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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and podcast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my little pe nuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass.

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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Me Lance Bass. Um, I

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Speaker 1: have a wonderful co host. Okay, it's only episode two.

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Speaker 1: This is supposed to be uh, my husband and I show. Um,

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Speaker 1: but if you listen to the first episode with Mr

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Speaker 1: stuck in Miami because of you know, airline stupidity. Um,

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Speaker 1: and then I got to come out because I had

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Speaker 1: to get back to work here. Um, they're still stuck

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Speaker 1: in Miami. A week later, still stuck in Miami. Um.

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Speaker 1: They should be taken off, I think. But it's been crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm you know, you're that's really your first

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Speaker 1: I'm you're actually your first husband. So yeah, so this

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Speaker 1: is why I'm taking this. You're my work husband. I'm

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Speaker 1: your work husband. You work with none of the benefits,

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Speaker 1: none note at all. Joey for tell By the way,

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Speaker 1: if people never knew who it was you man doubt

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Speaker 1: here fucking Joey for talking doubt. You can curse in

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Speaker 1: my heart, I think so you can write it's podcast.

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Speaker 1: You gotta put one of those little ease on it,

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Speaker 1: all right, get excited. I think people actually listen to

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Speaker 1: you more if you curse, because you sound like you.

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Speaker 1: You sound like, oh, he's so edgy. They're so edgy

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Speaker 1: now from boy band like you know. So yeah, so

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Speaker 1: how's that going the any way? By the way, so

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Speaker 1: Michael stuck. Well, it sucks. Hopefully they'll get home today.

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Speaker 1: They were supposed to get back Monday. But as they're

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Speaker 1: going to the airport, oh my gosh, because his mom

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Speaker 1: we need a good four hands with twins, um just

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Speaker 1: got COVID. Oh nice, yeah. Then uh, Daddy Turching got covid. Um.

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Speaker 1: Then Michael got sick. Then his sister got sick. So

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Speaker 1: everyone's had COVID. And now I'm thinking I might have

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Speaker 1: been the super spreader. That's your fault. I didn't I've

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Speaker 1: been hanging around with you. Didn't get sick, No, because

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Speaker 1: So I told Mama Turchin, I'm like, this could be COVID.

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Speaker 1: Stay away. I did my test. It was negative. I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: covide all in the house. But the kids never got it. Crazy,

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Speaker 1: they've been around COVID so many times and the holy

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Speaker 1: they'll probably never get it. Then Immune, My kids are

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Speaker 1: just Superman women, Superman and women. Okay, let's get to

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Speaker 1: the real fun stuff on the show today. I am

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Speaker 1: super excited our very second guest, Now we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: a secret um, well not so secret boy band society. Um.

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Speaker 1: Of course I remember number one that to j c.

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Speaker 1: Ches A is and our number three, Joe, you can

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Speaker 1: be number four. And now our number five secret society

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Speaker 1: boy band member is on with us now. Jonathan Knight

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Speaker 1: born in Massachusetts, nineteen sixty grew up in Dorchester area

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Speaker 1: of Boston with his five brothers and sisters. Ester, I

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Speaker 1: to fame in the late eighties with a group of

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Speaker 1: course new kids on the Block from the eighties and

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Speaker 1: nineties in KOTB played around the world, sold out concerts,

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Speaker 1: crazy millions and millions and millions of albums sold. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember, Joey when we were recording at Fight Rends,

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Speaker 1: inspiration for us all of course, Mr Jonathan, thank you guys. Wow,

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Speaker 1: this is amazing here we are all these years later. Right. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what's so funny as as as a land

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Speaker 1: meaning like it's it's amazing for me to to obviously

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, New York, going I want to be these guys.

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Speaker 1: eyes with binoculars, but it was amazing. How does it feel, Lance,

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Speaker 1: How does it feel? I see, I understand you feel

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Speaker 1: now you get it. But let's take it back John. Um,

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Speaker 1: So when you guys got together, what year did you did?

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Speaker 1: but we just got totally sidetracked. Joey, what were you saying? Oh? Good? No,

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Speaker 1: You guys before year. I mean, I was young as hell,

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Speaker 1: anxiety is it's great. You know. I love that we're

427
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: back together with the new kids. Would have never thought

428
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: that we'd get back together. Um, you know, and and

429
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: and just even that whole process of us getting back

430
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: together and you know, talking to the guys and for

431
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: them to say like, yeah, we knew you were gay

432
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: and it's okay, and you know, we can we can

433
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: work on this. I mean because even when when we

434
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: got back together, I still wasn't out publicly, but not out.

435
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever really were. It just slowly

436
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: just became a well, wasn't it. I don't know. That's

437
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: the way I felt about it. Wasn't it, Tiffany though?

438
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: That totally out of you for the first time on

439
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: what would happen? Not true? Not true. It was a

440
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: boyfriend of mine that sold pictures of us to the

441
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: National Enquiry. Ran somebody else out. Well you came out

442
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: though because of him? Well yeah, I mean when they

443
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: saw us together like a huge gay activist. Yeah, you

444
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: kind of you can assume. And that's right. Yeah, that's

445
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: what I was dating when I came out. I was

446
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: there time. It's funny that you know the whole coming

447
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: out things because I was like I didn't want to,

448
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, I was just living my life. I'm like,

449
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: everybody doesn't have to. You know, my brothers and sister

450
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: didn't say hey, mom and dad were straight, you know, right,

451
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: you didn't have to announce it. It just it wasn't.

