1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollie, he is 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Lean Matt Williamson to say, Wednesday it felt weird yesterday, Matt, 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: it was so straight, so straight. It was there. 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: Their first day off since before training came late July something, 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: I mean once in a while, like they played a 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: Thursday game. We didn't have a drive or something weird 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: like that. But there was a reason. There was other things. 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, other things happening. 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: What am I gonna do from four to six through 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: the laundry or rick leaves or what am I doing? 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: Like I spent the day talking to myself. 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: That was big, just practicing look in the mirror. 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kept going Matt, uh wait, Matt, Yeah. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: Well happy Valentine's Day as well. 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: You know, you know that's maybe that's it's appropriate that 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: we're back together today. 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, are significant other Yeah. 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: So in the day that we're off. Yes, these national 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: reports that the Steelers are now the leading candidate to 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: land justin Fields. 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, have they keep popping up and they keep popping 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: Adam schefter and you know, right, and then everybody runs 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: with it. And I guess in Vegas you can place 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 3: a bet where Fields is going to play next year 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: and you get paid the least with the Steelers. Yeah, 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean that's the best odds. So I don't know 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: if they're real or not, but I think it's worth 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: talking about. 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: We've talked about this, and I just don't see it happening. 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: There's some concerns. I know, everyone's like, do it, do it, 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: do it, do it? And I get that excitement because 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: he is an exciting player. And I don't think you 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: or I not to speak for you, are down on 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: the player or think that he has no chance of 38 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: being good. And we both love them coming out of 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: Ohio State. But their words that he needs to get 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: better at I mean, and they're way different than what 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: the Steelers tolerated that position right now, you know what 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: I mean? Or w from that position. 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they've gone down a certain road, a 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: certain path with what they're looking for at the quarterback position, 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: and that path has included they don't want turnovers, they 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: don't want negative plays exactly. And if you look at 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: Justin Field's career, he starts. He's appeared in forty career. 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: Games, okay, in over three years, over three years. 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, in those forty games, he's thrown forty touchdown passes, 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: so a touchdown per game. He's also rushed for fourteen touchdowns. 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: So that's better touchdown production than we've been accustomed to 52 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: around here, you know. 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: But he's also thrown thirty interceptions. He's also fumbled the. 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: Ball a. 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Lot, a lot. 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: I don't here in front of me. 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: I changed it to ghost. 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: And you'd expect him to be higher because he is 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: a ball carrier. I mean, he's a true ball career 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: I think he's. 61 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: Essentially it's forty times he has averaged he's averaged two 62 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: turnovers per game in his career averaged. 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard to get over. 64 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: And the Steelers have shown a that they can win 65 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: by not having their quarterback and turn the football over 66 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: even if he's If you look at Pickett's numbers in 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: twenty five career games, he's thrown thirteen touchdown passes and 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: run for four, so it's less than a touchdown per game. Yeah, 69 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: but he also doesn't turn the ball over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: And if you take out the first few games of 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: his career. He really doesn't turn. 72 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: The ball over Kenny, Yeah, exactly, And who knows what 73 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 3: Kenny would even be the starter? I mean, but he's 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: the obvious comparison. He's the only one on the roster 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: right the second And really, how many wins do the 76 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 3: Steelers have going back to Ben's last year or last. 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: Year when they turned the ball over twice? Yeah? 78 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: Twice? I mean, with two turnovers, what's their win loss 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: record over the last five years, ten years? I mean 80 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: it's not good. I mean, no one's is, whether they 81 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: caused them or not. But if you had two. The 82 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: other thing is the sacks. 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: The sacks. Those are negative plays that you can't overcome. 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: He's about the worst in the league of taking sacks. 85 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: It was a little better this past year because he 86 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: was so bad before that folks and people around him 87 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: were better this year. 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: His career sack percentage is twelve point three five. That 89 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: means when he drops back twelve percent of the time 90 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: he goes down, he draws back one hundred times twelve 91 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: percent of them, more than twelve percent of them turn 92 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: into sacks. 93 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: Right, and when. 94 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett has dropped back in his career, and Pickett 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: and you and I have both been critical of him 96 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: for this, will run himself into some sacks. 97 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: He will, he will, but he's a young person thing, yeah, 98 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: you know, right, and Field has done some of that 99 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 3: as well. 100 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: His career sack percentage is six point five to five. 101 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's half, it's half. It's half. So if you 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: look at this through the lens of no negative plays, 103 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: play defense, run the football, which has been their formula, 104 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: it's doesn't add up, you know, because you have to 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: give something up for him too, right, I didn't just 106 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: fall out of the sky free. He's on a Christmas present, 107 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: you know. You have to give something up for him, 108 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: and you gotta pay him. The paying thing isn't terrible 109 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: because it's three something this year, the last year on 110 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: his deal, and then you pick the fifth year option 111 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: as twenty two million guaranteed. Okay, I mean I can 112 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 3: live with those things. And then after that, assuming he's good, 113 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: which is what you want, then he's gonna be forty 114 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: yeah know. I mean he's gonna be expensive, you know, 115 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: but jump off that bridge when he come to it. 116 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what you're hoping for if you trade 117 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: for him. That He's phenomenal and you're thrilled to pay him. 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: He's also a phenomenal runner. I mean, I think he's 119 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: a better runner than Lamar, to be honest with you. 120 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: At this stage, I mean he's more powerful. He is 121 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 3: fast as could be, in plays so fast. 122 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: He's like a joy he's playing with a joystick. Yeah. 123 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: I mean, so you would definitely have more play, more 124 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: big plays on offense to go along. 125 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: With more negatives enough to overcome the negative has been 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: for the Bears. 127 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: It hasn't been for the Bears. And you know, his 128 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: situation as a rookie year was almost coaching malpractice to 129 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: the Trevor Lawrence level. I mean I did a lot 130 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: of work on that because Alan Robinson was there that year, 131 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: and boy, it was just abysmal. That was the Naggy year. 132 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: The last two seasons have been better, So you can't 133 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: just blame his environment. He's had nothing around him. I 134 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: mean they blocked well, they have DJ Moore. I mean 135 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: they're an ascending team. I know some people had problems 136 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: with Luke Getzy and he's gone okay. So I do 137 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: think Arthur Smith wants a quarterback that will run and 138 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: has running skills. Going back to them drafting Mariota in 139 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: Tennessee drafting Ritter. None of them are Vic or Fields 140 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: as runners, but they're good runners. I mean, I think 141 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: that's something he prefers. But Fields has to be better, 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: assuming it's a second in change or even if it's 143 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: just a second. I think what we said off the 144 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: air was he has to be better than he is today. 