WEBVTT - Draft Show: A Battle For No. 3 Overall? 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:08.600 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.399 room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.920 the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco, 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:23.200 Dallas Cowboys like DDE Lamb and now your hosts Dane Brugler, 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:29.440 Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Yeomans. Well. I hope 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.800 everybody has their morning coffee, has an opportunity to get 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.879 their draft notebook out, and is back on top of 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.120 the Draft show here on a Friday morning. It's an 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.880 early morning edition of the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.360 As we are one hundred and thirty nine days out 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.280 from this moment from the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.720 Welcome in to the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.320 in Frisco. Kyle Yeomans with you alongside our fantastic group 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.880 of panelists this year, the athletics Dane Brugler, We've got 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.520 Kevin kt Turner and then Jeff cabinall from one oh 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.320 five three the fan and guys. It's a it's an 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.200 important week, to say the least, whenever it comes to 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.960 the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, especially when it comes 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.319 to the Dallas Cowboys. Jeff, I just want to know 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:23.040 what you're calling this week between the Cowboys and the Bengals. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:27.880 Do you have a specific name for it. I guess 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.160 it depends on the language we're allowed to use on 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.080 this platform. Okay, I mean you can do tank. It 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.040 could be tank Bold twenty twenty. It could be the 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:40.160 the Suck for Sewel Battle. It's a big but it's 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.479 a big game. Clearly, it's a big game for both teams, 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:48.400 Cincinnati and Dallas both looking to to get the desired result. 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.680 We'll say, looking to get the proper result in this game, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.760 because man, a lot hangs in the balance this week. Kyle, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.960 we're talking about more ammunition for captain trade down here. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.240 That's what we're really talking about. I don't care about 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.320 Penney Steel. I'm looking for more ammunition. Let's go. You 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.400 just want more rumble in the jungle? Is oh? I 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.440 like that, Katie, say that one more time, good old 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.200 fashioned the rumble in the jungle till out the record books. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.360 When the Cowboys and the Bengals get together one team, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.520 he's got a head coach on the line the Bengals, 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.680 he's trying not to get fired. That's the Bengals. I 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.480 think our coach is fine for now. Um, so yeah, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.120 there's there's a lot on the line in this game. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.680 So yeah, I'm looking forward to the Cowboys going out 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.840 there and doing their best. And I feel like Dane, 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:41.120 you you probably won't kind of participate in the Tank 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.280 Bowl twenty twenty, but do you think this is legitimately 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.520 a battle for the number three overall pick? Depending on 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:51.919 who loses this game, it's gonna end up getting it. Yeah, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.760 there's a great shot that's what it ends up being. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:58.160 And you know, the Jets and Jaguars probably gonna be 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.840 the first two picks, and then after that, that's where 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.640 it gets really interesting. And you know, we on the 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.240 Athletic we did an oracle this week on we did 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.080 a million simulations. The rest of the season. The Cowboys 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.120 have a fifty six point three percent chance of picking 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.960 top five, so not even as high as I thought. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.360 It'd be a little higher than that, to be honest 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.600 with you. But if they do win this game against 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.320 the Bengals, then all of a sudden, you know, then yeah, 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.200 we're talking about pick seven, pick eight, and things get 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.320 a little more interesting with how they're going to navigate 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.760 this draft, so you know it's it's gonna be an 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.760 interesting the results gonna make. It's gonna have a ripple 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:36.760 effect of how we look at this draft, how the 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.000 top seven eight picks play out. So you know my 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.920 eyes will be glued on this one, no doubt. Well, 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.840 I'm glad you actually brought that up, because I think 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.320 that is a worry for a lot of Dallas Cowboys 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.080 Nation right now, is the fact that you could have 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.320 the number three overall pick, but to win this week 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.560 really puts you back in terms of draft position. Sure, 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.160 it might get you right back in the hunt to 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.119 be a game out of the NFC East with three 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:03.000 to play, but with that being said, I mean it's 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.960 more likely to end up in a top five pick 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.000 than I'm sure it is to win the NFC East 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.760 at this moment after the loss last week to the Ravens. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.080 But Dane kind of address what one of the biggest 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.520 problems is at hand this year, and that's the fact 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.919 that there's a big difference between pick number three and 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.520 let's says pick number five, six, seven, And how big 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.760 of a gap is that that we're looking at heading 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:30.200 into twenty twenty one. Well, yeah, and I think it's twofold. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.719 You know, first of all, you have to talk about 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.720 quarterbacks likely go one two, So you would have your 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.440 choice of the best non quarterback in this draft if 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.480 you're picking three, and you have to feel great about that, 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.960 whether that is Penna Sul or whether that is the 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.240 highest ranked defensive player on your board, you feel really 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.040 good about getting that guy. The second part of that 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:55.120 is the trade implications. You know, if quarterbacks go one two, Jets, Jaguars, 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.000 and then you've got a few teams lurking with Panthers 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.600 and you know a few of these other teams that 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.440 could possibly trade up, and so if you have that 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.719 third pick, your phone's gonna be blown up about okay, 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.520 well what's it going to cost to move to move up? 