WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Brian Windhorst (06-23-20)

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's hour two. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>check in with Brian Wynhorst covers the NBA for the Mothership.

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<v Speaker 1>Any big name is going to sit out the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the NBA season, So we'll talk to Brian in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Darius Rucker he'll join us in the

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<v Speaker 1>final hour of the show. NASCAR drivers showing support for

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<v Speaker 1>Bubba Wallace at Tavadega yesterday. Bubba didn't win, but he won.

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball has to deal right now with the aftershocks of

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty game season. It's supposed to start July twenty fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>I was told it could be a week later. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing, and it's another thing to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned this. I keep mentioning it because I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it is more of a reality than just

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<v Speaker 1>a maybe or what if. And that is the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>season being pushed back. That might just be one week.

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<v Speaker 1>And Albert Breer, the Monday Morning quarterback, had this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there is growing concern from a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>owners right now of starting the season a week later.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep hearing my source has said, Hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, they're looking at removing the first four games

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<v Speaker 1>and putting them at the back end of the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season schedule. But that's just something that's going on right

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<v Speaker 1>now with the NFL. We always feel like, well, the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL just plows through everything. The NFL, they don't let

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<v Speaker 1>anything stand in its way. Well, this is standing in

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<v Speaker 1>its way. And I think that there is and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>careful to use the word apprehension, there is concern here,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, apprehension of can we just push this

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<v Speaker 1>forward and we start this season on time. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how they're going to have preseason games. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how it's possible they're going to have a preseason

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<v Speaker 1>game in the first week in August. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like it's full speed ahead for the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, college football. I think you're going to hear

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<v Speaker 1>more and more stories about these presidents, these chancellors, athletic

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<v Speaker 1>directors having a little bit more of a cautionary tone

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<v Speaker 1>here of trying to get this season cram it in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the NBA, with what's happening, it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a really good head start here with the bubble,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are players that aren't going to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to Brian Winhorst about them. We'll take your

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls eight seven seven three d P show Email

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<v Speaker 1>Adrastpadanpatrick dot com Twitter, hand to a DP show, Say

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<v Speaker 1>good morning to our radio and TV partners. The general

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<v Speaker 1>rule of work stoppages in sports is they seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal when they're happening, but that significance fades

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. No one really remembers which Super Bowls,

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series, or NBA Championships happened in strike shortened seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't maybe we won't remember how ridiculous these negotiations

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<v Speaker 1>were with Major League Baseball, if you want to call

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<v Speaker 1>them negotiations. Yesterday, the union shot down the owner's latest proposal,

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<v Speaker 1>and that opened the way for the commissioner to say

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<v Speaker 1>we're having a sixty game schedule based on a March agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep this in mind, the commissioner could have said we're

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<v Speaker 1>having a seventy game schedule. He could have said eighty games.

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<v Speaker 1>He said sixty, and he said sixty because he knows

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<v Speaker 1>what the bottom line is going to be, provided that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no second wave of this coronavirus coming up. In October.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to cost the owner. Here, they've done

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<v Speaker 1>the math. That's why I kept saying, this is all scripted.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes sixty games and says to his owners, this

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<v Speaker 1>is how much you're going to lose, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get to the postseason, this is how much you can make,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what you're going to pay the players

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<v Speaker 1>if you're losing somewhere close to a half million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per regular season game. This is what the owners are estimating,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's true or not. They're looking at the math.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all they did. They didn't look at this and go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, for the betterment of the country and

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<v Speaker 1>the betterment of the game aim and that's all be us.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about the bottom line. How much am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose? And how much am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>make in the postseason. That's all this came down to.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about all this rhetoric and back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>and we want this and we wanted and pro rated

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all nonsense. It was all nonsense. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>stall that was the word that was used by source

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<v Speaker 1>said they're stalling on purpose. And what they did is

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner he took the slings and arrows to save

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<v Speaker 1>millions and millions of dollars for his owners. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. They probably get him a new contract. We

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<v Speaker 1>might look at him and say, what is the commissioner

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<v Speaker 1>doing to the sport? The owners might say, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job, man Fred. It's it's a clunky

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<v Speaker 1>process for baseball. Thank you, thank you, thank you. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a missed opportunity, another missed opportunity for baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a chance to start up earlier. You could

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<v Speaker 1>have owned. Imagine if baseball was playing right now. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if baseball was starting next week, two weeks July fourth weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully this abbreviated season will work out. It'll be entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of teams will be in the playoff mix.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that makes it easier to forget

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<v Speaker 1>how frustrating the last month has been for loyal baseball fans.