452
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't something I was hiding. I mean, I was

453
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: like Harley was you know, we'd be kissing in public

454
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: and you know it wasn't. It was just it was

455
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: us um, you know. And then it was like, no,

456
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: you have to make a statement. You have to you know,

457
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 1: you have to publicly just clear the air. And uh,

458
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, the whole process was was horrible because I

459
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: looked at what you did, Lance, and I think actually

460
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: thinking my coming out thing. Uh statement, I was like,

461
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know I had to be on the cover

462
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: of a magazine because you were on the cover of

463
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: the magazine. And I'm just like, you know, this is

464
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: it's it's it's even even the way people come out

465
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: nowadays is has changed. You know, people will be doing

466
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: an award show and just be like I'd like to

467
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: thank my husband blah blah blah, and nobody. So it's

468
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: so great that we've gotten to that point, you know,

469
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: I again with the same path where when I was,

470
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: you know, dating King, and I was very I mean,

471
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: we've been together for two years. I've already had two

472
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: boyfriends before that, so I was very comfortable. Me Joey knew,

473
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: the guys, knew, my friends knew, my family knew, and

474
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: I thought, like, obviously, no one cares, because no one's

475
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: ever so I was just living my life. That's when

476
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: I went to Pete Town and uh, I didn't know

477
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: that it was such a very gay friendly town. You

478
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: don't know about Pezze Town. I don't even know about

479
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: Pezze Town. I was a new b Gay doesn't matter.

480
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gay about down. So I was like, yeah,

481
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: I was in line to the bathroom and I just

482
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: happened to be talking to a reporter and he's like,

483
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: are you gay. I'm like yeah. It was the first

484
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: time I ever like said that to a stranger. And

485
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: I was so calm, like no one cares. And then

486
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: of course they cared. And I thought it was ridiculous

487
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: that they would put me on the cover of People

488
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: magazine because even my niece and nephew at the time,

489
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: they were real little and this is what made me

490
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: so happy. I remember that magazine came out and they

491
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: just looked at my my sister and was like why

492
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: why is this news? Like what is this? And it

493
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: made me so happy to know that, Like wow, that

494
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: generation just doesn't care, like it's just people to them. Uh.

495
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: And I think that might have been the last time

496
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: someone was on a cover for coming out. For God's sake,

497
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: thank God, A long way come, A long way used

498
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: to be like gender reveals. Now you know, it's just

499
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: it's a it's accepted, it's it's okay. People. We love

500
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: no matter what, love is love. Love is love. And

501
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: we still gotta keep teaching that story though, because there's

502
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: people at but I just don't get it. Mind your business.

503
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: Let's be real. Mind you, they ain't doing nothing wrong,

504
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 1: Nobody doing anything wrong with you. Mind your business. If

505
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: there's something that you're not doing that it's not harming

506
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: anybody else, Get the funk out of here. It should

507
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: be that easy, but it's not. There's just a lot

508
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: of you know, yeah, of course. Um, speaking of the

509
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: gay community, you and I have discussed before how great

510
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: it is that our community is really embracing the parenting

511
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: thing right now because a lot of us of a

512
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: certain age h kind of grew up thinking we could

513
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: never have a family, We're not supposed to have a

514
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: family or told that. Um. And then the last i'd say,

515
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: five six, seven years, so many couples not only are

516
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: just getting area because we're allowed to get married now, um,

517
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: but now we're able to have our own babies, were

518
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: able to adopt in most places now. Um. And I

519
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: just think it's I don't know, for me growing up

520
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: in that family unit, it gives me that little normalcy

521
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: that I always was craving for. Um. But I also

522
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: love that the community is doing it their own way.

523
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: All my friends that are having kids right now, I

524
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: just I love how they're parenting because they're just they

525
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: have their kids be exposed to everything because growing up

526
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: in a small town, I didn't know what was going

527
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: on in the world. Uh you know, I didn't know

528
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: what was going outside my little town. Yeah, And so

529
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: I want my kids to be exposed to every religion,

530
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: every race, every stupid person, every smart person. Like I

531
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: just I need that to happen. And I think, you know,

532
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: being in this community, you want that for your kids

533
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: because I learned so much just by being gay. I know,

534
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: I became way more open minded just because of you know,

535
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: of being gay. Um. So do you think you and

536
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: Harley will ever go down that road? Um? You know.

537
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: I want to congratulate you and Michael for having kids.

538
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: And it's it's funny that, um, you know, I would

539
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: say ninety five percent of our gay friends now have

540
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: have kids. Uh you know. And it's funny because when

541
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: when Ricky Martin first had his twins and I was like,

542
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't out, but there was rumors that

543
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: he was gay, and I was like, wait a minute,

544
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: if he's gay, how is he having these kids? Um?

545
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: You know. And then it was just talking after that,

546
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: talking to all our gay friends about yeah, well you

547
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: can go to an agency and you can get a

548
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: surrogate and you can have eggs donated and all that stuff,

549
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's it's it was like, Okay,

550
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: this this all makes sense. Um. It was. It was

551
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: a bit weird in the early years. It was kind

552
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: of like, you know, how this is like so scientifically

553
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say not right, but not um you kind

554
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: of like you're playing god a little bit. Yeah, yeah, Um,

555
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean it's it's a great it's a

556
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: great thing. Um, you know, now you're gonna get me going. Um.

557
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: You know, we tried and um, you know, we went

558
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: through the journey for about five years and uh, it

559
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: just didn't happen for us. And uh, you know, going

560
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: through the process and it's like, you know, today's today,

561
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: the eggs are being implanted and you you're so excited,

562
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: you're so happy, and then you know a week later

563
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: it's like, no, you're you're back to square one. And meanwhile,

564
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: you know you're having two wins. And you know, our

565
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: other friends having kids, no one understands that emotional journey

566
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: because you know, it took us almost five years to

567
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: have our kids. And um, I don't know how many

568
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: times you were able to get pregnant, but we were pregnant,

569
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: you know a few years ago with twins um and

570
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: lost one at three weeks, one at six weeks. Um,

571
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: we were on our I mean we went through ten

572
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: different donors. We weren't pregnant ten times. But you know

573
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: when you when you pick a donor, the emotions that

574
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: go through that you know, you're you're looking at your dude,

575
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: You're you're having the baby, and you're having kids in

576
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: their face like you're like already planning their future with

577
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: this donor. So every time one would not work, it's

578
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: just like it's so depressing. You're like, God, I gotta

579
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: start over again. Um, and if this didn't happen this

580
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: last time, I don't think we would have gone for

581
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: it again. I did. I did. That was the universe saying,

582
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: you know what, you're not supposed to have kids. That's

583
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: what I got, Like, I can say that about you.

