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Speaker 1: took Molly once. What were you like on Molly? Very talkative? Interesting? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But it was cool though, because she she knew I

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Speaker 1: To blitz, how'd you feel when you had a rectile dysfunction?

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Speaker 1: We laughed, it was funny. She did she hold you? No,

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Speaker 1: That's what the streets said, pressed pressed. No, wasn't oppressed.

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Speaker 2: First of all, rest in peace, prayers and condolences to

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, of course, the internet interneted. When it happens, somebody

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's the same. It's the same. You know

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Speaker 3: So I mean, mostly how festivals do go. Travis Scott

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Speaker 2: There's videos popping up of Travis saying, Yo, somebody passed.

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Speaker 3: But I think they need to rethink festivals period. Even

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Speaker 3: That looked no different than any festival I've been to,

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Speaker 1: Yet festivals are very fine unsafe.

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Speaker 2: If they allow Travis to do another Astra World next year,

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Speaker 3: Now it's kids passing out and kids taking too much drucks.

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Speaker 3: Like every festival I've been to, there's always been a

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Speaker 1: Like I see that at the festivals all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they were saying. With the the fentnel

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Speaker 1: You can't put that on Travis. I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't think he sits there and maybe

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Speaker 3: But I know that's not Travis is an artist.

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Speaker 1: He was the only thing he.

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Speaker 2: But even if you have more security, I don't see

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Speaker 1: To get like security can do security getting tramped in

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Speaker 3: They could get paramedics or people places faster.

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Speaker 1: Than I think. The only way to do that effectively

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Speaker 2: Only five thousand people here, five thousand people here, two

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You gotta kind of to me, that would be the

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Speaker 1: I think that's the only way.

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Speaker 2: But having more security in the mix of that, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just even more unfortunate of everyone so

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hope that's not true, you know what

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Speaker 4: It was only one confirmed case of somebody who said

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Speaker 1: He can't see. It's impossible for him to see all

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Speaker 4: They needed more eyes on the ground. That's more tardy

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Speaker 3: The artist is not looking into the crowd for safety reasons.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line.

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Speaker 2: Prayers and the condolences to the families and the victims

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I cursed London out all weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, picture you walking around your house like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: That, man, Like you know, it's just it's like, damn, man, like,

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if you look at I'm just doing dirting

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I thought you was a good guy.

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Speaker 1: Man. What happened? Like? How did you you thought that's

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Speaker 3: Here's like that's what that's what's fucked up about when

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Speaker 3: Like whoever Erica was talking about on callin Tyrone. We

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Speaker 1: We don't know. We just took it, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: open invite to this podcast. We need, we need to

440
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Speaker 1: stand up for men.

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Speaker 3: We don't know what she was putting you through and

442
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Speaker 3: what forced you to have to leave and go back

443
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Speaker 3: to all three.

444
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Speaker 1: Of your body others. You know, sometimes you got so

445
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,119
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to read the room. Man. It's like

446
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Speaker 1: this nigga got three three. I mean some went into

447
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,240
Speaker 1: it though, Yeah, but he got three though, yes, four

448
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 1: Summer's four. But I'm saying that that's what someone was

449
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,880
Speaker 1: supposed to read the wrong. There's like seven songs called four.

450
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 2: You know she was the fourth, but three, Like my

451
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,159
Speaker 2: thing is, at some point the nigga is just who

452
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 2: he is, man, Like, you got three baby mothers, all

453
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 2: of them is beefing with him, Like you gotta know,

454
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,400
Speaker 2: like this nigg he just ain't ship.

455
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Speaker 3: Well, that's what I kind of appreciated. The album did

456
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Speaker 3: start out with her defending London against all the baby mothers.

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Speaker 1: It did, and that made me feel good. I'm like

458
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Speaker 1: I started with Cardi.

459
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Speaker 2: I didn't even know Cardy like kind of a and

460
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Speaker 2: all the project by the way, like we just got that,

461
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 2: Like did she she told someone what to do, like yo, listen,

462
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 2: just make a record, tell him that you got money, Yeah,

463
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Speaker 2: and fucked them.

464
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Speaker 1: It was like she's a genius. Yeah. I was like, oh,

465
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Speaker 1: there's a reason Cardi is Cardi. Yeah.

466
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Speaker 2: I was like, this is a Cardi is doing. She's

467
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Speaker 2: been through it. But that was I thought that that

468
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 2: was a genius way of saying like you know, because

469
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Speaker 2: you can.

470
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Speaker 1: You can.

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Speaker 2: We can go back and read that timeline with summer,

472
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Speaker 2: like when she getting into it with the baby mother

473
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Speaker 2: and all that.

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Speaker 1: We saw that all of those things unfold. So it

475
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Speaker 1: was dope to see that.

476
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Speaker 2: And then as the album goes on, it's like, nah,

477
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 2: but it's you though, FN like you ain't ship you.

478
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Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Like that's what she ended, and

479
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Speaker 1: then she ended with a prayer for him that was

480
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 1: not a prayer for London, for ourselves, it was, yeah,

481
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Speaker 1: well we got to get into the prayer too, because

482
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Speaker 1: to give us whole prayer memorize that prayer don't work.

483
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Speaker 2: For side chicks though. I think I think I need

484
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Speaker 2: sid chicks to understand that. See that's the thing. See,

485
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Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta do the work. You can't just pray.

486
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Speaker 2: You gotta do the work too.

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Speaker 1: God helps those who help themselves exactly, So you can't

488
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Speaker 1: be aside and be like know she's aside, they be

489
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Speaker 1: knowing they side. And first of all, why are side

490
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: chicks homewreckers? They're home helpers. Some they are home helpers.

491
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Speaker 1: They're not home.

492
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Speaker 4: A happy man that didn't have a side chick like.

493
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Speaker 1: They can keep they could keep your house together, happy

494
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Speaker 1: man that didn't have a side I have seen relationships

495
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Speaker 1: work better when the man was cheating, and then when

496
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Speaker 1: he stopped, that's when the shit really hit the fan.

497
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Speaker 3: Like, they're not home rerecords, they're home helpers. They take

498
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Speaker 3: so much stress so you can be a better boyfriend

499
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Speaker 3: or husband.

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Speaker 2: Side chicks can be home helpers if they're honest with themselves.

501
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 1: Being side chicks. Side chicks that are not honest with

502
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Speaker 1: themselves and think that they have a chance of being

503
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Speaker 1: the main chick, they can destroy your own Are you

504
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Speaker 1: suggesting someone with a side chick in this, No, she

505
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Speaker 1: wasn't a side chick.

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Speaker 2: I'm suggesting that she really loved and cared about her

507
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Speaker 2: baby father at one point and was trying to do

508
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Speaker 2: everything she could to help him become a better person,

509
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Speaker 2: and it just didn't work out, and he didn't want

510
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Speaker 2: to do the work.

511
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Speaker 1: He didn't want to work on himself.

512
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Speaker 2: That's just what she's suggesting. I don't know this, gentleman.

513
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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say it's true. I'm just saying

514
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Speaker 2: these were her words. I'm listening to the album, listening

515
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Speaker 2: to the lyrics, and it sounds like you know she

516
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Speaker 2: was trying to help him.

517
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Speaker 1: She was holding him down. Like she said, I was

518
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Speaker 1: there for you, you know, but you to me, I

519
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 1: was just to come up for you. It was just

520
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: for clout. We got to stop with this hold me

521
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Speaker 1: down thing. I hate when women hold you that. No, no,

522
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: no, no no, I'm not gonna let you do that. You

523
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Speaker 1: gotta let me know what holded. Tell me, tell me

524
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Speaker 1: how I know women that are holding niggas down. I agree,

525
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: and like in a real way.

526
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it paying for like haircuts, like hey,

527
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Speaker 2: your car note, Like like I know women that are

528
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: really doing that for niggas that on Instagram that I

529
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: really like, niggas that you might think are popping. And

530
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Speaker 2: then it's like fam, you live with Shorty and she's

531
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Speaker 2: paying like all of the bills.

532
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Speaker 3: On Okay, Well, do you think financially Summer needed to

533
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Speaker 3: hold London on the track down.

534
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying financially, no, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was. I don't think she ever

536
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Speaker 2: alluded to so much financial. I think it was more

537
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Speaker 2: so like she knew that he had his issues and

538
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Speaker 2: that she was trying to love him and like really

539
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Speaker 2: like help him grow and be a more mature person.

540
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Speaker 2: I think that's what she was alluding to. Like, I

541
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Speaker 2: was just trying to show you.

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Speaker 1: That because it's saying in love it's cool and being

543
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Speaker 1: having a family is cool, Like that's cool. Ship running

544
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Speaker 1: around you got three a bunch of Yeah. Yeah, but

545
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Speaker 1: it did, but it didn't work out. She didn't have

546
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Speaker 1: a family yet, Yeah, but it did them.

547
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Speaker 2: She was trying to have a family with him, and

548
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: he still was in a place where he just wanted

549
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Speaker 2: to run around.

550
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Speaker 1: Again, I'm not I don't know. I don't know London personally.

551
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Speaker 3: Her saying this going you're trying to compete with thug

552
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Speaker 3: was one of the funniest bars I ever heard.

553
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Speaker 1: My list is what I'm saying.

554
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Speaker 2: So this is the ship we are in, and I'm

555
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Speaker 2: just like, damn really, like that's what was going on.

556
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Speaker 1: Well, all right, let's not judge London because he has fortune.

557
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: We have to judge him. Okay, now he's this is

558
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: what is for? How many times have you not in ship? Brow? Yo?

559
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: Well she was on birth control if I did.

560
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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, the way we the way we judge guys

561
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Speaker 3: with a lot of kids while we fuck women raw

562
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Speaker 3: and just because we have better luck.

563
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not. It doesn't make them shittier.

564
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: How they handle their kids makes them a shitty person. Okay,

565
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: there you go, creating like we always say, we always

566
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Speaker 1: ship on people with a lot of kids, Like, damn,

567
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Speaker 1: why would you bring this?

568
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Speaker 2: No, it's not it's not it's not the number of kids.

569
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Speaker 2: It's relationships. It's the relationships you have with the women.

570
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: You understand, like if it's like drama with all three,

571
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: you don't see the kids, you don't take care of

572
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: the kids.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like.

574
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Speaker 2: Fam But how you got all of these situations, like

575
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: all of this, all these issues with women?

576
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: Have you ever had weird women? That's weird to me?

577
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: You said, what have you ever had.

578
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Speaker 3: Raw sex with a woman that you wouldn't consider to

579
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Speaker 3: probably be a good mother or be Oh god, okay,

580
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Speaker 3: so you know better than London?

581
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Speaker 1: No, No, I am better. I'm a lot better than London.

582
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Speaker 1: I don't have any kids. Well we shouldn't. Why have

583
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: people brag about not having children, Like that's not football.

584
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Speaker 1: That's the weirdest thing in the world. Your team, no kids,

585
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Speaker 1: I got no kid. I'm thirty. No kids. If if

586
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: it's beautiful to bring people into the world.

587
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Speaker 2: It is, but it's also it's also beautiful to raise family,

588
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: for sure, and not have broken homes and not have

589
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Speaker 2: a bunch of men around your kids that your baby

590
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Speaker 2: mother might be dating.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with you, but it doesn't make you

592
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Speaker 3: a better person when you still are doing the act

593
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Speaker 3: and the girl just happened.

594
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Speaker 1: To not get pregnant. I have an OWD girl that

595
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Speaker 1: I think would be terrible mothers. Okay, thank god they

596
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Speaker 1: didn't ever kid. But it doesn't make me better.

597
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Speaker 5: It does.

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Speaker 1: It makes me a lot better. I'm a great guy. Yeah,

599
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: I'm a great guy. Better, I'm a great guy. What

600
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Speaker 1: if London is just pro life, that's a good. What

601
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Speaker 1: if he's a Christian, that's a good that's a good.

602
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Speaker 5: No.

603
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Speaker 1: But see, no, no, no, no, no, we can't because

604
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: then if it was all of that.