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<v Speaker 1>But I certainly feel you. I do, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>we all got played in this situation, all right. Prior

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<v Speaker 1>to the end of last hour, PAULI had a hot

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<v Speaker 1>pole question there, all right, So if you could change

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<v Speaker 1>ownership of any team for the betterment of their fan base, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that this franchise has struggled on the field, on the court,

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<v Speaker 1>or public perception or getting free agents or all of

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<v Speaker 1>the above. What fan base in American sports needs new

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<v Speaker 1>ownership the most. Okay, so Nicks, Redskins. You're saying Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a while since they've gone deep into playoffs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and their ownership though he runs the NFL as he

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<v Speaker 1>running a good team, he's a good businessman, is a

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<v Speaker 1>good football owner. I mean, they've got a really nice

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<v Speaker 1>TV in the building, But did they that's a jumboldrum. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you wonder like with all those eight and ete

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<v Speaker 1>seasons that maybe if there was a different owner, if

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't the owner trying to be the owner and

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<v Speaker 1>the GM, that maybe a couple of those eight mates

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<v Speaker 1>could have been ten and sixes, and you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>should have been going a lot further in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of those years. In recent Yeah, I don't think anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>going to argue that they're never awful. Jerry the owner

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry the GM are two different people. So Cowboys, Knicks, Redskins,

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<v Speaker 1>who else is on that list? The Knicks have nine

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<v Speaker 1>postseason victories since two thousand that's by far the worst

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. Not a peer's victory. Yeah, that means

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<v Speaker 1>games that they won, Yeah, but not nine playoff appearances.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine games in the playoffs and that one year they

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<v Speaker 1>had most of them with Carmelo Anthony. Yes, mclovin. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at futility, like the Browns haven't won a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game. The Lions haven't won a playoff game. O Bills,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff and Detroit's gonna call in on that. Um Bills

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of newer, you know, they don't teams. NFL

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<v Speaker 1>teams have not had a postseason win since two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bills, Bengals, Browns, and Lions. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't look at the Bills as an eptitude. They made

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<v Speaker 1>They made four Super Bowls, and I know that might

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<v Speaker 1>seem like it's ancient history here, but that's a great

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<v Speaker 1>fan base. The new family owns at the Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've done okay, you know, they've made the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So that's Browns to me, Like, I like

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<v Speaker 1>see something about the Browns. It's one thing, like what

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<v Speaker 1>Paula say, It's one thing not to win, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>another to sort of do things. The wrong way, like

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks and the Browns. Yeah, the Knicks. It's how

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<v Speaker 1>many of these franchises do you look at the top

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<v Speaker 1>and say that's where the problem starts? You know? The

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<v Speaker 1>Ford Family. I don't. I don't know if we ever

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Ford Family and go, boy, they're dysfunctional.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys just Jerry wants to be too involved. The

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks that starts at the top, The red Skins with

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Snyder starts at the top. The Browns Jimmy Haslem

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it starts at the top. All right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the poll question. How's that? We'll go with that. A

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<v Speaker 1>couple of phone calls in here, Nick and Iowa, Hey, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have for me today? Heydp, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>taking my call first time, long time, six seven three bills?

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<v Speaker 1>All righty, hey, real quick. I was just curious. I

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<v Speaker 1>just saw a report on Yahoo that forty MLB players

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<v Speaker 1>and staff tested positive for coronavirus last week. With all

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<v Speaker 1>of that going on and this back and forth, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they even get I don't even think they

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<v Speaker 1>get a season off this year if they don't with

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<v Speaker 1>potential what you're talking about, labor, labor situation, next year

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<v Speaker 1>as a kind of curtains for the MLB. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not curtains, but you know it's really it's damaging. And

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the phone call, Nick. Yeah. I once again,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like I'm, you know, speaking into the

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<v Speaker 1>wind here when I bring these things up about all

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<v Speaker 1>these safety precautions that I don't know if Baseball is

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<v Speaker 1>able to pull this off. I really don't because nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this. We make it seem like, hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>they get the finances worked out, everything else is going

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of itself. And I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. Some information that I learn, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>baseball teams will have thirty active players on the roster

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<v Speaker 1>just in case players test positive, and then they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 1>reduce that number like twenty eight, twenty six and probably

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<v Speaker 1>settle on twenty six. But with no minor league season,

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<v Speaker 1>the teams will have about sixty players is available. Total

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<v Speaker 1>sixty players available. When players test positive, they're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>at least three days of testing. You gotta get players

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<v Speaker 1>from Latin America here three days of testing. Then they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work out for three weeks. They're gonna have training

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<v Speaker 1>camp for three weeks and then they're gonna try to

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<v Speaker 1>play here at the end of July. The players are

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<v Speaker 1>going to play the sixty games, and they get paid

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they get paid. They don't get paid anything over

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<v Speaker 1>meal money during the playoffs and the World Series. Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be happy campers. You know. We like to

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<v Speaker 1>have the player miked up during the playoffs and Joe

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<v Speaker 1>buckets to talk to them and man, this is good.

