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Speaker 2: You're featherweight champion BC.

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Speaker 1: Patricio Freddy will defend his title against aj McKee. But

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Speaker 1: Would you agree, one of the most important fights in

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Speaker 3: Face to the franchise. Patricio Pippoll two division champion in

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Speaker 3: There's really only one way, Luke, to sort of look ahead.

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Speaker 1: I can think of no one more deserving, at least

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Speaker 1: what you want us to do. But BC, in all

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Speaker 3: He was twelve to oher when he made his Belatour

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was just twenty three years old at

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Speaker 3: To see the large rises he has had to get

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Speaker 4: Four defeats over this great career.

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Speaker 3: But as one thing we learned in going back and

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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, Luke, it goes without saying

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Speaker 4: And this is one of the most exciting fighters of

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Speaker 3: It's actually a loss, the first loss of Patricio Pippole's career.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, part of the reason why people have

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Speaker 1: it very clearly. Joe Warren had food poisoning. He had

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Speaker 4: This was their rematch.

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Speaker 3: Pipple had won a decision in the first fight, which

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Speaker 4: He beat the bags off.

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Speaker 3: Well, these three straight wins, Luke, that he had coming

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Speaker 1: Vasquez Marquez of MMA, I think the closest you could

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Speaker 1: Way I would mean it is you don't see a

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Speaker 2: By the way, Jim.

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Speaker 3: Chanceys was long, was accurate, his crap was tough as nails.

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Speaker 3: This first meeting May twenty first, twenty eleven, as we

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Speaker 3: would take this fight three rounds unanimous decision. What's interesting though,

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Speaker 2: That's right, consistently.

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Speaker 1: It's the war there, because he's been in bad spots

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Speaker 2: But Strauss, there's just no denying it.

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Speaker 1: He made pit Bull a better fighter, and one thing

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Speaker 2: They had a.

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Speaker 1: World class opponent, world class opponent, world class opponent, dude.

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Speaker 1: For a guy like that to learn on the job

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Speaker 3: Something very key happened at the end of this first

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Speaker 3: By winning this tournament season four twenty eleven, he was

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Speaker 3: eleven when he gets three wins in three successive months,

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Speaker 1: And let's be clear about something. Pat Kerran didn't just

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Speaker 2: He was doing unbelievable things.

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Speaker 1: So Pitbull wins Season four can't really build on the

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Speaker 2: And so now you're right, he gets it.

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Speaker 3: And when he comes back in twenty thirteen and healthy,

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Speaker 3: While I liked the respect Pitbull gave from knowing he

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Speaker 4: He was going to have to go the distance.

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Speaker 3: There, he showed Current, I thought way too much respect,

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Speaker 1: Pat Current, for the folks who knew at the time

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Speaker 2: There was many guys who wanted to do great things.

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Speaker 1: Pat Curran was one of them, and by this point

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Speaker 2: And I think from this one he learned two things.

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Speaker 1: One, I think you're absolutely right about the patients and

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Speaker 3: We went through five rounds, though it would turn out

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Speaker 3: So when I criticized in hindsight and saying, okay, this

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Speaker 4: This was the fight that still sticks.

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Speaker 4: And the judges hands anymore. You know, there can't it

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Speaker 2: No, there really can't.

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Speaker 2: He can give them a hell over run for their money.

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Speaker 2: his early to mid twenties at this point. But a

439
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,440
Speaker 2: narrative narrative, however, fair on Fairbce.

440
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,919
Speaker 1: Actually, I think he's still in his early twenties at

441
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 1: this point is beginning to shape around him a little bit.

442
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. He's in his mid twenties here, coming

443
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,840
Speaker 3: off the loss to Pat Current, he blows away Jared

444
00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,439
Speaker 3: Downing in two rounds enters season nine of the Featherweight Tournament,

445
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 3: which was Fall of twenty thirteen. Yes, Luke, he would

446
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 3: go seven to zero in the aftermath of this Pat

447
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 3: Current loss, But it started off with a knockout in

448
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 3: the first round of Diego Nuness, a unanimous decision win

449
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,640
Speaker 3: over Fabrici Guerrero.

450
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,160
Speaker 1: But I want to back up a little step before

451
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,840
Speaker 1: you pass on. The Jared Downing fight was just to fight.

452
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 1: He was set up to win, basically, just to stay

453
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 1: a busy fight. The Diego Nunez fight is the one

454
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting. Newnes was a guy who had

455
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 1: done great things in UFC.

456
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 2: He had moved on from at that point.

457
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone thought that was necessarily the very

458
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 1: best version of them.

459
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,520
Speaker 2: I'll never forget this one.

460
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 1: When this fight happened and Patricio just demolished him, I

461
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 1: know there are a lot of people being like, Wow,

462
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,679
Speaker 1: who is this guy in Bellatore that was doing that?

463
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 2: Just did this? Because we know the guy Diego.

464
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 1: He had was a fun, action oriented striking fighter and

465
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 1: then he goes and just gets absolutely one punch dropped again,

466
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 1: physical tools from day one showing up with this guy.

467
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 1: That was one of the first times I really remember

468
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 1: people who were not into Bellatore turning their head a

469
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 1: little bit because that got on their radar.

470
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,160
Speaker 3: He would go into the finals of that season nine

471
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 3: Fatherway Tournament against Justin Wilcox and this was a step

472
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 3: forward performance at Belatour.

473
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 4: One Oh wait, Luke.

474
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 3: This shows up in his highlight reel lot because he

475
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 3: put punches together and bunches against Wilcoms.

476
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 2: And also you gotta stand something about Willcox.

477
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 1: This guy at one fifty five forget one forty five

478
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 1: was an absolute gorilla out of the American Kickboxing Academy

479
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 1: Strike Force, veteran you know, limited in some of the

480
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 1: think of his technical abilities, although he had something to

481
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 1: be real.

482
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 4: The silver Back was a nickname just to be just.

483
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 1: Exactly dude, you've ever seen this guy. He is massive

484
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 1: and completely shredded. He was a physical challenge for anyone.

485
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 1: For a guy like Patricio, who is on the smaller

486
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: end of one hundred and forty five pounds. Dude, he

487
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 1: handled justin Wilcox. It was never competitive, and not just

488
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: in the striking department, even in the grappling department.

489
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: He was always one step ahead.

490
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: That was one of those fights where you were like, dude,

491
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 1: that little pocket Hercules can do nasty things to people.

492
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 3: That would set him up after four straight wins for

493
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 3: the rematch against Pat Current for the title, Luke, this

494
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 3: might be the first of the kind of performances where

495
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 3: you can say was maybe the most important or the

496
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 3: turning point performance that showed you the potential long term

497
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 3: greatness in this guy. The setting was September fifth, twenty fourteen,

498
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 3: Belatour one, twenty three in Unclesville, Connecticut. I was in

499
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: attendance in this twenty fourteen about yes I was, and Luke,

500
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 3: there wasn't a ton of doubt in this one. The

501
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: difference between the two fights against Pat Curran was showed

502
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 3: maybe too much respect in the first one, even though

503
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 3: he thought he had done enough to win, but his

504
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: face was kind of mangled afterwards. I thought Current landed

505
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 3: the bigger shots. He showed no respect for Kurrent in

506
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 3: this rematch ship and looked to walk him down from

507
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: the beginning and prove that physically he's not the bigger man,

508
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 3: but he's always going to act like the biggest striker

509
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 3: and puncher and every fight he's in because that's what

510
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 3: he's made of.

511
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 4: And this was a showcase.

512
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 1: This was what I would argue is I think his

513
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: the Wilson Hayes fight was a rematch, but this was

514
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: the first time he had a big rematch. He never

515
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: got to fight Joe Warren again, so it was going

516
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: to be the Pat Current fight. That was going to

517
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: be the first time he had a chance. Of course,

518
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: he fights Deane Straus right after this, but our Danie Weischew.

519
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: I think maybe both the.

520
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: Point being is this wealth, yeswer this was the after

521
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: this fight was over, just like UBC, that was when

522
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: you could say, wow, boy, he not only has he

523
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: gotten better than Pat Kerrn in that time, but whatever

524
00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: criticism you could.

525
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 2: Make of him the first time out, it was completely

526
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: absent dominant.

527
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say I'm gonna keep saying it, dude,

528
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 1: Pocket Hercules here is a dominant physical force at one

529
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pounds. We know because one fifty

530
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: five and he was physically there too. But these guys

531
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: at won forty five too, when Patricio puts hands on them,

532
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: they don't know what to do about it. They've not

533
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: dealt with that kind of power that consistently threw all

534
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: five rounds and the way that pack Kurrn did. By

535
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: the way, credits to Pat Current for having the gumption

536
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: to go through with all that and.

537
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 4: Going the distance.

538
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: Credit to Pat Current because I wanted to say, look

539
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: what we said. What he learned about the loss to

540
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 3: Kurrn was about leaving no doubt in the judge's hands.

541
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: Now he would win this fight by decision. He was

542
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: unable to finish Current over the five rounds in the rematch,

543
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: but he left no doubt. Luke, it was that left

544
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 3: hook that dropped Kerrent early in the fight that you're

545
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: sort of like, oh, this is different.

546
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: Right hand combo is just we didn't see Current maze be.

547
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: This much affected because he wasn't getting as cleanly land. Look.

548
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 4: Current gives you a small strike zone and that first

549
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 4: fight he.

550
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: Did an incredible job at keeping the chin tucked in,

551
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 3: really showing a defensive posture that I think Pipul was

552
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: a little confused by. In the second fight, there was

553
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 3: just a different level of confidence. And it wasn't just

554
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: the punches the floor, it was the timing of the takedowns.

555
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: Luke.

556
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 3: He was able to get Current down more consistently. The

557
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 3: ground and pound and volume was there. And then when

558
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: he buckled Current in round five, this really just cemented if.

559
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: There was any doubt on the scorecards.

560
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: He buckled him, Current kind of wobbled a little, and

561
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: then you got the pitbull flying knee. Now again, it

562
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 3: didn't finish him, but we're seeing the full evolution on

563
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 3: hand of not just the striking game, but dude, the inside,

564
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 3: the intangibles. I'm ready to win the championship. I'm ready

565
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: for to put the responsibility right.

566
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean, those losses clearly stung him, and to your point,

567
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: you're seeing all the physical tools, but also you're seeing

568
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: a guy who, to MEBC, when you watch this fight,

569
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: you begin to realize, Okay, now he knows which punches

570
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: to pick. Now he knows when to throw them. Now

571
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: he knows when to step on the gas. Now he

572
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: knows when to step on the break. Before I think

573
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: he was flying a little bit blind where he would

574
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: didn't know exactly how to approach various tactical challenges. Now

575
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: he was backing up the physical tools with the bad

576
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: experience for making mistakes. Now with the matured skill set,

577
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: and we already knew he could thump dude. He was

578
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: at this time the first time I really begin to say, wow,

579
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: he is a formidable customer in this division again. Season

580
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: four was his big first moment of victory. Season nine

581
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: was the second Patricio Pipples. Now you're Belator featherweight champion.