584
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if you should have kids, but you

585
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: know you're meant to have what you're meant to have.

586
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: Just the process. It's like me and Harley well alwould

587
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: say thank god we didn't meet during the dating apps,

588
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: like they weren't around when he got it right. You're

589
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: you're looking at you know, these women's pro files and

590
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: it says the age, their nationality, their medical history, you

591
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: never met them, and you just, you know, could this

592
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: be the mother of my child? It's like it's it's

593
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: really it's it's really weird, but at the time, it's

594
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: it's such a blessing that you know, we're at that

595
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: point where we have this incredible you know, incredible resources,

596
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: this this incredible medical I don't know what's good wonder.

597
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, I hope in our lifetime because you know,

598
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: I VF mainly, you know, straight people use IVF more

599
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: than gay people. UM. And I just hope in our

600
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: lifetime that that process will be so affordable for everyone

601
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: because just too, it's when you go through IVF and

602
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: all that, to be able to weed out so many

603
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: diseases that you know your kid could possibly have, and

604
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: all the just different genetic matches that you might have

605
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: with someone else, it's just amazing that you can have

606
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: the healthiest kid possible. And I wish that everyone could

607
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: be able to experience that and be able to have that.

608
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: UM And I hope that does become affordable and covered

609
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: by our insurance for everyone. Yeah. No, And that's that's

610
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: that's the part of it that I always felt like

611
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: you were playing god. I mean it's like every embryo,

612
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: everything is genetically tested, and then they're like, well this

613
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: embryo has some predisposition for this, and as embryo is this,

614
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: like do you want to? And then then that also

615
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: felt weird too. I mean, if we were a straight couple,

616
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: you know, we would just fucking get pregnant so much easier.

617
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: It's a little more of a process, a little cheaper,

618
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: but then the bills are all the same when the

619
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: baby comes, no matter what. Um. Alright, so John, what

620
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: is next for new kids? Now? When y'all got back together?

621
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: Was this all? Annie? I feel like Donnie's now like

622
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: the manager of the group. Is that the scenario? Um?

623
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, he's He's definitely the most outgoing of all

624
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: of us. He's he's the one that loves to dig in. Um,

625
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, he he's a workaholic for sure. He loves working. Um.

626
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean he's he's definitely the one that

627
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: that is that is continually pushing this thing forward. I mean,

628
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: was he It was he the one that kind of

629
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: really said, hey, guys, let's let's maybe this is something

630
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: that we can do. Get back together, figure this out,

631
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: because again we haven't done it. Who knows if we're

632
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: ever gonna do it again. So it's interesting. Yeah, No,

633
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: Donnie's trust He's even called me. Donnie has even called

634
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: me many times. I was actually in New York. Otta

635
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: know where he calls me. I don't even know he

636
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: knew I was in New York. He goes, what are

637
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: you doing? I go nothing, goes come over to the

638
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: set he was shooting blue Bloods. I walk over. He

639
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: goes over the hell by the way. So what do

640
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: you think about it? Instant getting back together and doing

641
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: this great like he wants. He wants to get like

642
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: us new kids back. Should get everybody together, boy Banker.

643
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think maybe one day would have to happen.

644
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: I would say never, say never, but we haven't even

645
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: done anything yet, so who knows if that's everything even

646
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: happen either. So but yeah, he's always he's always trying

647
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: to figure it out. I would love to see you

648
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: guys get back together and it's like, you know, yeah,

649
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: we gotta get you guys back together, right. It would

650
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: definitely be fun. It's weird, though, because when y'all started,

651
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there was no such thing as a boy

652
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: band when y'all you know, got together. I mean, boy

653
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: band didn't come to America until I mean even but

654
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: they were not called like it was a German phrase,

655
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: So really no one had anyone to compare you guys too.

656
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean maybe the Beatles, but there was no such

657
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: thing as like this boy band, which I think was

658
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: a derogatory term, just to make us feel less than.

659
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, so when these boy bands explode with

660
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: ninety degrees and Backstreet and US and freaking Hansen, you know,

661
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: and you know, right on the tail of you guys,

662
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: what did you think about this boy band explosion where

663
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: you all like pissed or like wait minute? Um? You know, well,

664
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: like I said that that, you know, pop music just

665
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: disappeared for a little while. You know, I was that

666
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: what did you say? Set? But um, I went down

667
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: to Florida and I saw what you know, Lul was

668
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: up to and in all this stuff coming down the lines,

669
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: and you know, knew about you guys over in Germany

670
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: and stuff. Um, so you know, I was a little jealous.

671
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: I was a little like, you know, who are these who?

672
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: These guys on my feet? You know. But it's great,

673
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, and I am so glad that you know

674
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: that the boy band tradition has been passed down to

675
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: you guys and passed down to other groups as we

676
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: as we go in history and and I think as

677
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: we get older though too. The funny part was that

678
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, told those in the in the early stages,

679
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: it felt like a rivalry. We we say that, but

680
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: as as you get older, you're like, wait a minute,

681
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: there's actually plenty of room for all of us to

682
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: be out here, and and if we do stuff together,

683
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: we're even stronger in numbers if we did it, you

684
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's that's the cool thing

685
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: about nowadays. Back in the day, it was kind of like,

686
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, they used to push this aside with BacT.