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<v Speaker 1>What do the managers do? Do the managers side with

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<v Speaker 1>the players on this and say I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>cooperate because You're not going to get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>cooperation here from these players. They're not. Uh, Kurt and Oregon, Hi, Kurt,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have for me today? Hey? Dan? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to offer up a documentary, Uh, for fans

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<v Speaker 1>out there. The NASCAR race was incredible yesterday. Um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's a Netflix doc called Uppity about Willie t

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<v Speaker 1>Ribbs and it's produced by The Dan Patrick Show host

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Corolla and um, yeah, and it's it's an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>story about this guy. And it didn't matter what vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>he was in. He just wanted to race and he

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<v Speaker 1>was the fastest at every single thing he touched, and

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't want me to give him sponsorships, people messed

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<v Speaker 1>with his motors, and uh yeah, but you know, through

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<v Speaker 1>it all, he he just went kind of uh sport

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<v Speaker 1>to sport, different different tracks and and he he did

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<v Speaker 1>it and he was really good and uh but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>never really got to love that he deserves. It's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you. And Adam Corolla loves loves him

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<v Speaker 1>some cars and he can tell the story. Was Willie

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<v Speaker 1>t Ribs the first African American to win a NASCAR race? Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, but he raced all over in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties and nineties, two thousands. He's sixty five years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an IndyCar, Champ car all over get like

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<v Speaker 1>he said, he went a different bounce round from different series,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was pretty well known. Mike and Michigan joins

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<v Speaker 1>us him. Mike, what do you have for me today?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Mike five six one sixty and I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to make the argument for the Fords. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it's hard to dislike the Fords because there

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<v Speaker 1>they are nice people. However, they're also pretty indifferent people.

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<v Speaker 1>They like because we have a loyal fan base they're

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<v Speaker 1>content with fans in the stands and that's it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Matt Millen. We had him for eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>His best record as a GM seven and nine. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions love my Lions. But man, it is hard

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<v Speaker 1>because I just feel like our owners do not care.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks all right, Well thank you Mike. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if if you know that you're making a profit,

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<v Speaker 1>how much profit you're making, what is you know? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's do you have ego or you are you competitive?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you just say, look, we can kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>put a team out there and we know we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make money in the NFL. And it sometimes feels

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<v Speaker 1>that way, but then you get other owners who get

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<v Speaker 1>too involved, and that's usually to the detriment, Like your

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<v Speaker 1>genius is not making football moves. Your genius was another

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<v Speaker 1>business that allowed you to buy a football team, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is what is lost on these owners, some of

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<v Speaker 1>these owners who get so involved. I always look at

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's owners who just stay out of the

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<v Speaker 1>business decisions. Now they may have the final word, but

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<v Speaker 1>when the owner goes and this happened with the Cleveland Browns,

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<v Speaker 1>when he is saying I want to take Johnny Manziel

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<v Speaker 1>and they could have taken Derek Carr. Now you can say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Carr is not great. Derek Carr is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>upgrade over Johnny Manziel. And somebody who worked in the

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<v Speaker 1>organization said, at the time they were taking I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was told, we're taking Derek Carr if he's if

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Carr's there, were taking him. They passed on him

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<v Speaker 1>twice and Cleveland would have been better off with Derek Carr.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they'd be better off with Derek Carr than Baker

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<v Speaker 1>Mayfield probably right now. But that ownership, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>may luck into something here and it would be lucking

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<v Speaker 1>into something. But yeah, it starts at the top. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to look. You know, when you look at a

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<v Speaker 1>team and you go that that own you start with

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<v Speaker 1>the owner. It's hard to go, you know, we're really

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<v Speaker 1>successful and we have a terrible owner. Like how many

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<v Speaker 1>teams do you look at and you go, they're great,

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<v Speaker 1>but their owner is not good. It's it starts there.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at this success, look at the Rooney's even back

