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Speaker 1: Hello friends, it's your friendly neighborhood podcaster here, Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Chuckers, Chuck Tran Bryant, picking from our past July thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. How bats work on baseball bats? Oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: These are the little fuzzy winged, rodent looking things that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are scared of, but I think

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Speaker 1: are super cool and super cute. Listen to how bats

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Speaker 1: work right now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W.

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Speaker 3: Chuck Bryant.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know we were podcasting about dolphin.

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Speaker 3: That was my bat.

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought it was a dolphin.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I was a bat.

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Speaker 1: Well, then why are you wearing your dolphin running shorts?

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Speaker 3: Has nothing to do with bats and everything to do

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Speaker 3: with Dan Marino. They probably still have those dolphin running shorts.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember the little uh like real runners. They

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Speaker 1: still wear those shorts, or maybe it's all spandex now

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Speaker 1: like super tight.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but they.

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Speaker 1: Used to be just like a little wispy piece of

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Speaker 1: but they were called dolphins. Well, I think that was

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Speaker 1: the brand I wasn't familiar I remember, but you know,

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Speaker 1: things were you know, the right gust of wind could

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Speaker 1: reveal sure, lots of things.

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Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about. Uh, like short shorts, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: run real flimsy one.

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Speaker 1: Real satiny, flimsy, wispy, and I think, uh, I think

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Speaker 1: they were dolphin running shorts. And by the way, this

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Speaker 1: this podcast is not sponsored by dolphin running shorts.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a sponsored by the Bats of America.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Which I always have liked bats, but after

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Speaker 1: reading this, I'm so much more in love with bats.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they need animals.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing and not just like I learned a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff. I kind of knew about the echo location

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, here's here's my impression of a bat echo locating

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Speaker 3: pretty good, huh because humans can't hear it. That's right,

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Speaker 3: I just did it. Really great, very nice, Chuck. If

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Speaker 3: you are on the fence, well not you, because you've

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Speaker 3: just stated that you're over the fence clearly in the

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Speaker 3: bat yard. Pro bat pro bats me too. They never

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Speaker 3: did anything to anybody on purpose, aside from some of

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Speaker 3: them sucking your blood while you sleep. Aside from that,

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Speaker 3: it's super rare. Bats seem to be pretty great animals.

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Speaker 3: And if you're on the fence about bats and you

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Speaker 3: want to go over to the pro bat side, go

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Speaker 3: onto YouTube and type in bat eating a banana.

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Speaker 1: It's very cute.

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Speaker 3: It's adorable. Yeah, there's also baby bat burrito videos. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're wrapped up in a blanket, not a tortilla. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of cute bat videos out there, because

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of cute bats there. Sure are, my friend,

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Speaker 3: And you might say, no, no, no, I've seen bats.

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Speaker 3: They are as ugly as pure evil gets. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: talking about what are called micro bats, the ones with

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Speaker 3: the crazy nostrils that actually make you me gag.

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Speaker 1: Oh really? Oh yeah, I think they're cute too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get it because they definitely look like literary ghules

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Speaker 1: and fiends.

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Speaker 3: But which makes you wonder. I wonder if fiends and

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Speaker 3: ghules were modeled after those types of bats.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I didn't realize it was so obvious.

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Speaker 1: Well no, I mean it would have to, because that's

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Speaker 3: Maybe no one had seen a bat and then they

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Speaker 3: made gargoles and like what a coincidence.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe a bat just died at the feet of

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Speaker 1: an artist one day and he's like, oh, man, I

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Speaker 1: gotta cast this in clay and put it on my

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Speaker 3: I know what you were driving at. Though. They are

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Speaker 3: cute in their own really weird uncanny way.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah so, but but nothing like the flying fox

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Speaker 3: No, and actually this article needs to be updated. Man,

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Speaker 3: So bats are there's actually, beats are the only flying mammals.

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Speaker 3: We should say they're very unique animals. Only flying mammals. Wait,

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Speaker 3: what about the penguin non flying and a bird? Oh

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Speaker 3: it didn't even come close, gotcha. Bats are mammals, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they're more closely related to humans than say, like

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Speaker 3: I think something like twelve hundred species of bats.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of bat species.