582
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: But four months later, Luke, there's no soft touches here.

583
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: He would go into his first title defense that was

584
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 3: at this one, and it would come against Daniel Strauss.

585
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 3: This is chapter two of their four fight rivalry. And

586
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: we set the stage here for this, the pit Bull

587
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: Strauss rematch. Belatour one thirty two January sixteenth, twenty fifteen

588
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: to Mechula, California. They met there, meet me into Mechila. Luke, Yeah,

589
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: and this is time.

590
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: That's what I mean about the featherweight division.

591
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: This time you got current coming Warren Strauss, Pitbull and

592
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: other players too. Amazing how the belt would change hands

593
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: and how the rivalries would shape.

594
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 3: Right off the start. In the first two rounds, we

595
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: see Daniel Strauss has changed his game plan and he's

596
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: being defensive and technical. He's always got a technical advantage

597
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 3: over pit Bull, but now he's We're seeing the footwork

598
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: in the boxing and he's really making it hard for

599
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: Pitple to consistently catch up.

600
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. I mean he came in he

601
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: learned some lessons too. Daniel Strauss was not to be

602
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: trifled with. In fact, I think into the third round

603
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: I might have had Strauss up on the scorecards. But

604
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: BC this was the thing that it was kind of

605
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: the problem for Strauss. Yes, he could fall apart at

606
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: the last minute, not any minute, because he didn't fall

607
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: apart in the first round or the second round. Ever,

608
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: it was usually when you got to the deeper waters.

609
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: For some reason, one of the Achilles heels of Daniel

610
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: Strauss was that when the fight was a little bit

611
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: into that stretch where you needed to make sure your

612
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: car deal was on point. And I don't think that

613
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: was his issue, but I think he would lose focus

614
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: sometimes Pitbull does not.

615
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: Pit Bull is well named.

616
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: I know it's a common name to give to all

617
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: the anime fighters, particularly from Brazil.

618
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 2: It's well deserved.

619
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: With him he showcased a little bit of a gimme,

620
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of a gimmy.

621
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: He was in that fight.

622
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: But Strauss making a horrible tactical error showing his back and.

623
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: You're skipping some tactical errors. Let's not talk about it.

624
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: Let's not forget in round three when you had three

625
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 3: straight growing shots from Daniel Strauss included, and you know,

626
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: and they were in such quick succession, although none of

627
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: them looked to be, you know, intentional, but they were

628
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: in such quick succession that referee Big John McCarthy by

629
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 3: the third one had no choice but.

630
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: To take away a point.

631
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: So that's the beginning of almost the ungluing and the

632
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: great work that Strauss had done in the first two rounds.

633
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: We were saying, oh, this rematch is going to be different.

634
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: Well now it's different for a whole new, weird reason.

635
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: So he loses that point. But they trade some some throws.

636
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: You know.

637
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: The wrestling were fairly even.

638
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: There was a leg trip almost like a judo trip

639
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: by Strauss in which Pipple was almost hit. He almost

640
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: got dropped face first on the canvas and kind of

641
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 3: spun and rolled out of it. There were wild exchanges

642
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: right there, I think in terms of momentum swings in

643
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: the craziness, this actually might be.

644
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 4: My favorite of the four fights.

645
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: And it's not. It's not the favorite to be the favorite,

646
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: because the third is definitely the best one. But this

647
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: one's wild and it wasn't an easy walk through.

648
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: And then was off the tour part.

649
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: Like they would do these throws on each other, they

650
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: had a bit of a tit for tat these to

651
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: if one of them landed a big, big, let's say,

652
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: cross on the other one, the the other one wanted

653
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: to get it back constantly, And of course you see

654
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: that in fights all the time, but you would see

655
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: it especially with these two. These two always wanted to

656
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: make sure that they were It was like two brothers.

657
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: They wanted to make sure whatever you do to me,

658
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to do back to you. And you saw

659
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of that, although not.

660
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: So much more.

661
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: Okay, And what we also don't want to forget about

662
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: is the momentum surge from Strauss in round four before

663
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: the mistake that would cought him. He lined up Pipple

664
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: with a one to two and that left Cross dropped fit.

665
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: Now that was a surprising turn of events because despite

666
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: the style of difference. Strauss was more of the boxer

667
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: coming in, the longer guy. He can match him on

668
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: the ground, but he hadn't been hurting Pipple up to

669
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: this point certainly. I mean he lost the first fight,

670
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: he was seemingly losing the second one at this point.

671
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: This is what I mean that South Paul Stanska gave

672
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: Pipple some trouble.

673
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: So Pipple gets up to his credit, he lands a

674
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 3: big counter right suddenly he's walking down Strauss to end

675
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: the fourth luke. But then we got a cup shot

676
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: from Piple, so we're trading follows. By this point there's

677
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: a lot of craziness. Pippole's eye starts to get busted

678
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 3: by the end of round four, so he's bleeding, leading

679
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: to this win, which was almost made of the comfort

680
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 3: behind wind depending on where the scorecards were. I'd love

681
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: to go back and sort of research if you look

682
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: like where those scores were.

683
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: If you look at Strauss has a Camora with no guard,

684
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Smith warns that he can get armboard from

685
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: there like Matt Hughes and George San Pierre. But forget

686
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: that there was no arm bar. Just pay attention. You'll

687
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: see the face of Pitbull against Strauss because he's getting

688
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: he's trying to avoid the Kimora, and the entire back

689
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: of Strauss is covered in pit Bull's blood. It's raining

690
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: down there like a Slayer song. And then when of

691
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: course he eventually gets the submission stands, there's one side

692
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: of pitt Bull's face that is camouflaged in blood.

693
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: You actually can't see the eye.

694
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: Because the whole thing is just a what was a

695
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Crimson mask to borrow mar Ronaldo on his whole side

696
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: of his face.

697
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: And when pit Bull first puts him in that rear

698
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: naked choke you saw, it doesn't quite get it. His

699
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: legs though, at some point, extend out and you're almost like,

700
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: is he is he?

701
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: No, No, that's all Pitbull doing that. That's pit Bull driving

702
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: his hits into him and then leaning into it. And

703
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: what it does is it forces the legs backing up

704
00:28:59,480 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: like that.

705
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: Talk about very soon because wrong, because it's his calling card,

706
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: is his guillotine joke, which he's used to finish big fights. Dude,

707
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: when Pitpole puts his fricking arm, when he puts those

708
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: pythons on you, and something that you had said this

709
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: week when we were talking about this matchup and in

710
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 3: some of the videos we've done, is that Pipple doesn't

711
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: like go for submissions that he's not certain won't in

712
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: the fight. That's right, Like when he looks to apply

713
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: it on you, he's ready in that moment to finish you.

714
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: And dude, who's got a better grip in this game?

715
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't think of him. You think of

716
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: him more as the knockout puncher than the submission expert.

717
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: But he's more than capable when the moment needs it,

718
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: to be the finisher.

719
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: He's not the guy that ever needs the submission. I mean,

720
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: think about it, like if he never submitted the guys

721
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: that he submitted, would he have still lost those fights?

722
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: Maybe?

723
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: Maybe, But my point being is, imagine you told him

724
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: you couldn't submit any when you had to finish him

725
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: ground to pound or whatever the case, he could probably

726
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: still find a way.

727
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: So my point being is if.

728
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: He settles into something, he's not some guy who's like

729
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu or bus, that's the way it's going to go.

730
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, are are you going to hand this

731
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: to me on a silver platter? And obviously he has

732
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: a great clamp and a great setup, but when he

733
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: goes for it, I mean, how many times have you

734
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: seen Pitbull go for a submission and fail. I'm sure

735
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: there's a couple of times along the way, not many, Dude,

736
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: By the time he goes in for that, he has

737
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: a great degree of certainty that the show is over,

738
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: the Fat Lady has sung.

739
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: What makes this win awesome is the visual when pit

740
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: Bull gets up and there's his eyes a mess, there's

741
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: blood driven down his face, and then you realize he

742
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: got dropped that same round loop. So this became a

743
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: come from behind sort of situation to defend his title.

744
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 4: Strauss was clearly.

745
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: Better than he was in the first fight, after having

746
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: won the title in the two fight series with Current

747
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: and getting a taste of being at that super elite

748
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: level and coming off that knockout of Wilcox.

749
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: He came to take this title. He had to believe though.

750
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: He had to kick himself for many things, Luke, you know,

751
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: getting tapped out in that spot when he had such

752
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: a big round earlier Strauss and losing that point for

753
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: the three kicks to the cup earlier where it's like, man, things,

754
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: I mean, he was so close in this but at

755
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: the same time how close he was able to lose.

756
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: This showed you how dramatic Piple can be when he

757
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: needs to hold onto his belt. This was the first.

758
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: If the Current win was the first.

759
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: Sort of complete yes, He's Superstar Elite, This was the

760
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: He's Superstar Elite special with an asterisk, because you can

761
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: find an avenue to victory when it didn't seem like

762
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: there was one.

763
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: I think ah BC and I were talking about this

764
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: show before we filmed it today and we were saying, well,

765
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: I asked him like, what did you think was like

766
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: the turning point? And BC rightly thought, just like I did, Well,

767
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: there is no one turning point, but you can see

768
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: a few turning points along the way where he becomes

769
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: something different.

770
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it.

771
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: See the first time he goes against Kerran, and the

772
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: first time he goes against Warren he barely loses, right,

773
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: just barely. But the second time he has this big challenge,

774
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: now the third, if you want to call the second

775
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 1: Strauss fight this, that's when he shows you he is

776
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: not barely better, a lot better, I mean, really leaving

777
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: no doubt about Current, leaving well some doubt about Strauss,

778
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: but still coming out there.

779
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: No doubt because he had a rally, certainly some.

780
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Doubt, but in the end showing incredible durability and composure

781
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: under fire.

782
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: Again, we don't ever talk about that.

783
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: People all say, oh, well, no one likes to get

784
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: pun in the face, right, but some people handle it

785
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: better than others. No, Gara acts like he's brushing his teeth.

786
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: He didn't care about your punches.

787
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: Ah Lesner.

788
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: He could be in peril from a jab in right.

789
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: I mean brought. Lezard has a poor reaction to it.

790
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: Pitbull had a he got dropped, but in terms of

791
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: his composure towards the fight, he didn't lose any well.

792
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: Luke Pitpoll's career in his ARC has been so much

793
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: fun that it's not going to be long before we're

794
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: talking about the third Strauss fight that turns to momentum.