687
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: You know, they don't talk to them even though we're

688
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: by the same management team, which was so weird. It

689
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: was very strange. But you know, it's it's fun. I

690
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: guess for fans too. You know, it's like your sports

691
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: team right well, there's still there's still not as good

692
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: as us. I mean, we know that. That's just a fact.

693
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: You know. I've never I've never talked to you about

694
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: Lou Proman. I didn't know that you actually knew him.

695
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: Because the big story, you know, I did that documentary

696
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: and I wish I had gotten you in it. I

697
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: love that documentary. Thanks, thanks. I mean I learned a

698
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: lot for sure, and you know the big story and

699
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing a Hulu show right now and it's

700
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: the scripted version of that documentary, So we're gonna get

701
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: to really know Lou Promon from you know, birth to death.

702
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: But it's a lot of the very first episode. You

703
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: guys are in it a lot because the story is

704
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: that he um. The whole reason he wanted to get

705
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: into this pop music and again there was no listening

706
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: as a boy band, but a pop music group was

707
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: because he saw you guys or heard about you guys,

708
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: and there are a billion dollar business and he like,

709
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: flew y'all on one of his private planes. He saw

710
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: getting on a private plane. How these guys affording and

711
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: paying for this private plane is what we heard? See

712
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: he told me. Now, he told me that y'all flew

713
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: on one of his planes, and that's how he was like, yeah,

714
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: that's how can they afford to fly on this private plane?

715
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, it's a billion dollar business. Love and

716
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: he's like ship okay, I'm in yeah, And I don't

717
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: ever think that we rented one of the province planes.

718
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: And he didn't have a plane. He never had one.

719
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: He never had it. And you know it's funny that

720
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: that in in Um he was like, you know, New

721
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: Kids is over. Do you want to come down to

722
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: Florida and consult. Um. This was before I really knew

723
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: who he was. Um, so he's like, yeah, I'll send

724
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: my private jet for you. You know, we'll get you

725
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: down to Florida. Perfect. Let's let's see how this works out.

726
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: A Delta Airlines to get first class comes in the

727
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: mail and I'm like, who, Like, what your your planket?

728
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: He was like, no, I own that Delta Airlines plank

729
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: at least put Delta. So that was my first like

730
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what's going on here? Got to Florida,

731
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: stayed in his house for you know, a week. Really

732
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: love the guy. He was charming, but there was just

733
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: some weird things about him that I was like, this

734
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: is this is not right? Uh. The man would cut

735
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: into my bedroom in the morning, sit at the edge

736
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: of my bed. I'm in underwear, you know probably you know,

737
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: still had my you know, twenty year old body. Um,

738
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: it's just weird. Like he was like waiting for me

739
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: to crawl out of bed and like walk across the

740
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: room and I was like, something's just not right here.

741
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: And as as time went by, I just was like

742
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: this guy is it's this is not looking and I

743
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: just like left orlandomes like done done with? I love

744
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: was that the house in Alesworth that he lived in? Yes,

745
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: because I lived in that house too. I wonder what

746
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: did you Which bedroom did you have? I think we

747
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: shared the same God never stayed there. You would hear

748
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: stories about like, don't go in the hot ub, don't

749
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: go into don't go into the tanning room, don't And

750
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: I was just like, Wow, this is creepy like that.

751
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: Everybody was talking about it right from day one. I

752
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: was just like, is it is it weird to know

753
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: that there's naked videos of you floating around somewhere, John Knight?

754
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: But they're probably God bless God bless Oh the ship

755
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: we had to go through. Uh So, what's up next? John?

756
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: I know you're show h t V so great one. Okay,

757
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: So when you when you left New Kids in the nineties,

758
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: you went straight into real estate, which was brilliant. Um.

759
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: Why why did you want to get into something you

760
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: always wanted to do? Um? I mean since since I

761
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: was a kid. My mother she's like so into architecture.

762
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: We drive around neighborhoods and we just look at houses

763
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: and just you know, be like, oh, I love that.

764
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: I loved that house. My dad was a contractor, so

765
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: it kind of was in me and I think if

766
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: new kids didn't happen, I would have been a car

767
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: printer or an architect. So you know, Lukis kind of

768
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: took me away, and uh, when it ended, I was

769
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: able to come back to that. Um. It was. It

770
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: was a real challenge for me. Um. I remember talking

771
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: to my brother Jordan's and I'm like, dude, like, we're

772
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: making millions of dollars a year, Like, how how am

773
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: I going to continue this? And he said stop thinking

774
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: like that. He goes go out and make fifty dollars

775
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: year and then the next year make a hundred thousand

776
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Um. So that really helps me to say, like, Okay,

777
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: I can get into this business and you know, just

778
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: try to make something of it. So um. There was

779
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: a Boston policeman that did detail at the end of

780
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: my driveway and one day he we became friends and

781
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: one day he called me up and he goes, hey,

782
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: you want to flip houses with me? And I'm like,

783
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: flip houses? Like never heard the term. Um, you know,

784
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: I thought it was some corrupt thing, like you're gonna

785
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: come vacation steel all that stuff and sell it on

786
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: the black market. Um, but he just you know, showed

787
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: me the ropes and showed me that you could, you know,

788
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: flip houses. And it became a thing. And we did

789
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: that for years and years and years and years and years,

790
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: and it's it's just in my blood now. I just

791
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: how many houses would you say, y'all flip? So far? Oh? Man?

792
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: You know it's too many the time. I think the

793
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: last time I counted was close to two hundreds. Damn,

794
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: what's the biggest one? And I'm not talking about money wise,

795
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: it could be you know, it's smart as square footage house.

796
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: You you're doing big houses? Are you flipping? You know? No?

797
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean I guess the biggest house I flip was

798
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: the first house I bought. Done with that, but no,

799
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: we did. We just did a lot of houses in

800
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: in the new neighborhood we grew up in in Boston.