605
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Speaker 4: Cut him some slack because she did say I'm fourth

606
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: baby mama, that his mother was not around for him.

607
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: So if you want to get into some therapy.

608
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Speaker 1: Yeah that this.

609
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Speaker 4: How can you have a family if you never had

610
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: a family? Listen, man, family if you never had a family.

611
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Speaker 2: And I agree, which is why, which is why I

612
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: said what I said, Like, I'm not saying he's a

613
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: terrible guy because I don't know him. I'm just going

614
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Speaker 2: by with Summer saying on the project from her point

615
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Speaker 2: of view of being pregnant.

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Speaker 1: She's saying she's she was alone the whole pregnancy, like

617
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Speaker 1: she didn't.

618
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Speaker 2: She didn't feel like it was ever a real family

619
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Speaker 2: that he wanted. She felt like he just wanted to say, Oh,

620
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm with Summer just for the cloud, like that's my queen.

621
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: But I'm only a queen of R and B, not

622
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Speaker 2: in real life.

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Speaker 1: He's still London. Like if I don't I was dating Summer,

624
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: it would look more cloudy than London.

625
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: You said, what if I was dating Summer, you could

626
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: say that would be looking more cloudy than London.

627
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: No, that's not true. That's not true. Oh you think

628
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm popping, Not that I think you're popping. But it doesn't.

629
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Speaker 2: It doesn't because I see what you're trying to say,

630
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 2: Like it, Yes, London is successful.

631
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Speaker 1: He's a producer. He bodied her first classic. They made

632
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: great music to get matter of fact, they tried to

633
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: make this album is a bite of the sound London

634
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: did on the first one, didn't he introduce some tracks

635
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: on this album though, no I don't think. Yes he

636
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: does on this album. Yes, I didn't even know that.

637
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: But well it's called still over It, so I mean

638
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: NAT's still sound like it would sound like over It.

639
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm not gonna say London is a bad

640
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: It's all jokes. I'm just I'm just saying how much

641
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: I love that I'm listening to it, and it started

642
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: to make me kind of feel some way towards them,

643
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: just because the music is so good.

644
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's why you can't be vulnerable with women anymore,

645
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: because they might make good music about it.

646
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure London uh confide into Summer about his relationship

647
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 3: with his mother his childhood in that degree, told her

648
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 3: all these things. Maybe the reason I act the way

649
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 3: I act is because of what my mother wasn't around

650
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: and I don't really know what the structured.

651
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: Family is and this and that.

652
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: And then look, the moment she doesn't love him anymore,

653
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 3: goes and uses that ship right against him and puts

654
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: in a fucking record.

655
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah but you can't. You can't weaponize my trauma. But

656
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: you can't do that, all right, So we're going I

657
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: told you the way I asked, I don't throw it

658
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: back in my face.

659
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: That's a stance you're taking. Okay, So but what it

660
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: gets to a point where it's like enough is enough

661
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: to how much? How much does she put up with?

662
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying. So you got to think

663
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: about that too, Like, because again I don't know London.

664
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: It could be a great guy, but he doesn't like

665
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: you if he told me, I don't know why he

666
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: doesn't like me, but because you did I put money

667
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: bags on the summer's picture. Yeah, yes, niggas don't like

668
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: me because of that. Like that's showing love. I bought

669
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: her album.

670
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Listen, I support your family. I'm gonna name drop really quick. Okay,

671
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: just to make the story better, more salacious. Yes, we

672
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: were in the studio and Puff was there, and London

673
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: skipped over Puff to tell me he didn't fuck with you.

674
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: Hey, look listen man, listen. I don't know you know

675
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: he breakst Puff? Yeah man, It went to me and said, yo,

676
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: your man's I'm like, listen man, and mind you. I

677
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: didn't even know what London looked like, so I didn't

678
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: even know who's talking to me.

679
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: Listen, man, I don't know it's so love man, It's

680
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: I got nothing but love for everybody. I ain't got

681
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: issues with nobody, but yeah, the album is just it's

682
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: an honest, it's the honest, vulnerable project.

683
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Zero accountability in this in this project, I just want

684
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: to say, I love this album.

685
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: But are you saying someone's trying to.

686
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: Stick up for men because this entire weekend it was

687
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: just a men bashing session and someone had to come

688
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: in here today and stick up for us.

689
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't.

690
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: You can't stick up with somebody if you don't know

691
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: if what they were or were not doing.

692
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: Though, that's why I fuck with Adele Dell is the

693
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: only female artist that takes accountability. She put out Hello

694
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: and said, you know, I was a piece of shit.

695
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: I was terrible. Sorry, Mac Wilde's in this video.

696
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: I feel like somebody else just did that, though, I

697
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: fuck another female R and B artist just did that.

698
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: Took accountability. Yeah, she took a lot of accountabiit. I

699
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: feel like we would remember that because we spoke about it. Though.

700
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: There just needs to be one one verse on this

701
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: where I feel like Summer is kind of just really saying, oh,

702
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: this was my fault, but what if it wasn't.

703
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: What if she literally did all she could to save

704
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: her relationship and keep her family together, do more. You know,

705
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: he was young, he's more mature now, you know. I'm

706
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: it could be different, you know, so you can't blame

707
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: her for being the fourth. Like I've seen a lot

708
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: of women like I could never be number four. I

709
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: could never a lot of y'all could never be number one.

710
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: That's a whole nother that's a whole other topic that

711
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: we could get into. If y'all, if y'all willing, if

712
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: how much time y'all got, all jokes aside. There's a

713
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: great album, man, I think this is a really really

714
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: dope project.

715
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: You think it's better than the first, no better then,

716
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: but it's a different album.

717
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: I think I think it's probably just as good as

718
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: the first.

719
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be more standout records from the

720
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: first one than this one.

721
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: This is this is an album album. Like, yeah, I

722
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: feel like there's no usher record from the first one

723
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: that like, all right, this will be the joint that's

724
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: played all.

725
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: The time, you know what, you know why I do

726
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: think that this may be better than the first because

727
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: the story is so real, like and we watched it unfold.

728
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: So it is a different it's a the records hit

729
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: different because you can really go back and you know,

730
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: if you have those videos saved on your Instagram, you can.

731
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: See, like you're sick of I'm saying, if you do it,

732
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: but you can you can see it. You can see

733
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: the timeline.

734
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: I think her add in Sierra's prayer at the end

735
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: of it was was dope because you know every woman

736
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: has been for the past hoy many years saying what this,

737
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: How did Sierra pray for Russell and her relationship? Like

738
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: and again you know it's it's it's it's not just

739
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: the prayer. You got to be willing to put into

740
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: work as well.

741
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Russell give us our prayer? Man,

742
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: I need Russell's prayer for us. Russell's prayer, Yeah, I

743
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: need russell S prey.

744
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: Next.

745
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: Who would be the R and B who would be

746
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: the male R and B artist to have Russell's prayer

747
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 2: at the end of his.

748
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: His album August? You know what? You know he would

749
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: do Russell's prayer and Jada's prayer. Maybe Jada's prayer Russell's prey.

750
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, but shit, man, I think the album

751
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: is dope. I really know, I really do enjoy the album.

752
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking ship and I know shout out to l

753
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: BR and you guys did an amazing job makes it

754
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: roll out. I loved it all. I just got to

755
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: come here to stick up for man. I love the album.

756
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking we have it's fun.

757
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: No no, And I thought about that too, Like I said,

758
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: when I was listening to You're Not Having Fun when

759
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: I was a bit album, I was like, damn, like.

760
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: They gonna kill London, Like they're gonna kill him. Like

761
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: she's airing the last is it?

762
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: The last old song before Sierra's prayer when she's talking

763
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: to London's mother, like, first of all, your mother should

764
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: have whooped your ass. You know how mad a woman

765
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: got to be to say your mom should have whooped.

766
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: Your Then she explained all his trauma to the world

767
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: and then left him.

768
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: Listen. Sometimes women can't you know, enough is enough, man.

769
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: You gotta move on. And someone seems to be happy

770
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: in her new relationship now as well, for sure, And

771
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: again I'm not investing these people's lives. I'm not really

772
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: just talking right there, right out to London and summer.

773
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: I hope everyone find love and peace and happiness. And

774
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: she I think she's reported to do two hundred thousand something,

775
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: which is incredible, amazing.

776
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: I think I told Justice, he asked me. I think

777
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: I said one. I thought she was because I felt

778
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: like everybody was waiting for it. She can cracked too, Yeah,

779
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: for sure, that's definitely a big, big accomplishment for so

780
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: shout out to them. I'm seeing everything going around talking

781
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 2: about the contract situation. I don't know how true that is,

782
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: and I didn't ask Justice about it.

783
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: I was that's funny. I was considering calling him. Why listen.

784
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: We can't be the hypocrites that'd be preaching all this

785
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: contract bullshit. And even though Justice is our man, we

786
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: gotta get the bottom of it because if you tell,

787
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: if you're taking that much from her, Justice is time

788
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: to talk.

789
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Where's the little thingy the toggle? Where's the toggle? Do

790
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: we have the adapter? Justice is not going to answer.

791
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm willing to bet he's not going to answer album

792
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: numbers coming in, you know what I'm saying, Like some

793
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: will probably on his phone right now talking about shows.

794
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: There's no way he answers the phone. I'm willing to

795
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: bet he don't answer the phone. Nope, we could keep that. Yeah,

796
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: I told you wouldn't answer. Busy week for him, man,

797
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: busy week.

798
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, for sure for sud. Now that contract I

799
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: am curious to see. I mean, I know with joint ventures,

800
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: a lot of the splits are not Yes.

801
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: I don't think that's correct, though, I'm willing to bet

802
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: that that contract isn't true.

803
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: I mean, fifteen cents on the dollar sounds like a

804
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: major deal to me.

805
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: I feel like ye, But I feel like I feel

806
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: like I feel like someone would have addressed that a

807
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: long time ago.

808
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: Maybe she didn't know, Maybe she read that article with

809
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: the rest of the world. You don't know a lot

810
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: of artists doing it if I'm not saying that's a fact.

811
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: But she did you know what the next album is

812
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: gonna sound like? Still over Justice? Shee out? Did you

813
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: really screw me Justice? Yeah? She going to adjustice out

814
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: like some old socks. Man. But I don't think it's true. Though,

815
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's true.

816
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: I think that Summers, I think she's very aware, and

817
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: I just think that I don't think LVRN would conduct business.

818
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: I can't see them doing that. I definitely at all.

819
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: But that is weird timing and who wrote it? Like

820
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: where did that come? What I'm saying like, it's just

821
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: it's just too weird. It's like where did this come from? Whey?

822
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Right now, it just feels like it was just some

823
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: negative shit. Maybe London. Ah, I could see that. Maybe

824
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: he kind of threw that out there, like, yes, why

825
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: you ain't getting no bread? You really don't like London? No,

826
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: ill with him. I don't like him. I don't even

827
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: know him, Like I think he's an adupe producer. Justic

828
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: said hit you in two minutes.

829
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: Ah, that old industry two minutes. That really means our No,

830
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: that's my man. We're not industry friends.

831
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: That's smart man. Went's dr together. That makes us a couple.

832
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: It does Low Kid does, like if you put your

833
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: feet in the sand with another man kind of like

834
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: it's a different level of like bonding.

835
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: We were shirtless together for four nex.

836
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a definitely I think we got to get

837
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: shirtless together. And you think I'm just saying not like that.

838
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: I would love for you gotta one up the old

839
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: pot huh No, No, no, I'm saying, like we need to

840
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: spend time bonding with of course, you know have lady

841
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: friends around for sure to kind of break up the

842
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: you know, Amarica could round them up. Me and Demerius

843
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: gotta have a long talk because she won't invite people

844
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: places when I asked her to, and I just don't understand.

845
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: But you like. But that's what I understand. For the

846
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: people that are listening. Here's a little backstory. You got

847
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: a lot of backstories, maul had asked him.

848
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: I just love I've known Demeris for a very long time,

849
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: so watching your friendship with her blossom is fun to watch,

850
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: just because I've known both of you for a very

851
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: long time.

