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Speaker 1: Joel Klatt is around the corner, so I gotta start

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Speaker 1: this hour with it. This happened yesterday or the day before.

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Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday. The tweet came out from

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. So Sean Payton coached the Denver Broncos. When

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Speaker 1: he got to Denver, he and Russell Wilson and I

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Speaker 1: had set it on the air, this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a personality clash. I know Sean had dinner with Sean.

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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of discussion with Sean. Shawn is blunt,

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Speaker 1: Sean is up front, Shawn is authentic, Sean didn't care

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Speaker 1: what you think about him.

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Speaker 3: And Russell can be you know, very I.

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Speaker 1: Would say, almost political, a little bit more calculated. And

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Speaker 1: when Russell had his own office there in the Denver building.

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Speaker 1: That was not gonna play with Sean Payton. So it

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Speaker 1: never worked. Sean didn't view him as the future. He

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Speaker 1: was overpaid, and Sean was gonna get rid of him.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't ever gonna work. And so Shawn's taking a

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Speaker 1: few shots at Russell and after coming back to beat

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Speaker 1: the Giants and Jackson Dart who replaced Russell. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Seawan said after the game Sunday.

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Speaker 4: It was a great win, good team effort to fight back.

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Speaker 4: Tip your hats to New York. Those guys that found

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Speaker 4: a new juice about him, and you could see that

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Speaker 4: on tape. You know, they found a little spark with

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Speaker 4: that quarterback. Was talking to John Mayor not too long ago,

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Speaker 4: and I said, we were hoping that that change would

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Speaker 4: have happened long long after our game.

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Speaker 3: Well out.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson did not like that, went to X classless,

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Speaker 1: not surprised. Didn't realize you're still bounty hunting fifteen plus

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Speaker 1: years later through the media.

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Speaker 3: Let's ride. Let's ride.

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Speaker 1: You knew that was coming. First of all, the Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson story is crazy. It deserves a Netflix special. So

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's last two years at North Carolina State seventy

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns, best record for NC State in eight years,

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Speaker 1: and the coach demoted him, said, They're not going to

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go with Mike Glennon.

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Speaker 1: So he goes to Wisconsin, he scores thirty nine touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: they go eleven and three and go to the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Wisconsin scored thirty nine touchdowns since he left,

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Speaker 1: and yet he only went in the third round of

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Speaker 1: the draft. He got disrespected again. And then in Seattle

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, the defense got all the talent. So Russell

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Speaker 1: he didn't get respect in Wisconsin even though he's easily

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Speaker 1: the most productive quarterback they've ever had for a single season,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't get a ton of respect in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: And I think I think Russell's tired of it. I

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Speaker 1: think he's just tired of it. And I mean, Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll chose Geno Smith over him. Sean Payton was willing

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Speaker 1: to deal with the worst dead cap hit in league history.

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Speaker 1: To go with bow Knicks, Mike Tomlin said, I'll go

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Speaker 1: with old Aaron Rodgers, who gets hurt more and Brian

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Speaker 1: Davills being investigated by the league because he went over

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Speaker 3: So you know, zero for four with coaches.

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Speaker 1: But I think the bigger issue is russ Field's disrespected.

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Speaker 3: But there is a truth about smaller quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, how is to his career gone

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, How's Kyler Murray's career gone

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Speaker 1: He's lost his last seven starts. There are limitations with

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Speaker 1: smaller quarterbacks. They don't last as long and they do

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Speaker 1: not age well. Russell to Kyler Murray, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I do think it is hard when your entire life

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Speaker 3: I mean, and to show you more.

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Speaker 1: Disrespect that Russell Wilson had when he was at the

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Speaker 1: top of his game, a unicorn talent, a playmaker. The Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: So I do think we all have limitations. I think

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Speaker 1: over and over and over again. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: Russell feels, and that's why he clapped back. He just

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Speaker 3: And I get it, and I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Sean should have taken a shot at him,

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Speaker 1: but I think Russell's always been above that of punching back.

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Speaker 1: And I think Yesterday's like, I'm over it. I'm over it,

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Speaker 1: and I get it. The guys NC State, Wisconsin Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith, I get it. And with that, Joel Clatt,

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Speaker 1: the Voice of College Football, is joining us live. We'll

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Speaker 1: have the UCLA Indiana game, which is UCLA is a

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Speaker 1: crazy story.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's so weird.

