1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to week eight of jet Stream. I'm 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: your host, Jennay Kochio Longside, like I am every week, 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: my favorite guy, the Great Marty A Lions and Marty. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Despite the Jets record, we have a really fun show 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: this week. As always, we have questions from the fans 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: and I love a couple of these questions. They're awesome, 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: and coming up later in the show, we have another 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: jet legend joining us. I mean, think about it, Marty. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: We've had some pretty good guests. I mean we're pretty 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: much hitting all of the Ring of honor. So this week, 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: this guest this week so much fun. But before we 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: talk about the game, Marty, what celebrity did you want 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: into this week? 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: You know who I ran into Method Man. He's one 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: of my favorites. He did the thirty for thirty on 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: the Sack Exchange. I've known him for a long time 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: and it's amazing how many fans he has out there. 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: And I run across people that say, hey, you know 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: method Man, and I will send Method Man a text? 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: Can you say hi to Katie? And he'll send a video. 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: He's he's really in tune and he touches the community 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: and he's just it's such a great gentleman, big Jet fan, 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: and he's always on the sideline, so it's always great 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: to see him. 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: How cool was it that he did he was he 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: voiced the thirty for thirty that special on the sound. 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I thought, he did an excellent 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: job and you know, pay tribute at the end of 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: it to Abdul and rest in peace. You know, only 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: he could do a voice over like that, and I 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: just thought he did a great job. And you know, 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 2: he's been a friend of mine for a long time, 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: and it's always great to see people. 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: On the sideline. 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: You know. The one thing that I noticed about a 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: team that was oh and six going into the game, 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: the fans haven't given up. Yeah, you know, I'm very fortunate. 38 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: I go around and I go to two suites the 39 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: first quarter, two to second two and the third and 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: all these people are still engaged and they just want 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: to see the Jets play better. They just want to 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: see the Jets win a game. But there's not a 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: lot of people that are going, Wow, same old Jets. 44 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: They're not doing that. They're not playing that song again. 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: So it's encouraging, and I think the Jet players need 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: to know that, you know, their fans haven't given up on. 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Them, and Marty for you. How as a former player, 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: as someone who's been part of this organization for almost 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: fifty years, and so many different aspects, like how hard 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: it is to change a culture, I mean, and to 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: make it a winning culture. 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Well, it is very hard when you don't win, you know, 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: very hard for those guys in the locker room to 54 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: buy into a new culture and not see any result. 55 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: How do you teach winning? 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: Teach winning by winning? 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: How do you do that? 58 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: You go out there and you execute and you play 59 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: complimentary football. I mean, look at a guy like Quinn Williams. 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: You know they didn't win this past weekend against the Panthers, 61 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: but he had eight tackles. When's the last time a 62 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: defensive lineman had eight tackles? And all that stuff goes 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: unnoticed because at the end of the game, what matters 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: is the W or the L. But I think Quinnon 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: had a great game. I think it's time now for 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: the g just to regroup. I look for Tyrod Taylor 67 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: to start this week. I think that hit that you know, 68 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: Justin Fields took, which was unnecessary roughness by Nick Scott 69 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: years ago. If that had happened to one of our quarterbacks, 70 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: I think we'd still be out there fighting. 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: You know, I don't think that they tried. Tried well, 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: you know, you. 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: Want to try to fight, you can fight, But I 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: think it's just I just don't think Justin Fields is 75 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: healthy for some reason. I think whether it's the prior 76 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: concussion that he had or his legs, and I think, 77 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: you know, I've been a big fan of his ever 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: since he came out of Ohio State. I love them, 79 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: love the way that he played at the Ohio State 80 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: and then he gets drafted by Chicago, he goes to Pittsburgh. 81 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: Now he's with the Jets. I'm really a big fan. 82 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: But I think he needs to step back and get 83 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: healthy and watch the game this week, and then you 84 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: have a bye week and then you can come back 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: and get ready to play against Cleveland. 