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Speaker 3: And they all belong to the order chirop Terra, which

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Speaker 3: means hand wing, which we'll get to.

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Speaker 3: And then bats typically are subdivided into two suborders. And

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Speaker 3: it used to be mega chirop Terra and micro chirop terra.

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Speaker 1: Is that not right anymore?

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Speaker 3: No, because science is specifically, like taxonomy used to be

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Speaker 3: kind of dumb. It was just based on appearance, and

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Speaker 3: then once the field of genetics came along, they started

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Speaker 1: Like this skunk looks like a raccoon, but they're not

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Speaker 3: Right, so maybe they shouldn't be in the same order

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Speaker 3: any longer. Yeah, this is the case with bats. So

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Speaker 3: it used to be based on their size megabats and

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Speaker 3: micro bats or mega chirop terra and micro chirop terra. Now,

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Speaker 3: because of genetic testing, some of the very small bats

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Speaker 1: But those are still suborders they are, but.

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Speaker 3: They've renamed them to megabats and micro bats.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I gotcha.

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Speaker 3: But so, for example, the long tongued fruit bat is

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Speaker 1: Whereas if you look at the flying fox or the

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Speaker 1: and they are huge, Yeah, like six foot wingspans on

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Speaker 1: just terrifies people. Yeah, because it looks like a cute,

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Speaker 3: Right, it envelops you and take you to hell with.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what evokes. I think is is a cape

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Speaker 1: that something would wrap around you and suck your blood. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Oh, I wonder if vampires were invented independently of bats.

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Speaker 1: most people are like, oh, that's super cute, and a

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a really good, sensible thing. Like bats might

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Speaker 1: they and we'll talk about this later, but they're so

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Speaker 1: comfortable with each other, they just huddle together, right, spreading

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Speaker 1: disease on one another exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean like epidemic disease didn't take hold among humans

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Speaker 3: we're still not elbow to elbow. Yeah, figuratively we are,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, however, about the raby scare, they are carriers of rabies,

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Speaker 1: half of one percent of bats are rabid, one half

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, well there you go. That puts it in

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Speaker 3: perspective because I like any raccoon I see. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: You should probably stop doing that.

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Speaker 3: They bite me a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she get checked out.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, yes, you said how many species about twelve hundred,

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Speaker 1: and aside from varying in size like you said that,

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Speaker 1: like we said, like little fox has that long snout,

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Speaker 3: So here's the thing, Like, I believe that even that

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Speaker 3: is really up for grabs right now. It's really exciting time.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, yeah, let's say generally speaking, then.

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Speaker 3: Okay, one of the other distinctions too, typically that divides

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Speaker 3: these two suborders, chuck, is what they eat. Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: micro bats tend to be carnivorous. Yes, so it includes

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Speaker 3: vampire bats, but vampire bats are not. Not all bats

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Speaker 3: just the insects if they're carnivorous, Yeah, like mosquitoes. But megabats,

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Speaker 3: the flying fox I think you said those are they're

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Speaker 3: just hippies. They just eat plants.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, like literally nectar and spread pollen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty great, like birds. Why is that funny?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is all right. Well, let's talk a little

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Speaker 1: really started here. Yeah, in researching this, the Geman word

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Speaker 3: I expected more from you than that, yeah, yeah, really, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I expected you to put on like a metal hat

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Speaker 1: That translates into flying mice. Yes for the curious.

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Speaker 3: And people will say that because a bat does look

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you also might think they're like birds because

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Speaker 1: wing structure of a bat and a bird, very different.

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Speaker 1: It Actually, if you look at a human if you

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Speaker 1: then imagine that there was a webbed membrane called a

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Speaker 1: How would you pronounce that pattagym, patti gyum, patagium.

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Speaker 3: I don't have one of those too.

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Speaker 1: Those are the wings, tagium, the flesh. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: The flesh of the wing if you held your hands

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Speaker 1: That is way more what a bat's wing that looks

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Speaker 1: like in functions like than a bird's wing. Right.

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Speaker 3: So a bird's wing has rigid bones in it, right, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Right. They have like small, withered little legs that they

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Speaker 1: We talked about the wing structure makes them able to

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Speaker 3: I think that's a word.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, So you can maneuver all day long, but

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Speaker 3: most bats have like perfectly good vision.

