they're black Republicans, and they cannot
Speaker 1: name to me a double digit amount of black people
Speaker 1: that are are elected officials in any state in America.
Speaker 1: Elected officials are Republicans. But but, but there is a
Speaker 1: difference between there's a difference between elected officials and the
Speaker 1: leadership of the party. But the leadership is even worse
Speaker 1: than elected officials. What I'm saying is that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You are probably right, because I want
Speaker 1: to understand that across the country in every single state
Speaker 1: Senate seat and all these other city councils, but I
Speaker 1: do I don't know that they don't have black people.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the one and they had a woman
Speaker 1: that just said that she felt like a black woman.
Speaker 1: I forgot her name and we should look it up.
Speaker 1: But she was just talking about how she felt that
Speaker 1: they completely were against her, that it was racism that
Speaker 1: was showing everything as a black woman, a black Republican woman.
Speaker 1: She was supposed to be the next of the party.
Speaker 1: They had a lot behind her and she got out
Speaker 1: of there. And I'm trying to tell it was about
Speaker 1: three of that. There's some people, you know, it would
Speaker 1: be really sad if you know, when you show me
Speaker 1: that it's really sad it. Nonetheless, in the Democratic Party, yes,
Speaker 1: you are right, there are many more people of color
Speaker 1: who are in leadership positions. However, in terms of Senate seats,
Speaker 1: not that many, Corey Kamala, it's not it's not like
Speaker 1: you're saying that on the Democratic side, there's so many
Speaker 1: more they are. But that's what I tell you. You
Speaker 1: saying it's not that many and not that many that
Speaker 1: we have is that much more than they have on
Speaker 1: the other side. Let's look at that because I what
Speaker 1: I what I think though, is that what we should
Speaker 1: be saying, which would support your position a hundred percent,
Speaker 1: is that I know for a fact Minyon more uh
Speaker 1: Leah Daughtry and other women who have been a part
Speaker 1: of the party leadership. So there are other there are
Speaker 1: black women who are part of the party leadership, even
Speaker 1: even black men Michael Blade, who who is everything you're saying.
Speaker 1: But what I want you to know is that I
Speaker 1: get it you. You don't want to go on a
Speaker 1: limb and say something because because you probably don't believe
Speaker 1: that what I'm saying because you liked that I'm not
Speaker 1: going on I'm just saying that I think it's important
Speaker 1: for us to be clear about I'm clear because I
Speaker 1: was listen to me because when when Kanye and these
Speaker 1: people are talking about this and that and how you
Speaker 1: see and it goes back some time, Carol Moseley Braun,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to say, this is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I promise you you will. You will be surprised because
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it that that black people was actually
Speaker 1: telling me that this is what I needed the party.
Speaker 1: I needed to vote for Tim Scott. I think he
Speaker 1: might be the only black and then. But all I'm
Speaker 1: saying is that on the Democratic side is too So
Speaker 1: you're saying that one more is better than one less.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I agree with you that across the
Speaker 1: board in terms of the leadership of the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: which is not just people in elected office. The Democratic
Speaker 1: Party and all parties, leadership is not just people who
Speaker 1: have been elected to serve in a political office. There
Speaker 1: are people who are running the different committees, There are
Speaker 1: people who are running the party. And it is very
Speaker 1: true that the diversity in the Democratic Party is much
Speaker 1: more in line with who we are and our mission
Speaker 1: and also much more representative of the communities that we
Speaker 1: support than the Republican Party. So we're on the same
Speaker 1: page about that. Where I was getting worried is around
Speaker 1: saying that all the elected officials. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you're wrong, I'm just saying that would be really sad,
Speaker 1: but it is. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1: If you should it's sad, I'm trying to tell you
Speaker 1: it's really sad because I actually googled it and I
Speaker 1: studied it for about two days because I was like,
Speaker 1: why would somebody tell me to vote for somebody that
Speaker 1: never came for where I come from, don't look like me,
Speaker 1: don't have any cultural identification in me, and tell me
Speaker 1: that they know more about what's best for me than
Speaker 1: I do. Well, Okay, so then if that's the case,
Speaker 1: let's see who we're gonna cross out here of the candidates.