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's good for someone just to step back 87 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: and just watch him. Look at Bryce Young, the Carolina quarterback. 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to step back today, especially when when 89 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: you have that pride that you're the starting quarterback. You 90 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: will even if Tyrod starts this week, Justin Fields is 91 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: still the starting quarterback. There's not going to be a 92 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: quarterback controversy unless you know, you throw Tyrod in there 93 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: and he throws for three hundred and fifty yards. 94 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: But I think that what they Jests have to do 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: is they got to get back to debate. You have 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: a runner. 97 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: I know Brice Hall got nicked up a little bit, 98 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: but he's got to have more and then thirteen carries. 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: You know they rush for you know this past week 100 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: and a Oni ran the ball twenty times for eighty 101 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: one yards. Breith Hall should be touching the ball twenty times. 102 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: Now. I'm going into this week against Cincinnati. They got 103 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco. 104 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: You script your first twenty plays, I'm scripting the first 105 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: five we are going to run. If they got eight 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: in the box, here's the audible that we are going 107 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: to go to and have these guys ready to go. 108 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: Maybe even come out in a hurry up offense, something 109 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: that the defense for Cincinnati hasn't seen, something that Jets 110 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: happened tone, But change up the rhythm a little bit. 111 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: The other thing I'd like to see is I'd like 112 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: to see them roll the pocket a little bit, get 113 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: the quarterback out, get Tyrd out on the edge where 114 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: you can do those RPOs He can look down, he 115 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: can look at the field, he can read the entire field. 116 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: It's kind of hard when you get in that pocket 117 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: and the pocket starts to lops back on you. It's 118 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: hard for you to peek around and try to find 119 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: that throwing lane. But get them outside happy the defense 120 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 2: back to back game. See, you know you've only given 121 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: up thirteen points in each of the last two games, 122 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: so the defense is starting to gel. Now you need 123 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: the offense. It's never too late. You're zero to seven, 124 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: go out and have a little bit more fun. 125 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, let's think it. Let's talk about 126 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: some of the positives you saw. What do you see 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: from the defense. What do you like about how theway's 128 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: defense is, Like you said, Jellen and coming together. 129 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: I like the attitude that they're playing with. 130 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: You know again, quinnin Williams, I think if you get 131 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: Quincy back, I think this is Quincy's defense. The way 132 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: that he plays the game, the passion that he has, 133 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: the emotion that he shows, that's very contagious. We saw 134 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: it last week when Jermaine Johnson came back. Those two 135 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: guys play with a high level of enthusiasm, high level 136 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: of emotion, and that in itself is contagious. But if 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner is not going to go this week, you 138 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: look over in Cincinnati. They're loaded with the wide receiver, 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: Lamar Chase, and then you got Higgins. They're loaded, and 140 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: all they're gonna do is tell Joe Fleckel, Hey, you 141 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: know what, stand back there, get rid of the ball quick. 142 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to push that pocket back. 143 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: You talk about those guys like the Jermaine Johnson's and 144 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: the Quincy and those guys. Who's that guy for you? 145 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: Guys on your team? Who are those guys on your team? 146 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: When I played, when I came into the league, it 147 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: was Greg Buddle and Greg Greg was always that emotional 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: leader in the locker room. Then it went to Cleck 149 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: and then somehow, you don't know where, you don't know when, 150 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: but the torch got passed to me and I carried 151 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: it for as long. 152 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: As I could. 153 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 2: But the game was so much different back then. Jenney, 154 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: if you were a rookie when you came in, you 155 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: didn't say anything. Now the rookies you come man, you 156 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: have a voice. Don't worry about what the veterans think 157 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: of you, you know, beside Nick Folk, who's the next 158 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: guy in line. And you can take Tyrod Taylor, he's 159 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: been in the league seventeen plus years. But then it 160 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: drops all the way down to quinnn Williams in his 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: seventh year. So this is a young team and right 162 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: now for a lot of these young players that are 163 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: in the league, now you'd be hitting the wall. 164 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: You're hitting that NFL wall because you got seven plus 165 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: the three preseason games plus all the OTAs. Now you 166 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: would be at the end of your college schedule. 