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Speaker 1: They get rid of their coach and they have a

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Speaker 1: completely different vibe, feel energy and juice. For the record,

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Speaker 1: does UCLA have any chance? I mean, it's pretty interesting

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Speaker 1: what they're doing offensively. Do they have any chance to

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean they're playing substantially better football and they

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Speaker 5: still have a five star quarterback. This is what I

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Speaker 5: are opportunities for a team like UCLA to go out

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Speaker 5: And it starts with their quarterback and he's got a

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Speaker 5: I think you're exactly right. But also these two coordinators

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Speaker 5: and I think it shows on film when I'm watching UCLA.

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Speaker 5: It's drastically different with the way that they play in

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Speaker 5: So they're playing a lot better, but I will tell

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Speaker 5: you this is an uphill battle because this Indiana team

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Speaker 1: So when Ohio State went and got Chip Kelly from

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Speaker 1: the NFL and Matt Patricia, it shows you the meshing

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Speaker 1: in college and pro football. I mean, Belichick going to

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Speaker 3: Well, no, you're seeing.

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Speaker 1: NFL guys steel offensive stuff. From college. You're seeing NFL

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Speaker 1: a million bucks a year. But it's interesting. So the

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Speaker 1: outther thing that's happening to college football that has an

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan play. Oh, it's burr, it's cold. Then

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Speaker 1: you go play somewhere in Orlando. You go to a nice,

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Speaker 1: sunny life location. The college football Playoff is very NFL.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna play in crappy weather. That wasn't the case.

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Speaker 1: So the best teams are now. Then I'm going to

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame is not. They don't need DNTE more slinging

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Speaker 1: I watched Notre Dame and I thought, every year we

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Speaker 1: watched this in the NFL, Joe Joel, there's two football

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Speaker 1: seasons pre Thanksgiving and post we want to college football

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Speaker 1: now is going to have a little bit of that feel.

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Speaker 1: And I watched Notre Dame Saturday and I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: to the playoff. Am I crazy? No, You're not crazy.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I based an entire episode of my podcast

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Speaker 5: around this exact topic.

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Speaker 3: You can actually go out. It's out today.

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Speaker 5: You should go over the Joel Plat Show on YouTube

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Speaker 5: and subscribe and check it out.

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Speaker 3: And it's basically this.

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Speaker 5: I went and with Chris bart Felka, so I brought

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Speaker 5: Bear on and we did a National Championship draft.

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Speaker 5: To your point, he proposed on a conference call, like, Hey,

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Speaker 5: how far would you get down the list if you're

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Speaker 5: just drafting teams all or nothing to win the national Championship?

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Speaker 5: How far would you get before you drafted Notre Dame?

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Speaker 5: And we all thought to ourselves, like, man, easily in

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Speaker 5: lot different. They look like a different team with a

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Speaker 5: with Jeremiah Love and Gineeran Price. Those guys can absolutely

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Speaker 5: Now as I'm starting to really see this and evaluate it,

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Speaker 5: I know the playoff is going to be twelve. But

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Speaker 5: there are six teams that I'm like, you know what,

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Speaker 5: any given week, any given run through the playoff, these

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Speaker 5: of those. And I think you're spot on. They do

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Speaker 5: the foundationally things correct. When the line of scrimmage, run

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Speaker 5: just say is that this sport still is dominated by defense.

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Speaker 5: As much as we watch in awe of great offensive play.

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Speaker 5: The last four national champions Georgia had the number one

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Speaker 5: defense in college football. Georgia had the number four defense

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Speaker 1: Hey, I want to ask you because you do work

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Speaker 1: for the draft, and so when college football and pro

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Speaker 1: football converge, and I think more than ever, I think

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Speaker 1: the playoff feels very NFL. The nil they're being paid,

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Speaker 1: But college football today, in the last three years, feels

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Speaker 1: I look at your top ten. You have Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something I am. I am rooting

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Speaker 1: He saw it, and Calin de Boor inherited a less

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Speaker 5: I don't want to speculate on his account, but I

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Speaker 3: His record proves that. Yeah, wherever he's been great.

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Speaker 5: And he's got a quarterback right now in Ty Simpson

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Speaker 3: No, I think so too. They don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't look as ferocious defensively, they don't look as

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Speaker 3: All right, And I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna ask USC questions. I know they're uncomfortable for you.

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Speaker 1: It's just listen, after four years, you are what you are.