795
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: But that's why I'm saying, before we get there. Look,

796
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: he did come back five months after the victory over

797
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: Straus to defend his title, and you've got football against

798
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: Daniel Weischel, who is no one to be messed with.

799
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: Here at Beltur one thirty eight June nineteenth, twenty fifteen.

800
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: This is where you get another one of those insanely

801
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: awesome highlight reel moments, and you were there, was in

802
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: Saint Louis, Missouri.

803
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: I was there.

804
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: I was cage sided for this one, and I'll tell

805
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: you what happened was kind of interesting in this fight.

806
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Weischel has an interesting career. I think he's today

807
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: forty and twelve. He fights, but I don't know when

808
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: this is going to air, but he has fought for

809
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: showtime recently.

810
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: But the point being says.

811
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: To he had fought all the very best fighters that

812
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: Bellator could ever find for this guy, and maybe he

813
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: didn't beat them, but he put them all through their paces.

814
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: And he was on a seven fight win streak entering

815
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: this fight, with Pitbull having won all four of his

816
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: Bellatore appearances up to that point, including two by submission.

817
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: So this was a red.

818
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: Hot guy, probably at the early peak of his career

819
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: and before he retooled and came back.

820
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: But so this was I'm glad you brought that up,

821
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: because that's what's so funny about this. The week of

822
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: that fight, the narrative this is when, by the way,

823
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Pitbull was getting I'm not gonna say too big for

824
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: his briches, we see, but as the kids might say,

825
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: he was feeling himself a little.

826
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: Better learn a couple of English words. He's not doing

827
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: the English interviews like he is now. I'll give them

828
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: a lot of credit, but he's catching on to the

829
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: slang and he's talking culous.

830
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: That he was on a high from some of those wins.

831
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: And we all had thought that Weischel was well rounded,

832
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: could wrestle good submissions, as you mentioned, and was a

833
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: competent striker like not some.

834
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: Chump, but not on the level of Pitbull.

835
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: And so what happens the round is competitive, it's back

836
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: and forth, but Viischal great movement level changes, mixing up

837
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: the wrestling, and right at the end of the first

838
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: round up against the fence, not only hits Patricio Verne

839
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: with a series of punches that hurt him, I mean

840
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: really hurt him to the point where Big John McCarthy,

841
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: who was refing that contest, when the bell sounded, he

842
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: wanted to see that Pitbull BC could even walk back

843
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: to his corner.

844
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 2: He was so badly hurt.

845
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: But yet at thirty two seconds of round two we

846
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: would get a knockout finished.

847
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 4: From pit Bull.

848
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: That tell me, seriously, tell me a better on his

849
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: knockut real, tell me a better.

850
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I mean about big power with

851
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: this kid.

852
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: So obviously Patricio has a minute to recover, which, depending

853
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: how badly you hurt, is not much. I thought Viischal

854
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: had at least in theory, we se the right game plan,

855
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: which was I almost finished this guy. I was maybe

856
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: five seconds, three seconds from putting him completely away, but

857
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: the bell saved him. So you get the minute he

858
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: comes back out, he wants to get right back in

859
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: Pitt Bull's face, and to his credit, he was landing

860
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: on him. I was right, so Patricio's back was to

861
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: my left when I was sitting there on the cage

862
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: and I saw Vichal bang bang, I mean going.

863
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: To absolute work on him.

864
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: But the problem is he got sloppy and planted his

865
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: feet for one second and he got hit. I keep

866
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: going back to a dude, Patricio Fredy has maybe the

867
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: best left hook in the business, wings one around the

868
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: corner and drops him nearly cold.

869
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: I've always said the best punch in Belator history is

870
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: the punch that Michael Chandler used.

871
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: To knock out Patricio.

872
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: Pipple's brother, Patricky eighties adult film mustache, and it was

873
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: just one of those. But this one is in that

874
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: ball that's in the category. It's in that ballpark. There's

875
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: a violent finish. I mean, if you have to show

876
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: somebody one highlight of what makes pipple great and you

877
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: choose the Daniel Weischel knockout, that's about it.

878
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: And honestly, dude, you don't see fighters get pushed to

879
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: that brink and usually fight back out of it. Usually,

880
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 1: if you're as badly hurt as Patricio, you might hang

881
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: on and find a way to last the round and

882
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: lose a decision, but mostly you're probably gonna get stopped.

883
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: You're certainly not going to win.

884
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: But when you've got clubbing power and again composure under

885
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: fire in the way that he does, that one punch

886
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: was all all he needed.

887
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: Of course, I think he walked over. He may have

888
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: landed one more, but that was it. Dude. That was

889
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: a not just a credible opponent.

890
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: You want to talk about wrestling victory from the jaws

891
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: of defeat, you have to have the kinds of skills

892
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: and intangibles that Patricio has.

893
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: And that's two fights in a row that he had

894
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: to do that, so he's the champion, but his fights

895
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: are incredibly excited excited, sorry, exciting, because not only could

896
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: he finish anybody any point, but sometimes he has to

897
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: finish people in rally and do it. But yet five

898
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: months later, this is the fight of the rivalry with

899
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: Daniel Strauss, the third one that made it a legendary robbery. Luke,

900
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 3: First of all, why do we not talk about this series,

901
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: these four fights on the same level that we even do.

902
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: Let's say Josh Thompson and Gil Melendez of Strikeforce, Yes,

903
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: great trilogy. Grey Maynard and Frankie Edgar of UFC another

904
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: great trilogy. Those are one of our early go tos.

905
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: If you bring up what's the best rivalry my history? Like, oh,

906
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: that one?

907
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: That one?

908
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: Why do we not put piople in.

909
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: His people don't people don't know shit people have people

910
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: did not watch and Austin listen, there's another reason for it, right.

911
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: One is that it took place outside the UFC, which

912
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: by itself is not a reason to ignore it. I'm

913
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: just saying sometimes it goes that way. But the other

914
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: one is like Daniel Strauss, you know, he quit fighting

915
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: and he's had a.

916
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: Series of legal troubles. And here's the other part. PC.

917
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: You know Patricio won three of them.

918
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: I mean that's a fair point.

919
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: You know they were all all of them were except

920
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: for the last one. They were all super super competitive.

921
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: But Patricio really was the dominant fighter given the series.

922
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: But not this time. B see, this would be the time.

923
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, from the word go from the

924
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: opening bill this he faded a little bit down the

925
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: stretch and I was in that fifth round watching like,

926
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: oh my god.

927
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: But he wouldn't stop coming back. We'll get to that.

928
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 4: He would the champ, would not stop letting let's start

929
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 4: and give me the credit.

930
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: He when that opening bell rang, he put it on.

931
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: And this is what I'm talking about.

932
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: If there's one thing great that Strauss did in this

933
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: rivalry was constantly give different looks to Pitbull to make

934
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: him have to adjust and always and seemingly always be

935
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: a step behind. This is the biggest and best win

936
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 3: of Strauss's history, even though he had been the champion

937
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: before against Jeff Current in their two fight series. It

938
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: comes at Beltro one forty five, November six, twenty fifteen.

939
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: Did I'm yeah pack k Jeffkerns's cousin gonna constantly screw

940
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: that up and probably call them brothers one of their cousins.

941
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: But here we go, Luke.

942
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: This was for the title and this would go down

943
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: as a five round unanimous decision win for Daniel Strauss.

944
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: But to your point, as it started, the movement from

945
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 3: Daniel Strauss was different. It wasn't the technical defensive movement

946
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: that he showed to open up the second fight. This

947
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: was I'm gonna come forward, duck your shots, and come

948
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: back with heavy combos.

949
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: He was going for it in this.

950
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: One, absolutely going forward. Landing had left hand over and

951
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: over again.

952
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: Have Patricio ducking dodging like it was dodgeball duck, dodge,

953
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: dive dodge, whatever the other thing is. I had him,

954
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: By the way, you don't see Patricio up against the

955
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: fence a lot unless he's in a bad spot. You

956
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: saw him against the fence in the viceal fight. You

957
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: saw him up against the fence a lot early on

958
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: in this contest because he was under such it was

959
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: just raining Daniel Strauss punishment on him and he was

960
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: kind of lost.

961
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: I would actually argue the first couple of rounds he

962
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: was just a little bit not sure even what to do,

963
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: which you don't characteristically.

964
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: See that for a guy like Pitbull.

965
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 3: If you want to know where Strauss had gone since

966
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: losing to pit Bull in the second fight, he had

967
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: submitted Henry Carrels in the second round. And that's back

968
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: in a much more prime Henry Carrels, who was a

969
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: tough out.

970
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, certainly at that tough out, but he's

971
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: a little more shot on this one.

972
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: But he comes into this one and he's walking them down.

973
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: There's a key sequence I believe in it was in

974
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: round two that's amazing where it almost seems like Pitbull

975
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: misses a one to two combo on purpose and then

976
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: instantly reaches down to go for the single leg.

977
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: Takedown gets it.

978
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: Strauss rolls out of it, and as he's getting up,

979
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: he hits Pitpole with a flying knee to hurt him. Yes,

980
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 3: that's an insane.

981
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: Trouser Again, Dude, Again, a lot of people don't know

982
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: who Danel Strauss is just an excellent athlete, so gifted

983
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: a bit of a guy who at a wrestling background.

984
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: I think that's what was the true case.

985
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: I entered a person a couple of times, but his

986
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: contributions to mixed martial arts have been totally lost, And

987
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: you're right he showed in this one not merely athletic

988
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: skills and wrestling skills, but like the kind of courage

989
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: to try low percentage things on the fly.

990
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: And if that sequence wasn't enough to be awesome in

991
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 3: one of the high points of their rivalry. Within ten

992
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: seconds later, Luke, we get a big one tube combo

993
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: from Strauss that would drop Pitbull, which was an eye opener.

994
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: Right there. Strauss goes in, lands some ground and pound

995
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: pit Bull, stands him up.

996
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Pitple applies the armbar attempt.

997
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 3: Strauss then picks pit Bull up, yes, and nearly spikes

998
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: him on top of his head like it's androge and Rose.

999
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: I mean, that was some intent shit right after that.

1000
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one clear advantage you saw that previously pit

1001
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: Bull had was much better jiu jitsu.

1002
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: So Strauss is not gonna You're not going.

1003
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: To beat Pitbull at Pitbull's jiu jitsu game.

1004
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: Just slam the fucker on the.

1005
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: Back of his head. He didn't get spiked, but he

1006
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 4: got slammed.

1007
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: With the point being is that was to me, Daniel

1008
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: Strauss showing I'm going to do every single thing it

1009
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: takes to win. I can't I can't not make mistakes.

1010
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: I can't not be I can't be better than him

1011
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: at jiu jitsu. But I'm going to find a way

1012
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: around that problem. And he really kind of checked all

1013
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: the box.