167 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: So they're going to be hitting the wall. I think 168 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: the bye week is coming at a perfect time. Yeah, 169 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: you'll have nine games left. You can go back self, scout, self, evaluate, 170 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: be critical of yourself, be honest with yourself, be honest 171 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: with your teammates, and then go out and play these 172 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: last nine games. But you know, for the fans to 173 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: be calling for people, the fans just need to take 174 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: a deep breath and say, hey, you know what, we're 175 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: changing the culture. But give them a chance. 176 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: Give them patients, And I know they hate being that 177 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: patient till I've been seven ways. But let me ask. 178 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the AFC East because the Patriots are 179 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: on top of the bills. Are you surprised by that? 180 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: No, not at all. I think like Babel has done 181 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: a great job up there. They're playing very physical football. 182 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: That's what you got to do to win in the NFL. 183 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: You look at the Sunday Night game when you had 184 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: the Falcons playing the forty nine ers. Forty nine ers 185 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: turned the page. 186 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: Back to the eighties. 187 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: They ran the ball. They'd kill those big guys up front. Hey, 188 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do. We are going to 189 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: run the ball, open some holes. That's what the Jets 190 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: have to do. These guys would rather run block. The 191 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: offensive lineman, would rather run block than pass. 192 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Flock joining us now is one of the most beloved 193 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: players in Jet's history. Marty a fan favorite, an underdog 194 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: turned legend, finish his career top three receptions, receiving yards, 195 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: and touchdowns. Marty, you know who I'm talking about, The one, 196 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: the only, the Great, Wayne Crabado. Thanks for joining us, Wayne, Great? 197 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: Hi you guys doing so far? 198 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 3: Good? Wayne? 199 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: How you doing good? What I missed so far since 200 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 4: you've been on No. 201 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: Not much, Wayne, We're just talking about how the team 202 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: has to stay together. At Owen seven and the leaders 203 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: in the locker room. There's not a lot of veterans 204 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: you mean in older players, but a lot of these 205 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: players have been down this road before five and twelve, 206 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: last year, previous years. You as a veteran, how do 207 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: you how do you approach some of the younger. 208 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: Guys at this point? Listen, I won three and thirteen 209 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 5: and one to fifteen. Understand it, you know, And I 210 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 5: say this and anything I play, you could be pick 211 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 5: up basketball, pick a ball, whatever it is, or the kids. 212 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 5: The first one is always the hardest. Uh, and then 213 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 5: things kind of flow because losing its contagious and winning 214 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 5: its contagious. 215 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: And right now they don't know that feeling. Some guys have. 216 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 5: Some guys have it, but any vets in there at 217 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 5: this point have to step in front of the room. Uh, 218 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 5: you know, players only just explain, you know. I know 219 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 5: the record looks terrible, but we're not as bad as 220 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 5: we are, which I think, and just lock in. Let's 221 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 5: just go week by week, and it starts this week 222 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 5: with a winnable game. 223 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: And Marty, I know you kind of have a weird 224 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: connection to Wayne Well. 225 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: I covered Wayne in college when he was a wide 226 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: receiver at Hofston University and uh hit the last game 227 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: of his career. They were playing Delaware and Wayne had 228 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: six touchdown passes, tied to great Jerry Rice and his 229 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: his pair the best they were at every single game. 230 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: They showed support. 231 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: And I went up to his dad and mom and 232 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: I said, you need to get that kid an agent. 233 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: I said, he can play in the NFL. And then 234 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 2: he doesn't get dropped it. He goes as a free 235 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: agent over to the Jets. And I think Wayne, you 236 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: were probably down there around sixth or seventh on the 237 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: depth chart eleven. But Jenay, you know what, You've never 238 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: seen anybody work so hard out there. And then he 239 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: became a fan favorite because you know, the guy had 240 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: the heart, he had the passion, and he just made 241 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: plays and he did the dirty work. He asked Wayne 242 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: about going over the middle and getting hit back then 243 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: there was you know, they weren't throwing a flag. 244 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: But Wayne did the dirty work. 245 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: He picked up the first down, and as you said, 246 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: now he's a fan favorite. He's a member of the 247 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Ring of Honor. And what's that feel like, Wayne, to 248 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: know that you've accomplished so much and every day that 249 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: you and I both go to that stadium, you can 250 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: look up and see your. 251 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 5: Name well means everything, obviously, But to have a fellow 252 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 5: ring of honor guy, a fellow guy that you know 253 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: I watched play growing up. One of the hardest, working, nastiest, 254 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: you know, hate you, you know and keep you, you know, 255 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: the full effort guy like you were. The way you played, 256 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 5: you know, the way you uh that defense played back 257 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 5: then and even how you know, talking to Wesley and 258 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 5: Bruce Harpery yesterday, it was a little different back then. 259 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 5: You know, the way you could play. You can hit, 260 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 5: you could be hit. It's a little less of that now. 261 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, to be hearing that from my peers, and 262 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 5: you know, being there look up and see some of 263 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: the names that that was just extra. Making the team 264 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 5: and playing and being in New York JET my whole 265 00:13:54,640 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 5: career was awesome to play where I grew up. Like 266 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: I said, it, say story that kind of doesn't make sense. 267 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 5: You know, it's the middle of the night watching the movie. 268 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 5: The guy gets the girl scores it when he touchdown, 269 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 5: you know, got all this stuff and you're like, never happens. Well, 270 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 5: you know that's my story is that you know it happened, 271 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 5: and it's getting. 272 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: Better and better with the Ring of Honor, and. 273 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 5: I'm just so glad that I still had a chance 274 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: like Marty has. You know, twenty years after our retire 275 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: we're still involved with the organization. 276 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: And the fans still absolutely adore both of you guys. 277 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean you guys. Every time I hear Waite, Marty Waite, 278 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: Marty Wayne. Was there a moment that you felt like 279 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: that happened, that you're like, wow, that you you look 280 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: up like I can see why the Jets like, I'm 281 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: a Jet, I'm a Jet fan. Do you know what 282 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Was there a moment, a key moment that 283 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: you were truly embraced? 284 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: Wow, I don't know, just slowly moved down the depth chart, 285 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 5: and slowly more people realize that number three was a 286 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: receiver not a kicker back in ninety five. Yeah, and 287 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: then people started pronouncing my name right but listen it 288 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 5: just you know, right place, right time. You know, this 289 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 5: guy was hurt, he was dropping passes, he was out 290 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 5: of shape, he didn't know the playbook, and I went 291 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: from no plays the first preseason game to one series 292 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 5: to the third preseason game was at Giant Stadium and 293 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 5: I grew up going there and we had, let you know, 294 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 5: thirty forty people because this was gonna be the only 295 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 5: time I played at Giant Stadium. I'd be released. And 296 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: then it was co tight saying, shibet get in there, 297 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 5: and I was like, I was like shit, I like 298 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 5: that's close enough. So I just ran in there. And then, uh, 299 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 5: next week, coach I said, he said, listen, you know, 300 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: I'm starting preseason. I made the team and he's like, 301 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna start you down at Joe Robbie Open the 302 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 5: day and you know, Marino comes out and I'm like, 303 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 5: what am I doing here? You know? And then I 304 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: was like, you know what, I'm gonna be here and 305 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 5: make the best of it. And eleven years later, you know, 306 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 5: I uh, you know, I played, and like I said, 307 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 5: twenty years later, we're still talking about me, and I'm 308 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 5: what Marty Lyons and you and uh, like I said, 309 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 5: he just continues to go. 310 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: We're talking about Jenay and I were talking about, you know, 311 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor having the possibility of starting this week. 312 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: I think that he should start. 313 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: I think he should give justin another week, you know, 314 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: to to try to recover. Then you have a bye week, 315 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: but Justin will still be your starting quarterback. 