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Speaker 1: Sure right, old movies.

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Speaker 3: But now it's like there, it's done. Now. Wizard of

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Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, can you tell it's been a little while

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Speaker 1: No, I think it's great.

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Speaker 3: I can. It's also really hot in here, and it's

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Speaker 3: I don't think all bats do. The reason why is

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and smash it and then just like lean

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Speaker 3: There's some nectar. Yeah, okay. If you are seeking flying

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Speaker 1: and you boom your your voice out there, Please don't

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Speaker 1: come up with something better than.

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Speaker 3: That, better than Pink Floyd lyrics.

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Speaker 1: No, if it's in that context, then it passes.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, Wait, what would you recommend for an echo?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 1: Definitely not echo.

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Speaker 3: I think echo is great, it's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not hello. You know I would say, I would say,

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Speaker 1: That's what I would do.

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Speaker 3: You could also do cockcock cachaw, see a chicken dance.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that'd be good. So whatever you choose to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you make sound waves and it travels and

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Speaker 3: Basically bat's echo location is picked up, and they're still

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in an instant, like we don't have to think

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: So and also I should say, chuck, it's really good

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Speaker 1: That is not fun.

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Speaker 3: No, it shatters your life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So let's talk about the different parts.

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Speaker 3: With maths you and the canyons.

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Speaker 1: You know, location, they can determine where it is and

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Speaker 3: And again to the bat, all this is happening automatically.

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Speaker 1: That's right. The size is determined by the intensity of echo.

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Speaker 1: So that's a big, fat mosquito that just feasted on Josh.

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Speaker 1: So it's got lots of delicious of blood, delicious blood.

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Speaker 3: And they also use the Doppler effect chuck to determine

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Speaker 3: So therefore the frequency the pitch increases. If something's traveling

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Speaker 1: Why do I have feeling you're gonna get email to

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Speaker 3: I really practice?

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Speaker 1: But this one more thing. So that is how they

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 3: And also the actual sound that they're making when they

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00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: echo locate. A lot of bats fly around with their

440
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: mouths though, Yeah, and they look like they're just kind

441
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: of slack jawed yocles.

442
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

443
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it turns out they're making their echo location

444
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 3: squeaks the whole time. Again, it's just ultrasonic, which is

445
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: above the human threshold of hearing. Right, So it's squeaking

446
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: the whole time. It's not just sitting there with its mouth. Agate.

447
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 3: And some bats also, especially the microbats that have the

448
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: crazy nostrils that make you me gag. Yes, those actually

449
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 3: will echo locate and generate the sound through their nose.

450
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's why they look that way.

451
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: They're like little speakers.

452
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: Right, So, Chuck, I think we nailed echo location, don't you.

453
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: Oh yes, and the Doppler effect.

454
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: Maybe put that one to bed.

455
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: And we will talk more about bats, including their little

456
00:23:44,800 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: families that they stay in right after this, Chuck. Yes,

457
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: so you talked a little bit about bats and how

458
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: they love to huddle together. And it depends on the

459
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: kind of bat. Yeah, the bloodthirsty bats, vampire bats.

460
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

461
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: They actually tend to roost in small, little colonies or solitarily.

462
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: I believe, sometimes in like really hard to reach places.

463
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: Like the Lost Boys.

464
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like your fireplace.

465
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

466
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: I had to battle a bat once in a fireplace.

467
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, smoke it out.

468
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: Uh No, I didn't smoke it. I put on a

469
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: leather coat over another coat, gloves.

470
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: Recycled helmet before you do any like battle with nature.

471
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: A laundry basket in a broom and I lost. But

472
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: they they they'll be by themselves usually. That's a good

473
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: giveaway that you have encountered a blood sucking bat, the

474
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: hippie herbivore bats. Those tend to congregate enormous colonies, some

475
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 3: often composed of millions of bats.

476
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Millions. Yeah, pretty amazing. Yeah. Well you mentioned that they

477
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: do all this feeding and activity at dawn, dusk, and overnight. Yeah,

478
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: because they will get eaten by hawks and falcons and

479
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: things during the day and other predators too, so they

480
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: like to stay away during the day and hide out,

481
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: Like you said, the caves, dark places, sure, under bridges.

