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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimsells, John Oshan,

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Speaker 1: Brian Sex Jacks Drive Time and it starts right now

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Speaker 1: they're part I'm gladn't No, No, definitely, just that's just

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Speaker 1: a human element of it. Just send the results, you're

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Speaker 1: definitely like if there was in a Year to Miss,

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Speaker 1: I missed the grave one. Okay, every time I hear it,

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Speaker 1: I laughed. The clip that has gone absolutely viral from

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Speaker 1: Traves E t and and in the moment, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was funny, but I didn't think it would catch

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Speaker 1: the attention that it did on the path back a

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Speaker 1: few show it's on Rick Guys and show. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: just the man's just being honest. Well, that's it, And

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Speaker 1: I think we lack a certain candor, right and everyone

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Speaker 1: wants to say the right thing in the social media

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Speaker 1: age so that you don't go viral for the wrong reasons. Um,

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Speaker 1: and he just kind of laid it out there for

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Speaker 1: what it is and it's refreshing. Yeah, if for nothing else.

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Speaker 1: I mean that there are three and fourteen Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: of course it's the Year to Miss, and then there

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Speaker 1: is all the underlying you know what exactly was he

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Speaker 1: talking about what you know everything. So it was a

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Speaker 1: great quote. It was, and I appreciate the honesty. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Jaguars Drive Time on a Tuesday. A lot to

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Speaker 1: discuss here, as the draft is only nine days away.

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Speaker 1: We get into big things here. Big thing one's smart

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hunchinson is the smart choice and the most popular

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Speaker 1: draft choice as of now when you look at mock drafts,

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Speaker 1: adding a defensive end to this defensive line, and we

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Speaker 1: were talking to Shaq Griffin. He seems on board with

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Speaker 1: it as well. I think we just need someone scared.

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Speaker 1: We need one more scary name because I thought we

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Speaker 1: got amazing pieces on defense, amazing, but one more person

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Speaker 1: who can take pressure off either of me John's Allen.

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Speaker 1: We got Darius and Wills that We've got so many

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Speaker 1: great guys. You can get one more person on that

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who fel is going to have amazing year.

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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna be a big thing too. Is rising

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Speaker 1: but risky. Now we go to the other popular draft choice,

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Speaker 1: not as Georgia defensive tackle tray Von Walker, and he

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Speaker 1: Walker over the smart choice. We just talked about an

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Speaker 1: age in Hutchinson, but Walker's athletic ability, if you fall

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Speaker 1: in love with it, maybe that's the smart choice. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about that. And finally, Big Thing three

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Speaker 1: is calm before the storm. It is very quiet around here,

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Speaker 1: but it will not be quiet. And about a week

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Speaker 1: And I just showed a picture to Brian. My dad

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Speaker 1: is in Vegas right now and they are building the

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Speaker 1: So I've been going to the draft since they moved

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Speaker 1: And it's not a stage, right, it's a building. I

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Speaker 1: weeks early and start building out, you know, because of

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Speaker 1: all the television infrastructure they need. Um I I don't

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Speaker 1: It was just not an event. And then really, Bryan,

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Speaker 1: they're still guessing a lot of time. Oh there's no

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Speaker 1: but when you're dealing with the young human beings who

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Speaker 1: And that's what it feels like. And again, Vegas is

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Speaker 1: I mean by that is that it's pretty much tailored by, uh,

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Speaker 1: what the players can bring to the table, and that

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Speaker 1: has also been a point of emphasis for us as

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Speaker 1: a offense and what coach wants it's gonna be tailor

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Speaker 1: to to to the skill sets the best skill sets

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Speaker 1: on this team. So, UM, for me as a player,

435
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Speaker 1: you can't really go wrong with that. Tell Us about

436
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Speaker 1: the guys in that room, Um, in particular, you know

437
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Speaker 1: Dan Arnold came in the trade and we didn't get

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Speaker 1: the chance to sit with him like this because of

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Speaker 1: the COVID UM, and you bring in Evan Ingram, who's

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Speaker 1: a former first round draft choice who people are now

441
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Speaker 1: looking going, that's a sneaky good move to have that

442
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Speaker 1: kind of a talent. What do you know from the

443
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Speaker 1: personalities of these guys, I wouldn't even say it's sneaky,

444
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Speaker 1: it's it's a great move. Um, he's a hell of

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Speaker 1: a player. And you know his tenure in New York.