145 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: For that to be a good deal, you have to 146 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: not just think you can fix him. 147 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to know you can fix him, you know. Yeah. 148 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: I mean maybe like a doctor or a mechanic, you're 149 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: looking at this car that has something wrong with it 150 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: and like they don't realize the actual's broken. 151 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: I can fix that or whatever it is. 152 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: I mean, and by all accounts, he is smart, but 153 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: extremely hard working, last guy in the facility, tough as 154 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: could be, plays through pain. I can't remember his last 155 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: year Ohio State, but I think is the national title 156 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: game or something he played very injured, you know, I like, yeah, 157 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: I forget the exact details of it. 158 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he took a hard shot to 159 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: the ribs of Yeah. 160 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: That's what it was like the game before or something 161 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: like he shouldn't have been out there but got it 162 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: through it. I'm interested, I mean in terms of all 163 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: the big ticket items you could get at that position, 164 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: because I am a believer. If you're going to beat 165 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: my homes in Burrow and these guys, you can't just 166 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: sit back and hope that. You know, you can't be 167 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: just sit on your hands about it. But of all 168 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: the big ticket items, he's my favorite option, and for 169 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: what it would cost. But I'm so not sure I'm in, 170 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: you know, and I don't know exactly what it would cost. 171 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd still have to be convinced. I didn't realize 172 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: he's throwing four pick sixes in his career. Really four? 173 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. 174 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: That's a lot, a lot. I mean, you're getting you're 175 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: you're throwing balls at like typically if you throw a 176 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: pick six, you throw an out to got jumped or 177 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: something like that. 178 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 179 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So that tells me you predetermined before you know, 180 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: pre snap that I'm going there. 181 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: Stare him down, ball comes out, jump it, take it 182 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: to the house. I mean a lot of those things 183 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: happen that way. In the sack thing, so quote, athletic 184 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: quarterbacks will often take more sacks because they're trying to 185 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: make a rose, you know, but you know, you spend 186 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: a long time behind the line of scrimmage running around, 187 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: shrug of guys off, blah blah blah. But a lot 188 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: of his two just aren't great pocket recognition, you know 189 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: what I mean. And he's young. I mean, what did 190 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: you say, it's twenty four or something. 191 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still twenty four. 192 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: So I mean he is a work in progress, and 193 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: he's trending the right direction. He's not, you know, spiraling down. 194 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: But those are the things that might be inherent that 195 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 3: he doesn't. 196 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: Ever get away with. And he took crazy. 197 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: Amount of sacks even with the ability to run away 198 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: from him too, you know, like he could have just 199 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: scampered for one yard gone out of bounds as opposed 200 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: to taking a sack on some of those instances, some 201 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: of them just doesn't see. 202 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: He took fifty five sacks in twenty twenty two in 203 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: fifteen games. That was the league high. 204 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 205 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: Last year, in thirteen games, he took forty four sacks 206 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: with a better offensive line. 207 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was much improved. 208 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: So that that does tell me that there's something that's 209 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: inherently in him that does he doesn't see yeah. 210 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: I mean he's not a real timing and rhythm passer either. 211 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 212 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: I think you mentioned his play action numbers are not 213 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: staggering or anything great either, But boy, can he run 214 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: the ball and he throws it? 215 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I player, I like, I'm not going to 216 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: sit here and talk out of both sides of my mouth. 217 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: I think he is a good football player. I just 218 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: don't know if he's the guy that can that can 219 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 2: be great. Yeah at this point, you know, I I 220 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: went back and forth in that draft, you know, between 221 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: him and Lawrence. 222 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, you know I like him as a passer. 223 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: He throws a pretty ball. There's a good deep ball, 224 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: but not always on time. Yeah, you know, but you 225 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: get away with the Ohio State. You can sit there 226 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: and pack the ball a little bit and have great 227 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: receivers run open for you. 228 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: I'm looking at his career numbers on play action aren't awful. Okay, 229 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: it's it's uh he's He's one hundred and twenty four 230 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: of two oh four for seventeen hundred and six yards, 231 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: twelve touchdowns, two interceptions. 232 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: Okay, that's promising. 233 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: The yards per attempt is nine point one. You'd like 234 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 2: to see that be a little bit higher. 235 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that he's only throwing two picks. So, yeah, 236 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: that's why because a lot of guys on play action. Folks, 237 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: when you when you run play action, it's better to 238 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: do it behind center, but you could do it, you know, 239 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: from the shotgun or the piss or whatever. But most 240 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: of the time you take your eyes off the defense. 241 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure all you guys will figure this out and 242 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: then you put your eyes back on the defense. And 243 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: the defense isn't where they used to be, you know, 244 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: they move, they would just stand there and say, you 245 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: don't hit the pause button while you're hitting play action. 246 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: So there are quarterbacks that don't adjust to that well 247 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: and throw a lot of picks off play action because 248 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: where the safeties go, you know that kind of stuff. 249 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: So I do like he's only throwing two picks, and 250 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: pretty good sample size of playoffs last year. 251 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: It was twenty six or thirty nine for three hundred 252 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: and ninety seven yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions. Tells me 253 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: he was just kind of dumping it down. 254 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if he's just dumping them off and yeah, yeah, 255 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: because the good receivers too. 256 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: Right, the receiver is not better there, yeah, than what 257 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: they had been his first couple of years. So, and 258 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: you look at things like time in the pocket, high, 259 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: when the ball gets when the ball gets out, and 260 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: under two point five seconds he can place sixty seven 261 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: point five percent of his passes nine hundred and fifty yards. 262 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: Was that last year for his Ques's last year, I 263 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: would say, I don't want his rookie year. Isn't fair 264 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: to judge that? 265 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, seven touchdowns, two interceptions. The problem is that was 266 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty seven attempts too. He had two 267 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen attempts where he held it for two point 268 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: five seconds or longer. Yeah, and that's what's going to change. 269 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: His average time to throwsman the highest, you know, right 270 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: at the top of the league. 271 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, were bottom of the league. Howeveryone judge it? 272 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: You know every year he's been in the league, yea, 273 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: which leads to sacks, which leads to all of a sudden, 274 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: you're not playing with instructure. And I'm trying to think 275 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: when it was. It's kind of a really fantasy note 276 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: because a lot of his career, like the first half 277 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: of his career, he didn't run as much as many 278 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: people though, and then all of a sudden, you wanted 279 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: him on your fantasy team, and he was running for 280 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,479 Speaker 3: eighty yards, one hundred. 