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Speaker 1: Podcast has begun. Welcome all to the one and only

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Speaker 1: podcast Stradio Lab. In a world where there is only

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Speaker 1: one podcast? Who this wants it? In a world with

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Speaker 1: but one podcast? Will you hit play? Do you know

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking? Sam? I was reading this book

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and it was talking about

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Speaker 1: how the movie Children of Men is a really good

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Speaker 1: depiction of like the kind of apocalypse that we should anticipate,

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Speaker 1: like in a late capitalist society, because what happens is

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Speaker 1: you basically get like an apocalyptic world existing at the

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Speaker 1: same time as a normal world. Do you know, So

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Speaker 1: it's like everything is falling apart, but you can get

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Speaker 1: something delivered on Amazon. Sure, not like everything is completely destroyed,

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Speaker 1: and then we all there's just like abandoned warehouses with

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Speaker 1: like mutant rats. It's like that's what's so evil about

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Speaker 1: it is that like, um truly like you can get

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Speaker 1: like you know, you can go on caviare app and

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Speaker 1: get uh you know, birds of a feather. Let's say

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Speaker 1: a restaurant I recently got delivery from, and then you

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Speaker 1: can and then you can all and then but at

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Speaker 1: the same time, you know, uh, there is fascism widespread. Sure, sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean I can feel that right now and the

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Speaker 1: only and so I mentioned it because I was I

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Speaker 1: was like that with like our podcast being the last

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Speaker 1: podcast available, it's like, will still be podcasting, no, the

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Speaker 1: world ending, no, and we will have no idea that

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Speaker 1: we're part of this. Yeah, I don't like it. It's

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Speaker 1: like when I started this podcast, Like when I started

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Speaker 1: this podcast podcast, it was the world was such a good,

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Speaker 1: good place, no one had any complaints. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to normal. Of course, talking February, the good old days,

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Speaker 1: the good old days, Oh my god, do you remember February? No,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was incredible. Yeah, I actually think

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Speaker 1: back on February with not there was not a bad

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Speaker 1: day in February. Yes, I mean, you do have that

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Speaker 1: very famous part of one of our early episodes, which

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Speaker 1: has now been sampled in many pop songs, where you

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Speaker 1: talk about how you think Bernie is gonna win and

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Speaker 1: uh and and we're and you say, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to go back to normal because normal was already bad.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have in you normally and it's gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: And also chromatic is going to be good. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, only one of those things came true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: only one of those things came true. Chromatica is good.

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Speaker 1: But I would also argue that I was half right

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Speaker 1: in that there would be a new normal. I just

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Speaker 1: didn't know that new normal would actually be much worse

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Speaker 1: So I was about to make it very Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I guess you were a hundred percent right ultimately. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if our listeners can tell, but

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Speaker 1: we had talked before this, and we said we're going

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Speaker 1: to attempt to be more mellow this episode. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I I just okay if I can, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I could talk. I just don't feel like, okay, wait,

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Speaker 1: I can be mellow. Okay, mellow podcast starts now, Okay,

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Speaker 1: oh oh what's up? Sub Wait? Oh okay, where do

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Speaker 1: you think? How do you where do you think mix

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Speaker 1: Emma is right now? You know they have moved home

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Speaker 1: at this point. I agree. And you know, the thing

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Speaker 1: doesn't walk the walk. Yeah, they're still they're they're reposting

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Speaker 1: other people's pictures from the trans Black Lives Matter March

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Speaker 1: as if they were still in Boklyn. And you want

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Speaker 1: to know something else about mix semma, I bet you

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Speaker 1: they posted eight can't Wait. Oh no, I think so.

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Speaker 1: You know, the eight can't Wait campaign. The lifespan of

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Speaker 1: that was incredible, just can't wait campaign for abolishing podcasts.

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Speaker 1: The eight can't Wait it was Yeah, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure someone said it. It was fire Festival. It was,

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Speaker 1: it really was. We were all there, we all bought in,

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Speaker 1: and then we were all wrong. Well, this is not

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Speaker 1: chill Eat or George. No, we can't. We can't be chill. No,

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Speaker 1: it's it's weird because when we start, when we try

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Speaker 1: to talk about the same stupid things we always talk about,

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Speaker 1: do that right now. Ready, mellow podcast where we're talking

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Speaker 1: about a normal thing starts now. Okay, it's up George,

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Speaker 1: it's up. I just got I just had a bond

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Speaker 1: me and it was so good yummers um wait. I also,

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Speaker 1: Um that made me think of that song that's like

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Speaker 1: manneic and psychotic. Okay, wait, no, what if we're bringing

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Speaker 1: our guest? Is that crazy? That's genius? Okay? Is that

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Speaker 1: actually like the smartest thing I've said so far? I

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Speaker 1: think it's up there. I mean, you said a lot

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Speaker 1: of smart stuff like that whole Children of Men things, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I did read that in

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Speaker 1: a book that I didn't write. Oh, and I meant

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Speaker 1: to riff on that actually, and I wanted to say, um, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: they're writing books about movies. Now, I've seen everything books

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Speaker 1: about movies, podcasts about straight things, you know, movies about books.

