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Speaker 1: First of all, this is an exciting one for me.

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Speaker 1: My list of point guards that I always wanted to

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Speaker 1: play with, be a part of, or just be on

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Speaker 1: a team with, is Teresa Weatherspoon. And I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: and we are so happy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we forgot.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy and excited too. I got love for Tea Spoon.

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Speaker 3: I've seen her throw that thing up from half coarter

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Speaker 3: win the game, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you guys got me here. Let's punsh this thing.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it, let's do it out, you guys do it.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that when you first got to the w

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Speaker 1: n B A, who's the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 4: Nobody, nobody, You locking all that up?

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, And I believe everyone of them will

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Speaker 5: tell you, no, that's not happening.

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Speaker 6: Hey, look, this is the first person to tell you.

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Speaker 6: The opponents don't tell you no too, though, you know.

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Speaker 5: You know I'll give I'll give props to one who

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Speaker 5: I know was very, very very difficult to defend, and

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Speaker 5: that Cynthia Cooper Cool. She was incredible with what she does.

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Speaker 5: You know, she could shoot it, pass it, dribblet, rebound it.

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Speaker 5: She could do so many different things that made difficult

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Speaker 5: defenders on. But no, she's not gonna say she busts

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Speaker 5: my ass. No, it was an all out war out there.

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Speaker 3: Yo, yo yo. We live on location. We had to

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Speaker 3: do this one. Look, this was me and the blackest one,

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Speaker 3: one of our favorite all time hoopers period.

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Speaker 6: It don't even matter. You know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: You talking about a Gold Medalist a couple of times,

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Speaker 3: you're talking about a Hall of Famer. You're talking about

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Speaker 3: an n C Double a champ, You're talking about defensive

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Speaker 3: player year a few times. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: All type of type things going on. Man, we got look,

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Speaker 3: one of New York's favorites.

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Speaker 6: You feel me.

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Speaker 3: Everybody pull your tea spoons out in New York cities

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Speaker 3: in Texas.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. We got tea spoon in

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Speaker 6: the building.

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Speaker 3: Appreciation about our favorite players all time, presented by Hennessy.

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Speaker 1: Pineland, Texas. I always thought it was New York and

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Speaker 1: New York everything. Pineland, Texas. Tell us the transition from Pinelands,

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Speaker 1: Texas to New York.

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Speaker 2: How was that?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 5: It actually speaks for itself pine Land, where I'm from.

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Speaker 4: It speaks for itself.

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Speaker 5: Really really small, eight hundred and eighty two people, that's

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Speaker 5: how small it is. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows. Don't

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Speaker 5: go and look for a stop sign.

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Speaker 4: Stop like that.

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Speaker 5: You got about two or three stop signs and that's

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Speaker 5: about it. But it was an incredible transition. Work, hard work,

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Speaker 5: basically coming out of a hole, coming out of a

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Speaker 5: give you an opportunity. And I was given opportunity to

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Speaker 5: play at Louisiana Tech, and from there I just took

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Speaker 5: advantage of the opportunity, took it and just flew with it,

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Speaker 5: and an opportunity to play on the Olympic teams. And

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Speaker 5: from there your vision came to life to play in

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Speaker 5: America professionally. Then it came to life playing in WNBA.

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Speaker 5: The transition was just the game of basketball and the

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Speaker 5: growth from one stage to the next, high school, collegiately,

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Speaker 5: collegiately professionally, And that was what the growth was really

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Speaker 2: How did you fall in love with basketball? Like? Who

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Speaker 2: put that in? So you fell in love with who

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Speaker 4: My first love was baseball.

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Speaker 5: I was a better baseball player, I would say I

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Speaker 5: am a better.

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Speaker 4: Baseball player and basketball player. Softball my favorite sport.

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Speaker 5: Basically, my father was a baseball player. He played on

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Speaker 5: the minor league team for the Minnesota Twins, and he

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Speaker 5: was back and forth, you know how you go back

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Speaker 5: and forth, back and forth. But it was in the

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Speaker 5: day when you know, it wasn't acceptable as a black man,

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Speaker 4: But my father was incredible. If you look to.

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Speaker 5: This day and you look in the minor leagues, they

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Speaker 5: have him under as Chuck Witherspoon. Of course he's Charles Weatherspoon,

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Speaker 5: but Chuck Witherspoon, that's my father.

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Speaker 4: He still holds the record to.

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Speaker 5: This day of grand slams in one game. Still holds

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Speaker 5: the record with two grand slams in one game and

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Speaker 5: the third one hit the fence. I don't know who

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Speaker 5: was pitching, oh no, who was foolish the pitch to him?

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Speaker 5: But basketball, it was came after baseball played everything those

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Speaker 5: kids that your parents said, I got to put this

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Speaker 2: What made basketball do one?

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Speaker 5: Because I'm where I'm from and where I'm from, that

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Speaker 5: was the only sport that we as women were able

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Speaker 5: to play and in college. In high school, they weren't

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Speaker 5: going an allow us to play with the guys. I

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Speaker 5: could only play with the little league team.

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Speaker 2: That just like I've committed to be.

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Speaker 4: I committed myself to basketball.

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Speaker 1: Did you know anything about like other women players before

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I know. I knew about the women. I

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Speaker 5: we didn't really get to see him on TV. So

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Speaker 5: you really had to study the best way you possibly could,

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Speaker 5: and that was through encyclopedias.

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Speaker 4: At that time, that was through encyclopedia. I ain't heard

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Speaker 4: nothing about all that, man, That's that's where it was.

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Speaker 4: That's where it was all about.

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Speaker 5: So so my family would buy it so I could

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Speaker 5: study and know the history of it.

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Speaker 4: Because of course there goes.

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Speaker 5: In Myers, there goes Nancy Lieberman, of course came through,

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Speaker 4: So you had to really study it to know it.

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Speaker 5: And when I started studying, I started I said, now

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Speaker 5: I kind of like this thing, kind of like the sport,

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Speaker 5: and I just started to grow from there.

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Speaker 4: Actually start when I was four playing.

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Speaker 1: It high school When did you transition? And it was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this for this me, this is what I'm gonna go

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Speaker 5: I was a sixth grader. I was a sixth grader

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Speaker 5: and I got a chance to play. I hadn't played

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Speaker 5: and I always played with that raw rock, and I

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Speaker 5: just started to really push from there, and then I

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Speaker 5: started to had one of the greatest coaches who grabbed

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Speaker 4: It's kind of laid the law down. Her name was

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Speaker 4: Ritha Swindale, Retha Swindale.

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Speaker 5: She was really really tough on me, but with the silence,

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Speaker 5: tough with silence. I got kicked off the team got

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Speaker 5: I was bad.

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Speaker 4: You know I was bad.

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Speaker 3: Tell me how much being the youngest of six impacted

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Speaker 5: Probably the greatest thing that happened to me because I'm

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Speaker 4: I had to fight for what I wanted.

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Speaker 5: They were hard on me. My brothers were extremely hard.

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Speaker 5: Sisters were probably my greatest critics, so they were really

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Speaker 4: So I got to see.

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Speaker 5: My yes, it's my nose, my pros, my cons from

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Speaker 4: And that's where it all kind of stem from.

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Speaker 6: From me.

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Speaker 5: Everything about me starts in my house. Everything nothing starts outside.

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Speaker 5: It starts inside my home of where I learned everything.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely everything and toil this very day is still the.

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Speaker 1: Same that passion you had that started in the house.

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Speaker 1: I always loved your passion. One of the most things

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Speaker 1: I love about you is your passion. But you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes your passion kid rubbed off on the wrong way

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Speaker 1: You being on the team and seeing what you do, Yeah, that.

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Speaker 4: Was really hard.

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Speaker 5: That's really hard because a lot of times, being as

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Speaker 5: it as I want you to be best you. I

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be the.

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Speaker 4: Best met out here.

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Speaker 5: I don't give a damn if nobody likes it. I'm

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Speaker 4: I got you.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. When I see you, I

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Speaker 1: I see somebody that can lead the team, somebody I

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Speaker 1: the best position possible. When did you know, like, man,

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Speaker 1: every team I play on, I don't care if it's

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Speaker 1: the YMCA League, I don't care if it's the w

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Speaker 1: NBA Championship. I don't curve. It's with the fellas. I

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Speaker 1: me to be the leader every single time. When did

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Speaker 1: you you accept that role and know that I can't

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Speaker 1: do nothing but be a leader everywhere I go.

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Speaker 5: You know what happens is when you're a leader, you

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Speaker 5: like you're on an island by yourself. Yeah, out there,

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Speaker 5: it's like it's a lonely place to be sometimes. And

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Speaker 5: I felt that a lot. I felt that a lot,

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Speaker 4: I wanted to push you.

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Speaker 5: I wanted you to think whatever that challenge was before you,

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Speaker 4: Never get hurt.

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Speaker 3: Tell me, you say your coach was tough on you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can directly relate to that because like, do

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Speaker 6: That was more motivation.

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Speaker 3: Like you say, not to let my family down and

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Speaker 3: like all right, number one, you're puzzle, whoop your asses?

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Speaker 3: Like number two, like you don't want you know what

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Speaker 1: That Absolutely could have been anybody else but Louisiana Tech I.

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Speaker 5: Was and highly recruited. I wasn't highly recruited at all.

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Speaker 5: And that was motivation for me.

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Speaker 7: Now it was a number one player when you Kim

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Speaker 7: Monkey was known more world while, but Shrey Miller was

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Speaker 5: Girl let's just say it from what it really is.

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Speaker 5: And I have a great deal of respect for her.

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Speaker 5: And once she brought to the women's game to grow

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Speaker 5: it the way that she did. But at the time,

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Speaker 5: the University of Texas basically it.

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Speaker 6: And it was a.

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Speaker 5: Decision for me to make University of Texas a little

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Speaker 5: I get the Louisiana Tech and I was like, it's

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Speaker 4: I like it here, and I love the tradition.

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Speaker 5: I love the tradition and the work that they put

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Speaker 2: You got Kim Monkley.

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Speaker 1: She wanted them highly recruited players, and she won the

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Speaker 2: Like how was that? This is what it was.

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Speaker 5: Kim had just left, that was her senior year. She

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Speaker 5: Karl Malan. Carl Malan brought me into Louisiana Tech, and

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Speaker 5: when she left, I came in as next point guard

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Speaker 4: And that was tough.

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Speaker 6: Right now, I got to try to come.

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Speaker 4: In and do what she did for four years.