281 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: Yards or a thousand yards of twenty twenty two. 282 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was like a light went off. There's 283 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: a real line of demarcation. It's like week four of 284 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: his second year or whatever. He just started running. And 285 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: I assume that was coached out of him, or he said, 286 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: I want to be a pocket passer. I don't want 287 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: to be considered a runner. I don't know, but he's 288 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: not reluctant to run now at all. And they incorporate 289 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 3: a lot of design quarterback runs, a lot of them 290 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: to their offense, and. 291 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: You would have to do that. That's where another is 292 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: another Crosse creates another issue because if you trade for 293 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: him as quote unquote competition for Kenny Pickett, you can't 294 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: run the same offense with Kenny Pickett that you would 295 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: for justify. I mean you can. 296 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: I mean that's where playbook. 297 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: It's the same playbook, but you're not going to call 298 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: the same plays, and you're probably gonna want some design 299 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: runs and things of that nature in there. 300 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: I mean, you'd run quarterback power five times, gay, you know, 301 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: I mean. 302 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: So honestly, you know, if you're if you're having a competition, 303 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: you're almost judging apples and oranges to a certain degree, 304 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: and you could but you could look at it and say, well, 305 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: which one are we having more offensive success with? 306 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 3: Sure? 307 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: Sure, but can you do that in three preseason games? 308 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not Lamar versus Flacco in terms of immobility. 309 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: Ver was mobile, But you definitely could do rollouts and 310 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: boots and stuff like that with both of them. But 311 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: the design quarterback running would be drastically different. I mean, 312 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: Kenny's a scrambler, yeah, and yeah, he'll get a carry 313 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 3: designed here and there, or a touch push or whatever. 314 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 3: You know, you know, a quick one. But you're running. 315 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: If you're not incorporating fields with ten blockers regularly, you're 316 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: doing yourself with the service as a runner. 317 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: What do you think of this? Again, I'm just looking 318 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: here at this. I just saw this on my right now. 319 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: His huddle versus no huddle stats. When when they huddle, 320 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: it's sixty two point four percent completion percentage, twenty four 321 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: hundred yards, sixteen touchdowns, eight interceptions. No huddle, he's thirteen 322 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: to twenty seven, one hundred and forty nine yards as 323 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: a forty eight percent completion percentage, no touchdowns, one interception. 324 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: I mean no huddles usually. 325 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: I mean that's a quarter there's a quarterback place they are. 326 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: But I wonder because I mean, the Bears have been 327 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: so bad door his time is a lot of that 328 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: when you're losing twenty to nothing. 329 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: But you would think there would be more, No, he 330 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: would think they'd be more completely, Yeah, you would think 331 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: there'd be more. Like did they not have him run 332 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: no huddle because he's not good at it? 333 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: Right right? Right? 334 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. 335 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think he's a quick processor that. 336 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean he's dumb or anything like that. It 337 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: just means he doesn't see it as quickly or yet. 338 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: And that's kind of a no huddle thing. Let's go 339 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: hurry up, bang bang bang bang bang, you know, play tempo. 340 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: Be the quickest mind out there in a Brady like fashion. 341 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: I don't don't think he's there yet. 342 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: I will say this as well. His completion percentage last year, yeah, 343 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: went down in every quarter from first was his best 344 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: first quarter was seventy four percent. Seventy four point four 345 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: percent of his pass as he completed. Second quarter was 346 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: sixty one point nine, third quarter fifty eight point six, 347 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: fourth quarter fifty one. 348 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: Interesting makes me wonder if gets he's a good script 349 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: a good scriptor and then he isn't, or do they 350 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: figure fields out? 351 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love that. I'm just kidding, kicking all 352 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: this stuff around, you know again, people are throwing it 353 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: out there like oh that they and they need to do, 354 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: and people are adamant they need to do this, they 355 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: need to do I don't think they should do. 356 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 357 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't know because a again, I like the player. 358 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: You like the player three years ago when he was 359 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: coming out in the draft. 360 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I. 361 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: Like some of what I've seen as a professional. Yeah, 362 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: but I can't say that I liked it all. 363 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: I like that he's improving, but not as quickly as 364 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: you'd like. I liked a ton of stuff coming out 365 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: of school. You love the work ethic, you certainly love 366 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: the athleticism and natural tools. He also we were both 367 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: shocked and as were most of the world, that he 368 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: went as late as he did in the draft. I 369 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: think he was ninth and maybe even later. But there 370 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: was like hmm. Why is he I thought he goes second. 371 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: I thought he go third. Is there something missing that 372 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: we don't know that the league does know? 373 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: If I remember curriculately, Atlanta passed on him, passed on 374 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: and Atlanta was in the market for a quarterback. 375 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: Yes, they did. 376 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: They passed on him, and he's from Atlanta and they 377 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: were in the market for a quarterback. That's the thing. 378 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: So I'm looking here at those odds that you brought 379 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: up when the start. 380 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: I think that was a pits draft for them. 381 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so at ten or the Vikings, Well, they're not 382 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: going to trade him to the Vikings. He's gonna be nine. 383 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: Is Tampa Bay at plus thirty five hundred. Seattle was 384 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: plus twenty five hundred, The Raiders are plus twelve hundred, 385 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: The Commanders are plus twelve hundred, The Broncos are plus 386 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: twelve hundred. 387 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: Thenver's the only one that you mentioned so far I 388 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: think is the possibility unless Baker isn't back. Yeah, Tampa 389 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: would make a ton of sense if Baker's not back, 390 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: Like I might rather do that if i'm them, then 391 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: pay Baker. 392 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Patriots are plus six fifty. The Falcons are 393 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: plus six hundred. The Bears are plus two hundred and 394 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: the Steelers are minus one twenty five. 395 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: I was thinking, there's a team in there them, Okay, 396 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: I mean I get it. Most of those landing spots 397 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 3: don't make a lot of sense. 398 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 399 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what demand is high as people think. 400 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: When people are talking about it's going to take a 401 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: second and a fifth Yeah to do that, I don't 402 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: know you For that to happen, there need to be 403 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: multiple teams bidding. 404 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: Right, And if you're the Bears and either New England 405 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: or Atlanta is in it, well they pick earlier than 406 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: the Steelers around two. 407 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: This isn't a situation where the Steelers were deciding whether 408 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: they wanted to trade Chase Cleepol to the Packers or 409 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: the Bears. No, right, and they made the decision to 410 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: send them to Chicago because they thought he would they 411 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: would have the higher pick. 412 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: Is that you know what PI picks are getting, right, 413 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 3: So you're getting what fifty one? Is that where they 414 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: pick them. 415 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: As opposed to one in the in the high high thirties? 416 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Patriots pick is super early. I 417 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: was talking off the air. I would if you're the Patriots. 