482
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Austin in a bit, right.

483
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: Hawks don't typically go into caves, they hang out in trees.

484
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 3: So bats go off and spend their days sleeping in

485
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: caves upside down, upside down. And you were saying earlier

486
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: that you were excited about talking about that, and I

487
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: understand why.

488
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I said earlier, the reason and

489
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: they hang upside down is not to look creepy. It's

490
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: because that's the way that they launched themselves to fly.

491
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 3: Right, and when they're sleeping upside down, they're able to sleep.

492
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: You would think that, well, yeah, if you're like hanging

493
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 3: on to something upside down, you get tired. Yeah, you've

494
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 3: got to really tense your muscles. Not with the bats,

495
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: you would if you were doing that.

496
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: This is the fact of the show for me.

497
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: I think you should take it.

498
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: Well, you're right, if I was hanging upside down, I

499
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: would not last very long because second A, I would

500
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: be clinched. Well, we couldn't even hang upside down because

501
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: we'd be using our hands.

502
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: And all the blood would rush to your head too,

503
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: and you just pass out. It'd be really uncomfortable.

504
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: That's right. But what would happen if we were to

505
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: try to do that, or like to try to do

506
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: a pull up? Let's say, huh is we would you know,

507
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: clench our fist around something which contracts muscles, which are

508
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: attached to your fingers by tendons. It's all one big connection,

509
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: series of connections. Right to hang onto something, to class something,

510
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: or to grab that coffee.

511
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: Cup exactly, and you're exerting energy by contracting your muscle, right,

512
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: that's right. With a bat, that's not the case at all.

513
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: No, their tendons are only connected to the upper body.

514
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: No muscle involve whatsoever.

515
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 3: Right, So when they're hanging upside down, their upper body

516
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 3: is pulling down on their tendons, which means their claws close. Yeah,

517
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: under whatever they're hanging from.

518
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's gravity coupled with just a reaction,

519
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: like a literally a physical reaction from pulling that bat

520
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: will make those claws close exactly.

521
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: So it requires no energy whatsoever.

522
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: Right or talons, I guess we should say, right, yeah,

523
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: but it requires no energy none whatsoever.

524
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: And bats will actually like they'll die in that position sometimes.

525
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what they do is they'll fly up to

526
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: this thing. They will initially clasp it with their claws

527
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: and then relax, and when they relax, they hang, which

528
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: makes them clamp down really hard. And like you said,

529
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: when if they die hanging there, they will stay hanging there.

530
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 3: And they can go to sleep. That's where they sleep.

531
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 3: So one of the reasons why it's so important that

532
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 3: a bat doesn't have to expend any energy while it's

533
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: upside down is because they're mammals, which means that they

534
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: are warm blooded, which means that they regulate their own

535
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: temperature internally, right, Yeah, which requires a lot of energy.

536
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: That puts bats at a particular disadvantage because they fly

537
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: and that requires a ton of energy. Mammals are not

538
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: designed to fly. To generate the energy needed to fly,

539
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: bats can do it, but to do it, they have

540
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: to enter what's called a state of torpor every day. Yeah,

541
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: And basically, while they're hanging upside down, they get super

542
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: super sleepy, and they get so sleepy that their metabolism

543
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: starts to slow, and in their internal temperature falls and

544
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: becomes about an equilibrium with the external temperature. So they

545
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 3: go from warm blooded to essentially cold blooded during a

546
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: single day.

547
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like David Blaine might, Yes, he was preparing for

548
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: like some weird stunt. Yeah, they're controlling their own internal

549
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: temperature and their own metabolic rate.

550
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: Right. So while they're doing this, when they're metabolism slows,

551
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: they're using up less energy, which means that they're conserving

552
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: it for when they fly later on, when they go hunt.

553
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: That's right, which is pretty awesome.

554
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. They can actually even hibernate some bats, yes, if

555
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: they're in a region where it calls for it, or

556
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: they may just do like birds and migrate to warmer climbs.