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Speaker 1: Adaptations of their adapting Honey Straight. That was I can't

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Speaker 1: keep up what they adapted a podcast into an Amazon

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Speaker 1: Prime series. Julia Robert did you know that it's called Homecoming?

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Speaker 1: And there was already a Homecoming and it might Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: Imagine Julia Roberts watching Homecoming and being like, I can

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Speaker 1: this better. I'm gonna name my I'm gonna name my

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime series based on a podcast the same name

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Speaker 1: that Beyonce's universally acclaimed concert film was called. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: just like, okay, should we change our name? It's like no,

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Speaker 1: Like it's like yeah. It's like if we started a

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Speaker 1: good Fellas, it wouldn't make any sense. Our guest is,

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Speaker 1: in fact, one of the best fellas I know, one

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Speaker 1: of the most funny people in the world, someone who,

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Speaker 1: in fact, we are very indebted to. Because, due to

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Speaker 1: I also I have to I have one thing I'm

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Speaker 1: I want to clarify that I did not mean because

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Speaker 1: of the relentless tragedy of existence right now, but just

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Speaker 1: in general. I don't know. Yeah, don't feel pressure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't feel pressured to speak about the political landscape right

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Speaker 1: now because I'm just talking about me and my own insecurities. Okay,

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Speaker 1: got it that. Well, you know, the personal is political,

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Speaker 1: and in many ways, what's going on in politics is

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Speaker 1: directly influencing the fact that I personally feel in secure

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Speaker 1: about being funny. We just don't say anything. We just

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Speaker 1: end the past. I actually I said I had one

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Speaker 1: thing to drag you up, but I I actually have to, Well, no,

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Speaker 1: one thing is a question. I want you to give

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Speaker 1: me a full kind of journey or actually, no, what

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Speaker 1: I'm getting at is your electric pink headphones? Yes, now

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Speaker 1: tell me this story there. There is actually an extremely

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Speaker 1: simple story here, George, which is that I got a

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Speaker 1: get the pink ones for free. No I chose pink. Wow, George,

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Speaker 1: is this are you limiting? Yes? I'm actually and and

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Speaker 1: a millennial pink Would you say that's accurate? Um? I

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Speaker 1: think that that is such a generous reading of me.

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Speaker 1: And it does mean that the deception that I've been

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Speaker 1: me through how quarantine has been for you. As someone

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Speaker 1: not my specific roommates, just like the genre of straight people.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so so how many if you don't mind

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Speaker 1: In fact, I am I'm the Yes, I am the

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they make too much food and I get to

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Speaker 1: there's no glass, just doves. That's good. That's beautiful. That's beautiful.

422
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I love to numerically well, yeah, I mean,

423
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: if there's one thing white gay men are good at,

424
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: it's rating people numerically. Numerically of course, of course, but

425
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: not knowing math and refusing to learn yeah without the other. Yeah, yeah,

426
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: no exactly. Has a gay man ever learned anything? That

427
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: is the question, isn't it. Yeah? Well, gay men have

428
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: always done things like management training programs and things like that.

429
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: And I feel like you can learn things there. I

430
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: feel like we all start as babies, and a baby

431
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: inherently learned some million things a day. Yeah. So you

432
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: learned like a base like, yeah, well, do gay men

433
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: have object permanence? I don't know. That's a good question, actually,

434
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: but I do think the way white gay men are

435
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: created is that babies attend to management training program. Yeah.

436
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean I definitely haven't learned anything since I've come out. No, no, yeah, yeah,

437
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: that's as important to wait as long as possible. Yeah,

438
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: which is why I you know, I'll be nineteen is

439
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: forever somewhere between nineteen and now, just as a teen boy?

440
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: How do you respond? Um, that's too bad. That's a

441
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: hot age to be because you know, if I have

442
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: to stop when I came out and if we're going

443
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: to go by like the first time, I have to

444
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: stop at like thirteen, which is not fun because you

445
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: can't like have sacks or like really like do drugs

446
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: or anything that fun. Like you can do it, but

447
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: it's not it's frowned upon. Yeah, it's not as chill.

448
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: It's not chill like this podcast up totally. I know

449
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: you have to be at least fourteen to do drugs.

450
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: People have questions about it. They're like, are you sure right?

451
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: So you came out when you were thirteen? Pretty much

452
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: you really are that's like a gay. Yeah, I'm I'm

453
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: classically an old, old, old queer person, which is why

454
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm so annoyed at the time. Yeah, I mean they're

455
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: really like this stuff is not like new and fun

456
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: to me anymore. Nothing. I'm tired. I'm tired. I mean,

457
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: I think that's also probably why we feel a little

458
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: bit of the relief of um traditional Pride not existing

459
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: right now. Absolutely. I usually get so mad during Pride season,

460
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: Like I spend the entire month of June just tense

461
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: in a rage. I haven't been I sorry, I not.

462
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: I haven't been to like a I don't want to

463
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: say traditional because that's wrong, but I haven't been to

464
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: like an official sanctioned Pride event in many years. Oh no, no,

465
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: me neither. So now to me, it's just a thing

466
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: that blocks the street. Yeah yeah, I can't get over there,

467
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: and it's a thing. Well, and this is personal. My

468
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: birthday is always on Pride weekend, and so it's like

469
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: a thing that's always in the way of my birthday.