801
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: And you know, it's so rewarding when neighbors would walk

802
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: by and they would thank you for helping improve the

803
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: neighborhood and like that was the worst house on the

804
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: block and now it's beautiful. So um, yeah, it's it's

805
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: been great. And then to be able to take my

806
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: passion for houses and to parlay that to a hit

807
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: TV show on h G t V has just been

808
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, I still pitched myself a day. I'm like

809
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: fit before and doing what I'm doing now. And it's

810
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: great because you know, you live on a farm. What

811
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: what made you want to live just out in the country. Um. Well,

812
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: it's funny because I went to visit my childhood home

813
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: in in Boston the other day to meet with the

814
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: new homeowners. We had three quarters of an acre of land.

815
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: We had our carriage house out back, which you know

816
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: back in the days they put up the horses to

817
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: the carriage and go to the store and all that stuff. Um.

818
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: But in the you know, in the seventies, my parents

819
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: bought that house and we for some reason, I don't

820
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: know if it was my parents or I mean most

821
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: kids asked for a puppy. I think we would ask

822
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: for like can we get some goats or some chickens

823
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: or you know, a pony. We had pigs, we had

824
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: a sheep, like, we just had everything at this house. Um.

825
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: And I just remember loving that farm life, and you know,

826
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 1: it was farm life, but we were in the most

827
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: urban setting ever, so when I first was financially independent

828
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: from my parents, I was like, see you, I'm leaving

829
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: the city. I've moved to the town I mean now

830
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: bought twenty acres and just love with farm, animals and

831
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: barns and growing food and all that stuff. I mean

832
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: that is You've inspired me a lot, Like since you've

833
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: been living there. I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna

834
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: do what John did, Like I want to live. I

835
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: need I need goats, I need horses, a donkey, couple

836
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: of pigs like I would That would make me so happy.

837
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: And now we're in the next two or three years,

838
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna base ourselves, you know, somewhere around Nashville,

839
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: um and get that farm, and I just I want

840
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: my kids to be able to wake up in the

841
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: morning and help feed animals, and you know, you have

842
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: some good responsibility. It just would make me so happy.

843
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: So when I do that, you're gonna have to help me,

844
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: uh fix my phone. I'm there. This could be a

845
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: TV show, you better believe it. No, I'll definitely do

846
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: an episode with you, because uh, I need all the

847
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: help I can get because I hill basically just the

848
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: opposite from Beverly's to be in the hill, but as

849
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: you go, the oppice away a lot of help. I

850
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: just want a lot of help for that. As I

851
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: get older, I just want peace, you know, I just

852
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: want it is it's the piece. I mean, everybody's always like,

853
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: why don't you have gright here? I'm like, there's a

854
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: few in there, but I mean they're they're they're being

855
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: withheld because every morning I can just walk out and

856
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: then such an amazing field. Okay, So what's next for

857
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: Jonathan Knight? Uh? Do you'll have new kids stuff playing? Next?

858
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna be shooting your new season? Um, I don't know,

859
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: Well what are you are you guys still doing the

860
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: cruises as well? You guys still know knows every year

861
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: or now? Yeh yeah see, And that's the thing. If

862
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: if and got back together, you guys could do a cruise. Um,

863
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: we're probably I think I lost count. This might be.

864
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand how that many people fit on the

865
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: freaking bocus. I've seen pictures. Unreal, it is unreal. It's

866
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: it's awesome with you guys have done you know. I mean,

867
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure again, like you said, Donnie's a workaholic, so

868
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: he's always trying to find angles in ways. I'm sure

869
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: you all are. But it's interesting to see his hustle

870
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: and what he does and how he maneuvers is I've

871
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: seen a lot of things in a lot of deals

872
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: that he's done, how he maneuvers with stuff, which is again, yeah,

873
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: he's NonStop. It's not it's not a joke. When you

874
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: do these cruises, how do you like, you can't walk around?

875
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: So what do you do? Security? You navigate, you can

876
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: it's it's you know what it's It's such a difference

877
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: are fans from the nineties compared to now. I mean

878
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: it's not so much fanatic, it's not this you know,

879
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: it's just they it's just they want this. Um so

880
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: you can walk through the ship and have conversations with

881
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: people and um, it's it's it's pretty amazing. It's funny. Yeah,

882
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: I've done the Impractical Jokers. They have a cruise that

883
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: they do and I've done it for like the four

884
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: years in a row that they've done it now and

885
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: it's and just kind of like that though. It's just

886
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: so awesome because they do walk around freely, you can

887
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: go and and it's not Yeah, they're not like on

888
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: top of you kind of. It's it's interesting. It's a

889
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: cool vibe. It's a really cool vibe. Just even have

890
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: like that, like any of those theme cruises that people

891
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: are doing now. It's awesome. I think it's really cool.

892
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: It's fun because of an opportunity. Yeah, do you see

893
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: You see the people coming time and time again. Though,

894
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: it's amazing, right, the same fans. You see the same people.

895
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: We know your l freaking l who got engaged at

896
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: your concert. We all yeah, I know her, Yeah, we

897
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: all know her. All right, Um, let's take a little

898
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: break care when we come back. The show is called

899
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: Frost the Tips. So I'm gonna need some tips from you,

900
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: um that fans have written in um, and I think

901
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna give some great advice. So we'll be right back.

902
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: And we are back with Frost and Tips. I got

903
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: Joey for tone. My work husband, Michael's in the air

904
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, that's a good news. That's good news.

905
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna see my kids. I hope who I

906
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: am at this point? Um? All right, John, So Frost

907
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: to Tips is the name of the show. We finally

908
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: the first episode with j C. We didn't have any

909
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: questions because no one knew we were coming out with

910
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: the show, but now we have hundreds of questions that

911
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: we've been going through. Uh, you guys out there have

912
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: really delivered, and thank you all so much for listening

913
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: because that first one was really good. Y'all made us

914
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: number one in music category? What what things like that?