557
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: There's a lot of different bats and a lot of

558
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: different things that bats do.

559
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: Is that gonna be our little tag maybe this episode?

560
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk a little bat. It's called

561
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: this fact in fiction since that's what this section is

562
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: called in the article. Pretty original. Like we said, there

563
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: leathery wing in their weird faces and their resemblance to

564
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: ghouls and demons make them vilified. Yeah, but bats are

565
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: our friends because they eat tons and tons of insects.

566
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: Literally tons.

567
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the stat on that there's twelve hundred

568
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: mosquitos in an hour one bat?

569
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: That's a little brown bat in North America. It's the

570
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: most common North American bat species, twelve hundred mosquitos in

571
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: an hour, Which you say, who cares? There's trillions and

572
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: trillions of mosquitoes. It doesn't matter too well. There are

573
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: a lot of bats, that's right. There's a bat cave

574
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: in Brocken Cave or Bracken Cave, Texas that has twenty

575
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: million bats. It's a colony and every night they eat

576
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: two hundred tons.

577
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: Of insects two hundred tons.

578
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: And a lot of those insects are crop ruining insects,

579
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: So farmers frequently take their hats off and wave to

580
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: the bats. Hello, Hello, in something of a salute when

581
00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: the bats fly by.

582
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

583
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen a farmer do that to a bat? Yeah,

584
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: he's really.

585
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Be pumping round up in one hand and waving at

586
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: the fats in the other.

587
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: You'll bring a little two to your eye.

588
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: They are plant pollinators, like we said, they will go

589
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: in and gather nectar, and when they do this they

590
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: get pollen on their bodies. When they fly away, they

591
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: spread that pollen. So specifically they're pollinators of bananas, figs, mangoes, cashews,

592
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: and a gave. So if you are hammered on tequila

593
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: right now.

594
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: Thank a bat.

595
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: Thank a bat.

596
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: And you mentioned that colony in Texas in Austin.

597
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, under the Congress Avenue Bridge, very famous spot

598
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: to In fact, it's a big tourist attraction.

599
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: Now.

600
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've embraced so.

601
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: They're bringing tourist dollars in. Two. They pollinate, they eat

602
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: pest bugs, and they bring in the tourists.

603
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think some of them are uber drivers as well.

604
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: This is trying to eke out a living, yep, exactly.

605
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: What else let's talk about the guano. You know that

606
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: is it's poop. It's batpoop, and guano is a very

607
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: rich in nitrogen and is a great fertilizer. And not

608
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: only that, but at one point the US Army and

609
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: even further back, the Southern Army, the Confederate Army, I

610
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: believe they're called, used they collected bat guano to use

611
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: his gunpowder yea and explosives.

612
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: They extracted the saltpeter from it.

613
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: Crazy and I had no idea. Yeah, it actually extended

614
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: the Civil War because once all their their fortifications were destroyed,

615
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: they literally went and collected guano from bat caves to

616
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: keep making bombs, right or not bombs, but gunpowder.

617
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: And again it is also like a top notch fertilizer

618
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: that's still in use today, Like you can buy back

619
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: guano at the average nursery probably and not it wasn't

620
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: back quano, but burg guano two has been used and

621
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: wars have been fought over it. It's such an effective,

622
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: crazy fertilizer and power energy source that. Yeah, it's pretty interesting.

623
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: So go read fourteen ninety one or fourteen ninety three,

624
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: I can't remember. Talks about this.

625
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: You tail on the on the scarier side, though. You

626
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: did mention vampire bats. Yeah, and they do feed on blood,

627
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: but this article is keen to point out that they

628
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: are not bloodthirsty man hunters.

629
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: They will know they're man's stalkers.

630
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: They'll eat a cow, and when I say eat a cow,

631
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: they won't eat a cow. No, the u cow doesn't

632
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: even You know, it doesn't hurt the cow that.

633
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: Much, right, No, unless the cow contracts an infection or

634
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: something from it.

635
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

636
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, vampire bats usually need about one to two tablespoons

637
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: of blood a night, which it can easily get from

638
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: a cow without any harm to the cow as far

639
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: as blood loss goes, right, sure, And the cow typically

640
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: doesn't even know what's going on because the vampire bats

641
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 3: have very sharp teeth. Yeah, that don't really make much

642
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: of a sensation going in, and the saliva has an

643
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: anticoagulant in it, so the blood just kind of trickles

644
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 3: out and keeps coming and then the vampire bat flies away.