Speaker 1: Bloomberg definitely out, Biden out. Who else? You got Day
Speaker 1: on the stage? You know, I like Tom Stire, but
Speaker 1: you know he might have to be he's out because
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Bernie, if you if by your
Speaker 1: definition that they don't come from where I come from,
Speaker 1: they don't understand my issues, almost none of them. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Bernie has been in the struggle with
Speaker 1: us for years. Oh man, you can't. All I'm saying
Speaker 1: is wheah, he's been. He definitely has protested, He has
Speaker 1: been a part of, uh, you know, civil rights issues.
Speaker 1: He has he has definitely carried the torch on behalf
Speaker 1: of the civil rights movement. Different situations and different but
Speaker 1: I would challenge that none of them, none of the
Speaker 1: people who are currently running for president, deserve our vote
Speaker 1: in the way in which we have to vote for
Speaker 1: them now because of the fact that we got to
Speaker 1: get this. I think the only time in history I
Speaker 1: felt like that was with Obama and he and he
Speaker 1: is questionable exactly, But I don't think I've ever felt
Speaker 1: like somebody had to get my vote. I don't think nobody.
Speaker 1: They do have to because we have to get rid
Speaker 1: of try. But I'm trying to tell you I've never
Speaker 1: felt like. The closest I felt after Obama was burning
Speaker 1: because he spoke directly two things that his platform is
Speaker 1: the most it is and you know, and it's a
Speaker 1: new way of thing. And he challenges the system and
Speaker 1: he says, look, why can't everybody go to school for free?
Speaker 1: Why can't anybody have health care? No, they can. We
Speaker 1: just got to make sure some of these billionaires a
Speaker 1: little less rich, and we can support everything you want to.
Speaker 1: You'll find ways to do everything. But these are the
Speaker 1: most important things in the world. Your life and your
Speaker 1: education are the most important things. So why so why
Speaker 1: is that's something that people have to have money to get? Like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. So I'm with that, I hear you,
Speaker 1: and and today, you know what, on our next episode,
Speaker 1: we should really talk about these candidates we have. We
Speaker 1: haven't really talked about going on for the rest of
Speaker 1: the presidential cycle. Yeah, but we do need to like
Speaker 1: really analyze these different folks because it's so much happening.
Speaker 1: You know that we were gonna talk about the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl ads. I just really wanted to throw up when
Speaker 1: I watched Did you watch? I don't. I don't watch
Speaker 1: anything that has to do with Super Bowl. You can't
Speaker 1: tell me you didn't see Shakira and j looks anything.
Speaker 1: I don't watch the NFL and I don't watch Super Bowl. Oh,
Speaker 1: you don't watch the NFL either, none of the games.
Speaker 1: You don't support any of the teams. So why now
Speaker 1: when you have been very vocal about your support for
Speaker 1: your yeah, support for jay Z, like you really want
Speaker 1: to see j win. But what it is that he
Speaker 1: says that he's working on. I think we all want
Speaker 1: to see him win. I certainly do, even even the
Speaker 1: toughest critics want to see what Jay has set forth
Speaker 1: to do actually come to fruition because it needs to.
Speaker 1: And that's when I will watch the NFL see I'm
Speaker 1: I'm applauding Jay because he has I'm applauding or supporting, supporting.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to change your world. I'm
Speaker 1: saying both because to have the wirwidthal to take the
Speaker 1: criticism about what it's going to take. The Transformer situation,
Speaker 1: you know, an organization has been historically you know, racist,
Speaker 1: but has profit of black bodies and will continue to
Speaker 1: profit of black bodies. And to say to yourself, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're going to continue to profit of black bodies. So
Speaker 1: how do we make it to where these black bodies
Speaker 1: have a say to where we start to create ownership
Speaker 1: inside something that's been profit off us for years, that
Speaker 1: has labor has been profit off with you, how do
Speaker 1: we start to transform and start making culturally sensitive, make
Speaker 1: people culturally identify what our thinks. That takes a lot
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be called every name in the world.
Speaker 1: So I all that because everybody is not willing to
Speaker 1: do it. Some people are willing to sit there from
Speaker 1: their house and say, oh, you could have did this
Speaker 1: and you can buy this, but they don't do nothing.
Speaker 1: So I applaud anyone willing to take those stripes, you know,
Speaker 1: take those weapons on the back. And the reason why
Speaker 1: I still don't watch the NFL is because what Kaepernick
Speaker 1: stood for what's real. You know, we are being killed
Speaker 1: at higher rates, we are being ignored, black bodies are
Speaker 1: being valued, you know, in the NFL punished him for that.