1014
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: So he took chances, which was Keith Strauss. He also

1015
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: disguised his attacks in ways that he wasn't doing more

1016
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: more feints, more setups.

1017
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 4: It was just a different Strauss altogether.

1018
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: His boxing in round four was tremendous because Pipple's trying

1019
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: to rally in round four.

1020
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 4: Pippole's great at when he's on the wrong.

1021
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: End of a big moment, knowing that it's these momentum

1022
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: changes that end up swaying close rounds.

1023
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: A couple of big punches can change the whole thing.

1024
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: But Strauss kept him away until we get to the

1025
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: fifth and this is when pitpull was landing again.

1026
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: With two minutes ago, He's putting it on yes to

1027
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: the point.

1028
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: So the point now we talked about who's back was

1029
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: against the fence.

1030
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 2: Dude.

1031
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 1: Now I was watching this to myself being like, oh

1032
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: my effing god, because now Daniel Strauss is shelling up.

1033
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: Now Daniel Strauss is having to defend takedown attempts. Now,

1034
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: Daniel Strauss is just sitting here eating punishment.

1035
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: And this is the point about pit Bull.

1036
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, if you're covering up and you can't

1037
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: see what he's throwing.

1038
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: This is not the average featherweight.

1039
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: This is a guy that has in this division one

1040
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: punch ko power. You thought at any second the floor

1041
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: was gonna collapse here, but to Strauss's credit, he found

1042
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: a way to hang on.

1043
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: So Pippole is finished. He finished this fight the fresher fighter,

1044
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: the fighter, the aggressor, or the guy late. Even though

1045
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: Pipple loses this fight by unanimous decision and loses his title,

1046
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: and it's another elite level key loss, like consistent to

1047
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: the theme, he learned so much from this fight, and

1048
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: I think, unlike those other ones, again, he's the fresher fighter.

1049
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: He sort of figured Strauss out. Even though he lost

1050
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: this fight, and Strauss deserves to have won it. It

1051
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: was as if Pipple figured him out a little bit

1052
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: too late.

1053
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: At a little Tyson Fury Dante Wilder.

1054
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: Ish exactly, a little Reguard exactly. So now you've got

1055
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: the belt in Daniel Strauss's hand and we only get

1056
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: a one fight bounce back here for pit Bull, and

1057
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: that's against Henry Corrals and he himself gets a second

1058
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: round submission win at Belltour one fifty three.

1059
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: And it was quick.

1060
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: As soon as he locks up the guillotine. It was

1061
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: an arm in guillotine. He sits for it, but I

1062
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: think he was in both cases he was getting pressed

1063
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: against the fence, sits for it, and Corrals tapped almost immediately.

1064
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: The torque on pit Bull's choke at that point was.

1065
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: It was one thing you should look for if you

1066
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: guys go back, and I guess the team's going to

1067
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: add highlights to our commentary.

1068
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: Here.

1069
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: Watch how the bicep of Pitbull sits just on the

1070
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: back of the head, high on the neck, low on

1071
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: the back of the head, and watch how he just

1072
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: drives it down. There was nowhere for Henry Corrals to go,

1073
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: so that tap was good, again, by the way, showing

1074
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: a diversity of skills, because Henry Corrales is a bit

1075
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: of a banger. Maybe pit Bull's better, but that's kind

1076
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: of a much more dangerous way to go. Pitbull now

1077
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: making smart decisions and becoming so dangerous as a finisher

1078
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: that yes, he probably could beat you on the feet,

1079
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: but if you give him any reason to snatch a

1080
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: neck or a limb, he can do that too.

1081
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: Now I believe Daniel Streuss gets hurt at this point

1082
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: as the champion because.

1083
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: Left hand was having constantly.

1084
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: He doesn't fight again before the next pit Bull fight

1085
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: and pitpll gets the submission win over Henry Colloles. But

1086
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: then Pitbull takes kind of a long break for himself and.

1087
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: What he's used to. He had fought in April. I'm sorry,

1088
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: you know, he only took a four month break.

1089
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: He's getting back like crazy, and he moves out to

1090
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: lightweight because the reason why he moves to lightweight, does

1091
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: me bringing it home, is that because of Strauss's injury,

1092
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: he's got to kind of wait for him to come

1093
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: back and get.

1094
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: That title shot.

1095
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 4: So his stay busy idea.

1096
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: And this is the beginning of that daring to be

1097
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: great attitude which would finish with him as a two

1098
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: division champion.

1099
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: And as we record this, he's.

1100
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: Even talking about maybe going down to Banham weight one

1101
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: day and trying to win the one thirty five title.

1102
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: Is when he steps up into these big moments he's

1103
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: as equal to where he needs to be against Benson Henderson,

1104
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: your former UFC lightweight champion, who had not yet begun

1105
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: that slide. This is only August twenty six, twenty sixteen,

1106
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: so Henderson's still not the hot free agent who came over,

1107
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: but he's at a much more fresher version of himself.

1108
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: At a bare minimum, he wasn't fighting Koreshkov at one

1109
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: seventy right.

1110
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: Bellator one sixty, Anaheim, California, Luke in twenty sixteen, and

1111
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: you got Pitbull dropping the big lightweight early in this.

1112
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: One, right.

1113
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: So again, I mean, look at what his power does

1114
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: at one forty five.

1115
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: You've seen it. Now.

1116
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Chandler fight in just a second,

1117
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: but now you've seen it demonstrably. Here are guys at

1118
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: one fifty five, by the way, guys in the case

1119
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: of Benson Henderson, known for taking damage and being able

1120
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: to march right through it, feeling the power of a

1121
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: guy like Patricio Freddy.

1122
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: But more than that BC when he.

1123
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: Was on his back, he could get to his back

1124
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: when he wanted to grapple and take the dominant position,

1125
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: he could he was pushing. I mean, Benson Henderson was

1126
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: I would argue uncharacteristically defensive this time not by accident, though,

1127
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: but because Patricio was on him a step ahead.

1128
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: Patricio was skimmington, he was more technical.

1129
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: He dropped him with that big right hand, but as

1130
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: he checked the kick with his left leg.

1131
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: This would come in the second round.

1132
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: Luke, he knew it was broken right away and it

1133
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: didn't take him long to just know that he couldn't continue.

1134
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: It waved it off and it goes down.

1135
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: As a TKO victory via leg injury for Benson Henderson.

1136
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 4: So it's a freak loss.

1137
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: It's also the last time we would seeball pitple lose

1138
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: because he would go on an incredible run that has

1139
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: led him through the Featherweight World Grand Prix, and we'll

1140
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: get to the rest of that journey to get there.

1141
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: But this was very interesting because it was a moral

1142
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: victory in a lot of ways, because he looked better.

1143
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: He proved that he could play at one fifty five

1144
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: if he needed to. But he also had to continue

1145
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: to wait out Daniel Strauss, so this would be that

1146
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: longest stretch of his career sitting out. I had mentioned it.

1147
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: I alsost seek about Benson Henderson here.

1148
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: Remember he had the bad fight against Koreshkov where he

1149
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: just got absolutely demolished, and he'd had again, I think

1150
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: some moments of redemption along the way, but this, this

1151
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: fight against Pitbull, it looks good on the record to

1152
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: have that.

1153
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: But I'll distinctly recall at the time, the narrative.

1154
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: Was Pitbull didn't quite get the credit for that dominant

1155
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: first round that he deserved. People did score it for him,

1156
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: but it doesn't get talked about. What it gets talked

1157
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: about is that Benson barely beat a guy at one

1158
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: forty five and only did it through injury.

1159
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: So it was weird.

1160
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: It was like it was a knock on Henderson without

1161
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: it being a boost for Pitbull. Pitbull the moments of

1162
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: boosting and his resume, they've not been as visible or

1163
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: as fair as maybe they should have been, I guess

1164
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: up until recently.

1165
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: So the leg injury and the combination of Strauss's injury

1166
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: would keep Pippull out for eight months, which he is

1167
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 3: usually on the dot if he wasn't in the early

1168
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: tournament's fighting every month, he was every four months on

1169
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 3: the dot. But he would come back to defend I'm

1170
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: sorry to once again fight for his old title. This

1171
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: is Belatour one seventy eight and this is the fourth

1172
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: meeting of the pit.

1173
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 4: Bull Daniel Strauss rivalry.

1174
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: Strauss coming in as the defending champion Uncasville, Connecticut. I

1175
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: was also there. This was the only fight of the

1176
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: series that I was there for. Luke, what's the big

1177
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: takeaway after this incredible rive? We reached a new level

1178
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: with the third one for this fourth fight.

1179
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: You know, one of the reasons Pitbull is at the

1180
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: place where he's at is I don't want to say

1181
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: it's a tortoise in the hair scenario. That's a little

1182
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: bit of an exaggeration, but a guy like pit Bull,

1183
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: the reason the Henderson fight is kind of interesting to

1184
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: be se is because he is characteristically quite durable.

1185
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: He did have a.

1186
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: Couple of moments early in his career we had to

1187
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: take some time off, but in general he's been very active,

1188
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: very consistent, not having a lot of problems in the

1189
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: gym with how he has trained, what it's done to

1190
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: his body, at least up to this point. And in

1191
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: the case of Strauss, I think it was the exact opposite.

1192
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: I think you begin to have some law enforcement troubles

1193
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: at this time, but at a bare minimum. So I

1194
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: saw his hand. I was at the UFC Fan Expo

1195
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: and we had done a show there. I was with

1196
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: Serious XM oft the time, and I saw Daniel Strauss.

1197
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: What are those hats that you can wear, like if

1198
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: you're like fishing, but they have a three sixty bill,

1199
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about it kind of guards your

1200
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: face a little bit. And I was like Daniel Strauss,

1201
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: and I called out to him, and he came and

1202
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: sat on the stage and he showed me the scar

1203
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: on his hand from the surgery he had. He's had

1204
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: multiple surgeries on that one and at least reinfections and stuff.

1205
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna say it look like Alex

1206
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: Smith's leg, but it didn't look good, dude. It was

1207
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: this giant scar and it runs all the way through

1208
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: and you can see all the stitches and everything. He

1209
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: just wasn't the same guy anymore. And I don't mean

1210
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: to say that Patricio was the exact same. What I

1211
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: mean to imply is that again, their careers just kind

1212
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: of bifurcated up to that last one. Patricio's lesson, the

1213
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: lesson of his career is that he was not immediately great.

1214
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: He has become incrementally something that has added up to

1215
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: somebody really special. By the time they met on that night, BC,

1216
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: I think you would agree it was not very competitive.

1217
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: They were trains going in opposite direction, exactly because.

