1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 2: I'm buzz night and this is the Taken Walk podcast, 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: and here we are number one on the Taken a 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: Walk Top five of twenty twenty five. This conversation originally 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: aired back in late July, and it's no surprise it's 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: landing at the top of our countdown. When Lyle Lovett 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: talks with you, you know you're in for something special, 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: and that's exactly what happened. Lyle brought his characteristic wit, intelligence, 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: and deep understanding of American music to this conversation. He 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: brings that amazing heart and soul as well. We talked 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: about everything from his roots in Texas to the craft 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: of songwriting, from his respect for the tradition of how 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: he's carved out his own unique path and this business. 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: And as always with Lyle, the conversation was as thoughtful 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: and genuine and as kind as the man himself. If 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: you miss this one last time around, or if you 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: just want to revisit it, this episode certainly resonated with 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: so many of you. This is your moment. Let's check 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: out the Taking a Walk episode with Lyle love It 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: number one of twenty twenty five. Coming up next, I'm 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: taking a Walk. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Taking a walk. 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: Hi, Lyle, Hey buys buys Harriett. 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm very well, Lyle. 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 3: How are you right? Thanks? You're very kind to having 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: me go on. 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: It's a pleasure having you on. Taking a walk. We're 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: going to talk about the large band and the acoustic group. 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 2: You got so many live shows to talk about. 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: But buzz bus, I'm a little disappointed that we're not 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: actually taking a walk. 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: Let's go take a walk. 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: Have you have you ever done one of these where 34 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: you do it? Where you do you see Kevin Neland's 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: podcast just Hiking with Kevin. We should do this, we 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: should actually do you walk. 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I would love that. I've done it a few times. 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: I was out at your Mcalcinan's fur Piece ranch and 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: we got to take a walk over there. And I 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: was out at Peter Himmelman's place in upstate New York. 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: So whenever possible, I like an in person walk Lisle 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: and I would be honored one time to do it 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: wherever it worked for you. 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: That'd be fun. You what a great character he is 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: and man just so good. I opened for him years 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: ago at there was a there's a great club in 47 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: Houston called Rockefellers and it was in the It was 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: in the Old Heights. State Heights was a neighborhood in 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: Houston Heights State Bank and the Criners turned it into 50 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: a three hundred seat listening room and they used to 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: have national tour acts. And I was back in the 52 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: in the early eighties. I was one of the local 53 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 3: opening acts that they would call regularly. And I got 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: to open for Gosha, you know, uh, plethora of different 55 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: types of performers and and it was always fun. But 56 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: one one time I got to open for for for 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: Yarma and uh, and I had I hadn't seen a 58 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: picture of Yarma. I didn't know Yarma and and uh, 59 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: there was there was There was a very little backstage area. 60 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: There's just sort of one green room that led onto 61 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: the stage. And I remember getting there early because I 62 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: was the opening act. And and I saw a guy 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: in blue jeans and a black T shirt carrying a 64 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: guitar and an amp coming coming you know, into the building. 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: And I said, are you with Yorma and and uh 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: because he looked like a crew person, you know, I 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: said you was Yorma and he looked he kind of 68 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: looked around, he looked both ways, and you know, zort 69 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: to make sure, just to make sure, you know, and 70 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: he said, I am your. 71 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: He was. 72 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: He was really nice. 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it well other than you 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: and I taking a walk, which would be a dream 75 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: come true. Is there anybody else that you would love 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: to take a walk with, living or dead? That would 77 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: be an experience to cherish? 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, you know, I get to take a walk, 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: you know, figuratively and literally sometimes with people. Watch that 80 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: all the time. You know, people, people. It's all about 81 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: the people, isn't it. People are fascinating and everyone has 82 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 3: a story. Everyone, you know, everyone's life unfolds in an 83 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: individual way. And I just, you know, find it really 84 00:04:53,800 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: interesting to talk to people and and you know, especially 85 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: you know, as as I get older and I talk 86 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: to people who are my age, to hear their interpretation 87 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: of events and how events of the world and events 88 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: of their lives affect them, and and and then to 89 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: ask people, so what does that? You know, what does 90 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: that mean to them? You know, how does all that 91 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: you know, how does all that that's happened to someone 92 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: make them feel about life in general? And the things 93 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 3: that people talk about, the things that are important to 94 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: people always come back to the same basic things, uh, 95 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: you know, love and family, and I mean those those 96 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: are seem to be the most important things to people. 