852
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: So I like to see, you know when two worlds

853
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: where you guys will bond and not bond.

854
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: I am under the impression is not true. But Damarius

855
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: has the host she's always had that she does. She

856
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: has the doutte. She will not invite one of call

857
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: her call her a woman to the Saint John Show.

858
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: Thanks for you, But my thing is, you also have

859
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: a plus one, So I'm all plused out.

860
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: Why can't you invite this young lady. I'm all plussed out.

861
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I used all my pluses and I spoke to

862
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: saint and he said, I can't have.

863
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: No more pluses.

864
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: No, So what plus are you bringing instead of this

865
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: young woman asking the marriage to bring?

866
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: I invited you know, I invited some some some people

867
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 2: that never seen Saint John perform.

868
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: Okay, they to show so fanatics. Yeah you did a

869
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: giveaway on Twitter.

870
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: Not on Twitter kind of like people I know, okay,

871
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: against people I know, like secondhand people.

872
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: I know.

873
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: It's like, Yo, my cousin. He's a home girl I

874
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: work with. She's a huge fan.

875
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, it's so nice of you. I'm just

876
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: trying to change the world. One those Saint John fan

877
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: at the time, Well, I have.

878
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: A plus that I won't be using. Okay, So if

879
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: I give you my plus.

880
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: Would you invite her? Absolutely?

881
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, she's great and she's healing. Last time I

882
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: saw her, she told me she was healing. Next thing

883
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: I know, it's tears. I'm like, what's going on? And

884
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: then she said I'm healing. I was like, oh, well,

885
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: if you would have said that, it would have you know.

886
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: So Saint John, he has a great record called roses.

887
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: What else would help women heal more than flowers? Sourse? Here,

888
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: roses come to Saint John. She's just trying to help

889
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: her healing process. Yeah, and Saint Love's taking his shirt off.

890
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: That might help Wales. I don't know, you're you're the

891
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: next two. You're not London, you're the one that heals her.

892
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm Frands. That was a me joke, Like that was

893
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: a bad joke. That's a joke I would make. Somebody said.

894
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: Somebody said, y'all got to stop naming your kids London

895
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 3: in Paris because they act like Tremont and Newark.

896
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: They act like Tremont and gun Hill. Yeah, that child's

897
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: name is Merrick.

898
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but yeah, but no, you should invite her

899
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: though she's cool.

900
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: That's the homie. Man. Have you ever dated a woman

901
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: that was healing? Absolutely?

902
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: And I found out while we were dating, Like, you

903
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: should tell a guy before you start dating that you're healing. Well,

904
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: don't let me find out while I'm trying to, like,

905
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: you know, get my ship off, just like now, I

906
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: got to receive energy that's still meant for him, Oh

907
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 2: for sure.

908
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, I don't need baggage. Yeah,

909
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know him. I mean, women are never gonna

910
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: say you that, though.

911
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: Some of them do I think women are I think

912
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: women are learning and that it's okay to be Like,

913
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: and I've read something that says you honestly doesn't have

914
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: to be brutal, So I don't. I want to stop

915
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: saying brutally honest because I like that, Like, honesty.

916
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be brutal, I mean, unless it's brutal.

917
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: But what's brutal though, Like, what's brutal about being honest? Like,

918
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't think it should be you shouldn't, you shouldn't.

919
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: It shouldn't feel like it's being brutal.

920
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: Taking out all your trauma on an innocent bystander that's

921
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: just trying to get to know you and help you. Yeah,

922
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: But then I don't think that's being honest. I think

923
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: I think you're intentionally trying to hurt someone.

924
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: Well, things are triggering in relationships and patterns. So yeah,

925
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: women that are not healed or people, let's say that

926
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: because I've done it too. When you're not healed in something,

927
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna take it out on that person when you

928
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: get triggered from something on the last the last thing.

929
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: But what's something that has triggered you?

930
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: Like, what was the last thing that triggered you in

931
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: a conversation or something with a female.

932
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: Uh, honestly kind of what Summer did on that mom record, Like,

933
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: I hate it. It does trigger me if I explain

934
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: a certain trauma in my life when we're being vulnerable

935
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: and then in a fight they use you, they use

936
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: it and throw it out or try to say I

937
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: don't understand, like why you behave this way, and it's

938
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: like I've told you exactly why, and I'm working on I.

939
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: Can understand that triggering you, And yeah, but that's fucked up.

940
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: You shouldn't. You shouldn't throw people's vulnerabilities at them. But

941
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 1: hurt people, hurt people.

942
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: I've definitely been hurt and probably took it out on

943
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: the next persons.

944
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: Going ghost on somebody considered like you taking out your

945
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: traumas on them. Uh if part of your trauma, if

946
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: a result of your trauma is running away and shutting down, Yes,

947
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: it depends where it's rooted from.

948
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: Because I do that a lot, And I just noticed

949
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: that about myself like a few months ago, Like I

950
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: go ghost on people a lot, but it usually has

951
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the person, like I sense from

952
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: I just like I really thoroughly need to be alone

953
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: at times, like you don't want.

954
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: To be like press that to people.

955
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: I do, but I'm finding it no matter how much

956
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: you express it to people when it happens, they still

957
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: don't accept it. And I'm not saying that they have to.

958
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: You don't have to accept anything, but like it's like,

959
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 2: but I told you.

960
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: This is how I am.

961
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: Like I just have these times and these moments where

962
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: I just need to detach and just be by myself.

963
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: And it's not like you know, if you're dating a

964
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 2: woman and you go ghost, it's like they automatically assume

965
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: it's another woman.

966
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 3: Okay, now I see why he loves this summer album.

967
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: You're not taking any accountability in how maybe you're explaining

968
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: this incorrectly to the person you're speaking to. I just

969
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 3: need to and need to learn how to say.

970
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: That to them. I just that's what I just said, like.

971
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: And compromising the fact of if I want to go ghost,

972
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna shoot you two text messages.

973
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: This is what I'm doing. Is Where'm at, giving me

974
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: like a day, I'll talk to you like you cause

975
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: you when I under say, even if you do that, when.

976
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 3: You go ghost, it will make people feel insecure about

977
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: what is going on, if they did something wrong, what

978
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: you're doing, if you're just.

979
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Not because I've been on the other side of that.

980
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: So you have to explain and figure out how to

981
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: explain that to that person specifically, because they may need

982
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: some reassurance while you're going ghosts. And that's where the

983
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: compromise comes. It can't just always be but sometimes Summer

984
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: and Mall. Sometimes it's got to be about London and Rory.

985
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: Okay, well listen, if we're gonna be progressive here, then

986
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: just be progressive. Then. You know, I don't know where

987
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: you were taking us right there. You're my guy, you

988
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm gonna I'm here. I'm here,

989
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm here with you. I'm just we're bonded. We're here.

990
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: But thesion yeah no, But even when you explain I

991
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: was suggesting that you were Summer, I know what you were,

992
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: and you don't take cannability London and I are. People

993
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: get shitted on public. Yeah, it didn't quite land the

994
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: way you wanted it to, but I'm here.

995
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: It landed the right way. That's how I wanted to.

996
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, even if you explain to people, why

997
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: why you go ghost or why you need time to yourself.

998
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: You could explain it till you turn blue in the face,

999
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: and it's still sometimes it's just not enough.

1000
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: It still hurts.

1001
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 2: And I know because I've been on the other side

1002
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: of that. I've been ghosted by women.

1003
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, damn, like what happened?

1004
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: Like we were and they said, oh, you know, I

1005
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: was going through something and this that and the third,

1006
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: or I had another situation that I wasn't quite sure about.

1007
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know where that was.

1008
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 2: Going, this that, and the third, and it's like, okay, cool,

1009
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: once they explain it, you understand. But with me, I'm

1010
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: noticing that I can explain it and I can be like, yo, honestly,

1011
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with other women.

1012
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: I think you're great.

1013
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: I just have these moments where I just like I

1014
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: need to detach myself from everybody and I just need

1015
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: to be alone by myself. I'm not outdating other women,

1016
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm not out fucking other women. Like it's literally I'm

1017
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: just by myself. And they just like yeah, right, like

1018
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: you know they don't understand that well.

1019
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: Does that form from other trust issues that you may

1020
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: have given them before?

1021
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: Do they feel that.

1022
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: Are they just untrusting people to begin with, or was

1023
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: that actions that made them think us that like, Okay,

1024
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: he's ghosting me, but I see a million money bags

1025
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 3: every five seconds. So that's another thing that could that

1026
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: could make someone You were You told me you were

1027
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: asleep and then I saw money bags everywhere. I'm like,

1028
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 3: y'all drop them in my sleep too?

1029
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: You want me to do? I don't know, And you

1030
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: wonder why women feel insecure when you don't know what

1031
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: to tell you how you got to the bottom of it.

1032
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: You're telling them you're asleep and you're not. So let

1033
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: me say I'm ghosting. But you know, women, they may

1034
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: believe that that you're not.

1035
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: But sometimes even if I am sleep, it's like, what

1036
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: do you What am I explaining here?

1037
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?

1038
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: It's like, why if I'm telling you I just need

1039
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: time by why does it matter if I'm on social media?

1040
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: Why does that matter? I'm still by myself while I'm

1041
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: on social media?

1042
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Okay, but you lies were? No. Sometimes it's like a

1043
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: I was sleep, but then it's like I'm up now,

1044
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, I sleep two hour spurts and then I

1045
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: wake up and I just Yeah.

1046
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: It's so odd how these women don't believe you when

1047
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: you go. I can't understand where they're where they're thinking that.

1048
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: I understand that just because I am on social media

1049
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: does not mean that I want to talk to anything.

1050
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that I'm up, because I could

1051
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: be sleep on social media too, Like if I'm in

1052
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: the bed and I'm liking the feed on I just

1053
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: got my phone right here, like I'm not really up,

1054
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm still sleep.

1055
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: I was trying to healthy.

1056
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: Issue is not said you got to be up up

1057
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: for a conversation like with a woman you're dating.

1058
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: You guys are missing the point. You don't got to

1059
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: be up to know that you like a picture.

1060
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: The issue is not that you're on social media and

1061
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 3: don't want to talk to somebody. It's that you lied about.

1062
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: What you were doing and continued and social media would

1063
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: snitched on you. But what I was? But what if

1064
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: I was really sleeping?

1065
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: Now I'm up though, Okay, if I tell you I'm

1066
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: sleep at four am and then at five thirty I'm

1067
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: up and I'm on social media, yeah I will sleep

1068
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: for a hour and a half.

1069
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm up. Now, where's the lie?

1070
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 4: Se Mall do you think that you're upbringing and losing

1071
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: people when you were young? I just got really deep

1072
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: on you. Has to do with the fact that you're

1073
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: so easily detached from people, women included. Do you know

1074
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 4: that everybody can die at any moment or be replaced

1075
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 4: at any moment.

1076
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: Jesus the marriage. No, that's not a deep questions. Yeah, no,

1077
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: that's that has nothing to do with it. But if

1078
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: you want to go there, if you want to make

1079
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: it dark dark your call, turn the lights out? How

1080
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: you know it doesn't? Have you ever explored that? Nah?

1081
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't think it has anything to do with when

1082
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: you say detached, Like I don't just like completely like

1083
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 2: cut people off and never speak to them again.

1084
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't do that. But when you get closer to

1085
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: somebody though, No emotionally, yeah.

1086
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: No, it's days where I just don't want to be bothered,

1087
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: Like it's just I'm not talking about forever. I don't

1088
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: just like go ghost forever like it's a day or two.

1089
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't just feel like talking. I

1090
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: don't like doing shit. I don't feel like being bothered.

1091
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Is that something you're willing to compromise on with somebody

1092
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: that you would actually like them. Yeah, I've done it. Okay, Yeah,

1093
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: I've gotten a lot better. Actually, I've gotten a lot better.

1094
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm not as I'm not as bad as I was

1095
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: with ghosting and detaching myself.

1096
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: I'm not as bad.

1097
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: I've worked on it because I've been on the other

1098
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: end of it, and I'm like, damn it, this is

1099
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: how I feel.