316 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: But just. 317 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: Let him, let him watch the game from the sideline, 318 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: because nobody's health is is worth trying to win. 319 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 5: A game, right It's it's tough too for a young 320 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: kid with Justin, even though he's been in the league 321 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 5: while at some point if you take him out enough, 322 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 5: it's just he's gonna lose confidence. But say things don't 323 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 5: work out, We're drafting a quarterback, right you for first 324 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 5: the second pick, So it's I mean, do you try 325 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 5: to you know, what do you try to get out 326 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: of him? Or who's your best chance to win? Can 327 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 5: you do you worry about obviously Justin's help and giving 328 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 5: him a chance to go somewhere else and play healthy, 329 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 5: or do you risk you know, playing on a windless 330 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: team and him potentially getting hurt. I mean, what do 331 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 5: you do at that point if the season gets out 332 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 5: of control. The best chance for you to win is 333 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 5: probably Tyrod. Knowing you're going to young quarterbacks, so yeah, 334 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 5: let him heal go with Tyrodd. It gives you the 335 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 5: best chance right now. And like I said, just try 336 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 5: to get that first win, then reassess how Justin fields. 337 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: And when I have to ask you, I ran into you. 338 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: It London. In London, you're at a Jets bar. How 339 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: cool is that to be at a different country with 340 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: all these Jets, with all these Jets fans there. 341 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 4: I was cool. 342 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 5: I was there last year too, but it was a 343 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: Vikings home game and it was like ninety purple. 344 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: So this year, but just eating, re meeting people. 345 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 5: Everybody had stories about us, kind of like we were 346 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 5: there yesterday and it's just. 347 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 4: It's all I remember me stories, remembering me stories. And 348 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: then actually someone you. 349 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Share one of those stories that you remember that you 350 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: remember hearing. It was one of the good fans stories 351 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: that they remember about you. 352 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 5: You know, but they all, you know, explain how they 353 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 5: like football and this and that and this, and then 354 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 5: actually some of the stories I start remembering just how 355 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 5: people became fans, and you know, the stories they know, 356 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 5: and then you know, they ask like what's your favorite 357 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 5: play or this and that. Some people are like, I'm sorry, 358 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: I don't understand football, but I hear you're famous. 359 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, not me. 360 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 5: I'm like an outpoint to like you know, Bart Scott 361 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 5: or Antis Beec and I tell them about a Monday 362 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 5: Night miracle thing, you know, the Miami game, and they're 363 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 5: like yeah, but then fifteen minutes they'll come back like, 364 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 5: all right, I just watched it on YouTube. 365 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: You were very good in that game. 366 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 5: And I'm like, the crazy thing is like they they 367 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 5: want to know when you tell stories about this and that, 368 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 5: and then they go watch it and come back and 369 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 5: talk to you about it. And I think that's fascinating. 370 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: And the fact the world where she's playing and maybe 371 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 5: we might go to Ireland and the people they played 372 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 5: in Brazil. 373 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: It's just expanding. 374 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 5: And the fact that the fans are choosing teams now. 375 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 5: When I went there, you know, ten twelve years ago, 376 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: I probably signed one of every different jersey, I mean, 377 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 5: from Brett Farres to RG three to a jersey. Now 378 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 5: they're picking teams and the Jets are one of them. 379 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: Did they have anybody have your jersey? 380 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 381 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: Okay, good. I was gonna say I saw a lot 382 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: of Cebet jerseys in the stadium. Yeah, it's all Lions too, 383 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: big boy. 384 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 385 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 386 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 2: I always run in the fans to say, hey, what 387 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: was it like to play with Joe Nama? Right right, 388 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: that's a little bit before my time. 389 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, it's just uh, some connection you get 390 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 5: to them. And you know, when people think of heart 391 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 5: and soul of Jets teams, they think of you know, 392 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 5: the late eighties, they think of you know, they think 393 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 5: of me, Curtis, Vinnie, Chad, you know, Malai, you know, 394 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 5: Lavernius and then when they and the other ever thinks 395 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 5: of you and Joe and Wesley and O'Brien and Bruce Harborer, 396 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 5: you know, and Freeman. But there's you know, in between, 397 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 5: and then after it's just it's weird, like people remember 398 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 5: the best times were Mayra and the best times were 399 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 5: You're era Marty, and that's that that means something that 400 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 5: we still stick out in people's hand minds right away. 401 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it means something to have that little 402 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: fraternity of Jet players. And right now, you know, our 403 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: thoughts and prayers are with Nick Mangle and you know, hopefully, 404 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: you know, somebody out there is kind enough to donate 405 00:20:59,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: a kidney. 