645
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: What's interesting about them, though, is they don't fly onto you.

646
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: They fly near you, and then they stalk you on

647
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: all fours, which makes it super creepy.

648
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: Even though I love that's a crawling bat with those

649
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: wings is a little.

650
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: Creepy coming to suck your blood. Yeah, yeah, oh.

651
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: No, it's not sucking blood. Remember it's an anticoagulant, so

652
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: it just opens.

653
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: Lapping up blood. Apparently. They also have a cool little

654
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: organ in their nose. It's like a heat sensing organ,

655
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: so they can find like where the blood is closest

656
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: to the skin. Then go wow, and then.

657
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Speaker 1: Go let's talk about reproduction for a second. They reproduce

658
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Speaker 1: typically only once a year.

659
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Speaker 3: Oh, bat reproduct.

660
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you thought it just like us.

661
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Speaker 3: I thought you're about to sing salt and pepper.

662
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Speaker 1: They reproduce typically only once a year, and that makes

663
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Speaker 1: them it's tough. They're some of the least producing mammals

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Speaker 1: in the world.

665
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they produce one baby a year.

666
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Speaker 1: Yeah, on average. Some can can reproduce more, Yeah, but not,

667
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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen that much. They're called pups, which is

668
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Speaker 1: very cute. A pup weighs twenty five percent of the

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Speaker 1: mother's body weight, which is remarkable.

670
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Speaker 3: Because they often nurse while the mother's flying around.

671
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that'd be like one hundred and twenty pound

672
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Speaker 1: woman having a thirty pound baby.

673
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Speaker 3: Just attached to her while she's flying exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they live, like we said, in large colonies, and

675
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Speaker 1: so it's not hard to find a mate. But once

676
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Speaker 1: the females get pregnant, they tend to form a maternal colony,

677
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Speaker 1: a maternity colony within the colony. It's pretty neat.

678
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And apparently bats are very altruistic, Like they've recorded

679
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Speaker 3: acts of bats going and bringing food back for bats

680
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Speaker 3: who are sick in the colony. Yeah, that's pretty neat.

681
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Speaker 3: Pretty you don't find that very often in nature.

682
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Speaker 1: No, not even with man right in many cases.

683
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Speaker 2: Yea.

684
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Speaker 1: So they'll form that little maternity colony, which is super

685
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Speaker 1: sweet because the men don't really stick around and help

686
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Speaker 1: raise the young. Evidently they just do their thing and

687
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Speaker 1: they're gone. And apparently the colonies are men tend to

688
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Speaker 1: hang out with men, and women tend to hang out

689
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Speaker 1: with women.

690
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Speaker 3: Anyway, it's like an eighth grade dance in there.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. So what happens is that the women care for

692
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Speaker 1: their offspring for a while, but they don't have a

693
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Speaker 1: whole lot of time to do it, about six weeks

694
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Speaker 1: to four months, and then the bat is fully independent

695
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Speaker 1: and can fly on its own, which is great. And

696
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Speaker 1: this is the second fact of the podcast to me, Ok,

697
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Speaker 1: the female bat is so smart they can delay there,

698
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Speaker 1: They can delay their fertilization based on the best time

699
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Speaker 1: to have a baby bat. Really yeah, So they can

700
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Speaker 1: have the sex in the fall and hold that sperm

701
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Speaker 1: and release the sperm to meet the eggs like six

702
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Speaker 1: months later in the spring. Wow, isn't that amazing. They've

703
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Speaker 1: learned to actually control their own cycle.

704
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Speaker 3: They have some serious willpower.

705
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Speaker 1: Well, they want to survive, you know. Yeah, they are

706
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Speaker 1: ultimate survivors.

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Speaker 3: You know, bats have a real problem facing them right now,

708
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: Chuck with white nose fungus.

