1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is mick Shot, 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it's time for another edition of 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: mix Shots inside the SWBC podcast studio Here at the 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Beautiful Star in Fresco. We are now one week away 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: from Draft Day, the first round of the National Football 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: League Draft twenty twenty two. Everson Walls has all of 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: his draft research taking care of. He's got lots he 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: wants to spew out over the next Last week, I'm 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: just listening today, by the way, the introduction. Let's see, 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: we got it right this week? Right, you said what 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: I said? The music? Yeah, we didn't do yeah, come on, now, 15 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: we didn't do that last week? You got I felt 16 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: like I was naked last week. You know, we didn't 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: get I get the boom. I gotta do my shoot 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: the thing, and you know I didn't get through that. 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: Just go, just go, y'all went last week? That was crazy, 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: all right? And Mickey Spagnola has not one, not two, 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: but three legal pads filled with notes from the last 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: week that you watch the trash over the too. We 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: don't know what trash is over get all that trash, 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: and my three notebooks aren't. Just think that's big green 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: NFL draft scouting notebook. Yeah, but yours is neat. Yeah, well, 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: thank yous. That's right. That's what you're supposed to be 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: able to read it. Yeah and find it. You know 28 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: you have the stuff out up over there. Well, I 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff just in case I need 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: to research. You know, when you get a little older, 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: you start forgetting things you're supposed to research before you though, 32 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: I've done some research as a matter of Look at 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: this page I spent yesterday morning of those cowboys are 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: drafting the ones in pink these are This is a 35 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: page of the free agent offensive linemen in the league, 36 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: and I went through to find out how many guys 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: have these, how many games of these guys started? What's 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: available out on the open market? Do you have to 39 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: take a guard in the first round? Can't take a guard? 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: That's right, you can't take a guard. So what are 41 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: the other options out there? If I mean, you can't 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: take any more than one position in the first round 43 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: unless you're going to trade your whole draft and get 44 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: up into the first round and you're only going to 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: take two players in the whole draft. H And so 46 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: I figure, you know what you need to see what 47 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: else is available out there, and these guys on this 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: sheet right here will probably well, there are there are 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: several guys on this sheet right here who are veteran 50 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: free agents who don't have jobs right now, who in 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two would do a better job playing left 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: guard for you than a guy that even that you 53 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: draft in the first round perhaps, and especially if they 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: don't have a job. On May first, that's right after 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: the draft, and everybody's bringing in their guys and they're 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: all excited about him. And if you don't have a job, 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: you're knocking on the door right and saying, okay, I'm available, 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: and the price goes down. And I'm just talking about 59 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: for this year. Yeah, the first round, a first round pick, 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: you're drafted him not only for this year, but you're 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: drafted him for the next five years, correct, and then 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: hopefully you're you wanted to sign him to a second contract. 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: That's like a Maria Cooper. Does that sound like a 64 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Marie Cooper in what in what way we signed him? 65 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: He came on. Uh, well they didn't get we didn't 66 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: get him a one year deal. Yeah, we came we 67 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: bothered me in for the Hopes who having five years 68 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: with him, and then we signed it to another deal. Right. Yeah, 69 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about the rookie the second the second contract, which, 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: by the way that you brought that up. Cleveland redid 71 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: his contract the twenty million in health. Yeah, in production 72 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: or failure. Uh, they turned his twenty million dollars base salary. 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: They paid him eighteen point eight million in a restructured 74 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: bonus and spread that over five years. Okay, paid him 75 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: a one point uh one two base salary this year 76 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: and his cap hit his only four point nine million, wow, 77 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: and they spread it over the eighteen million they gave 78 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: him at signing bonus, So he gets that already. And uh. 79 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: And they put two voidable years on the on the 80 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: back end of the three years that remained on his contract. 81 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: And so while the Cowboys paid six million dollars in 82 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: dead money to get rid of them, they redid his 83 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: contract over basically three years, and so his cap hit 84 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: for this year for the Cleveland Browns four points four 85 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: point eight nine six million dollars. Yeah, so they reduced 86 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: twenty million to four point eight nine to six. So 87 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys could have done that save fifteen millions. They 88 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: could have if they want to, right, So it was 89 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: conceivable that for a four point nine million dollars a 90 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: hit on your salary cap right now, the Cowboys could 91 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: have redone that deal correct and kept him and kept him. 92 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: So it was why did they not do it? Was 93 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: their decision, you know. They can say, well it was 94 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: cap saving, but what it was was they didn't want 95 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: to invest more money in him down the road, like 96 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: push more money back down the road, you know. And 97 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: it's the same decision they made with Lele Collins, right, 98 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: they didn't have to do that. They decided from a 99 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: cap saving standpoint, they can absorb his dead money and 100 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: then pay Terrence Steel no more than probably eight hundred 101 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: and some thousand dollars to start at right tackle. I mean, 102 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: that was the conscious decision. Now, you got to be right, right, 103 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: because it's not like you know, you had your hand 104 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: twisted to do that. That doesn't make me feel any 105 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: better that it regl ass to Cooper. I wasn't trying 106 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: to make that saddens me. That saddens me that that 107 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, they had a chance to keep him and 108 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: didn't want to keep him. You know what that means 109 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: They've got somebody and more several guys that might be 110 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: available to them in this draft who they feel they'd 111 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: rather have right now and on into the future. And 112 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: free agency. You don't think so itself. We've got some 113 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: good free agents. I mean you you mentioned the offensive 114 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: linemen available and free. And see, if I had more 115 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: time this morning, I would have done wide receivers. Too 116 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: busy right now. Pretty I just knew he's gonna ask 117 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: me about wide receivers. I just didn't have time to 118 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: do it this morning. But there I can do the 119 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: same process on wide receivers. So there are receivers out there. 120 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to get my money right here. Um, Jarvis 121 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: Landry was visiting the Saints yesterday. Uh, five time pro bowler. 