470
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: Like last year, my birthday was on Pride and I

471
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: was like, I just want to like go to the

472
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: beach and have my friends come. But everyone's gonna be like, oh,

473
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: so you just think you own problems like and I'm like, no,

474
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: it's just my birthday and I'm just trying to have

475
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: a blast. Like I mean, the biggest gift you can

476
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: give to people is to give them counter programming for

477
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: the for Pride, because that's what everyone wants, like all

478
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: people want. Obviously, I'm not going to just like stay

479
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: at home seething, like I want to do something if

480
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: it's the official day of Pride, that's true. I do

481
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: like Pride as a day where it's like, go do something, like,

482
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: go have fun. One time, my parents were at Amsterdam Pride,

483
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: just like coincidentally they happened to be there and Pride

484
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: was going on, and the one thing that really scandalized

485
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: my mom was that someone was peeing in the river.

486
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: That's the best place to pee. I know, moves, it

487
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: moves away. It's gone, Like by the time you're mad

488
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: about it, it's already gone. Yeah, I do think. Yeah,

489
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: maybe just the fact that it was like a full

490
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean everyone was out. There was like a full parade.

491
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: There were like boats and so when you imagine then

492
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: someone kind of like pulling out his giant cock and

493
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: peeing in in that environment, then maybe I could see

494
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: that being offensive to a mom. Sure, via someone's giant cock. Yeah,

495
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: that's right. If you're a mom and you don't like cock,

496
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: get out of here. What the hell are you doing here? Right?

497
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 1: How are you to become a mom? And how did

498
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: you find our podcast? Stop? Literally? Our podcast is from

499
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: moms who love cock. Like, if you're a mom and

500
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: you're listening to pod, like, go check on your children, Like, yes,

501
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: stop talking about cock all the time, and go check

502
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: on your kids. You have literally six kids and they're

503
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: all six tuplets, and you have options. Now you're trapped

504
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: at home with them. You need to go check on them.

505
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: This is not your night out, Jess, Where do you

506
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: stand on children? Written? Where do I stand on children? Um?

507
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: I think they're Um. I give them like a six

508
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: point five you know what. That's exactly what I would

509
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: give them. Yeah, I mean more than half. Yeah, that

510
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: that's like how I feel. I feel like marginally positive

511
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: about them. Totally. I'm like, don't get rid of them, Like,

512
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: if they're there, don't get rid of them. But I

513
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: don't see why, like I don't need more. Yeah, I'm

514
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: trying to think of a good met a good metaphor

515
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: for like, it's like when there's like a selection of

516
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: salsas for chips, and there's always one where it's like, yeah,

517
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: I'll dip, I'll dip into that one, like twice. I'm

518
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: not mad it's there, but like it is not a

519
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: main one. It's not Salts of Verity, and it's not Chipotle. No.

520
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking of what you said earlier about how

521
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: you had gotten upon me and you had to get

522
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: a bubble tea to make it over the limit. It's

523
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: sort of like, yeah, I'm like if if, if, if

524
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: you have to, fine, I'm not going to have kids.

525
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I'm not going to have kids. Yeah,

526
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: I would be really surprised if a child ever came

527
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: into my life. I mean, and if it did, I

528
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: would say, go off, queen, but I would be shocked

529
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: to see it in my life. That's and that's exactly

530
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: how I felt by my bubble tea. But you know what,

531
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: I did finish it. You're right, so maybe I shouldn't

532
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: go there yet. Who knows where this did? I mean, ultimately, listen,

533
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: there's no around this. I did get a stomach ache

534
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: because of the dairy. Um, George, I'm getting from this

535
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: that you just your whole life is getting different treats. Well,

536
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: you know what I have to say in these in

537
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: this in this climate, you know, Okay, this is interesting.

538
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: I feel like because because we went so long, I mean,

539
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: things are now slowly reopening, but because we went so

540
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: long without little treats. The past couple of weeks, I

541
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: got like one iced coffee, one boba tea, like two

542
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: times I got ice cream, and there was like one

543
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: other thing. And I truly remember every second of each

544
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: one of those experiences in a way that normally that

545
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: would be just like, oh, something I did, like on

546
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: my way back from you know, uh, your grocery shopping

547
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: or an event or something. But now I like, I

548
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: remember so well the process of waiting in line from

549
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: my mango Storebet I'm leaning deep into hedonism in this life.

550
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: But I'm not going outside. So what that means is

551
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: that I have bought my own Boba pearls, and I

552
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: am making my own in my house. I didn't know

553
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: that was an option, it is it is. So that

554
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: is how I am keeping myself together during this time. Wait,

555
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: you're not going outside basically, No, I'm no. I I

556
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: saw friends for the first time last week, for the

557
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: first time this whole time, um, which was for Tessa

558
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: Scare's birthday in the park. Um. And I've and seeing

559
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: my girlfriend every like two or three weeks or so. Wow.

560
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: But that's it. And I go grocery shopping. And I

561
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: go grocery shopping also every two or three weeks. Otherwise

562
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't leave my house. Huh, whoa. And you're nocturnal

563
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: and I'm nocturnal. I said that thing about gay people

564
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't be out in the sun. Maybe I'm just trying

565
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: to justify my own lifestyle. Right now, you're walking the

566
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: walk unlike mixed Emma, our listener, I'm living in deep fear.