418 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: You're picking third, and you only happen to love two 419 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: of these three quarterbacks. I might take Marvin Harrison Junior 420 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: and give you a second round pick for fields, right 421 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: and all day? Yeah, right right, and try and you know, 422 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: see where the chips land that way, you know. But 423 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: all in all, there aren't that many easy landing spots. 424 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I think Atlanta is one. 425 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: But they've already passed on him in the draft. 426 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had an opportunity to take him. Does Arthur 427 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: Smith like him? I don't know, does that matter? I mean, 428 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's gonna have some input, and you know, 429 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: you would assume on the south side that they're having 430 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: similar conversations to what we're having to and you know, 431 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 3: they have a thousand times more knowledge on the subject, 432 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: and they know his background and character checks and all 433 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: those things, and they've probably have a better idea of 434 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: what he would cost. And you know, I don't know, 435 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just to me, I'm intrigued. 436 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: I don't know that I would be in it for 437 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: a second round draft pick if it's a third round 438 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: draft pick. Now I'm strongly considering it. 439 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: What if it's a third and a conditional second next year. 440 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 3: If he starts the Aaron Rodgers deal. If he's played 441 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: seventy five percent of his snaps in twenty twenty four, 442 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: it costs you a two next year. Otherwise, give us 443 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: a three next year on top of the three this year. 444 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm interested. It's fin it's a lot. 445 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: It's a lot. It's a lot. And those Day two 446 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: picks or gold I mean you said it off the air, 447 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 3: like that's Keanu Benton and something else or that Joey 448 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: Porter Jr. On rookie deals that you know young that 449 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: are cheap. Yeah, yeah, that you know are affordable. We 450 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: do these mock drafts in those second round you're pretty 451 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 3: happy about what you're picking with. You're looking at you a. 452 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: Lot of times. I like this, like the second round. 453 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: I like those guys much. 454 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 3: I like the first round. Yeah, And I feel like 455 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 3: you have to do this before the draft, Like this 456 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 3: has to happen in the next couple of weeks. 457 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: Probably if you're Chicago, because it's. 458 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: Assuming Chicago's in love with Caleb Willy. 459 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: If you're Chicago and you don't trade him until after 460 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: the draft, now you're not getting a pick until the 461 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: following season and then you lose all your bargaining power. 462 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 463 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 2: Now, now teams can say we'll make it a conditional 464 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: second round pick. It's similar to what you just said. 465 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: If he starts seventy five percent, it's a two. If 466 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: he doesn't, then it's a three or a four, whatever, 467 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: whatever that condition is. 468 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: I know this isn't a Bears podcast radio show, but 469 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: Fields is from or Caleb Williams from the DC area, 470 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: and they also hired Kingsbury, who coached Fields at USC 471 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 3: last year. New regime there. If you're Washington, or if 472 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 3: you're the Bears for that matter, to go from two 473 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: to one, I'd get an awful lot just to go 474 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: back to two. 475 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and to your point, Kingsbury has always coached. 476 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: He's got a number one pick over wrong. It doesn't 477 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: win the games of them. But if say Washington offers 478 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: you a heck of a deal, you know, I'm gonna 479 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: give you two next year's one and our two just 480 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: to move back one spot. I think I take Marvin 481 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: Harrison and roll with Fields. I'm in Yeah, you know, 482 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: if I'm the mayors, right, Yeah, And that's not so bad. 483 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: You could take or you could take May and sit 484 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 3: there and go back again. Well, you also have the Raiders, Uh, 485 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: the new PETSI factors weird. 486 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: Well, the new head coach there was it Arizona was 487 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: at Arizona State. He was at Arizona State when Jayden 488 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: Daniels was there. 489 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: Yes, that's one hundred cent true. 490 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: Right, so you know he may see I'm in love 491 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: with this kid. You know, we got to go get him. 492 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: We got to trade up and go get him. 493 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: I can see that too. I mean, the Raiders and 494 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: the Falcons don't have a guy, right, I mean, to me, 495 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: they're the most desperate quarterback teams in the league. Russell 496 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: Wilson's probably gonna land somewhere. I don't know if you will. 497 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if if you ask me, is Russell 498 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: Wilson an opening day starter? Forty fifty chance? Yeah he doesn't. 499 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: I don't know that that's the answer for any of 500 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: those teams. 501 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get to him, right, yeah, yea, 502 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: he is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening 503 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 504 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: back with more right after this. 505 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 506 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 507 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 508 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: And this is a developing story in Kansas City. But 509 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: one person dead, nine injured in a shooting in Kansas 510 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: City during the Chief Super Bowl parade. And uh, it's awful, awful, 511 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: and you know, just the hearts go out to the 512 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: people involved with that. And they've got to two suspects 513 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: in custody. Ye, I don't know what would cause somebody 514 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: to do something like that. Of course, you know, you 515 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: had a million people in Kansas City today, a million. 516 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: This is to celebrate the Chief's Super Bowl victory and 517 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: then this this happens. Just not good. 518 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: Hearts go out. That's awful. Yeah, it's just not good. 519 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: Also today Steve Wilkes out as a defense in San Francisco. 520 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay, so my impression of how that went down 521 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 3: was he was the interim at Carolina and then they 522 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: cleaned house, of course, and the Niners gladly brought him 523 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: back because they lost their defense coordinat to be go 524 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 3: Ryan's to the Texans. But they pretty much told Wilkes, 525 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: I know that you're a former defensive back coach, you 526 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: prefer a lot more man than rerun. But you're going 527 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: to run back what we did here. Yeah, you know, 528 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: like we're doing good stuff here. We think you're a 529 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: really good coach, but our philosophies are a little different. 530 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 3: You're going to do it our way. And he did. 531 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: And the defense was i'd say, good, not great, but 532 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: got worse as the playoffs and season went on. And 533 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: I know one criticism I thought was interesting about the 534 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 3: Niners D which I wouldn't blame Wilkes. I would blame 535 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: Lynch and the people building the team. Is there a 536 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: little too D line dependent? You know that when the 537 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: D line in these big games, especially the Super Bowl, 538 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: gets tired in the fourth quarter, you're back seven can't 539 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 3: make up for it, especially at corner and safety. The 540 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: linebackers are great. 541 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: Logan Ryan out there, like, is that. 542 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: What they're doing? Yeah, played a lot and they played 543 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah. I'm a little shocked though. I mean 544 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 3: it was pretty successful defense. And it's not like the 545 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: Chiefs is a Super Bowl What the Super Bowl Chiefs 546 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: didn't carve them up. I don't know. I don't get 547 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: that one. 548 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: It's a strange one. Travis Kelsey also came out on 549 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: his podcast and said that bumping and yelling at Andy 550 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: Reid was completely unacceptable. 551 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 3: And yeah, he's assumed. 552 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: He wouldn't have been surprised if Andy punched him in 553 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: the face. 554 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: Makes me like Kelsey a little better. At least you 555 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: realized that you were being a horse's ass. Yeah right, 556 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: I mean it's a stressful environment, but it's still not acceptable. 