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Speaker 1: Rubio and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov begin peace talks

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Speaker 1: But the Trump deranged world is large, and another leader

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Speaker 1: of that delusional army is added again. Congressman Eric Swalwell

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Speaker 1: And Pope Francis isn't getting out of the hospital anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Now, Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith, freedom,

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Speaker 1: Now, Welcome to a Tuesday morning here an American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition. I hope you had a long weekend and

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Speaker 1: now is Virginia Allen. She is a senior producer at

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Speaker 1: The Daily Signal. Hey, Virginia Rubio and Lav rob Is

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Speaker 1: already talking about how to end the Russia Ukraine war,

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Speaker 3: No, you can't, because for years President Biden did little

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Virginia, it's also the court of public opinion,

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is just insane. It reminds me of

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you I'm hurt because I have not

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Speaker 3: a number in rapid successions. So now as a country,

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Speaker 3: all trickles down, so it's really important to get answers here.

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Speaker 3: But Swallwell should have kept his thoughts and opinions to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's something. There's a couple of those people in

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party who are clearly the ones who get

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Speaker 1: trotted out to say stupid things and then they don't

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Speaker 1: care what happens after that. Virginia Allen from the Daily Signal,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, Jake, thanks for having me great.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up?

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Speaker 1: going to be good. And what's the latest on Pope Francis?

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