Speaker 1: So I still have a problem with that. Although there
Speaker 1: are there, you know, things that I've expressed that I
Speaker 1: have different disagreements with both of them all. But the
Speaker 1: reality is the Kaepernick and jay Z I have this
Speaker 1: disagreements on both of their approaches in this situation. But
Speaker 1: the reality is I want to see, like you said,
Speaker 1: I want to see j succeed in his his plight
Speaker 1: to try to differ, versify and change what's wrong within
Speaker 1: the NFL and make it a more level player. FAIL
Speaker 1: want that to happen. But until I see that happening,
Speaker 1: until you know, because right now there's the project. It's
Speaker 1: like a building a house, but I'm not gonna move
Speaker 1: in the house while until it's built. So I'm i'm, i'm,
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that that that he's gonna do what he
Speaker 1: set out to do. Yesterday, I watched him after I've
Speaker 1: seen it on the Instagram and I reposted with him,
Speaker 1: and Beyonce's never stood for the national anthem, so to me,
Speaker 1: that shows that, okay, we have we're doing business, but
Speaker 1: the issue at hand, that America doesn't respect black people
Speaker 1: is still something that's dead to me. And I don't
Speaker 1: want you to believe that because I've decided to come
Speaker 1: in here and try to transform this from my people
Speaker 1: that I sold them out. So there's gonna be different views.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a different point of view, But for me,
Speaker 1: I'm not watching it until I see the work that
Speaker 1: they say they want to do actually get done, and
Speaker 1: I I aar you and I I have very deliberately
Speaker 1: taking a position of not speaking too much on this
Speaker 1: NFL situation because I also want to see what jay
Speaker 1: Z is doing. Understanding it's not like my relationship with
Speaker 1: or my my. When I say relationship, I don't want
Speaker 1: it to to be misconstrued that I'm saying that I
Speaker 1: have a personal relationship with jay Z, but my relationship
Speaker 1: just in terms of knowing what he's done for many
Speaker 1: of the families in the movement, how he's been supportive
Speaker 1: of organizations financially and other resources that he has given
Speaker 1: h to support different organizations, not necessarily an organization that
Speaker 1: I um was leading, but definitely I know that he's
Speaker 1: done a lot. And so when he stepped out there
Speaker 1: with the NFL, while I had very serious and specific
Speaker 1: issues around some of the talking points, the optics of
Speaker 1: the whole thing caps involvement, I also still feel that
Speaker 1: what he's saying, what he's trying and to do, is
Speaker 1: really coming from a very real place. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I support Colin Kaepernet and I support his movement. I
Speaker 1: support what he stands for, and I think that the
Speaker 1: NFL by itself, just the NFL, without all the issues,
Speaker 1: the brothers, you know, jay Z, Colin Eric read all
Speaker 1: of that, just the NFL itself is trash. That's what
Speaker 1: I feel. So how do you reconcile all these things
Speaker 1: it's difficult, and I feel that from my perspective, I
Speaker 1: could go analyzing everything and shooting at this one and
Speaker 1: saying what I feel about some of Colin in my opinion,
Speaker 1: my personal opinion some of his missteps. I could go
Speaker 1: about talking about what I feel, and all that does
Speaker 1: is add to what I feel has been very divisive
Speaker 1: in our communities because it has been extreme. This has
Speaker 1: been probably one of the most divisive issues that we
Speaker 1: that I personally have seen in a very very long time. UM.
Speaker 1: And I just don't feel like I can help by being,
Speaker 1: you know, by being because really I'm gonna tell I
Speaker 1: would say the jury is out on both sides with me,
Speaker 1: We're gonna see what happens. I still think Colin Kaepernick
Speaker 1: should have a job in the NFL, period, point blank.