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Speaker 6: She took them.

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Speaker 5: To the final point. When I tell you she was

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Speaker 5: very good at what she does. She's very good. And

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Speaker 5: I was like, I can't carry your shoes. I don't

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Speaker 4: And she was my coach.

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Speaker 5: She was my coach guard coach while I was there

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Speaker 5: at Louisiana Tech for four years. And I didn't want

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Speaker 5: I want to carry my own. I want to bring

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Speaker 6: When you get.

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Speaker 3: There, tell me about the process of Like, like you say,

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Speaker 3: replacing Kim. She's still there helping coach you. So it's

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Speaker 5: It was easy. It was easy because she was all

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Speaker 6: I don't want it.

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Speaker 5: One time I was a little freshman, you know, I

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Speaker 5: She's like, I'm coming one time, you know, and she's

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Speaker 4: One time.

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Speaker 5: I said, I think I have to have the damn

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Speaker 4: She put those shoes on. It was different. It was different.

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, this girl different.

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Speaker 6: She's different.

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Speaker 5: The way that she conducted the show and how she

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Speaker 4: She was different. So she really made it difficult for

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Speaker 5: But it taught me. How taught me what I needed

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Speaker 5: to do at the slat level.

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Speaker 2: Thirty two and two championship.

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Speaker 1: Shit, you lost two games, But like, how was that

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Speaker 1: to kind of finish it?

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Speaker 2: How was that season?

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Speaker 1: Just take us through that season, the ups and downs

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Speaker 1: to around and then the click, Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, because when you have two losses and you

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So how was that up

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Speaker 1: and down in the round on that season? Dan finally

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Speaker 1: winning the national term freaking year?

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Speaker 5: It was crazy because it's my senior year, and I

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Speaker 5: I'm trying were trying to win this dang thing. And

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Speaker 5: I got to be the best version of myself to

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Speaker 5: have this team win. And then we go into a

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Speaker 5: me off to another level. Okay, you don't piss me

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Speaker 5: off to another level. We play again, You play again.

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Speaker 5: It's a way you didn't start me again. So I

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Speaker 4: Should have never done that.

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Speaker 5: So he had to call my name to win this

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Speaker 5: When he did call my name, only got two minutes,

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Speaker 4: Two minutes of my life. But lessons you learned from

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Speaker 4: so many things that happened.

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Speaker 5: And that thirty two to two season that we had,

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Speaker 5: we got our butts kicked the year before. We're supposed

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm going to ask.

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Speaker 4: The past.

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Speaker 5: That's what brought us into the season is knowing we

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Speaker 4: We should have won. I mean, they would had us

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Speaker 5: Know, everything, and we get beat, and we get beat,

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Speaker 5: you know, so it's like, nah, no, not this time.

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Speaker 5: This is the last straw that I get.

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Speaker 4: Not this time.

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Speaker 5: We all had that that attitude is not this time,

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Speaker 5: and every time we stepped on the floor it was

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Speaker 5: not this time.

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Speaker 4: And when we did lose, it was more of learning

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Speaker 5: Than damn we lost, learning lesson, learning lesson, and we

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Speaker 5: would take it into the next game and be prepared

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Speaker 4: The championship game was the halftime right bolt.

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Speaker 5: Bolt was stearing us up, and of course who was

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Speaker 5: defending her? Me I was and she had fourteen sixteen

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Speaker 5: That's why we losing. You're defending ignited me. I said,

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Speaker 5: another bucket. To this day, Ruthy said, damn, I didn't

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Speaker 3: Not another bucket, hey, but not only that, you knocked

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Speaker 4: On your girl. Put it on me, put it on me.

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Speaker 4: I want it.

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Speaker 1: They expect all these teams from the bigger schools and

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Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and Louisiana tack making noise every year.

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Speaker 5: It was due to our coach. We weren't even in

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Speaker 4: So he wanted to go.

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Speaker 5: To everybody's house and beat you. If you got a

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Speaker 5: winning street going, he scheduled it. Were going to schedule

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Speaker 5: you at your home. He wanted to break every winning

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Speaker 5: streak there was out there.

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Speaker 4: And that was big for us.

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Speaker 5: You know, competition, knowing how to compete, you know, being

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Speaker 5: ready to pay the price that hard work that pays

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Speaker 5: off for you. So that's what it was for me

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Speaker 5: about at Louisiana TACK and that was key for me

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Speaker 5: being a part of that university.

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Speaker 1: What was them days like going against the great pat

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Speaker 1: Summon and seeing how our teams excelled After playing the

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Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech teams.

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Speaker 5: Started, Man, there was a knockdown drag outs because they

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00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,440
Speaker 5: were well coached and organized, structured team.

448
00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,240
Speaker 4: And they were some big women.

449
00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,439
Speaker 5: You know, we played against you like man, these some

450
00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:14,080
Speaker 5: corn fed chicks. They were big, but they were so good.

451
00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,240
Speaker 5: I had some great friends that played with those teams,

452
00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,639
Speaker 5: but they will always talk about her preparation and her expectations.

453
00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,360
Speaker 5: But when I had a chance to talk to her,

454
00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,520
Speaker 5: she said, those are not expectations. And when I started coaching,

455
00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,480
Speaker 5: she said, you better demand it. The expectations are already

456
00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,840
Speaker 5: their expectations from you, expectations from them, but you have

457
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,800
Speaker 5: to demand the expectation. So she said, be a coach

458
00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,240
Speaker 5: of demands. And she was a coach of demands. And

459
00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,760
Speaker 5: you can tell you look across the league. So many

460
00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,600
Speaker 5: Tennessee women have played, so many women from Tennessee have

461
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,200
Speaker 5: played in the USA Olympic teams and what they're doing

462
00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,040
Speaker 5: in the coaching field. She left her marked in an

463
00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,320
Speaker 5: incredible way, not only with her players, but even though

464
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,879
Speaker 5: she had an opportunity to coach with her, Look what

465
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,560
Speaker 5: they're doing and whenever it's mentioned, you know, we backpat

466
00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,960
Speaker 5: and she's just an amazing person that has done so

467
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,199
Speaker 5: much for women's basketball. But not only there did she

468
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,480
Speaker 5: stop it was basketball period. There was a respect factor

469
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,040
Speaker 5: for who she was as a coach across the basketball world.

470
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,720
Speaker 2: That's the thing that stuck with you from her.

471
00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,879
Speaker 4: To a demand, that's what's up.

472
00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,200
Speaker 6: How was it coaching at you're alma mater?

473
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,560
Speaker 4: That was interesting?

474
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,959
Speaker 5: That was interesting because you know when you leave and

475
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,000
Speaker 5: your life is taken another turn home, another different turn.

476
00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,679
Speaker 5: And I was actually coaching men at the time. I

477
00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,600
Speaker 5: was a head coach. My first head coaching job was

478
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,600
Speaker 5: in the ABA and it was Elton Brand's team. I

479
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,959
Speaker 5: was with the Westchester Phantoms. That was my first head

480
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,760
Speaker 5: coaching job and I was actually coaching them. And Karl

481
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 5: Malone once again calls and says, hey, you need to

482
00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:41,720
Speaker 5: come home.

483
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,919
Speaker 4: You come home. I said home, I am home. I'm

484
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 4: in New York.

485
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,320
Speaker 5: What you mean, he said, we want you to come back.

486
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,439
Speaker 5: I said, come back for one year. Come back for

487
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,640
Speaker 5: one year, no problem. I went with a bag, you guys,

488
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,800
Speaker 5: I went with a bag. And unfortunately, like seven games

489
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 5: left in the season, they released the head coach and

490
00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,199
Speaker 5: I was the associate head coach. So I was like, Nah,

491
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,080
Speaker 5: this ain't happened to me. I wasn't playing on the day,

492
00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,840
Speaker 5: and this is not happening. And they named me interim

493
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,160
Speaker 5: head coach, and I started to like it. It's great

494
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,439
Speaker 5: when you play for a university and you move on

495
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 5: as a young kid, but then to come back after

496
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,680
Speaker 5: so many years for them to want you back, that's

497
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 5: probably one of the best feelings for me, more so

498
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 5: than when I went as an eighteen year old. But

499
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,160
Speaker 5: it was even more so when they called me back

500
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,719
Speaker 5: and asked me to lead this team. And unfortunately, you know,

501
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 5: when things happen and it doesn't happen the way they

502
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,920
Speaker 5: wanted to happen, then you're removed.

503
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 4: It can become difficult and painful.

504
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 5: But it was difficult when that happened to me because

505
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,919
Speaker 5: it's my freaking university and it was how it happened

506
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 5: more so than it happening.

507
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 4: That story is to be told.

508
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 5: Soon, But it was just how it happened for me

509
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 5: because there's love and always would be loved for my university.

510
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 5: That's where things started for me, and I'll always be

511
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 5: respectful and professional in that setting.

512
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 2: I seem like Carlon Loan was a big influence.

513
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of your career and life, just being

514
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 1: from Louisiana.

515
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 4: He's an amazing guy. You know, as a high school

516
00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,959
Speaker 4: kid trying to find what school I wanted to go to,

517
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,719
Speaker 4: he was like, louis didn't take the place to be.

518
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 4: So I really.

519
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 5: Enjoyed my visitor, enjoyed what they were all about, and

520
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 5: I knew that was the place for me.

521
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 4: He was helpful in that.

522
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 5: And then I watched his career all the time that

523
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 5: he played, and he watched mine.

524
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 4: It was really crazy. He went from Utah to LA.

525
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 5: I went from New York to la It's really I

526
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 5: was like, this ain't even happening with the both of us,

527
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 5: but we remained close the entire time. Like he's a

528
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 5: freaking Hall of Famer and he's a wonderful guy doing

529
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 5: great things there in Rustern, Louisiana by changing the school,

530
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 5: really doing things to better our university and better things

531
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 5: for the young people who were there. He was just

532
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 5: instrumental in me being there at Louisiana taking having my back.

533
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 2: Shout out the mail man when you came out.

534
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,959
Speaker 1: There wasn't no wnbs, which I always say this all

535
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: the time. The USA women's basketball team always put their

536
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: best foot forward because they have the team of the

537
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: decade to team, like, it's always be just so much

538
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 1: power with them to play with the USA team.

539
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 2: You know, now you're on the USA team.

540
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: Now you playing with the top girls and you seeing

541
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 1: who's who and y'all going overseas to win that that

542
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: was y'all championship. Then y'all don't have no w ev

543
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: How was them to see your period, see the people

544
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: and see the people that respect you to be like, nah,

545
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 1: we need Teresa Wetherspoon on this team with everybody else

546
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: that we name, and you've been a leader on that

547
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: team too, Like how was that for you?