97 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: And and I you know, I find I find people 98 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: wonderfully consist and then wonderfully subtly different from one another. 99 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 3: And there's just I think talking to anyone is an education. 100 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: I think I think anybody, anybody in this world that 101 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: you happen to talk to, could be that one person 102 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: that gives you an insight that you'd never had before. 103 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: And the consistency is a really important thing that you mentioned. 104 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: And I find another piece of this I want to 105 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: see if you agree with you also find where passion 106 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: plays in to what either the every person is thinking 107 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: about or an author, an artist, musician, their passion for 108 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: their their work and their art, and then additionally the 109 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: incredible resilience that they have through ups and downs the 110 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,559 Speaker 2: way the world goes. Would you agree with that, Lyle? 111 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't know whether it's resilience or 112 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: you know, this mindset that says, no, I have to 113 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: do this, this is what I have to do. It's 114 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: almost almost an inability to do anything else. And when 115 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: you see that quality in someone, when I see that 116 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: quality in someone I am always inspired. I'm inspired by 117 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: their feeling compelled to do what they do. You know, 118 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: I think it's as much about that as it is 119 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: about a determination in terms of navigating whatever obstacles the 120 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: world throws in your way. I think it's you know, 121 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: it's almost you know, rather than rather than being a 122 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: bulldozer going down the street knocking obstacles out of the way, 123 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: the the artists that seem to be successful and well 124 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: adjusted are more like a stream of water that simply 125 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: flows its way around obstacles and to get to the end. 126 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: So it's I mean, there are different approaches, certainly, but 127 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: you know, the kind of person that I would rather 128 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: be myself, it would be more that stream of water 129 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: that flows through and makes it makes it to the 130 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: end more effortlessly. Just thinking about water, I mean brings 131 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: to mind that, you know, the flooding that we've had 132 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: down in Texas and how devastating that is. So that 133 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: can you know, a stream of water is one thing, 134 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: but a flood like that, man, I'm sorry, I'm just 135 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: kidding off track, but that you know that there is 136 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: a quality of you know, persistence that I think any 137 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: artist of any type has to have. You know, you 138 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: don't really have to work at the persistence because because 139 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: what you're doing is important enough to you to just 140 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: never stop. It's not a matter of saying I have 141 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: to be persistent. It's more a matter of, you know, 142 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen, but I can't 143 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: stop doing this. 144 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: I do want to touch on the conditions that you 145 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: and you know, friends and family are keenly aware of 146 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: in Texas these days. You know, the horrible story that 147 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: we see and visualize and know about is so terrible 148 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: and so just you know, frightening. What can you tell 149 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: us about the of things now? 150 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: Well, you know, people are are you know, trying trying 151 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: to It was just a memorial service on Monday in 152 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: our neighborhood. That was you know, it was so so 153 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: many people were there, It was so supported. My wife 154 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: April was able to go. I was we were playing 155 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: Grand Rapids Michigan, but for for an eight year old 156 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: girl who has swept away in her cabin and she 157 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: was the granddaughter of neighbors of ours and and who 158 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: we're close with, and and at you know, feeling that 159 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: and having eight year old children ourselves, you know, you 160 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: feel the impact of that especially, and and and and 161 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: you know, all I can all I can think is 162 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: how her father, her father spoke beautifully at the service, 163 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: April said, and and how he could even speak at 164 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: all is beyond my imagination. And you know, you I 165 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: can't help but think about how, you know, how those 166 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: families will never be the same, yeah, I And and 167 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: think also, you know how I have no idea how 168 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: I would respond in that kind of situation. I have 169 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: no idea what that would do to me. So so 170 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: it's a you know, it's it's really thinking about the tragedy. 