1100
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: That's whack. Okay, there's some growth there. Yeah, we can

1101
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: revisit this topic.

1102
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: I think we should try to add the moll therapy

1103
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: segment at least once a month, two times a month.

1104
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: I feel like this helped him. Oh no, this didn't

1105
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: help me. I think he's not going to text their back.

1106
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: I promise you this. You thought that helped though it

1107
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: didn't help me at though. Yop. What up?

1108
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: Hey, Justice, you're a Justice. You're live on air with

1109
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: more and myself. Congrats, man, I want to say congratulations

1110
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: on the album.

1111
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: The album's incredible. Thank you, man.

1112
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 5: I really appreciate y'all. What's up? Mom?

1113
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: What's pop and King?

1114
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, trying to make it in America?

1115
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: Well now you're making it.

1116
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're doing all right, bro, Yeah, you're doing that right.

1117
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: We would be hypocrites. And because I love you, I

1118
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: want you to clear your name. What's going on with this?

1119
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: With this contract bullshit that they that they're spelling. Did

1120
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: London put that in the press to try to kill

1121
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: the release?

1122
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna let y'all do it.

1123
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you out do the journalism and investigation.

1124
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: I knew it was him. Just look at the timing

1125
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: of everything. You know, where the accounting boys. You know

1126
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I want to I want to see

1127
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: that contract. Yeah, listen, we'll clear it up though.

1128
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I just didn't want to get

1129
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 5: in the middle of everything as we.

1130
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Were put on. I guess it's kind of productive for

1131
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: what our goal was. I hear that that makes sense.

1132
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: So it is being resolved for any misunderstandings with Summer and.

1133
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 5: Lurin, Okay, which is none of which is which is

1134
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 5: none of their business.

1135
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: That's the fact it is not it is none of

1136
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: the business. But podcasters. You know what I'm saying.

1137
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 5: It's just like everybody was like, yo, if if surely

1138
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 5: had an issue, you don't.

1139
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: Think she would have think social media?

1140
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: What Summer would never do that she would never go

1141
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 3: on social media for any issues that's having. I could

1142
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: never see her doing that. All right, Well, I'm glad

1143
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: that's that's that's been cleared up.

1144
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: My my thing is all right, so like, let me

1145
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: just make this thing.

1146
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 5: My thing is just like, yeah, guys, we have brought

1147
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 5: y'all not saying but positive vibes the name of our companies.

1148
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 5: How do y'all switch on us quickly because some weird

1149
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 5: article comes out like that's just I don't know.

1150
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't believe people anymore. See this

1151
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: sounds like God, look at our name. It's just loving it.

1152
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: We could never be.

1153
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, ro you've been on vacation with me,

1154
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 5: and I've had all my artists.

1155
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: With me on vacation. That is a fact.

1156
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 6: We have great we have a great relationship.

1157
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 5: It's not it's clearly.

1158
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: The proof is to put it so that is the fact.

1159
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 5: Look at the time and just do all the critical thinking.

1160
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: I'm with you theories out there.

1161
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: If I actually thought that that's what you were doing,

1162
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't have cald you. But I did want

1163
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 3: you to clear it up because I did see that

1164
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 3: flowing around and we were talking about how great Summer's

1165
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: album is. I will say with Boogie's album though, are

1166
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: you holding that hostage?

1167
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: When can we get Boogie music?

1168
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 5: Mm hm, I am holding hostage, but Q one.

1169
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're you're you're the punch to Sissa to

1170
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: Boogie in his capacity.

1171
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: I just had to make sure it's right. Okay, Well, I.

1172
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: Like the two videos y'all put out. All right, cool,

1173
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: I'll let you go. We'll be remiss not to not

1174
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 3: to bring up the article. Congrats again on the release.

1175
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: Just congrats man, all right, talk to.

1176
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 3: You, bron Yeah, congrats Tony. If I had a round

1177
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: of applause, I would do it. Here's an air horn.

1178
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 3: It's a long airhorn. Shout out to noy Man and

1179
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 3: in efn UH and Revolt and Black Effect and Title

1180
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: and Mass Appeal. Norri signed to like seventeen outlets. So

1181
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: shout out to the entire worlds that was involved.

1182
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: Shout out the Biggs because he had he orchestrated a

1183
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: lot of that.

1184
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: Okay, shout out to Biggsy. I heard he was. He

1185
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: was brought up in the interview. What'd you think of it?

1186
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: It was definitely, uh, definitely got a lot of soundbites

1187
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: from it. I think we got a lot of classic

1188
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: clips from it that we're going to see for a

1189
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: long time and here for a long time, I thought

1190
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: I thought it was a It was on brand with

1191
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: the rest of the Kanye interviews we've probably ever received.

1192
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: This one was probably a little more into the mind

1193
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: of the new Kanye or the or yeasy, he's talking

1194
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: with a different bravado now is he?

1195
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I the same. This wasn't the same.

1196
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: I know.

1197
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: The confidence never waivers. It's not the confidence, it's it's

1198
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: just different from you can see where you can you

1199
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: know where he is business wise now versus where he

1200
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: wasn't business wise, which sway okay, you can you can

1201
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: feel the difference. You can see the difference. It's a

1202
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: different type of conversation. Confidence is always there, That's why

1203
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: he's Kanye.

1204
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: Confidence.

1205
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: You have to have the most confidence in yourself, which

1206
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: he never didn't have. But I think the conversation was

1207
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: was different because of who he was sitting with. I

1208
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: think that helps a lot of the time.

1209
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely, sitting down with a guy like Norri who long

1210
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: relationship to them, Yeah, they need some history there.

1211
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: The type of person that Norry is uh and uh

1212
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: e fn is there to kind of buffer when Nori

1213
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 2: doesn't have any clue what the fun people are talking about.

1214
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: Is like it's the perfect perfect is like it's like, Nori,

1215
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: this is what that means? You know.

1216
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: So I thought that was good, great, And then I

1217
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: think the relationships behind the scenes, Uh, Like I said,

1218
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: Biggs had a lot to do with that. And then

1219
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: obviously Puffer Revolt, who who Kanye is is obviously really

1220
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: close with So you could just tell the dynamic and

1221
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: the energy was a little different. He smoked for the

1222
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: first time on camera and I don't know how long, Yeah,

1223
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: probably had a drink on camera for the first time

1224
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: in a very long time as well, since the VM probably, Yeah,

1225
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: So you know, it was just about you could tell

1226
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: the level of comfort was different.

1227
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: And again, you know it's it's just Kanye being Kanye. Man.

1228
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: He's gonna be entertained and he's gonna say shit that

1229
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: he probably shouldn't say, but he doesn't give a fuck,

1230
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: Like what's gonna happen?

1231
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: His business is gonna stop. No.

1232
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: From a podcast point of view, I will say what

1233
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the most about the entire thing was when

1234
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: he kept saying to Nori that you'll you'll be my

1235
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan. Like, I love that part where the biggest

1236
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: superstars in this culture don't have to go with the

1237
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 3: necessary biggest platform that they can find.

1238
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, and Kanye's done Joe Rogan before,

1239
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: I believe, right, Yeah.

1240
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 3: But to say that, like, I love that. I don't

1241
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 3: know why ye chose now to talk. I was gonna

1242
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: ask you that question as well. Why you think he

1243
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: chose this timing because he seems to be calculated wouldn't

1244
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: be the word, because Kanye himself would say he's probably

1245
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: not very calculated, but when he chooses to speak, there's usually.

1246
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: A reason for it. I love that he went right

1247
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: to Norri. I love that he didn't have to go

1248
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: back to Rogan or go to some other big platform

1249
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: that is the number one that he can be, like

1250
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: this is Walt Disney. Like, I love that he went

1251
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: to Drink Champs.

1252
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 3: And not to say Drink Champs is huge, don't get

1253
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 3: it twisted, but I love that superstar and that culture

1254
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: went right to Norri and not to someone else.

1255
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think he kind of spoke to that,

1256
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1257
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: And I think that what that did, and again it

1258
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: speaks to the power of the Yeasy brand.

1259
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: I think what that did for podcasting was amazing. I

1260
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: think that I don't even think Kanye understands what he

1261
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: did for podcasting with doing the Drink Champs episode, But

1262
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: it was it was dope. It was a good watch.

1263
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: I watched it twice because I went on watching when

1264
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: it first came out.

1265
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: Something else was going on that night. I feel like

1266
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: we were doing something and it was kind of like

1267
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: it was on BRO. I wasn't paying attention, so it's

1268
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: a lot of things that I missed, But it was

1269
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: just dope to him talk about, you know, relationship and

1270
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: you know, the whole Drake situation and the issue he

1271
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 2: had there, and you know, him saying he's basically still married.

1272
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: He feels like he's still married.

1273
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's nothing his finals, no divorce papers or

1274
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: anything like that, you know, and then him talking about

1275
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: his movement with Gap and how he was able to,

1276
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: you know, make those numbers do what it did when

1277
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 2: they went public, and you know, so he's just speaking

1278
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: to the power of himself and you know, his brand,

1279
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: and I think it's amazing when you look at a

1280
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: guy like Kanye in his career and where he came

1281
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: from and where he's at now, it's just nothing but

1282
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: motivation and inspiring to basically say, here's a guy that

1283
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: did more than I think anyone thought he was going

1284
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: to be able to do.

1285
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 3: The inspiring side of it, because I remember and shout

1286
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: out to want Epstein, shout out to Siphon in Rosenberg,

1287
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: because I feel like anytime Hove does a podcast or

1288
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: like Yay does a podcast, people forget that they had

1289
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: Hove on their podcast first. They had Kanye on their

1290
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 3: podcast first. Like shout out to Wanup.

1291
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: For being kind of the blueprint for a lot of

1292
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: the shit.

1293
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember him being on there saying that whole

1294
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: I'm the new Elon Musk, I'm the new like I'm

1295
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: these people, And he did those rants all the time

1296
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: during the Yeasest to all that shit, right, it was

1297
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: kind of cool to see him say all those names

1298
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: again bezos and say those are my peers and actually

1299
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: mean it this time like it happened. You did kind

1300
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 3: of manifest that shit absolutely Now it does in negate

1301
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: some of the bullshit that you did to get there

1302
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: with certain people that you align yourself with. But I

1303
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 3: can never take away and who the fuck would I

1304
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 3: to be to begin with take away Kanye's contributions and

1305
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: the way he is pushing shit for So that was

1306
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 3: really nice to see. I thought some of the shots

1307
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: he was taking adjustin and quality and Sean I thought

1308
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 3: was like.

1309
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: It's super weird, but that's Kanye's shit. Like if you

1310
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: let if you put a mic.

1311
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: In front of Kanye long enough and let him talk,

1312
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna say some things that he shouldn't say. Of

1313
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: course you know that about Kanye ready, And I think

1314
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: we went into it like, Okay, what is he going

1315
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: to say this time? Because I know when I heard

1316
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: he was doing the drink Champs, like, I was like,

1317
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: all right, I can't because I know it's a different

1318
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: level of comfort with Nory, So I knew that it

1319
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 2: was going to be some things he was going to say.

1320
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: That was like, damn, Like now the just thing I

1321
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: didn't expect be on that caught me off. God. I

1322
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: was like, that's a little you know, foul, you know

1323
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, damn.

1324
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: Well, I'm on record not a doctor at all, but

1325
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: I've dealt with a lot of people that have had Asperger's.

1326
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: So I do know that behavior very much. And I

1327
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: said a bunch of times I think Kanye has aspergs.

1328
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 3: He doesn't really know how to act in social situations

1329
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: and say the right things.

1330
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: Well, he had his mind. He alluded to that and

1331
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: he said he's a little on the spectrum. Yeah we are,

1332
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: but he's just more on the spectrum. So yeah, I mean,

1333
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, he he he understands that.

1334
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: And I think Kanye is just he's just he's just

1335
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: again I don't want I don't trying to say bruly honest,

1336
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: but he is that guy. He's gonna say things where

1337
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: it's just like that's going to offend somebody, but you

1338
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: understand what he's trying to say.