548
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 4: That was crazy?

549
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: Winning gold medal?

550
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 5: Super crazy because that was an age myself right quick.

551
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 5: I was in eighty eight my first Olympic game they

552
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 5: ever played, but I played on USA team's leading to that,

553
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 5: because you know, you really kind of show yourself to

554
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 5: try to get the part Olympic team, and then ninety two.

555
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 5: I played on eighty eight to ninety two Olympic team.

556
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 5: But the eighty eight one was incredible because I was

557
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 5: a kid who was told I would never be great

558
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 5: at playing the game of basketball, told by coach I

559
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 5: would never be great playing the game of basketball. So

560
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 5: to have that medal and to be able to say

561
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 5: I was part of the twelve best to do this,

562
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 5: it was incredible. And to play with the girls I

563
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 5: had an opportunity to play with was simply amazing.

564
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 4: You're talking about great practices. There was some amazing practice practices.

565
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 5: The matchups. You know they always taught about practice is fun.

566
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 5: The hell, it's not practice.

567
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 4: It's hard.

568
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 5: Kill each other, straight kill each other. So game time

569
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 5: is gonna be easy. Practice was harder than the game

570
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 5: and it's supposed to be. It was unreal the talent level.

571
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 5: It's to be a part of something like that to

572
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 5: know how easy the game is going to be. Now

573
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 5: from every angle, whether it's the one, two, three, four

574
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 5: to five, and then the bench coming off the best

575
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 5: bitch in the world. The bitch could have been another

576
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 5: Olympic team. That's just how great old Start five. That's

577
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 5: just how great it was to be able to play

578
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 5: with those ladies.

579
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: For USA team, which out of the four you feel

580
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: is the best USA team.

581
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 5: The best USA team that I played, and we did

582
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 5: not win. We did not win. We were part of

583
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 5: the dream team, you know, the dream team, and ninety

584
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 5: two we were freaking dream team too, and we did

585
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 5: not win. But I still believe that we were the

586
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 5: best assembled USA team period. Now someone else is probably

587
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 5: gonna say something differently, but we were by far the

588
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 5: best assembled the USA team in ninety two and did

589
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 5: not win, and that that doesn't settle with us because

590
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 5: you know, everyone say, yeah, but you got a medal,

591
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 5: you got a bronze medal. Many people can't say that

592
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 5: we didn't go there for a bronze medals our boss.

593
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: That bothers us a lot. But that was one of

594
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 4: the best ever a symbol.

595
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, like, you know, you see

596
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: the NBA players and like it's not like back in

597
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: our day where they all running to play for the

598
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: USA team how they used to. But for women, this

599
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: is what it is. This is what it's been until

600
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: we got this stuff in the NBA stuff and this

601
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: USA stuff is still what it been. We've seen a

602
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: necka get off the USA team. She felt like she

603
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: deserved it, and like you see how much it meant

604
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: to her, But it don't mean that much to the

605
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: guys like that.

606
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: Do you see the difference of that? Can you speak of?

607
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 5: It's still the ultimate, It's still the ultimate play for

608
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 5: your country. It's still the ultimate for us to play

609
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 5: for your country, especially when you know you are deserving

610
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 5: of a spot. But just to imagine how many people

611
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 5: who are deserving of that spot and the committee, they

612
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 5: have such a hard time of making sure the right

613
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 5: people are in that position. But when you go every

614
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: summer and you're playing on a USA team, don't tell

615
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 5: me you don't deserve a spot for the Olympic team

616
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 5: because you've now committed yourself, because you know, once you

617
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 5: commit yourself every summer to get to that fourth year

618
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 5: to play on Olympic team, you deserve a spot, especially

619
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 5: when you're capable.

620
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 3: I think the difference between the men and women when

621
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: it comes to the commitment to the USA team is because,

622
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: being truthful, you look at it, the guys make so

623
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: much money. The commitment is different because they don't need

624
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: to go to that like not and it's not even

625
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's a need for the

626
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: women because like I feel like they are bought in

627
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: in a different way. But I feel like because the

628
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: guys have a certain level of fame, a certain level

629
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: of money, is not as important. And the NBA is

630
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 3: so many different parameters, Like I'm a max, I'm one

631
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 3: of them, you know what I'm saying, Whether I'm an

632
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: All Star, whether I'm a.

633
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 5: Different things and connected to our names, it helps, it does.

634
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 5: It helps for a next position, So it really helps.

635
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 5: And especially if you got one, two, three, four times connected.

636
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 6: And forgotten that they don't need that.

637
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: They can get that validation from so many other places.

638
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: That's why I feel like for a guy like Lebron

639
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: not going to the Olympic Game after I've played literally

640
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: as much basketball as anybody could play. Every All Star,

641
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm there, every Playoffs, I go to distance, every everything, Championship,

642
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm there. If it's Olympic, I'm there every time. So

643
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: like I can't do that right now, I gotta arrest

644
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: my body.

645
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: We heard a lot of stories, We interviewed a lot

646
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: of women, We heard a lot of overseas stories places

647
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: they being in some of these players and then found.

648
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: New life, new living, you know, a new way of.

649
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: Living, new piece by getting the opportunity to go overseas.

650
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: One of the things when I go seas, it's so

651
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: much different than the United States, where I'm scared to

652
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: live over there because I'm like, man, I don't know,

653
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: it's so different than we live. But can you tell

654
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: us some of the stories and some of the places

655
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: that you done been to overseas and just you know,

656
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: some of the funny.

657
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: Stories that you had over there. Consious.

658
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 5: I played in Italy my first seven years, and then

659
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 5: I had an opportunity to play in Russia, on which

660
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 5: no one has ever played over there, No no American

661
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 5: has ever played in their league period. I went over

662
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 5: with Medina Dixon and that was one of the best

663
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 5: experiences is to play on a Russian team and it

664
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 5: was a Central Sports club of Army. And of course,

665
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 5: you know, you don't you supposed to say that at

666
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 5: that time, because of they had just transitioned from communism

667
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 5: to capitalism and here we are over there trying to

668
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 5: make a living and make a life for ourselves. But

669
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: the most important thing when you're there and I know

670
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 5: these people. I'm scared to do this, scared to do that.

671
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 5: But you have to de americanize yourself. And if you

672
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 5: de americanize yourself and start to live the way that

673
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 5: they live, there go the respect factor that they see. Okay,

674
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 5: I respect them. They like to live how we live.

675
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 5: They're not trying to be that American and feel like

676
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 5: they're better.

677
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 8: Yeah.

678
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, So americanize yourself and live like them. I did

679
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 5: everything Russians would do. I even dressed like a Russia.

680
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 5: I did everything they would do. I had to learn

681
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 5: who was Mafia because Adeina Dixon and I we weren't

682
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 5: taking the crap from nobody because we're learning what's happening

683
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 5: there because we were the first two black Americans they

684
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: ever playing. We're not supposed to be leaving home until

685
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 5: everyone knew that we were playing for a central sport

686
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: club of Army, but we wanted to get out of

687
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: lynd and Golrasky to see what was happening. And of

688
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 5: course we didn't know mafia drives the Mercedes and how

689
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 5: they look. And we're headed to the gym, trying to

690
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 5: get to the gym and get to practice on time.

691
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 5: If they go by us and you know, the snow

692
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 5: is everywhere and.

693
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: Whoosh, thro all that crap up on us. We were

694
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: like what the.

695
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 5: So we did the finger hit them with the finger,

696
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 5: like it's something to turn coming down.

697
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 4: Who shit, So we ran. We got into the building.

698
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: We get into the building and of course they were like,

699
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: what's what's going on.

700
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: It's like, no, these these people came back because what

701
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 5: happened We flipped them off and they came back after us.

702
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: Those people came in the door. Well, oh that's them.

703
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: They came in the door. So we were like, they

704
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: were like, if you ever see them with this cap

705
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 4: on and driving the Mercedes and with these jackets on,

706
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: they're with us.

707
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 5: It was we thought it was over for us at

708
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 5: that point because we didn't know we were just putting

709
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 5: this mess upon us, come on on our nice clothes.

710
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: So of course we were ticked off, but that was

711
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: a that was a.

712
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: Lesson for us right there, knowing who was who, knowing

713
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 5: who was who?

714
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: I think Russia is the spot a spy.

715
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I remember there that you was the first

716
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: to go over there.

717
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 8: Yeah.

718
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many things happened, did you when you were

719
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: in Italy? Did you play against anybody else that ended

720
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: up being in w n B.

721
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: A Uh, yeah, I played the majority of us.

722
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 5: The majority of us ended up everybody I played against

723
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 5: Italy or in Russia ended up playing in the league.

724
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 5: And a couple of Russian girls ended up playing again.

725
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: And one Italian that I played against that came into

726
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 5: the league.

727
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 6: That's great.

728
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

729
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: How was the competition compared like as far as like

730
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: the first year? I mean, I know the players were

731
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: probably at a higher level, but this was the first

732
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: year the WNBA, so you know, everybody was getting used

733
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: to it.

734
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 6: Was it when you came from overseas?

735
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: Was it a little more uptick because they had been

736
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: going for a longer time?

737
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? See, I think the thing that was important for

738
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: us is we couldn't say anything but great things about

739
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: playing overseas because it kept us ready in case this

740
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: did come into existence, and when it did, we were

741
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: ready to roll.

742
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 5: Of course, we were playing a very high level and

743
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 5: planning in Russia. These were some of the best girls

744
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 5: to do it in Russia, and they were Olympians too.

745
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 5: We were playing against some Olympians and playing with some

746
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 5: Olympians who would just beat us in ninety two. So

747
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 5: of course there was some knockdown drag outs in practice

748
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 5: because we still ticked off from losing to this, so

749
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: we keep going at.

750
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: It in practice as well.

751
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 5: But we were ready because of playing overseas and that's

752
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 5: how we got into the league. We're still empt up,

753
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 5: bodies still looked good, we were still in great shape,

754
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 5: and we were ready to roll.

755
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: Where was you at when you heard there are going

756
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: to be a w NBA and what was that like?

757
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: Like?

758
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: I was in France. I never forget sitting in France

759
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 4: playing overseas. Of course it's going to be had.