Speaker 1: He should be playing UM. But I also understand it
Speaker 1: there's a bigger picture here that has to be addressed,
Speaker 1: and that is how our communities. These players come from
Speaker 1: communities that need to be supported, uplifted, UM, and so
Speaker 1: how does that happen. At the same time, while you
Speaker 1: deal with Collins issues, there's a lot and and everything
Speaker 1: everything that we see, even in our expert places where
Speaker 1: were all experts on different issues. We're not always able
Speaker 1: to really have a conclusion, you know, So I struggle
Speaker 1: internally with it. But I also sit and work with
Speaker 1: Rock Nation, right like, I sit with them, and I've
Speaker 1: been working with them to see how we can advance
Speaker 1: the cause. So it's a it's a lot, but they
Speaker 1: know everybody knows me. I'll still say what it is
Speaker 1: that I feel, absolutely absolutely That's why I don't watch
Speaker 1: the NFL. But anyway, the ad that Trump hit, Trump's ad,
Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting that there's been so much
Speaker 1: turmoil between black folks and the NFL, but yet they
Speaker 1: chose Trump chose the Trump chose. Trump chose two place
Speaker 1: his advertisements specifically targeting black people during the show. I didn't,
Speaker 1: and I'm still maybe it is some numbers that I
Speaker 1: don't know about. But the last I checked, the NFL
Speaker 1: was having issues with black viewership. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: he chose that venue to place a black ad, But
Speaker 1: you know whatever, there's a bunch of conspiracies I could
Speaker 1: come up with around how what they think about us
Speaker 1: and the fact that sports is like the only place
Speaker 1: where we actually pay attention. But that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 1: But the advertisement basically was about criminal justice reform, and
Speaker 1: he's basically touting his record on criminal justice reform. You
Speaker 1: know that the First Step Act has helped to free
Speaker 1: many people, uh I think they. Van Jones says like
Speaker 1: seven thousand people have gotten not a prison since President
Speaker 1: Trump has been in office. A lot of people work
Speaker 1: with him on that. To Pika Sam and we are
Speaker 1: all for the fact that government is doing what it's
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Like, right, we that's what you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do, help to free people who shouldn't be in prison. However,
Speaker 1: he uses one woman who was free. That's the woman
Speaker 1: Alice Johnson, who him Kardashian support supported. He used her
Speaker 1: two to create this add around and pretty much said,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the only one that can get this
Speaker 1: done right, Like some people talk about criminal justice reform,
Speaker 1: but I'm actually making it happen. And I just thought
Speaker 1: to use this black woman and her story as a
Speaker 1: problem while at the same time, you participate in racist
Speaker 1: behavioral patterns and put people in serious danger, and just
Speaker 1: the other day blocked African countries from being able to
Speaker 1: come to the United States. Put put you know, it's
Speaker 1: called on instant, I mean on social media hashtag the
Speaker 1: African Band. It really really bothers me that you would
Speaker 1: use this woman, you know what I mean. Well, we
Speaker 1: understand that Trump is a businessman. Everything he did a
Speaker 1: strategic you know, when when he freed up from the beginning,
Speaker 1: it was about strategy. You know, when Kim Kardashian came
Speaker 1: and she's one of the most well known people in
Speaker 1: the world, and she pleaded with him, and when people
Speaker 1: with a lot of people don't understand was you know,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of situations within Obama's administration where
Speaker 1: he commuted the most people in history because they shot
Speaker 1: down bills that would have allowed people like Alice to
Speaker 1: be to be set free. So so when they denied
Speaker 1: the bills that would would have her crime wasn't even
Speaker 1: supposed to she was supposed to get out. It would
Speaker 1: have been hundreds of thousands of people that have been
Speaker 1: out if he was trying to do it done. But
Speaker 1: nobody wants to have those conversations, you know, so this
Speaker 1: is a fact. So when he wasn't able to do that,
Speaker 1: he started commuting sentences, which he was over a thousand people.
Speaker 1: He commuted the sentence means that he freed them and
Speaker 1: he signed exact could have ordered to let the people free.
Speaker 1: He wasn't able to get to Alice Alice Johnson before,
Speaker 1: but she was on the list of one of the
Speaker 1: people that he was supposed to be free. But people
Speaker 1: don't have these conversations, they don't have real live conversations
Speaker 1: about that. But her case is so drastic when you
Speaker 1: look a mother who would sent it to life for
Speaker 1: drugs and things that nature, who had served how many
Speaker 1: over twenties, So when you look at it, it seemed like, wow,
Speaker 1: she should have been there. And he utilized that to
Speaker 1: play on the strings and the heart strings of America
Speaker 1: to say I've done something. Look I've done that. Not
Speaker 1: not saying that these judges that you put in are
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that most of our kids never because
Speaker 1: the federal judges that they have been putting in office,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like they're letting people out the
Speaker 1: front door for the cameras. This is this is to me,
Speaker 1: it's just the bat and switch. What they're gonna do
Speaker 1: with the people that go into jail, Now, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have hell getting out of there. So they're letting people in. Okay,
Speaker 1: these people have been here over time. We're gonna let
Speaker 1: them go. These crimes, we're commuting this. But when you
Speaker 1: go into this facility from that one for the crimes,
Speaker 1: the minimums are going to be raised. All of these
Speaker 1: things are gonna be different because they're opening new jails
Speaker 1: for a reason. They're not just opening new jails because
Speaker 1: you know what, we we want to stop crying. We're
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that we let people go. Know, they
Speaker 1: open the new jails because they're playing the film. So
Speaker 1: these are this, This is not this is this is
Speaker 1: a tact that that people don't understand that the Trump pulls.