122 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: But again, when you talk about a guy like that, 123 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: it's like, well, how much how much is gonna cost? 124 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Because his base salary in twenty twenty one was twelve 125 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: point five million, So he ain't he doesn't figure he's 126 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: coming cheap, right, We're not you know, bottom basement bargain 127 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: price here um. But again last year, for whatever reason, 128 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, he had fifty two catches for five hundred 129 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: and seventy yards and two touchdowns. So does he have 130 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: to this is his ninth season. Has he got to 131 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: re establish himself as a top wide receiver? And how 132 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: much are you gonna pay for that? And that's what 133 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: it comes down to those guys right now, right, how 134 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: much are you gonna pay? Which is a matter of 135 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: fact and will be careful how I say this with 136 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel asking for a trade, Well, here's why. I 137 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: heard people talk about it for ten minutes this morning 138 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: on the radio, and they didn't get to the reason why. 139 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: He's in the last year of his contract at three 140 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: point nine million, and he just saw these wide receivers 141 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: get paid thirty million, twenty eight and a half million, right, 142 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: and he's thinking, Hm, I'm maybe more valuable than they. 143 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: That reasoning never came up, and though, no, no, it 144 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: was like, I don't understand what happened. He had such 145 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: a good relationship there, and it's like, well, here's what happened. 146 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: And the last year of his base salary because he's 147 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: a second round pick, right, so he's only gets four 148 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: years that last year. There's no more guaranteed money, by 149 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: the way, So that's what this is all about. Yeah, 150 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: how could things have gone wrong? He was the guy 151 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: carrying the boom box on the field that stadium, was 152 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: the called his own number. He called his own number, 153 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: and yeah cowboy and if San Francisco watched the game, 154 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: he's the reason they beat the Cowboys. Right, So I 155 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: was just throw that out and and oh but but 156 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: he liked a tweet of a picture of him in 157 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: a Cowboys uniform with Ceedee Lamb in the picture. That's 158 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: that's good. That's that's where where we're living in today, 159 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: where you you've got you can push your own there. 160 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: They're very easy. Well, and it's in members of our profession. 161 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: Do you think he thought of all that by himself 162 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: for his age? Oh, there must be something to this 163 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: because he liked to tweet with him at the Cowboys uniform. 164 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: He wants to come play for the Cowboys. He also 165 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: want he also wants to make twenty five million dollars 166 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: a year. He ain't coming to the Cowboys. And it 167 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: just shows you how quickly social media can take this 168 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: thing over right, scrubbed his Instagram account. That's right, as Kyler. 169 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: As Kyler got his Instagram back, going, yeah, you don't 170 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: have to be a genius just to make a bunch 171 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: of crap up. And by the way, Kyler's about the 172 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: same boat that the debot is, right right, So um, 173 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: all right, so what what do you want to get 174 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: to on your legal pad? Well, um, I'm trying to 175 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: remember the timing of last week? Did we did? We 176 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: were on Thursday? That was Thursday, Kelvin Joseph. Was it 177 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: came out after Thursday or Friday? Yeah, of course it did. So. Yeah, 178 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: we spent all last Thursday talking about the primary needs. 179 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. We talked about needs. So that 180 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: I got the questions. I got the text message from 181 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: Bill he goes, wow, you might put cornerback on it. 182 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Not again. We just did this last year, right, we did? 183 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: All right? So, I mean he's out here working out. Yeah, so, 184 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: but you just you don't know. Now they may know, 185 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: we don't know. You know, it's not like what's going 186 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: to happen with them. And by the way, the NFL 187 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: could have a say in it also, So if if 188 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: there is a possible suspension that we could be dealing 189 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: with this season two. So you're talking about your fourth 190 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: corner who that's who? So what realistic? Okay, let's say 191 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: wipe the slate clean and you got Anthony Brown? Do 192 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: you got Treyvon Diggs, you got Jordan Lewis. Who's your 193 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: top three corners? Okay? Where do you want your second 194 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: round draft pick cornerback uh to be slotted this year 195 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: on the depth chart? I want him challenging for one 196 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: of those other two top three spots. I'm gonna give 197 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs his spot, right, Anthony Brown's in the last 198 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: year of his contract. Jordan Lewis. Okay, they signed him, 199 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: but he might have two years look it up here 200 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. He signed a three 201 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: year deal. But you would like to challenge him, right, 202 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: And that's what his job should have been. His eyes 203 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: should have been squarely on Jordan Lewis in his position. 204 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: Yeah to me, that's that's that's all you're looking or 205 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: however it worked out because if if he was good 206 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: enough to start at left corner, Anthony Brown has played 207 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: the slot, he can move inside. If they thought he'd 208 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: do it better than Jordan Lewis. Okay, you look, that's 209 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: what they did last year at times? Right, all right, 210 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: you look at the inventory and the at cornerback and 211 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: what's left on their contract, and you were right. Jordan 212 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: Lewis has two years left on his contract. Anthony is 213 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: going into the second year of his contract. If you 214 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: look at, okay, who is going to be what cornerbacks 215 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: are going this time next year? If they don't do 216 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: anything with anybody's contract between now and next year at 217 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: this time, what is your inventory at cornerback and what's 218 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: left on their deal? Okay, Trayvon Diggs would have we'll 219 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: be going into his last year. No, he should have 220 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: four years. He's going into his third. He's going into 221 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: his third right now, so he'll be going into his 222 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: fourth year. In the second round draft pick, right, he's 223 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: going to the last year. This is next year, twenty 224 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: twenty three. Okay, Because I think when you're looking at 225 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: the draft, we get caught up in Okay, what needs 226 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: they have right now? Right? What about the needs they're 227 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: going to have a year from now and the year 228 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,479 Speaker 1: after that and the year after that. And that's why 229 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: the second round pick on Joseph that's right, and so 230 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: Diggs a year from now, Diggs will be going into 231 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: his last year. Lewis is going into his last year now, 232 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph would be going would have two years left 233 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: on his deal, and then to Sean Wright as well, 234 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: and Anthony Browns and Anthony Brown's a free agent next year. 235 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: So you've got a need a year from now for 236 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: a starting cornerback because Anthony Brown's deal is up, He's 237 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: going into the last year of his deal. And if 238 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: you just look at this year, he would at least 239 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: been your at the very least right compete. If he 240 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: doesn't win, he's your fourth corner. So if there's one injury, 241 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: he's on the field right now. After that, all you 242 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: got is Nishan Right and Kron Brown. If there's no 243 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph, CG CG C J. Goodwin is a corner 244 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: but he's a special teams guy, right, That's why he's here. 245 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: So let's let's say pick the number of games. Let's 246 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: say Joseph is out for for this, Okay, for a 247 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: number of games, then I mean you've got a definite 248 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: need right now for a cornerback. Yes, yea, And he 249 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: hopes It's only a suspension, right, so anyway, there's a 250 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: need there safety. A year from now. Curse has a 251 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: two year deal, so he'll be he'll have one year left. 252 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Hooker has one year left, and Mukuamu would have two 253 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: years left a year from now, and Wison he's going 254 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: into his last year. He's a free agent after this year, 255 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: so I mean, you can make you And by the way, 256 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: Demante CAZy okay, who have apparently visited the Seahawks this week, 257 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: how many snaps did he play? What was his percentage 258 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: of naps that he played last year. I'm gonna guess. 259 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: I can look it up, but I'm gonna guess off 260 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: the top of my head. It was about he played. 