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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome into a Monday edition of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am

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Speaker 1: John Harris, so incredibly excited. You know why it's combined week. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's finally here. And that voice you here is the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Texans. Mark van Meir, Mark, you said

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Speaker 1: something the other day. I want you to expand upon.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say you want to get it

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Speaker 1: off your chest, but oh boy, you said the comment

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Speaker 1: is one of your favorite events. It is my favorite

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Speaker 1: event period. And I go to the owners meetings. We

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Speaker 1: have this big digital summit that the fans don't know about,

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Speaker 1: but it's a big deal for people in the biz

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Been in the Pro Bowl. Look,

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl in Hawaii was pretty good. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what anybody says, like I know that on television

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Speaker 1: wasn't the greatest spectacle, but believe me, the players really

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Speaker 1: appreciated being there, and so did anybody working the event.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciated the Pro Bowl being in Why even

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Speaker 1: though a Looha stadium is a dumb Maybe they fixed

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Speaker 1: it up since then, so anyway, they're dumb. The combine

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Speaker 1: is my favorite Johnny because I think, you know, the

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Speaker 1: pressure is sort of off in a lot of ways

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Speaker 1: for us. You know, it's it's really the perfect way

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Speaker 1: to start a new league year, even though the league

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Speaker 1: year doesn't officially technically start until a month later or

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Speaker 1: a few weeks later. I just like getting everybody together.

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Speaker 1: You see all the coaches, all the assistance, virtually all

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Speaker 1: of the scouts. They're all there. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: go to the owners meetings, it's the head coaches, gms,

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Speaker 1: those types of people, the owners. And it's really cool

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Speaker 1: to be at the owners meetings, believe me. And I

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Speaker 1: get to sit in on the president's meeting sometimes Jamie

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Speaker 1: Roots brings me in there, and that is cool. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of great, high level stuff going on there

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Speaker 1: that I hear. That's wonderful, and I can share a

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Speaker 1: lot of that with the fans and just build my

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Speaker 1: own knowledge base. But the combine is the combin We

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Speaker 1: see all our peeps there, a lot of the voices

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Speaker 1: guys in there. Like I think I'm the only voice

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Speaker 1: of a team that goes to the owners meetings. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen maybe more than one other

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Speaker 1: guy there ever. At the owners meeting. What's interesting is I,

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Speaker 1: you know, my buddy Spacci who's silent for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: They're going to know each other. And so he texted

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Speaker 1: me when when I was in Mobile, He's like, where

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Speaker 1: are you? Like mobile? He goes, I know that, he goes,

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Speaker 1: but where And I was like, well, I'm in a stadium.

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Speaker 1: Where are you? He goes, Oh, I'm here too. I

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Speaker 1: was like, you decided to come to the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm curious to catch up with him as

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Speaker 1: to what his experience was like at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: because that's yours. Brandon Bean. The GM he did speak.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Sean McDermott spoke, but Brandon's, but

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean spoke at the Senior Bowl. And there weren't

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Speaker 1: that many media members. They were only probably I think

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Speaker 1: some good time with Brandon Bean. He goes to the Combine.

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Speaker 1: He's been going to the Combine. That's where we first met.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious and he the one thing he did

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Speaker 1: told me though, at the combin He's like, you gotta

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Speaker 1: go to the owners meetings and I was like really,

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Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, he goes, man, I get a ton

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Speaker 1: of info from the owners meetings, and I was like, interesting,

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Speaker 1: so I like going to the said that the sideline

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Speaker 1: reporter for the Bild he said, he said owners meetings

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Speaker 1: is the way to get the John Murphy show. John

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Speaker 1: Murphy is the voice in the film. I'm wondering if

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Speaker 1: John Murphy goes to the owners meetings. That's I don't know,

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Speaker 1: because he does that daily talk show, so I might

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Speaker 1: have seen him there. He'll be at the Combine for

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Speaker 1: He'll definitely combine. But the Yeah, it's interesting because I

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Speaker 1: think that at the owners meetings, you would like the

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Speaker 1: coaches round tables, right, you know right, But the problem

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Speaker 1: is they do them all at once now, so for

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Speaker 1: one hour, you know, I can't leave the Bill O'Brien table.