915
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: And I think what number twenty four of any podcast

916
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: in there? Off twenty three and that's raight. Oh, we're

917
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: not gonna be happy to get number one, but thanks

918
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: for all your love out there. So here we go.

919
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: You better stop you better stop bragging about how well

920
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: you're doing. I might I might have to charge you

921
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: for being here. I mean, no, this is charity. What

922
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: are you talking about? So here we go. Here's some

923
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: Uh they've asked for some tips from Jonathan Night here.

924
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: So for people who are dealing with anxiety and afraid

925
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: to step away from work like you had to do,

926
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: what kind of advice do you have for them? Yeah? Um, well,

927
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: I've learned in my older years, and when I say

928
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: older years, probably just like the last eight years. Um,

929
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: to just hit anxiety face first. I mean, there's a

930
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: lot of times where it's easier to say no and

931
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: I say yes. I mean a couple of weeks ago, Hey,

932
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: you want to do this podcast? And I'm like, oh

933
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: my god, like podcast, what are we gonna talk about?

934
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: How's it gonna go? I don't know, And then you

935
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: just get all this anxiety. And I was just like

936
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: I didn't let that get to that point and was like, yes,

937
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: I will do Lance's podcast Joy at the same time.

938
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: And I've learned to that, and we were just talking

939
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: about this, like Joe and I are just like, yes man, yes, yes, yeah,

940
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, my friend. Sure. The last few years, I've

941
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: learned the power of no and it brings my anxiety

942
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: down so much now to say no. I'm not saying

943
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: you should have said no to this, but well it's

944
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: just it's just less stuff on your shoulders. Like every everybody,

945
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: because you want to please everybody. That's the thing. We're

946
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: all kind of pleasers and that's the hardest. We gotta

947
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. You're talking about two different things.

948
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: You could be a yes man that that well, I

949
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: think when you say yes to everything, yeah, it is

950
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: a form of anxiety because you don't want to let

951
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: people down. So's I know you're saying yours is more extreme,

952
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: mars is more of a little for that. Yeah, yeah,

953
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: saying here's the questions. If someone wanted to join a

954
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: boy band tomorrow, what are some tips that you would

955
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: give them. You wish someone told you, Oh goodness, um,

956
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: don't do it. Um, I guess, don't take everything so serious, like,

957
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 1: you know, just have fun with it. I think as

958
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: as young well, I guess it depends. If you're a

959
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: fifty year old boy banded, you're gonna have a quote

960
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: different outlook. I just think as kids, I think, you know,

961
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: we didn't know what the hell we were doing. Um,

962
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: and you you just take everything so seriously. And you know,

963
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: I remember as a kid like, oh, you know, I'm

964
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: the best thing on the world, on the planet. Like, no,

965
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: you're not. You're just some a little punk as kid.

966
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: Like I will say that. Actually, Jordan gave me advice

967
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: one time. I was at one. I came in with

968
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I ran into him at and your brother

969
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: even said we were talking about certain things. It's like, hey,

970
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: you just know your power. Just know, like when you're

971
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: in the position that you're in, know your power where

972
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: it's okay to say no that kind of stuff, and

973
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: I remember him saying that. I always I don't know,

974
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: it's so funny that we're happy to be doing this

975
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: interview with you, but you're it's funny that your brother

976
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: said that to me that one time. I'll never forget

977
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: that weird And I think I think a lot of

978
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: advice I give younger artists now is definitely have a

979
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: backup plant. I mean, the odds of us being as

980
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: successful as we were were you know, amazing. I mean,

981
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: it's it's not we are so lucky. It's not every

982
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: day you think of all the artists that are out

983
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: there that you know what percentage making. So definitely always

984
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: have a background. Yeah, agreed, I say that to everyone.

985
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, go for your dreams. If you want

986
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: to be an act or whatever, it is almost impossible,

987
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: you know, to become that. So always have something of

988
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: interest that you can fall back on, you know, and always,

989
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: you know, go for that side hustle too, because that

990
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: could be your main hustle. Um, all right, here's your

991
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: last tip, um as host of Farmhouse Fixer. Besides open

992
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: kitchen plans, what is one home design tip you think

993
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: everyone should know on home design tip? Oh my god? Um,

994
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's so many. It's like, what's the

995
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: one that sticks in your head over and over again? Though,

996
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: what's the one that would probably client? Um? I will

997
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, the number one design is stay away

998
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: from fats, and you know everything is a fat. Like

999
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm installing kitchens now that in ten years

1000
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: people can be like, oh my goodness, that's such a kitchen. Um,

1001
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, so I I I'd like to try to

1002
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: keep things just simple classic in times what style is

1003
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: forever classic? Like what's your go to? Oh man, that's

1004
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: come on. It's really the hard hitting questions that I give. Um,

1005
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, I just think, um, natural materials, I think,

1006
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: you know, I think like a career Marvel is never

1007
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna go out of style. But then you could have

1008
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: like this weird career marble tile that's like a certain

1009
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: way in like this basket weave like I have, which

1010
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: I hate right now in my kitchen. Um, it's simple, clean,

1011
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: not I think you have to look back at history

1012
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: and and just see like the houses from that era

1013
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, one thing that because you know, because

1014
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: of COVID, we've actually fallen in love with our house.