261 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking, Neil, I was stay Neil, Yes, Yes, 262 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: And so we're sitting here and thinking, oh, we got 263 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: safety taken care of, okay, because they signed Curse, they 264 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: signed Hooker, and they got Donovan. Wow. That's another but 265 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: the way they the way Dan Quinn and Joe Witt 266 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: employed their secondary guys and the sub packages, they used 267 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: those safeties a lot last year, and that was another 268 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: conscious decision to not Now I don't know if they 269 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: loadballed him on trying to resign him, but they didn't 270 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: make it a priority to bring them back. Right. Well, 271 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: when you look at the end of the season, his 272 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: productivity plays, I guess, went up, but plays made went down, yes, 273 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: And that was something that was glaring. Plays played went up, right, yes, 274 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: plays play when, but plays made went down. And so 275 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: you know, after the Charges game, you know, man, I 276 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: was thinking that he was that guy, you know, because 277 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: he had those kind of instincts, you know, and he 278 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: showed them early on in the first two to three 279 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: maybe four games. After that, man, it just seemed like 280 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: he became tired and a long season, like the grind 281 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: got to him. And let's face it, Hooker didn't exactly 282 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: you know, stand out right. He had a game flashed there, 283 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: That's what I thought, Bill, he flashed, Well, I really 284 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: thought that, but it wasn't like a consistent But he 285 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: hears again as a guy that now has some tread, 286 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: had lost some tread on the tire, and he's you know, 287 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: he has had an injury history, and so what if 288 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: you lose him. So the point being, when when they 289 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: approached this draft, you can go across the board with 290 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: basically every position group and you can make the case 291 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: that there is a need, which is why I'm big 292 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: on best player available. Yeah, and you know when Steven 293 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: Stephen talked about it, But every team in the league 294 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: is like this. I mean, that's the way the league is. 295 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: The way the league is designed, where you know you're 296 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: you you only have these guys. It's like college. You 297 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: have to prioritize a group, not just individuals, but the 298 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: entire group. You have to figure out if you want 299 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: to prioritize that group of that And when they were 300 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: trying to pin Stephen down the other day, I guess 301 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: it was Tuesday, on his radio segment about positions and this, 302 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: he goes, we want to draft good players, meaning just 303 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: what Bill said. It's like you're not gonna sit there 304 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: and say I gotta have a defensive end. You say 305 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: that you got to have a defensive end and you 306 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: end up with Taco Charlton. Right. You can't just go 307 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: in and say I need this, um we got we 308 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: we have to we we like you said, we have 309 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: to have just get me a wide receiver though to 310 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: have let me go the guy want to quickly correct 311 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: on the Casey snaps it wasn't ninety four he was 312 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: seventy nine percent. He had he had over nine hundred 313 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: snaps on defense, uh last year, and it was so 314 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: that's seventy nine percent. Look at it starts. I bet 315 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: it starts for right at fourteen fifteen starts, fifteen fifteen starts, 316 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: seventeen games, fifteen starts. Yeah, and we always talked about 317 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: how you know, in the second day, it doesn't matter 318 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: who starts, you're gonna get a lot of playing time 319 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: if you're part of the nickel even don pack, that's right, 320 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: that's right. And but I mean, so that is a 321 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: starting safety who they can think that they're replacing with Hooker. Okay, 322 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: but but even what using Hooker more and you got 323 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson right now, you brought back jay Ron Curse, 324 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: but now you're you're thin on the back end, so 325 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: you're not as flexible to use him as one of 326 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: those linebackers. Sort of, Yeah, it's Curse gonna um some 327 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: of the role that Neil had last year. Well, then 328 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: that to me, that would depend on what Wilson's doing, right, 329 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, and they need him to step up the 330 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: way he was before he got hit. If they if 331 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: you could do that, then we are looking at some 332 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: flexibility here, not necessarily at the cornerback position, but certainly 333 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: within that interior from the slot position on the end. 334 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: So those first three picks, and and that's why when 335 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: Stephen answered the question about trading up, he goes, yeah, 336 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: he goes, but when you trade up, and I'm paraphrasing, 337 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: you're giving up a good player. Meaning if I'm going 338 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: to trade up in the first it's going to be 339 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: my second or third round pick, and your second and 340 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: third round pick should be a potential starter for you, right, 341 00:20:53,920 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: And and so trading up where they're at, somebody's got 342 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: a fall, right, it's got to be Dez Bryant quality. 343 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: And I went back and looked, and in six of 344 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: the last eight years of the draft, they stayed right 345 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: where they were and made the pick. One year they 346 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: didn't have a first so that's one of the two 347 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: years they didn't Cooper, and that was for the Amira 348 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: Cooper trade. And then the other one was basically this 349 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: last one. They trade it down to get a third 350 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: round pick and Parsons and ended up with Chauncey Golston. So, 351 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: but you have to go back to twenty twelve for 352 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: the last time. They actually traded up in the first 353 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: round and it was from fourteen to six to take 354 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: Morris Claiborne, and they could have gotten Michael Bruckers at fourteen. 355 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: Brockers was the second round pick they gave up. I 356 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: believe Brockers nos Ruckers went fourteen fourteen, okay, so and 357 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: the second round pick they gave up, which was forty 358 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: five I have overall, they could have taken Bobby Wagner there, right, 359 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: who went forty So what Steven I will give up? 360 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: So so basically give up a good player. So basically 361 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: to his point, they basically gave up Michael Brockers and 362 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner from O Clayborne in that draft. Right, And 363 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: that's and how did Brockers do. Brocker's still playing. He's 364 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: still playing great. He's really good. Yeah. I mean he's 365 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: not the type player that is going to get a 366 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: lot of sacks, but as a defensive tackle, run defender 367 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: and just a brock solid guy. I mean he was 368 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: with Cole yeah, big yeah, I mean he's something like that. 369 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: And he and he'll wind up playing about as long 370 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: as Larry Cold. It was about fifteen years in the 371 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: late and if and if Randy to that point, Randy White, 372 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: I was doing some shows with Randy White, you know, 373 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: several years ago, and he did some work with Michael Brockers, 374 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: I think through his agent. I don't know if cast 375 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Lion represents him or whatever, but Brocker's agent got Randy 376 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: to work with them, and Randy would just rave about Brockers. Yeah. 377 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: But and MO, I mean, if you get a sixth 378 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: round pick, sixth pick in the draft, I mean you 379 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: want a second and third contract on that guy. Right, 380 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: And Claybourne, I think his second was a one year 381 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: deal because he was coming back from injury and then 382 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: that was it. It didn't matter because he played, he 383 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: didn't play well. He couldn't stay healthy. He didn't play well, 384 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: he just couldn't stay healthy. So yeah, so this moving 385 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: up moving down stuff, Their nature lately has been to 386 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: stay put. And did you like the move down in 387 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, Yes, which they moved down and they took 388 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Travis Frederick at thirty one, and then Terrence Williams was 389 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: the guy that they took from with their third round pick, right, 390 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: that they got by moving down the trade with San Francisco. 