1339
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 3: It's it's who he offended and how he did it

1340
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 3: because it was kind of like damn right, So he

1341
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: probably felt that way when the Blue creb was being made,

1342
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: of course, and you've bigged up just work with just

1343
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: like that's what I kind of hate and I'm but

1344
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 3: have done it before too, when I've gotten mad, I've

1345
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 3: said things that I probably thought about someone for a

1346
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: long time, and I should have just said that to

1347
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: begin with, because that's like some real funny shit. But

1348
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 3: like the praise you gave Kuali for so long, of

1349
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: like him being the first rapper to put you on

1350
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: as a rapper, like he's the reason for that. To

1351
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 3: say you hate his raps like that could be your preference.

1352
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: But some shit you just don't got to say.

1353
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, there's something's something that you yourself,

1354
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: you don't need to say it.

1355
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: But again, this is publicly. If you want to be

1356
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: in the studio said quality, that verse sucks, but that's

1357
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: what the producer do.

1358
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: But we know that Kanye is the exact opposite. He's

1359
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: going to always say things publicly that he shouldn't say.

1360
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: It's just who was he going to say it about

1361
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: this time?

1362
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: Did I think it was going to be just Blaze? No?

1363
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: Did I think kuality was gonna catch it straight? No?

1364
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: Those weren't the names I was going to reach for.

1365
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to dig more into the

1366
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: whole Drake situation than any thing.

1367
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm over it. I don't care. I was skipping through

1368
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: that part. Yeah, I mean, you over it.

1369
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: But this was his first time speaking publicly since a

1370
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: lot of things or have or haven't transpired since the

1371
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 2: albums came out, you know, six days apart from each other,

1372
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that whole back and forth.

1373
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: So I thought that it was going to be more

1374
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: talk on that, like what was the hesitancy about the

1375
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: back and forth? Like who's going to drop first? Like

1376
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to dig more into that.

1377
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: So I was expecting to hear some some some things

1378
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: about that, but just Colter Stra Quality, colder stra Big, Sean,

1379
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: colt Astra.

1380
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to fully understand that pig Sean Win

1381
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: me too, especially since Sean put out a photo of

1382
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: him seeing Yay like two weeks ago and was like, Yo,

1383
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: this was after this interview and you didn't say any

1384
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: of that to me. And the John Legend thing, because

1385
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: of course John Legend was vocal when YA did the

1386
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: Trump shit, but then also said, Hey, I'm texting him

1387
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: going to his house. We're going to discuss it.

1388
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 3: Like I felt John Legend for who he is publicly

1389
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 3: when it comes to political shit, and Yeay being so

1390
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: close to him, I thought John handled that ship like

1391
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 3: with grace and was really dope and was a good

1392
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: friend and still was sticking to his political points on

1393
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: what he thought Kanye was wrong.

1394
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: About politics, Big Sean handled even better. I thought Sean

1395
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: just shut the fuck up. He didn't say shit bad

1396
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: about YEA or good about yay or anything. You just

1397
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: shut up.

1398
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: Like that's if he wants to go do his Trump thing.

1399
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with me. I'm gonna just

1400
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: be quiet.

1401
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: So just to say that.

1402
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: You're in your grave because you signed Big Sean, like

1403
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 3: that's some real foul shit because because all.

1404
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: Right, I agree, Yeah, that's who Kanye is.

1405
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 3: Because if we keeping a buck with good music, which

1406
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite labels ever HM in that

1407
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 3: era of Drake coming up, Kendrick coming up, Jake Cole

1408
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: coming up, when they were all doing those like sub

1409
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 3: label battles, Sean k he kept good music relevant to

1410
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: the younger crowd.

1411
01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: Oh for sure.

1412
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: Like say, your biggest mistake would be to sign Big

1413
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 3: Sean Dogg. That kept your label with the kidsoat like

1414
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: what yes, Push, we love Push Pushes from our era

1415
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 3: Push of course help keep that shit float, we love

1416
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: Common Great Love, Tiana Sean demographic to that when when

1417
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: good music was in its prime as a label, Sean

1418
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 3: is the top tier rapper that kept y'all moving irrelevant

1419
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 3: as far as a label outside of the obvious Kanye West.

1420
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: But I just think that's some foul shit to say.

1421
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: No it is, and again, but this is Kanye. I

1422
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: think Kanye is just an extremist and a lot. So

1423
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: even if he says something, it's going to be like

1424
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: the extreme, you know what I mean. If he's talking

1425
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: about somebody, it's going to be a little extreme, Like

1426
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: does he feel some type of way towards Big Sean

1427
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: in business? And maybe Big Sean wanted to be off

1428
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: good music and all of that behind the scenes shit

1429
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: that probably was on his mind, like damn, like you know,

1430
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you want to fuck with me like I

1431
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 2: fuck with you? So he probably just said something about

1432
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 2: Sean in that moment where it was just like it

1433
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: was a little extreme.

1434
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: But you can't Is he mad that he signed Big Sean?

1435
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because you can't have everything.

1436
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: You said in that interview and then be mad if

1437
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 3: Sean wants to get off your label.

1438
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: I agree with you, No, I'm with you. But again,

1439
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: were talking about Kanye.

1440
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: When I first saw the clip, I thought he was

1441
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 3: actually saying some ill shit. I thought he was saying

1442
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 3: this was.

1443
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: Like this, you mean the worst, Like, oh my god, Like.

1444
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 3: I thought he was saying, like, damn, Sean is such

1445
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 3: a great artist. I should have never signed him to

1446
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 3: a deal that would hold him in a battle. Because

1447
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 3: Kanye at that point too, that was such the major

1448
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: label system of Regulast contracts. Kanye probably even know what

1449
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 3: he was doing when he was signing Sean like that.

1450
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: He didn't know what he was taking from Sean. So

1451
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 3: that's what I thought he was getting. I was like, Oh,

1452
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 3: that's ill. I like that he said that, And then

1453
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 3: I went back, I was like, oh, wait, you like,

1454
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 3: are really upset that you like he was a bad person.

1455
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: But was he really upset? Because, like I said, I

1456
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: love the fact that Sean put that picture out with

1457
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: him and uh Kanye and boy right.

1458
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he was like, yo, I just saw you

1459
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: and this was after you did this interview, like and

1460
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: it wasn't this type of energy at all.

1461
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: So where's this coming from? You know what I mean?

1462
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: So again, that just speaks to the point of Kanye

1463
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: is going to say things sometimes that's going to be

1464
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: a little exaggerated and things that he shouldn't say. But

1465
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: that's Kanye. That's what he does. He's been doing that forever.

1466
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: I think I think we give not enough credit to

1467
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: who Kanye West is as a.

1468
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: Person publicly to Dame.

1469
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that in a bad way or

1470
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 3: a good way, but Dame and Kanye are so good

1471
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 3: at saying some simple shit in such a fucking compelling way.

1472
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: Like if you go look at the Breakfast Club interview

1473
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: and look at the Ya Norise shit, they're very similar

1474
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: people and how they give their delivery and how they

1475
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 3: explain things, and how they bring you in to care

1476
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: about a very simple point.

1477
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: Like that was one thing I liked about the episode

1478
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: is when he said I'm Jay and I'm Dan. You

1479
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and you can see it with

1480
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: Dame rubbed off on him. It's it really just boils

1481
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: down to you know, Dame has always been a guy

1482
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 2: of ultimate confidence and you know, how do we don't

1483
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: need you to do what we want to do with

1484
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: our culture?

1485
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: These are things that Dame has been preaching forever. You

1486
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: go back and look at that Breakfast Club interview with

1487
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: Dame now and how it resonates, especially with us hell today,

1488
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: It's like.

1489
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,919
Speaker 2: Oh, this is what he was preaching. You know, owner shit.

1490
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: While we can't own our own shit, we don't need

1491
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: these people. We could do this on our own, do

1492
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: it together, you know what I mean. So it's like

1493
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: you understand that the mind of Dame. I think Dame

1494
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: just says it in a way where it just rubs

1495
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: people the wrong way at times.

1496
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: And should he be you know? Is that on Dame?

1497
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, not really, It shouldn't be right. It's

1498
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: like you are right.

1499
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: It's more so like I'm speaking about business and getting

1500
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: this done and us doing things the right way and

1501
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: us owning our own shit, And why does that offend somebody?

1502
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: Like that shouldn't offend you? That I want to own

1503
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: my own shit, you know what I mean? So insecurity,

1504
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: it's insecurities. So you know, Kanye took a page out

1505
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: of that book, and it was dope for him to

1506
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: give that that love and say, you know, I am

1507
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: Jay and I am Dame. Because I remember when Kanye

1508
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 2: first started coming around, he was a totally different individual,

1509
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I remember it may have

1510
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: been his first or second day at Baseline and he

1511
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 2: was just bringing beats through and I didn't know who

1512
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: he was. They told me that this was a producer

1513
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: that he was working with and that was gonna be

1514
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: probably producing on Jay's album. And I remember Kanye had

1515
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 2: on like a motorcycle jacket and some Durrango boots.

1516
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: It just wasn't like our fashion.

1517
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even back then, you could tell he was

1518
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 2: always on his own shit.

1519
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: Yea.

1520
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: It was like he gonna dress with he gonna wear

1521
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: he want to wear. That was fly to him, me me,

1522
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 2: and from New York. It was a weird time in

1523
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: New York where the dudes wearing Durrango boots too, Like

1524
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: some dudes kind of jumped in that lane that was

1525
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: never no, it was dudes uptown wearing Drango boots. And

1526
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: I was kind of like, yo that I don't know,

1527
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick to the TEMs and to be from

1528
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: Rockey fam, like I'm not gonna do the Durrangos.

1529
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: But I remember that. I remember Kanye being at Baseline

1530
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: and you could just tell he was just different. From

1531
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: day one. He was just different. He was on his

1532
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: own page. He was doing what he wanted to do,

1533
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: and you know, a year later, it was like, you know,

1534
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: this dude is out.

1535
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 3: Of here and this this was for the compilation before

1536
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: the Blueprint NT.

1537
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: This was no, this was this was Blueprint This is

1538
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: Blueprint one. Okay, this was Blueprint one.

1539
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: I think Jay was still recording Blueprint one when I

1540
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: first met Kanye at Baseline.

1541
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was Blueprint one.

1542
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: Beans was recording some joints because I know Kanye had

1543
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: some joints with Beans around that time. And it was

1544
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: dope for him to say that he's going to give

1545
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: beans Uh some money because he gave him the name Yeezy,

1546
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: you give him some stock in yeasy. So that was

1547
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it still remains to be seen the feel

1548
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: actually do it, but the fact that he said it

1549
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, okay, that's real.

1550
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1551
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 3: I mean I do want to see more of the

1552
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: follow up Kanye in that sense, because I loved when

1553
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 3: he was tweeting about the master Ship and then we

1554
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: don't know what happened with that. Not to say that

1555
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: I have to know it's still doing it exactly, but

1556
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 3: it remains to be seen. With popular people, they'll say

1557
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: a lot of shit and will praise them for it,

1558
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 3: and it's like you're actually doing it though. Yeah, but

1559
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 3: I did like that along with whole mentioning Dame and

1560
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 3: the speech too. It was nice as a baby Rockefeller fan, like,

1561
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 3: it was nice to see this this past two weeks

1562
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 3: of everyone kind of like Biggs is at d YA shit,

1563
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 3: Jay is talking about Dame at the Hall of Fame shit,

1564
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 3: and Kanye is getting into the beans.

1565
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: So I love that. But I don't know what's going on.

1566
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: I haven't asked Biggs, but he's been with Kanye for

1567
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: a few, like maybe two weeks now.

1568
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: They've been in Miami running around.

1569
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if yeah, he's still there, but I

1570
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: just when he told me that kind of raised my eyebrow, like,

1571
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: what's going on?

1572
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, what's happening?