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Speaker 1: You know Afar watching from as far as a tight end,

447
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Speaker 1: you see the type of dynamic player that he is. Um,

448
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: he could stretch the field. Um, he's fast. He's almost

449
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Speaker 1: like a big receiver in a sense. So having having

450
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Speaker 1: guys like that to complement our room, you know, it

451
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Speaker 1: kind of put to the defense and linebackers in particular

452
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Speaker 1: in a buying to where they have to pick their poison. Now,

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Speaker 1: guess who the most tenure Jaguars player in that room

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Speaker 1: is now making me feel over. It shows you a turnover,

455
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Speaker 1: But does that you feel like a leader in that room?

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Speaker 1: I guess what I'm getting at. Yes, Um, that's certainly

457
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Speaker 1: a role that I've been open to being to being

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Speaker 1: a part of. UM. But at the same time, I

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Speaker 1: have to give credit to the guys in the room

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Speaker 1: as well, because although they're relatively young compared to me. Um,

461
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Speaker 1: they've been in this league. Outside of Luke Farrell, the

462
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Speaker 1: younger guy, they've been in this league for for quite

463
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Speaker 1: a bit to get their feet wet. So as far

464
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Speaker 1: as being a pro and and knowing how to go

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Speaker 1: about your business, UM, you know, those guys do a

466
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Speaker 1: great job of it. And we've beat off of each other,

467
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Speaker 1: so that's that's always a good thing. We talked in

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Speaker 1: here about Doug Peterson's approach to this offseason. Having been

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Speaker 1: a guy who played it for fourteen years played quarterback

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Speaker 1: and who coached it for a dozen more. UM, it

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Speaker 1: seems like his approach to the voluntary portion of the

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Speaker 1: off season would fit a veteran like you and like

473
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Speaker 1: this locker room perfectly. Oh absolutely, UM, And we're we're

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Speaker 1: kind of at least uh knowing from last week. We're

475
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Speaker 1: taking a pretty methodical approach as far as implementing the offense,

476
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Speaker 1: installing the offense, ensuring that all the guys know the

477
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Speaker 1: nuances of the offense, the splits, the very fine details,

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Speaker 1: so that we could all learn and download this information

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Speaker 1: and you know, hit the ground running, come training camp

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Speaker 1: and when the season starts. What's the toughest part of

481
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Speaker 1: trying to learn an offense? I mean, you know, I

482
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Speaker 1: went to college a long long time ago. Is it

483
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Speaker 1: like that? Is it like a class where you're trying

484
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Speaker 1: to look at it and just trying to figure it out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is it's almost like learning

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Speaker 1: a new land, which, um, as a whole. In the NFL,

487
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: we all pretty run pretty much run the same place. Um,

488
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Speaker 1: they're just called differently and it's it's there's there's different

489
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Speaker 1: calls and you know, um, there's just a new language.

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Speaker 1: So just putting yourself in classroom mode whatever it is. However,

491
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Speaker 1: which way you learn. Everybody learns differently. There's visual learners

492
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Speaker 1: and some people write things down like myself. So whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, we need to do as a whole and

494
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Speaker 1: individually to to learn and grasp the offense. You know

495
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Speaker 1: it'll take time, but you know we now is the

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Speaker 1: time where we could really sit down and learn. We

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about the offensive brain power that the

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Speaker 1: staff brings to the table here. Doug Peterson, Mike Cooy,

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Speaker 1: Press Taylor, Jim Bob Cooder. Um, what have you seen

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Speaker 1: from that group? You talk about doing a lot of

501
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Speaker 1: the same things team to team, but they've got to

502
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Speaker 1: bring you some wrinkles and some some things that have

503
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Speaker 1: to get you excited about what's possible. And that's the

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Speaker 1: most exciting part as a player. Um. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: across the board on this offense, I would say that

506
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Speaker 1: we we've upgraded. Why receive a room position is great? Uh,

507
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Speaker 1: the tightened room position isn't a better spot than it

508
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Speaker 1: was uh last year talent wise, and you know those

509
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Speaker 1: type of players, those type of moves. It just makes

510
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Speaker 1: me excited just to work alongside with these guys and

511
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what what we could do with them.

