Speaker 1: What's up, faithful, Welcome to the forty nine Ers First
Speaker 1: and Time podcast presented by Cisco.
Speaker 2: It's Draft week.
Speaker 1: And today we've got forty nine Ers team reporter Lindsay
Speaker 1: Polares and special guest from our forty nine Ers En
Speaker 1: Espanol team, his Zadatta. Thanks guys for joining me today.
Speaker 1: How excited are you for this Thursday? I'm ready to
Speaker 1: get this going.
Speaker 3: I feel like we've been talking about the draft for
Speaker 3: so long and now it's finally, finally the big week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have a lot of weeks of just looking
Speaker 4: at MAC drafts week after week, but now is finally here,
Speaker 4: the week of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be fun, since it's now draft week,
Speaker 1: to start us off with a little ice breaker. At
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers office in Santa Clara, there's a
Speaker 1: whiteboard right in the front right when all the employees
Speaker 1: come in. And today the question of the day was
Speaker 1: who is your all time favorite forty nine Ers draft pick?
Speaker 1: What do you guys think who is your favorite draft
Speaker 1: pick of all time?
Speaker 2: And what are some reasons why I.
Speaker 3: Love the story of Rock Party. I think you know,
Speaker 3: a long time from now, I think we're too close
Speaker 3: to when it happened in twenty twenty two, but being
Speaker 3: the final pick of the draft round seven to sixty
Speaker 3: two and then going on to lead an NFL franchise,
Speaker 3: playing a super Bowl in your second year as a
Speaker 3: starting QB. I just think that it like deserves some
Speaker 3: kind of movie. At some point, we'll see, you know,
Speaker 3: where Rock Party's career takes him. But I think we've
Speaker 3: got the makings of something really cool. And I think
Speaker 3: I always look back on that and being part of
Speaker 3: the organization as it happened. So I think that's probably
Speaker 3: my favorite draft pick.
Speaker 2: I love it, he's your favorite.
Speaker 4: I'll go defense. I'll go with Patrick Willis back in
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven because I'm usually kind of like
Speaker 4: defensive kind of guy, Like I love defense, and obviously
Speaker 4: I love the way Patrick Willis play. And that was
Speaker 4: actually a pretty good first round for the forty nine
Speaker 4: ers because that same year in the first round they
Speaker 4: got Patrick Willis and later in that version they got
Speaker 4: Joe Stated, So it was actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: Okay, this you staw my pick. It was also Patrick
Speaker 1: will I think also with him just recently entering the
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, so iconic and he was
Speaker 1: also number eleventh overall, so I think that has a
Speaker 1: good tone going into this year. But now with that
Speaker 1: being said, I feel like that ice breaker in of
Speaker 1: itself shows a great reason of the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: success in the draft. Lindsay, you put together a pretty
Speaker 1: cool feature on how the team has been able to
Speaker 1: find draft gems throughout the John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: era on forty nine ers dot Com. Tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit more about that and how it sets itself
Speaker 1: up for this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when we talked draft gems, I'm going to
Speaker 3: focus on or I did focus on basically third round
Speaker 3: and beyond. And that's not to say that the forty
Speaker 3: nine ers have not hit in rounds one and two.
Speaker 3: You know, you think of Nick Bosa and Brandon Ayu
Speaker 3: as first rounders that are still with the team, still contributing,
Speaker 3: obviously Brandon Ayu coming back from an injury. But this
Speaker 3: team has been able to continue to perform year in
Speaker 3: and year out with a draft position that you know
Speaker 3: reflects those many NFC championship games and Super Bowl runs
Speaker 3: that this team has been on in recent years. But
Speaker 3: because they have had success in rounds three to seven,
Speaker 3: they've found all pro players and then also Pro Bowl
Speaker 3: caliber players, and they've been able to just continue to
Speaker 3: revamp the talent. So, I mean, you guys are in
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen with George Kittle, DJ Jones, Fred Warner, Mitch
Speaker 3: w Weshanowski, Colton mckivitz, Juwan Jennings, Yamador Leonor Talanoa Hufunga,
Speaker 3: Elijah Mitchell. I mean, these are all guys that were
Speaker 3: able to contribute. We're mid to late round guys and
Speaker 3: have earned league recognition and have been able to replenish
Speaker 3: this roster, and that I think has really been the
Speaker 3: big key for success, sustaining performing well year over year
Speaker 3: during this Kyle Shanahan, John lynch Era and then also
Speaker 3: finding talent later in the draft so that you can
Speaker 3: just keep the ball rolling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Well from there, let's open it up. The
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers currently own eleven picks this year, technically
Speaker 1: four picks in the top one hundred. With that number
Speaker 1: eleven pick, that's a.
Speaker 2: Lot to work with.
Speaker 1: What kind of players are the forty nine ers front
Speaker 1: office looking for? And from what you guys know, how
Speaker 1: does the forty nine Ers personnel, prioritize on specific players
Speaker 1: and what's really the mindset for this year.