Speaker 1: So he knows what he's doing. He's been a reality
Speaker 1: TV star, he knows reality teams media. But and and
Speaker 1: and and and you know, and there's some folks that's like,
Speaker 1: all I care about is black people in black black
Speaker 1: black black black. But you can't support a person who says,
Speaker 1: I freed some folks from jail. But yet they have
Speaker 1: thousands of families, Mexican families and and and African families
Speaker 1: that they never really show you in the media, separated
Speaker 1: at the border, with children in cages, children dying, families, dying,
Speaker 1: people who have lost their children forever and will never
Speaker 1: see them. But those are people they need to get.
Speaker 1: So listen to me. If you're if you're smart, you'll
Speaker 1: go get those people. You'll go get the exonerated five
Speaker 1: who Trump said you deserve to get the death penalty.
Speaker 1: Those people you get. You. We want to We want
Speaker 1: to who so happy? Who are you talking to when
Speaker 1: you say if y'all people want to go, I'm talking
Speaker 1: to all the presidential candidates, the rest of the presidential candidates,
Speaker 1: if you want to do something. He just for Alex
Speaker 1: Johnson now, and we're so happy that she's home because
Speaker 1: she deserved to be home. But let's talk about the
Speaker 1: people that he kept in cages. Let's talk about people
Speaker 1: like the exonerated five that he put out full page
Speaker 1: ads to say that they deserved the death penalty and never,
Speaker 1: even to this day, after they were proven DNA proved
Speaker 1: that they were innocent, he never even gave those men
Speaker 1: and EU policy. Actually he doubled down and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know about that, but you know,
Speaker 1: and and and and back to the federal Yo. The
Speaker 1: federal judges piece is so important because I don't know
Speaker 1: about rights. I don't know about the average person. Weal,
Speaker 1: that's what his whole Supreme Court play was the reason
Speaker 1: why he needs to stack the Supreme Court is because
Speaker 1: and even he said, in reference to impeachment and other
Speaker 1: things around um, you know where where he's been found
Speaker 1: to be engaging in criminal activity. He even said, that's okay,
Speaker 1: we'll take it to the highest court. You know why,
Speaker 1: because he knows that the court is stacked. It's not
Speaker 1: really in his favor yet. And God, let's hope that
Speaker 1: Ruth vaders Ginsberg that she stays as healthy as she can.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to stay healthy just so she
Speaker 1: can hold the court, but in general, but but he's
Speaker 1: trying to stack that court with Supreme Court nominations and
Speaker 1: Supreme Court excuse me, confirmed seat that will give the
Speaker 1: Republican Party the upper hand with the courts, so that
Speaker 1: whenever there are major cases like Roe v. Wade, which
Speaker 1: would uh reverse abortion and other really important things that
Speaker 1: they find to be problematic. They don't want us women
Speaker 1: to have our rights, civil rights, you know, all these
Speaker 1: different things that people fought, live, died for. They want
Speaker 1: to turn those things back. They know that the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court can do it, and so that's one level. But
Speaker 1: you also need the federal courts to advance these things
Speaker 1: to the dan on Supreme Court. So they're stacking. Were
Speaker 1: playing chess, you know what y'all say, were playing check
Speaker 1: and they playing chess. We all were arguing about, you know,
Speaker 1: who don't like cool? And did they did Bernie say
Speaker 1: this to Elizabeth? And what she thinks? And she's a lion,
Speaker 1: he's this, and and and Bloomberg's ugly and so and
Speaker 1: so is this. Biden is nibbling on his wife his
Speaker 1: finger while at an event in front of everybody. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're going through we're dealing with all of that. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: these people are in power positions, putting people in place
Speaker 1: to be able that when Trump is long gone, they
Speaker 1: would have changed things in our constitution. They would have
Speaker 1: reversed very serious rites. As you said, this is some
Speaker 1: serious ship. It's very serious. Extremely it's super serious. We
Speaker 1: need to take it serious. Man. You know, you know
Speaker 1: Trump is such a dangerous but hilarious person. I was
Speaker 1: just looking at what you know, it's hilarious because he congratulated.