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Speaker 1: You know. In years past, that's why you need people

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Speaker 1: Like they do the NFC in another day and I'd

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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin saying something about Seth Payne and I said

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Speaker 1: There there's a lot you can do there, but they're

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Speaker 1: consolidating everything. For instance, Tomorrow's are one day to see

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Speaker 1: all the coaches and GM's at the combine being both

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Speaker 1: you want to go a little further with this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know who's also it's one day for all the

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Speaker 1: the same day for quarterbacks, wide receivers and running backs.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's crazy. And I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: media does not go right, so you don't I think,

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Speaker 1: like the Chronicle, I think it's just McClane. Yes, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Wilson would be there and own dime. I think Aaron Wilson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if they let that happen. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. But my I saw it earlier today on

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Speaker 1: the twitters and it was I'm pretty sure they're they're

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Speaker 1: actually being measured right now. The quarterbacks are right, And

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Speaker 1: I was like, what am I doing? Because they've changed

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Speaker 1: the skeed, they've changed the schedule so much for the

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Speaker 1: combine um and we have the credential to go in there,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, like doing that and I have

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Speaker 1: my my spreadsheet. I think you've seen it. I've got

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Speaker 1: up feeding the Harris one hundred. So uh so I

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Speaker 1: I saw it was going on. I looked the schedule,

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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, they arrived last night, they're getting measured

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Speaker 1: think people for the players that are there, the college

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Speaker 1: players that are there, I don't think they realize what

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Speaker 1: forty and they're done. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean. They have one day where they do

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Speaker 1: all their measurements, all their medicals, they have their player interview,

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Speaker 1: more interviews? Position meetings? That that's one thing I didn't

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Speaker 1: So all the linebackers have to get together to talk

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Speaker 1: lot of interview stuff today. Look, and that's crucial. I

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Speaker 1: think they're medical stuff. I know we talk about this

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Speaker 1: Roots says people don't need to be educated as much

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Speaker 1: But he also says great ideas are never lonely. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's true, great great ideas are never lonely. People share them,

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Speaker 1: they copy them, they do whatever. So but he in that,

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Speaker 1: pride and measure, and they need to know exactly what

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Speaker 1: is going on medically with these guys, what they've suffered,

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Speaker 1: how it's healing, what lingers, what is still there they

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Speaker 1: find stuff about guys. Are numerous stories about finding ailments,

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Speaker 1: to the combine. Yeah, here's the other thing, but the combine.

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Speaker 1: I gotta talk to these NFL people. Man. They don't

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Speaker 1: part of me that comes out, and it drives me.

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Speaker 1: that's my age. Yes, I'm gonna turn thirty nine point

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Speaker 1: nine next year, by the way, next October, so I'll

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Speaker 1: get into that. But yeah, like it's like saying eight

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Speaker 1: upsets you as a former math teacher. It bothers you

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Speaker 1: taught math, and what else did you teach? Physics? Physics? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I taught ap calculus barely past physics. You taught physics. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do, I do, Johnny? How do you? First of all,

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Speaker 1: when you had it done? When you got it done?

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Speaker 1: It's good to get it done. I know it feels

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm waiting. I'm waiting for you to wail on

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Speaker 1: this stuff. Here's the problem. And I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, believe it or not. I don't go through

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Speaker 1: three hundred prospects and determine what they're projected round might be.

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Speaker 1: I don't do this, Johnny. Yeah, And I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: you know you have your Harris one hundred, but to

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Speaker 1: boil it down to one hundred, I know you're going

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Speaker 1: through hundreds of players, and some of these guys you've

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Speaker 1: been following for years, since high school or whatever. And

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Speaker 1: that's that's a tribute to you. Your first round pick

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Speaker 1: first round pick was Laramie Tunson. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Your first round pick is one of those guys, Laramie.

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Speaker 1: And I told Laramie this. Laramie's from Lake City Columbia

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Speaker 1: when they do, like all their high school sections, Columbia

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Speaker 1: always gets mentioned in. Columbia has had players for years,

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Speaker 1: I mean decades. I mean when I was there my

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Speaker 1: Kendall Pope played it first state. Yeah yeah, and Kendall

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Speaker 1: He was one of the better high school players that

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of Texans All Access, a combine edition. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, John Harris along with Mark vandermir and we're

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Speaker 1: breaking down vander Mock one point. Oh, and we have

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown last week who went very very very late.

423
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Speaker 1: What round was he drafted? And O two with David

424
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 1: Carr and Joey Harrington and Patrick Rams and he lasts

425
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: this long in the league and they're countless examples like

426
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: that back tr we were just talking about him. So

427
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: maybe Edwards is able to survive. Yeah, And and I

428
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: think Brian Edwards fully healthy. And that's the thing that

429
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 1: that will never know. The teams will know is how healthy?