760
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 5: I was over there playing and when they called and

761
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: said that I would be allocated to play in New York,

762
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 5: I was like, this can't be happening. I cannot be

763
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 5: We've been playing overseas all these years and at first

764
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: they told me I were playing in Houston. I'll be

765
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 5: playing Houston because I'm from Texas, so they wanted to

766
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 5: have you know, a lot of people played close, local

767
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 5: people to bring butts in the seats. When they called

768
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 5: and said well, you'll be playing in New York.

769
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: For about two seconds, I was like, damn New York.

770
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: Oh that's my style. That's my flow.

771
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 5: And to be playing there, man to play in that place,

772
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 5: and then for the w NBA to come into existence

773
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 5: due to what our ninety six Olympic team did.

774
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: That's really what happened.

775
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 5: Our ninety six Olympic team just showed the world you

776
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: can't miss this style of play. We belong in America

777
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 5: playing this game and not having to go overseas to

778
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 5: continue to play.

779
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: That liberty and that Sparks game. That first game. The

780
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: world is watching, all the cameras, all the star power.

781
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: Tell us about just that game, the process, the whole thing,

782
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: because look at where the league is now and that

783
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: was that first game and you was part of that.

784
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: Just tell us about that game.

785
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 4: We were scared.

786
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: That's at least Leslie said. I didn't know what was

787
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: going on. I thought he was going to be in

788
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: practice Jerseys.

789
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: It was a real deal for us. We were scared.

790
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: I mean I can remember calling home as we're getting

791
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 5: on the bus. Time to get on the bus. I'm

792
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 5: calling my family say hey, you guys got to tune in.

793
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 5: I said, I'm so freaking nervous. I'm so nervous, don't

794
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: even know what to do. We get on the bus

795
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 5: and we're driving up to the Forum. That's when nerves

796
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: really hit me. I'm like, man, this is really real,

797
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 5: about to be a part of the magic time. It's showtime,

798
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 5: and to be a part of it. Man, it was crazy.

799
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 5: It was really crazy then to walk out to see

800
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 5: the people really to watch us play. Because we were

801
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 5: told this is a Summer League team, you're not gonna

802
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 5: get more than five thousand people to watch. But we

803
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 5: knew if you give uses to play on you coming,

804
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: You're coming, because we're exciting group of girls to watch

805
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 5: play the game of basketball. And once we got that opportunity,

806
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 5: we just took full advantage of it because we understood

807
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 5: the magnitude of that one game, that first game. We

808
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 5: understood the magnitude of being on TV and people watching us.

809
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: We knew it had we had to put on the show.

810
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: Tell me how was it when you you played that

811
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: first game was in the Forum. But once you got

812
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: to New York, Yeah, and you got to play in

813
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: front of those fans and you got to cause you

814
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: I wanted the most beloved New York athletes piermer like

815
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: in the whole you know, I played there and like

816
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: you still was being talked about, so you know, I

817
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: know what you the relationship you got with those fans.

818
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: To just tell me how it was when you first

819
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: got to get there and start.

820
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 6: Seeing like, oh wait a minute, they like.

821
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: Me, and being like when they really get a load

822
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: of me, it's gonna be over with Like how is that?

823
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: Forew when you started to see how the fans fell

824
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: in love with you and and vice versas.

825
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 5: It was a real special moment for me because Rebecca

826
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: Lobo comes up to me after the first game. In

827
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 5: the first game, of course, was in the forum, and

828
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 5: then we're getting ready to play at home. She said,

829
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: this is your team, this is your team. That was

830
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 5: enough for me. That was enough for me, and I

831
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 5: was already excited to be ready to play in Madison

832
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 5: Square Garden, the most famous arena in the world. Right now,

833
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: this is actually our home. This is what we play.

834
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 5: We got to protect this floor. I was ready to

835
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 5: get the people every single piece of energy I had

836
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: because we knew what basketball.

837
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: Meant to this place. This is the mecca. This is

838
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: a mecca.

839
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 5: We get a chance to play and man, you walked

840
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 5: out and we were like, they said, five thousand people, Well,

841
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 5: this place is full, it's backed, it's showtime. So we

842
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 5: got in our locker room. Everybody's like, so you guys,

843
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: get ready to go. This is our time. They came

844
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 5: to see us. Don't need to be afraid, don't need

845
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 5: to be afraid.

846
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: Let's go. So we're ready.

847
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: We're ready to play because we got the feel when

848
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: we went to the forum, we got a feel for it.

849
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 5: Of course, going to the garden it's a little bit different,

850
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: but we already got that field we had to feel

851
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 5: for when we knew we were at home and people

852
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 5: were there.

853
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: To watch us.

854
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: Just to see what they created that season, like you know,

855
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: like they started the league, had this draft jerseys, the

856
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: jerseys y'all in the big arenas. I know it can't

857
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: be you know, the best thing, but just to start off,

858
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: how was that just their first season to see the

859
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: effort of like now we're trying to really do a

860
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: WNBA and it's supposed to be here forever. Like the

861
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: campaigns that you see on TV, the commercials, yea, when

862
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: they started doing the commercials and everything, how was that

863
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: just that whole year of that.

864
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when you knew it was big. As we

865
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: saw all the commercials on TV. You they were really

866
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 5: promoting us. You know, it wasn't something that is, there's

867
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 5: a league, but nobody ever recognized what we were doing

868
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 5: or saw what we were doing, or it was televised

869
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: to see what we were doing.

870
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 4: That's when you knew it was big.

871
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 5: When all the commercials are out or before season started,

872
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 5: you're out making sure the commercials are done. They had

873
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: certain players that they would bring in and do the commercials,

874
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 5: and that was big for us to have that. And

875
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 5: when we got that, we knew, Okay, this thing is real.

876
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 3: Was there a moment for you where you were like,

877
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: now I'm in New York, I'm playing in WNBA, but

878
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: like you had previously played eight years in Italy, two

879
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: years in Russia. Was there a point where it was like,

880
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: I can't believe that this is happening. I'm like, you

881
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You were becoming a superstar in America.

882
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, People your own people getting

883
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: to see your family, can see you on TV, they

884
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: can travel to come see you without having to get

885
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: passports and all that. Like how were those all of

886
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: those changes for you? And realizing, like he said, what

887
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: they had put together and it's like, now, after all

888
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: of these years and me putting in this work overseas

889
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: and doing it, it's a home for me here in

890
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: my own country.

891
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 6: How did that feel?

892
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 5: I think people don't realize or they only see what

893
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 5: you do on the floor, but those nights of going

894
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 5: home after a game and you go home and your

895
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 5: body's aching and you feel in a certain way. But

896
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 5: I mean, there were many of Knights to sit down

897
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 5: and think that this is what we're doing now and

898
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 5: people are really accepting us. Many A Knight's tiers were

899
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 5: flowing because it was the best feeling to know that

900
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: with only being recognized at home, we're not overseas. We're

901
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 5: not just having to look forward to being an Olympian

902
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: where only twelve people get that we have thousands and

903
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 5: thousands of girls who can play this game and people

904
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 5: need to see the talent. And so that was plenty

905
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: nice that tears were just rolling. But we also for me,

906
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 5: I was also thinking that, well, I got a job

907
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: to do.

908
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: I got a huge.

909
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 5: Job to do because there's other girls who are dreaming

910
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 5: just like I did.

911
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: I can't fail them. So that was on my mind too.

912
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's like that was Yes, it was on

913
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 5: my freaking mind because I want them to experience this

914
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: is this is awesome.

915
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 4: But as you experience it, think of the next person.

916
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: Think of the next person, so this thing can continue

917
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 5: to grow and get bigger and bigger.

918
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: Back to back Defensive player of the years at knock

919
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: up at the point though, like you don't really see

920
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: a lot of points getting the defensive player of the

921
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: ward and straight up and so for how was that

922
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: to just really be recognized on the level, Like I know,

923
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: you go overseas and you win scoring titles, you'd be

924
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: the defensive player, you win a championship, and to get

925
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: recognized in the United States at that time for a

926
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: woman's basketball player on the top level, how was that

927
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: for you?

928
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 5: It's really crazy. I knew I knew that I was

929
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 5: the best defensive player period.

930
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: I knew it. And that happened for me at Louisiana.

931
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: Take my first.

932
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 5: Year, very first year of very first practice coming out

933
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 5: of high school. You scoring twenty five thirty points with

934
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 5: no problem because everyone to say how she couldn't score

935
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: the ball. It's a sacrifice I made, I mean a

936
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: sacrifice to be the best defender possible.

937
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: Coach Balmore said, if you want to play on my.

938
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: Team, you're going to defend.

939
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: And it clicked. It clicked.

940
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 5: I went right after the best offensive player there was

941
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 5: on a team at that time. I'm going right after her,

942
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 5: going right after her. I want to show them I

943
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 5: can lock up. I can start it from the point

944
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: guard position. And you guys just talking about GP. They

945
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 5: always called it the glove. They called me the little Mitton.

946
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: That's real cold, the little one. At least call Meton.

947
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 4: Don't put little on it. But defenses, that's me. That's me.

948
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: I look forward to defending the best. Yeah, you're gonna

949
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: dream me.

950
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: This is one thing that I've always from the first

951
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: time i've seen you play, and I believe it was

952
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: the ninety two Olympics. Your energy, you know what I'm saying,

953
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: what you bring to the game, Like I can definitely remember,

954
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: like yo, and then even when you start coaching, and

955
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: I've seen a clip of something like dude, like I

956
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: run through a wall of it, Like that's I want.

957
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: I want that, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,

958
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: where do you think? Like that's one of the biggest

959
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 3: things I've always sin seen you play. I love not minrid,

960
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: and I was drawn to Like whenever I had teammates

961
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: like that, they turned me up to another level. Like

962
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: I know I was a person that brought that, but

963
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: like if I ever had somebody else with me that

964
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 3: brought how you brought that energy?

965
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 6: Where do you think you got that from? And where

966
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 6: did that come from?

967
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: Because that's like you have the type of passion and

968
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 3: energy that's so infectious and it goes throughout the whole team.

969
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: Everybody's seen it, whether you were playing, coaching or whatever.

970
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 6: Like where do you think you developed that.

971
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 5: Front that drive to come out the whole and drive

972
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 5: to come out of the hole of where I came from.

973
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 5: I was told I wouldn't be. I was told I

974
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 5: would not be. So I mean, even to this day,

975
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 5: you'll see the growl on my face. It brings it

976
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: out of me. So when it when you you tell

977
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 5: me what I cannot do, I'm gonna tell you can

978
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 5: put me with the wolves and watch me come out

979
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna be leading them. It's just my attitude,

980
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 5: it's my approach. It's some mentality you gotta have. Now

981
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: you gotta have it, and that's what I want you

982
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 5: to feel when we walk out there, we walk out

983
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: there together, it's coming out of me.