557 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: No, it was a really bad look. 558 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: It was really I thought Reid was very classy about it. Yeah, 559 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: just kind of brushed it off. 560 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, anyway, so the Wilkes, Yeah, the thirty 561 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: third team has put out a three round post Super 562 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: Bowl mock draft. Cool is from Connor Levisa. 563 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: I'm and I don't know some of their young up 564 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 3: and coming right writers, but I do like their sight 565 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: a lot. 566 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, just looking here at some of the we'll take 567 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: a look at the who has the Steelers taking here. 568 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: In the top ten has gotten really choky. It really 569 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: it's almost like it was a going to go to 570 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: the Titans again, okay, or the Niners taking Bowers or receiver. 571 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: That's kind of right. He has a Vikings taking JJ 572 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: McCarthy at eleven. 573 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: I'm curious we had the Falcons the Falcons, I think 574 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 3: is when it starts to get a little bit interesting. 575 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Falcons taking Dallas Turner, the edge rusher of Alabama, McCarthy, 576 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: the Vikes to the Vikings. 577 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: I don't. I have a lot of work to do, 578 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: so I reserve the ability to change my mind on this. 579 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: But McCarthy hasn't blown me away just watching TV tape 580 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: of Michigan. 581 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: No, no, but I did. 582 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: We did a mock for the Steelers today and I 583 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 3: put him at nine. I think it's nine to Atlanta, 584 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 3: which I know is rich. I just think Atlanta's going 585 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: to end up with a quarterback, whether it's him or 586 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: somebody else. So it just kind of made it work 587 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 3: a little bit better. But a couple of people have 588 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 3: said McCarthy is going to test really well in Indy 589 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: and he's going to interview off the charts well. So 590 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: I could see his name being in this top fifteen. 591 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: Big question him though, if if I'm sitting down with 592 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: him in an interview and I'm uh, and I'm gonna 593 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: be completely honest here, be like, Okay, you had Roman Wilson, 594 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: you had other receiver, other receivers that are considered. 595 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: I bet they have some talented receiver. 596 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, why didn't they let you throw the ball more? 597 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 3: Yeah? And he's gonna counter with because all we care 598 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: about is winning, and I won a lot. 599 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: It doesn't answer the question. It doesn't, you know. I 600 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: mean there's like I like, I want to hear him say, well, 601 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: I wanted to throw the ball more, you know, I 602 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: wanted to be the reason why we won, but we were. 603 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: We were winning by so much that I didn't have 604 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: to throw the ball a lot. 605 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure people listening definitely remember this better than I do. 606 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's many Penn State fans out there, but 607 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 3: that was kind of the notorious game where he went 608 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 3: what fifteen plays in a row and they didn't throw 609 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: that ran over and over and I think two or 610 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: three times, or third and long. I mean, it wasn't 611 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: like third and one runner run and run. You know, 612 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, that's the biggest question about it. Question. 613 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: He's a first round quarterback. You should trust your first 614 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: round quarterback. 615 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: I mean, there's it worked. 616 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: Three or four of them in this year's draft, might 617 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: typically only three or four in every draft. 618 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a McCarthy supporter in this conversation. 619 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 3: I'm not really one way or another, but I do 620 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: think what he is going for him too, is he's 621 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: noticeably younger than Nix and Penix and he's a much 622 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: better athlete, you know, so I think he'll be the 623 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: quarterback for I'm not a big Knicks guy. I don't 624 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 3: love any of those three, to be honest with you. Yeah, 625 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: I love the way Penix throws. He doesn't move well. 626 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: Knicks is kind of a real water down Drew brees 627 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: to me, I mean accurate and. 628 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: The ball's got to come out quick. Yeah, exactly, time, 629 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: like everything's If you watch that offense at Oregon, very structured, 630 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: very boom sideway sideway, sideway, sideway sideways, then maybe we'll 631 00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: try to hit. 632 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: A slam and that's the league exposes you if that's 633 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: all you can do, you know So. I think McCarthy's 634 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: a little more interesting than those two, or maybe as 635 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: a higher ceiling. But just watching him on Saturdays and 636 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: my lazy boy, I wasn't like, boy, that's a first 637 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: round quarterback. 638 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah I wasn't either. Yeah, looking here at some of 639 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: the other the Bengals get JC Latham at Alabama, Cooper 640 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: Dejeen goes at nineteen to the Rams and the Steelers 641 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: take Jackson powers Johnson. 642 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: Getting a little chocky too, which fine by me. 643 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good with that. 644 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. A couple of notes on those dudes. I was 645 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: listening to podcast with Dane Brugler today. He said Latham 646 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: is probably the strongest player in this draft. I mean 647 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: just pure strength. You know, I know you like him, 648 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: Eliza right, tackle too. I think he's really interesting. And 649 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: then we were just shooting the breeze today about the 650 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: gene after this combine, we might laugh to ourselves that 651 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: thinking he's in the mix at twenty. I mean he 652 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: might be the first defender off the board. 653 00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: He could be. 654 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think he has that keep up. 655 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: I'm kind of in hoping he doesn't work out. 656 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know the Heath Miller move or yeah right, 657 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: I'm still not ready. We can't do it right, but 658 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: he may do crazy thing. He may have like a 659 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: forty four inch vertical yeah, you know, crazy stuff like 660 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: he was he was. 661 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: I mean it was granted it was the state of Iowa, 662 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: but he's like the their sprint champion. 663 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: He was never had like the national champ. I mean 664 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: everything everything. I mean, go look at his dunk videos 665 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: are crazy. Yeah, yeah, but I would be very interested, 666 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: But I would be very happy with that would be. 667 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: A nice perfect Yeah, that would be perfect. The Dolphins 668 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: and take Byron Murphy moving down here to this secondary. 669 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: Could lose Wilkins. Yeah yeah, any other quarterbacks go uh 670 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: not in the first round. 671 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, not in the first round. 672 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: So in the Pinix or Nicks are more like the 673 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: Levis early second type. 674 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, he's got him going back to back here. 675 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: Nicks goes to the Falcons at forty three, makes some sense, 676 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: and then Panis goes to the Raiders at forty four. 677 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: If you're either one of those teams, you're not thrilled 678 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: with that's all you if that's all you get this offseason. Yeah, 679 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: I mean they're like the two quarterback neediest teams. Maybe 680 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: it end up with a Russell Wilson or a Brissette 681 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 3: or something like that. In addition, yeah, I mean they're 682 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: good landing spots. 683 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: Uh. At fifty one or fifty two, the Steelers take 684 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: Jeremiah Trotter, the linebacker at Clemson. 685 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: I wouldn't do. I wouldn't do. Yeah, he's okay, I mean, 686 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: I think lineback, who's a couple of one four. 687 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: Who was still just before them. The Bengals took Jatavian Sanders. 688 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: That's kind of getting chalky. 689 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 3: That is soon round two for them. Zach Fraser went 690 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: at forty eight to the Jaguars. But you wouldn't mind 691 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: at this point, you you'd be happy about the Rams. 692 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The Eagles at fifty Take Cameron Kenchins, the 693 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: safety out of Miami. 