430
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: You know, what's his recovery time? And obviously because we

431
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 1: talked about the quarterbacks, rod receivers and running backs being

432
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: there today, of course everybody wants to know about two

433
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 1: of what's what's to his prospects? Now with Edwards, you

434
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: think it's I don't say cut and dry when it

435
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 1: comes to injury, but what about TWA two was gonna

436
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: be that guy where everybody's asking about, like, okay, how's

437
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 1: the hip? And then it's a hip, It's like, oh yeah, hips.

438
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: And when it was first going round, but it was like,

439
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: but would say, you're you're your next fourth round, fourth

440
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: round pick from the Miami Dolphins. Right, And that's the

441
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: key thing to remember because you're getting Laramie Tonsil and

442
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: a pick from the Dolphins. Did this hurt your heart?

443
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: Have to do this? What to go Stanford Samuel's no

444
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: to go Florida State? Yes, a little bit it did.

445
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: But you know, part of me, I'm I'm with a

446
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: lot of the other Kings, which is I have a

447
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: respect for Florida State, right. Florida's the Gators are the

448
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: real villains here, even though they don't play them that much.

449
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: But I do root for Florida State and basketball because

450
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: Leonard Hamilton, who was in Miami when I was there,

451
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: that's at different, a little b different. I understand that anyway.

452
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,239
Speaker 1: Bob Sap who played for the year. I mean, if

453
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Speaker 1: my buddy was coaching Harvard, I'd be like, Okay, I

454
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: want you to win that Harvard. So I get the point. Yeah,

455
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: I have that with Calipariy Kentucky. By the way, I

456
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: hate Kentucky, respect him, right him Like Caliparry. It's tough

457
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: anyway you go. Stanford Samuel's the third to corner flour State.

458
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 1: Now Stanford Samuel's the second played at Florida State when

459
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: I was with right right, I mean, this guy's a

460
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: young man. He had a kid at a young age,

461
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: and he ended up the father ended up playing in

462
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Speaker 1: the CFL. And I think he's coaching now if I'm

463
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: not mistaken. Now I go back here though comparison Covington

464
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: and his dad was a CFL Hall of Famer. Now

465
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: we get another one whose dad was in the CFL. Look,

466
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm look, I'm reaching here. I'm just pointed out trivial facts.

467
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: So I love Vandermok. But but Vandermok is filled with

468
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: this stuff, and I think that, like we talked about

469
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs and his younger brother, you know, when you

470
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: have a dad who played professional ball anywhere, I think

471
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: it does help and I think there's some good advice there.

472
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be interesting to see how he

473
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: assimilates into the National Football League. What do you think

474
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: of him as a player now, he's tall, not very big,

475
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: like he's one eighty five or something like that. Everyone's

476
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna be curious to see what he really weighs. But look,

477
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: we have food here, Johnny, and we have a weight room.

478
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: I just checked. I confirmed that there's food in a

479
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: weight room here, and you can work him out. Well,

480
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: we've seen some guys pack on a little bit of win.

481
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: I know everybody kind of pokes fun Kevin Johnson, but

482
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: we saw Kevin come in here, and I'm Kevin was

483
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: thin when he got here. But when he left after

484
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: three or four years of me in the weight room,

485
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: Kevin was not the biggest guy. Kevin was never gonna

486
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: be the biggest guy. But you could see when you

487
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: saw him every day, like, Okay, he's packed on some weight.

488
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: He's definitely a lot bigger than what he got here.

489
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: And we saw him, you know, for Buffalo. He definitely

490
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: was a lot bigger than he was when he first

491
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: got here. So you're right, that can definitely happen. And

492
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: when these players don't have to worry about going to

493
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: class anymore, you can make it just football. Then away

494
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: you go, this is such a distraction. And when your

495
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: dad's been a professional professional football player, I think it

496
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: helps you too. I mean, I think of Devin Bush,

497
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: you know, with Michigan, who went to the Steelers. You know,

498
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: his dad before him played at floor State, played in

499
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: the league. I just think that stuff helps these younger

500
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: players have a little bit of perspective, you know, walking

501
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: in the locker room to kind of get it. They

502
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: understand a little bit more so as a player, I think,

503
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that's got that length in that size,

504
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: you go, fourth round. Can you get a guy like

505
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: that in the fourth round? Yeah. I don't think his

506
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: game has completely come together yet, and I think that's

507
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: one of the reasons probably why he's here in the

508
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: fourth round. But I'll take a guy that's got size

509
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: and length and can run, and that's gonna be the key.