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Speaker 1: I think we'd be remiss if we didn't ask about

513
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Speaker 1: Urvin Lawrence and what you expect from the young quarterback.

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Speaker 1: What you saw from him at the end of the

515
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Speaker 1: year with that brilliant performance against the Colts and and

516
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Speaker 1: what sort of a jump is fair to expect from

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Speaker 1: that young man. Uh. For me, it's just all about progress.

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Speaker 1: And we know as a quarterback coming into this league

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Speaker 1: last year in the situation that we was in, it's

520
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Speaker 1: not the easiest. Um, So having a little bit of

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Speaker 1: grace uh and knowing that and knowing that the second

522
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Speaker 1: year is really the year usually in statistically that guys

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Speaker 1: really made that jump and get over that hump. So, um,

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Speaker 1: that's what I expect, just progress and he's well on

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Speaker 1: his way. Um. I could tell that he's a lot

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Speaker 1: more comfortable. He knows how how things are done, and

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Speaker 1: you know, he's been a process. He set foot in

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Speaker 1: this building, so that's not really issue in the draft

529
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Speaker 1: is nine days away. I always think it's curious how

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Speaker 1: many guys pay attention to this. Look at mock drafts.

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Speaker 1: What's your approach to this? You do you research this

532
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Speaker 1: at all? Or whoever comes shows up, to be honest

533
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: with you, whoever comes just shows up. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching the draft scene seeing who's selected obviously

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Speaker 1: and whoever we select, Um, it's a new teammate. You

536
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Speaker 1: can't can't get ready can't wait to work with them

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Speaker 1: and and see what they bring to the table as well.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's pretty exciting. And tell us what you

539
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Speaker 1: do for fun if you will. In this off seam

540
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Speaker 1: you're learning a new offense, but I know you have kids,

541
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Speaker 1: hopefully spending some more time with them. What is just

542
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Speaker 1: your off season been like? My off season has been

543
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Speaker 1: full blown dad mode. Uh and training obviously that's pretty

544
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Speaker 1: much all I have the wiggle room for um and

545
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Speaker 1: and having a baby. But it's been great. It's been

546
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: very uh, humbling to to be more present, be around,

547
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Speaker 1: especially in the off season and just you know, take

548
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Speaker 1: a break from football and just focus on what really

549
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Speaker 1: the priorities are. Love that well, Chris, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining Jaguars Drive time. We appreciate you. Appreciate

551
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: absolutely much more to come here on the Jaguars Digital Network. Ye.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are future focused and ready for a new

553
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: look in join us at the bank this season as

554
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: head coach Doug Peterson and quarterback Trevor Lawrence leave the charge.

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Speaker 1: To lock in your seats, visit Jaguars dot com. Slash

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Speaker 1: tickets are called nine oh four six three three two

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Speaker 1: thousand but I'll say just I think it's important to

558
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Speaker 1: to just kind of learn from last year and always

559
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: not necessarily think about that all the times. You don't

560
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: want to think about the bad things, but you want

561
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Speaker 1: to use what you learned and not make the same mistakes,

562
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: especially as individuals as as players, like things that went

563
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: right went wrong. We all have to as we get

564
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Speaker 1: better at and for me, I learned so much, so

565
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's like starting over, because I'm I'm

566
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Speaker 1: thankful for those things I learned. I don't want to

567
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Speaker 1: start over, you know, I want to keep those in

568
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Speaker 1: my back pockets. So stuff like that. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a good way to look at it, and I think

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Speaker 1: guys are doing that. Loves that answer from Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was really honest because it could have

572
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: been very easy for him to say, you know what,

573
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Speaker 1: last year's stunk, let's just forget about it and move on,

574
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: but he didn't say that. Definitely a learning experience, if

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Speaker 1: you will. Boy, this gonna sound stupid. As as I'm

576
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Speaker 1: watching that, I'm thinking, Boy, I hope he's good, and

577
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: not just for the franchise or whatever. Everybody hopes he's good.