Speaker 1: I don't watch the super Bowl, but you know I've
Speaker 1: seen that. He congratulated Kansas City on their huge win
Speaker 1: by saying, you represented the great state of Kansas. And
Speaker 1: in fact, the entire U said he so very well.
Speaker 1: Our country is proud of you. Now as a president,
Speaker 1: somebody of just grade school you would know that Kansas
Speaker 1: City is not in Kansas. You know, that's just. But
Speaker 1: this is the president. The president of the United States
Speaker 1: doesn't know that Kansas City is not in Kansas. But
Speaker 1: this is the person that's the leader of the free world.
Speaker 1: It was a post. I mean, it's just it's just
Speaker 1: it's a scary thing. And I think my final point
Speaker 1: that I would would just make. Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: it is, Lord have mercy. It's serious and you know,
Speaker 1: and Lord have mercy on us. I was I was
Speaker 1: coming into the studio today and I passed a man
Speaker 1: in the train station who was sitting there and his
Speaker 1: legs was just riddled with swords and he just looked sick.
Speaker 1: I mean he first of all, he was swollen to
Speaker 1: this disease and his body and he was big, and
Speaker 1: he had swords everywhere on his body. And I was
Speaker 1: just looking at him and I started praying loudly, Lord
Speaker 1: help us, like help us, like, why have thou forsake
Speaker 1: in us? Like what is this? You know? Because he's
Speaker 1: one of so many people, the homeless. This in New
Speaker 1: York and across the country is out of control. And yes,
Speaker 1: it is diverse, because I obviously I saw a white couple.
Speaker 1: I passed them all of the both of us from beholders.
Speaker 1: This is true. I give this white couple. They sleep
Speaker 1: on the ground on the street in New York, and
Speaker 1: I give them every time I see them. And the
Speaker 1: woman now she knows me, She's like, yeah, man, how
Speaker 1: you doing? You know, But it's a lot of our people,
Speaker 1: a lot of black people who are out here, homeless,
Speaker 1: young people. And Fordham Road on the Bronx and the
Speaker 1: for On in Fordham Road on for the road in
Speaker 1: the Bronx, there's a little circle and Cardi Beak gets
Speaker 1: her nails done there, so you know, I know about that.
Speaker 1: So I was going to coming from going to the
Speaker 1: nail salon one day, trying out her person and as
Speaker 1: I was walking through this little square in the middle
Speaker 1: it's a big shopping center for people who don't know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stores, A lot of folks go there.
Speaker 1: There were so many young people early in the morning,
Speaker 1: sleeping on the benches all over the park, all over
Speaker 1: the part was young people I'm talking about eight years old,
Speaker 1: nine years old, their homeless, sleeping in the park. And
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, this issue of black people in
Speaker 1: America still being considered slaves, that we don't have our
Speaker 1: full rights, that we don't we're still in the constitution
Speaker 1: considered to be three five human that has never been changed.
Speaker 1: We we think about the thirteenth Amendment, which says that
Speaker 1: we are free unless we commit a crime and end
Speaker 1: up in prison, in which at that point you can
Speaker 1: be uh sentenced if you will, to indrt indentured servitude,
Speaker 1: which is how we end up making products for every corporation,
Speaker 1: answering the phone for the d m V. We're in
Speaker 1: in prisons working and when you get out of prison
Speaker 1: because you have a criminal background, can't even get a
Speaker 1: job for the same company you were working for while
Speaker 1: you were in prison. The deck is stacked against us.
Speaker 1: It's stacked against us, and you know, we don't have
Speaker 1: time to play around. That's why you try to make
Speaker 1: light laugh at it, because I, like I told you,
Speaker 1: like I watched it and it's a sham, just watching
Speaker 1: this impeachment trial is a sham, Like this man is
Speaker 1: literally running the White House like it's the mafia, Like
Speaker 1: it's not even a joke, Like he's running with mafia rules,
Speaker 1: like he's running it like it's against the organization. And
Speaker 1: you know, and that's what we're dealing with. So when
Speaker 1: you look at what's funny was him and Bloomberger started
Speaker 1: to have this exchange. You know, Bloomberger is somebody that
Speaker 1: I'm not. Definitely we're not found, especially from New York.