171 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: And you know, the the community in general, you know, 172 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: has been devastated, and it's wonderful to see the support 173 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: that the community is rallying to to help help these folks. 174 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm my friend Robert Keane is doing a fundraiser with 175 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: some really wonderful artists on the twenty eighth of August. 176 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: I'm I'm part of I've been invited to be part 177 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: of four different fundraisers. Earlier in August. George Strait has 178 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: already done a fundraiser. Uh. You know, people start, musicians 179 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: and performers started wanting to help immediately, and I haven't 180 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: spoken to a single performer who hasn't just said, sure, 181 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: count me in. Most performers are are in a better 182 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: position to to donate their time and and their performances 183 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 3: to to try to get people out people people out 184 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: who can can actually financially support the organizations who are 185 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: trying to help, and they can, you know, financially support themselves. 186 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,119 Speaker 3: But I don't know of a single musician or performer 187 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: who who hasn't said, yeah, I just signed me up. Look, 188 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: you know, whatever I can do. And and that's you know, 189 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: that's it's a wonderful thing to see. But but none, 190 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: none of that, None of that and none of that, 191 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: you know, wonderful humanity that comes from a tragedy makes 192 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: up for the loss that actually happened. And you know, all, 193 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: I think all we can do as people in the 194 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 3: world is be sensitive to the people who've lost people 195 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: or have lost their homes, lost everything they had. We 196 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: can all we can do is be sensitive to them 197 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: and be sympathetic to them and to help them however 198 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: we can. But nothing, nothing we can do well, you know, 199 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: whatever come close to making up for their their loss 200 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: in the first place. 201 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the Taken a 202 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 203 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, what of horses and your love of the countryside 204 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: taught you about patience and art and life. 205 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: I've learned so much from horses animals in general. You know. 206 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: I grew up on my grandfather's farm. My grandfather had 207 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: retired by the time I came along, but his sons 208 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: ran a dairy farm on the on the place and 209 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: and also grew vegetables, and there was always something to do, 210 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: you know, there was always there was always work to 211 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: be done, and even as a little boy, I and 212 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: my cousins were offered, you know, offered jobs to go 213 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: and pick vegetables or helping the dairy barn, you know, 214 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: just to do anything. And I appreciate that and my 215 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: my uncle's and my extended family who all lived there 216 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: and part of the farm place. My mom was one 217 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: of seven children, and my grandparents offered each one of 218 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: their children, you know, an acre or two to build 219 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: homes on so that everyone would be close. And so 220 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: that's the sort of family the environment I grew up in, 221 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: and I was an only child that I was, you know, 222 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: three hundred yards from my grandparents and my aunts and 223 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: uncles and a dozen first cousins and and so I 224 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: always felt as if I was from a big family. 225 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: But there was there was, there was always plenty to 226 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: do and and uh, patients. I one of the one 227 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: of the great horsemen that I had the privilege of 228 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: working with, but not you know, not until I was 229 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: in my gosh and my my forties. But but a 230 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: retired world champion bronc writer named Bill Smith. And he 231 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: just passed away on the first of June this year, 232 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: Cody Bill Smith is he was from Cody, Wyoming. Uh, 233 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: and he got interested in horsemanship after he retired from 234 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: rodeo and started attending ray Hunt clinics, and uh, you know, 235 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: just just the wisdom, the wisdom he had in working 236 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: with horses is so afflicable to humanity as well. But 237 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: he used to say, you asked me about what you know, 238 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: what did I learn about patience? And what I learned 239 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: about patience? And whether Bill Smith always put it so 240 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: succinct succincly he said, you know, people say that you 241 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: need to have patience in working with horses, he said, 242 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: but you know, he said, you only have to have 243 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: patience when nothing's happening. He said, with horses, there's always 244 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: something happening, you just have to notice it. And that 245 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: I thought was so wise because in this world in general, 246 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you really don't have to have patience because 247 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: there's always something happening. You just have to see what 248 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: it is. You just have to notice what's happening. And 249 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: if you pay attention to everything that's happening, you know, 250 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: you don't have time to be patient because there's always 251 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: something to do. That's that's what I learned from in 252 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: the farm life. I mean, there is always something to do. 253 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: There's always something you can do better. And you know, 254 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: in general, when you're when you're working with animals or 255 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: you're working with you know, crops, if you do the 256 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: right thing, you'll get the result you're looking for. If 257 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: you do the right thing, the right thing will happen. 