578
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Speaker 1: He he still has a chance, and his mental makeup

579
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Speaker 1: and his approach is so off the charts good. It

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Speaker 1: just feels like it's gonna be a fascinating year, almost

581
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Speaker 1: like a rookie year of Brian in seeing what he

582
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Speaker 1: really is. And it almost feels like we're back to

583
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: square one with all the hope, all the acts. We

584
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it, but way the mental makeup is right,

585
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Speaker 1: and I can't help but think that he's going to

586
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Speaker 1: turn it around. Well. They all talked about how he

587
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: was the total package when he was at Clemson, and

588
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't just the arm strength or his mobility or

589
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Speaker 1: or his desire to play. It was the way that

590
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Speaker 1: he approached being a leader unbelievable. He said things last

591
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Speaker 1: year that I had never heard Jaguars quarterbacks say. I mean,

592
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Speaker 1: he's got it. Maybe I should be a little bit more,

593
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Speaker 1: you know, um objective about it. But I don't have

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Speaker 1: any doubt that he's going to be really good. I

595
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Speaker 1: don't know that he's going to be Peyton Manning. I

596
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Speaker 1: mean I don't. I don't know that you can say that,

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Speaker 1: but I believe it's going to be really good at

598
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Speaker 1: the his what is the floor is really good. His

599
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Speaker 1: upside is outstanding. Yeah, and it helps when you hear

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Speaker 1: a press conference like that in such a straight and

601
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Speaker 1: everything like that. Well, quarterbacks so much mental and so

602
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Speaker 1: many fail because they don't have that. That gives him

603
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Speaker 1: the shot and you can't help but think with the

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Speaker 1: physical ability, it's going to be there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how he misses. And by the way, what he dealt

606
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Speaker 1: with last year, right, we all know that he went

607
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Speaker 1: to Mr Kan's bote in December. He was for a

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Speaker 1: young player to have to answer those kinds of questions

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Speaker 1: because you know that John was pointed with him. Even

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Speaker 1: if we don't know what he said, you know he

611
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Speaker 1: was saying, what do you think about this? And what

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Speaker 1: do you think about that? Well, most young quarterbacks are

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Speaker 1: just thinking about the I don't know right, what do

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Speaker 1: you think? Right? They're thinking about the game play not

615
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: He went through an intensity last year of fire on

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Speaker 1: the field and off the field at one point, and

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00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: that will only make him stronger. Yes, that man went

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Speaker 1: through a lot. You could write a book maybe one

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Speaker 1: day and we'll be reading. I don't think he'll need to,

620
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Speaker 1: but he could. John, what are you coming up this week?

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Speaker 1: We are starting the draft coverage Bucky Brooks and myself

622
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Speaker 1: with a position by position series. I would read that

623
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Speaker 1: if you're if you're Jaguars fan, because Bucky gets into

624
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 1: Jaguars specific things on that that you're not gonna anywhere else.

625
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: So Bucky Brooks and parentheses, John Oser, uh, Jaguars draft

626
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Speaker 1: coverage and Jaguars dot Com and Brian you're getting ready

627
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: to fly to Vegas here shortly? Yeah, getting ready? Uh,

628
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, twenty eight years here, have met a lot

629
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Speaker 1: of scouts, know a lot of people around the league,

630
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: and they're they're calling around you. They're picking up a phone,

631
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Speaker 1: calling everybody they can, uh, you know, just looking for

632
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: little pieces of information here and there. So I like

633
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: this last week before the draft because I kind of

634
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: feel plugged into a little network and and I'm just

635
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: hearing lots of stuff and it is just smoke. But

636
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Speaker 1: it's fun. This week is fun to hear those things.

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Speaker 1: You're a Vegas guy, Yeah, I am the furthest thing

638
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: from Vegas. I'm I'm a nash Vegas guy. I like

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Speaker 1: I like Nashville. Yes, a draft you'll still have fun, though,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you'll find some way something enjoyed. Thank you.

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