Speaker 1: You understand he's stopping frisk and how those things have
Speaker 1: definitely played black people in our in our city. But
Speaker 1: when you look at the tactics, they both have the
Speaker 1: same mentality because they both Bloomberg pretty much gangster New York.
Speaker 1: He said, know what, I don't want to get my terms.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change like he knows. But you got to
Speaker 1: explain that quickly because we gotta wrap it up. But
Speaker 1: you gotta explain when you say he because everybody we're
Speaker 1: not you know what I'm saying. Basically, prior to Bloomberg,
Speaker 1: you were only able to run for two terms. You yeah,
Speaker 1: you occupied occupied the mayor seat for two terms, and
Speaker 1: he somehow enacted some law. He changed, he changed policy,
Speaker 1: and they made him he was able to have three
Speaker 1: terms as a mayor. So this is what Trump is doing.
Speaker 1: So this is familiar to Bloomberg. So Bloomberg is using
Speaker 1: the same exact tactics he's talking about somebody. Bloomberg is
Speaker 1: talking about his head and talking about his skin, and
Speaker 1: he's he's using the same he's using the pigpin tactics. Man,
Speaker 1: He's going they go like Michelle Obama said, when they
Speaker 1: go low, we go high. No blue work. When they
Speaker 1: go low, we just go at. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So and this is and I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna take the beat Trump, you cannot
Speaker 1: be politically correct. You cannot be this calm, savvy person,
Speaker 1: because he is talking to a demographic of people who
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. Like literally, they fed up, they're mad,
Speaker 1: they've been feeling like their country has been taken over
Speaker 1: by these immigrants and bodies blacks and people being celebrated.
Speaker 1: He's saying, nah, we're gonna get this back. So and
Speaker 1: if somebody ain't over here talking today, based the same
Speaker 1: way he's talking to his you cannot beat this man.
Speaker 1: I want you to understand this. This man is playing
Speaker 1: a game. You gotta take the gloves off. He is
Speaker 1: a celebrity um can artist. The man is a car artist.
Speaker 1: He has Listen to me. This man is they got
Speaker 1: a rapist in the White House. He got he got
Speaker 1: hundreds of people who have accused him. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not accused him of criminal activities like there's double digit
Speaker 1: rape people who have accused him. He has. He has
Speaker 1: us over hundreds of accusations of crimes, different types of
Speaker 1: different types of from the people who worked for him.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't pay them a black folks said he treated
Speaker 1: them like garbage while they worked in the Trump and
Speaker 1: his different trump Um facilities. I mean he immigrants have
Speaker 1: issues with him that he had the Trump University which
Speaker 1: ended up being a sham. And it's crazy how you
Speaker 1: can have a college if you will, some educational institution
Speaker 1: that stole from people, that wasn't accredited, all these different things,
Speaker 1: and then you have to pay all these people back
Speaker 1: and still be the president. It's no way Obama could
Speaker 1: have done that. We can listen to me. Next inequity
Speaker 1: inadequacies of Donald Trump. We can we can have a
Speaker 1: whole podcast. It really needs to be we're gonna move on,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of wand down and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: down to my I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Like I just don't get it. You know. When we
Speaker 1: were talking, we were talking about my mixtape, and we're
Speaker 1: talking about certain other things where their support where we
Speaker 1: need supporting the movement and in certain things like we do.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people behind closed doors that come
Speaker 1: to us and tell us how good a job that
Speaker 1: we're doing, and they give us hugs, and they they
Speaker 1: want to pick your brain, and they want to have
Speaker 1: conversations with you, and they want to figure out and
Speaker 1: they want to do all these things in privately, they
Speaker 1: silently and privately celebrate you, but they never publicly support you.
Speaker 1: And I just don't get that. Like to me, that's
Speaker 1: very like I don't understand why. How do you know?