694 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: None of those are heartbreakers. 695 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: Rams take Adeza Isaac, the edge rusher out of Penn State. Fine, okay, yeah, 696 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: right after the picks after the Steelers, They'll tell me 697 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: if any of these guys. 698 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: I bet I would take several before trot. 699 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: Uh To and Andre Sweat to the Dolphins. 700 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: I would take Sweat over Trotter if it's just picked 701 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: fifteen those two. 702 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Xavier Leggett at fifty four to the Eagles, probably, 703 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: but he's not my favorite. Yeah. Roman Wilson at fifty 704 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: five to the Brown Yes, yeah. Eddrian Cooper at fifty 705 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: six to the Cowboy. 706 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 3: What I know about both, I think Cooper's the better. 707 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: Cooper is a better prospect. 708 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins goes at fifty seven, Cooper bb at fifty eight, 709 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton at fifty nine, Dominic Pooney at sixty. I 710 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: don't love any of those, you know, these Jenkins. Maybe 711 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: those other ones didn't save me. Looking here into round three, 712 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: the Steelers get at eighty four. Although this is interesting. 713 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: I hadn't looked at this one. They take Michael Pratt, 714 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: the quarterback out of Slane. 715 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 3: That to me, that's a nice start. Throw would be 716 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: yeah again, going to watch these guys a lot more, 717 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: learn a lot more about him. Tired of saying that 718 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: folks who should know that by now, we're going to 719 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: learn more and more about these guys. The draft doesn't 720 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 3: happen tomorrow. But my impression to Pratt is his floor 721 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: seems high, you know, like at a minimum, I think 722 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: he'll be a really good two, which people might say 723 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: I don't want that. A third round pick's worth a 724 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: lifetime too. I mean, it just is. I mean, and 725 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: he might be more you give him an opportunity. I'm 726 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 3: not saying he's brock Perty or Dak or one of 727 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 3: these late round picks, but once he gets out there, 728 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: he's a gamer. I mean, he didn't have a lot 729 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: around him at two lane and played a lot of 730 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: good football and turned that program around. I'd be real 731 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: interested in that. 732 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would tell it too. Who's some of them 733 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: guys went in the neighbor seventy six, Spencer Ratler went 734 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: to the Broncos. 735 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: I would consider him there too. 736 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Leonard Taylor, the defensive lineman out of Miami went 737 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: at seventy seven. At seventy eight was McKinley Jackson, the 738 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: defensive lineman from Texas A and M at seventy nine, 739 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: Klen Bullock at eighty Michael Hall, junior, the defensive linean 740 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: out of Ohio State. You had Seattle take Austin Booker, 741 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: the addresser out of Kansas at eighty two, where the 742 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: Colts took Javon Buller, the safety out of Georgia Junior 743 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: Colson at eighty three, the linebacker at of Michigan. Michigan 744 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 2: goes to the Rams. 745 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: I got much rather of Colson in round three than 746 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: Trotter in round two. 747 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: Some of the picks right after the Steelers. The Texans 748 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: take Cedric Gray, the linebacker. 749 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: Out of him in the third round than Trotter in 750 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: round two. 751 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Trey Benson, the running back out of Florida State 752 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: goes to the Browns. 753 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 3: You'd like to sue backs falling in that area. Yeah, 754 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 3: and then I think they will. 755 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: Bucky Irving, the running back from Oreon, goes to the 756 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: Cowboys at eighty seven. The Packers take Jalen Polk, the 757 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: wide receiver. Did they take another wide receiver? 758 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 3: Wow? I would mind him at the third round though. 759 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. DJ James, the cornerback from Auburn, goes at eighty nine, 760 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: Dwayne Carter, the defensive lineman from Duke at ninety, Christian Jones, 761 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 2: the offensive tackle from Texas it goes. 762 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind him in the third round ninety one. 763 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: Yet uh see, only Vaki goes at ninety four to 764 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. 765 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 3: Interesting. I heard the other day, and I mentioned to 766 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 3: you at lunch that I'm someone said that I didn't 767 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: double check it or fact check it, but he was 768 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: Nausey's fullback in high school. And hey, I mean all 769 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: the familiarity one. I like that guy a lot, period. Yeah, 770 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 3: do any of that stuff. I mean he is a 771 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: fly around, really athletic, big strong safety type that is 772 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: a legit running back and catches the ball. 773 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: Really well and he's also a safety that I. 774 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: Mean, the safety is the key obviously, but right I 775 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: bet he could return kicks if he had to. Yeah, 776 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: things like that. 777 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: Does a lot of stuff stuff. Yeah, So. 778 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 3: Especially with two fourth round picks, that third round quarterback, 779 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: that makes some sense. Yeah, especially if it's I mean, 780 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: if they traded for Fields, it wouldn't but if it's 781 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 3: Tannehill here. 782 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: Especially like that, if in the first two rounds you 783 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: get two guys not I'm not going to say they're 784 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: plugging play starters. 785 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: But Powers Johnson would open. 786 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 2: But you feel pretty solid that they're gonna they're probably 787 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 2: going to break into your starting lineup. 788 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's a tackle project, then maybe 789 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: I can't have two projects. I might need two guys 790 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: to play a lot of snaps right off the bat, 791 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, yeah, which I think Powers Johnson would 792 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 3: play immediately. 793 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I just think you keep it at 794 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: the quarterback position. And that's why, you know, if it 795 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: were a third round pick for Justin Fields, sure, I'm 796 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 2: much more interested than giving up a two. 797 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 798 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the second round. I mean again, I can 799 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: I can get somebody, you get Joey Porter in the 800 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: second round, you got Keanu Benton in the second round. 801 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've mentioned Nubin a couple of times. He would 802 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: be a plug and play type guy. I mean, you're gonna. 803 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: May second round picks my starting corner. 804 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it could be a starting corner. 805 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: I got my starting center. I got my starting corner. 806 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: Now I can start thinking about the offer the quarterback. Yeah. 807 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: I think quarterbacks more of a third round investment. 808 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, because regardless of what's happening around the team this year, 809 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: in terms of the quarterback position, the rest of the 810 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 2: team is pretty I'm gonna to say completely set you. 811 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 2: You have a couple of holes that you'd like to fill, 812 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: but you have to fill those holes. 813 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: I assume. I bet we could fill in of guys 814 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 3: who play prominent snaps, And by that I mean your 815 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: nickel package, your dime package, your second running back, your 816 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 3: second tight end, as well as all the starters. What 817 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: is that like, twenty six human beings? We could probably 818 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 3: name twenty of them, at least maybe more, you know, right, 819 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 3: I mean that are gonna play a lot. Dartneut Washington's 820 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 3: one of them, right, you know, I mean those type 821 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: of things, you know. 822 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: But some of the holes are big holes. 823 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: But when the draft rules around, I bet that number 824 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 3: goes up to twenty two is you know, I mean 825 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 3: I bet they add something from outside, you know. But 826 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 3: you still like to, yeah, you. 827 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 2: Know, keep building that younger nuclears system, particularly on defense. 