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Speaker 5: Don't you think you're Don't you think you're seeing a

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Speaker 1: Let's see, they go on the road. They can't beat Illinois,

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Speaker 5: I think I think USC makes the playoff in the

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, standards kind of dropped, hasn't it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we're lating, We're not the we're

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Speaker 1: All right, Clad, it's good to see anybody.

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Speaker 3: You as well, have a good day, dude. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't want ping pong tables at work,

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Speaker 1: In year six you get into the playoffs. Oh, mister

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Speaker 1: crazy talk over here. My rule is, if you're at

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Speaker 1: All right, somebody's got to do the heavy lifting here.

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Speaker 1: So I was just informed the Kansas City Chiefs have

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Speaker 1: a ping pong table in their facility. Well that's why

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Speaker 1: I said when the year started, the dynasty's over. I mean, seriously,

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Speaker 1: why not just have beer, pong and toasts'mores in near facility?

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Speaker 6: Come on, hold on.

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Speaker 7: So the Chiefs got a new facility. They gave a

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Speaker 7: tour online. It has a ping pong table, shuffle board table,

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Speaker 7: barber's share, and a racing simulator. So the Kansas City

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Speaker 7: Chiefs fun ping pong, slash table, tennis fun.

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Speaker 6: It's good.

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are four and three. Why not just hand out ayahuasca.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's the point of going to work? I

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Speaker 1: mean barber shop. I totally get that. I get get haircuts,

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Speaker 1: totally get that. That's I don't want you wasting time

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Speaker 1: going to the barber.

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Speaker 3: Do it to the facility. Race car driving.

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Speaker 6: You're just ruling with an iron.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: This is why I didn't go to Chicago this week

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Speaker 7: because I heard there's.

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Speaker 6: No ping Pong Taale.

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to Chicago to celebrate you and your

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Speaker 7: big week, your big honor.

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Speaker 3: Come on, J Mack with a news. Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the Herd Line.

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Speaker 6: News, Colin. More quarterback stuff going on around the league.

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Speaker 6: Are you ready for this? Jj? McCarthy not ready to go,

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Speaker 6: according to.

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Speaker 7: The Minnesota Vikings, and they will start Carson Wentz. Once again,

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Speaker 7: Kevin O'Connell's sticking with Wentz.

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Speaker 6: Colin.

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Speaker 7: It's not like there's a controversy here. Wentz has not

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Speaker 7: been good. Here's Kevin O'Connell talking about keeping Carson Wentz

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Speaker 7: at quarterback. JJ.

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Speaker 9: The medical staff, myself, we're all kind of encouraged about

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Speaker 9: where he's at and the progress he's making, but he's

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Speaker 9: just not there. And if this was a Sunday game,

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Speaker 9: maybe it would would be a little bit of a

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Speaker 9: different story. We wanted to have a plan at the

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Speaker 9: quarterback position, and it'll be very similar to last week.

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Speaker 9: Carson will start, Max will be the backup, and JJ

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Speaker 9: will be available in the case of emergency as the third.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna speculate, but the whole thing is weird.

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Speaker 6: It Well, let me give you a little more context.

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Speaker 7: So they have the Chargers followed by the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 7: a divisional matchup that means a lot more than this

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Speaker 7: non conference one. And I think my guess is because O'Connor,

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Speaker 7: Remember he picked McCarthy over Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 6: My guess is they believe a healthy McCarthy.

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Speaker 7: Gives them a better chance to win an important game

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Speaker 7: against the Lions.

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Speaker 6: Huh oh November second, You buying that or.

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Speaker 3: I want to watch it. I've had my doubts from

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Speaker 3: the very beginning.

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Speaker 1: This was the one quarterback in the draft lass I

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Speaker 1: didn't see as an NFL franchise quarterback. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he can't plan in the league, but I wouldn't build

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Speaker 1: around JJ McCarthy. That is how I project his career is.

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Speaker 1: You'll find out very quickly he's not a franchise guy.

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Speaker 1: Could be wrong, been wrong before. I loved Drake May,

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Speaker 1: I love Jayden Daniels, I love Caleb Williams, I love

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Speaker 1: bow Nicks.

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Speaker 3: I thought very.

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Speaker 1: Highly of Pennix, who's been hot and cold, but all

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks are. But he was the one I had

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Speaker 1: doubts about, and he was the one that everybody told

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Speaker 1: me was going to be the star.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the way.