Speaker 4: Well, especially it's good that you mentioned that, right, they
Speaker 4: have those four picks on the top one hundred begins.
Speaker 4: Even gohn Lynchall remember saying that, So they have to
Speaker 4: take advantage of that. And I think they're gonna look
Speaker 4: for players that fit the forty nine ers philosophy. For
Speaker 4: example on the defensive side, where they have a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot of holes with all the departners in
Speaker 4: free agency, it's good to have a guy like Rover
Speaker 4: Salad back because obviously he had Even Fred Warner mentioned
Speaker 4: that he had a lot of contributions to get to
Speaker 4: get Fred Warner in twenty eighteen in the third round.
Speaker 4: So I think he's if they look for a linebacker,
Speaker 4: they're gonna look for that those type of linebackers that
Speaker 4: are a type of like safety hybrid type of linebacker
Speaker 4: like Fred Warner was. You know, he had that background
Speaker 4: be in a safety in in college, and those linebackers
Speaker 4: that play fast. And obviously if it's a defensive line,
Speaker 4: it's like they would have a coach like Chris Kusrek
Speaker 4: and with what always like what Robert Sally is emphasize
Speaker 4: and all gas, no no breaks. So that type of
Speaker 4: defensive alignment with a very quick step who is very athletic.
Speaker 4: I think you look for those type of players in
Speaker 4: this year's draft.
Speaker 3: I think also to one of the things that John
Speaker 3: Lynch and Kyle Shanahan always reference, or they reference a
Speaker 3: good amount, is that twenty nineteen defensive line. Robert Sala
Speaker 3: had a huge hand in helping build that line, put
Speaker 3: them together. Now he's back in the building his second
Speaker 3: go around with the Niners, So definitely, as you said,
Speaker 3: Robert Sala likely going to have a decent amount of
Speaker 3: influence on the players coming in on the defensive side
Speaker 3: of the ball in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to throw something new in the mix. Now,
Speaker 2: what are the odds of a trade?
Speaker 1: Why might it be smart to move up or back
Speaker 1: or even just stay put?
Speaker 4: Well, moving up, it depends if they really like like
Speaker 4: a guy like maybe like Att Carter. Of course, go
Speaker 4: ahead and do it. But the only issue with with that,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, is that you're gonna have to give
Speaker 4: up like very valuable picks in the third round the
Speaker 4: fore round, like like Lindsay was explaining, like in the past,
Speaker 4: you've been able to get guys there like Fred Warner,
Speaker 4: George Kittle's or yeah, those type of guys. So you
Speaker 4: have to be very very careful about that and and
Speaker 4: and think really truly if you're gonna move up, I
Speaker 4: think what makes more sense is moved back because yeah,
Speaker 4: because when you look at the draft, there's like obviously
Speaker 4: you don't know who. There's just always people saying, oh,
Speaker 4: this guy is gonna be a Hall of Famer, this
Speaker 4: guy is gonna be this reminds me of so and so,
Speaker 4: But you really never know, right sometimes they turn out
Speaker 4: to be bossed, so you don't know. But basically what
Speaker 4: they look now on paper, like guys like Abdul Carter,
Speaker 4: they look pretty pretty good. Will Campbell, guys, guys in
Speaker 4: the top five. But then when you look like at
Speaker 4: the pick where the forty nine ers are sitting at
Speaker 4: right now, at pick eleven, like a Walter Nolan, those
Speaker 4: type of guys, maybe it's a more store. There's not
Speaker 4: like a huge gap between them. They're pretty good players.
Speaker 4: So I think it makes sense if you move like
Speaker 4: maybe between fifteen and twenty pick to those places, and
Speaker 4: then you acquire a bunch of other picks in later
Speaker 4: round because a lot of esperts are saying that this
Speaker 4: draft has a lot of talent in the second, in
Speaker 4: the third, fourth, and fifth round, so I think it
Speaker 4: will make sense to move down a few a few spots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, set itself up for the forty nine ers sort
Speaker 1: of mindset going into this draft, lindsay, is it more
Speaker 1: of a numbers game and is it better to have
Speaker 1: more draft capital rather than trading up?
Speaker 3: I think it all depends. I think I'm of the
Speaker 3: thinking that moving back, if those are the options of
Speaker 3: moving up or moving back, probably makes more sense for
Speaker 3: all the reasons that Hazeus mentioned. But I do think
Speaker 3: it also depends on what's being offered and who gets
Speaker 3: missed in those first ten picks, Like is someone available
Speaker 3: that is somebody you absolutely need to go get right
Speaker 3: and then that there's no way of knowing right until
Speaker 3: draft night. You see how the rest of the teams,
Speaker 3: you know, either don't, don't trade up, or trade back.