1218
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: This was a people who had learned from those previous defeats,

1219
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: as we talked about, and was coming off two in

1220
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 3: a three fight stretch, one of them being the freak

1221
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 3: leg injury. But he came back a patient counterpuncher. And

1222
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 3: that's interesting because I feel like there were moments where

1223
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 3: Strauss earlier in this rivel, he forced Pitbull to be

1224
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 3: the aggressor and he wasn't, and that's normally his natural makeup.

1225
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: But it was because Strauss was countering and kind of

1226
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: out boxing him that it became a problem. This time,

1227
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: Pipple was much more comfortable as the counter striker.

1228
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't let's go back real quickly. Let's keep

1229
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: it there for a second.

1230
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: Why because what was the game plan against different tactics

1231
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: but the same strategy. What was the game plan that

1232
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: Vissel had used. He put it on guy Pipple. He

1233
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: thought you cannot let a guy like Pitple come forward

1234
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: on you. You got to back him up. So Pitple said,

1235
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to learn how to strike

1236
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: backing up? Now, what are you going to do about it?

1237
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 4: That's a big that's a big turning point.

1238
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: And you saw that on display here, explosive with the

1239
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: counter right hand. He's not because he's not panicking or

1240
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: saying I've got to be more. I've got to win

1241
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 3: the judges, not by just being more you know, volume

1242
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: mis and sort of wasting shots.

1243
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 4: Because he's being more picky.

1244
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: It raises that danger level when he does land like

1245
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: a coiled cobra and strike. He was landing big right hands.

1246
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 3: You could see that he's just more confident. You could

1247
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: see the frustration on Strauss.

1248
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: Whether see everything coming at him and what decision he

1249
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: wanted to make about it.

1250
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: A very mature performance.

1251
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 3: So Strauss looks so frustrated by the start of round

1252
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 3: two that I think his frustration led exactly to the

1253
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: fight ending.

1254
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 4: He goes for another takedown attempt, but.

1255
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: You're seeing pipple stuff the takedown, and that stuff turned

1256
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 3: right into a guillotine and Luke, like we just said,

1257
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: if Piple is going to get his arms around you

1258
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: and commit to it. It's because he's got it. Look,

1259
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 3: this was almost like a violent choke. I mean, he

1260
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 3: put that shit on there.

1261
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: There was no doubt about it. It was like the Henry

1262
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: Corrals choke. Dude.

1263
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: Once he sat for it, Strauss was done for And

1264
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: it's just one of those moments that was maybe a thing.

1265
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: Maybe he could have done that before in the other

1266
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: fights p see, but I don't think he was mentally ready.

1267
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't even technically ready.

1268
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: But this is what I'm talking about, incremental good to

1269
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: the poor, where you have accumulated greatness. That is the

1270
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: story of Patricia Freday and that night dude that you

1271
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: can go watch this one on YouTube as well.

1272
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: He made it look like it was easy.

1273
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: You would have never guessed that that guy had put

1274
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: him through his paces three different times.

1275
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 3: Luke his immediate test after regaining the title now pipples

1276
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: a two time featherweight champion, is to do what he does,

1277
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: which is try to stay busy. He comes back in

1278
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: July twenty eighteen Beltoor two of three, a rematch with

1279
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 3: Daniel Weischel.

1280
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: Luke had everything.

1281
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: This one goes five rounds, though he handled him in

1282
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 3: the first fight. Although Weischel had big moments. How much

1283
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: was this a back and forth affair to start off

1284
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: the rematch?

1285
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one is this is not a one A

1286
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: lot of people have seen. Beltore two three took place

1287
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: in Italy. I don't even know what they This is

1288
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: what funny about Patricio, by the way, we just notes something.

1289
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: You start watching him, they're on ESPN two. Then you

1290
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: see the mat and it's esping to portex GUVV two

1291
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: and it's MTV two, and then it turns into Spike

1292
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: and then it eventually becomes the Zone and Paramount.

1293
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's funny.

1294
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: You can learn the story of Bellatore by watching the

1295
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: canvas in his fights throughout. But this one BC again

1296
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: a sort of lesser known one, although it is available online.

1297
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: It just had everything. But you had a guy like

1298
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: em a Mano Santo's. He had a guy like Daniel Weischel.

1299
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: I keep saying it. His resume has these ls that

1300
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: don't tell the full story. He had to me the

1301
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: right kind of mix in this one where he was

1302
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: trying to make sure that Patricio was that he was

1303
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: voluminous enough in his offense to put Patricio off of

1304
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: his game because he couldn't get going, but never to

1305
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: over commit to something to make some kind of mistake.

1306
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: But that's the way I would describe it.

1307
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 3: Weischel had one four in a row since the loss

1308
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: to Pipple the first time around. He'd be back around

1309
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: in the rankings to get himself up there. At the

1310
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 3: end of the day, though it goes down as a

1311
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: split decision title defense victory for Pitbull against Daniel Weischel

1312
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: in their rematch that's July of twenty eighteen. He'd come

1313
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: back in November in another important title defense. This will

1314
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: be the first meeting with Emmanuel Sanchez, this time in Israel.

1315
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 3: You and I have talked about this fight at length

1316
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: because it was ahead of the review for their rematch.

1317
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: You want to go back and investigate it, and what

1318
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 3: we saw there was that Sanchez was able to fight

1319
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 3: on equal terms and he went into the final round

1320
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: of this championship bout with the fight kind up in

1321
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 3: the air.

1322
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: And also think about something that he has faced. Does

1323
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanchez have better boxing than the pure the very

1324
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: best pat current Probably not. Does he have better wrestling

1325
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: and scrambling, Let's say, as he is good of an

1326
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: athlete and physically as fast as a prime Daniel Strauss.

1327
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: No he's not.

1328
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: But what does Emmanuel Sanchez at this point in time

1329
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: have that was pretty incredible and undeniable.

1330
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: A fricking motor, A motor he like.

1331
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: Marov Devolishpieley in UFC has the best motor in that

1332
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: organization far and away. Emmanuel Sanchez has the best motor

1333
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: in this one. And just by virtue of how consistently

1334
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: he can just stay in your face, forcing you to

1335
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: do work when you clinch up. Maybe he doesn't get

1336
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: to take that, but you're constantly defending. Maybe the punches

1337
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: don't land, but they're coming. You got to do something

1338
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: about them. That puts you on the back foot. And

1339
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: eventually the waves keep crashing into the wall, they will

1340
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: eventually break it. And so you see, he does have

1341
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: moments where he's able to hurt Pitbull a little bit,

1342
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: he's able to land, he's able to outwork him. This

1343
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: was a close one all the way through.

1344
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: I mean, pipple is not the key. The real fun

1345
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: part about rewatching his fights is now he's in control

1346
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: of the key momentum spots in this fight.

1347
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 4: But he's got to get through these fights.

1348
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: He's got to get through really tough fights and take

1349
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 3: damage and sometimes after rally. That's what makes his career

1350
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: so fun is it's not all perfection and dominance. He

1351
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: can blow guys away who aren't on his level, but

1352
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: when he fights his meets his match, he'll show his

1353
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: vulnerability just because he gets in there going to win.

1354
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 4: When you go try to win a.

1355
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 3: Fight as often as pit Bull does, you put people

1356
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 3: don't realize you do, put yourself on the edge of danger.

1357
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: That's why you celebrate the.

1358
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: Fact that he's got that championship backbone, the chin, the motor.

1359
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 3: What we're learning now as he becomes a more mature fighter,

1360
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: the ring IQ which is certainly growing in him. You

1361
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: can see his game planning with Eric Alberossin and you can.

1362
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: See he's got he's also got more skills to be

1363
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: able to make a more diverse game plans and what

1364
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: he shows.

1365
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: Us though consistent with the beginning, maybe maybe the Joe

1366
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: Warren fight was was he had need to learn a

1367
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: lesson when he faded in around two to three. Outside

1368
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 3: of that Joe Warren fight, we're always seeing pit Bull

1369
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: as the fighter who's peaking in the key moments this

1370
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: Manuel Sanchez fight came down to round five, pit Bull

1371
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: fricking peaked and he put it on Sanchez and buckled him,

1372
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 3: and really it almost.

1373
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 4: Stopped him against the fence.

1374
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: So yes, you can come out of that with the

1375
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: narrative of Dan Sanchez pretty good, man.

1376
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 4: Is you know Pitple could be beat. You also have

1377
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 4: to have.

1378
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 3: To stand in there in round five and actually get

1379
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: the better of him if you want to take a

1380
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: decision against and also the one, and that's something Sanchez

1381
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: couldn't do.

1382
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, more importantly, I think you could even not even

1383
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: I think you have to say at this point, like

1384
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: when you look at the totality of pit Bull's career

1385
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: and pieces of the puzzle like this one, dude, if

1386
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: you have him hurt and you don't get him out

1387
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: of there, your window has closed. Like, Okay, maybe he

1388
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: lost to Warren or to the first time, to Current

1389
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: or whatever, and Straus got a day there, but in general,

1390
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: the second time y'all meet, you're not getting the same guy,

1391
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: not even close. And the things you did the first

1392
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: time that worked, they're not going to be there at all.

1393
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: And so for guy like.

1394
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: Sanchez, pushing pit Bull was admirable and in fact interesting

1395
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: that you could do that kind of a thing.

1396
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: But the lack I mean.

1397
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: Los Sanchele's's problems in this fight and the other ones

1398
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: is this is a little bit of a lack of

1399
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: finishing ability. That's not at all the problem with Patricio.

1400
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: I think in the end that's what made the difference.

1401
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: So it goes. Look, it's a big title defense for

1402
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: Patricio and it's kind of so big, and he's sort

1403
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: of at this spot now as the two time featherweight champion,

1404
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: but everyone they put up against him, he's finding a

1405
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: way out or if he lose to them like he

1406
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 3: did against Current or Strauss, he would always win the war, right,

1407
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: he always win the full rivalry. He's starting to look

1408
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: around at the other options out there to him Patricio Pitbull,

1409
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 3: and he finds a potential opportunity to.

1410
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: Move up once more to lightweight.

1411
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: We'd seen him in a brief cup of coffee against

1412
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 3: Benson Henderson and they looked great before the freak injury.

1413
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: Now he's going to go for the full champion. Chandler

1414
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 3: at this point is on the second of the three

1415
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: runs he would have as lightweight champion, I'm.

1416
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 4: Sorry, No, this was the third of the three.

1417
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, just had to be the end.

1418
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: This was the end. He had lost the fight to

1419
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: Brent Primus on a kind of a should have been

1420
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 3: an injury stoppage, and.

1421
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: I won't call it like I mean, that was a

1422
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: legitimate win because he did get kicked in the perennial

1423
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: nerve and accounts, but he couldn't duplicate it with a

1424
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: second try, which sort of tells you that that was

1425
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: a difference on the building.

1426
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 3: So the run Chandler had gone on like this wasn't

1427
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: the guy that fought Eddie al Alvarez and two sloppy.