510
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: Can he run and we'll find that out when we

511
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: get to the combat. Fifth round. Undis to see what

512
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: you think of Michael Warren, the running back from Cincinnati

513
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: who is not a This is not a sexy pick.

514
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: Look it's round five. Stop freaking out, everybody, it's the

515
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: fifth round. He's two twenty five to eleven. He's a

516
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 1: whole puncher, okay, that gets yards often when there's not

517
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: much there because of just powering through. He's a tough back.

518
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: I see him as a Bill O'Brien type of back. Yeah.

519
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if he makes the team or not.

520
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: I don't look, I know, I don't even if they

521
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: draft him or not if he gets drafted, But I

522
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of like him as an NFL player. Yeah, he

523
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: mentioned it. He's very similar size wise to Carlos and

524
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: that's a kind of running back. And I mean we

525
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: saw it with Carlos Layton games later in the year.

526
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: Those are guys that defensive backs, defensive players who are like, dah,

527
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: I gotta tackle this guy again, Like I gotta tackle

528
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: him for the eighteenth, nineteenth, twentieth time in a game

529
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: that becomes so difficult. He declared, a year early, and

530
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, that's putting me behind on him, just

531
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: because there were so many of running back that A

532
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: I was expecting to come out and be I knew

533
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna be you know, seniors and graduating guys that

534
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: were at the Senior Bowl. But I have seen this

535
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: guy play, and when I see him play, he is

536
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: ultra productive, picking up first downs down inside the red zone, uh,

537
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: down inside the five round side of ten, having a

538
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: nose for the end zone. I saw this and I went, Mark,

539
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: that's excellent. Okay, that's an excellent pick. Fifth excellent pick.

540
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: And this is so validating for me. That's an excellent

541
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: pick in the fifth round. I like it. You will

542
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: not be in the Harris one hundred, but that's that's

543
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: a really good pick in the fifth round. Well, I

544
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: mean the fifth round. You're not you're outside the way

545
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: outside the hair, I mean the Harris two hundred. If

546
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: I'm lucked, that's fine. Seventh rounder. Would you like to

547
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: hear this? Yes, all right, so you tell me this.

548
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: Johnny Nebraska has two big behemoth three the three really

549
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: up front. Yeah, and I didn't check. I gotta admit

550
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: it's the seventh round, So I didn't do all my research.

551
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: The draft is winding down, and I just I just

552
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: need to, like, you know, wind down the day. How

553
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: were they against the run with these dudes, these big dudes,

554
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: because Dorian Daniels, Yeah, Darian Daniels is a I don't

555
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: think the interior running was the issue. I think teams

556
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: that ran on them, especially in the Big Ten, were

557
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: able to do more things outside outside. Yeah. There they

558
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: got three guys, they were really good. At least two

559
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: might play in this league, right Daniels one of them,

560
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: big dude. You know, he's like three twenty five, so

561
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: he's a vending machine. He's a few biscuits above three

562
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: twenty five. Okay, good, just just a few, good, just

563
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: a few. He's he's one of those guys. I like

564
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: these big vending machines in the middle. You know that. Yes,

565
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: I mean I you can never have enough of those guys.

566
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: Let's bring him in here, see what he can do.

567
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: It's round seven, you know, maybe you give him that

568
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: fake red shirt year, whatever happens. But you know, it's

569
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: again late in the draft. I want to get a

570
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: run stopper. I don't know what's gonna happen with DJ.

571
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: So that's how I concluded the Vandermak. Yeah, he started

572
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: his career at Okahoma State, then moved in Nebraska. He

573
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl six three and a half

574
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: three twenty two. Now here's an interesting aspect about a

575
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: guy at three twenty two. They know people hear this

576
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: and go, wait what He's got eighty one and an

577
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: eighth inch arms And you're like, wait a second. Well,

578
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are three hundred and twenty

579
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: two pounds are stout, kind of fire plugs, got short

580
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: arms and just you know they do the bench press,

581
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: they just put in their arms. Are you know, like

582
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: they don't have the wingspan at eighty one in an

583
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: eighth so this guy does. He's got thirty three and

584
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: a half inch arms. So guy in three twenty two

585
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: with that kind of arm length, it it would you

586
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: would think he would be a little bit better pass

587
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: rusher than than just that. But he's he's a big dude.