709
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Speaker 1: I know, and this is sort of a well it's

710
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Speaker 1: not only a threat, but it's a bit of a mystery,

711
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Speaker 1: isn't it of Like why it's so widespread all of

712
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Speaker 1: a sudden.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's just spreading like wildfire, in part because bat

714
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: colonies are so huddled and close together. Sure, from what

715
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Speaker 3: I understand, it's just the ones that hibernate that are

716
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Speaker 3: having the problem because this white nose fungus it is

717
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Speaker 3: like it's a fungus that grows on their nose, and

718
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Speaker 3: apparently that itch makes the bats that are hibernating wake up,

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Speaker 3: and when they wake up, they're in big trouble because

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Speaker 3: an animal that hibernates has just enough energy store to

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Speaker 3: make it through the hibernation period. If they wake up

722
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: and blow a bunch of energy, like bringing their metabolism

723
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Speaker 3: and body heat back up to normal levels, and then

724
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Speaker 3: try to go back into hibernation, they'll starve to death

725
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Speaker 3: before the winner's over.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: So this white fungus grows on their noses and other parts,

728
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: but typically on the nose and wakes them up, and

729
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: then they spend all their energy and end up dying

730
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Speaker 3: or they die from exposure to these winter temperatures or

731
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Speaker 3: that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: That's awful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and apparently it is really deadly, like some hibernaculas,

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Speaker 3: which is like a hibernating colony, have like a ninety

735
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Speaker 3: to one hundred percent mortality rate when white nose fungus

736
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Speaker 3: gets ahold of them.

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Speaker 1: Holy cow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a real problem. They don't know how

739
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Speaker 3: to stop it.

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Speaker 1: Well. Another real problem is in places some parts of

741
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Speaker 1: South America when there's a rabies fear going around, like

742
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: an outbreak in the t down, they will bomb a

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Speaker 1: cave full of bats, blow it up. They will blow

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Speaker 1: it up. And let's say there's one hundred thousand bats

745
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Speaker 1: in there, and zero point five percent of those have rabies,

746
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Speaker 1: So that's five hundred rabid bats they're killing off one

747
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand, and then they're like, what's up with all

748
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: these mosquitos, why do I have malaria?

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Speaker 3: Well, either that or the bats they go after are

750
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Speaker 3: the ones they can easily find in caves, which are

751
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: the ones that pollinate. They're not even vampire bats, so

752
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: they're not getting rabies from them anyway. So they're killing

753
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Speaker 3: a bunch of bats that aren't spreading rabies at all.

754
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and leaving the ones that actually are.

755
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: Right, but most pollinating bats don't come into contact with

756
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: humans exactly. The vampire bats are the ones you would

757
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: have to really worry about catching rabies from.

758
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

759
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're not even getting the ones that are

760
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Speaker 3: spreading the rabies.

761
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: Just misinformation.

762
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: There's one more threat from humans that started to come

763
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: to shape and fruition but didn't fully Back in World

764
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Speaker 3: War two, did you hear about bat bombs?

765
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Speaker 1: Nope?

766
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: So there was a dude in the US who had

767
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Speaker 3: this great idea, and it was attaching incendiary bombs to

768
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Speaker 3: bats and then releasing the bats in Japan.

769
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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good idea.

770
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: So this guy apparently had the ear of and I've

771
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: read this in an Atlantic article. This guy had the

772
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Speaker 3: ear of Eleanor Roosevelt. And it ended up becoming like

773
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: an army research project that went far enough along that

774
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: there were mishaps, like an airplane hanger blew up because

775
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: some bats got released prematurely. A general's car blew up

776
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: for the same reason. And it almost happened, and then

777
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Speaker 3: they just dropped it.

778
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Speaker 1: What did Eleanor Roosevelt have to do with it?

779
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Speaker 3: Well, she was the first lady at the time.

780
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: Well, I no, but since when the first ladies not

781
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: could like work with education and nutrition, like how about bombats?

782
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: Eleanor Roosevelt definitely was seated at the right hand of

783
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 3: the seat of power. She was a sharp lady. Crazy

784
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: yeah bat bombs.

785
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: Well, she wasn't that sharp. She thought that was a

786
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: good idea.

787
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 3: I have the impression that she was doing it as

788
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: a favor, like getting this guy on trade.