1573
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: And obviously the Drink championshit happened and all of that,

1574
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: but it's good to see, like you said, that energy

1575
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: of you know, people that started out together kind of

1576
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: sort of trying to like mend some relationships that may

1577
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: have you know, been broken through years of business and

1578
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: you know, just people going their separate ways and growing

1579
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: this separate ways. Like sometimes it just has to happen

1580
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: like that. I can't grow with you. I have to

1581
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: go over here and do this. But we're gonna find

1582
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: out way back to do something together with. It's like, bro,

1583
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: I never forgot you, like you was an intricate part

1584
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: in my growth and my development, Like I'm forever and

1585
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: debted to you.

1586
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: So it's good to see that type of energy where

1587
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: it's really no bad blood.

1588
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: The Jay and Dame shit was always you know, fucked

1589
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: up to me, Yeah, because I know the love that's

1590
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 2: really there, you know what I'm saying. So it's good

1591
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 2: to see that that energy is kind of sort of

1592
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: like bringing this way back.

1593
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: But I mean maybe it was purposeful in the sense

1594
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 3: that to your point of growing separately, I couldn't think

1595
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 3: of a better time now for four genius minds that

1596
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 3: have been doing things on their own Yay, Dame, Biggs

1597
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 3: and Kanye to just not fuck with each other for

1598
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: a while and then come back together in this moment

1599
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 3: with all the other shit they have going on together.

1600
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 3: So I do hope that does happen.

1601
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1602
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy to say things and you know,

1603
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: put things out there, but it's still a lot behind

1604
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: the scenes that I know. It is, like, it's a

1605
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 2: lot of hurdles, you know what I'm saying. It's a

1606
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: lot of ere now more than ever. You know, everybody

1607
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 2: has an ego, but now more than ever, the egos

1608
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: are like huge. Yeah, so it's like, but if you

1609
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: can get around.

1610
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 3: Only time we've ever seen ya not have an ego

1611
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 3: to me was this interview in certain parts when Jay

1612
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 3: was brought up.

1613
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: Oh, no, it's the Boss. I can't I can't do

1614
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: verses against him. Yes, the Boss, I mean, but again

1615
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: I like that because too it's it's the truth, you

1616
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's the truth.

1617
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: And it's like it still shows that no matter how

1618
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: big Kanye is and he becomes, he's always going to

1619
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: have that like big brother little brother thing for Jay

1620
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: where it's like, bro, if it wasn't for you, like

1621
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, if my career ever takes

1622
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: off the way.

1623
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 3: To the same thing with Dame, Like no matter what

1624
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 3: Dan's going through, Dame would be good forever because like that, Yeah,

1625
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 3: that's stripping your ego. So I do think there is

1626
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 3: some hope this a lot. I think Dame on Ig

1627
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: came back and said, yeah, maybe we could we could

1628
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 3: talk again, we could figure it out out the way. Yeah,

1629
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 3: So I think there's a hope.

1630
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: So I would love to see it, Man, you gotta

1631
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,440
Speaker 2: put it together. It's really on you.

1632
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: It's not on me, but I would love to see it.

1633
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: The only thing I Hope.

1634
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 3: Said to me at the premiere was hey, you lost

1635
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: weight and then punched me in the ribs and I

1636
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 3: have a broken rib, So I mean, well, you know

1637
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 3: that's his way broken rib already. Jy didn't break my rib.

1638
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know. I don't.

1639
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to put too much into it to

1640
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,879
Speaker 2: the idea of you know, them kind of mending their relationships,

1641
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 2: because again, it's personal for me, and if it doesn't happen,

1642
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

1643
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: Be like, yes, this is whack.

1644
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: But I love the fact that people are talking, and

1645
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: I love the fact that Jay. But Jay's honorable, so

1646
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 2: him shouting out Dame at the Rock and the Hall

1647
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: of Fame, I didn't expect anything less like, yeah, they didn't. Yeah,

1648
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, but again, I just know

1649
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 2: how egos are and how shit could get in the way,

1650
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna put too much stock into it.

1651
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: I hate that. Well, yeah, congrats to to Noor and

1652
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: e f n Again, I love you, huge numbers.

1653
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 3: I think that was like six mil I think ye

1654
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 3: where you will go up even more because that was

1655
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 3: over the weekend, so you know that's weak. People will

1656
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: watch that ship. And I hope Ya talks more. I'll

1657
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 3: be honest with you. Yeah, I hope with the right people.

1658
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the right people, those like again Nori.

1659
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: That type of platform is real easy, real comfortable for him,

1660
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: and I think that that helps with those type of

1661
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: people that kind of like you know, they they kind

1662
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: of are sheltered and closed in when it comes to,

1663
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: you know, being vulnerable with random people just because they

1664
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: have a show that that doesn't work for Kanye.

1665
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: Sitting down with somebody like Nori who is not going

1666
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: to grill you and you know, give you this Barbara

1667
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: waltzs type of vibe that's perfect for Kanye. He can

1668
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: be himself and NOI still asked the right questions. He

1669
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: absolutely did.

1670
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 2: I love the fact that him comparing, you know, asking

1671
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: which rappers he like that which producers. It was dope

1672
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: to see that side of Kanye because you could really

1673
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: go back into him being a fan, like growing up

1674
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: as a fan of a lot of these artists and

1675
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So that was dope to see that

1676
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 2: side of Kanye.

1677
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 3: I will say that the last Kanye point what I

1678
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 3: did love was that Hove did not give Watch the

1679
01:11:53,520 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 3: Throne the song Holy Grail, and yeah, that song.

1680
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: Is not good.

1681
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 3: Justin Timberay comes in and kills that intro bodies it,

1682
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 3: and then you get some of the worst Timbland drums

1683
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 3: I've ever heard.

1684
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: In my fucking life. Some of those. Yes, thank God

1685
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: that record. If we don't if that becomes the intro

1686
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: to Watch the Throne, we don't get no Church in

1687
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: the wild. So Jay was selfish on that. Boy absolutely.

1688
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 3: If it's between Justin killed that ship, those Timberland drums

1689
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 3: are not They're just not good.

1690
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: I can't remember the drums on that, but we're good.

1691
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: That's probably because they weren't that good.

1692
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: They're just not good at all. Old on somebody talk

1693
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 3: or just market.

1694
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 4: So you have something against Watch, I mean against Magna Carta.

1695
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: I don't any think against Magnaicarta. I like Magna Carta.

1696
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: He didn't have the phone. It was the phone that

1697
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: came the Sam Sum ship. He didn't get, So, yeah,

1698
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: use our phone guy back then.

1699
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: No, I just I know, I think Holy Rails cool.

1700
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 3: It's definitely not my favorite j album.

1701
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: I think Ian between Holy Grail and Wash the Throne.

1702
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: Everybody's obviously going.

1703
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 3: Listen, Justin's killing this ship, and for those watching on YouTube,

1704
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 3: we're actually listening to the record right now, like this

1705
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 3: build up and then even in the commercial they killed

1706
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 3: it right before the drums came on, like, oh damn,

1707
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:19,839
Speaker 3: we blew out the speakers.

1708
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: No you didn't. The speakers were not blown. Holy Grau

1709
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 1: told me you were niggas. These drums about cut up

1710
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: in all these nightly trampers.

1711
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: The build up that Justin did on that ship compared

1712
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 3: to that, thank God that wasn't gonna watch it thrown.

1713
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: The drums aren't terrible, but I wouldn't have used those

1714
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: drums on that record.

1715
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: They work on another. I know what you mean. That

1716
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: was ants I've ever heard of, because the drum with

1717
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: me because the drugs are Jay is my favorite rapper

1718
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: and I can say similar, great produce.

1719
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 2: But listen, the drums aren't bad just on that record.

1720
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: They didn't fit with that build up, that build up.

1721
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: So but if those drums on another record, maybe that's

1722
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: all I'm saying, Like on that record, no, but they're

1723
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 2: not terrible. It's not it doesn't sound like I did

1724
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: the beat like, it's not terrible drums. It's just like

1725
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: I didn't wasn't expecting that after that, justin build up.

1726
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I My only issue with I don't even

1727
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,919
Speaker 3: know of course they's gonna come a jay Z podcast

1728
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 3: with this album is I think it was the most

1729
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 3: detached from his fan base Jay has ever been. He

1730
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: was too rich and famous at that point, and it

1731
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 3: was literally like Doug, I just want a Picasso, like dog,

1732
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 3: I just want to slice a pizza.

1733
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: Like it was.

1734
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 3: The album was too rich. There wasn't one like relatable bar.

1735
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 3: I gotta go back on the entire album. I got

1736
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 3: good music. Yeah, I got to go back and listen

1737
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 3: to it.

1738
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 2: I think now, you know, being a little older, and

1739
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: you know, I think I think listening to albums back

1740
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 2: then now, I think they hit a little different.

1741
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1742
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 3: I think it was too uh too much of the

1743
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 3: greats if that makes sense.

1744
01:14:59,120 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you mean.

1745
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 3: It was just too much of it, like we're getting

1746
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 3: too much of the A list together like the Lakers

1747
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 3: right now, we're kind of we're kind of too rich

1748
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: and detached of what's going on right now. That was

1749
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: my only issue. It's still good album, but that was

1750
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 3: my only problem with Well. Shout out to Norrie, shout

1751
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 3: out to DJ e f N, shout out to Drink

1752
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 3: Champs for Vault Massive Pills.

1753
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 2: Uh, and anybody else that had a hand in making

1754
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: that interview happen. Definitely was a classic, definitely elevated the

1755
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 2: podcasting platform.

1756
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: And we answered with hit Boy, I loved our conversation. No,

1757
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: I think it was dope. I think it was really dope.

1758
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: I think it was I'm just laughing at us answering. Yeah, No,

1759
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: that was I promise you that was the answer we

1760
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: answered that answer was nobody heard that answer?

1761
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 3: Well, we we shot that before the Kanye Yeah.

1762
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

1763
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know when the Kanye interview actually happened,

1764
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 3: but beforeege that.

1765
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: It was before that.

1766
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 3: Before that, I thought it was a great, great combo,

1767
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 3: like yeah, even without the Kanye shit going on, I

1768
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: still would have wanted to put that out at the

1769
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 3: same time.

1770
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: No, that had nothing to do with it. For me.

1771
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: I just thought that it made sense with obviously what

1772
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 2: what what did happen with the Kanye ship?

1773
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: But to me, it was just about celebrating hit Boy.

1774
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people said they had never

1775
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 2: really listened to a hit boy interview before and like

1776
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: listen to him like shit down.

1777
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: And talk so that they enjoyed it.

1778
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: They learned different things about him, different sides of him, different,

1779
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 2: you know, got a different energy from him.

1780
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: Like I didn't even realize he was that question that

1781
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: he was. He's quite dude, Yeah you know what I mean.

1782
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: So I thought it was dope. So yeah, shout out

1783
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: the hit boy and.

1784
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could tell he was in no way would

1785
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: I say nervous about it, but just he doesn't do

1786
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 3: press like that.

1787
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

1788
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 3: Him and I were talking and he was like did

1789
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 3: I go to And I was like, nah, you didn't.

1790
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 3: I mean you got yeah for him, I think he

1791
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 3: just never did that publicly. And kind of felt, I mean,

1792
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 3: you got your truth off. No matter what you say,

1793
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 3: it's not gonna along to you anyways.

1794
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: It's going to be interpreted by whoever the fuck.

1795
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 3: So if you start worrying about how you're going to

1796
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 3: come across, you're gonna lose your fucking mind. So just

1797
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: to just be happy you got you got your shit off,

1798
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 3: and I thought you did it in a graceful way.

1799
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: And I think I think that was important for people

1800
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 2: to hear that too, because you know, again, somebody as

1801
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: as you know, big as Kanye, you know, possibly stepping

1802
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 2: in the way of your career and saying you don't.

1803
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: Work with them.

1804
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: It's crazy for him to be able to pivot around

1805
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: that and still have the success that he's had. That's

1806
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: a very inspiring thing for people. I think people need

1807
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 2: to hear that they're going to be obstacles. They're going

1808
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 2: to be people that's gonna, you know, try to get

1809
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 2: in your way, and people that you look up to,

1810
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: because that's another side of the game that people don't tell.