588
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: I remember seeing him at the Senior Bowl going whoa

589
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: that guy? Wait now I'm getting confused with Yeah, he

590
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl. He was a Senior Bowl

591
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: because I get him confused with the other. There was

592
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: another Nebraska player who went for the Shrine Bowl a

593
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: day one of the Davis is. I think the other

594
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: two are Davis's. So this guy, I just remember seeing

595
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: him like, Wow, that's a that's a big guy. And

596
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: I remember seeing him go across the stage and I've

597
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: seen some big guys at the at the Senior Bowl,

598
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: but he was like, oh, okay, he's good size. So

599
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: three twenty two with long arms and length, you think, okay,

600
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: maybe you can start using that length and be a

601
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: decent pass rusher. So that's the one thing I would

602
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: like to see them try and incorporate is somebody from

603
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: the interior that could do some pass rushing every kind

604
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: of nice Yeah, that would be because it feels like

605
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: found money when you get interior password. I like the

606
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: way you think. Nice job, Mark. Thank you, Johnny. There

607
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: it is. We'll come back. We're gonna talk with our

608
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: buddy Sean Pendergast for Sports Radio six ten. Right here

609
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: in Texas Access. We got one final segment of this

610
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Speaker 1: edition of Texas All Access on this Monday evening from

611
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Speaker 1: the day Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris,

612
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: and my very first co host in radio. There's a

613
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. He can hear him on Sports

614
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Radio six ten for two to six. He's our pregame host,

615
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: post game host. He does it all. It's Sean Pendergast,

616
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: who did some twelve question work with already starting with

617
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: one of my favorites, over under drew over under, Oh yeah, yeah,

618
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 1: twenty nine passing touchdowns for Deshaun Watson. I'm gonna go

619
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over with that. This is without having

620
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: I've looked at the opponents they have next year. It's

621
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you can, you can look ahead to the

622
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: opponents for the next twenty years if you want to,

623
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: other than the two variable games, but I haven't looked

624
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: at them to the extent that I've deciphered their past

625
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: defenses and things like that. Now Deshawn's torn up some

626
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: pretty good defenses, so I don't know that it totally matters,

627
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go over twenty nine. I boy, you

628
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: want to hear about a bad beat I had over

629
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: twenty six and a half this past season, did you really? Yes?

630
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: And he had twenty five with like three games to go, Yeah,

631
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: and then he didn't play the last game he playing

632
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: the last game, and the touchdown pass he threw in

633
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: the Tampa game. I think I pulled back as was defels.

634
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: If Darren Fells just reaches forward two inches, then I'm

635
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: a couple of dollars richer. Um. So I didn't get

636
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: that one. I was a bad beat. But I'm gonna

637
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: I would never if I were putting money on it.

638
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: I'd never been under Deshaun because I don't bet on

639
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: things that I'm like when I have a rooting interest

640
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: on what I root for. I'm not total cutthroat gambler

641
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: that way where I can just totally go into business

642
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: for myself. But I'm gonna go over and I think

643
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. One, I think it's just

644
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: the natural progression of Deshaun. I think that he was

645
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: only a twenty six last year was a little bit

646
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: of a fluke. So I think, you know, you're banking

647
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: on a little bit of health. I'm banking on everything

648
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: being better offensively, just a little uptick, you know what

649
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean. The offensive line has room, while it's talented,

650
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: has room to improve. Will Fuller, God bless, hopefully this

651
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: will be the year that he's healthy for most of

652
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: the season, Kenny stills in the offense for another year,

653
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: maybe they get something out of the tight ends. I'm

654
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: anxious to see what they do at running back aside

655
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: from Duke Johnson, if Carlos Hyde comes back or whatever.

656
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: But I just think the natural progression for Deshaun, He's

657
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: a guy where the green arrows pointed up. So I'm

658
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: gonna go over twenty nights that your number? Is that

659
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: the number that they put out there? Well, I was

660
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: gonna explain because twenty nine. No text and quarterback or

661
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: group of quarterbacks in the season has ever thrown for

662
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: more than twenty nine. And Mark Vanmer has a fetish

663
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: about the statistic. He's wanting to break this. He wants

664
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: to see thirty. Yeah, So that's why I just I

665
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: set that number, and I think he'll break it too.

666
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: Just he keeps getting smarter, he keeps learning more, and

667
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean he started out blazing, you know, and most

668
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: guys they start out they struggle a rookies and then

669
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: they struggle a little less or second year, third year.