391 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: So if they want a guard at twenty four, they 392 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: need to move down and get something. All years that 393 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: you guys are speaking of, how well did the free 394 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: agency market play. I didn't have time to do the 395 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: research of that. I mean, come on, that is I 396 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: mean that that has everything to do with it, um 397 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: because sometimes t Y Hilton's out there, sometimes Landry's out there. 398 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, Cole Beasley's out there. Yeah, bring back cold, 399 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: damn it, let's do it all right to that point, 400 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, do the Cowboys need a 401 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: in this offense? A slot? I'm not saying Cole Beasley. 402 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying do they need a slot receiver like Cole Beasley? 403 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Kind of a chain mover slot receiver to go to 404 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: on third down when we come back? 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So, Kevin Shepler, your opportunity is right 451 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: now to get in here on mix shots all right? 452 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: Do the Cowboys need a slot receiver or could they 453 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: use a slot receiver like a Cole Beasley type UM 454 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: or in this offense? Would you rather see them use 455 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: what they I mean they've got can I get in 456 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb he can play in the slot. You can 457 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: draft guys that can can get Reversto can play inside outside. 458 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: I need to play somebody to can play, and preferably 459 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: somebody to can do maybe all three um and not 460 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: just so you would pervide somebody in there. Because Cole 461 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: Is is slotted as a yeah, and he is, even 462 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: though he doesn't think he is. It's hard to see 463 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: him on the outside. I mean he'll get lost downfield 464 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: for the quarterback. Don't ask any questions, Just don't ask 465 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: him any And did do is Dalton Schultz kind of 466 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: fill that role a little bit? Yeah, As far as 467 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: a chain mover, there isn't no doubt. Right, So of 468 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: course they had Witten too with Colby's I was reading 469 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff and I found if you wanted 470 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: a slot guy, one of the guys that came up 471 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: could be available. I don't know if it's first or second, 472 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: but the guy from Western Michigan, sky Moore, he's five 473 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: nine one milk too short. Yes, first, so that's my 474 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: question because because that's why they need some big, physical 475 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: white receivers. That was our problem last year. I fuss 476 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: about it all the time, getting pressure with the fore 477 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: man rush. They started sitting down on our routes, sitting 478 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: down on the short routes. Oh, just coming up and 479 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: jamming us at the line of Squimmas takes away all 480 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: all the timing that you're gonna have in this type 481 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: of office. If you can't hold off a four man rush, 482 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: Chris Beam, you couldn't show us Drake London. You couldn't 483 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: show show Everson, Drake London. If you get a chance, 484 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: you couldn't. You couldn't get off the line of scrimmage. 485 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: You need receivers that can fight their way through that 486 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: jam and still keep the timing with their quart Okay, 487 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: how about this guy, North Dakota State, Christian Watson. I 488 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: love him, he loves He is six four and ran 489 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: a four three six at the combine. Wow, uh any average? 490 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: Now again it's North Dakota State. Okay, but I know 491 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: you you probably are not going to diminish that. No, 492 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm not with my playing. He had he averaged twenty 493 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: point four yards per catch. And the last that's our man. 494 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: That's Christian Watson. Right, there's Watson, you know who. He 495 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: reminds me of Jordy Nelson. I saw a note on 496 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: him and it pointed out that Cooper Cup was the 497 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: last FCS wide receiver taken in the top seventy five 498 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: of a draft, and this guy might be the next one. 499 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: We're for those of you not watching, we are watching 500 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: Christian Watson right now. Some some footage of him. I 501 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: love London a little bit more in Christian Watson. Here 502 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Watson four three six A one four five ten yards split, 503 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: which is which is incredible? One third five forty five 504 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: ten yards spot, just getting thirty stands, thirty eight thirty 505 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: eight and a half vertical eleven four did you say? 506 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Eleven four broad jump? Is cone? Drill? Was sub seven 507 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: eleven four broad that's right. And he had eighteen bench 508 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: reps too, so he's a strong guy. Also, so he 509 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: is six four two o eight. I went back and 510 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: looked football player. Yeah, and he's got an explosion. I 511 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: mean that's what those measurables tell you right there. So 512 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: how about this one? And I think this was in 513 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: his career there he had four touchdowns of at least 514 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: sixty five yards or more. So he was running by 515 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: people right running by him. After another debot, he could 516 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: be running through him like debo. Yeah. And so Jordy 517 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: Nelson six he came out. He was six three two 518 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: seventeen at the combine. And so this Christian Watson six 519 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: four two eight and Nelson ran a four five one. 520 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: Watson's faster at four three to six. Nelson's ten yards 521 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: split was one fifty, which is still blazing. It's just 522 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: the same if you if you think of Jordy Nelson 523 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: back at Kansas State he beat Texas with in the 524 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: punt return game. He was a lot of the same 525 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: type stuff that Christian and Watson does. Here, what's the 526 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: kid's name in Pittsburgh, See the one that held the 527 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: ball too long when they were trying to complete a 528 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: drive a touchdown. Here, you're talking Steelers, Steelers, Yes, eleven Claypool, 529 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool. That's what reminds me. Yeah, Yeah, that's really 530 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: reminds Yeah, same speed, same size, yep. Yeah, yeah, that's 531 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: what I see when when I see him. All Right, 532 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: Drake London, Uh, you're talking about a big guy who 533 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: can Here you go, here's here's your Drake London. Right here, 534 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: there were fifteen for your Southern cow Trojans. Now that 535 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys will consider themselves very fortunate if Drake London 536 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: is still there at twenty four. There's a lot of people, 537 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: including me, who have him right at the top of 538 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: the wide receiver ranking him and Garrett Wilson, Ohio State. Um, 539 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: glad you asked. I'm glad you asked. Okay. Now, he 540 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: did not run a forty okay, And that's the knock 541 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: against him is his long speed. And he had a 542 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: personal pro day just last week and he opted not 543 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: to do any of those measurables. He didn't mean. He 544 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: is six four six yeah, six four two nineteen okay 545 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: is his size. These are the numbers that should impress you. 546 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: In eight games last year, guess how many catches he 547 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: had in eight games eight games total, eight games total 548 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: last year. Guess how many he had a fractured right ankle. 