828 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 3: But you on defense, yeah, you don't want the defense 829 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: to get older. I mean it is an older defense. Yeah, 830 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 3: and you have five real picks, in my opinion, I 831 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 3: mean the two fourth and the day one and two guys. 832 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: Not that you're gonna say a four it's going to 833 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 3: be a plug and play starter, but it might be 834 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: the linebacker in the mix. Like that's kind of where 835 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 3: I go. 836 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: Linebacker, and again you're talking about like a Nick herbrig. 837 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah makes sense special team 838 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 3: or slash safety, linebacker something. 839 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: For something that's gonna somebody who's gonna make an impact. 840 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Or it might be your starting nickel, right, I 841 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 3: mean those guys for those guys five to nine guy 842 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: or what. 843 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: It might be next year's offensive starting offensive tackle two 844 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: years from now I'm saying, or. 845 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: Your third receiver possible. 846 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, Yeah, there's there's things that you can 847 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: get with those picks. Yeah, that you're gonna need you 848 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: don't want to have to pay for him. 849 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 3: That extra force really nice. So it's not like having 850 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 3: the thirty second pick last year. You know is at 851 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 3: bonus prize, but it does give you some versatility too. 852 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson, 853 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 854 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more on 855 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 2: the drive right after this. 856 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 857 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 858 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 859 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 2: Stealer fans, you can gear up with the latest sideline apparel, 860 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 2: hats or jerseys of your favorite players, authentic memorabilia, custom items, 861 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 2: and exclusives you can only find directly from the team 862 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: at one of the official Steelers pro shops are located 863 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: at Akrosser Stadium, Grove City, Premium mount Lets, or Tanger Outlets, 864 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 2: where you can visit online at shop Steelers dot com. 865 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lolly and Matt 866 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: looking here also on the thirty third team. 867 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 868 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 2: They put out an article on each team's biggest need 869 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: post Super Bowl and I'm looking here at the Steelers' 870 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: biggest need. This is again a national perspective on this quarterback, 871 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 2: and I couldn't disagree more. 872 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's their biggest need. We've spent 873 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 3: a large portion of today's show talking quarterbacks, whether it's 874 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 3: crew draft or fields conversation, you know, sprinkling some Tannehill talk. 875 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 3: Something needs to be done, and of course quarterback magnifies 876 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 3: every thing, you know, like, oh you have a center need. 877 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 3: That's not as sexiest talking quarterback obviously, and they've won 878 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 3: on the roster today, So yes, they need to do 879 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 3: something at quarterback. But I think people, especially nationally, have 880 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: buried Kenny Pickett, and I think that's. 881 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: I think it's premature. 882 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people look at like he got bench 883 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 3: for Rudolph. They think he stinks they're done with Picket. 884 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that's the case at all. 885 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: It's definitely not the case. Mike Thomlins said as much, right, right, 886 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 2: and as did Art Rooney the second, like, no, that's 887 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: that's not the way that they perceive this. 888 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they want they want to give Kenny Pickett an 889 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 4: opportunity to play next year with the new offensive scheme 890 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 4: and coordinator, but they do want competition there. 891 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you can't just you can't put all 892 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 3: your eggs in that basket. 893 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: Of course, that doesn't mean that your biggest need is 894 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: a quarterback. If I were doing this article, what what 895 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: right now is the Steelers' biggest need? I would say 896 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: their biggest need is cornerback. 897 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 3: I'd say corner I mean, I don't know what Peterson's 898 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: future is here. Could he be a restructure, could he 899 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 3: get cut? Could they just run him back? Could he 900 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 3: be a safety? 901 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 2: But I know I don't want him out there playing 902 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: hundred percent of this. I don't want him as my 903 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 2: highest a snapped defensive guy, taking the most defensive snaps 904 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: on my defense. I don't want that. 905 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 3: To his credit, he was the most he had play 906 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: the most snaps of any defender on this team, and 907 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 3: it was by like well over one hundred. It was 908 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 3: like two hundred more snaps than anybody else. And to 909 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 3: his credit because he can do a lot of things, 910 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 3: you know, he got thrust into safety and all those 911 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 3: type type of deals, I would like that snapcount to 912 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: be halfed unless they think he's a legit safety or 913 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 3: maybe he's not even back. I mean, he's not cheap, 914 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 3: you know, So that aside Wallace isn't under contract, you 915 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 3: don't have a starting corner, is my opinion. 916 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 2: Jannon Sullivan's he's a free agent. 917 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 3: Trice and Rush are really intriguing, but to say that 918 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 3: they're a starting corner is nuts. Yeah, I mean you 919 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 3: can't say that now. They might turn into it as 920 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 3: soon as mini camping. 921 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: But even if that happens, I still need a slot 922 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 2: Tony slot. 923 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Like I think they need two corners. 924 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 2: I know I have a quarterback. Yeah, if we had 925 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 2: to line up tomorrow, can you pick it? Would line 926 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 2: up a cornerback. And he's fourteen and ten as a starter, 927 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: it's not like he's awful. We can go out we 928 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 2: know we can go out there and win games. 929 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 3: With him exactly exactly. 930 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: I don't know that we can go out there and 931 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 2: win games with what's there a defensive back right now? 932 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: Oh? I agree, I agree, And yes, I think defensive 933 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 3: backfield as a whole, but especially corner is the biggest 934 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 3: need on the team today. Valentine's Day, Yeah, I mean, yeah, agree. 935 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: So I didn't Yeah, So just running through some of these. 936 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 3: Other serious like what's Baltimore? What since he was, We're doing. 937 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 2: By division here at AFC East, Buffalo's biggest need wide receiver. 938 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 3: I think that's true. 939 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: The way, yeah, the way Diggs play at the end 940 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: Miami A center. 941 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 3: I say, O line in general, but center mcgovernor there, mcgovernor. 942 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 3: One of the mix is uh is a free agent too, and. 943 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 2: Connor Williams Williams William Williams, and he's rehabing a to twenty. 944 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 2: So it's not even like you can just re sign 945 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 2: him and. 946 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 3: Say, oh, well, right, he was good for him. 947 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, the Patriots quarterback mm hmm. 948 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 3: Mac Jones and Picket aren't the same conversation. 949 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: Would you be interested in mac Jones for like a 950 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 2: six round draft pick? 951 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm very interested in mac Jones to buy on 952 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 3: ten cents on the dollar. 953 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's so immobile. 954 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 3: I understand that, But but I think he's way better 955 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,959 Speaker 3: than he's looked the last couple of weeks. 956 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 2: Sold a really raw deal. 957 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel for him. He's far from perfect, 958 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. But there's a lot of teams 959 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 3: I would look at and be like, maybe not Steelers, 960 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 3: maybe Tampa or you know, a team like that and 961 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 3: say I'll take him as my two and maybe he 962 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 3: beats out Baker. 963 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 2: Even that's a price I'm willing to pay and say, okay. 964 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 3: We're six. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, he's the same class 965 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: as Fields too. You get him for nothing this year. 966 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 3: You wouldn't pick up the fifth year option, but you 967 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 3: get him for one year. 968 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, if I'm dealing to six, that's what I'm 969 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 2: looking at doing. 