670
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: I think as a starter, I think it stands to

671
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: reason he's going to improve. And it kind of leads

672
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: into the next question. Yeah, what is next for Deshaun

673
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Watson in twenty twenty. Well, I mean big picture obviously,

674
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: you just you you got to make a deeper playoff run.

675
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: But I think that's something. I think that's something that

676
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: is uh that that's the case for for everybody. Um,

677
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: I think it's probably there's still things that he does

678
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: that I think frustrate people. Like he's spectacular, he's awesome,

679
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: he's one of the top five quarterbacks in football. But

680
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: I think it's you look at that spectacular play against

681
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo that he made where he got into the car

682
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: wreck and he spun out of it and he hits

683
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones. It didn't have to be that way, you

684
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like being able to pick up

685
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: the things that are going on on that play before

686
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: it happens, so that you don't have to put yourself

687
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: in that type of situation. Now, sometimes it's the rest

688
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: of the offense or the offensive line that's putting him

689
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: in those situations. Right where he's spinning at he's spinning

690
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: out of somebody's clutches, gets kicked in the face against

691
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders and then makes the game winning touchdown pass

692
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: that was nothing to do with Deshaun misreading something or

693
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: holding the ball too long. But I think I think

694
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: it's that. I think it's just being overall more comfortable

695
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: in the offense, getting rid of the football on time.

696
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: He still holds the ball a little bit sometimes um

697
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: reading things pre snap, which I just know he's he's

698
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: already really good at you see those explanations that he does. Yeah,

699
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: He's only gonna get better. Yeah. So I think it's

700
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: like it's it's hard to find something where you go, Okay,

701
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: what's the thing that he needs to provi I think

702
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: just from a results based standpoint, he needs to be

703
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: more consistent. His bad performances were just way too bad

704
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: last year. I think that's what separates him in the

705
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: conversation from Saam Mahomes or in the regular season last year,

706
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson, is that if you go look at

707
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: their seasons on the aggregate over sixteen or I guess

708
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: in the case of Mahomes, you know, thirteen or fourteen games,

709
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: they're bad. Games are never bad games where you go,

710
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: oh my god, what happened to Deshawn's bad games last year?

711
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: You know, the Carolina game, they only put up ten points,

712
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: the Baltimore game where everybody was bad in that game.

713
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: But but DeShawn made a lot of mistakes in that game.

714
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: He needs to the ceiling of his game is what

715
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: it is. He can be the best quarterback in the league.

716
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: He needs to raise the floor. I think, you know,

717
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: he needs to eliminate those three or four games where

718
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: he was a big reason why they lost games that

719
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: they shouldn't. And see, I think it will get a

720
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: little bit higher the floor because two years ago he

721
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: got hit sixty two times. Yeah, that number got shaved

722
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: down quite a bit. This year still got hit too much. Yeah,

723
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: but I think it goes down even more. And I

724
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: think with that happening, I think much much, much improves

725
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: on this offense. His numbers are great when he has

726
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: time to throw. Yeah, you know, when he has time

727
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: to throw, he's got a clean pocket. He's spectacular. I

728
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: always describe it with quarterbacks. To me, I judge quarterbacks

729
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: when I'm watching a game on TV and if I'm rooting,

730
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, usually have a rooting interest in almost any

731
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: game for recreational purposes. And uh and and to me,

732
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: like the just the regular Joe sixpack litmus test is

733
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: when I'm watching the ball leave a quarterback's hands, what

734
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: are my what's my confidence level that there's something positive

735
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: on the other end of that pass, Either confident that

736
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to happen with someone I'm rooting for, or

737
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: confident that it's going to happen, like, oh crap, you

738
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: know he's about to he's about to hit somebody over

739
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: the middle for about twenty or twenty five yards. What's

740
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: my confidence level when they're throwing, when the play goes

741
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: as it's supposed to be, playing like pockets clean looking downfield,

742
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: reading his progressions, releasing the ball. When Deshaun is clean

743
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: pocket steps into a throw, reading his progressions, and you're

744
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: watching it on TV and the ball leaves the ball

745
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: leaves his hands, I feel like the screen, the cameras

746
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: are going to pay into something really good happening, you

747
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he's just if he's got

748
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: time to throw, good things are gonna happen for the Texans,

749
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: no doubt. Yeah, all right, the twenty nineteen rookie. So

750
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: the guy who was just a rookie this year, Yeah,

751
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: you're most anxious to see in twenty twenty. Yeah, I

752
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: think one that we didn't see at all, Hallie Waring.