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Speaker 1: Oh everybody, And I kept saying, folks, don't my eyes

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Speaker 1: don't lie. He made about one big throw a game

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Speaker 1: at Michigan. That's not the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Jim Harbaugh remember was hyping in.

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Speaker 7: Jim Harbaugh obviously coaching the Chargers, probably happy to face

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Speaker 7: Carson Wentz week Do we have some Onz numbers on

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Speaker 7: the screen here?

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Speaker 6: Colin?

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Speaker 7: Since taking over in week four, only one quarterback has

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Speaker 7: been worse.

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Speaker 6: Than him in quarterback in uh In.

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Speaker 1: Hasty still remains way too reckless what I mean?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and in the pocket he doesn't inspire confidence.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't have a bet on this game Thursday. Chargers

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Speaker 7: are favored by three off that bad loss. I'll take

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Speaker 7: the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you. Chargers bounce back.

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Speaker 7: Next up, it's official, Jaden Daniels. I'm sorry, folks, Jayden

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Speaker 7: Daniels will not play on Monday against the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: It'll be the Marcus Mariota Show. The team just announced

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Speaker 7: earlier this morning. Dan Quinn, however, did say potentially good

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Speaker 7: news Terry mcclaurin, who we've been rumored that he's going

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Speaker 7: to return for three weeks. Now he's expected to play,

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Speaker 7: and Deebo Samuel should return as well. Now this is interesting.

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Speaker 7: The line has ballooned up to ten and a half.

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Speaker 7: I will preface this, you know when we candicap these games.

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Speaker 7: Next up for the Chiefs Buffalo Bills. Okay, that was

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Speaker 7: a team they lost to last year in the regular season,

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Speaker 7: beat in the AFC title game. Is there a chance

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Speaker 7: the Chiefs kind of sort of overlook Washington with a

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Speaker 7: backup quarterback?

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Speaker 1: And I think, listen these Thursday games. We just watched

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Speaker 1: the Bengals and Joe Flacco beat the Steelers.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, this is Monday night.

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Speaker 3: I'm go Monday and night. I don't bet ten and

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Speaker 3: a half.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't like these big, lobsided scores. I never bet him.

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Speaker 1: I never put him in blazing five. I just I

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Speaker 1: think ten and a half for a bunch of prideful

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Speaker 1: men is too many points. Chiefs playing the Bills, I

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Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't standalone games are weird. I

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Speaker 1: mean I watched Seattle and Houston play one of the

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Speaker 1: ugliest games of the year. I watched Baker struggle against

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Speaker 1: the beat up Lion secondary I don't like these standalone games.

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Speaker 1: I don't like betting them a lot. I did like

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Speaker 1: Detroit in that game, but I'd stay away from me

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Speaker 1: ten and a half too many points.

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Speaker 7: So we just watched Dak Prescott throw the ball literally

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Speaker 7: all over the field ceedee lamb at one hundred yards

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Speaker 7: at halftime. What is Patrick Mahomes who's been performing at

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Speaker 7: a high level with receive ris back? Now, what's Mahomes

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Speaker 7: going to do here? Like a Lottimore in company in

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Speaker 7: that secondary? They are not very Colin. I don't think

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Speaker 7: this is a playoff team this year.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think they are either. I think the

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Speaker 1: NFC is deeper than it's been half a decade.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, final story is the Raiders. Colin. Sorry to compound.

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Speaker 7: Bad news with bad news, but Ashton.

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Speaker 6: Genty is not very happy. Yeah, Colin.

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Speaker 7: I was kind of sort of stunned at this quote

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Speaker 7: from Ashton Genty. Raiders are two and five, just got

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Speaker 7: humiliated by the Chiefs and listen to the rookie kind

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Speaker 7: of pop off here.

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Speaker 3: How long work as hard as I do not to do.

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Speaker 3: I think anybody else's doing all this to lose like that.

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Speaker 9: So if we're being honest, it's been you know, losing

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Speaker 9: culture on you for a long time. You know you

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Speaker 9: have to continue to work to fix that and bring

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Speaker 9: winning back.

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Speaker 3: They got to get better at quarterback.

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Speaker 7: That ain't happening well, And I'm finding a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Ain't no connolling walking through that door.

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Speaker 3: No, they're going to draft a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: But Pete Carroll did say the door is open. Can

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Speaker 6: he Pickett? I don't know if he can kick it

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Speaker 6: down or if he's even.

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Speaker 7: A can stick his foot in the door to keep

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Speaker 7: his first snap against the Chiefs, Colin, he fumbled it.