984
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 4: It's coming out of me.

985
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: And right now you're bringing it out of me right now,

986
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 5: bringing the ship out.

987
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm actually sitting there hold in.

988
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: My head and the energy I'm feeling it, That's what

989
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, this is, this.

990
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 4: Is so what are we gonna do. We're gonna sit

991
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 4: on our gift.

992
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 5: We're gonna sit in our gift and just be like,

993
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 5: that's not me, that's not me. And the one thing

994
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: that I don't do is I don't live between the

995
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 5: handclasps of people. Living in between your handclaff I'm waiting

996
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 5: on you to clap for me. Q I'll never get

997
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 5: to where I'm gonna because you might not clap, but

998
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 5: I'm waiting on you. I don't live between that. I

999
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 5: don't let anyone tell me who I am or what

1000
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 5: I can do. I don't let anyone cover, restrict or

1001
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 5: suffer my gift. And I'm not gonna do it.

1002
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: The passion is in you and all that, But who

1003
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: gave you the structure of being a point guard? The

1004
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: rules of being a point guard, that the responsibilities of

1005
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: being a point guard that people a regular casual fan

1006
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: on know. They don't know you need to set that

1007
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: person up. They don't know I need to get so

1008
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: and so to ball. They don't know, Oh, so and

1009
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: so I ain't had a couple of shot. Let me

1010
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: get her three. Who taught you the structure of being

1011
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: a point guard? Study you study?

1012
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: I study. I studied it.

1013
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: Were some of the people that you studied that you're saying.

1014
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: It's crazy, I study magic, Isaiah. I studied those guys

1015
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: like nobody's.

1016
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: Business because they wanted to get in. You want to

1017
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: get people involves. I wanted. I wanted to I wanted

1018
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: to do that.

1019
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 5: I want everybody to be the best version of themselves,

1020
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 5: and I was willing to sacrifice my own game for

1021
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 5: the good of the team. I believed in that. So

1022
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 5: I watched them, and I studied everybody of in this

1023
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 5: study my own personnel. I had my own personnel because

1024
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 5: I need to know that you let you have a

1025
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 5: high pocket, you got a low pot, you gotta midpick,

1026
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 5: whatever your pocket is. I had to know that and

1027
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 5: get the ball to you on time on target. That's

1028
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 5: just stuff you know on time on target. But I

1029
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 5: also had to be able to conduct the show and

1030
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: to conduct the show in the right way.

1031
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: All we running? Are we running? There's nothing?

1032
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 5: Then I set up and then we show what we

1033
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 5: can do offensive With execution, there's a lot that goes

1034
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 5: in execution. Everybody just thinks that this is the play

1035
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 5: we're running. You can run plays all you want. Many

1036
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 5: teams can run places, but can you execute. It's a

1037
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 5: total difference in execution and running a play. So much

1038
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 5: is involved there. So I had to be the one

1039
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 5: who understood one, two, three, four and the five bass.

1040
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: I had to be understanding.

1041
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: Ninety eight ninety nine, the Liberty get to the w

1042
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: NBA finals. Tell me what you feeling in like y'all

1043
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: you in the Mecca and you lead them to the

1044
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: big show.

1045
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 6: Joe Houston.

1046
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 5: Houston steal Salty, Steel Salty. But they were they were

1047
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 5: so good. You had to be almost flawless. You had

1048
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 5: to be flawless beat them. And I give them a

1049
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 5: lot of credit because they were so good and they

1050
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 5: brought a lot out of you every time you played

1051
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 5: against them.

1052
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 4: Ninety nine that was an incredible series period.

1053
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 5: We had the first game at home, and then the

1054
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 5: second was on their floor, and then the third one

1055
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 5: was on their floor. If we would have gotten the

1056
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: first one, they were in trouble. They were in trouble.

1057
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: We were close to getting that first one. Of course,

1058
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 5: see the Cooper goes off and kind of gets some

1059
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 5: over the hump and gets the first one. But we

1060
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: felt like we can still go in and still want

1061
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 5: at their place.

1062
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: We talked to Tina, and Tina said like, yeah, I

1063
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: just told Cynthy and sure like make sure you know

1064
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: who you god. And she said, when she's seen your

1065
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: face when you grab the ball a lot of bounds,

1066
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: like she knew you was gonna Can you take us

1067
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: through that project? Because when you really look over the clip,

1068
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: all the comics players are celebrating, all your players just

1069
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: outside the person who took the ball out, and you

1070
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: all the rest of your players like, yeah, this is over,

1071
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: and you see to take the ball out gets you

1072
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: the ball, and it seemed like you're the only one

1073
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: that's still playing the game all way down to double zero.

1074
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: Like I'm not stopping to that last horn.

1075
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that?

1076
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 4: That play for Christal Robinson kind of kept us in.

1077
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 5: Chris Robinson kept us in knocking down threes and keeping

1078
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 5: the sin and keeping it going, and of course Tina

1079
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 5: makes an incredible shot gets them over the humping and

1080
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: the confetti goes down. But there's time on the clock

1081
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 5: and I was just I was just screaming to Kim Hampton,

1082
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 5: throw it, throw it. Nobody was around me, nobody. I

1083
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 5: was like, throw it. When she got it to me,

1084
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: nobody was there, and I was able to heave it.

1085
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 5: He was just a tab it late. And when it

1086
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 5: went in, I mean the look on their face. I

1087
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: told him, that's joy for me. See the look on

1088
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 5: your face. Change that confetti picked that ship up.

1089
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: So I can still talk trash to him about that.

1090
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: Now what who? But don't want this in your locker room?

1091
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: Just Tim, how was that?

1092
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 6: Just?

1093
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: Just did you ever think that?

1094
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 6: Like?

1095
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: Man, how did they get them three players on the

1096
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: same team?

1097
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 6: Man?

1098
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: We all did, like, how did Houston three?

1099
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: But everyone is the number one player?

1100
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: And they got Sheryl Swoops and Synthia Coupon on the

1101
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: same team.

1102
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how to happened. It just they got lucky.

1103
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 4: They got lucky, but it worked out for them.

1104
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 5: But no one talks about Jennet or Kin.

1105
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: They were unbelievable. They kept the balance, They kept it balanced.

1106
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: They kept it balanced.

1107
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 5: Once we were focused in on these three, these two children.

1108
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 5: You look at the stat she's like, well, damn she

1109
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 5: had twenty. She had fifteen inst so it would kill you.

1110
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: You had to be flawless. Everybody had to be on.

1111
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: Points coming into the w NBA. You seen all these

1112
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: commercials and stuff for the phone. They basically put the

1113
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: sparks to win a championship basically every year. The Liberty

1114
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: was like the second team to that. But how was

1115
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: it to see the unfold of it, to see, like

1116
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: how it actually turned out a team from Houston that

1117
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: nobody knew what was even going on, Like Team Thomps

1118
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: was number one picking. She won the first most popular

1119
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: number pick, and it wasn't because it's something she did,

1120
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: because people didn't know women's basketball, you know what I'm saying.

1121
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: So, like, how was just to see how it actually unfold?

1122
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: And because Lisa Leslie told us that it took a

1123
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: couple of years to really adjust and be like, yeah,

1124
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: this shit ain't really going nowhere, this is it and

1125
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: this is finna start the legacies, the Hall of Fames

1126
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: and everything from everybody's career, but them first couple of years,

1127
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: Uston kind of ran them off. But you know, just

1128
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: seeing the rest of the league just kind of unfold,

1129
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: you seeing stars from everywhere, you know, you know what

1130
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, yeah.

1131
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 5: It was really if it wasn't Us, if it wasn't Houston,

1132
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 5: if it wasn't the Sparks, if it wasn't even.

1133
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 4: Phoenix, Phoenix, Phoenix was really big in Cleveland. You can't

1134
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 4: leave the Rockers out because they were our Achilles Hills

1135
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: for the Liberty, they were Achilles Hill. They were so

1136
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: freaking good.

1137
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: But once you saw how parallel the league became, you

1138
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 5: knew then this thing is gonna explode because we only

1139
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: had eight teams. Now we have twelve, and we're almost

1140
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 5: sure it's gonna expand. And that's what you really want

1141
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: to see from seeing the things unfold, watching it unfold

1142
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 5: and seeing how now each team you don't have a

1143
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 5: clue who's gonna win, even this upcoming season, even this

1144
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 5: upcoming season, you're looking at it like, boys, these people

1145
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 5: have done really well at bettering their teams by going

1146
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 5: into the free agency and pulling it and really really

1147
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 5: they've really done a great job. So it's going to

1148
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: be so much more excitement by the way that they're

1149
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 5: putting the teams together.

1150
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: Fast forward to now you know, you know you started

1151
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: the first season, you see it now to see these pioneers,

1152
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: these players that then came and made a lot of history,

1153
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: especially some of the young Simon Augustus, the Maya Moore's,

1154
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: the Diana Tarasi's and you know, the Asia Wilson. Seeing

1155
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: the big girls dunk, you know what I'm saying. To

1156
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: see how this this this w NBA thing have evolved

1157
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: from the rules, the more benefits they got and everything.

1158
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: How proud are you to see the direction and the

1159
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: future is going into.

1160
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 5: And that's what we talked about earlier once making sure

1161
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 5: that each person who put that uniform on for whatever

1162
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 5: team it wants is for you to have not only

1163
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 5: a vision for your team, not only a vision for yourself,

1164
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 5: but a vision for the future. And that's exactly what

1165
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 5: they've done. They have an incredible future. Is this league

1166
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 5: is going to be even better. I think the CBA.

1167
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 5: They went in and went to the table and did

1168
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 5: a really good job with the CBA, and that's only

1169
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 5: gonna get better.

1170
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: Everything is progressional. You're gonna have.

1171
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 5: Your Trailblazers like ourselves in the Pioneers. Who's gonna start things,

1172
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 5: and then there's the in between and then here you

1173
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 5: go now moving towards the future of it really growing,

1174
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 5: and that's what's gonna happen. It's gonna only get better.

1175
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 5: And these girls are not gonna have to go overseas,

1176
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 5: they have to instan meet.

1177
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: You think a woman, what's gonna ever dunk in a

1178
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: w NBA game? Absolutely absolutely so you felt like, oh

1179
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: when they started this, so, oh yeah, we're gonna have

1180
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: women dunking in the minute gave us cut off.