753
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: We don't know if Darren Fells is going to be back. Yeah,

754
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan Thomas didn't do much this year. You know,

755
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Thomas could be fighting for a job.

756
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Nakins, I think is fine, but I think he's

757
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: still got room to grow. I think it's Holly wearing

758
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: just on definition of the fact that we only saw

759
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: him for a few practices and there was a lot

760
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: of excitement. Maybe overstating it, but there was definitely sort

761
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: of a you know, a bubbling up of like, oh, intrigue.

762
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: I guess I'm guilty. I mean, because he looked awesome

763
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: in the rookie mini camp, when he played in OTA's

764
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: he was pretty darn good. And the short time he

765
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: was on the field in training camp, he was really good.

766
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: Like he he kind of ate the Packers defense alive

767
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: in one of those practices and we saw and then

768
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: he gets knocked out, he gets a concussion. You don't

769
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: see him. But the stuff that the brief stuff we

770
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: saw of him was very, very fascinating. His background is

771
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: incredibly fascinating, just given what he did at San Diego State.

772
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: The athleticism is off the charts, and he fits in

773
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: perfectly in that regard with the tight ends room because

774
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: you get a former baseball player in their professional baseball player,

775
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: you get a former professional basketball player in Fells, and

776
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: then you kind of had a freak of nature in

777
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: six foot seven inch college wide receiver Jordan Thomas. Yeah. Yeah,

778
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: some diverse backgrounds. So it's probably it's wearing for me.

779
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: As far as the guys who got on the field.

780
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: Maybe if since you and I both I think are

781
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: saying wearing here, I would. I think it might beat

782
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: Charles and Menehu of the guys who got on the

783
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: field last sure could use it. Yeah, well, it's a need.

784
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: They need someone who can rush the password. They need

785
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: someone who can rush the passer from the interior, which

786
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: I think he can do. And I'm just really anxious

787
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: to see what this defense looks like with Anthony Weaver

788
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: coordinating it. Um, you know what, he knows the defensive

789
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: line better than anybody, and knows him manyhu better than

790
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: anybody having coached him. So I'm anxious to see. And

791
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: I saw a tweet from a Minihue this week, and

792
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: I guess he's on some sort of diet this I

793
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: don't know if he's yeah, he's atkins. No, I hope

794
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: it's not his weight. I hope it's just to take

795
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: whatever his weight is and inside his body redistributed to

796
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: things that make him a more explosive person. Yeah. Um,

797
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: but in many he would probably be the one of

798
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: the guys who got on the field last year. I

799
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: hope he's eating lightning and crapping thunder there. Yeah, so

800
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: that's what I want to break out Houston, Texan in

801
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty who was not a twenty nineteen rookie. And

802
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: I say breakout in kind of loose terms, and they

803
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: don't have to be uh, you know, Adrian Peterson in

804
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: twenty two thousand and eight. Or I'm just saying, like

805
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: a market improvement from a guy in twenty twenty who

806
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: you saw last year, who's over Um, who did I

807
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: want to see or that I think will happen. Lonnie

808
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: Johnson would sure be a nice It would sure it

809
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: would be nice if Lonnie Johnson would live up to

810
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: being a second round pick. Um. You know there's another

811
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: guy who showed flat. I mean, he had his struggles,

812
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: he did, and he was he was a little bit

813
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: nicked up in that game, the Chiefs game. Well, like

814
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: he basically on the the igniting kick return. Yeah, he

815
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: got hurt on that day. Yeah, he kind of like

816
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: jiggled his ankle or leg or something. Yeah that's not

817
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: to say, but I'm just saying we didn't seem full strange. Yeah,

818
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: but you said not out of the twenty nineteen rookie class, right,

819
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: he was somebody else. So he was a rookie, So

820
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: somebody else among the people. Um who uh, you know

821
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: what I'd like to see more Duke Johnson. That's what

822
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: I would like to see more more Duke Johnson. Um.

823
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: He's going to be part of this team for the

824
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: next couple of years. That's I love. You know, a

825
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: lot of people criticize Bill O'Brien for giving up a

826
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: third round pick for Duke Johnson. Um, and it'll be

827
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: a comp pick. Yeah it's not the third round. Yeah,

828
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: but still you know, but but a pick, you know,

829
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: a pick, a day two pick. A lot of people

830
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: criticize him for that, and I just think to myself,

831
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I I guess I get it. Draft pick

832
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: valuation is a really weird thing, and some of it's

833
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: a time of year that you're doing it where demand

834
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: is higher than others, and right before the draft and

835
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: this and that. I just think that Duke Johnson made

836
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: so many plays for this team. Given up, you'd have

837
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: been a Creek without you absolutely would have. I mean

838
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: he was. He made plays the third and eighteen play alone.

