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Speaker 1: Always good to talk with you. It's another season. Let's go, yeah, baby,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Great stalk A love you guys, I love it. UM.

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Speaker 1: Let me just start with a couple of new faces

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Speaker 1: They work extremely hard. They dedicated some time both here

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