1015
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: So now we're like, let's redesign it. So you know,

1016
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: three years later and we're still room by room, I'm

1017
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: going tile crazy and I'm going wallpaper crazy. And I

1018
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: have a feeling that the wallpaper is gonna kind of

1019
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: get outdated at some point, which is fine because you

1020
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: can always replace it. That's a good tip that you've

1021
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: given yourself, right the wallpaper. Things like wallpaper, paint, furniture, carpets,

1022
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: like wallpaper, all your walls if they if it goes

1023
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: out of style, and the wallpaper, you put up something

1024
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: to do and it costs the cost of wallpaper. Same

1025
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: thing with paint, Like I always tell people that is

1026
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: the easiest way to transform. Grow some paint. Like it

1027
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: a couple of years later, you don't like it, you know,

1028
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: gift dollars for another gown of you know what really

1029
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: kind of changed the look of our house because you know,

1030
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: we we live in a pretty smaller house, um, and

1031
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, you feel a little trapped sometimes, especially now

1032
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 1: with two kids running around. This house is so small.

1033
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: Two kids trapped in your house, Yeah, yeah it is.

1034
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: But what we did in our bedroom, in the main

1035
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: living room, we took one wall and we did this

1036
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: kind of rose gold mirror. So it's the whole wall.

1037
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: It opened up everything and it just looks cool because

1038
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: it's not like mirror mirrors, is it. What's the room

1039
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: that I sleep in? Is it the wallpaper with the

1040
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: tigers on it? That's the wallpaper with the no tigers.

1041
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: I told you went crazy. I mean by the time

1042
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: we got done with all the wallpaper, I looked around like,

1043
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: holy shit, every room has wallpaper. What the hell did

1044
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: we do? What was your house build? It was definitely

1045
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: built in the seventies, and then when I bought it,

1046
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: uh ten years ago, it was a total total knockdown.

1047
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: Uh so when we went down to the studs, but

1048
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: we we re shaved and redid everything. Um but yeah,

1049
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: it definitely had the the seventies plumbing here. Yeah. But

1050
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: uh no, but we've we've fallen in love with it.

1051
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm hoping if we do get to Nashville and get

1052
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: on my farm that I will still be able to

1053
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: keep this here because it is It's a special place

1054
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: for sure, and it's manageable. All right. My last thing

1055
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: I want to do with you, Jonathan, Um we love

1056
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: to uh bring back an old Team magazine question and answer,

1057
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: and I want to see if your answers still match

1058
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: thirty years later. Okay, so this is from a teen

1059
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: magazine from the mid nineteen eighties. Okay, um, what is

1060
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: your favorite school subject? English? Wrong, science, and art? Oh god,

1061
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: perfect way to spend a date? Oh give us uh,

1062
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: pizza and movies. Nope, doing anything as long as you're

1063
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: here with the one you love so sweet. Doing anything

1064
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: as long as not sex with women. That's my job,

1065
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: thank you. Um, give me two or three words to

1066
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: describe yourself. Remember this is mid eighties. Jonathan Knight, shy

1067
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 1: would be one uh uh charming, I don't know. Yeah,

1068
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: now that's I don't here. Uh. And its funny that

1069
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: the gay ones are always the shy one because we

1070
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: were too afraid to speak, like when old people to

1071
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: figure it out. The reason why, Because I came out,

1072
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: you never got back in. You was out. You were

1073
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: just out. I mean, when you when you're pushed out

1074
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: like that, you gotta you gotta. You got a lot

1075
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: of years to catch up on. I'm still catching up

1076
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: on the years. Caring, sensitive and hard working. Caring, sensitive, hardworking.

1077
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is the best. What was your

1078
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: first ambition you must have been at this time Um,

1079
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: I have no clue. You'll never get it. It's to walk.

1080
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: That's definitely an answer. After you're in the opposices of

1081
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: magazines and you're just like, shut the hell up. Yeah exactly, yeah, no,

1082
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: you start writing stuff down just to see if they posted.

1083
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: They do it. J c's quiz last week, there was

1084
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: a companies like I he goes. I never filled that up.

1085
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: There's no way I said that. It's like, what's your

1086
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: favorite thing to read? Shakespeare? Yeah, like Shakespeare, favorite vacation spot?

1087
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see if this is still the same, yeah, Hawaii?

1088
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: Uh is your favorite food? What now? Uh? Yeah? Lasagna? Italian? Italian? Okay,

1089
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: and here's your last one. What was your favorite car

1090
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: in the eighties? Favorite car in the eighties? Hint, it

1091
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: was black. My favorite car was just black? A black. No, no,

1092
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: it's a it's but we're just you know, it had

1093
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: to have been the first car I bought my three

1094
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: thousand GT whatever Mitsubishi there's a black BMW seven yeah. Yeah. Um.

1095
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: And before we let you go, I have to go

1096
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: to a couple of fan questions because y'all really did

1097
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: I'll do yourselves with a lot of these questions. So

1098
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to a few here. What's your favorite

1099
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: and least favorite song to perform live? Mine is Here

1100
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: We Go. I think everyone knows that. I mean honestly

1101
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 1: all of them, you know. I You know, I will

1102
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: listen to like or I'll be in our car and

1103
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: like the eighties on eight or the nineties come on,

1104
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: and I'll listen to our songs and I'll just be

1105
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: like fringing, like oh my god, because they're like the

1106
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: cheesiest song. But I think most artists do that. Um,

1107
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, I I love performing new songs on stage.

1108
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: It's it's so much fun. I mean, of course I

1109
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: love our old songs too, but it's just it's just

1110
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: it was just weird, like hanging tough, like you know

1111
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. Look, boys in the band is a bob.

1112
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: Not because I'm in the music video, but it is

1113
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: a bob. All right. Um? Have you ever thought about

1114
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: writing a book? I have a book in the can um.

1115
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: It never had a proper ending, I was told, um,

1116
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: And then I keep going back to it. And the

1117
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: sad thing is, I'm such a perfectionist. It's like I'm

1118
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: all or nothing. So I'll go back and I'll read

1119
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: my book and I'll be like, this really sucks. It's

1120
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: not good when everybody's like, this is great. Just just

1121
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: put it out there, um, you know. And I think

1122
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: you know how you said we're the we're the quiet ones.