567
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing. Are you. Are you someone who

568
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: identifies as like um, like a hypochondriac or like superstitious,

569
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: Like are you someone who is affected more than other

570
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: people by something like a global pandemic? Actually no, it's

571
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: that I know that if I let myself be loose,

572
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: I will go so loose. So it's that I have to, like,

573
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: I have to keep this hold on myself. Otherwise it's

574
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: all just like fingers in my eyes and in my mouth,

575
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: like out on the train, out in public, like licking

576
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: like chips seasoning off of my hands. So I just

577
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: have to be like this otherwise like I'm going to go. Also,

578
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: the other thing, and this is real, for real, is

579
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: that I still get to fuck every two or three

580
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: weeks right now, and that is very precious to me,

581
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: and I don't want to risk that and that that

582
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: will be the first thing to go. Has there been

583
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: talk of quarantining to give No, I'm classically in a

584
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: non non monogue relish. So that's the other thing is

585
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: that I have to protect the integrity not only of

586
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: me and my partner, but of her other partner too.

587
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: Otherwise it's relation in the but there are multiple consistent partners. Yes, yes, interesting,

588
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: so I have to have to be responsible. I see

589
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: does your girlfriend? See? Does your your girlfriend doesn't live

590
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: with her other partners? Does she know? So we're sort

591
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: of like a three rotating pod. Okay, the idea of

592
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 1: pods is very interesting to me. I was just I'm

593
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: not gonna out them. But people we know I recently

594
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: found out are all in the same pot, and it's

595
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: something I'm interested in. People have been doing that like

596
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: I thought that I felt like a very l a

597
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: thing to do, but now people are doing it in

598
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: New York. It's like Macha, yeah, I'm my I'm potting

599
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: right now with my parents. Um, and it is you know, yes,

600
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: how is that sam? Because you go you go something.

601
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Another thing that I had brainstormed about earlier for this

602
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: was a family talking about family as straight and that

603
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: my edge into that was specifically that gay people can't

604
00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: quarantine with their family. You know. Yeah, we're really pushing

605
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: the edge. Um it is. Um. For example, podcasting in

606
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: sort of this room right now, I'm a little bit like, well,

607
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: what do I want to say that I'll have to

608
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: potentially explain at dinner? In a bit or like like

609
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: it's a little like wait, why would you have to

610
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: explain it at dinner? Because what if they're what do

611
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: they hear it? And then it's like okay, well what

612
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: were you What was that about? Are you not in

613
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: a soundproof room for specifically made for podcasting in your

614
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: parents house? No, they didn't have time to install it.

615
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't notice your nice little attic

616
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: shaped room and you're be happy sign behind you, and

617
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: I had not I had not questioned that maybe you

618
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: were uh with family. I just was like, wow, I've

619
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: learned something about Sam today. Yeah. I just love to

620
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: keep a positive attitude. You are in a place where

621
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: you're like people in your house might be able to

622
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. Yes. Wow, that adds such a

623
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: level of psycho sexual games to this whole thing sort

624
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: of tension states and speaking of pride. It's a little like, Okay,

625
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm back in the closet and a bit like I

626
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: need to, you know, work on maybe being a little

627
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: more okay whatever I got. Um. I woke up again

628
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: at three pm today um to a text from my

629
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: aunt that said Supreme Court decision yea, And I was

630
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: like told her about me. I really was like how

631
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: did she think to text me? And then I and

632
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: then as I like realized it was like a like

633
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: overarching lgbt Q like ruling, because at first I thought

634
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: it was like specifically a trans thing, like because of

635
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: whatever the health care thing I don't want to talk

636
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: about that went down. So she was just kind of like,

637
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: Jess is gay, yeah, justice something, And I was like,

638
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: that's that's fine. Obviously that's true. Obviously that's true. Yeah, sure,

639
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's true for most people. Most people are gay. Yeah, um,

640
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: so speaking your pride, you so you aren't out to

641
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: this aunt of yours? Are getting serious? We are we

642
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: are a little God, we're being normal for a second.

643
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: Is that what you're I feel like I have to

644
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: apologize to you guys for like fucking up your vibe.

645
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are not. We just we literally

646
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: decided before this, we were like, it feels so weird

647
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: to be to act like a like complete fucking morons,

648
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: but we don't want to change the things we say.

649
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: Is we were like, why not just change our tone

650
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: but then still be just as stupid as we were before.

651
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: But it's hard. It's time to be like super fucking

652
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: dumb all the time and like have fun with that.

653
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well maybe not all the time. Yeah.

654
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: I think the solution is to still be dumb, but

655
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: take all the joy out of it. I think that's worse. Well. Yeah,

656
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: I selfishly and narcissistic Lee like to think that I

657
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: tend to draw out these vulnerabilities from people too, because

658
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm very I'm extremely serious, and I'm like really only

659
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: interested in learning about people's trauma. But at the same time,

660
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: you're such a comic. Like I think of you as

661
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: such a a real stand up thank you. I don't

662
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: think of you as someone who's like getting on stage

663
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: and is like basically like saying serious things until people

664
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: get uncomfortable, and then that's the joke. Thank you. I

665
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: do try to tell a joke. I try my hardest,

666
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: but then I always feel like, because um, I like,

667
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: I think of myself as a very like comic key

668
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: comic two. But then I also think that I step

669
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: off the stage and I'm like not funny anymore, and

670
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, like, let's talk about what you just

671
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: said and how you let's talk about the space you're

672
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: taking up now. See, I'm sort of the I see

673
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: what you what you do, and I sort of do

674
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: the opposite. I I go up on that stage, boring, boring, boring, boring,

675
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: I get off the stage. Hilarious. Everyone's laughing, we're fist bumping.