258 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 3: I think that's the that's that's the biggest lesson that 259 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: I learned growing up on the farm. Do things the 260 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 3: right way. I appreciate the process of what I do 261 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: more than I value the end result. I mean, I 262 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: hope my goal is to make a living for me 263 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: and my family, but it is also to work with 264 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: people whose company I enjoy every day who I respect 265 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: as people who I look up to, and I am 266 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: fortunate and blessed to work with people I feel that 267 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: way about on stage and off. Members of the band 268 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: are people that I admire and look up to greatly, 269 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: but also members of our production crew who we count 270 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: on every day, are people that I admire and look 271 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: up to. How they you know, the family people they are, 272 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: how they how they negotiate the difficulties as I do, 273 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 3: you know, having to be gone from home more than 274 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: we'd like to be. Uh And how how we you know, 275 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: how we have you know, we respect our jobs and 276 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 3: what we're doing and and there they are people that 277 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: I greatly admire and and how and how you know 278 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: how important it is every day to to make sure 279 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 3: we're doing things the right way for the people who 280 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: are showing up at night for the show. You know, 281 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: we depend on and you know, are grateful for those 282 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: people that come to support us, because that ultimately, that's 283 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: that's our only measure of whether or not we get 284 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: to keep our jobs. Those people that show up at night. 285 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 2: When you think of the way their lives are through 286 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: personal challenges in their life and the way the world 287 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: is today. Tell me how it makes you feel when 288 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: you know this community has come together to come to 289 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: a show at night, to see either the acoustic side 290 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: of you or the large band side. What does it 291 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: mean seeing that community every night out when you're on stage. 292 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: Well, you know, feeling the support of of people that 293 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: you know pay money to come to come here. Hear 294 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: what you do, see what you do is a tremendous feeling. 295 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it is a it's the permission to keep going. 296 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: And no, it's a wonderful feeling. You know. In my 297 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 3: early days of performing, I started playing out when I 298 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: was eighteen years old in nineteen seventy six, and I 299 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: played anywhere that someone you know, would let me, at 300 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 3: any restaurant, hamburger joint, pizza joint that wanted live music 301 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: as a part of their atmosphere. I would gladly play anywhere. 302 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: And I had my own little pa I could set up, 303 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: and I was happy to be to be playing anywhere, 304 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: and you know, for any kind of any kind of money. 305 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: I mean I played for two years. I played two 306 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: or three or four nights a week at a Mister 307 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 3: Gatty's Pizza in College Station, Texas when I was you know, 308 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: in school there, music was part of the atmosphere, but 309 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: live music was not the point. You know. People didn't 310 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: come there just to hear me. I mean have few 311 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: people may in the old days, but mainly people came 312 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: there to have pizza. I mean, you know, eventually he 313 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: felt a little bit of a local audience. But but 314 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: you know, I played another place for for a two 315 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: year period. It was a hamburger jointing. It was my 316 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: very favorite hamburger joint in college station, owned by a 317 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: fellow named Sircey Bond. It was called dead solid perfect. 318 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: He put two thirds of a pound of meat on 319 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: every hamburger and they were delicious. But and he had 320 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: he the only music he ever featured was was me 321 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 3: on Sunday nights from six to eight. And he paid 322 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: me actually in hamburgers. So I got eight hamburgers, you know, 323 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: for every gig that I played there. So I you know, 324 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 3: I had a hard time eating that many myself. So 325 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: I was I had I had a a tab built 326 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: up of hamburgers available to me, and so I could 327 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: you know, take my buddies to lunch. They could go 328 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: there kind of whenever I wanted and treat my friends, 329 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 3: which was you know, which was a great feeling. So 330 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: I played places where music was not the point early on, 331 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: and I always thought about, Wow, what would it be like, 332 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 3: What would it be like to play someplace where people, 333 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 3: you know, they come to hear you because they want 334 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: to hear you. You know, they're not just coming there 335 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: for pizza, They're not just coming there for a hamburger. 