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Speaker 6: Now, this is interesting.

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Speaker 7: Zach on Staff is a big Raiders fan, and you

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Speaker 7: know the Raiders' offensive line can't open holes for GENTI.

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Speaker 7: Do you want to take a gander who the offensive

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Speaker 7: line coaches?

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Speaker 3: Carrol's son?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're not firing your son, are you?

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Speaker 6: Now? I don't want to steal his thun.

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Speaker 3: But I've told you I'm not a fan of that.

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Speaker 1: That's the Belichick thing in Carolina, highest paid assistant family.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan.

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Speaker 6: So Colin, just winning, baby, just nepo baby.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Did you come up that

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Speaker 1: one by yourself?

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Speaker 7: That was Raiders fan Zach who's very angry, very perturbed

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Speaker 7: with the state of his Raiders right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you get a better draft pick. There's an

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Speaker 1: upside and a very rich quarterback. To Jmack with the news, Well.

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Speaker 2: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd

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Speaker 2: Line News.

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Speaker 3: So NBA was fun last night. It was fun.

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Speaker 1: The Warriors beat the Lakers. They had three months off.

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Speaker 1: It's an old team. But Steve Kerr is one of

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Speaker 1: the smartest guys in the league. He was a great player,

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Speaker 1: he was a good coach, he was a great broadcaster,

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Speaker 1: he was a GM. He is too smart to think

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Speaker 1: this Warrior team in the West is going to beat younger,

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Speaker 1: more athletic Minnesota, younger, more athletic Oklahoma City, bigger, significantly Dallas.

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Speaker 3: They're not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't even gotten to Denver in Houston, they're not.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think Joannis reports yesterday that he was

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Speaker 1: close to signing with the Knicks. Nicks don't have anything

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Speaker 1: to give him. I think the Warriors. This will be

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Speaker 1: my strongest take today. Have a plan and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what it is next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Noone easternn AM Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS

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Speaker 7: Sunday on Fox, It's an NFC East rivalry as breakout

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Speaker 7: rookies Jackson Dart leads the Giants against Hertz Barkley and

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Speaker 7: the Eagles, or McCaffrey.

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Speaker 6: And the Niners take on the Texans or other regional action.

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Speaker 6: Check local listings for the game in your area. Sunday

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Speaker 6: on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Giants Eagles is interesting because the Eagles are not getting

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Speaker 1: a pass rush, so you think to yourself, Okay, Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 1: you got lucky.

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Speaker 3: The last time. Giants.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, they did a pretty good job of

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Speaker 1: protecting jack Jackson Dart against the much better pass rush

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Speaker 1: in Denver. Eagles aren't getting a pass rush and they're

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Speaker 1: not dominating time of possession.

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Speaker 3: Eagles don't have an run game.

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Speaker 1: At all, and so Jackson Dart's gonna get a lot

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Speaker 1: of possessions and a lot of time with the ball

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Speaker 1: and not face a ton of pressure unless the Eagles

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Speaker 1: finally consistently get a great pass rush. They haven't this year,

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Speaker 1: so there's a reason teams, all these teams hang around

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. They can score quickly over the top, but

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Speaker 1: they don't dominate time of possession. They get out gained

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Speaker 1: and they don't create pressure. So I think the Giants.

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Speaker 1: If you watch the way the Giants play, they do

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Speaker 1: get pressure on the quarterback and scataboo and dart moving,

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Speaker 1: you can win time of possession.

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Speaker 3: So unless so, now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Philadelphia flips a magic switch, I think Giants could

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Speaker 1: beat them again. If you look at how the Giants

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Speaker 1: play and what the Eagles are, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: I think it's another close game. So there have been

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Speaker 1: several phases of the Golden State Warriors who beat the

659
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Speaker 1: Lakers last night. There was the pre KD phase splash brothers, Hey,

660
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Speaker 1: they won a title. And then there was the KD phase,

661
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Speaker 1: who that's unfair? Oh one titles? And then there was

662
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Speaker 1: the post KD phase that was the Andrew Wiggins team

663
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Speaker 1: beats Boston. You're getting titles with all of them, and

664
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Speaker 1: then you're all thinking, well, what about the Jimmy Butler phase. Now,

665
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler's a fling, He's not a phase, and I

666
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: think it's time for the fling at the trade deadline

667
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Speaker 1: to end. And I love Jimmy Butler, but Steve Kerr

668
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Speaker 1: is too smart to think that thirty seven year old Staff,

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Speaker 1: thirty five year old Draymond, thirty six year old Jimmy Butler,

670
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Speaker 1: and now thirty nine year old Al Horford can compete

671
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Speaker 1: in the West.