676
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: It's incredible. And Sam, that's why you have friends and

677
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: I don't. Yes, damn, that's why you're potting with your

678
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: family and two girlfriends. Exactly. No, I have one girlfriend

679
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: and she has another girlfriend. You're right, right, right, I

680
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: don't even have two girlfriends. Although I will say I

681
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: am doing a lot of well, I go in and

682
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: out of doing a lot of sexting and quarantine with

683
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: a lot of different people, but that's all been doing that.

684
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to people we know that you would

685
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: not expect are sexting each other. I'm texting a few

686
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: people that we know that you must not expect. I

687
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: think I am the only person not sexting any of

688
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: our friends in our community. During quarantine, I started glad,

689
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: maybe you need to make yourself seem more vulnerable and

690
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: available on Maine. George, I think you are. I've never

691
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: seen your sex selfies, but I do think you have

692
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: such a skill with selfie taking I've seen on Twitter.

693
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: I would say, I've seen sex. Are you my close friends?

694
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: I'll get you on my close friends. I don't think

695
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: I am. The real divide in the white gay community

696
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: is who is on Jesse's close friends and who is not?

697
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, I want to say, specifically, George, that I

698
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: saw I can't remember who somebody tweet about getting added

699
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: to your close friends and feeling so happy about that,

700
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: and since then have held that in my mind as

701
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: a goal post. Wait are you not on mine? I

702
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen one of yours. Well, I

703
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: very rarely post them, but I it would be insane

704
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: to me if you were not on it. I literally

705
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: took out my phone like fun podcast activity add just

706
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: to close friends. I hope for you. No, no, no, no, no,

707
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: it would be insane, insane if you weren't if you

708
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: weren't online. I think that my um my nudes game

709
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: has drastically improved in Quarantine. Yes, I think you are

710
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: one of the people who has managed to um become

711
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: more erotic but not more embarrassing. Yeah. That's a really

712
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: tough line too. Can you even think of anyone else? Yeah,

713
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's really difficult. Well, I really want um,

714
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: I really want to still be available to work on

715
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: primetime family oriented TV. Well, you want to be on

716
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: a pride campaign? Yes, yes, And you have to like

717
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: be able to maintain a certain family friendliness while also

718
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: building a fan base entirely off of just your most disgusting,

719
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: perverted thoughts. So it's it's a fine line to walk.

720
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: But that's why I can't do like I actually have always,

721
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: like from youth, wanted to get into pornography, but I

722
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: cannot do that because my ambitions to be mainstream famous

723
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: are bigger than my ambitions to film myself having sex. Yeah,

724
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: I feel honestly similarly where it's like that would be fun,

725
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: like what is great? That's like kind of the best

726
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: of all worlds like, but then it's like, but I

727
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: also do want to be able to do the normal

728
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: thing and not have people be like and it used

729
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: to be this, right? Are we not pass that? Am

730
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: I crazy? I really don't think we mind. I don't

731
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: we are not. I'm not doing porn because I myself

732
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: am like I am like more prudish. It has nothing

733
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: to do with like society and we accept that about you.

734
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: We love that about you, and there's a place for

735
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: you to Yes, I mean Pride is the place for

736
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: gay people who are prudish. Yes, that is what that

737
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: is how it's panning out. I Uh. My friend he

738
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: On Park, who writes on Shrill, made a really good point,

739
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: which was that um Disney apparently owns like fifty of Hollywood.

740
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: So if you get blacklisted by Disney, that's basically it.

741
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: You're basically out. And maybe that's why I am unsuccessful

742
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: because I've been blacklisted by Disney and I don't I

743
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: didn't even know it. That is it, That's absolutely it.

744
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: It's because you haven't been specifying which river you're riding

745
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: down world. They're like, wow, you think we only have

746
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: one river? Actually every river is different. Pocahona set it herself,

747
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: but um um, I wasn't taking it seriously until I

748
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: learned literally within quarantine that like Miley Cyrus got fired

749
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: from Hotel Transylvania because she posted a picture of herself

750
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: at her own birthday posing with a dick shaped cake,

751
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: and she got fired from Hotel Transylvania. Okay, well, first

752
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: of all, this episode can never be released and that's

753
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: not anything. You know, that's nothing. Oh I also saw something.

754
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: For some reason, people have been talking about Miley Cyrus

755
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: and sex censorship, which is insane because I don't care

756
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: about those words together, but they are teaching me. Um.

757
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: She also, after like the music video for Can't Be

758
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: Tamed came out, Radio Disney wiped her entirely from their catalog.

759
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: They wiped her from all of the like the promos

760
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: in between this is Radio Disney and I'm Miley Cyrus.