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.080 And so having that third pick put you in a 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:15.080 position of power, and in the draft, that's what you want. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.960 You want options. You want to be able to have. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.200 The more options is going to give you a chance 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.520 to find value. And again, that could be the best 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.760 player available there, or it could be a deal that 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.200 knocks you off your feet and you say, okay, yeah, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.480 well we'll take an extra one next year. You know, 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.400 we'll take a couple of twos, a couple of Day 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.279 two picks, and we'll revamp this roster. So when you 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.760 look at what's best for this organization moving forward, having 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.080 that number three pick would be a pretty big power move. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.360 I feel like that's just music to Jeff Kavanaugh's ears 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.000 right now, I really do. I think what I think 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:53.080 that's just music to your ears. Yeah, I think, and 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.320 I think it bears it. Actually, I think it bears 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.400 repeating that this is a weird draft here, at least 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:04.080 based on what I watched so far, in that you know, 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.680 when you've earned, through your blood, sweat and tears and injuries, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.880 the right to pick in the top five and potentially 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.359 take the best defensive player on the board. They're supposed 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.560 to be like Chase Young or Miles Garrett or Jalen Ramsey, 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.640 like they're supposed to be these corners and these edge rushers, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.359 and there's not this year. So for like, so for 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.520 all the fun that I'm having talking about team tank 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.640 and Captain trade down, the traddown aspect I think is 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.680 very important because odds are because in most drafts there 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.240 are there's Pro Bowlers and there's all pros somewhere. But 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.080 this year, my confidence level in telling you who's going 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.360 to end up being the best corner or the best 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.719 pass rusher is not what it would normally be. So 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.360 to me, it's it is, it's it's I'm really cheering 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:56.000 for a potential scenario that may not even happen, but 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.520 it's a lot of fun. You know, Captain Traddown needs 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.720 to ride. This is a it's a really weird year. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.920 You need to. You need to get all the value 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.240 you can out of that pick and just not get 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.840 stuck with it. Well, real quick question for both Jeff 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.240 and Kat who's the best defensive player in this draft 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.600 that you have watched so far? You know, not and 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.880 not and not just talking specifically about the Cowboys, just too, 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.680 just a flat out broad question. Who is the best 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.960 defensive player you have watched up to this point? I 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:30.960 may go, I mean it's gonna be between Lee um 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:37.120 Ohli the Georgia edge maybe and like that and that's 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.080 and and I think that's a guy that most years 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.360 goes in the late teens, So like, you know, um 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:47.880 and maybe it is Patrick Surtan the Alabama corner, but 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.000 I feel like his tape also normally goes in the 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.360 late teens. So that's that's that's where I'm at. I 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:58.800 don't have a guy that that I absolutely love, Um, Katie, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.880 give me the other names. Farley, Oh, the guy I've 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.600 got like most excited about, like watching and may have 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.280 like potential to it as Micah Parsons. But I don't 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.040 have a ton of interest and watch and drafting an 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.160 off bowl linebacker in the top ten only top fifteen 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.600 for being Honestum, I have a ton of interest in 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.840 doing that. Farley would be next. He's my top ranked 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.640 corner right now, but I'm still kind of scrapping for 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:28.720 for twenty nineteen Virginia tech film or more film. Hit 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:34.079 me up after the show. Oh all right, nice, good news, Um, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.960 But that's probably where I would stand. Yack Rousseau from 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:43.400 Miami is very interesting. Yeah, I don't trust it at all, um, 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.560 and god, I mean that you have to see more 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.800 and you can't. You can't see more, like it's not there. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.000 You nupped it out. So like he's very interesting. That's 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.320 where I'm at, and that's where I keep leaning going 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.840 back towards you know what if you're stuck there and 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.360 can't move back that's where I end up on Pina 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.200 Seul And I'm okay doing that because up there, I'm 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:06.800 going to take the best player on my board. I 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.360 would love to go defense. But what's up there in 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.760 the draft that's out of my control. So I can 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.440 sit here and gripe and moan about, well, there's nothing 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.520 I'm picking third but the defensive players or debt caliber. Well, 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.600 it's out of your control, dude. So like, but I 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.040 think another thing about this, like is wherever you're drafting at, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.920 there could be action when it comes to trading down 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.800 when you're picking at thirty six as well in round two, Yeah, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.800 like there could be teams calling up you could get 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.240 some extra picks there as well. So I mean, I 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.640 think there is a ton of value to picking. You know, well, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.199 if we all know it, it's it's it's not rocket science. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.240 The better pick you have, the better chance you have 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.800 it at success. If you're doing things you're right. That 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.400 being said, I totally think the Cowboys are gonna beat 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.280 the Bengals on Sunday. I do believe that. So, you know, 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.560 I don't know if the third pick is very realistic. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:58.480 I truly mean that. Well, and to what Dane is 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.960 t well. I guess Dame's asked my defensive players, but 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.319 we always end up settling back on offensive players have 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.360 the way this thing feels. And I just want to 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.120 point out for all to talk about Sewell, if he's 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.560 the best non quarterback, the second best non quarterback might 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.640 be Rashaan Slater, the Northwestern offensive tackle. So you might 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.480 be looking at something where because I mean, his tape 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.960 is awesome, Chase Young knows who he is. I promise 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.440 he had played against Chase Young and he played really well. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.480 So that's that's the weird world we live in where 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:33.400 I think a lot of cowboy fans are going to 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.920 look at it and say, I don't want to use 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.080 another high pick on the offensive line. And I'm going 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.880 to tell you, if you get stuck, your two best 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:45.880 and safest picks might be on the offensive line's outfits. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.480 Let's go. Is that kind of the thing that we're 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.000 looking for in the Lord draft, though, because if you're 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.280 looking at a top five pick right now that that 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.839 talent is offensive side of the football, it really is. Dane, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.480 and I know you've you mocked a corner and Caleb 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.080 Farley in your first mock draft, But is it just 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.520 really at least at this point in the draft process. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.720 Things of course can change between now in April it's 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.320 one hundred and thirty nine days. But is it reaching 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.839 on pretty much every defensive player that we've said? Is 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:17.600 that one of the reasons why you asked that question. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.000 It's not reaching in the context of this draft class 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:28.520 and what has to offer. You know, it's like Jeff 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.520 was saying, ideally the caliber of playing the caliber of 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.319 player you're getting a little bit later in other drafts. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.079 In this draft, you can't help that these are the 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.600 players that are available for you. So in this draft, 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.440 you know, Caleb Farley is the fourth player drafted. It's 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:48.239 not necessarily a reach because in this draft you absolutely 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.360 can justify it. So yeah, and I agree with what 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.839 Jeff was saying about the tackles, you know, with Penney 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.040 Sewell and Rashawn Slater. I mean those have been tackle 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.360 one and two for me since the summer. I mean 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.200 it's pretty clear cut in my mind. Slater, I think 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.000 is not going to be as universally loved because he 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.000 has thirty two and a half inch arms and you know, 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.959 he just he's gonna get dinged up a little bit 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.880 throughout the draft process. But the guy can play. He's 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:19.680 an outstanding player. Body coordination, the aggressiveness, the technique. You know, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.160 sign me up. I think he's got a position versatility, 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.319 even more so than maybe Penna Suel does. So huge 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.440 Slater fan, and I think Katsy made a good point 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.880 as well about that third pick you know had. It's 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.320 not just for the first round, but in the second 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.160 round too. If you have an early pick, what if J. C. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.880 Horne were to fall a little bit, maybe you make 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.760 a move up, Maybe you get Penny Suel at three, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.480 and then you trade back up into the first round 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.360 to get JC Horn. You know, I think he just 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.120 gives you more options. So I agree with Kats that 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.120 I think the Cowboys win this weekend. But at the 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.480 same time, be awfully nice to have that third pick. 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.200 Kats tell me about Penny. So what have you seen 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.280 from the Oregon offensive tackle? I mean, this is another 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:05.960 guy that was an opt out. And we mentioned the 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.839 opt out with Brian, Bucky and Dave in the first show. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.199 But does it scare you to say that, hey, one, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.040 we're gonna take an offensive player and not address the 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.520 countless holes on this defense. But two, we're not just 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.440 doing that. We're taking a player that hasn't played since 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.280 twenty nineteen. But what makes him special enough to actually 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:28.000 make that pick? Yeah? No, it does make you a 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.960 little a little an I don't if nervous as the word, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.600 because they if you like the guy and you've scattered him, 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.480 you like him, you draft him and you feel fine 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.400 about it. But you start looking at like asset allocation 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.880 and things like that. You know. I gotta be honest, 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.360 going into that Tuesday night game against Baltimore, I thought 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.720 Andy Dalton was gonna get sacked like ten times, ended 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.480 up giving them up one sack. I justs a Baltimore 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.320 team that blitz is more than any team in the league. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.840 Like I thought that. I thought that night was a 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.480 night that showed the offensive line depth is pretty good. Now, 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.400 you don't want all these guys arty and you hope 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.520 that you get tiring and Lyle back, and that's ideally 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.439 what you have. But you know, the first thing that 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.040 jumps out if you have any type of roster situation 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.320 with Tyring Lyle's hip going forward is I feel very 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.960 comfortable with Pinney Soool playing guard if he needed to 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.680 do that for one year or two years, not like 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.000 moving guys around a lot, but feel very comfortable he 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.080 could do that. I mean, his power is very evident. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.560 I mean you see him crashing down on the on 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.120 the down block and just creating a lot of space. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.920 And I mean this not really not in a disrespectful manner, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.800 but we have a running back will be on this 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.040 roster that quite frankly needs a lot of space. Um, 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.120 So that's something that that he could do. And I 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.600 think his ability to work in space is there as well. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.280 I mean for a three hundred and thirty pound guy, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.560 he just moves better than most guys do it that size. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.360 So I think he's got really good hands. We hardly 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:55.680 ever see him go to the ground. I mean, I 0:14:56.040 --> 0:15:00.720 think he is a really really strong prospect. I don't 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.640 I don't know. This is where the scouting part gets weird, 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.480 because I gotta have people who are almost in a 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:13.240 private investigator like style knowing what he's been doing in 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.400 twenty twenty. Because if you're not playing, it's very hard 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.600 to you know, stay in game shape. So I think 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.240 you got to keep your eyes on those guys, especially 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.960 the guys you're three hundred and thirty pounds, Jeff, if 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.880 you were to be taken by the Cowboys and the 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.000 Cowboys elected to go offensive line, what would the jumble 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.080 of that offensive line look like? Because you're not gonna 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.360 get rid of Tyrants Man, Tyrant Smith's gonna be here, 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.560 Lyle Collins is going to be here. What would you 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.960 do in order to fit pen a soul into a system? 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.920 Would you move him to guard? Would you move Tyrant 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.520 Smith to write tackle Collins to guard? Where where would 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.440 we go? If it were the Cowboys standpoint? I guess 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.920 you'd have options if you wanted to. You could always 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.360 play Lyle Collins at guard. But I think for me, 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.800 initially you would be using a top five pick and 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.120 you would be putting your guy at left guard, and 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.400 that's where Pinna Sewel would line up. And I think 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.200 he could do it because you know, the Cowboys ask 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.440 a lot of their guards in terms of the combo 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.040 blocks and getting to the next level and all those 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.040 different things, and I think Piney Seul is actually really 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.320 good at those things. The athleticism. What I really like 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.000 about him is that he plays with a level of 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:22.280 what I calls pissed off adness. He wants. He wants 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.520 you to end up on the ground. He wants to 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.400 help people. So in my opinion, you would you'd be 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.520 putting him at left guard, assuming everybody else is good 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.200 to go, and if he needed to transition a tackle 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.920 at some point that he would. But I think I 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:38.800 think he could play guard, and I think that he 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.040 would be good at it. I think he's absolutely fine 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.360 in a phone booth. But to Dane's point, you know, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:50.800 he also has he's a house, he's a monster, and 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.520 the arms are probably going to be a Dane guest 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.200 thirty five and a half inches like he's he's an 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.400 absolute house. So he'll end up as a tackle. But 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:00.920 if he's got to be a guard for a while, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.680 then so be it. And I like the way that 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.800 Kat said that he can move a little bit, and 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.680 you're calling him a house, so he's a mobile home. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.000 It's mobile home Pina over on the West Coast, I 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.840 guess whenever it comes to that left tackle spot. But 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.720 it's interesting because, like we said at the top of 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.200 the show, the loser of this game most likely will 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.240 have the number three overall pick, or at least a 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.160 really really good shot of it entering the final three 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.119 weeks of the year. If not, the Cowboys could be 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.840 picking right around six, seven, eight nine, depending on how 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.439 they fare against the rest of the NFC East in 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.239 the last couple weeks of the season. 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I'm Kyle Yeomans and Dane. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:09.800 You brought up an interesting point in the middle of 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.439 the break, and I wanted to hit it really quickly 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.320 before we get into Twitter on the twenty But where 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:18.440 would Pinney Sewell sit if this were the twenty nineteen 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.679 or excuse me, twenty twenty draft, last year's draft, in 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:26.840 terms of the tackles that were available, Yeah, and we 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.960 have to preface that with reminding people how great that 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.840 tackle class was last year. I mean, we had five 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.600 in the top twenty picks, and so far they've they've 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.760 lived up to it, and you know, even Andrew Thomas 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:41.760 is coming around, and I think it's fair to say that. 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:43.720 You know, there were different orders for different teams. The 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.840 Giants thought Andrew Thomas was the best of the group. 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.000 Other teams had different orders. But for me personally, I 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.960 know Sewell would have he'd be probably the fourth best 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:56.040 tackle among last year's class. He'd be Jedrick Wills was 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.919 by far. It was a clear cut one for me, 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:02.000 and then Trip Worse was the clear cut two. Beckton 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.600