1428
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: This was the face of military, right. This was the

1429
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: most exciting guy in military.

1430
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 4: It's not just that he's the biggest name.

1431
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: Most exciting is in the David Buster's commercials.

1432
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 4: He's the guy for them.

1433
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: It's the fact that this run he went on, when

1434
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 3: he went three to zero after the loss to Primus,

1435
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 3: he gets a decision, went over Yamauchi, Go to Yamauchi.

1436
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 3: He submits Brendan Gertz by triangle choke, he puts him

1437
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: to sleep, and then he beats Premise in the rematch.

1438
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: This is like arguably Peak, the peak prime best version

1439
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: of him.

1440
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: And there's the emotional aspect.

1441
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: Patricio, Pippo's brother PATRICKI had fought Chandler for the title

1442
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: and had gotten destroyed by Ko. One that I talked

1443
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 3: about earlier is one of the most devastating one punch

1444
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: knockouts in the history of the sport.

1445
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I mean he remember he knocks him out,

1446
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: jumps on the fence and Patricio is in his face.

1447
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: Barking at him, and then you see Michael Chandler. I think,

1448
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: either do a throat slash or like your next.

1449
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: Or like you could argue who's at fall or who's

1450
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: you know rightfully, so either way, you don't poke this

1451
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: kind of bear. You don't get Pippule this piste off

1452
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: and make it about the family and give him that fuel.

1453
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: Listen, hold on.

1454
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean I watched all the Strauss wars and the

1455
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: Warrant fight. Even I thought Patricio might be biting off

1456
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: more than he could chew with Chandler. I remember the

1457
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: time I was like, that's a tough fight for Patricio,

1458
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: winnable but tough.

1459
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 4: We all kind of predicted Chandler by Ko or.

1460
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: I think so.

1461
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: But then well, this is what I mean, accumulated good

1462
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: becomes something really special over time.

1463
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: And there was expectations it would be a war obviously,

1464
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: but there was expectations that Chandler was just bigger. He's

1465
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: on a hotter run right now. I think more people

1466
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 3: were focusing on Chandler because he was the face of

1467
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: the franchise, and maybe weren't, to be honest here, maybe

1468
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: weren't watching every chapter of the Piple run in order

1469
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: and getting it because look, there they're brothers. They look

1470
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: like twins. Yeah, you know, patricky be on one week,

1471
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: the other Pip will be on the other people. I

1472
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 3: don't think we're in as in tune. Maybe because of

1473
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: the language, you know, or whatever else. He didn't have

1474
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: the star level that he has now. But I don't

1475
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: think people were watching as close to maybe realize what

1476
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: we should have realized.

1477
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also, you know, again, big portions of Patricio's

1478
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: career happened when Beltre was moving around and finding its footing,

1479
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: and that's not entirely true. I mean, he's had several

1480
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: years on Spike, but are just pointing out that, like,

1481
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways he kind of got lost

1482
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: in the shuffle where we should have known better, BC,

1483
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: we should have known better and we didn't.

1484
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: But you know what he did.

1485
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: If pit Bull's fight July thirty first against a J McKee,

1486
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: if this isn't hyperbole, and that's the biggest, the most important,

1487
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call that fight in terms of

1488
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: what it meant to what it's going to mean to

1489
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: belto a history and the finals of the Featherweight World

1490
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: Grand Prix. This is sort of the reigning champion of

1491
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 3: that argument at the moment right right, this fight where

1492
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 3: pit Bull moves up and wait faces the face of

1493
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 3: the franchise, has the opportunity, given where Pitple stood in

1494
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: the record books as that at this point in terms

1495
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: of most wins and all that kind of stuff. Two

1496
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: reigns of the title, this was what the same terms

1497
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: are going to be in the July thirty first one.

1498
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: You know, if I win, I'm the guy. Now I'm

1499
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: the face. I'm potentially pomp for pound number one in

1500
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: this under this banner, and you know, have an argument

1501
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: against the world.

1502
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 4: But it only lasted sixty one seconds.

1503
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: Rosemont Horizon Bellatore two, twenty one, May eleventh, twenty nineteen,

1504
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 3: and we always talk about how it ended, Luke, but

1505
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 3: you forget until you go back and actually watch the

1506
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: full sixty one seconds that Pipple's counter right hand was

1507
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: making it smart.

1508
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: VC and I were talking about this on the way

1509
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: to work this morning. We were watching it and we

1510
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: were saying, dude, okay, when you think about this fight

1511
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: and you've watched it, what do you think about You

1512
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: think about the punch landing over the top of Chandlers,

1513
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: him slipping off.

1514
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: His own punch that was incoming, and you debate the

1515
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: stoppage that's right, right.

1516
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: It was like was he there? But you know clearly,

1517
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: like you know, people landed a tremendous shot on him.

1518
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: You forget watch that thing from the beginning. He had

1519
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: him timed immediately. He landed that punch in different ways,

1520
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: some of them grazing, some of them not different locations

1521
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: several times already.

1522
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: That was just the one that closed the show.

1523
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: And Chandler didn't know a reaction that screamed something. But

1524
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 3: there's almost a subtle reaction that he showed, like very subtle.

1525
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: We're like, did the screen just like skip? Did I

1526
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 3: just see a little like a certain like oh, Damn

1527
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 3: this kid can like this guy can bang. I don't

1528
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 3: think honestly, it's not that he didn't know he had

1529
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: finished Patricky, Like he knows who these guys.

1530
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 2: Are, but he knew that. I interviewed him before that fight.

1531
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: And he even said to me he knew Patricia was

1532
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: better than Petricky, that he did not think he was

1533
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: getting the same guy.

1534
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: But even he I think he was like, fuck, that

1535
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: guy is way better than I thought he was.

1536
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 4: And then the punch came.

1537
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 3: It was a counter right hand just about a minute

1538
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 3: in and it hits Chandler behind the ear right about here.

1539
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 3: So it is kind of it's so it's legal, but

1540
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: when I say it's borderline, it's so close to being

1541
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: an illegal punch that if you can land it there,

1542
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 3: it's going to do monster damage.

1543
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: This is going to be an equilibic this but this

1544
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: is the point.

1545
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: Okay, he got a little bit fortuitous with the landing

1546
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: in the sense that it wasn't lucky and that's a

1547
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: vulnerable spot. Fair enough, But to me, if you can, dude,

1548
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: slipping a punch is hard.

1549
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we see boxers do it.

1550
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: You take it for granted, you know how long that

1551
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: skill take to learn for people who are boxing years

1552
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: before you can finally begin to time someone and get

1553
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: the movements where you don't get counter yourself.

1554
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: It's slipping is hard, It's very difficult to do. He

1555
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: is consistently slipping and then he times the punch over

1556
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: the top that way. Dude, to me, that was like

1557
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: he's the smaller guy that is a much better striker

1558
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: than Michael Chandler. In fact, before we.

1559
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: Get to the fallout of that punch, like by this point,

1560
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: Pippole has mastered how to be a complete fighter from

1561
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 3: He knows which guys I need to rush against and

1562
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 3: which guys I need to be patient against, like we didn't.

1563
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: That saviness was not there earlier in his career, and

1564
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 3: he knew that in this matchup against Chandler he was

1565
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 3: gonna have to rush him and throw show that threat

1566
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: of the jab, and that you know, that threat of

1567
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 3: the jab is probably what opened up that counter right

1568
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: hand hits him behind the.

1569
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 4: Ear, he goes down instantly.

1570
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: You got pipple, I would argue, just slightly though, I

1571
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: would argue that he did. To me, there's a little

1572
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: bit of a seesaw on this one where sometimes he

1573
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: was pressing in the Chandler. A lot of times he

1574
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: was letting Chandler come to him. Remember, in the end,

1575
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: it was a counter shot, slip puncher over the top.

1576
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: So he he understood sort of how to surf the

1577
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: waves and kind of balance a little bit.

1578
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: That's mean people taking.

1579
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: Fights with Strauss and in terms of in terms of

1580
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 3: negotiating distance and being able to control it like an

1581
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 3: agro restaurant.

1582
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 4: Learning the dance.

1583
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: That's a dance. Look, it's a footstep dance, and he

1584
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: learned it. So he lands some pretty savage quick ground

1585
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: and pound. But look, the more I watched the stoppage,

1586
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: I didn't. I never protested then because it was such

1587
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: an accomplishment to see people drop Michael Chandler and definitely put.

1588
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 4: Him in peril.

1589
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 3: Whether you can argue whether he was out or not,

1590
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 3: or was he kind of out. I mean he was

1591
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 3: in trouble, there's no question. But the more I watch it,

1592
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: I feel like it is a bit of a quick stoppage,

1593
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 3: Mike crazy, I do. I do.

1594
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: Here's my thing.

1595
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: Whenever I see there's a quick stoppage, A lot of

1596
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: times I'll try and pay attention to what the ref

1597
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: is zooing and with the body languages of the fighter.

1598
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: Okay, you can make an argument there.

1599
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 3: Is it Mike Beltron. I believe in this.

1600
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: It could have been Beltron. I have to go back

1601
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: and look.

1602
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: But the the thing for me is this, I've actually

1603
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: interviewed Michael Chandler a couple of times about that.

1604
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: He's never protested.

1605
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: Now you can argue he's playing the professional role here

1606
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to make a stink about a

1607
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: loss and make excuses, and that probably plays, if not

1608
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: the chief role, at least some kind of.

1609
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 4: Me Again, whether wherever he got caught I mean.

1610
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: My old Chandler complained about other things, he does it

1611
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: in a very professional, very thoughtful and usually he's right

1612
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: about it. By the way, he only complains when he's

1613
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: got a good case. The fact that he's never really

1614
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: complained about that, ever, it means something. Maybe he was

1615
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: a little dizzier than he let on from his body

1616
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: language too, you know.

1617
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 3: And I think, even though I do feel like it

1618
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 3: was a quick stoppage, he was going to finish him

1619
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: on the ground, like I had no doubt about that.

1620
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you get pipple on top of you at

1621
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 3: that page. I mean, and again that was a savage

1622
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 3: pace to try to force the stop.

1623
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: And again it wasn't just the punch that land to do.

1624
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: All the preceding ones got very very close. He had

1625
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: him timed right away, and.

1626
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 3: You know he was he was.

1627
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 4: It was like, what do you call that game?

1628
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: At the at the fair, I thought you're doing Collins

1629
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: and thee I can Yeah.

1630
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: So, I mean, this is incredible victory, Luke, because now

1631
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 3: we're not now we're okay, he has taken the mantle

1632
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 3: now his face to the franchise. But you're also like

1633
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: he's putting the other like an all time great career.

1634
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I don't know if we always realiz

1635
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't even know if we realize that right now.

1636
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: Let me ask you in terms of what he's accomplished.