761
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: They cut her out of it um because they didn't

762
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: know how to handle it, and that was how they

763
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: were sponded by just wiping her clean. And those are

764
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: not that's not porn, that's nothing. That's a music video

765
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: and a dick shaped cake on Instagram. And when I

766
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: saw that, I was like, oh, I can't. I cannot

767
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: do this. I'm not Miley Cyrus. I do not have

768
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: the generational cultural capital of Miley Cyrus. No you do.

769
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean if Miley keeps going the way

770
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: she's going, she's gonna be blacklisted so much that we'll

771
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: all have more cultural capital than her. I mean, it's

772
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: one thing after the other. I even feel that way,

773
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: like people are really are really cavalier about posting like

774
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: nudes and stuff, and I like don't, like I want

775
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: to be cavalier about it. But I also feel worried,

776
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: like I'm like, what what's going to happen? Um? Is

777
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: that crazy? It's not crazy? Sorry, No, I was just

778
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: going to admit that my titties and in on the

779
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: internet since like two eleven, ah, And I feel like

780
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: I set that precedent for myself, like almost knowingly at

781
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: that time, I was like, I'm going to do this

782
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: so that it's it continues to be okay for me

783
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: to do this for the rest of my life. But

784
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: now I'm kind of like, maybe I shouldn't have been

785
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: doing that. I mean, I don't you think. Here's the

786
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: thing with all like internet content. No matter how smart

787
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: or cool you think you are, inevitably, if you have

788
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: something like time Hop or Facebook on this day, when

789
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: you see something you posted a year ago, it always

790
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: looks dumb. It's humiliating, you know what it's like. So

791
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: because these and you don't even we don't even realize

792
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: how quickly like norms and in jokes on the internet change,

793
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: or like something you think is so fresh, well either

794
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: seemed really corny or really outdated, or even really offensive,

795
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean offensive, like racist, I mean like offensive sometimes

796
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: sometimes and that's actually extremely general. But everybody is racist

797
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: and everybody is capable of doing that, so it's actually

798
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: extremely general and refers to nothing. Oh here's what I

799
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: Here's what I mean by offensive is sometimes you might

800
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: be like referencing something that's happening in the news, so

801
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: you'll be like, I'm trying to think, okay, so literally,

802
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: like recently, there was like a controversy with the New

803
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: York Times opinion section, and I commented on that, and

804
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: the word bisexual was in what I said because there

805
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: was a certain person involved. Do not speak about bisexuals.

806
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: They hate it. They hate to be spoken about, but

807
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: they also hate to not be spoken about bisexuals. Bisexuals

808
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: are hearing this right now. Bisexuals, if you listen to this,

809
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: go check on your children. If you're a bisexual mom

810
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: who's obsessed with cock, go check on your kids. But

811
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: do you know what then, like someone will see someone's

812
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: sexual mom who's obsessed with cock. Please call me? Oh god,

813
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, please call Jess. If you're a bisexual mom.

814
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm alone. I'm alone in Queens. What if I tweeted

815
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: like bisexuals can't read because I was talking about someone specific,

816
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: and then two years later it's like, well that's offensive.

817
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,959
Speaker 1: Well maybe you should have been specific, then, George, maybe

818
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: you should have said exactly wish bisexual can't read. In

819
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: that case, that's actually able, is um, yeah, you're right,

820
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: And actually that's just counting the great inequities in our

821
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: educational system which are not go off with a systemic critique.

822
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: This is why you had me on. This is why

823
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: you had me on specifically so I could say that sentence. Okay, great, yeah,

824
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: it's true I gave you and in fact I emailed

825
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: that and I said, Jess at exactly one hour in

826
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: four minutes, you have to say you have to talk

827
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: about the educational system. Listen, someone needs to say it.

828
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: Someone has blue anyway, it is everything on the Internet

829
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: is embarrassing within two seconds of being posted, and doesn't

830
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: matter if it's nudes or a joke or whatever else.

831
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: So that's it's like, okay, so you're saying, like, having

832
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: like a sketch comedy video from two thousand thirteen is

833
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: as embarrassing as showing whole I'm it's it's not that

834
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: it's as embarrassing, it's that it will nothing ever ages

835
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: well in terms of digital first content, honey, especially not whole.

836
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: Oh I mean yeah, okay, well I'll be nastier than

837
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: I think I've learned my lesson. But then we're always

838
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: also like no, but I'm the exception. Yeah, I feel

839
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: like I've had like a friend who's like more successful,

840
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: who was like, oh I send nudes all the time.

841
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: It's not like huge deal. It's not a huge deal.

842
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: And then like cut to a few years later, they're

843
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: like popping off. They're successful, They're on a sitcom and

844
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,959
Speaker 1: they they're like, oh, it's like an awful time because

845
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: I have to work to get my nudes eras from

846
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: the internet. And I was like, mm hmmm, mm hmm, Wow,

847
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I've emotionally prepared myself for a leak,

848
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: Like this is what kind of narcissism I'm in right now,

849
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: is that I like believe with conviction that I will

850
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: be so successful that for years I have been already

851
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: emotionally preparing myself for the moment when, at the height

852
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: of my fame, my nudes get leaked. Because I'm like,

853
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: it'll happen to me. It happened to Jennifer Lawrence, it

854
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 1: will happen to me. Can you said I emotionally prepared

855
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: for a leak? I was like, I thought, okay, me

856
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: ordering boba. Um, Jess, I would love you to talk

857
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: us through your strategy for when that leak happens. Um, Well,

858
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: it's kind of easy for me, as a certain marginalized

859
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: body in the system. It's kind of easy for me

860
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: to spin it in a sort of like well as

861
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: as as a trans person, and as as a person

862
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: of color, it's actually very empowering for me to be

863
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: having sex and sharing it in this way. And if

864
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: that freaks you out, maybe that's a problem with you.