Speaker 1: And they're in the positions because most of the people
Speaker 1: I'm speaking about there in positions to to to just
Speaker 1: give a kind word. If they if they would tweak
Speaker 1: about something that you were doing most of the time,
Speaker 1: it could change your tax bracket, it could change your
Speaker 1: whole life, It could change the struggle that you're actually
Speaker 1: going through. It could change, it could elevate them moment,
Speaker 1: But most of these people don't do it. They'll tell
Speaker 1: you how they love what you do, they tell you
Speaker 1: how they celebrate you, how dope of a person you are,
Speaker 1: how they really um feel you and they love you,
Speaker 1: but they will never ever support you publicly. And I
Speaker 1: just don't get that. And you know, and I want you,
Speaker 1: I want you at home to really come back, because
Speaker 1: we've had this conversation all the time. Like we go
Speaker 1: places and you know, based on the work that we
Speaker 1: do that is is really authentic and comes from a
Speaker 1: place of us really just want to see our people
Speaker 1: in better positions. We travel a lot and we see
Speaker 1: a lot of people, celebrities who come up and they
Speaker 1: talk to us and tell us, you know, I love
Speaker 1: the work you're doing to do this. But these same
Speaker 1: celebrities and people in power, they haven't done anything to
Speaker 1: help the work that we do. They haven't done anything
Speaker 1: to make the work that we do any easier, you know,
Speaker 1: and it really it pains me. I don't you don't
Speaker 1: have any obligation to it. None of us have any
Speaker 1: obligation to anyone but I just want to understand, if
Speaker 1: you celebrate somebody, if you say you believe in them,
Speaker 1: if you say you respect them, and you say that
Speaker 1: what they're doing is so dope, why don't you see
Speaker 1: the need to publicly, publicly I'm gonna say it again,
Speaker 1: publicly support those people. I don't get it either. So
Speaker 1: I have nothing to say on that, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a hurtful thing when you know that people
Speaker 1: who you would imagine, and it's worse when you believe
Speaker 1: that somebody cares about you and they don't support you.
Speaker 1: But you know, I found over time that God will
Speaker 1: just help you see things you need to know and
Speaker 1: make your circle tighter and stronger, because those who have
Speaker 1: been with us have really been with us, and there
Speaker 1: are so many we can't even name. So you know, God,
Speaker 1: what what what's the what's the thing? You always say
Speaker 1: this about when God sent the vote for Noah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was for Noah, and he sent them to the
Speaker 1: vote at first he sent him what it wasn't no
Speaker 1: it was no, wait a minute, Noah's are hold on?
Speaker 1: Wasn't that just it was just it just it's a
Speaker 1: tail where they said, oh, it's a tail. It's not
Speaker 1: in the Bible because I beat that thing. So but
Speaker 1: basically God sent it was a man that was on
Speaker 1: the sea and he kept he was waiting for God.
Speaker 1: He said, God's gonna save me. So he sent the boat.
Speaker 1: So he sent the boat and he was like, get on.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, God's gonna save me, you know.
Speaker 1: Then he sent somebody in a little canoe and he said,
Speaker 1: God's gonna save me. And he said a big ship,
Speaker 1: A big ship, a helicopter. He said, no, waiting on God,
Speaker 1: and he drowned. Thing that they put they sent down
Speaker 1: the vote like I said, no, I don't worry about
Speaker 1: God's gonna save me. And he said when he died,
Speaker 1: he drowned and he said, God talk preacher, come on,
Speaker 1: he said, God, I thought you was gonna say it
Speaker 1: was waiting for you to come save me. Said, well,
Speaker 1: I sent you a boat. I sent you a helicopter.
Speaker 1: You know, I said you could do you ain't get it.
Speaker 1: So the more of the story is, you know, you
Speaker 1: never know what help looks like, and we just got
Speaker 1: to be able to to see it when it comes
Speaker 1: right and not worry about what who isn't but be
Speaker 1: grateful for what God does, and I mean I'm grateful
Speaker 1: for those who support us in private or people who
Speaker 1: don't support us. But I'm not that type of person.
Speaker 1: You know. If I say I'm gonna do something, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm authentic. If I say that I care for you,
Speaker 1: if I say that I support you, then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let the world know. But for those of you who
Speaker 1: not that way and you want to secretly support us,
Speaker 1: we take donations. You know what I'm saying. You want
Speaker 1: to give private donations, and that type of secret I
Speaker 1: can deal with, but don't secretly do nothing. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you want to give secret donations,
Speaker 1: they don't secretly do nothing. But we appreciate donations until Freedom.
Speaker 1: You can go to until Freedom page and you can
Speaker 1: donati until Freedom right now. Because the work is always
Speaker 1: needs to be fun, ongoing. So we're gonna wrap it
Speaker 1: up another episode. Like we said it. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: always agree, We're not gonna always be right, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna always be old. Yeah, that's how we owned it.