Speaker 3: It all depends on who they take as well. But yes,
Speaker 3: I think that what we've seen in the Lynch Shanahan
Speaker 3: era is that they do well with a lot of
Speaker 3: draft capital. I think given the needs that you have,
Speaker 3: especially on the defensive side of the ball. You want
Speaker 3: as many picks as possible because this wasn't the free
Speaker 3: agency that I think a lot of people expected. So
Speaker 3: you want to bring in that new talent to fill
Speaker 3: the needs, and there are quite a few this year,
Speaker 3: and you need draft capital to do that. And also
Speaker 3: the Niners are looking you know, obviously compensatory picks are
Speaker 3: not calculated and won't be until next year, but they're
Speaker 3: looking like they're gonna have a decent amount of draft
Speaker 3: capital in twenty two twenty six as well. So to
Speaker 3: have two years with a lot of draft picks, I
Speaker 3: think that's setting yourself up for success in future years.
Speaker 2: Awesome. Yeah, well, Hazeus you said it earlier.
Speaker 1: But there's plenty of mock drafts circulating online and on TV.
Speaker 1: But NFL dot Com writer Adam Rank published one with
Speaker 1: a twist. Instead of predicting what a team might do
Speaker 1: with their first draft pick, he suggested with the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers and what other teams should do with their
Speaker 1: first draft pick. In that list, he said that the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers should take Georgia linebacker Jaylon Walker, saying
Speaker 1: he could be a great addition to the defense's pass rush.
Speaker 1: I want to offer up the same take to you guys,
Speaker 1: instead of predicting what the forty nine ers might do
Speaker 1: with pick eleven, what do you think they should do?
Speaker 4: Maybe if I have to pick up player, like a
Speaker 4: specific player, the only thing. Maybe he's not going to
Speaker 4: be there at eleven, but but he has a higher
Speaker 4: chance than other guys in front of him. So I'm
Speaker 4: going to go with armand Mambo from Missouri. I think
Speaker 4: it's a really good.
Speaker 1: I got to give you.
Speaker 4: The draft arm Arma Membo on offense, and if they
Speaker 4: go defense, maybe a guy like like Walter Nolan from
Speaker 4: from all from Mississippi, from from all mess because I
Speaker 4: like his versatility. You can move him around like on
Speaker 4: the interior of the defensive line, on the on the outside,
Speaker 4: sort of like like Kansas City uses Chris Jones. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying he's going to be Chris Jones, but you know,
Speaker 4: you get what I'm saying. He's able to move around
Speaker 4: the defensive line, and he's really good against the run
Speaker 4: and against the past, So I think he has a
Speaker 4: lot of potential.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going almost at number eleven, You know that reminds
Speaker 1: me of yeah, Patrick willis number fifty.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go a little bit farther out.
Speaker 3: I think the Niners should definitely look to address the
Speaker 3: defensive line. And I think you really need that counterpart
Speaker 3: to Nick Bosa on the outside. You need an edge rusher.
Speaker 3: So I think that's like a need that needs to
Speaker 3: be addressed first. And I think you've got Robert Sala,
Speaker 3: You've got Chris Kaserk, Who're going to know who exactly
Speaker 3: what they want. So let's get defensive line talent in.
Speaker 3: And then I kind of after seeing the success of
Speaker 3: Dominic Pooni in the third round last year, I think
Speaker 3: maybe you can get that O line starter or soon
Speaker 3: to be starter in those still top one hundred picks
Speaker 3: like early, you know, third round, third and fourth round.
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, I love to see it.
Speaker 1: Now to close this out, let's do a lightning round
Speaker 1: of this or that. I'm gonna throw a few options
Speaker 1: out on the table and you guys can make your pike.
Speaker 2: We'll go down the line. But are you guys ready ready?
Speaker 2: Let's do it? All right? Hazy A c start first?
Speaker 2: Trade up or trade back? I think you know what
Speaker 2: you're gonna.
Speaker 4: Say, trade back, right, back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have fun. I'll say trade up. You never
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna trade back, all right in Round one?
Speaker 2: Offense or defense?
Speaker 4: Offense the trenches, offensive line?
Speaker 2: All right, I'll go defense, Lindsay, defense, d line. What's
Speaker 2: the bigger need? Corner or edge itch definitely.
Speaker 4: Yeah. We already cover Ronardo grein one side with diamather
Speaker 4: Lein are on the other side, so you kind of
Speaker 4: just have to look for that nickel corner, which is
Speaker 4: also very important. But I think edge right now is
Speaker 4: a number one priority.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just what Lindsay said that bookend to Nick Bosam going.
Speaker 2: Edge, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love it. Now, what's more likely to happen?
Speaker 1: Drafting to receivers or drafting to offensive linemen?
Speaker 4: Drafting too? Offensive line? Definitely, yeah. I think you just
Speaker 4: need like one more receiver.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm also going lineman. Lindsay also going lineman. I
Speaker 1: think we're all on the same page here. And if
Speaker 1: the draft was happening today in this room and we
Speaker 1: happen to be GM, you guys kind of know how that.
Speaker 4: Would be all right?
Speaker 1: Well, his zeus, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure yes, it's definitely faithful. We'll be back
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