865
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: And also you should respect my privacy because that's the

866
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: way it is of cultural Marxism. Campus is coming to him.

867
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: We're all living in a college campus. Now, listen, I

868
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: can talk circles around everybody, like, I'll talk my way

869
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: out of this. I'll be able to do it. Wow.

870
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: Another way in which white gay men are more marginalized

871
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: is that Sam and I could never say that it's

872
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: radical for us to show our buddies. You know, there

873
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: was a time when I was like, no, it's brave

874
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: of me to post a speedo pick and I was like,

875
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: it's bad. I mean, I'm gonna do it. It's summer,

876
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: but it's bad. Will allow it? Thank you, thank you?

877
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Is it to for a final segment?

878
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: Did we cover pride? Yeah? Well, okay, Jess, you know what,

879
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: here's let's let's do one final thing. Imagine like every

880
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: like we're in a new normal that's better than the

881
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: old normal. What would like what is a future pride like?

882
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: What would like the ideal Pride look like in the future. Um,

883
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: I think that there should be a lot of different

884
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: activities that a lot of different people can relate to. Yes,

885
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: potato sack race for those who wish to sack potato race.

886
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: Bisexual Yes, yes, only those bisexuals who so choose to participate. Um,

887
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: and that does not invalidate them whether they choose to

888
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: or not. No, no, no, I'm absolutely getting canceled for this.

889
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: But which is funny because actually a lot of different

890
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: parts of the gay community try to cancel me for

891
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: standing up for bisexuals. Um. But that's okay. I can

892
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: go in both directions. Um No, like a place to

893
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: do drugs or a place to not I'm a absolute

894
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: fake bisexual as somebody who has joined Grinder in within

895
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: quarantine and then yeah, because I'm I'm talking, I'm coming

896
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: at you straight as someone who has deleted Grinder doing quarantine.

897
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: It to this is like San Francisco all over again.

898
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: One's one's leaving, the others joining. I. Yeah, I got

899
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: into it for a second. I might get into it again.

900
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I got into it. Had a couple

901
00:56:54,719 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: of like really like disgusting interactions. Um. Really hot and disgusting,

902
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: and then was like, Okay, that's enough, and I sort

903
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: of put it away and was this a potato sack

904
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: races for bisexuals? No grinder, no grinder? Probably, Uh, there's

905
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: a place to do drugs if you want to do drugs.

906
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: There's a place to not do drugs if you don't

907
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: want to do drugs. I think a drugs tent and

908
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: not drugs tent would be very fun effective. I think

909
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: it's totally great. Yeah, I would, I would. I think

910
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: I would do drugs tent um. What else? Definitely still

911
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: like funnel cake and like meat on a stick. Do

912
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy is that we are reinventing like

913
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: a straight like what's the word, not carnival, what's the word?

914
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking for? Fair? Fair? Fair? Like we're literally we're like,

915
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: what would pride be if we were all liberated? Potato

916
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: sack races, funnel cake, a no drug tent? We would

917
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 1: weigh a pig? Yeah? Really just like a small town fair.

918
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: I love a fair. I mean an inclusive small town fair.

919
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: I guess that's the most radical possible thing you can

920
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: think of. If you went to bride and you were

921
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: like drunk, or on drugs, and you're with your queer

922
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: squad and you're like walking through the tent with all

923
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: the like pigs and horses that like the four h

924
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: Club brought like that sounds actually much better. I love that.

925
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: I love animals. Um, I I love being around animals.

926
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: I love to hold a lamb. Um. That I think

927
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: is a very queer activity. To create a lamb in

928
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: your arm cret Cradling a lamb is one of the

929
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: most queer things one can do. It almost deserves its

930
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: own letter. Yeah in the Yeah, that's what the L

931
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: stands for a lamb? Is it time? Is that the

932
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: that's our that's our discussion. I think that's our discussion

933
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: on pride. Is that crazy? Am I rushing it? You're

934
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: literally not? No, we've been recording for five hours. Yeah,

935
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: this is a six hour podcast. We were recording five

936
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: one ago. It's the marathon. The director's cut. Um, okay,

937
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: do you have a shout out? Um? You know I

938
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: actually do. Oh great, we'll go for it. Oh, we

939
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: should explain to just what our final segment is. Right,

940
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: Our final segment is called shoutouts. We give a shout

941
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: out to anything that we like. Uh, and sort of.

942
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: The tone is You've got to imagine you're in Times Square,

943
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: it's two thousand two and you're at t r L

944
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: sort of the cameras on you, and you're shouting out

945
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: to your your high school squad. Um, okay, I will begin.