1637
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you, see this win, maybe

1638
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: the second Strauss win, maybe the current rematch, which one

1639
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: has been his biggest leveling up performance.

1640
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 3: It has to be this because it's it's officially one

1641
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 3: division up, and that's a level up in physical terms.

1642
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 4: But Chandler at this point was awesome.

1643
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1644
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: From a person I'll say this from a perception standpoint,

1645
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: there's no level up like this one period. I will

1646
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: say from a competitive level up, I'm gonna say the

1647
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: fourth Strauss fight or the second Straus fighter, how you

1648
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: want to look at it, That's where I would point

1649
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: to us like the momentere You're like.

1650
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: Oh, there's many moments to his credit because the Joe

1651
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: Warren fight again, his first loss, is the only one

1652
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: where he didn't really have a great argument for the

1653
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,959
Speaker 3: decision because he was fading late. Yep, every other fight

1654
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 3: he had the bigger moments late where even though you're like, okay, yes,

1655
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: he lost to stress in their third meeting, and that's

1656
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: again a big part of what made this rivalry so great.

1657
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 4: Yet he's the guy coming on late.

1658
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 3: And finishing stronger, being like, you know, let's fight in

1659
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: the streets to the death right right. So where he's

1660
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 3: at after this Chandler thing is it's like he's writing

1661
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 3: his own tickets. So I love to call him the

1662
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 3: small weight classes vander Lay Silva because you know, they're

1663
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: Brazilian in they're warriors, and there is some level of

1664
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: comparison there. But am I wrong? Don't kill me here.

1665
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 3: He's going to accomplish more in the long run than Silva.

1666
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 3: Has where Silva will. He'll never be the beloved at

1667
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 3: like character in almost like sup movies villain.

1668
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 4: I mean, he's like a movie villain, right, So agree

1669
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 4: with that.

1670
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 3: There's a belovedness with Vonderlay that I'm not questioning, right, sure,

1671
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: but I think pipull Might is a better fighter and

1672
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 3: is going to maybe accomplishment.

1673
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: I think certainly people's a well, here's the difference.

1674
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 4: I mean we're a different eras too.

1675
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 2: You know, he's a different era. That's one of the problems.

1676
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: You know, Vanderlaid did incredible things in Japan, but it

1677
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: was like, you know, ten minute first rounds, and he

1678
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: fought Mark Hahnt and you could stomp on people, and

1679
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, he could sort of get away with swinging wildly.

1680
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: I'll say that vaderl was more openly feared and revered

1681
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: in his time. But I do think you're right when

1682
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: you compare the Brazilian's resumes in terms of like quality

1683
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: work over time.

1684
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: And this is again, go.

1685
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: That wasn't a skillful era where you had a lot

1686
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 3: of skilled guys. So I get the well Fi was

1687
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 3: really good at that time. I was the golden edge too.

1688
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: Five.

1689
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: I know what you mean though I do want to

1690
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: say this though, one thing about Patricio that just should

1691
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: not get lost is one of the reasons why he

1692
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: can be, you know, accumulatively great, is because he just

1693
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: has a resilience over time, Like where's Daniel Straups. He's

1694
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: even still in the sport anymore. I think he may

1695
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: have had law enforcement troubles. I don't wish that upon him,

1696
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: but he is not currently active on our radar.

1697
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: He fell apart. Pat Current kind of fell apart too.

1698
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: He was working the last time I interviewed him for

1699
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: one of his last beltar fights. He was installing air

1700
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: conditions and stuff. He was really moving on to his

1701
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: next Jeff Current three times in the show, and he

1702
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: was My point being is dude, Pitbull is still here,

1703
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: still relevant, still in good health as far as we

1704
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: can tell.

1705
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 3: And well was waiting for him to crack because he

1706
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 3: only really had that one hand injury and then the r.

1707
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: But but but here's my point, Like, dude, he's been

1708
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: this durable and this important and this lasting. He just

1709
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: it's not just that he's outlasted his competitors, but dude,

1710
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: to some extent, he's kind of just outlasted.

1711
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 3: Them, and he's getting like the great ones, seriously, like

1712
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 3: the great ones. He's getting better with age. I mean

1713
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 3: he's doing He's He's not better all the time than

1714
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 3: Jose although and I'm not making that comparison, but he's

1715
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 3: maturing at a later age and staying more relevant where.

1716
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: Early.

1717
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 3: But although it was still great after the Connor lost,

1718
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: there was still a window there where he was great.

1719
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: And then then he would just lean on the greatness

1720
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 3: to fall on the sword twice against Bettis And sorry

1721
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 3: it's Max Holloway, but Pipple is like number one pound

1722
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 3: for upon in belitor and arguably has a chance number

1723
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: one in the world in an argument right now at.

1724
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: The he is still on this trajectory, whereas Aldo has

1725
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: already peaked and it's sort of on the steady but

1726
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: still competitive decline.

1727
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 3: Now Pipple is going to turn thirty four, I believe,

1728
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 3: right around the right around this fight.

1729
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty close. We still have a few fights to go, though,

1730
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 2: No I'm not.

1731
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 4: I'm not closing up shop July seventh. He's going to turn.

1732
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: So by the fight thirty thirty four.

1733
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 3: So to still be this great late and to see

1734
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 3: the run he had to go to after the chandler

1735
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 3: when we start the Beltour by the Weight World Grand

1736
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 3: Prix sixteen man tournament and in the first round, Pippole

1737
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 3: at belter two twenty eight gets one Archiletta September of

1738
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen Luke in Inglewood a three round decision.

1739
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 4: And this was u there's no argument.

1740
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 2: That's five round.

1741
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, five round. This was dominant.

1742
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: This was absolute.

1743
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, he listen. I'll give one Archi Letta credit.

1744
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: You know who went down and won the Bandam weight

1745
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: title right after that, right, I mean, this was this

1746
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: is this is really a bansom weight fighter. I mean

1747
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: that's what he is. He was, to his credit, daring

1748
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: to be great against the guy like Patricio. God bless him.

1749
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: I really admire it. But dude, Patricio had his number

1750
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: in the striking department over and over. He could wait

1751
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: for a guy like Archieletto who's going to use movement

1752
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: and blitzes and whatnot and level changes in wrestling to

1753
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: really try and make his mark. And he tried. He

1754
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 1: tried for twenty five minutes. I give him all the

1755
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: cret in the world. I have a lot of respect

1756
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: for one archer Letta, but when it came to the

1757
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: striking talent and the pinpoint accuracy and the ability to

1758
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: intercept them moving the own it, he could not be

1759
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: beat on this night.

1760
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 3: It's a unanimous decision, as I mentioned. And but you

1761
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't see pit Bull back right away because then Corona

1762
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 3: hits Luke, it does, and that breaks up people's plans

1763
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 3: and that puts Look, this is a thirteen month layoff

1764
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 3: for Pitbull. He doesn't do this even, you know, except

1765
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 3: for when he broke his hand, like, he doesn't take

1766
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: this kind of time off. But he comes back in

1767
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 3: that second round last November of twenty twenty belat or

1768
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 3: two fifty two against Pedro Carvallo.

1769
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 4: And what was the bigger storyline.

1770
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 3: Coming in was maybe the team Pitpoll Brothers versus SBG

1771
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: Ireland rivalry that was in some play. But you have

1772
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 3: to admit there was some hipster talk to the idea

1773
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 3: that maybe because we saw pit Bull get tested by

1774
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 3: Manuel Sanchez through five rounds a couple of fights earlier, right,

1775
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: maybe Carvallo could could you know this is this is

1776
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 3: the peak moment in his career in terms of we've

1777
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 3: never seen him any better. Maybe this is a sort

1778
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: of an upset waiting to happen was that that wasn't crazy.

1779
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 3: There was a little whisky.

1780
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: Okay, are you asking me?

1781
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: Did I see that being banded about recklessly by Rubes? Yes,

1782
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: I saw that being recklessly abandoned.

1783
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: It was what is was.

1784
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 4: It was getting strung.

1785
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: But I think most of us knew Pedro had an

1786
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: uphill climb. Now, to Pagro's credit, in the lead up

1787
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: to this fight, he was talking a big game, and

1788
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: not in a kind of way where he was just saying,

1789
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: you know, insulting things.

1790
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he was bigging himself up. He really believed that.

1791
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 1: He was going to go in there and put hands

1792
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: on a guy like Pitbull and get his hand raised

1793
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: in an advance. I mean he was he was committed

1794
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: to the idea that he was going to do have

1795
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: a big night in his career. The problem was he didn't.

1796
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: He got hit with the combination with the last punch

1797
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: of which flattened him on the canvas. By the way,

1798
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: it did not look like he hit this dude. These

1799
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: guys look like they're not. They don't just when when

1800
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: Pitbull hits them, they don't fall to the canvas. It

1801
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: looks like gravity is slamming them to the canvas like

1802
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: the vical Ko came just the same where there's this

1803
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: massive head bounce that happens.

1804
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 2: This was exactly the same time.

1805
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 3: And Carlisle had won his six previous fights coming in here,

1806
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: he had been une bunned, eaten under the beltour banner.

1807
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 3: He had some power, he had some reputation. First round

1808
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 3: two minutes and ten seconds absolutely floored him and clear.

1809
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: To my lighte wok.

1810
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry to say that, but it was it was.

1811
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 3: It was dominant and easy. And then we get to

1812
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 3: the semi final bout and that would come in April

1813
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 3: of this year, April second Belatore two fifty five.

1814
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 4: Emmanuel Sanchez and Luke.

1815
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: We did video previews for it.

1816
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: We did a lot like this was a.

1817
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 3: Big fight because Sanchez in Tel Aviv a few years

1818
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 3: earlier had pushed him the five round limit, had had

1819
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 3: a chance entering the final round to sway the momentum

1820
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: and win on the scorecards. I really tuck myself into this.

1821
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: Emmanuel Sanchez had the wind streak, had the toughness, the pedigree,

1822
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 3: the training in the Great camp, like there were so

1823
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: many there were so many reasons to love his chances. Absolutely,

1824
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 3: there really was where you're like, Okay, maybe it goes five,

1825
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 3: maybe it's another split decision, maybe pitple hangs on, but

1826
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 3: you know by the skin of his teeth, but he's

1827
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 3: going to be tested, Luke, he wasn't tested.

1828
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: No, well, understand something lis't up the context here. Where

1829
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: was Emmanuel Sanchez coming into this fight?

1830
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: Now? What was the criticisms we had made it him?

1831
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: He's got a motor like nobody else, and he's kind

1832
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: of good at everything, but he didn't necessarily have some

1833
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: of those finishing abilities. He fights Georgie Kara Khani and

1834
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: he does decision him, but it was absolutely dominant. Then

1835
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: by the way he fights Tylan Claxton, he triangle choked him.