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<v Speaker 1>when you know the Cowboys were good, you know, under

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<v Speaker 1>a different regime. You know, Jerry, I think when Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>first started, he let Jimmy do it, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think Jerry wanted more credit and therefore he got rid

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<v Speaker 1>of Jimmy Johnson. And they haven't been the same because

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy is a football guy. He came up with the whole,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, draft strategy of trading draft picks. He came

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<v Speaker 1>up with that table adding value to each draft pick.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the forty nine Ers with Eddie de Bartelow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the Steelers with a Rooney family. If you look,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even know who the owner of the Spurs is,

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<v Speaker 1>right that RC Buford will come up. He's the GM ownership.

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<v Speaker 1>Lets people do their job. And I've I've been very

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate because you know, when I had bosses before I

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<v Speaker 1>went out on my own recently, those bosses knew. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell me how to do radio or TV. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell me what to ask in a question. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell me they run the business side of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I run this side of it. I'm the talent involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this, for the lack of a better description, and

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<v Speaker 1>I always appreciated that let me do my job, you

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<v Speaker 1>do your job, and then I'll meet you later and

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<v Speaker 1>we can celebrate but you know, ownership that's tricky because

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<v Speaker 1>they all think you can't tell a billionaire no, or

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what you're doing. Yeah. Point, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we found something that the Knicks are going to win.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that run with this question. I'll bet they

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be at sixty percent. Yeah, ask me clean. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>but the guys who move the teams, that's a different

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<v Speaker 1>level of hate. Like they hate for Art Modell, the

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<v Speaker 1>Ursay's Stan Crocky. I've heard seen things like people hate

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<v Speaker 1>them when they the old town. Well, I understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I'm a Rams fan, a Saint Louis fan,

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<v Speaker 1>I would despise Stan Cronky. You know when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you build something for somebody and then they go, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I need something better now. Business wise, he

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<v Speaker 1>made an incredible business decision to be able to relocate

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles and to have that multi billion dollars stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just there's collateral damage, and the fans are always

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<v Speaker 1>collateral damage. You're finding that out in baseball right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Fans are collateral damage. We're gonna take a break. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Windhorse kind enough to join us, We'll talk to him

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<v Speaker 1>or as PAULI likes to say brain windhorse is all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you spelled it. You put brain Windhorst art correct, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm compiment him. He seems like a very bright

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<v Speaker 1>fellow brain. He might like that brain Windhorst. He'll join

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<v Speaker 1>return here closely, and Brian joins us, are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to the bubble? Brian, I don't think so. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I have to say don't think is because they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't announced the media rules yet. Not that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big priority, but UM, we don't know. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the what the law of the land is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. We have to hear about it. What are

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<v Speaker 1>your what's Do you have a like a singular biggest

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<v Speaker 1>concern here going into this and what they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pull off? Yeah, I have two. One is that and

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<v Speaker 1>and my guess it would be a star player, but

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<v Speaker 1>it could be anybody. Is that somebody comes down with

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<v Speaker 1>the virus and the players just lose confidence in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire thing, and whether there's an outbreak or not, they

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<v Speaker 1>say I don't want to do this anymore and they defect. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The other concern I have is of a genuine outbreak

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, there's a lag time. As much as

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA is doing here and they are doing everything,

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<v Speaker 1>just about everything that we know to do. Um, is

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<v Speaker 1>that there there, they miss it, somebody gets sick and

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<v Speaker 1>infects five or six other people, and it's an outbreak

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where not only do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>shut it down, but it becomes unclear whether you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to restart it again anytime in the the near future.

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<v Speaker 1>That I think would be a whisk. It's name. How

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<v Speaker 1>many name players have you heard from off the record

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<v Speaker 1>that might not go? I guess it depends on your

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<v Speaker 1>definition the word name players. From my read on, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is ready to go. Whether they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go in in a month when this actually

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<v Speaker 1>starts a different question. You know, yesterday the Toronto Raptors

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<v Speaker 1>left to go to Florida to begin this because of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, issues with Canada the US border crossings. They

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<v Speaker 1>had to leave early. And if they make it back

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<v Speaker 1>to the finals, that's a long shot. But if they

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<v Speaker 1>make it back to the finals, Dan, they wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>back home until October. October, that means they left yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a possibility they would not be back until the fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain what the deadline means tomorrow, So the players have

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<v Speaker 1>until tomorrow to raise their hands and say I'm not going.