1811
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 2: You know, you're a fan of of somebody and you know,

1812
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 2: you look at them from a fart and one day

1813
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: you're in the room working with them or working for them,

1814
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: and they come to find out, you know, they don't

1815
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: They kind of hinder you a little bit. They're like, nah,

1816
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: don't do nothing with it, or don't work with this

1817
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: person and don't do that. It's a it's a tough

1818
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: pill to swallow. It's like, damn, Like this is somebody

1819
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: I look up to to, somebody who I had posters

1820
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: on my wall, and now they're telling people not to

1821
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 2: work with me, Like, yeah, so that was something I

1822
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 2: think that people needed to hear and understand that, Yeah,

1823
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,839
Speaker 2: that may happen, but that doesn't mean that your goals

1824
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: can't be reached and that your dreams can't be a reality.

1825
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: If Kanye West is telling people not to work with

1826
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: you and you got two full albums with NAS, you

1827
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: were a different dude.

1828
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was inspiring. So I thought that was

1829
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: dope for hip BOYD to sit down with us and

1830
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: put that out there. Yeah, I liked it. I liked it.

1831
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: Sports related Scottie Pippen, I agree with him. Yeah, so

1832
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen has been on one man. I don't know,

1833
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: you know.

1834
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I know jealousy is a real thing, and

1835
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: I know envy is a is a real thing, but

1836
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: it's getting a little weird with Scottie Pippen.

1837
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: You think this comment was jealous and envious? Absolutely, I know.

1838
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 2: I think I think Scottie Pippen has because I think

1839
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: Scotty Pippen realizes he was a great player. But it's

1840
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: just hard when you we're playing with the greatest player,

1841
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 2: so you're not going to get everything that you probably

1842
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: feel like you should have got. You're not going to

1843
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 2: get all of the accolades and all of the acknowledgment

1844
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 2: that you feel like you should have received because you're

1845
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,919
Speaker 2: playing with the greatest ever. So it's like, I understand

1846
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: it where it may be some feelings there where it's like, damn,

1847
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: like because I saw something else where. He was saying

1848
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: that he didn't receive any payment from the Last Dance

1849
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: documentary and that Michael Jordan made ten million. Scotty Pippen,

1850
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: if you think that Michael Jordan cares about ten million

1851
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 2: dollars that he received from that documentary.

1852
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean Scotty doesn't care about it. But that's so

1853
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: the levels.

1854
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 2: So while Mike probably donated all of that money to

1855
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: some charity somewhere, like, it's not the documentary was about Michael.

1856
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: You care about the kids. Michael doesn't care about the kids,

1857
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: But that documentary was about Michael Jordan. Of course that

1858
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: wasn't about Scotty Pippen. About Scotty because he was he

1859
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: was a part of the legacy, and that's Scotty's fucking point. Yeah,

1860
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: but this is not your documentary, So why would you

1861
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 1: receive compensation for this?

1862
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 2: Like that was just weird. But again, that speaks to

1863
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 2: other feelings that may be there for Mike. This is

1864
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like there's some other feelings that I

1865
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 2: think he harbors towards.

1866
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: And Scotty was in it, right, yeah, yeah, you can't

1867
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: tell a Michael Jordan's story because I don't even want

1868
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: it to come across I was interviewed in it, right yeah, yeah,

1869
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: absolutely so, But that's what I'm saying.

1870
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: I don't want it to come across like Scotty doesn't

1871
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 2: deserve something, because that's you know, Scotty Pippen is one

1872
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: of the greatest at his position ever. He changed the

1873
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: small forward position. I would never try to take anything

1874
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: away from Scotty. But Michael Jordan.

1875
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: Is the guy and he's not saying otherwise. He's not

1876
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: saying it, but I think he's alluding to it. Like

1877
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: play the clip because I'm curious how you.

1878
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 6: Was your relationship like off the court. It wasn't what

1879
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 6: you saw on the court. We always will have that

1880
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 6: respect for each other, but our friendship is not where

1881
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 6: people see it on TV think it is. Do you

1882
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 6: think that Michael would be as successful without you? No,

1883
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 6: But I don't think I would be successful without him.

1884
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 6: I think we both complimented each other in a lot

1885
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 6: of different ways, and we kind of competed and pushed each.

1886
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: Other to be where's the jealousy and envying that. Scotty's right, No,

1887
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: he's right, but him. You know, this is just one interview.

1888
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: There's been a few over the years where it's like

1889
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: you can kind of feel like Scotty feels like he

1890
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: always was in Mike's shadow.

1891
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: Well, he was right.

1892
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is he may have some feelings

1893
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: about that. He may feel a way about that, like

1894
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: which is you understand it, because again, especially when your athlete,

1895
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 2: it's competitive, it's ego, it's it's all of those things.

1896
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, when you get to a

1897
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 2: point where as an older man, you start like, I

1898
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 2: think he said something and this is when I knew

1899
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 2: it was weird, And he says something about he felt

1900
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: like Lebron would kill Mike something.

1901
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: He made some statement like that where they asked him

1902
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: Lebron or Jordan and he was like, Lebron, okay and cool.

1903
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 2: Lebron is a great Nobody's gonna argue Lebron's one of

1904
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 2: the greatest players ever. But this is a guy that

1905
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: you won six rings with. This is a guy who

1906
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: they say is arguably the greatest to ever play. I

1907
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: just didn't understand why he would say Lebron in that

1908
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: sage like you won with Mike. It wasn't like you're not.

1909
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 3: A think he's the person that could accurately give that

1910
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 3: answer more than anybody because he played, He was number

1911
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 3: two to Mike play with him. And now he's watching

1912
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 3: Leron and says, hey, I know how Mike operate. I

1913
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 3: think Bron would win. I'm not saying that, but he

1914
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 3: would be one. You think it came from a place

1915
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 3: of just not fucking with Mike absolutely, which is fine too,

1916
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 3: but he.

1917
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: Suld it's not fine if it comes from a place

1918
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: because you feel like you was always in his shadow.

1919
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 2: Like that's a great shadow to be in, if you're

1920
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: gonna be in anybody's shadow, being in Michael Jordan's shadow,

1921
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 2: and Scotty held his own because when Mike retired and

1922
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: Scotty had to hold at one point.

1923
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: He was probably the He probably should have been MVP

1924
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: that year, you know what I mean.

1925
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 2: Like, so it's like you understand, you know, Scotty wasn't

1926
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 2: just a chump like he was a he's a great player,

1927
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 2: but Michael Jordan is Michael Jordan.

1928
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 3: That's so he's allowed to feel like, yo, I need

1929
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 3: my credit now, Like, but what kind of my entire

1930
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 3: career as kind of being the stereotypical pun or joke

1931
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 3: to a sidekick like Batman Robin shit, Like it's Michael

1932
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 3: and Scotty when I was a top tier fucking player

1933
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 3: and y'all need to put some respect on my name

1934
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 3: for that.

1935
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's just accountability thing. You saw the Last

1936
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: Dance documentary, Mike advised Scotty not to sign that contract

1937
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 2: that he signed, so we can we can kind of

1938
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 2: sort of see where Scotty's not the sharpest knife in

1939
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: the draw.

1940
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: Well, like, that's all I'm saying here. We can kind

1941
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: of like you lost your future with a great It's

1942
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1943
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 2: It's a lot of shit around Scotty where it's like,

1944
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: all right, man, we love you. You was one of

1945
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: the greats at your position of all time, one of

1946
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 2: the greatest more forwards to ever play the game, no

1947
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: doubt about it. But you got some questionable shit around you.

1948
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 2: It's all I'm saying with Scotty, and I think now

1949
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, even now he's only in the

1950
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 2: headlines because he's talking about Mike, So it's like, you

1951
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean, It's like, I understand.

1952
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: You're going to ask him regardless, and I.

1953
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 2: Think that's what he I think that's what he has

1954
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: a tough time dealing with, is that people are gonna

1955
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: only talk to him and it's gonna be like Michael Jordan,

1956
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: you know.

1957
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: But it's like, what's wrong with that? He was a

1958
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: major part of that. He's got to understand. Yeah, he

1959
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: was a major part of that.

1960
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: He was a major part of it. But I think

1961
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: that he just feels like he doesn't get acknowledged on

1962
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 2: his own as much as he would like to. And

1963
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: you know, I mean again, he should.

1964
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 3: Handle it like Big Boy, because I've always said Big

1965
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:54,799
Speaker 3: Boy as a top tier lyricist.

1966
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: He just happened to be in a group with a.

1967
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: Unicorns exactly, same shit, same but big boys not running

1968
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: around talking about Uh. I think that the baby is

1969
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 2: better than Auldred three thousand. It's like the baby is

1970
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: doing great right now, killing them numbers charts everywhere, like

1971
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: he's doing amazing, but slow down, you know what I mean.

1972
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: And that's all I'm saying. A big boy does say that,

1973
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: it's like it's like, yo, come on, slow down fan,

1974
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: Like we understand, but it's like you really that upset

1975
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: with Mike? What Mike? What Mike didn't?

1976
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 3: First of all, the baby is not the Lebron James

1977
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 3: of rapping. I just want to make that clear.

1978
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying no, I'm not saying he is.

1979
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's kind of like the newer you

1980
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 2: know generation, who's the top dog in the newer generation?

1981
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, I guess I see both sides.

1982
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 3: I just think Scotty should get a shit off like

1983
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 3: he was a phenomenal.

1984
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Fucking plagerie and major sometimes. But let's go back. Let's

1985
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: go back to the Breakfast Club interview with Damon. He said, Hey,

1986
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 1: stop asking me about that man. Yeah, I agree, same thing.

1987
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: Stop asking me about that guy. Scotty Pipping is Dame.

1988
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: I get it.

1989
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 2: You see how I look. I'm just saying like it's

1990
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: I understand, major part of the history, but it's like

1991
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 2: you was, it's always going to be about the whole documentary.

1992
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 2: Leave me the fuck alone. Go watch the Doctor. But

1993
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: then now you're mad that he got paid on his documentary.

1994
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, Like, it's just like.

1995
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're just mad about everything. When you

1996
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: do your doc, I'm charging you.

1997
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: Oh you gotta pay Mike. You know you gotta pay

1998
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: Mike to pull up to do Scotty's doc. You got

1999
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 2: to get me there, Jet. You know all of that.

2000
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: Mike is not doing Scotty's dot. I think he would.

2001
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: I think he would. Mike is not a hater. He

2002
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as a hater. Mike strikes me as

2003
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: a hater. Name one, name one.

2004
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 2: Instance with Mike hated besides the Dream Team with Isaiah Thomas,

2005
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 2: and I only think Mike said he ain't have nothing

2006
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: to do with it.

2007
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 1: I believe him.

2008
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 3: His entire competitive career, he was hating. He's hated everybody.

2009
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 3: That's why he's such a good competitor. He fucking hates everyone.

2010
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 3: That's a different hate, but it's still hate. Yeah, but

2011
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: that's a different hate.

2012
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: But he's gonna hate on you. You're right, that's a

2013
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: different hate though, Like Kobe had that hate too. As

2014
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: far as you're just such a you need it, you know,

2015
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm just saying he hates. Yeah, I hate.

2016
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: I hate all of you.

2017
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 3: But that mentality bleeds into your personal life too.

2018
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna hate. I just think that Scotty has some questions.

2019
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: He's in that taking security guards money. He's a hater.

2020
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: That's competitiveness.

2021
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: That's being a competitor, even if it's called it's give

2022
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: me that I'm taking all that change in your pocket.

2023
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: Don't don't step out here with me. That's all I'm saying. Scotty,

2024
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: I think is more personal. I think it's like it's

2025
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: resentment there. I think it's.

2026
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Getting weird now. And you know, like I said it

2027
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: based off his his track record.

2028
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: Mike tried to help him. Don't sign that contract, bro,

2029
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 2: and he went ahead and sign it.

2030
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: That's on you. You can't be mad at Mike because

2031
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: he made.

2032
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 2: All that money and you signed that bullshit deal. He

2033
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 2: told you not to do it. So listen, man, I

2034
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: love Scotty, but Scotty got to relax.