839
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: You don't win that game if he doesn't make that

840
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: Burt and eighteen in the playoff game. And I'm not

841
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: here to say Duke Johnson's worth three wins. What I

842
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: am here to say is he made huge plays in

843
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Speaker 1: many many when they were winning football games. Duke Johnson

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Speaker 1: was probably a part of the game in some way,

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Speaker 1: the games where he was getting double digit touches. And

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Speaker 1: I know people try to simplify and say, well, look

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Speaker 1: he's averaging five and a half yards a carry, so

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Speaker 1: just keep feeding him. The ball doesn't work that way,

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Speaker 1: Like there's a there's a diminishing returns with certain guys.

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Speaker 1: So I think I think O'Brien and the Texans know

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Speaker 1: what they have in Duke Johnson. I just think that

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Speaker 1: they can use him, they can use him a little

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Speaker 1: bit more, and I think they will, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they will with time. With you know this, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna a full training camp and everything else. A lot

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Speaker 1: of these guys were talking about weren't here for training,

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Speaker 1: And that's a question I'm bringing up later on. So

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Speaker 1: let's fear off here. We did this couple weeks ago

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Speaker 1: in a Texans All Access radio segments, So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get you involved too. Okay, cool former Texan who is retired. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he's not still in the league, but a retired

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Speaker 1: former Texan. But you'd like to add to this current roster? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Am I adding them at their at the peak of

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Speaker 1: their powers? Okay? That they were basically a text not

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Speaker 1: ed Reid. No, no, no, no, I don't mean Ded

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Speaker 1: Reid at the peak of his ravens right, sure, I'd

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Speaker 1: love to add that, right right. Um. The one that

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Speaker 1: would just be just be getting creedy would be Andre Johnson, right, like,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have nicked Yeah he's picked. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, Hopkins and Will Fuller. Um, but I think

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Speaker 1: I'll give you one offensive and one defensive. Owen Daniels

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Speaker 1: at the peak of his powers. I think would mesh

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00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: just so nicely with Deshaun Watson and give him such

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Speaker 1: a sweet target in the middle of the field, and

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Speaker 1: it would it would kind of minimize some of the

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Speaker 1: impact of them being a little bit wonky at the

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Speaker 1: slot receiver Right now too, he's the greatest tight end

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Speaker 1: team history, Yeah, no question, And so I think that

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Speaker 1: I would say two thousand and nine Bryant Cushing is

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Speaker 1: who I would add to the defense. Yep, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine. Cushing nature outside linebacker, who's who did everything

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Speaker 1: like that was that was picked off passes, seas, yeah, hey, tackles,

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Speaker 1: he brought swackers sideline. I just remember him Drew in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, watching him and turning to people

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Speaker 1: when I'd be watching me than the press box or wherever,

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Speaker 1: and saying, like, the Texans have never really had a

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Speaker 1: guy like this. And I didn't mean as a player,

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Speaker 1: although that was probably accurate at the time the team

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Speaker 1: was only seven years old, but just a guy who

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Speaker 1: who carried himself that way. That was why it was

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Speaker 1: such a shame what happened with him with the injuries

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00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: three or four years later, because it didn't rob him

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Speaker 1: of any of that, but he just didn't have he

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Speaker 1: didn't have that same Oh if he's still a good player,

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Speaker 1: but he wasn't what he was early in his career

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Speaker 1: to kind of match those two things. That that's one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest what ifs to me in Texans history

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00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: is what if? What if Matt Slawson doesn't slice Cushing's knee,

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Speaker 1: because that that's the ripple effect to so many things,

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Speaker 1: both individually for Cushing and as a team for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: You know, their defense wasn't the same that year after that.

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00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: So true, so unfortunately, very true. It's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Try to hear more of that. Go to the in

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Speaker 1: Lap podcast aside here Sean and Drew. That was some

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Speaker 1: great stuff. Hopefully you sew them on Texas three sixty

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Speaker 1: on Saturday evening. All Right, we gotta go. We're an Indy.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go kill it at the Combine. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow. Coach Bill O'Brien on the show Do

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Speaker 1: not miss and w that for you tomorrow on Texas

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Speaker 1: All Access. He you tomorrow, everybody. Let's always go Texans.