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<v Speaker 1>But that I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna be clue.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest. The NBA is changing the rules

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. It's not like we have a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>year history of this playbook working. If somebody says they

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<v Speaker 1>decide they don't want to play in three weeks, do

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<v Speaker 1>I think the NBA is going to like put them

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<v Speaker 1>in shackles and twurce them into into an airplane. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not. But the reason that they have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the teams now is that for the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>starting in noon today, a transaction window opens that you

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<v Speaker 1>can sign replacement players. And if you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to replace a player who's either injured or who's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doesn't want to go, or have something open

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<v Speaker 1>to other concerns, you have to do it within the

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<v Speaker 1>next seven days. So that's why this window opens by

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<v Speaker 1>today's deadline. Yeah, I'm just I'm curious about the raws

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<v Speaker 1>size here too, Brian. We're seeing with Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to have to expand the rosters, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case or when it happens at somebody test positive.

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<v Speaker 1>How much of a talent pool will these NBA teams

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<v Speaker 1>have to draw from not much. You know, most NBA

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<v Speaker 1>teams have two minor league players. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>having options on a baseball contract. You can call the

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<v Speaker 1>guys up a certain amount of times, so they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have those two guys. There's a there's a few

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<v Speaker 1>guys kicking around out there who are free agents who

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<v Speaker 1>may be decent additions, but you know, you lose a

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<v Speaker 1>starting line player, you're not going to replace them with

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<v Speaker 1>the starting line player. You're going to replace them with

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<v Speaker 1>a warm body. And I think one of the concerns

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<v Speaker 1>here is, remember they're going to place three weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>these regular season games before the playoffs start. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>in ninth or tenth place and you lose is the

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<v Speaker 1>first two or three games and you're out of it

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<v Speaker 1>and you're still faced with being in that bubble for

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<v Speaker 1>another two weeks, are you just gonna say forget this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going home. And because the NBA is not stopping

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<v Speaker 1>anybody from leaving now, if you leave, want to come back, now,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a problem. But if you leave, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say stop. And so that's a bit of a concern.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens to that group of players in the office

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<v Speaker 1>because you are going to be committed to being there

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<v Speaker 1>for five or six weeks. There's two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>or three weeks of training camp, then these eight games

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of two and a half three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You may be tired of being there. If you're in

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<v Speaker 1>ninth place, they have no chance of advancing. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing a good job addressing this up, Brian. Sorry, you

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<v Speaker 1>got a sneaky team. So the team that has underperformed

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<v Speaker 1>all year long has been the Philly seventy six ers.

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<v Speaker 1>And nobody can figure out why they would be twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine and two at home, because I'm gonna tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>To be twenty nine and two at home, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a damn good team. And you look at

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<v Speaker 1>their roster and you know that their talent doesn't exact

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>they fit together, but there's some really good players there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like below fight. They were like thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen on the road and twenty nine and two

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<v Speaker 1>at home. Okay, Well, the guess what, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to play They don't get to play home games anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a disadvantage. But that is a good team. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they could align together and hit their you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hit some sort of stride. They could really be dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I want to see is what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell happened to Nikola yokicha somewhere. My guess is forty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty pounds. When I saw him last year, I

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<v Speaker 1>was over in China for the World Cup. He was

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<v Speaker 1>playing on the Serbian team. He was not interested at

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<v Speaker 1>all in that in being in condition. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>from last summer, I would guess he's down sixty to

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<v Speaker 1>seventy pounds. I have no idea what he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>look like. That's a huge she questioned Mark to me, yeah,

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 1>but Marcus Saul looks like he's on the same diet.

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Saw has been losing weight steadily over the last

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<v Speaker 1>five years. And Marcus Saul is not the number one

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 1>player on a team that's you know, on that team.

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<v Speaker 1>Nikola Yoki is a first team All NBA player who

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<v Speaker 1>just lost forty pounds and three months. Will that make

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>him an MVP candidate or will that make him something else?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's one of the most fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>things I want to see. I want I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>watching the Nuggets scrimmage games that they're gonna have in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks, maybe you could you write up

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a story on the joke diet we find out what

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 1>that workout regiment is, because I could probably institute that

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>here on my show. I've got it here. He hasn't

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>given an interview yet. Not only that, though, I'm gonna

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you he was just photographed last week hanging out

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>with the Joker Nova Joker over in Serbia. Well joking,

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Mitch has got coronavirus. Now today, Dan, today all the

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>players are being tested. Okay, Now, now Yokis would have

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>just come back in the country and you know would

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>have would before he and be hundred some odd guys

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 1>are being tested by today. Now, last week we saw

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. They said they tested two hundred people. I'll

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>take them at their word. At eleven tested positive. I

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>did not go to Harvard, but I think that's five percent.