2035
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: I get it.

2036
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 3: I get it well. He didn't talk it off his

2037
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 3: whole career, so get your shit off. Yeah, and personal

2038
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: issues at home he may want to address, you.

2039
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: Know about Scotty's personal life.

2040
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: At home, I listened to Futures music. We should probably

2041
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 3: we should probably edit that. This was fun?

2042
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: What about great? Your favorite group? So Sonic is back.

2043
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: I love what they're doing.

2044
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 2: I love the fact that they're slow walking this entire

2045
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: project and giving us one single every quarter.

2046
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: You love that.

2047
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm not mad because everybody's putting our music and you

2048
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 2: listen to an album for two weeks and you forget

2049
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: about it, and they're letting you know, nah, we're gonna

2050
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna slow walk this thing. We're gonna give you

2051
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: this album when we want to give it to you.

2052
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: Take these singles, let them live with these singles for

2053
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: three four months at a time, and we'll hit you

2054
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 2: with a new one.

2055
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 3: I typically hate really polished pop music. It kind of

2056
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 3: like makes my ears bleed a lot. I like imperfections

2057
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 3: a lot. This is perfect pop music. It's a great

2058
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 3: I can't understand why I love it so much. I

2059
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 3: should I should hate this, though, But talking about my taste,

2060
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 3: I when shit is so fucking polished, it bothers me.

2061
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: I don't know how they figured out how to have

2062
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 3: absolutely no soul at all in it and have every

2063
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: bit of soul you could find like I can't fathom

2064
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 3: it in my head. It feels warm and it's the

2065
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 3: coldest record I've ever heard. I mean, well, these are

2066
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 3: like real musicians one hundred percent, you know what I mean.

2067
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 3: These are real musicians, real artists, and they are their relationship.

2068
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 3: They have a personal relationship with each other. They've known

2069
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 3: each other for years.

2070
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: So I think you getting all of that, You're getting

2071
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: a lot of like fun, a lot of like you know.

2072
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 2: Jokes type of vibe, parody type of vibe. But then

2073
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: you get in real music, and I think they just

2074
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 2: mixing all of that in. I think this is just

2075
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 2: them letting us in on their jam sessions. Honestly, I

2076
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 2: think this is what this is.

2077
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's Anderson that does it

2078
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 3: because we've talked about it with CLB and other albums

2079
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 3: of kind of like doing the parody of yourself and

2080
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 3: parody of music, and Bruno Marris with some degree has

2081
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: made parody music that was really good, Like it feels

2082
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 3: like you're really just trying to recreate something exactly in

2083
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 3: a parody way and it sounds perfect. So I don't

2084
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 3: know if it's Anderson Pact that's pulling it there, or

2085
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 3: it's both of them, or Bruno's just so good at

2086
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 3: doing this parody style.

2087
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: I can't figure it out. I just love it. It

2088
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: just confuses me that I love it. It's it's it's

2089
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: because I'm a hater. You're not a hater. I'm not.

2090
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: I think that again.

2091
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 2: I just like the fact that they're showing you that

2092
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 2: it's possible to like you don't have to give into

2093
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 2: the new protocol of what putting a single out in

2094
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 2: the album looks like and feels like like they're not

2095
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:26,600
Speaker 2: rushing this.

2096
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: They're not.

2097
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 2: They're like, this is real music that we're not going

2098
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 2: to just give you in a microwave fashion where you

2099
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 2: just live with it for a weekend and then you're

2100
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 2: on to the next thing right after. Like they're giving

2101
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 2: us these singles this like I said that the first

2102
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 2: single came out probably top of.

2103
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 1: The year, yeah, if I'm not mistaking.

2104
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 2: So you know, it's like they're gonna they're letting us

2105
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: live with this music, like you want this song, keep

2106
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 2: playing this song. We're not giving you the whole the

2107
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 2: whole album yet, but just based off off of these singles,

2108
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: the album is gonna be incredible doubt that tour is

2109
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 2: going to be amazing. The visuals are amazing. They have

2110
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Yeah, like you already saw.

2111
01:30:58,720 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: What this is.

2112
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 2: This is, this is this is old school uh marketing,

2113
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 2: This is old school rollout, like this is not no

2114
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: new ship.

2115
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 3: And I do like that there are It does make

2116
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 3: me feel like they're actually putting time into the album

2117
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 3: rather than like let's catch this quick lick of two

2118
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 3: big artists or two big producers or something like that,

2119
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 3: let's just put some shit out real quick. So yeah,

2120
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,839
Speaker 3: I do like the strategy on that the Terrorist Martin album.

2121
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 3: I don't know if you listen to I mean, James

2122
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 3: fonsrro is all over it, so you already know I'm

2123
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 3: on board. But that Terrorist Martin album, I know everyone's

2124
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 3: on Summer this week. I know the Silk Sonic shit.

2125
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,719
Speaker 3: I know Dele put out music. That Terrorist Martin album.

2126
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 3: People gotta go pay attention to, like he went in.

2127
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 3: There's Cord's on it, Aaron Ray's.

2128
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 1: On it, y G's on it. It's a lot of people.

2129
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 1: Fonsorri is all over it. Finally, I feel like I

2130
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: go to check it out. Leon Bridges D Smoke it's

2131
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 1: it's a really, really, really good album. And shit, Actually.

2132
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 3: That day we were talking about with the not Shit

2133
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 3: and hit Boys, shit was the same day I was

2134
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 3: with Arras in that same studio. He was playing and stuff,

2135
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 3: and at that point I was like, I mean, is

2136
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 3: this shit ever gonna come out? Because he works on

2137
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 3: so many other people's ship that I don't think he's

2138
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 3: given himself that proper time, and he did on this

2139
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 3: one to like just focus on let me do my

2140
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 3: album and the.

2141
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: Ship is great, all right, I gotta check it out.

2142
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 3: There is a scissor record that didn't make it a

2143
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 3: scissor in James fond word record.

2144
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: M h.

2145
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 3: I don't know the politics behind it. Because Punch was

2146
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 3: in the studio that day too. That needs to come out.

2147
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 3: Teres Martin produced a scissor in James font to word record.

2148
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: That's incredible. I don't know if that's going to end

2149
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,640
Speaker 1: up on her album, and that's why it wasn't on his.

2150
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 1: But it's crazy.

2151
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 2: I was listening to the Ransom and Rome Streets Coop

2152
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 2: the Grace. Am I saying it right? I say de

2153
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 2: Grassi every time I look at it.

2154
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if.

2155
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 2: It's cool, the grace of Basic Cable. I didn't watch it,

2156
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 2: but they know the Ransom and Rome Streets joined. I'm

2157
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,839
Speaker 2: feeling his joint. I was listening to it this weekend.

2158
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Really good. Yeah, yeah, has been doing the thing. Yeah.

2159
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: I like that. I like the pot he's in. I

2160
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: like the zone he's in. I like the creative.

2161
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 2: Space that he's in, like consistency to Yeah, he found

2162
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 2: his stride and he's he's sticking with it and he's

2163
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 2: staying He's staying with it.

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01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: I like that. I was listening to the uh, the

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01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: Dom Kennedy project too. Yeah, this is good.

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01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 3: I would love to see like Ran Banks, Griselda Rock

2167
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 3: like to like yeah, do a full proper tour and

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01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 3: a bigger venue with all.

2169
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Of them like that.

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Speaker 3: That style that's still staying alive and has a really

2171
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 3: big core fan base. I don't understand why they don't

2172
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 3: all just get together to do a bigger tour.

2173
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if will promoters take that. Of course

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01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: you think so.

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01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 3: I mean the way ship, the way State Property locks

2176
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 3: and dips that is doing it now. I can't see

2177
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 3: why they couldn't do that too. I don't know if

2178
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 3: the egos of who would perform last would get in

2179
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 3: the way. But and the could be a real a

2180
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 3: real way like who gets who cares?

2181
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: Like that ship is just so stupid than me. But

2182
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 1: to put all our names this way on the flyer,

2183
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: they don't have to go to the list horizontal.

2184
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 2: Same font like, so nobody feels no type of way

2185
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 2: like because egos are so fragile with rappers, which is

2186
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 2: crazy to me, because yeah.

2187
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,759
Speaker 3: That whole family, you would get a way bigger venue

2188
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,839
Speaker 3: than all of them just going out by themselves.

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01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all came together, that would be dope.

2190
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: And then you get to see you know, a lot

2191
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 2: of your favorite And then I like that because a

2192
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 2: lot of these guys have records with each other, So

2193
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 2: now they get to perform these records together because they're

2194
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 2: all at the venue.

2195
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: They're all at the show together.

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01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I hate when I got a rapper that

2197
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 2: I love and you got a dope record and or

2198
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 2: a few records and it's a bunch of features and

2199
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 2: then they got to perform just their verse and it's like, yeah,

2200
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 2: the record don't hit the same Like I like homies

2201
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: verse too, you know what I'm saying. So now if

2202
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 2: y'all on tour exactly all come out on each other's

2203
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 2: set due to records, Like it just makes for a

2204
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 2: better experience, you wi.

2205
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 1: Kind of be interesting, and.

2206
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 3: Especially with them, instead of doing like a list of

2207
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 3: all right, you go first, you go second, you go third,

2208
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 3: you go headline, Like why can't it'd be two Banks

2209
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 3: records and then two Rand records stage. Then Benny comes

2210
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 3: out and does two records, Like why can't y'all just

2211
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,799
Speaker 3: keep rotating? Like that would be an ill live playlist

2212
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 3: to me if you could go through the whole thing

2213
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 3: and you never really know what.

2214
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: Song is next. Yeah, and it's not a full set, like.

2215
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 3: All y'all get together and I hate the word curate,

2216
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 3: but curate that playlist and it just comes in and

2217
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 3: out and then you come in on your verse on

2218
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 3: this ship and go back.

2219
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, could be like a really ill idea.

2220
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 2: Y'all all be on the stage anyway when the person's performing,

2221
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, kind of like Summer Jam that year when

2222
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 2: Wayne brought Nikki and Drake out and it's kind of

2223
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 2: like we're just gonna play joints, Like, yeah, do it

2224
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 2: like that?

2225
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 3: I think that would be a really ill show. Idea

2226
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 3: that would be dope, and to not do the same

2227
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 3: old structure.

2228
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: Here's my ten song.

2229
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 2: Change change the structure. Have three DJs up there, your DJ,

2230
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 2: my DJ, d DJ.

2231
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: And not even on some versus shit, just literally just

2232
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 1: just playing, playing joints, playing joints, going through like I

2233
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 1: like that. I think rapper shit. Start thinking like that.

2234
01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 3: And like, let me go to my deeper cuts the

2235
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 3: three let's do our deeper cuts right here, and then

2236
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 3: we go to our bigger record. That yeah, like that

2237
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 3: could be ill, especially with Ran Banks Griselda title that.

2238
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure, So listen if y'all do that.

2239
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: Just I mean, I just asked for at least one

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01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:14,520
Speaker 1: one ticket, maybe a plus.

2241
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 3: Give a plus one man and I could go. But

2242
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 3: is there anything else we do have to hit? I mean,

2243
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 3: we will be back in a few days.

2244
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:24,799
Speaker 1: I think that's enough for today.

2245
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 2: We're coming right back. So whatever we didn't hit, yeah,

2246
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 2: we'll hit it on the turnaround.

2247
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 3: Demeris anything good good? I see the vibes you try

2248
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 3: to give him to that. I see you got the

2249
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 3: belt out.

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01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,560
Speaker 1: Even with you all day.

2251
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say where she went this weekend, but again,

2252
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 3: I've known the Marius for a long time.

2253
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna charge of I'm not betting you no attention.

2254
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 3: All right, man, Uh, I'm always bad at any these things.

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01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: Goodbye, This was great. Yeah, have fun, be safe for

2256
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 1: the next three days. We'll be right back. Yeah that's

2257
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: all it is. And yeah, we'll talk to y'all soon.

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01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Basically says by peace, slipping my feet no Willian Mound