549 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: And so that's why he only played few games. Thirty 550 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: two catches and eight I was gonna say forty if 551 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: that was right, Okay, go ahead, eighty eight? Oh no, Wow, 552 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: he had eighty eight catches in eight games, yes, for 553 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: over a thousand yards. Uh seven touchdowns. The year before 554 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: six games thirty three catches. In the year before that, 555 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: thirteen games, nine starts, he had ninety three catches. I mean, 556 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: this is a highly productive guy. Here, get this about him. 557 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: Basketball player too the top. He's Mike Evans. Okay, he's 558 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: Mike Evans. He played for the sc basketball team after 559 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: his freshman year playing football. Yeah, okay. He averaged on 560 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: his high school basketball team. He averaged twenty nine points 561 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: in twelve rebounds a game for more Park, which is 562 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: a big school in California, of course. Yeah, yeah, it's 563 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: on the way to Thousand Oaks. Yea, all right, next 564 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: to all state football ambass So he's not gonna be 565 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: there that you wouldn't think, although there's some who got 566 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: him mocked, do you know. And here, and here's the 567 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: bad part for the Cowboys on these wide receivers in 568 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: the first round. There's too many teams ahead of them 569 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: that need wide receivers and a lot of these guys 570 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: are going to be gone. So that's why I was 571 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: looking at that Watson guy. And yeah, but I think 572 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: he'll he may be gone by fifty six, with the 573 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: Cowboys picking get him around second. Yeah. And so that's 574 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: why when people say, well, twenty four is too high 575 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: to draft him, Well, if that if that's the player 576 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: you want, right and he's not gonna be there at 577 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: fifty six, then twenty four is not too high to 578 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: draft him. Well do you remember the grief the Cowboys 579 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: got when they took Travis Frederick at the end of 580 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: the first round. Well, that's taking him. You could have 581 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: got him in the second or a third and it's like, well, 582 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: how do you know that? Five Pro Bowls later? Yeah, 583 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: and still bemoaning the fact that he decided to retire, 584 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: by the way, which is why we're in the predicament 585 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: we're in right now. Yeah. So anyway, I still have 586 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: hope for Tyler Beotish. You got to remember that was 587 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: his first year to start in the NFL. First year 588 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: so because he played, he started I think it was 589 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: four games as a rookie. It didn't play portally, but 590 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: they decided to keep continuity after he got hurt and 591 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: the little Joe Looney in there, and I think that 592 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people are thinking, okay, would be Oddish 593 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: who was a week link because as they were using 594 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: in preseason Connor Williams at center, and that was a 595 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: failed experience. He never couldn't snap the ball. But the reason, 596 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: but the main reason that they were playing Connor Williams 597 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: at center in the preseason was in case they had 598 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: an injury to Tyler Bodis. They wanted to see where 599 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: they were could Connor Williams the back They figured out 600 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: that no, that is not an option for Connor william 601 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: I bought Beiodis went down for him to slide over him. 602 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: And if Connor Williams could do that, that would open 603 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: up the guard spot for Connor McGovern who got the 604 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: opportunity and didn't really did not. Now having said that, okay, 605 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: Mark Stepnowski was not Mark Snipnowski in nineteen eighty nine 606 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: when they drafted him in the third round, by the way, 607 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't get good until about ninety one, 608 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: and he didn't hardly play in Remember they switched towards 609 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: the end of the year. Tom Rafferty, they knew he 610 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: was done, but he started. I met ten eleven games 611 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: that year before they put step in. Um So I 612 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: just think there's something there would would be idish that 613 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: the center position is not as important as the guard position. 614 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: And I think you still can get a guard in 615 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: the second round or in the late in the first 616 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: you gotta trade. I still say you can get a good, 617 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: very good wide receiver in free agency, and you can 618 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: push that wide receiver drafting down the line. You can 619 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: kick that can down the line if you have the 620 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: money to pay for it. Right and after May, we'll know, see, 621 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: And that's where I right, what they're as will see. 622 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: That's why why I think the best player available is 623 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: the route exactly, because I think you can go across 624 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: the board at every piece you want to eliminate. You 625 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: want to eliminate a position in the first round, probably 626 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: not taking a quarterback, right, probably not taking a running back. 627 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: Tight end, well, the tight end is based on what's 628 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: out there, and these guys don't. These prospects although there are. 629 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: It's a deep tight end right there are. There's not 630 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: much difference in about the top five or six guys 631 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: right in my opinion, and they're they're gonna be so 632 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: you're probably not. They're gonna start going off the board 633 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: mid to late second. But look on look at defense 634 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: and tackle one of those monsters from Georgia's available linebackers. Linebackers, 635 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: we talk cornerback every right, Yes, yes, got be someone's 636 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: gotta be there, right, and so as long as you 637 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: don't reach and jump over what your board is showing, right, 638 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: and and so in the case of because a lot 639 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: of people are mocking one of these guards to the 640 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys at twenty four Kenyan Green from Texas A and 641 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: the Embers and Johnson from Boston College, I think that 642 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys, if they're going to take one of 643 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: those guards in the first round, then they are projecting 644 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: that in my opinion, any player that you're taking in 645 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: the first round in this draft, because I think this 646 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: is a deep draft where you can get Pro Bowl 647 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: type player in the first round, you're projecting that that 648 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: player is going to be a Pro Bowl player and 649 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: you're going to want to sign him to a second contract. 650 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: Any better be able to play tackle in mine? Well, yeah, 651 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: my book go for that too. But if if am 652 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: I getting greedy, but if yeah, you are, but you 653 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: would you would take Zack Martin or Travis Frederick at 654 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: twenty four. Yeah, but they knew by the way, they 655 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: knew Zach Martin could play tackle. He played tackle at 656 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: in order dame right and and and stop me. I 657 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: think I told this story just recently that in the 658 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl that year, he was the only guy that 659 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: could block Aaron Donald, and Aaron Donald was the only 660 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: guy that could get buys Zach Martin. It was a 661 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: great show in those practices, believe me, and and both 662 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: of them, and they got close to Donald right. Donald 663 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: went thirteen. So they sat there at sixteen because they 664 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: thought they were going to get one of those defensive guys. 665 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: Donald went thirteen and Ryan Shazier went fifteen. Pittsburgh took 666 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: him right before him. Otherwise the Cowboys probably were going 667 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: to take him. That's why this whole debate about Johnny 668 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: Manziel was just ridiculous. They weren't gonna take Johnny Manziel, 669 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: and they said, Okay, we'll just settle. We'll settle for 670 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: Zach Martin. Well, I'm gonna grasp at straws once again. 671 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: So did you see any offensive guard that was performing 672 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: the way Zach Martin performed when he came out? Did 673 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: you see any guard that's worth draft? Yeah? That draft 674 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: or this this draft, because you're comparing you know, Zach Martin. 