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>If you have three hundred NBA players testing, and let's

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>just say it's roughly the same rate, around five percent,

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have you know, fifteen to twenty a number

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>who are test positive. And here's something that the NBA

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>has not articulated very well. If I was a schedual

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>guy would say it's on purpose, But I can't say

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 1>that if you test positive under their rules fourteen days

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>no exercise, not fourteen days isolation, fourteen days in your bed,

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and then you've got to test negative twice in twenty

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>four hours. And so the question I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 1>is if a bunch of guys here today test positive

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>we're asymptomatic, and are asymptomatic in a week, that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to become an issue. They're gonna be like like, hey, let

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>me get down the court, and they're like, no, fourteen days, sir.

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And so that's going to be interesting. And you know, well, well,

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>teams haven't announced the players who have tested positive in

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the past for hipper reason, it's going to become pretty apparent.

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 1>If you don't see your team's backup shooting guard for

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>ten days, you're going to know that he's come down

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 1>with it. So I don't know how that's all going

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>to work. When you understand that some of these guys

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>are going to say I don't feel sick, it's going

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>to be an issue. He's Brian Wynhorst, ESPN, Senior NBA writer.

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>The Lakers reportedly working out at a billionaire's Holt. What

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>do we know about this story here, Brian. I've been there.

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>This guy Steve Jackson, he I think he sold the

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>company a long time him ago that he founded La Gear.

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>You remember lay Shack had La Gear deal. He built

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 1>a gym on his property in bel Air and he

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>made a replica of the Staples Center. The court is

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>the exact same court, except instead of saying Staples Center

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>in the same stenciling, it says Jackson Center. He's got

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 1>photos all over the walls of teams that have come

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>there and players that have come there throughout the years

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and worked out. It's in a gaming community. When I

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>went there, I had to go through the gate and

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>he comes out and hangs out with the players as

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>they did. There's been commercial film there over the years.

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Teams have used that to shoot around. It's basically been

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>a sort of a secret underground NBA hub, and you know,

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's been available to many players. And that's

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the thing. One of the reasons why these NBA players

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>were not coming to work out of team facilities because

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>they had to follow all of these rules that the

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>NBA put down, Whereas if they go to another place

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a run that they can get a private gym, they

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>can do whatever they feel it's necessary to keep themselves safe.

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And so that's why I think today's testing. But you

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>know it, they'll take a few days for it to

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>come back. Who knows when they'll actually announce it if

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>they have a will. That's why I think today's test

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>is going to be very interesting. We're gonna have guys

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>who don't think they're sick or feel fine end up

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>coming up positive. One other item has to do with Nicks,

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>so it's not a playoff team, but it does have

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to do with the Bucks. Jason Kidd given permission by

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers to interview for the Knicks job, and then

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you know the possibility of bringing in the Greek freak.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>What do you make of this with Jay Kidd and

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks. Well, look, the Knicks have a long way

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to go before they could even think about getting any

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>free agents. And you know, Yannis has the opportunity this

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>summer to extend for you know, we'll see how it

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>happens with the salary cap, but for more than two

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred millions. But I will say that I think Jason

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Kidd and Jim Dolan have a really good relationship, and

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Jason has been interested in going back there. Remember he

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>played there one year at the end of his career

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and was a transformational figure. So I still think it's

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Tom Tibodeau's job, but I think the Knicks could do

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot to help themselves with free agents, that is,

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>outside of some coach they have a connection to. They

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>have done a horrible job for the last ten years

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>on this. Their decisions, specifically Jim Dolan's decisions in the

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>last month to six weeks have been very damaging. If

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>anybody thinks that they're going to fix that by just

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>hiring a coach who happens to no a star player,

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit easy. Can the commission so the

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<v Speaker 1>commissioner have any power over that franchise? Bryan, He's tried.

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>He's tried. He's gone to people in the franchise. I mean,

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he made would ever admit to this,

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>but because it's you know, it's not sort of deemed stare,

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>but he has gone to people in the franchise and said,

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>what can the NBA do to help the Knicks? And

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the thing about Jim Dolan, you know, the more people

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I talked to have worked for Jim Dolan. A lot

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>of them really like him. But Jim Dolan has a

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>blind spot and that he's got horrible judgment and he's

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>over the years hired people to help him with that judgment,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't listen to him. And so you can't

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>help a guy who won't help himself. David Stern tried.