1181
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 5: It was because we stay so fundamentally sound. It wasn't

1182
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 5: that everybody didn't have the jumping ability. I mean everybody,

1183
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: don't even think about my Wadi Mobika, my Wadi Mobika.

1184
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 5: Even Michelle Edwards who played alongside with the Rockers. Their

1185
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 5: ability to jump was unreal. But we were all about

1186
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 5: the finger rolling in the layups and being deceptive side

1187
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 5: of them.

1188
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this because I say this, We've said

1189
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 3: this on here a lot of times when people, oh,

1190
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 3: yr Kebine women's basketball players are light years ahead of

1191
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: the NBA with fundamentals because me and naturally we got

1192
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: so many different skills, and we can skip steps. We

1193
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: can skip steps and don't have to we could cheat.

1194
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: We don't have to do this and that because I

1195
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: might just go take off like you remember, Mari he said,

1196
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: he went his first workout, stats say they told him

1197
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: to do this, do this, go left and the he said.

1198
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: I looked at him and said, man, I don't know

1199
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. I took just took off and

1200
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: dunk like okay, but like yeah, like and y'all can't

1201
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: do that. So like you see way more up and

1202
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: under step through with footwork and all this different stuff.

1203
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 6: I tell people like, man, y'all be come like man,

1204
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 6: nobody bruh.

1205
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: You watch and you will see these ladies are skilled

1206
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: and they don't get to skip steps like we do,

1207
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: so they really have to. We never do the extra

1208
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: little step through thing. You see it in a eurostep,

1209
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: but like in the post and they do the one

1210
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: two stuff. And you never see that call of travel

1211
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: instantly on an NBA dude, Like what was that?

1212
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 8: Like?

1213
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 6: You never see.

1214
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: It as basketball players.

1215
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: We always want a nicknack, We want somebody to call

1216
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: or something and all that stuff. Do you like tea

1217
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: spoon just spoon or was it another nickname that we

1218
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: haven't heard that people used to call you.

1219
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was actually used to be calling in college rainbow.

1220
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 5: One of the coaches from me from s m U,

1221
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 5: he called me Rambo. He said, I said, why why

1222
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 5: you call me rambo? He said, my damn player can't

1223
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 5: get the ball across half court. Get the ball across

1224
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 5: the half court. New York called me a predator. There,

1225
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 5: they call me a predator, but tea spoon has always

1226
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 5: been it for me.

1227
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

1228
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 5: And the reason being is because I even said that

1229
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 5: what I try to do, I'm a defensive nut, but

1230
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 5: I also.

1231
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: Like to hand it out like aditioned out. So it

1232
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 4: was all spoon fed.

1233
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: How was it when the first time you've seen that

1234
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: spoon in the stands, that spoon.

1235
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: They lost their mind this New York is matter of fact,

1236
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 5: it was two of us, Weatherspoon and Witherspoon, So they

1237
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 5: had two spoons in the stands. I mean, it was

1238
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 5: the people just so creative and they were involved, they

1239
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 5: were they were engaged in what we were doing.

1240
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 4: So it was huge.

1241
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: What does that say to you about how you are

1242
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: endeared and how you developed that relationship and that love

1243
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 3: for New York to say that, like you from Pineland, Texas.

1244
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: You start, I said, I thought you was from York

1245
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: d and you just said, that's home. Tell me what

1246
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: does that mean to you to know that, like I

1247
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: grew on this place, and this place grew on me,

1248
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: and now it is what it is, that's my I'll

1249
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: never not be from Pinland, but New York is my home.

1250
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 5: It became my home because not only did I play

1251
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: in the Garden and of course you know it's Manhattan,

1252
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 5: but I represented every borough. I couldn't have just one.

1253
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 4: I represented every borough and.

1254
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 5: To be accepted, to be accepted, and it was nowhere

1255
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 5: that I could go in New York and no one

1256
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 5: knew me. I could cover up and they say, yeah,

1257
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 5: but I know those feet, Yeah, I know how your feet.

1258
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 4: They wouldn't know.

1259
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 5: And to be embraced the way that that city embraced me,

1260
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 5: that's home. I can't say anything but great things about

1261
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 5: New York City, and it's just a great place to

1262
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: stay back into it. What's really crazy, some people sometimes

1263
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 5: think I'm still playing. I'm like, no, I've been gone

1264
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 5: away from the game. But it really feels good to

1265
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 5: know that you still feel me?

1266
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 4: You still feel me?

1267
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: That's your fine question. Out of every burrow, what did

1268
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: you like about that borrow?

1269
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 4: That's really crazy? Where I really hung out the most,

1270
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 4: It's Harlem, Harlem. I was in Harlem.

1271
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: The most hall of them is the most flash you

1272
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: know is crap. I love it.

1273
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: I loved everything about it.

1274
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 5: And anytime they saw me by myself, they thought that

1275
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 5: was the weirdest thing in the world.

1276
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: Why are you here by yourself? You're not trying to

1277
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: I don't do that.

1278
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 5: I want you to know I know better than you.

1279
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 5: I'm just living a dream. I'm living my dream. I

1280
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: want you to feel a part of me, and me

1281
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: a part of you. I've touched me.

1282
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: I think that's why people like being so much. We

1283
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: stayed in the mall and high school guys.

1284
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: I'm the first to say, like, my New York years

1285
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: were not my best years of my career. But like

1286
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: you said, they knew that I shot straight. They knew

1287
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't no sucker. I wasn't with no sucker shit.

1288
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: You weren't gonna punk me all this, and like I

1289
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: related to them because I was like any other New

1290
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: York I was. I acted like like you said, I

1291
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: put my shoes and my pens on one leg at

1292
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: the time. I'm not better than you. I'm the same

1293
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: as you. I'm amongst the people like you could see

1294
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: to I done. Have dude come talk crazy to me,

1295
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: and I talk crazy back to him, so they see

1296
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: that I'm the same as them. I'm gonna return whatever

1297
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 3: energy you bringing. I'm from Chicago now, so is it?

1298
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 3: It could be whatever you want to be. Yeah, So,

1299
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: like you know, I felt like that was the way

1300
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: I felt about New York because you know, you played that.

1301
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 6: We all know like people come.

1302
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 3: To New York, you ain't built the right way, you

1303
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: gonna you gotta go ahead with your tail between your

1304
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: lives because they gonna test you on every level and

1305
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 3: if you not resilient and if you not built a

1306
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: certain type of way with a certain level or a

1307
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 3: layer of tough skin, because they gonna talk. The one

1308
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 3: thing I always respected and loved about New York because

1309
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: I had to took me a time to figure it

1310
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 3: out because I first got that what is that, like

1311
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, I'm but then like after you understand them,

1312
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: you see, like hold up, once you get to the team,

1313
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 3: they feel like you are and we yours like we

1314
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 3: could say what we want to say, but bet nobody

1315
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 3: else do that.

1316
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 6: Ship We're gonna bite their head off.

1317
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: You come fire player, like we could do what we

1318
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 3: want to do right here because we got our.

1319
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 6: Things going on.

1320
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: But like if you do it, like all right, don't

1321
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 3: cross me like you feel me. And once I saw that,

1322
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 3: I was okay, cool.

1323
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: I'm going at you.

1324
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 6: It didn't matter. Clubs game, well, you could see me.

1325
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 6: I respect that.

1326
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 4: They respect that. A couple of fans. I was like, okay,

1327
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: keep that same energy, get out, you got a butt kicked.

1328
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 4: They talking at trash and said keep.

1329
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 5: The same energy, And I said, tell me where you

1330
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 5: sit because I want you when to come back in here.

1331
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 5: As soon as we played. They told me where they said.

1332
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 5: I had no problems going right there to him. Now

1333
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 5: high fire me. Now how keep the same in and

1334
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 5: take my Yeah, And they respect that. They respect that

1335
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 5: you're gonna come right back at them. They respect it.

1336
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: How was it when you first got the coach in

1337
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 3: the NBA? Like staying shout out to my man stand

1338
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 3: Van gund to everybody know I got big love film,

1339
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 3: Like I was super hype when I saw you know

1340
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying that he hired you and you were

1341
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: gonna be on that because I was like, dangn. I

1342
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: was like, that's dope, you know, and I knew that

1343
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: you were going to be great. But for you, how

1344
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: was it for you walking in the door, you know,

1345
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: a new challenge and a new situation?

1346
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 6: What was that?

1347
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 5: Like you said, it was a challenge, and that's all

1348
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 5: I'm about. I'm about the challenge. But my first year

1349
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 5: was under gentry couch gentry, and I actually.

1350
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 4: Went, yeah, yeah, you know, I know.

1351
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 5: So I went from the way I started was going

1352
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 5: back and forth to the Glee.

1353
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, back and forth. I was two weeks in g League,

1354
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 4: two weeks with the big guys, back and forth, back

1355
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 4: and forth.

1356
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 5: And I accepted that because I want once again, I

1357
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 5: wanted to earn my keep.

1358
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 4: I wanted to earn my keep.

1359
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 6: You know.

1360
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're just coming fresh off of being a

1361
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 5: Hall of Famer that I would earn my key. You

1362
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 5: can google up all that stuff you want, but I

1363
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 5: want you to know who I am the person I

1364
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 5: want to earn every single thing everything that you see

1365
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 5: that I earned that, So now it's time to earn

1366
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 5: something more. So I would take this responsibility. I'm going

1367
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 5: to earn my way up to a seat, and that's

1368
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 5: how I feel about everything.

1369
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 4: Stand put me in the back of the bitch. I'm

1370
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 4: still back there in the back of the bench.

1371
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 5: But that's not where I sit. That's not where I sit.

1372
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 5: I can't become complacent. If I become complacent, and I'm

1373
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 5: okay that everyone else sees complacency in me, so it's

1374
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 5: not That's not who I am, not what I'll ever be.

1375
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 5: So I'm pushing to be even better and get even more.

1376
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what's gonna make it so verified

1377
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: when you become a coach in the NBA. Because I

1378
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: know you're gonna become a coach. We're gonna see it

1379
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: right here right now. You can come coach that you speak.

1380
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: You don't take no shortcuts. So when the dudes come

1381
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: to time, it's like, Man, I earned everything that I had,

1382
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: And like I say, me and Q, we love you

1383
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: to death, and man, were definitely rooting for you, and

1384
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: we're so excited for the opportunity that you have and

1385
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: you get the history that's gonna be made because it's time.