406 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: He's just one of those good guys. 407 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: That you know, he could turn it off and turn 408 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: it on as soon as he walked onto the football field. 409 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: He's been great in the community and you know, it's 410 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: one of those curves in life that you don't expect, 411 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: but here it is. 412 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I didn't know about it, and I 413 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 5: don't know Nick as well as you know, as far 414 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 5: as the guy's after me. 415 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 4: But obviously Nick stands out. You know, Ring of Honor. 416 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 5: Guy gonna be a Hall of Famer, but just same 417 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 5: same thing, just a gentle giant off the field. You know, 418 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 5: great stories, makes people feel good, makes people thankful that 419 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: they're a fan, thanks him for everything, and the fact 420 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: that he's going through that is it's tough. 421 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: But as a Jet. 422 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 5: Family, we support him jud community and hopefully they can. 423 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: Find what he needs and he comes out of this. Okay, 424 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: all right, I'm sad. 425 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: Wayne. So you retired twenty years ago? 426 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, two thousand and five. 427 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 5: Wow, So thirty years ago you were calling that Delaware game. 428 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 5: You're old man, You're you're old man. 429 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: Thanks Wayne, Hey, Wayne, k that's unnecessary roughness. 430 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 5: You know, I just got a hair, I got nothing, 431 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 5: I got nothing under That's why I wear a hat. 432 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 5: But listen, you're you're young man. You get it. You're 433 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 5: getting around there. I know you got your knees done 434 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 5: and everything else done. And you guys are hurting more 435 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 5: than people ever know because the game was different back then, 436 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 5: and you know, saw Freeman and Wesley and Bruce, and 437 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 5: you know, it's just tough. It's tough to watch. Sometimes 438 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 5: they have some bad days. You know, Wesley is always 439 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 5: bright all over the places and that, and you know 440 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 5: he's got titaning him all over his body. And then 441 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 5: you see Freeman and my boy Bruce Harper. You know, 442 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 5: some days are a struggle, but it's so great to 443 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 5: see them on the field and in the green room 444 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 5: and just you know, yeah. 445 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: Like you said earlier, Wayne, you and I are both 446 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: very fortunate, along with a few other to still be 447 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: actively involved with the Jets. So we are really invested 448 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: so that when they lose, we lose. We feel it. 449 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: And you know what. 450 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: We run into people in the community and they pound 451 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: us with the questions and you know, what are we 452 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 2: going to do? You know, this is what and they 453 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: always have a solution. Yeah, And I said yeah, and 454 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: they go, so what do you think? And I go, 455 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: if I thought like you did, I would bottle it 456 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: up and I'd sell it to all these different teams. 457 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, no, clue what I would do? 458 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, why don't they run this or do this 459 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 5: or just that. I'm like, you don't. You should call 460 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 5: them up and tell them, call them. 461 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 4: Up and tell them. 462 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 5: I'm like, listen, like I said, Hindsight's undefeated. You can 463 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 5: go and say we should have done this, should have 464 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 5: done that. You know, and we're all in seven. We 465 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 5: talked the same way when we're thirteen to three. If 466 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 5: we would have done that, done that. It's just how 467 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 5: it is, you know, we in any you know the fans, 468 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 5: you know, some have great ideas and you're like, wow, 469 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 5: that makes sense. But for the most part, I don't 470 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 5: think people understand how final line is between winning and losing. 471 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 5: It's not zero and seven doesn't mean complete overhaul, and 472 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 5: there's no moral victory saying oh we only lost by 473 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 5: one possession three or four games, it's different. You know, 474 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 5: can you come out quick, but can you finish a game? 475 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 5: But what happened to the Giants? You have thirty three 476 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 5: points in the fourth. I'm not saying I rather lose 477 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 5: thirty three to nothing, but losing thirty three to thirty 478 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 5: two is a tough one. 479 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 4: So everybody's going through it. 480 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 5: But just our record stands out and you want to 481 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 5: be playing meaningful football. November and December and we're not 482 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 5: at that point. And I don't blame the fans for 483 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 5: any of it, but the guys have the guys in 484 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 5: that room. I don't know who it is. I don't 485 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 5: know who it was last year Longe Rogers, but you 486 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 5: had guys you would stand up in front of the room. 487 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 5: Joe would stand up in the room, you