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>David Stern got him to hire Donnie Walsh. David Stern

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>tried to get to hire other people and make moves.

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Adam Silver has tried. You can't force the guy into

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>making good decisions. You can only help him. He won't

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>accept the help. You have. Somebody hire advisors to help you,

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and then you don't listen to the advisors that you're

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's crazy. Didn't didn't David Stern help the

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Knicks once where he fixed the lottery so they could

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>get Patrick Ewing. I mean, that's what we need to do.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm joking. I'm joking. He's up in been yelling

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>at me right now. Let me tell you something. I

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened back then, but I can tell

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you last year, when the Lakers and Nicks were in

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the lottery the same final four to get jah at

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Zion and they ended up three and four, and New

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Orleans and Memphis ended up one and two. All lottery

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy died that night. I'm gonna tell you right now, yes,

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and I oh boy, if you ever wanted to get

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Commissioner's stern going, who do not bring up that lottery

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>was fixed with Patrick Ewing. That was good time for him. Hey, Brian,

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>good luck with everything. A great job. We appreciate your

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>time and thanks for joining us. Thanks Dan having a

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>good day. That's Brian Windhorst, ESPN, Senior NBA writer. He

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't paint a real positive picture there, but he painted

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a realistic picture. And that's what we need to hear.

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You need to hear a realistic picture because there will

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>be some potholes here. They're going to be some speed bunk,

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>there will be roadblocks here, They're going to be issues.

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>This is not going to be smooth for any of

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>these sports. And you could have a star player, imagine

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>a star player. Now you might say, well, they're quarantine,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>so who are they going to come in contact with.

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully nobody. Hopefully everybody gets tested and then if somebody

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>test positive, they get quarantine. And then everybody stays on

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>campus and nothing happens. But imagine if a team wins

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>a series because a player tested positive, or a couple

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of players tested positive, or a forfeit. I mean, I

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>know it sounds crazy, but this is crazy. If I

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>would have told you back in March, get ready, you

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>would have said, I have a friend who works for

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the FBI, and he's the one that told me, hey,

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>things might get back to normal in June, and he

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>works in New York City. He said, we're preparing for

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the word first subway shut down, like he told me.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>All of these things, hospitals overrun, things that he told

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>me happened, and he said, we hope to get back

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>to normal in June. Paulie just sent me this picture

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>of the Joker with Djokovic. Oh my god, this is

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>one week ago and they're hugging each other. Oh boy,

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and Djokovic just tested positive for the coronavirus. All right,

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a break here. That was good, good appearance

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>by Brian Winhorse. A lot of information there, But yeah,

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I would not be hiring Jason Kidd if I thought

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna If it's based off getting the Greek freak,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I would hire Jason Kidd because maybe he'll have a

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>style and he's gonna get some free agents. If you

0:34:53.840 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>don't get free agents, then this is futile. They don't

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>get any free agents. Nobody wants to go there. But

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>if I get a coach who has his style that's fun,

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 1>that is exciting, then maybe that's different. But right now,

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>hiring Jason Kidd because you think you're gonna get the

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Greek freak like that, doesn't that sound just like the Knicks? Hey,

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>why did you hire him? Well, at the time, we

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>thought we were getting a Greek freak. M Okay, Yeah,

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that didn't go well. Yeah, yeah, but we tried. Yeah.

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>You go back a couple of years ago when they

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.240
<v Speaker 1>brought in David Fisdale after he was bounced from Memphis.

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Everyone lauded the next thing, Hey, this is the right guy,

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a player's coach, this is the way to get

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>free agents. There, good point, but the problem was Dolan

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>was still there. They couldn't overcome their owner. When Durant says,

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not the Knicks aren't cool and and you're you're

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>not relevant with these players, you know that's the sad

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>part of this. We'll take a break. I'm back after

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.759
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0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.279
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0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.080
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0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.960
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0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show. All righty, we have it's not controversy, but

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>it could be. We had the big match between Mario

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and Tyler the moderator and a shower shame. That was

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>last Friday. Mario lost. They played nine holes and there

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>was a moment where Mario was in the fescue and

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>he took a couple of swings but he missed the ball.

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>But he said he was practicing, and I think once

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you would dress the ball, hello ball and you swing.

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>That's a stroke. But Paulie going back and looking at

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the tape one to know if that was true. Mario

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>lost by I think three strokes. Now he's saying that

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't count. I don't know if it did count.