1386
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: That's the ultimate moves that started moving because there's so

1387
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: many of you all that is infiltrating the scene and

1388
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 3: it's earned. It's not by anything being handed or giving out.

1389
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: But you guys are setting the stage and opening those

1390
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: doors for so many others like you to come behind.

1391
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: And y'all are the first one, which is you know,

1392
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 3: like you say, that started the movement, but the movement

1393
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 3: contains with everybody that's knowing that now it's achievable because

1394
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: they open those doors and they showed me that this

1395
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 3: can actually happen because look they doing it, and then

1396
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: y'all doing it the way y'all doing.

1397
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: I love to see it. I hope you keep all

1398
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: fighting to be an NBA coach. You guys have because

1399
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: you deserve all.

1400
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 5: You're saying what this means for us as women, what

1401
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 5: this means for us to come from you all, and

1402
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 5: you've played it, You've done it in the NBA level,

1403
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 5: you've done it. And for you to say what you're

1404
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 5: saying about us as women and the way that you're

1405
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 5: saying and knowing that we're capable, and that's the most

1406
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 5: important thing. We're capable. I'm not coming in here. Basketball

1407
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 5: is basketball, and of course you see me as a

1408
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 5: female athlete. I see you as a male athletes, right,

1409
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: but when that ball goes up, it's made the best

1410
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 5: athlete win.

1411
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 4: And I'm just as.

1412
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 5: Freaking competitive as you are, just as hard as you are.

1413
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 5: I might not jump as it, might not be as quick,

1414
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 5: might not be as strong, but I'm gonna use this.

1415
00:56:59,280 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 4: That's what this.

1416
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 3: Nobody can't tell the whole story of basketball without you

1417
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: being in it.

1418
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 6: I appreciate that if you being real, nancee, Lisa, all

1419
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 6: of y'all, everybody.

1420
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 4: To be on this side, you know this is big

1421
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 4: to say, to be on the NBA side.

1422
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 5: I don't want to be a checkbox, you know. I

1423
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 5: don't want to be a chickbox. I'm just taking my

1424
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 5: rifle place. I'm just taking my rifle. I want to

1425
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 5: earn everything I get. Don't give me nothing, don't check

1426
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 5: a box, don't do that to me. Know that I'm

1427
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 5: going to earn my key.

1428
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: I loved when I saw you begin working with the

1429
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: Pelicans and stuff, cause I was like.

1430
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 6: I would go crazy if t spoilers over there yelling it.

1431
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: I just know the energy, Like just five minutes ago,

1432
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: I was getting all going like and so I have

1433
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: no doubt in my mind that you, others and all

1434
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: can have the same impact. I'm glad to see Becky

1435
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: Hammond getting her chance. I wish you would have got

1436
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 3: a head job in the NBA, but I still believe

1437
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 3: she's gonna do great things in the w n b A.

1438
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 3: She's brought the torch to this point to get women

1439
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: closer to that point, and she's been a huge part

1440
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: of that movement. And she can't ever be forgotten for that,

1441
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: regardless if she wented to the WNBA, because I feel

1442
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 3: like she she was entitled to that, if she was

1443
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: offered and that was something she wanted to do. You know,

1444
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: I do understand that it comes to a point where

1445
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: whoever you are, you might get to the point where

1446
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: you want to try and you want to lead and

1447
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: see how you do it leading, whether it's here, you know,

1448
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: like I've had friends that took college jobs over going

1449
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: to the NBA because they get a chance to lead

1450
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 3: and see what they do. So she earned that right

1451
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: to do whatever she felt was best for her, and

1452
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: she still deserves the credit that she brought the torch

1453
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: this far and now whoever else picks it up, she

1454
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: still brought it that far. She broke down barriers in

1455
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: her own way too.

1456
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 5: When she got in, she opened doors for everyone. And

1457
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 5: you have to remember when you when you get in,

1458
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 5: it's not only just about you. How can you knock

1459
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 5: the door down knowing that there's other women who are

1460
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 5: capable of getting a job done. And with her getting

1461
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 5: in with an unfortunate situation happening in her by tearing

1462
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 5: her knee and then being in meetings with coach Pop

1463
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 5: and he getting an opportunity to hear her basketball, and

1464
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 5: she's now on the bench there coaching. So something great

1465
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 5: came out of something that was so unfortunate. And of

1466
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 5: course you know when you met have to make these decisions.

1467
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 5: It's about the moment. What is best for you at

1468
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 5: that moment. It doesn't mean that if it.

1469
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: Comes back around that at that come back around, this

1470
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 4: is time. It doesn't mean that. It just mean at

1471
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 4: that moment.

1472
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 6: You had a chance to join the Mercury coaching staff.

1473
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 6: What was it about New Orleans it made you choose

1474
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 6: to stay here?

1475
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, such a great question, and it was something that

1476
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 5: I thought about for an entire week, a lot of

1477
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 5: nights of crying because the W means a lot to

1478
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 5: me and most people always talk about that the W

1479
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 5: is less than the NBA and it's not as basketball. Still,

1480
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 5: the W has a great meaning to me and my

1481
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 5: growth and development in the game of basketball and the

1482
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 5: exposure as well. So I had a long conversation with

1483
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 5: my family and everyone who meant a lot to me,

1484
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 5: mentors and asked one question that I thought was valuable

1485
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 5: is have I given myself a chance? And that was

1486
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 5: big for me building something on the NBA side, and

1487
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 5: what the organization of Pelicans organization was. Did I give

1488
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 5: myself an opportunity And I'm never going to run if

1489
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 5: I haven't given everything that I have to give for

1490
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 5: the opportunity.

1491
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 4: And that played in.

1492
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 5: The factors of me saying give yourself the chance, give

1493
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 5: yourself an opportunity. And it was very difficult because people

1494
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 5: will talk about the W, well, why would you not

1495
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 5: want to go back to the W?

1496
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 4: The W is less than the NBA.

1497
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 5: No, No, it's not. The W means everything to me.

1498
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 5: It means absolutely everything to me and would do anything

1499
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 5: for it to keep it alive. Whatever I would have

1500
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 5: to do, I would keep it alive. But you do

1501
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 5: what's best for you at the moment, because when I

1502
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 5: tell you, Phoenix was They were absolutely excellent, excellent with me.

1503
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 5: It's a great thing when people hear what you have

1504
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 5: and they appreciate what you have and they know that

1505
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 5: it's capable or you have the ability to go and

1506
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 5: get it done. They gave me even more motivation for

1507
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 5: the things that they said about me.

1508
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: You went in the locker room. M I love to

1509
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: see that when you first heard that you was inducted

1510
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame? Hol is that?

1511
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 8: Like?

1512
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 4: These people crazy?

1513
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 6: That's top?

1514
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: How was that to be a Hall of Famer?

1515
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: You were one of the greats, No matter what anybody say,

1516
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: you were one of the greats. Like, how is that?

1517
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: To be a Hall of Famer? And just to go

1518
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: through that whole Hall of Fame experience.

1519
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 5: It was great for my family, not just for me.

1520
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 5: It was great for my family because of the struggle

1521
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 5: and for them to sacrifice for me because of a

1522
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 5: game that I loved and it was something that we

1523
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 5: went through together. And to know that I was at

1524
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 5: the end of walking away. I didn't retire, walking away

1525
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 5: and transitioning into something else. To know that the game

1526
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 5: didn't forget about you as you walked away, that was

1527
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 5: probably the most important thing for me and my family.

1528
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 5: It is for us to celebrate everything that we've ever

1529
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 5: gone through in our lives. To have me to have

1530
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 5: the opportunity to walk in front of the world of

1531
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 5: basketball and stand in that position with many people that

1532
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 5: have stood there, and then to be brought in with

1533
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 5: those three Tina foops and cool. It was the best

1534
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 5: feeling to know that this is how it's topped off.

1535
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 5: Just to look out there and see all the people

1536
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 5: who's done it, and now you were there being celebrated.

1537
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 6: What I want to know is this Pineland, Texas.

1538
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: You come from humble beginnings, come a long way though, yeah,

1539
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: real long way.

1540
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 6: You came all the way to New York.

1541
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: So I feel like when you was in New York

1542
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: at some point, you was at a point you had

1543
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: a lot of conference on, you was making good money,

1544
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 3: you was feeling good. What did tea spoon to do

1545
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 3: to treat herself? I don't want hear about about my mama.

1546
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: This so about and I'm talking about what a teaspoon

1547
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: do to treat us? So was it a big body bens?

1548
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: What did te spoon do? The swag out one time

1549
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 3: where you look at it now that you are. I

1550
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 3: probably should have never did that, but it was good when.

1551
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 2: I got it.

1552
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 6: We all did. We all had that couple of things

1553
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 6: where we did.

1554
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 5: So, yeah, I shouldn't did that, right, Well, let me

1555
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 5: take you back, now, let me take you back.

1556
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 4: I said.

1557
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 5: I had to be planning and making all that money

1558
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 5: and we weren't making all that money in WBA.

1559
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 4: Now, so I had to be careful with what I

1560
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 4: would do, had to be very careful.

1561
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 5: The only thing I did probably for myself, that was

1562
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 5: probably one of the biggest and I still have the

1563
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 5: car to this day. To this day, I still have it.

1564
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 5: I got myself a push that's probably the biggest thing.

1565
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 5: What I'm gonna say, Like they said the push out,

1566
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 5: I did and I and I normally don't splurge on myself.

1567
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 4: It's all on my fans.

1568
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 6: That was a tool seated though. That's nice.

1569
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 5: But guess when the Splurgs came. See the cars are ten.

1570
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 5: See our lady took me to Splurgs on myself ten.

1571
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 6: So I got it.

1572
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 4: It's a panamarapordor oh okay, okay, that's about it for me.

1573
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: That's about it.

1574
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: I want to ask you start bench cut you gotta

1575
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 1: start one. You got a bench, one, you gotta cut one.

1576
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: Tissapana Terror, Teresa Elwards, Don Staley. Who you start? Who

1577
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: you bench? Who you cut?

1578
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's tough. I'm gonna have to start three, said's.

1579
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 5: I'll benched day and I have to cut team.

1580
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 6: Ooh that was hard.

1581
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: I love you man, you know that that was hard.

1582
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: Let me ask you your favorite your favorite don't got

1583
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: to be top five, but your favorite five women's basketball player.

1584
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 4: This is really gonna be crazy, all right.

1585
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 5: I got three sandwagem Trew Miller, Katrina McClain, Lynette Woodard,

1586
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 5: Lynette Woodard, and I'd have to put Centia Cooper there.