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Speaker 3: They can't. They can't.

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Speaker 1: So last night game won three months off, they can't.

674
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Speaker 1: And what I would do, and I'm told you can

675
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Speaker 1: do it at the trade deadline. They will be able

676
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Speaker 1: to move these pieces at the trade deadline. I would

677
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: trade Jimmy Butler, Jonathan Kaminga and four first round picks

678
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Speaker 1: for Giannis and see if it's enough. Jimmy Butler played

679
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: at Marquette, so he's coming home and he's still a

680
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: lethal free throw shooter, big game performer. Jonathan Kaminga averaged

681
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: twenty a game last year when he didn't play with Steph.

682
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Speaker 1: He just they don't work that well together. Although when

683
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: he didn't play with Steph, he had some really nice nights.

684
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: And he's a better player today and he's only twenty

685
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Speaker 1: three years old. And then four first round picks and

686
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: first round picks are going to be more valuable than

687
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Speaker 1: they were the previous decade. This last draft, very domestic,

688
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: very good, twenty twenty six draft is supposed to be better.

689
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: Why two things are happening in college basketball. The best

690
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: players are staying in college longer because they get paid

691
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Speaker 1: now nil. So you get a better, older, more refined

692
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Speaker 1: player out of college. Draft picks for the last fifteen

693
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: years before that, Yeah, you're getting nineteen year olds.

694
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 3: Now you're getting twenty twenty one year olds.

695
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Speaker 1: The second thing is the best European kids seventeen eighteen,

696
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, they're coming over and they're now American nil

697
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: money is buying them. The best young Spaniard, the best

698
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: young Croatian. They're ending up playing in college basketball. So

699
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: now you get to see more of them against the

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Speaker 1: domestic product.

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Speaker 3: Right, you don't have to kind of guess.

702
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: So the draft, the NBA draft going forward should be

703
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: much meteor and less top heavy than previous years. So

704
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: four first round draft picks eight years ago pass four

705
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: first round draft picks now pretty good and kaminga who's

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Speaker 1: going to be My guess is he's twenty three. He's

707
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna end up being about a twenty four to twenty

708
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: five point game guy. If he went to Milwaukee and

709
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler and any Night can score twenty five, so

710
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: that that may not be enough. But Gannest is older,

711
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: had some injuries. But to me, Steve Kurz too smart

712
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: to think that, yeah, these old guys out on buy it.

713
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: I think Warrior tickets are expensive. As long as staff's around,

714
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, they're fun. But the West is young, athletic

715
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: on the wing, great rim protectors everywhere.

716
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 3: This is not it that that that.

717
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Watching the Lakers and the Warriors last night. I mean

718
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: it's the Warriors are a little bit of an antique store.

719
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: It's fun to rummage around in.

720
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: There a little bit. It's like, that's kind of nice.

721
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 3: I'd rather go to restoration hardware and get the new stuff.

722
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 3: Just me so.

723
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Speaker 1: And I think I think the real piece in this

724
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: is whenever you make a trade, whoever gets the star

725
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: generally wins the trade. You know, Shaq goes Lakers to Miami,

726
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: Miami wins the trade. But if you can get four

727
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: draft picks a borderline, I mean in the East, Jonathan

728
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: kaminga twenty four a night in the in the East,

729
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: not in the West. In the East, is he an

730
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: all Star. He's gonna be much closer in our star

731
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 1: in the East than he is the wide. Not gonna

732
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: be an All Star in the West, but in the

733
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Speaker 1: East Kaminga twenty three, twenty four to twenty five a night.

734
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Speaker 1: Could he be maybe, but here he would be the

735
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: key in the piece. The four draft picks Kaminga and

736
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Speaker 1: Butler coming home. Steve Kerb, by the way, likes what

737
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: he's seen this offseason from Cominga.

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Speaker 10: I think he's really really matured. You know, he's had

739
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 10: a great camp. We've had some really good conversations. I

740
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 10: think he has a better understanding of, you know, what

741
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 10: we need. I think he just has a better sense

742
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 10: of what's needed now compared to past years. And I

743
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 10: think Jimmy has really helped him too.