675 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: You right, he's first first round, you know, capable. So 676 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: what about no, No, there's not there's not a home, 677 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: there's not a Hall of famers out there. And I 678 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: keep reading about these guys and strength, weaknesses, what they are, 679 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: and again I just couldn't get over Stephen Jones putting 680 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: out how hard it is these days to project offensive 681 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: linemen from coming from college how they're going to play 682 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: in the NFL because the college game is so different. Right, 683 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: they know they're pass blocking right, right, and when they 684 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: run it's usually run option. They're running from shot blocking 685 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: maybe yeah, And so it's a different game in the NFL. 686 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: And he's pointed out it's hard to project the offensive lineman, 687 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: and he's right, So what about the defensive lineman? They're 688 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: always looking for rush? So do they have to be 689 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, more discerning about how they play the run? 690 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's got to be something when you 691 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: look at defensive ends, because when we talk defensive ends, 692 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: it's always well, these are his sacks or these are 693 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: his prussures. Okay, what happens? That's because that's all he 694 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: has to do? What if they run at him? Can 695 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: he set the edge? You know? And that's what I 696 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: noticed about Dante Fowler by the way he he was 697 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: playing three four defenses, and he doesn't look to me 698 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: to be a three four defensive end. He's a four 699 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: three defensive end. He's certainly not a for three four 700 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: defensive end. He'd be a three four outside linebacker. Yeah, 701 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: that's what I meant. That's what I meant outside linebacker, right, 702 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: And you know that would be like saying, Okay, we're 703 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna move to Marcus Lawrence to linebacker in a three four. 704 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna work well, but you know, you're in 705 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: nickel seventy percent right time, right, and those three four 706 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: teams they're they're they're rushing four, you know, and so 707 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: the is he is he stand up rusher even in 708 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: their in their nickel. Like for instance, Everson Griffin when 709 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: he came here, you know, he'd been in at fourty 710 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: three in Minnesota with a hand on the ground and 711 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: he could not adapt to uh, standing in rushing the 712 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: passer here. Um so um. You know to that point, though, 713 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: like on Jordan Davis, as far as the defensive lineman 714 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: who can defend the run, you know, Jordan Davis, he 715 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: is a monster at doing what he can do, but 716 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: he's not a He's not a guy that will get 717 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: to the quarterback a lot, right, But I think as 718 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: far as Uh as shutting down his area of the field, 719 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: whether it's the run game or pushing the pocket, you know, 720 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: then yeah, it's great. And so it's going to be 721 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: very interesting to see where he goes because he doesn't 722 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: have the ability to really to sack the quarterback Devant 723 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: Wyatt does. But there's some kind of same there's there's 724 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: some things in his game that that uh, you know 725 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: where he could slide also, right, and he's not I 726 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: don't think DeVante Watt, And he's not Gerald McCoy, you know, right, 727 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: who was a third pick in the draft or Aaron 728 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: Donald And neither one of those guys are in Doma 729 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: Kung Sue. You know it was a second pick in 730 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And so yeah, we 731 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: can look at you can you can see on YouTube 732 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: some great plays and dominating plays, but are they doing 733 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: it on a consistent basis The big like with Jordan Davis, 734 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: when you look at Georgia, he was only on the 735 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: field first and second down. They took him off the field. 736 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: In fact, the Georgia front seven guys. They were rotating 737 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: all those guys in And so Jordan Davis is only 738 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: playing like twenty snaps a game in college at Georgia. 739 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: And so do you want to spend a first round 740 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: draft pick on a guy now at twenty four it's 741 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: a little bit different. But but will a team at 742 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: fourteen want to spend a first round they're fourteen pick 743 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: in the draft on a guy who you have to 744 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: take off the field? Well, I don't know. We don't 745 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: know that that they're gonna have to project that with 746 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: him because they haven't seen it in college with him 747 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: that he can play that many snaps at that largest size. 748 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: But based on his measurables and four seven eight, yeah 749 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: he can, But how long can he sustain it at 750 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: that size? You know? So all right, what about the 751 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: guy from Alabama? But tackle? Um, I mean he's he's 752 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: he's a guy that a lot of people like. So, 753 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a whole bunch of them. I see. 754 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: Here's here's what happens with that position. Though, when the 755 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys start looking at the value of that position compared 756 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: to something else, you'll say, okay, defensive tackles second third round. Um, 757 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: you know, I want somebody it's gonna either. I would 758 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 1: imagine they put a priority at defensive end more than 759 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: they do defense. It's outside in right in the same 760 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: thing with wide receiver compared to guard. I mean, that's 761 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 1: just the nobody for a SAP anymore. Nobody's looking forward. Yeah, 762 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: there are there are exceptions to every run. Yes, you 763 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: know Aaron Donald was an exception. You know, if you 764 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: draft again with that draft and Aaron Donald's going up there, 765 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: that he's top ten, right, if not top five? Right, 766 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: that's right, all right? We continue with more mixed shots. 767 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: In just a moment before there was a draft, you 768 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: could size up a cowboy by three simple factors. The 769 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: crease in his hat, the bend of his brim, and 770 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: his unbending attitude a man. Stetson didn't just protect him 771 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: from what life through at him. It projected a rugged, 772 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: unstoppable spirit. 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He is a safety by the name of 810 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: Nick Cross. He is we have some video. I don't 811 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: know that we do have video of him, but he's 812 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: from Maryland. He is the youngest player in this draft. 813 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: He's only twenty years old. He'll turn twenty one on 814 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: September tenth. And this guy reminds me of Darren Woodson's right. Yeah, 815 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: he's a smart guy, and that's a big everything. I'm 816 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: big on makeup. I'm big on a guy, you know, 817 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: because I don't Half the time, I don't know what 818 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking at when I'm looking at tape, you know, 819 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: But I can't. I do know what I'm looking at 820 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: when I see an interview, or I see what a 821 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: guy means to his team and what his teammates and 822 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: coaches say about him, and he aces that test. But 823 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: check out the numbers here, all right. Here's the other thing, 824 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,720 Speaker 1: him being twenty years old. Safety he graduated safety strong 825 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: can be either one, either one graduating, right. Uh, he 826 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 1: was at Maryland for three years and I have marked 827 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: down whether he graduated or not. I don't have it 828 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,959 Speaker 1: marked down. But anyway, all right, he is six foot 829 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve pounds. They probably mark against him 830 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: because he's only six foot tall. Okay, but he didn't 831 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 1: look like he's only six foot tall. In the field, 832 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: ran a four three four with a one four to 833 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 1: six split. Love that four three four four three four okay, okay, 834 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: four three four at two hundred twelve pounds. He must 835 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: have bad hands, because somebody would have made up a 836 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver all right, with a one four six split okay, 837 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: thirty seven vertical and a ten ten broad jump okay, 838 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: nice a cone drill of six to eighty five, which 839 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: is phenomenal. Okay, now tell me how he played twenty 840 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: twenty one un bench reps. Strong, not mad. I love 841 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: the way he plays football and if you look at him, 842 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: the way he diagnoses plays. He is a student of 843 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 1: the game. This is what I love the most about him. 844 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: If if you hear him talk, he talks about I 845 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 1: went back. There was a video that was done on 846 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: him in high school. He didn't start playing football until 847 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: his freshman year in high school. His dad wouldn't let 848 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 1: him play, but he always He dream was growing up 849 