know what 488 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 5: I mean. I don't know who that guy's been the 489 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 5: last couple of years. You know, so Austin Garrett's good guys, 490 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: but maybe Quinnin. I mean, we had Vinnie, Mawai, Curtis, 491 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 5: there was a handful of guys, you know, Brian Cox, 492 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: Moluis mar you know, Victor Green. They have to have 493 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 5: those guys step up and be like, we're not going 494 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 5: out like this. There's no way we're going winless. We're 495 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 5: going to get a win before the bye and that's it. 496 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: We're not thinking any other way. It's going to happen, 497 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 5: and that's it. 498 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: Well, Wayne, we appreciate you, journeying, I got I'm on 499 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: the screen with two jet legends. I'm so excited to 500 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: be here. I'm honest, real quick, before we let you go, 501 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: what does it mean to you to be a jet. 502 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: What does it mean to you to be a jet? 503 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 4: You know, people asked me that it's just it's my life. 504 00:25:59,119 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 4: It's been my life. 505 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: I don't ever remember being not not that it's my identity. 506 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 5: I don't ever remember feeling like anything else. Like I 507 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 5: feel like I've been been a jet since birth. Like 508 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 5: you know, I was a jet and Giant jet and 509 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: Giant fan growing up mostly Giant, you know, at points, 510 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 5: because you know, that's just how it was in uh, 511 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 5: in my in my household. But yeah, just the fact 512 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 5: to stay involved, you know, to be put in the 513 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 5: ring of honor and to be you know, to be 514 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 5: a representative saying listen, we're gonna bring three or four 515 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 5: players to represent us. You know, we're gonna bring We're 516 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 5: gonna bring you to represent our organization. You know, they 517 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: bring back and he does radio and bart do's TV, 518 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 5: you know, and Eric Coleman does you know, and then 519 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 5: you know, Marty is still involved and Wesley's involved, and 520 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 5: just it's only there's a core of us and bo 521 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 5: and it just feels good to be a. 522 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: Part of that. 523 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 5: Twenty years later, like all right, you're just you still 524 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 5: represent what the Newark Jets organization means. That means more 525 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 5: than when I played the fact that I'm still people 526 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 5: still want to see me, get autographs and be on 527 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 5: shows like this, That's what that what means the most. 528 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: It means I did my job as. 529 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 5: A person and as a team twenty to thirty years ago, 530 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 5: that I'm still here now, that's what it means to me. 531 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 3: That's well said, Well said, Wayne. 532 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: Thanks, we appreciate you joining and enjoy the rest of 533 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: your day. 534 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: Thanks you too. Margin. 535 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: How cool is it that I literally got to talk 536 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: to Wayne Corbett who's played his whole career with the 537 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: Jets in the Ring of Honor and I get to 538 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: talk to you, a guy who played his entire career 539 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: with the Jets and is in the Ring of honor. 540 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: How lucky am I? 541 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: You know what? That was pretty neat. 542 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: And to see Wayne and the success that he had, 543 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 2: the hard work that he put in, and I know 544 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: to cover his games for MSG and Cable Vision when 545 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: he played in college, and to look at him now 546 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: and a father of three boys, and he represents the 547 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: Jets out there in the community. 548 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: One of the best. All Right, you know what time 549 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: it is, Marty is question time? Question time. All right, 550 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: this question comes from Jay Bernstein. Now, Marty, we actually 551 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: ran into him and his wife, remember at the elevator 552 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: I think it was the Cowboys game. Okay, we ran 553 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: into him and his wife. So he sent me a 554 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: question and he says, what was your opinion of Walt 555 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Michael's being let go after the Miami Championship and how 556 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: do you think that changed the immediate future of our team? 557 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: Well, number one, I think it was it was embarrassing 558 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: to let him go. They never should have let him go. Well, 559 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: he was a good coach, he was a good person, 560 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: and it changed the whole culture of the building. We 561 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: went from a guy that we wanted to play for. 562 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: He was tough to Then Joe Walton came in and 563 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: Joe had a personality conflict with some of the players 564 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: on the team. Next thing, you know, they weren't there anymore. 565 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: And you know, and I don't blame you know, Joe Walton. 566 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: I'm not pointing the finger at him. That why we 567 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: went backwards. Just just you know, Walt was a good guy. 568 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: It never should have been fired. 