744
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: For the record, Kaminga is a better three point shooter

745
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: than you probably think so last year he's a forty

746
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: percent from three point land. He's a better three point

747
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: He's long, he's athletic. He can finish at the rim,

748
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: but he kind of looks lows sometimes playing with Steve Kerr.

749
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: But he can shoot threes, so you can three and

750
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: d him. I mean, he can play defense. He's a

751
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: two way player. He's twenty three, he got ten years

752
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: with him close to his prime. To me, He's the

753
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: centerpiece in the four draft picks, which are better picks

754
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: because Euros are now playing over here and our best

755
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: domestic players stay in college. One year longer, Cooper Flagg said,

756
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: I want to stay in college. He couldn't because he

757
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: was the number one pick, and if you're a number

758
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: one pick, you go to pro.

759
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: But I mean, it's the college guys.

760
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Speaker 1: Now we are getting paid and they're in college and

761
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: they only play thirty games, big man on campus.

762
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: It's fun.

763
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: Zakcheney played another year of college at Purdue and came

764
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: in and was a more refined player. Zacheny was way

765
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: better than everybody.

766
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: Thought he was going to be. So here's the NFL schedule.

767
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: You know, these two Monday night games do not do

768
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: the schedule a ton of favors. I forced Jmack to

769
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: call an upset every week on Wednesday and Thursday. I

770
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: want the upsets. I've been on a bit of a heater,

771
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm gonna let you go first kick

772
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Speaker 1: me the upset.

773
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 7: So last week I had Titans. That's failed spectacular. That

774
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 7: was horrific. Thank you cam Ward for nothing. You know,

775
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 7: I do wonder if Carolina is frisky at home against

776
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 7: the Bills running sense. Also, the Bills have the Chiefs

777
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 7: on deck. You wonder if they're looking ahead but coming

778
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 7: off a buy.

779
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 6: I don't know.

780
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 7: I guess for now, can I go Bears? Since there's

781
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 7: still dogs and Lamar? Now, Lamar did jog out to

782
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 7: the practice field. We just got video. We'll talk about

783
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 7: it next hour. His first practice field trips in September

784
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 7: twenty eighth. I don't think he's playing, so then, I

785
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 7: don't know how much.

786
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 6: Of an upset it is. So why don't we go.

787
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 7: Back to the well with my New York Football Jets.

788
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 7: No Sauce Gardener, no Garrol Wilson. I'm kidding, do not

789
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 7: bet the Jets. Let me throw one at you, those cowboys.

790
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to qualify as an upset if the Pittsburgh

791
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: Steelers beat the Packers.

792
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 6: What's the line? Three and a half?

793
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 7: No, that's not I mean, I'll give it to you,

794
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 7: Tomlin raw Ross spot.

795
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 6: We're underdogs. Nobody believes in US Sunday Night football.

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00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: Okay, Mike Tomlin's history at home as a dog, he's

797
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: been good in these games. You give him a little

798
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: more prep time. Don't put them on Thursday you put

799
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: them on Sunday night, you put them on Monday night.

800
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: You have Tom a little extra prep time, a little

801
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: late Sunday night at home, Aaron Rodgers. They also were

802
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: humiliated by Cincinnati. The defense was atrocious. I My favorite

803
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: underdog bet of the week on the card is Pittsburgh

804
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: plus three and a half.

805
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, almost six teams on a bye man. This is

806
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 6: so frustrating.

807
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: Damn anyead you did Titans Colts. That's fourteen and a

808
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: half colin. No, it's the weakest NFL schedule today. It's

809
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: not a great but you know how the one o'clock

810
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: window works. You watch San Francisco Texans and Giants Eagles

811
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: beat great, great games.

812
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 7: Well, now the Eagles better smash them. This is a

813
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 7: revenge spot.

814
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: The Eagles don't smash anybo They can't when you don't

815
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: generate a pass rush and you allow quarterbacks to be comfortable.

816
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: In this league, I'm sorry. You're not blowing people out

817
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: like Buffalo can't stop the run. You can't blow people

818
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: out if they can control the clock. I think the

819
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: Eagles I could be wrong on this. I think they've

820
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: been out gained in every game.

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Speaker 6: It's insane leading.

822
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 7: Into Minnesota they were. I don't remember the final stats,

823
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 7: but all right.

824
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Speaker 3: A final hour coming up. Feisty today, no ping pong

825
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Speaker 3: tables at work