336 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: They actually are coming there on purpose to hear you. 337 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 3: And I used to think about that all the time 338 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: and think about what a great feeling that must be. 339 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: And all these years later, I am able to realize 340 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: what a great feeling that is. And I appreciate it 341 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: every time that the band and I, whatever the band is, 342 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: at the band I mean, anytime the band and I 343 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: step on stage. I appreciate those folks that come. 344 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: Well, folks can go to uh Lyle Lovett dot com 345 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: to see the multitude of dates that you are playing 346 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: you you road Warrior, you and uh there's tickets available 347 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: while looking on your website and uh, you're you're You're 348 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: on the road for a long time, sir. So there's 349 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities for folks to get to see you. 350 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: But this has been a thrill talking to you, Lyle. 351 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: It's nice showing to you. It's not showing to you. 352 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 3: Guys the you know, playing music, And I think most 353 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: recording musicians are you know, in the in the same 354 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: state as as I am. You know, most most recording 355 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: artists make their living playing playing live shows. These days, 356 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: you know, the idea of making a record and having 357 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: a record sell enough to support you without going out, 358 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just you know, unless you're selling crazy, 359 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: crazy numbers that very few recording artists in this day 360 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: and time sell. Most performers make their living playing live 361 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: and I have consistently, you know, played ninety to one 362 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: hundred dates a year over the course of my career, 363 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 3: which which means that I'm home more than I'm gone, 364 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 3: and and and also when I'm home, you know, I'm 365 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: really home. I don't have to go to an office. 366 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: I don't have to be away from my family, which 367 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 3: is sort of how I measure value these days. Is 368 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: you know, is it is it worth? Is it worth 369 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: being away from my children, you know, who are eight 370 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: years old now, I mean a day away means I 371 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: don't get to take them to school and pick them up, 372 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: So it's it's a you know, it's a pretty high 373 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 3: bar to have to be as important as that, you know. 374 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: But but but playing on the road is how we 375 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: make a living and and I'm grateful to the people 376 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: who who support us. Where where are you calling from today? Us? 377 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: I am in the suburb of Boston known as Carlisle, Massachusetts. 378 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well the end and the Boston area is 379 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: has been you know, in New England in general has 380 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: been great to me over the course of my career. 381 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: I love Boston is just one of the great cities 382 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: in the world, isn't it. I loved to and I've 383 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 3: gotten to take a couple of summers ago I was there. 384 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: My family was with me on tour there and we 385 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 3: we walked around the Boston Common and you had a 386 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: wonderful time walking them the old streets of Boston. But 387 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: but New England. We'll be in Lowell, mass this summer 388 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks. But but we Boston, Boston, 389 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 3: New England is you know, we get there once a year. 390 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 3: You know. It amazes me really, because I spent most 391 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: of my youth growing up. We didn't my parents both worked, 392 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: we didn't travel a lot. We had I can think 393 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 3: of only a couple of trips where we flew somewhere 394 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: when I was growing up to take a take a 395 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: family vacation, so I didn't start seeing a lot of 396 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: the country until I started traveling to perform, and I 397 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: always loved coming to New England. 398 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: You are a gem, mister Lovett. It's an honor to 399 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: speak with you. 400 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 3: Thank thanks for having me on Buzz and I appreciate 401 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: your you know, helping me get the word out to 402 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 3: your audience. And for any of you folks listening, Thanks, 403 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: thanks for listening, come see. 404 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Us anything for you, Lyle, Thank you so much, Thank you, Bud. 405 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 406 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 407 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: and follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 408 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 409 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: and wherever you get your podcasts.