1836
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: There's your submission. And he fought Daniel Weischel. Here's the

1837
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: thing that one goes the distance. But he he beat

1838
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: up Daniel Weischel, I mean, which.

1839
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 4: He's not easy to do because what has been the

1840
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 4: thing was only done that for one. I was going

1841
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 4: to say VISal is a tough bastard. I mean that

1842
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 4: was not going to be an easy situation.

1843
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 2: And dude, I'll just say it out right.

1844
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: Emmano Sanchez beat him up like I could not believe

1845
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: what I was seeing. And there were several times where

1846
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: Vischel is rocked and he's the one that has to clinch.

1847
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I was so shocked by that.

1848
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: So what Sanchez, the Duke Rufus trained Sanchez are you

1849
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: getting by the rematch? You're getting the one that was

1850
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: kind of putting all the old criticisms to rest. You

1851
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: knew he could be there from five rounds. If it

1852
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: was a cardio question. You just wondered about the maturation

1853
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: of his game. Well, hello, it had arrived. And what

1854
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: does Pittbull do? Puts them away inside of a rap?

1855
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, he uses his finishing move. This

1856
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 3: is like pro wrestling, which you hate. Luca coming off

1857
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 3: the top rope with like an inverted some kind of

1858
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 3: frog reverse job had the worst one. Yeah, yeah, the

1859
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 3: leg drop was pretty lame. All that it cost him

1860
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 3: his hips. I mean, yeah, you're gonna you're gonna wear

1861
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 3: yourself out to and that all the time. Luke, he

1862
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 3: put the gaillotine on him, and we had this become

1863
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 3: a trend when he puts it on you, when he

1864
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 3: gets it. I mean the tour goes over the strength,

1865
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 3: it's over. The fight's over three minutes thirty five seconds.

1866
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 3: It was over. For all that talk about Emmanuel Sanchez.

1867
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 3: Pipule's that great luke. That's where he's coming in that

1868
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 3: version of him entering July thirty first, and again, can

1869
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 3: we double back on the biggest takeaway here, Pipple should

1870
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 3: be your favorite fighter of all time. This was an

1871
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 3: incredibly fun journey to go through fight by fight. Okay,

1872
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 3: I didn't watch enough. I should have watched the first

1873
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 3: White Vitel fight and watched all five rounds of that

1874
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 3: action at the same intensity that I did the Strauss rivalry.

1875
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 3: But every fight he's given you a story, you know,

1876
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 3: either a finish.

1877
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 4: Or a story.

1878
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: Right again, I want to I want to look. I

1879
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: want folks to make sure they examine this. He is

1880
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: climbing a ladder here and a couple of times he

1881
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: has to go a wrung down. But if you think

1882
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: about it, dude, he has just found ways over time

1883
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: through a I think an eleven year belateur career. He's

1884
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: been fighting professionally. By the way we's gonna point this out,

1885
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: he's thirty four years old. He's been fighting professionally since

1886
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Dude, he's he's an all time great.

1887
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: We're in the midst of it.

1888
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's.

1889
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 4: I'm not drunk on hyperbole. He's an all time great fighter.

1890
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: Again, he's the best fighter in this organization's history by

1891
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: a country mile. It is not particularly close. And then

1892
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: to do what he did to Emmanuel Sanchez, the most

1893
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: dangerous version of him, to snuff him out like he

1894
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: was a nobody, and he is not a nobody. You

1895
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: just it's hard, it's hard to comprehend. But the question

1896
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself is can a guy be

1897
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: this good for this long, this durable? And we know

1898
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: it can't last forever. So when does this train come

1899
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: to an end? Because BC, here's the impression that I'm

1900
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: getting by doing this exercise. You feel like he's peeking

1901
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: into something, right he is he is really at an

1902
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: all time high or in the world. The belief of

1903
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: aj McKee is he being set up for the fall?

1904
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 3: This is what's crazy about this Because I just got

1905
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 3: so high just a minute ago.

1906
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 4: I'm talking about how much.

1907
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 2: I love I've also been farting consistently and how much

1908
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: I love Patricio Fred's career and now his legacy, even

1909
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 2: though it's not over yet.

1910
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 4: Luke, and I'm like, you know what, he is an

1911
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 4: all time great?

1912
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 3: Am I being too hyperbolic? Well? You know what I

1913
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 3: can say about aj McKee if you want to get

1914
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 3: extremely hyperbolic. Is he kind of the closest thing we've

1915
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 3: ever seen the tiger woods of MA. You know, he

1916
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 3: hasn't fully cashed, so I didn't buy any means, but

1917
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 3: like just looking like a freaking natural. There's been very

1918
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 3: few guys. John Jones was one of them where at

1919
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 3: certain points in the rugs you're like, oh, this one's

1920
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,480
Speaker 3: this one right here, this one's special.

1921
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 4: Like that's just different.

1922
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1923
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 3: Aj M feels different, Luke, He really does.

1924
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: He does.

1925
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: You know what's funny about a j McKee is a

1926
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: lot of times i've had him in studio, we've had him.

1927
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: We talked to him at the Beltore media day, we

1928
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,759
Speaker 1: talked to him by the way at the Mayweather versus

1929
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,799
Speaker 1: Paul Wayne. He was cool, cocky, And you know what's funny.

1930
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: Every time somebody who is in the MMA industry who

1931
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: hasn't met him meets him, the thing they always come

1932
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: back to me and say is that kid's impressive. Yeah,

1933
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: that kid's impressive because they've know about him to look

1934
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: him up a little bit, look at his resume, like,

1935
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: God damn, he's undefeated. That kid's impressive, and he's got

1936
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: a certain swag and the youth to him that is

1937
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: just impossible to emulate. The thing I'll SAYBC is Tiger Woods.

1938
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I probably don't know about

1939
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: golf to make any kind of informed judgment about that.

1940
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 2: But if you wanted to, how do I say this?

1941
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: If you wanted to be maybe a little bit unfair

1942
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: to Patricio but not too far from the truth, you

1943
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: could say he's the new version of Patricio Frede, not

1944
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: that they have the same game, but the guy who

1945
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 1: built his whole identity through Bellatore, who cut his.

1946
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Speaker 4: Teeth an away. Yeah that's fair, except.

1947
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: Except unlike Patricio, he's never made the mistakes that cast

1948
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Speaker 1: him a win.

1949
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 3: They are different species, and that's part of what I know.

1950
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 3: That's weird talk, but that's part of what makes this

1951
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 3: matchup so great, is the style of contrast, the personality, contrast,

1952
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: where they are in their careers, all that, but there

1953
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 3: are two different species. Already ended up in the same place.

1954
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we don't know if A j

1955
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 3: mckey's going to walk this out how it started, but

1956
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 3: they both look like they could.

1957
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 4: Be great, which is why you're into this fight.

1958
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: I want to say to A j McKey listening. I

1959
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: know everyone's like, oh the Jinks again. Maybe we fucked

1960
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: Patricia here. I don't know, but I want to point

1961
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: out something too. Aj McKee is one of these guys who,

1962
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, I want folks to

1963
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: remember this video. And I'm being serious about this. I

1964
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: could be wrong. Maybe I'm jinxing this, but I don't

1965
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: think that I am. I do think aj McKee is

1966
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: going to blow up in some kind of way.

1967
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying this with the confidence of like shooe knight

1968
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 3: right now.

1969
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying I think he's going to blow up

1970
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 1: in some kind of way where not that we called it,

1971
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: plenty of people have called it. But I want folks

1972
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: to remember you shouldn't be surprised when he ends up

1973
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: being a big deal.

1974
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if he wins this fight, he will will be.

1975
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 4: And if you haven't checked.

1976
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 2: Out, then't have beaten this guy.

1977
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 3: If you haven't checked out the media teleconference that I

1978
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 3: that I moderated, and it's on YouTube. If you can

1979
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 3: go to Showtime Sports this page, you can go to

1980
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 3: Bellator's page and catch that. It's the two fighters Aj

1981
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 3: McKee and Patricio Pipple just talking junk most of the time,

1982
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 3: their coaches first and then the fighters. I was surprised

1983
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 3: they kind of got this personal. I was surprised that

1984
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 3: got this into personal, dude. And I was surprised that

1985
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: Aj McKee to our point to put to put a

1986
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 3: cap on it, like he looked not only comfortable in

1987
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 3: the deep end, he was the guy verbally, language difference

1988
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 3: all that, but verbally he's the guy who was bringing

1989
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 3: it to Pitbull. That was like a oh, okay, okay, listen,

1990
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 3: let's get the popcorn, Luca, Like this is gonna be.

1991
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: In the past, a great fighter could beat Pitbull. I

1992
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: don't think a great fighter can beat him anymore. I

1993
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: think it's gonna take a special elite fighter to beat

1994
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: him at this point. But it just might be the

1995
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 1: case that Age mcy's that guy. But still for today's purposes, BC,

1996
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: if you didn't know the story of Patricio Fred's career,

1997
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: if you didn't understand what made him special. Dude, we're

1998
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: talking about somebody who should go down in the record

1999
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: books as an all timer in term just in terms

2000
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: of forget about wins and losses, what he's given to

2001
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: fans and what he's tried to do.

2002
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 3: And he may be you know, it's different than avondor

2003
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 3: Le Silva, but he's carving out his own unique niche

2004
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: reputation and like love affair that I think people are

2005
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 3: finally catching on with and people are going to love

2006
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 3: what he brings to the table and savagery and like

2007
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 3: he looks like a movie character.

2008
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a badassletolut listen, dude.

2009
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 3: No, seriously, in terms of a man's man, he's like

2010
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 3: an absolute when he comes off.

2011
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: But he's on the stage and it's Pitbull and then

2012
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: it's BC and then it's me.

2013
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: There's one man, yes.

2014
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 3: But like there's a there's a presence there and you

2015
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 3: know what you know, you guys are no, Like it's impressive.

2016
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: He's he's he walks in with a certain air of

2017
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: confidence that is unmistakable, and he should look at what he's.

2018
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 3: Done and examin going up and again, going up and

2019
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 3: down and experiencing that journey over again. It has just

2020
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 3: been wild, So hope you enjoyed that as well. Luke,

2021
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 3: maybe you can just you know, I'm in.

2022
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 2: That's it.

2023
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who's I don't even know who's hosting it,

2024
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter.

2025
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 2: Thanks for watching.

2026
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: Thumbs up on this, hit subscribe button, and uh yeah,

2027
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: enjoy doing some homework on Patricia. If you missed some fights,

2028
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: thank you for watching resume review. Sorry if we've jinxed you,

2029
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: but I don't think we have because it's not real,

2030
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: but maybe we did.

2031
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 2: Who knows. Anyway, Until next time, enjoy the fights.

2032
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 3: Don't be afraid of the magic.

2033
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 4: Don't be afraid of it.