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: was to be a Hall of Fame football player. But well, 850 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: he puts in the work. Um as high school coach 851 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: Elijah Brooks, who also became a he was hired at 852 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 1: Maryland as an assistant. That's how he gets some of 853 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: these players. He calls him maniacal about preparation. Um Mike Locksley, 854 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: his head coach at Maryland. He has the ability with 855 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: his speed and athleticism to really impact the game. Okay, 856 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: but when The thing that I was most impressed with 857 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: with him was if you'll he would be playing a 858 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: high safety and he covers so much ground, whether it's 859 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: going backwards or forwards, and he Now, there are times 860 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 1: where he would misread a play, but I think that 861 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: can be coached out of a bad age twenty where 862 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: he would aggressively come up on and then a double 863 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: move would someone would get by, and so you'll you'll 864 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: find criticism for him for that whatever. But there are 865 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: times where he would be as a high safety and 866 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: there would be a misdrection backside a flare pass out 867 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: to a running back and this guy closes so fast 868 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: and he's really the only line of defense and he 869 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: would stop him for a no gain or a loss. 870 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: Well was the guy's name again, Nick Cross is his name, 871 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: and again he looks like Darren Woodson. He's got numbers 872 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: like Darren Woodson. And anyway, he is my guy. Um, 873 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: so there you going second round third. I'm not sure that. 874 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's gonna be there at fifty six. Really, yeah, 875 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: so yeah, you have to use one of them fifth 876 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: round draft choices to move up. Yeah, And it'd be 877 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: like Sean Lee in twenty ten, where the Cowboys used 878 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: a later pick and moved up five spots to get 879 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: the guy that they wanted whatever and so could be 880 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 1: one of them. I have to say this, uh, not 881 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: once as Bill ever referred to a great cornerback and said, 882 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: you know it kind of minds you've ever had, Not 883 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: once as he said, yeah, you know, no, there's only one. 884 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: You want to go first round with that guy, you know, 885 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 1: if you got our sky More guy. Okay, on NFL network, 886 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 1: so no one else could look bicky, well can if 887 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: they're watching NFL networker Now he's gonna being an interview now. 888 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: But my point also on Nick Cross is okay, yeah, 889 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: maybe they don't have as much of a need right 890 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: now for a safety, although I think we've any year 891 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: they will. And if he is, if he if if 892 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: I am right in my more importantly, if Cowboys scouts 893 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: are right in their assessment of a player and this 894 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: guy is as good as they think he is, then 895 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: he's going to get on the field. My question would be, 896 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: first of all, how his hips? Darren? What's that great hips? 897 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: What he looks like he can turn and go? He 898 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: could play? He did turning to go. I'm saying that cross. Okay, okay, 899 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: looks like because you're talking about covering the slot with 900 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: that speed you're talking and with that speed you got hips. 901 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: I know, guy with that kind of speed, then you're 902 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: talking about somebody that can actually when when he played 903 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,959 Speaker 1: the slot, you know he it wasn't a shutdown type 904 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: of thing, but he could stay in position long enough 905 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: to where just messed up timing. All right. He is 906 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: not Darren Woodson. Okay, he just looks like Darren, but 907 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,240 Speaker 1: he's not Darren Woodson. He cannot cover Jerry Rice right right. Okay, 908 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: I'm not shell as Jerry Rice right now. I may 909 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: not be able to cover Jerry Rice right now. But 910 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 1: he could be Brian Dawkins. And if you oh, I'm sorry, 911 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: and if you yeah, he could be Steve Atwater. Oh 912 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 1: even even worse. That's two of them all right then, 913 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Bill, Thanks a lot, Bill. And Darren 914 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: Woodson would second those motions. I second them for him, 915 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: yes as well, goes guys, thank you? All right? What 916 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: else is on your legal pad? There? Um? I just 917 00:55:51,760 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: run across something. Oh no, you're gonna have to oh, 918 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: I know. So we talked about all these positions right, 919 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: they gotta do something kicker. And here's my list of kickers. 920 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: It's like a half a page and there's there's only 921 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 1: three names. Yeah, and those were the those were the 922 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: free agents. The other half was the rookies yea. And 923 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: there was really only three names on it. So they 924 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: got to come up with something because mine hard to 925 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 1: find the freaking kicker man free agent kicker. They're all 926 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: guys that are retreads Cincinnati. That's what I talked about, 927 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: that he was a rookie, right, Okay, but was that go? 928 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: I mean to what you could see him doing? What? 929 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,399 Speaker 1: He was good enough that he was a fifth round 930 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: draft pick? Yeah, so they liked that. That's you the 931 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 1: first round for kickers. Yeah, that's right. That's cut offline, 932 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: right unless you're Janetkowski. Uh and that doesn't happen anymore anyway. Right. 933 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: So then, so, I mean, but you gotta find some 934 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: incidents where you've got the kicker that came out and 935 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: nobody thought he'd be that good and the guy end 936 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: up being good. What about what about Blake Fuss? Was 937 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: it Blake the kicker that came from Oklhomia State Fuss? Bailey? 938 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: Was Bailey that good at Oklahoma State. I think he 939 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: was good. Well, you knew he would be that good 940 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: in in the pro. Hey, we didn't know two weeks 941 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 1: before the first game is rookie year that he was 942 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna make this team. I remember bring out at at 943 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: NT Stadium and the Cowboys had an open practice that 944 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: day and uh, and you know at the certain times 945 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: during the practice, you've got the kickers kicking three or 946 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: four in a row. And I remember I may have 947 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: been sitting standing next to you micause that the day 948 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: he had he had a bad day. This was actually 949 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: a day. It was just after his bad day. And 950 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: he came back, and he came back, and I'm like 951 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: it was the most important moment of that practice was 952 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: whether Dan Bailey could get his act back together and 953 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 1: be able to nail right three or four kicks in 954 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: a row. And he did, and he did. Yeah, and 955 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: and but but as Bill said, I remember, and it 956 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: would have been I don't know if it was during 957 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: that season or the next season, talking to Chris Bonial 958 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: and it I believe it was. It was either as 959 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: first or second year as an assistant coach for the Cowboys, 960 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: and he and Joe Um the special team's coach Camillis. 