1587
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 4: M yeah, some of my favorites.

1588
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 6: I like that.

1589
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: I definitely like that. I ain't heard that name.

1590
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 5: I mean, and I think sometimes we fail to recognize

1591
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 5: what they've done, you know, And I mean I fall

1592
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 5: on their shoulders. I fall on their shoulders. So I

1593
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 5: got to recognize what they've done for me.

1594
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I stopped asking the question about who's

1595
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: your top five instead of who's your favorite? Who inspires you?

1596
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: And the ones that you saying, like, nah, that was

1597
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: my player? Because them the ones that mean the most

1598
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I want how to.

1599
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: Ask you about three people a part of the organization. Yeah,

1600
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: you know you can give us a take.

1601
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: Zion Williams, you know, a god so high profile coming

1602
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: to the team. I know it's a lot of pressure.

1603
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: I know he's a good kid, want to do the

1604
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: right thing. But his transition, what do you do to

1605
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: help him transition into coming back and doing what he

1606
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: FoST I have.

1607
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 4: An opportunity to work with him.

1608
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 5: He's one of the guys that I work with, And

1609
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 5: first of all, I want to say this is he's

1610
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 5: an amazing young guy. Yes, and when I think people

1611
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 5: fail to realize he's twenty one years old. Baby, he's

1612
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 5: finding himself and I get tremendously frustrated when I hear

1613
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 5: all the talk about him. Let's have something where we're

1614
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 5: talking to him to help him. I don't like all

1615
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 5: the other stuff. You become a part of the problem

1616
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 5: when we're doing that. He's a wonderful young man who

1617
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 5: only wants to do great things. He knows his name

1618
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 5: is out there, he knows how big he is, so

1619
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 5: all he wants to do is great things. And all

1620
01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 5: he wants to do is play the game of basketball.

1621
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 5: When you talk to him, you're talking to a very

1622
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 5: intelligent young man who knows his direction. He knows his direction.

1623
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 5: He's just now going to get himself there.

1624
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: That's it.

1625
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 4: That's the bottom line.

1626
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: I hate when they talk about just kids that they

1627
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: haven't did nothing wrong, got in no trouble or nothing,

1628
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: and it's still something for them to talk about.

1629
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: I hate that.

1630
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: But I'm a big fan of his and I'm definitely

1631
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: rooting and playing for him.

1632
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I am too.

1633
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 3: I think it's a situation where we have to deal

1634
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 3: with everybody for who they are. We can't put expectations

1635
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: as to Like I've heard things like, well, you know

1636
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: Lebron came out and did Lebron is Lebron Lebron was?

1637
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 3: You know, he is who he is. He's unbelievable. He's

1638
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: been able to any type of issues and stuff like

1639
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 3: that for this long and he's unbelievable when he's getting

1640
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 3: what he deserves for all of those things. But like,

1641
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: we can't put that on anybody else. Zion and Zion,

1642
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: every guy that gets you, the next guy that gets

1643
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: picked number one, he'll be his own individual self and

1644
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: he'll have his own individual issues that he has to navigate,

1645
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 3: and we can't take and compare and put them side

1646
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: by side because every situation is different. I feel like

1647
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 3: that's what's kind of happening to him. You know, obviously

1648
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 3: he's an unbelievable talent. That's a lightning boat topic right

1649
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 3: now because of the things that's going on. Anytime you're

1650
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 3: not playing, they gonna be talking crap about you. So

1651
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: you know, we got a lot of love for wishing

1652
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 3: the best, and we hope you get back soon and

1653
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: just be back out there plan because we know once

1654
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 3: you get back playing, all the other stuff goes.

1655
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 4: It's gonna all go away.

1656
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 5: And he's an unbelievable talent you ought and to be

1657
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 5: present and see it every day, I haven't seen anything

1658
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 5: like it. The explosiveness, the power, the speed, the quickness.

1659
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 4: He's very, very smart. His IQ is off the charts.

1660
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 4: He understands this game in and out.

1661
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 5: He knows how to get it done and how to

1662
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 5: keep everybody around the casual successful.

1663
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 4: They don't know any of that. They don't know how

1664
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 4: hard he.

1665
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 5: Studies the game, how much he studies the game. I

1666
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to talk to him, and my only

1667
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 5: thing is this, I'm in this journey with you.

1668
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 4: I'm in it with you. I am you. And they'll

1669
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 4: tell you this is what I say.

1670
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 5: I am you, you are me. If you hurt, I hurt.

1671
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 5: If you go through, I go through. So everything that

1672
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 5: you do, everything that happens, we go through this together.

1673
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 5: So this journey with this young man, I'm going through

1674
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 5: it with him and I'm a following me and he's

1675
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 5: going to do greater things than what most people can

1676
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 5: ever imagine.

1677
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: Another player All Star like how just to see you

1678
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 2: see the KD.

1679
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: KD is one of the best players and it's just

1680
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: like a baby KD. But he's the next generation. He

1681
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: can do a lot of stuff with this game. He

1682
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: got a lot of talent. Definitely we are big fans

1683
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: of this game. But just speak on brandon Ingram.

1684
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 5: That's a bad boy. That's a bad boy. He's a

1685
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 5: three level scorer. He can do whatever you want to.

1686
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 5: His confidence is unreal. You know, he believes in everything

1687
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 5: that he does. He doesn't believe there's anyone anyone who

1688
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 5: can defend him. And that's the confidence you have to have,

1689
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 5: especially with the responsibility that lies on his shoulders, especially

1690
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 5: bringing our team along and being the face of our

1691
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 5: squad right now and leading. He's leading, he learning to lead.

1692
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 5: But what I like the most about him now is

1693
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 5: he's able to now make everybody better. He's making everybody

1694
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 5: better around him. He sees the game with tremendous ease.

1695
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 5: But he's playing defense. He's on the defensive side of

1696
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 5: the ball. He's adding so much to his game that

1697
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 5: he's great offensively and he's being much better on the

1698
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball. And when you can be

1699
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 5: that two way player with the abilities that the abilities,

1700
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 5: not the ability, the abilities that he has, this guy's

1701
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 5: name is going to ring forever in this league because

1702
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 5: he's just as good as anyone else that these names

1703
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 5: are ringing telling he's just as.

1704
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 6: Good I was early on him. I like his smoothness,

1705
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

1706
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: But I definitely love the fact that, like you said,

1707
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 3: he's starting to be able to be a triple double thread.

1708
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 6: He's facilitating.

1709
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 3: He could dish the ball, getting double figures this and

1710
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 3: then he locking up, he rebound and beating stuff on

1711
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 3: the glass, and he moving them puppies. I ain't got

1712
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 3: no complaint company.

1713
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 4: He's only going to get better. I mean he's just

1714
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 4: scratching the surface.

1715
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: One more person swim cast.

1716
01:09:52,840 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I was the class that's part of

1717
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: the organization. Like it's too much, it's too She's definitely

1718
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: a good person, Like just tell us about swim cash

1719
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: and her being important the organization and women.

1720
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 2: In this organization doing your things.

1721
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 4: That's how I'm here. That's how I'm here. Once she

1722
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 4: was brought along, she brought me with her, and that

1723
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 4: was due to us being with the Liberty.

1724
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 5: Both of us was with the Liberty and I actually

1725
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 5: trained Swim. I trained Swim for her final season. Swim

1726
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 5: would say to me, hey, look, I'm thirty six. I

1727
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 5: can't do what I used to do. I grabbed my

1728
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 5: bag with my bag on my shoulder, and I walked out.

1729
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 5: I was like, you can't do it. Okay, fine, you

1730
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 5: cannot have a number and say I can't do what

1731
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 5: I used to do.

1732
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 4: Can't is real.

1733
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 5: But I can say I can't yet yet and put

1734
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 5: can't and yet together it's possibility. So I was like,

1735
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 5: I put my bag on my shoulder. You said you

1736
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 5: can't do it, I'm out of here. When you feel

1737
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 5: like you can't holler at me, holler at me, so no,

1738
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 5: you can't go into it like that. And Swim works

1739
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 5: so hard and got herself ready for that season. We

1740
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 5: worked our butts off. So when she got this job,

1741
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 5: she said, you're coming with me, She said, this is.

1742
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 4: Where you belong. This is where you belong. Swim.

1743
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 5: I love her so much for for trusting and believing

1744
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 5: and stamping her name on my name.

1745
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 4: That meant a lot to me. But what she's doing, no,

1746
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 4: it's not.

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Speaker 5: There's a level of trust there, level of belief and

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Speaker 5: what she's doing and how she's changing things for women

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Speaker 5: in the front office.

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Speaker 4: It's unreal.

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Speaker 5: How she carries herself and when everyone sees her, you know,

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Speaker 5: they see perfection.

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Speaker 2: Just like I know her every time.

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01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 3: And she is always so so super cool and a

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Speaker 3: great move, uplifting and everybody like I'm telling you, like

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: we work together, a turn like you, it'd be just

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Speaker 3: a fun time. They back in the makeup room, singing

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Speaker 3: and dancing and doing different stuff.

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Speaker 6: She was always great to be around.

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Speaker 4: She's fun, she's fun to be around.

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Speaker 5: She's a straight shooter, you know, and that's what you

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Speaker 5: want from someone like hers, to tell you.

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Speaker 6: What it is.

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Speaker 3: You know, what I'm saying you feel you know what

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Speaker 3: it is. Well, listen, this has been amazing. Weird appreciate

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Speaker 3: you pulling up on us, coming through y'all here and

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Speaker 3: to buy you. You know what I'm saying, New Orleans

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Speaker 3: and your backyard right now, this was amazing. They can't

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Speaker 3: tell the story of basketball without having some teaspoone in there.

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Speaker 6: Like look, we didn't pull it up.

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Speaker 3: Got the blackest one in New Orleans might get some

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Speaker 3: being as lady. We appreciate you this. This is like

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Speaker 3: for real, both of our one of of our favorites.

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Speaker 6: Want to hear. Look, mama, we made they got your

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Speaker 6: boys on.

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Speaker 4: The back of the that's it right there.

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Speaker 6: That's not everybody in the hood proud of us.

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Speaker 2: Thank on that yeack now, so you know you there.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you got so much.

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Speaker 3: This is like for real, dope, you want our all

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Speaker 3: time favorites. We still love everything you're doing. We wish

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Speaker 3: you nothing but the best and continued success and keep

1785
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Speaker 3: representing got it.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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