946
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: What's up, listeners, Um, I just want to give a

947
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: quick shout out to the lady that works at the

948
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: hot dog cart in my parents town. This woman was

949
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: having a conversation with another person, and that person asked

950
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: this woman, do you guys have a competition with the

951
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: other hot dog cart in town? And this woman said, no,

952
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: there's no competition. Plus, they only make one style of

953
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: hot dogs. We make twenty eight. And I was like, well,

954
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: that actually sounds like you maybe do have competition if

955
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: you're so defensive about it. If you don't know yourself,

956
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: you need to learn about yourself. You work the hot

957
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: dog cart in town, have some pride. That's the theme.

958
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: It's pride. It's June. You're making hot dogs for small

959
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: town Blake people. Thank you and goodnight x O x

960
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: o Sam WHOA Wow, small town Lake people. It's the

961
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: title of your memoir. Okay, all right, I think I

962
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: think I can I think I can wing one, all right, Okay,

963
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: here I go, Hey, listeners, I just want to give

964
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: a quick shout out to the concept of impersonal gifts.

965
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: I feel like we've kind of moved away from people

966
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: being things like candles or gift cards, but actually would

967
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: really love boat one of each right now. I I'm

968
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: buying my own candles now that we're quarantining, and they're

969
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: actually a lot more expensive than I thought, and I

970
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: would really love for someone to kind of bring me

971
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: them as a gift. And as far as gift cards go,

972
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I have very kind of complicated

973
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: body image issues and a fluctuating weight, and I really

974
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: do not want someone to guess my side, bring me close,

975
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: have them not fit me and or not be my taste,

976
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: me having to return to me deciding that I'm actually

977
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: not going to return them because I propressed it on

978
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: things like that. Why not just give me a gift

979
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: card and let me decide for myself like an adult

980
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: while smelling my gorgeous eucalyptus candle that you also brought

981
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: me to my party. Thank you? Okay, um, what's up, guys.

982
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to Ludovic,

983
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: the cat that I live with, who is not my cat,

984
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: and not even really my roommate's cat either, but the

985
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: cat of a former roommate who lived here, who went

986
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: to medical school elsewhere and then never came back for him.

987
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: I do think he's dealing with abandonment issues, which now

988
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: I have come face to face with now that we're together.

989
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: He did throw up not only on the carpet in

990
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: my room, but also the bag of clothes that I

991
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: put aside to donate right on it. Yes, his range,

992
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: he's amazing. Um. And I have left the vomit there

993
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: on those clothes because selfishly, I was like, I've already

994
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: relinquished these clothes from my belonging and I will not

995
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: donate them with the vomit on them. But I don't

996
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: take responsibility for it right now. Um, thanks Ludovic. Uh,

997
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: it is too bad that you don't love me, which

998
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 1: I have learned during this time together, because I thought

999
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: it would be really comforting to have an animal around,

1000
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: and it turns out it's actually kind of stressful. Um,

1001
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: that's me. I'm just all right. Wow, that took a

1002
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: That was a good range. There was a good range.

1003
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: There a lot of animal a lot of animal imagery today.

1004
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: I think love animals. Animals do love animals. I let

1005
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: me say really quickly that I was reading, um funk.

1006
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of this book. It's called

1007
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: like in in Our Secret Gardens or something that my

1008
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: girlfriend habits, a book from the seventies that is like

1009
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: women's fantasies that they contributed, and very very very many

1010
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: of them are about having sex with animals. Well, first

1011
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: of all, let me just say that In Our Secret

1012
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: Gardens is the name of every lesbian book is true

1013
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: about for lesbians, by lesbians, for lesbians. I'd be like

1014
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: in Our Secret Gardens. Next question, um, it was the

1015
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: animal is the twist? I will give you that. I

1016
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: thought that that was a guy thing. Yeah, I know, definitely.

1017
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: But you know what though, that's why it's queer. It

1018
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: is and there are possibilities for all of us. No,

1019
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: there are no women who fuck animals represented in media.

1020
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: It's always men. Remember that that's true. They should remake EQUI. Okay,

1021
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: here's my here's my my, my new project of female

1022
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: reboot of Equus is that how do you say it?

1023
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: It's the play with Daniel Radcliffe equisqui equis Yeah, why

1024
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: did you say it so weird? I don't know. Okay,

1025
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: So it should be um starring uh uh Florence Pew obviously, obviously,

1026
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: and she should fuck a female horse absolutely. Okay. See

1027
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: that that's so soft and tender. Yeah, once you were,

1028
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: once you remove the aggressive fallus. Yeah yeah, I mean George,

1029
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: with ideas like that, it's crazy you don't already run Hollywood.

1030
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: Well that idea is what got me banned from Disney. Wow.

1031
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: Well that's the end of our pod. Um. I said

1032
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: this rifted George at the beginning, and now I'm going

1033
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: to say it to you, Jess. I've heard of thank

1034
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: you next, but thank you Jess for being on the pod. Wow,

1035
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: it was that was even better the second time around. Yeah.

1036
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: All I can think is thank goodness. I understand that

1037
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: pop cultural reference we picked. We know that you're a

1038
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: big arian arian nader, so that's why we picked that

1039
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: one for you. Um, but for real, thank you for

1040
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: being here. Talk to you guys soon.