1123
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: I think in this book, I was really able to

1124
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: speak out. And I think there's things in there that

1125
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: would probably give my mother a heart attack. So it's

1126
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: very trick. He's still like, I don't I don't know

1127
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: if I want to publish that. Yeah, it's tricky. I

1128
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: when I wrote mine, I was definitely not in the

1129
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: right space to write it because I had just come

1130
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: out and I didn't know my world at all. Um,

1131
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: But I just I just wanted to get something, especially

1132
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: my coming out story. I just wanted to get on paper.

1133
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: Just so like we said before, my memory just goes.

1134
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't remember things quite the same way. So it's

1135
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: been fifteen years since I wrote that book, and there's

1136
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: some things like I'll read like a little you know,

1137
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: passage from like that that's not the way it really happened.

1138
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: Like it's just weird. I you really trick yourself into

1139
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: thinking that's the way things went down. But now hindsight,

1140
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, that's a scary thing. I mean, I know

1141
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: when I wrote my book and then I went back

1142
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: and reread it and redid some things because I didn't

1143
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: like it, and uh, you know, the person that helped

1144
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: me write it was like, you were such an angry

1145
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: person when you wrote this, and now you're not that angry.

1146
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, the same with me. And I was like,

1147
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: all but hurt over bad relationships. So I like, you know,

1148
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this one did this. Man. I'm like,

1149
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: if I would have waited ten yars, like, there's no

1150
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: way I would have you know, like really, ship, it's

1151
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: not you know who telling me when I when I

1152
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: was writing the book, I was talking to David Geffen

1153
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: and the first thing he said to me is like,

1154
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: don't do it. I'm like, well, he goes, don't do it.

1155
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: Don't do it, and he was kind of right. I'm like,

1156
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, there's some things that just

1157
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: need to be private. Yeah. Good. The good thing about

1158
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: writing a book for me was that it really gave

1159
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: me stock in my life. It's like, you know, you

1160
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: take all these index cards and you write, you know,

1161
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: nine eight, I was one years old, what is going on?

1162
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: It was it was very therapeutic. So if anything, you know,

1163
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: I grew from that experience and you know, hopefully when

1164
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: I die, it doesn't get leaked. And we're gonna have

1165
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: to end with this question because it is the best

1166
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: one I have ever heard. Um, what is your go

1167
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: to dunkin Donuts order? Now you're not you have large

1168
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: as original coffee to Mocus World for creed. There it is.

1169
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: I actually had to put it in the in the

1170
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: in here because I didn't know if you know, sponsorships

1171
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: and you know now they're going to be knocking on sponsorship.

1172
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: That's awesome that you actually even had it right then

1173
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: and there. Um, Jonathan, thank you so much for being

1174
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: on the show with us. We love you. Um, I'm

1175
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: so happy to see the man you have become, the

1176
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: life that you're living, your authentic self. You and Harley

1177
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: are the best. I'm gonna come visit your farm because

1178
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to teach me how to farm. Um.

1179
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope that you're in l A soon

1180
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: or we're on the East coast to be able to

1181
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: see each other. Yeah, actually, well we'll talk. Yeah. No

1182
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: matter what nobody says, you're the best out of any

1183
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: of the guys and new kids. That's my That's if

1184
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: anyone asked, that's the true saying. I don't care. I

1185
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: tell you, brother, tell Mac, I don't care. Don't tell

1186
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: me this motherfuckers. How can everyone stay in touch with you? John?

1187
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: Are you on the socials? Yes, the socials? Crazy? Uh yeah, Instagram,

1188
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 1: Not not so much on Twitter anymore, but uh yeah,

1189
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: Jonathan are Night and Farmhouse Fixer I'm sure has a

1190
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: whole set up to h Yeah. Yeah, alright, and go

1191
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: watch the show a TV. It is awesome. Alright, guys, well,

1192
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: so good to see you. Give Harley my love and

1193
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: uh we'll be seeing you soon. Bye. I mean, what

1194
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: a great guy. I've always loved Jonathan. I mean, obviously

1195
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: I relate the very special. That's one of the things

1196
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: you can't definitely relate to him. But I think what

1197
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: other gay boy band members are there? Some are probably

1198
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: still hidden, but I mean, okay out gay like, there's

1199
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: got to be more than me and Jonathan Knight. Yeah,

1200
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure there is who I don't know. I know

1201
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: for sure, Yes, I'm not sure. Has a Battery boy

1202
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: not come out? Well, we always question a j oh J.

1203
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: We'll be here next week. Well we can question you

1204
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: can question him though. That's a good that's a good

1205
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: lead in. Yeah. A j mc clean is gonna be

1206
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: our next guest, so get your questions in. Uh, ladies,

1207
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: who do we how do they? Just d M s

1208
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: the questions? So yeah, just d M s um. It's

1209
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: Frosted Tips with Lance. Um. All right, since you're here,

1210
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: might as well do an episode with you, right, So

1211
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: let's just go right into it. So I guess you'll

1212
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: be on after A J next week? Yes, yes, but

1213
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: you can't tell anyone what we talked about. I won't know.

1214
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: It's it's a secret. We can't tell anyone that you're

1215
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 1: on the show either. You have to wait till this airs. Okay, alright, guys,

1216
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: we'll see you next week with Mr a J. McLean.

1217
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: Be good to each other, don't drink and drive out there,

1218
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: and we'll see you next week on Frosted Tips with

1219
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: Lance and not me because Michael be back. Hey, thanks

1220
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: for listening. Follow us on Instagram at Frosted Tips with

1221
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: Lance and Michael Urson R. And at Lance Bass for

1222
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 1: all your pop culture needs, and make sure to write

1223
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: us review and leave us five stars six if you

1224
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: can see you next time.