961 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: They put their h on the line for Bonial and 962 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: and I and I remember Bonial telling me he goes. 963 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: I was more nervous than he was because I put 964 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: my job on the line because I said that's the 965 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: guy we should go, because remember they kept bringing in 966 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 1: all these veteran guys. They were going through guys and 967 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: and and Bonial said, no, this is the guy. And 968 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: he turned out to be the guy. But he was 969 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: pretty good at Oklahoma State, but then he seemed to 970 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: have a letdown. Uh as he came to training camp though. Uh, 971 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,919 Speaker 1: he was just good until that one day that Bill 972 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: pointed out we were in San Antonio. Maybe I can't 973 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: remember who luxonarder san Antonio. I just remember he had 974 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: a bad day and then they let him kick in 975 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 1: the last preseason game and then decided to go with him. 976 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah so much. One of these kickers, do you like? 977 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: The two that jumped out to me were Kade York 978 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: and Lsu and Prosper and Prosper and then uh Dicker, 979 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:51,919 Speaker 1: the kicker from UT. But you never know when there's 980 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: a free agent out there that no one knows about, right, 981 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: college free agent? College free Yeah, like a young guy 982 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: or maybe I mean that kicked somebody needs to know 983 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: about him. And yeah, I guarantee you there's some if 984 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: not multiple people, uh, in that scouting department. Something got somebody. Yeah, 985 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: because you can find the renegade kicker easily. Yeah. And 986 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: when I say renegade someone you know like worst the 987 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 1: free agency to where he comes out of nowhere. You 988 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: know you can have maybe try it out, try it 989 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: out at Texas Stadium. You never know, ye, that that's 990 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: your best free agent tryout, right, But did you ever 991 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: go out there for he now to look at it? No, 992 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: it was an insult to me as a free agent. Yeah, 993 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: it's so funny. Would you have to pay? Like when 994 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: I made the team, there were so many guys who 995 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: have been out of the league for like three years 996 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: that said, oh, if everything can do it, then maybe 997 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: I can come back. I have so many guys calling me, Hey, 998 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 1: can you help me get in the league? No, man, 999 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 1: you've been out the league for six years. Man, all right, 1000 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't My wife will tell me. I don't listen 1001 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 1: very well, and I did not listen very well earlier 1002 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: this show. Apparently we've got a caller on the line. 1003 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 1: And even though we're passed that, we're going to take 1004 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: this caller who perseverance? Yes, thanks forces, who do we have? 1005 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 1: This is Bob from the Nationale. Hello Bob, how are you? Bob? Hey, 1006 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. I know it's the end 1007 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 1: of the show. And hey, um, I remember a really 1008 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 1: great cornerback, Everson Wall, So shout out to you, buddy. 1009 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: Hey real quick. I know offensive line is the is 1010 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 1: a big priority, but I still am a big proponent 1011 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 1: of another stud linebacker. I mean, look what the impact 1012 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons had on our team, and I think another 1013 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: stud linebacker going in the second round could really really 1014 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 1: shore up our defense. And then, of course, I know 1015 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: we have all these other needs, but those are the 1016 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: two that I really think offensive line and another stud linebacker, 1017 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: and I think that can really help us out. Thanks 1018 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 1: for let me take the call. Guys, all that's on 1019 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: our list. I've got no problem me neither, even to 1020 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: a stud linebacker. I mean, we talked about the guy 1021 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: from Georgia, the Kobe Deane, and there was another one, 1022 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd from Utah. Is maybe that was him. Yeah, 1023 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: you gotta look at Devin Lloyd. I mean, if and 1024 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I was big on the Kobe Dean too, and I 1025 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: like both of them, and NA Kobe Dean is more 1026 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: of a guy who can And this is not a 1027 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 1: knock on him at all. He's not athletically the same 1028 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: player that Devin Lloyd is, but I mean he can 1029 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: read uh plays and read and react as good as anybody, 1030 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: and he's got all of those um intangibles that you're 1031 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 1: looking for. But Devin Lloyd is a play maker. And 1032 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 1: in fourteen games at Utah this year, consensus All American 1033 01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 1: had twenty two tackles for loss at eight sacks, four 1034 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: interceptions to run back for touchdowns. I mean, but you 1035 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: just look at him. He is athletically he ran a 1036 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 1: four six twenty five bench reps ten six broad jump 1037 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: and I just have written out next to him. Wow, 1038 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 1: great players see. And and there's there's an assumption going 1039 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 1: on at linebacker right now. Right you mentioned h you 1040 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: know KZ, but Kean O'Neill they decided that they weren't 1041 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: going to bring him back and that we'll cover ourselves 1042 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: with Jabril Cox. Jabral Cox didn't play last year, right, 1043 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: and he's coming off in ACL and you're gonna assume 1044 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 1: and he was at LSU for one year, if he 1045 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 1: played at North Dakota State for three years, right, and 1046 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,919 Speaker 1: you're assuming that he's going to step in and take 1047 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: that spot that Neil played, Right, that's a big assumption. 1048 01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: So there's an unknown there. Uh. And the Lloyd can do. 1049 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at him. They rush him off 1050 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: the edge a little bit. I mean, I tell you 1051 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 1: got a little a lot of those taxes. If you 1052 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 1: had two of those guys, two of those guys that 1053 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: you don't know which one's gonna line up, who's lining 1054 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 1: up where, and and who's in the middle, and who's 1055 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 1: on the outside, or can one of them go to 1056 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 1: defensive end or I can line up at defensive end 1057 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: and drop off I would I think if if Devin 1058 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: Lloyd is there at twenty four, I would rush that 1059 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 1: card and go running up there. I'm looking at videos now, 1060 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 1: you're watching Devin Lloyd. Yeah, I look at that right now. 1061 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: This guy's huge too, Huh. He's kind of fenn to 1062 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 1: be inside. He looks a little lean to be inside. 1063 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes young sometimes you want that and a 1064 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 1: young player, they're all they're not none of them are 1065 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 1: gonna lose weight, right, You know that's right. Which, by 1066 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 1: the way, I heard that Connor mcgovernn put on some muscle, 1067 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 1: some weight, uh in the off season. So we'll see 1068 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: what it's there. Lloyd, Devin Lloyd is listed as six 1069 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 1: two and three quarters inches tall, so sixty three two 1070 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: thirty seven. Now, Nakobe Dean is only five eleven two 1071 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 1: twenty nine. What do we have there on the screen? 1072 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 1: They it's probably the Utah guy. Yeah, Lloyd, it is 1073 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. Yeah, yeah, number zero, number zero. Yeah, he's 1074 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: zeroed out. That guy. Very articulous bags. I like that 1075 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 1: very good. And by the way, are both very articulate 1076 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: themselves too, Yeah, which is all part of that makeup. 1077 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: I look for these players. What are you trying to say? 1078 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 1: I would have I would have drafted Everson Walls. Thank you, 1079 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. See, that's the first time we 1080 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: need to make a habit of that. That's the only 1081 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: case if someone's ever made about me getting drafted, that's 1082 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: the only case, just based on his interview alone, care 1083 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 1: about the full eight for us? Come on, all right, 1084 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 1: I think we're out of time. We're pastime, way pastime 1085 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 1: pastime here, all right, But we are going to be 1086 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: on next Thursday. Yes, as a pre draft pre that's 1087 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 1: a definite thing. And Bill will tell you who the 1088 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna draft. That's right, Thursday, big green notebook 1089 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 1: by twelve You not just soo they'll draft to the 1090 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 1: first round, but every other round, every other round? Huh 1091 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 1: all my trade downs? Every other round? Does that mean 1092 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,439 Speaker 1: the first we're gonna have. We got nine draft picks 1093 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,360 Speaker 1: right now, we're gonna have fourteen by next Thursday. Okay, 1094 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,920 Speaker 1: trades that I'm gonna have, We're gonna trade down and 1095 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 1: pick up whatever. Al Right, great time of the year. Yes, 1096 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 1: got a big green notebook and everyone has just glad 1097 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: it's here. That's all all right, I'll be glad it's over. 1098 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 1: I'll start getting some sleep, all right. That doesn't for 1099 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: mick shots. We'll talk at you again next Thursday at 1100 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 1: eleven thirty Draft Day. Oh, forgot to tell you guys. 1101 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1102 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.