970 00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 3: And I don't think he'll be a Patriot next year. 971 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 2: And I don't think so either. The Jets biggest need 972 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: offensive tackle, Yes, the Raven's biggest need pass rusher. 973 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 3: Their's kind of to be determined. They got there's just 974 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 3: a lot of balls in the area. 975 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 2: They haven't gotten anything from Oway or a Jabbo. 976 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 3: And it was van Ney and Clowney. I think both 977 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 3: are free agents. 978 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: Both are free agents. The best buquet is a free agent, right, 979 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: I would just say d line. Their offensive line is 980 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: also a sneaky need. 981 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 3: It is except for center. Yeah, there's no guaranteed long 982 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 3: term solution. You know. Zeitler's up, Moses is old, Stanley's 983 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 3: hurt and expensive. Left guard's fine but not special. Yeah. 984 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 2: Uh, Cincinnati biggest need tight end. How about a left 985 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: tackle or a right tackle I. 986 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 3: Should say, I mean they have zero tight ends on 987 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: the payroll. Yeah, if they. 988 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 2: Went in the next season with no tight ends on 989 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 2: their on their does that kill them? No, you don't. 990 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 2: You don't have a starting right tackle right now. 991 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 3: And they have three huge needs to me. And that's 992 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 3: even if they if they bring back Higgins. Because they 993 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 3: bring back Higgins, I don't think they'll have a third 994 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 3: receiver on the roster. 995 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 2: They might not have DJ Reader any man. 996 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 3: They really have four right tackle nose slash d tackle 997 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 3: with Reader and the Woozier's up. 998 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they get some issues. 999 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 3: They get some issues right and edge rusher, let's say 1000 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 3: a quarterback for them. Yeah, but now edge rusher, I 1001 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 3: guess fits. I don't know what else would be glaring 1002 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 3: for them. I think the Darius Smith that's up? Is that? 1003 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 2: Why? 1004 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 3: Is that why they picked that? 1005 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean they have some I don't think they're 1006 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 2: gonna be buying or anything soon. But I still don't 1007 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 2: think defensive tackles solved for them. 1008 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 3: I guess Wurfs and the wad Jones will be the 1009 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 3: tackles next year for one more year. 1010 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 2: One more year. 1011 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're gonna get old quick. 1012 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, their offensive lines not. 1013 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 3: It, That's not what it was. No, they don't have 1014 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 3: glaring needs. 1015 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 2: Maybe how about another wide receiver. 1016 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: I think that's high enalyst too. They also don't have 1017 00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 3: a first round pick. 1018 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: Correct. AFC South Houston's biggest need is another pass rusher. 1019 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 3: I bet they. I mean they're the San Francisco build. 1020 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 3: They're going to go D line early Colts cornerback. They 1021 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 3: drafted a ton of them last year. But he did 1022 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 3: when we did our mock, I had a hard time 1023 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 3: addressing their needs and I was like, I just gave 1024 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 3: him a pas rusher. 1025 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,240 Speaker 2: Jacksonville wide receiver. Seems like that's every year Ridley's. 1026 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 3: Up and Pittman's up. So, I mean, it depends if 1027 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 3: those guys come back. I think Pittman is a much 1028 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 3: better chance of being a Colt than Ridley, doesn't. 1029 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 2: Jagah Tennessee offensive tackle or just offensive lines in general. 1030 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 2: Across the board. AFC West Denver. 1031 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 3: Quarterback, Yes, Raiders a wee quarterback. 1032 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 2: To Kansas City wide receiver mm hmm, unless they lose 1033 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 2: Jones and then it becomes defensive tackle. Raiders is quarterback, 1034 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 2: the Chargers is a pass. 1035 00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:00,280 Speaker 3: Catcher, considering the contracts of Williams and Allen. Yeah, yeah, 1036 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 3: they're not gonna be hurting for needs either when you 1037 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 3: start factoring and they. 1038 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 2: Start who they have to get rid of. Looking at 1039 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 2: the NFC Dallas as a. 1040 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 3: Linebacker, Okay, therese aren't obvious either, but they're centers up, 1041 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 3: they're left tackles up. 1042 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Giants wide receiver, I would call it pass 1043 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 2: cast catcher. 1044 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1045 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: I mean Brock Bowers could land there or you know. 1046 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 2: The Eagles is linebacker. I would say more secondary from them. 1047 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 3: It's all bad. 1048 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole back seven Commanders is quarterback. 1049 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1050 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 2: The Bears wide receiver. 1051 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 3: I would probably pick something on defense. 1052 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, although the defense is pretty good in the SEC. 1053 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 3: Got a lot better. Ye, got a lot better, especially. 1054 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: If they if they resigned Jalen Johnson. 1055 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 3: I think they probably franchised him. 1056 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 2: Detroit is cornerback, Yes, the Packers is cornerback. 1057 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, tackle maybe. 1058 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 2: Minnesota quarterback isn't their biggest need if Cousins isn't on 1059 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 2: the roster. 1060 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 3: I mean, Cousins isn't the Viking right now, so I 1061 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 3: guess yeah, I think he'll be back. 1062 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 2: NFC South the Falcons quarterback, Yes, clearly. The Panthers wide receiver. 1063 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it can't be the feeling. I mean that's give Byron, 1064 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 3: give Young a chance. The Saints wide receiver, Thomas is up. 1065 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 3: Saints have a lot of needs, They have a lot 1066 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: of medium needs. Yeah, it could. 1067 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 2: Be a roster's getting old so old? 1068 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean could they take a quarterback. 1069 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, Tampa Bay Center, he retired. 1070 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 3: They have a lot of things they could go to too. Yeah, 1071 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 3: I mean, even a third receiver if Evans came back. 1072 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 3: I mean, how long is Evans and Godin going to 1073 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:38,439 Speaker 3: be there? 1074 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: And if it's if Evans leaves, David's gotten quite old, 1075 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 2: and I think White's up. 1076 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: I'm not positive on that. 1077 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 2: If he isn't, he wasn't playing at the end of 1078 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 2: the right NFC West, the Cardinals a pass rusher. 1079 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have Ageli and that's about it. 1080 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 2: The Rams and edge rusher Okay, Young's decent. 1081 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you need some mightn't ppair with him? 1082 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers cornerback. 1083 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say right tackle too. 1084 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 2: And the Seahawks edge rusher, I guess is the keeper. Yeah. 1085 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 2: Surprisingly on this list, you didn't see a lot of 1086 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 2: offensive line. No, but they're still going to be But 1087 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: it should that should be like every team's biggest name. 1088 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 3: And those tackles are going to go early and often. 1089 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1090 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so. No, I'm with you. 1091 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 2: I mean I think Chukes might get signed by somebody 1092 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 2: in the next two days or something. 1093 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, I mean, starting tackles 1094 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 3: don't grow in trees. 1095 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Anyways, he is, Well, the only thing 1096 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 2: that might hold that back is just one last fi yeah, 1097 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 2: is the teams may wait until after the draft to 1098 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 2: see if they got one or not. 1099 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe, like we're hoping Latham falls to us. Yeah, 1100 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 3: because there's. 1101 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 2: So many available in Miss's draft. It's one of the 1102 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 2: reasons why you probably would have been tough to trade him. 1103 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 2: We talked about that when we mentioned trading him. 1104 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 3: Maybe he signs like after day two, Yeah, that something 1105 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 3: like that. Oh yeah, yeah. 1106 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 2: Anyway, let's get through a break. He is Matt Williamson. 1107 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm dale that's going to do it for our number 1108 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 2: one of the drive. We'll be back with our number 1109 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 2: two right after this