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I just know he was in there and the fescue

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>was up to his knees and he whiffed a couple

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>of times. Yes, Pully. I check with a couple of

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>golf people and a few golf websites, and they said,

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.720
<v Speaker 1>once you are done, practice swinging and addressed the ball,

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's a judgement call. And you appear to be

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>swinging to hit the ball. If you whiff, that counts

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>as a stroke. If the ball falls off the tee,

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>then that's a different story. But if you address the

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>ball and you just don't make contact with it, that's

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 1>a stroke. Yeah, I mean to me, it was. There

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>was no controversy. In fact, I think Mario didn't count

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>some strokes he should have lost by more than that.

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.240
<v Speaker 1>But then Mario pointed out that Tyler, the moderator whiffed

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>on one of his swings as well. It was ugly.

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And I know that the Tyler and Seaton Dylan who

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>does graphics, and Mario are gonna maybe go play tomorrow.

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And then they said do you want to go? And

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I go, good God, no, No, I couldn't witness that again. Yeah,

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not busy, I don't have anything going on.

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I just I can't watch that again. Like I want

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to golf with golfers, not these guys. But I thought

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>It was a stroke of genius puntended on my part

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to put Tyler, the moderator and Mario in the cart together,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was some real tension there they it got bad.

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So Mario is in the middle of a part par

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<v Speaker 1>five and we had talked about maybe do we cap

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<v Speaker 1>the score to double bogey and I thought no, it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be more entertaining if they put up like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a snowman or you know, maybe double digits like that

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<v Speaker 1>would be good and it would keep everybody, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix they're trying to win. And that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mario is on a par five. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>lying nine in the fairway and he says, are we

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<v Speaker 1>are we capping our scores? And I go, well, the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is no, and you can't ask me in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a hole. Then you have a nine already.

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And then he put up a twelve. When he put

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<v Speaker 1>up a Brady, I went, wow, this is good because

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<v Speaker 1>if he would have had a seven, then that's different

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<v Speaker 1>because he put up a twelve and I think a ten. Yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen worst golf etiquette on a golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, people were parking their carts in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the path of a person. While I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to chip, people were walking over each other's lines.

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<v Speaker 1>People were not away and they were hitting well. Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>picked up his ball because he thought it was a

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<v Speaker 1>gimme yeah, like three feet away. And then Mario did

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<v Speaker 1>it and Tyler goes no, no, no no, and he said, wait,

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you did it on a previous hole. And then Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>goes hey, and I said, well, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's a rematch, I would like to hire a

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<v Speaker 1>rules official. All that rules official would quit. Oh, but

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 1>he would. I think that person would enjoy themselves. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Bubba Wallace will join us on the program tomorrow at

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<v Speaker 1>first hour, nine twenty five. Yeah, setn con Why are

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<v Speaker 1>you not allowed to ground your club in the bunker

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<v Speaker 1>before you hit to give you an advantage? I guess

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<v Speaker 1>like you normally have the club grounded when you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hit a shot from the fairway, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a comfort level. There's uh, I don't. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>bother me when I get in the bunk. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in the bunker a lot. I become a

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<v Speaker 1>really good bunker player. It's because I'm in the bunker.

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<v Speaker 1>People get in there and they don't like you're it's

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable for you. But I think just because you ground it,

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you can put the club right behind the ball and

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it feels like you're going to hit it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's the answer. Yeah, Paul, there really isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a why. They just say it's a rule. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up a couple of places they really do it. They

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<v Speaker 1>said it's a hazard the bunker, so you can't ground

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<v Speaker 1>your club to test the condition of the said hazard.

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<v Speaker 1>Said hazard? Who right? Who talks know where to now here? Too? Four? Yes? McLevin, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so bad at all this. They asked me to

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<v Speaker 1>play Dan they did, Yeah, Tyler and Mario like, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you come out with us? Because can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if he's getting a twelve, what would I get? I'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to cap your score. Yeah, I'd have to cap

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<v Speaker 1>your score. But there was a moment where both of

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<v Speaker 1>these knuckleheads are in the fescue and they didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know what fescue was, and maybe it's not even fescue.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love saying it. But they spent so much

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<v Speaker 1>time in the fescue, and then they're both swinging and whiffing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd laughed, I blurted out, you know, some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of laughter. But I don't want to see that ever again. Never.

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Rucker will join us. More of your phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>coming up as well. Two hours in the books, one

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<v Speaker 1>more to go.