569 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: All right, Well this I'll we'll wrap up with this 570 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: one because we're run out of time. And I really 571 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: like this question. I can't wait for your answer. This 572 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: is from Marie from New York. What's the most memorable 573 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: wish you granted? Because you know Marty Lyons Foundation, you 574 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: guys grant wishes, been doing it for how many years now? 575 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: Forty three? 576 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: Forty three years, so you've given out a lot of 577 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: wishes to a lot of incredible people. Is there one 578 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: that stands out? 579 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: I think I think the very first one. 580 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: Does you know when you do that first wish and 581 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: they can't see the background, but Steven's up there. Stephen 582 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: was seventeen and he had lymphomia and we were going 583 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: to send him. 584 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: To the super Bowl. 585 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: The Super Bowl was being held in Tampa that year 586 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: and it was the Raiders versus I think it was 587 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Raiders versus Washington, and unfortunately Stephen passed away. But to 588 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: think now that Stephen would have been sixty years old, 589 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: sixty years old, and that always stands in the back 590 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: of my mind because I went to the funeral and 591 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: I went to the wake and the father said, how 592 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: long are you going to how long are you going. 593 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: To do this foundation? I said, well, hopefully I can 594 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: do it a lifetime. He says, just remember this. 595 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: Do it because you believe in it, do it because 596 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: it makes your heart feel good. Don't do it because 597 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: you want to read about it in the newspaper. 598 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: So his father was very smart. 599 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: If you look over my shoulders and they right there 600 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: where I had that big big. 601 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: That big fro, that big frow, that's Stephen. 602 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: That was our very. 603 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: First wish back in nineteen eighty two. 604 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: So you know, it's a lot of thank yous have 605 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: to go out to all the people here in the 606 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: Tri State area and around the country really for helping 607 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: us get to where we are. We now operating fourteen states. 608 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: We've raised over forty four million dollars and we've helped 609 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: over eighty seven hundred families. But we still need to 610 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: expand we need to get more people involved, and we 611 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: need to let people know that if you don't if 612 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: you can't donate money, donate time. But childhood cancer is 613 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: taking away a lot of destroying a lot of lives. 614 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: It's not just losing the child. How did the siblings 615 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: go on, how did the parents go on, and where 616 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: that struggle comes in, and how we can create hope 617 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: and hope doesn't exist. That's all we try to do and. 618 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: You do that, and you do that, the Marty Lions 619 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: Foundation definitely does that. You are remarkable. Marty. 620 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, but it's all love what you do. 621 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: With your foundation. 622 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: Everybody in that foundation, it's every right, it's everybody. You've 623 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: been out there and you and I've been blessed to 624 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: be friends with you for a long time. When the 625 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: night that you were out there and you m ceed it, 626 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: you did an incredible job. 627 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: And John Franklin Myers. 628 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: You know, here's a guy that here's a guy that 629 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: you know what was with the Jets and he donated 630 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars for every sack that he got and 631 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: then they trade him out there the Denver. But you know, 632 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: it's the involvement that the Jets have had since day one, 633 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: total support. And you see a guy like Wayne Wayne 634 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: donates his time to come back out, Joe Kleckel always there, 635 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: Greg Buddle always there, Lance Mell always there. And Kenny 636 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: Shroy who helped me start the foundation. You can't ask 637 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: Kenny to do any more than what he does. So 638 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: Trulie blessed to be surrounded by good people. 639 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: Well, you're a great person, so you surround yourself with 640 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: people like yourself. Hey, it was fun week. I told 641 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: you we're gonna have fun. Catching up with Wayne Corbett. 642 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: Awesome catching up with you, chatting about a lot of things. 643 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: So do you feel how you feel about this week 644 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: going out? 645 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: Since I feel good, I feel good like, wait, you 646 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: just got to get one, You just got to get 647 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: over that hump. And I feel good, feel good. I 648 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: will see you next week and we're gonna Oh it's Halloween. 649 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: Dress up, Marty, dress up.