789
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: Sure, the army, the war room.

790
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that's Eleanor Roosevelt. You got anything else?

791
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Nope.

792
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: If you want to know more about bats, you can

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Speaker 3: type that word into the search bar at HowStuffWorks dot

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Speaker 3: com and again go look up bat eating a banana

795
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Speaker 3: is so adorable?

796
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, or the little baby bat burritos they have like

797
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: a nurseries with a bunch of them, like nursing on

798
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: bottles and wrapped up in little swaddles.

799
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: So cute, very cute. And since I said adorable, it's

800
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Speaker 3: time for listener mail.

801
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this one of the ten people that

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Speaker 1: saw us perform in Washington Square Park. Oh yeah, the

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Speaker 1: ten yep, So they get in any one of you

804
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: if you email us, I'll read it on the air.

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Speaker 3: All of them are missing time.

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Speaker 1: Longtime listener and fan. Here guys to introduce my boyfriend

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Speaker 1: to the podcast as well. You saved us many hours

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Speaker 1: of boredom on row trips. Have to say, the recent

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Speaker 1: Florida was one of my favorites ever. We've got a

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Speaker 2: From that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I lived in New York City for

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Speaker 1: eight years now and spent a lovely summer days on

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Speaker 1: thought of a U boat rolling up there and depositing

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Speaker 1: German spies with plans to attack New York is particularly chilling.

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Speaker 1: My boyfriend, I attended your show in Washington Square Park

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Speaker 1: and your big live show in New York City this summer,

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Speaker 1: and the latter is why I'm writing. I felt you

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Speaker 1: should know as a result of the topic you chose

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Speaker 1: for the show, you cost me several nights of kitchen

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Speaker 1: clean up duty. Before the show, we were grabbing drinks

825
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Speaker 1: next door and decided to make things interesting. With little

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Speaker 1: bet as to what the topic would be. We came

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Speaker 1: up with six possible categories. We thought it could fall

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Speaker 1: into biology, geography, history, physics, current events, and.

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Speaker 3: Political social falling into three of those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're not going to reveal it here, by

831
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Speaker 1: the way, people, because we're touring that same.

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Speaker 3: Showy at least one more go around with.

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Speaker 1: In this fall. And so if you have seen the show,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna say this again and again. Don't come again

835
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Speaker 1: unless you just want to. Yeah, some people, you know,

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Speaker 1: like follow The Grateful Dead or fishing around see the

837
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Speaker 1: same show.

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Speaker 3: No, they play a different show every night, That's why

839
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Speaker 3: they follow them around.

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Speaker 1: Well, not completely different every.

841
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Speaker 3: Night and pretty much different that's impossible. No, I mean,

842
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: like they play a different show every night.

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Speaker 1: Well, they might alter songs, but there's no they don't

844
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Speaker 1: have three thousand songs.

845
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Speaker 3: They have a lot of songs.

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Speaker 1: These people see them hundreds of nights in a row.

847
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well maybe we have some stuff heads

848
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Speaker 1: that want to follow us around.

849
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they're all like driving around in bands.

850
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we mix our show up a little bit.

851
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: Sure, all right, I think that's a good public announcement though.

852
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Like, yes, what you just did?

853
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: Thank you?

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00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: So we scribbled these down on a napkin, did the

855
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Speaker 1: draft style selection, went back and forth, picking categories at

856
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Speaker 1: a feeling I was confident with my chances. For the

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Speaker 1: moment you announced the topic, blank, I knew i'd lost.

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Speaker 1: He had political, social, and current events. So that's a

859
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: bit of a hint. Yes it's not biology anyway, Guys

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Speaker 1: who really enjoyed the live shows and hope you come

861
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Speaker 1: back to New York soon. And that is from Natalie

862
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Speaker 1: Breitbach and her boyfriend Hagen.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, Hogen, h A G A.

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Speaker 1: N Hagen.

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Speaker 3: I work with Hagen, all right.

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Speaker 1: I would say it should be Hagen and if they

867
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Speaker 1: got married, he should take her last name and be

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Speaker 1: Hogen Breitbach.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one. That's a great name. It sounds

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Speaker 3: like there's umlats all over the place, all over well.

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