1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: All right, so welcome everybody to the Water Relief podcast 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: on the Fish on First Podcast Network. I'm your host, Noerburger. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: We are back with a whole new season. We will 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: chat with Marlins relievers and hopefully relievers from other organizations. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that in the near future. I'm very 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: happy to welcome one of the newest members of the 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Marlins Bullpen, thirty two year old veteran right hander from Danbury, Connecticut. 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: He was acquired from the Boston Red Sox in exchange 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: for a friend of the pod, Richard Blyer, on January thirtieth. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to Matt Barnes. Matt Barnes, 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: how are you doing good? 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: How are you? 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: I am doing amazing. Let's start with the trade, right, 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: What was your reaction, how did you get the news, 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: and what were your expectations coming into the season On. 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: The actual trade. Yeah, so, I was actually at an 17 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: airport in Las. 18 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: Vegas on my way back home, but we were sitting 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: in one of the lounges. 20 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: Our flight was delayed for five hours, so. 21 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: You're sitting there grabbing a bite to eat, and got 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: a phone call that said I was being trade to 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: the Marlins. 24 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: So what was your initial reaction? 25 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: Like, it's awesome. I mean, honestly, like when you when 26 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: you get into the process of you know, being dfaid, 27 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: you really have no control over where you go. Right, 28 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: it's kind of up to the team where they can 29 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: strike a deal or a trade or something like that. 30 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: And if they can't, then you go into the free 31 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: agency process, which. 32 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: Then, right you can kind of you can kind of 33 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 3: pick and choose and start negotiating with teams again. 34 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: But in that process you're kind of just just waiting. 35 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: And when I got the news that I was kind 36 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: of Miami, I moved to my WEF and I was like, honestly, 37 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: like that's awesome, Like we were pumped. I was like, 38 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: that's a great landing spot for us, especially being on 39 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: the East Coast always you know, played the East Coast 40 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: from the East Coast. Being able to stay here frankly 41 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 3: the same time zone is awesome for us, and very 42 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: familiar with Florida, had been to Miami a number of times, 43 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: knew that the team had some really fun, exciting talent, 44 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: and was was honestly really really pumped about it. 45 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: So in your time here already is already a good 46 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: spots that you've you've started to like in Miami, specifically 47 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: to hang out. 48 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: I don't, Honestly, I don't. I don't do a lot. 49 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: My wife and I have gone out to dinner a 50 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: handful of times. We went to uh Carbon when we 51 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: first got here and that was delicious. 52 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: Went to Komola the other night and that was that 53 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: was great as well. I mean, like I said, I don't, 54 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: I don't do a whole lot. 55 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: When I'm away from the field, I'm usually at the 56 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: apartment kind of hanging out. But it'd been to Miami 57 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: a number of times and and kind of enjoyed the 58 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: night life scene here before. I had spent time in 59 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: South Beach whether it was for a wedding or vacation 60 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: or stuff like that. 61 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: So it's, uh, it's fun here. 62 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: So coming from Boston, what differences have you found between 63 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: Boston and Miami with terms of like the clubhouse, the culture, 64 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: and just the general vibe. 65 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: I was gonna say first, if you didn't follow that 66 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: up with that, I wasna say we first and foremost 67 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: the weather. And I'll tell you what, man, you know, 68 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: you don't appreciate playing under a roof. 69 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: Until you have one man, is it nice? 70 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: It came back from that road trip and we had 71 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: to delay and the cancel and this, and now I 72 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: was like, can we just get home to it? Seventy 73 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: two and comfortable every game. When it terms of the 74 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: clubhouse and and and the vibe, it's really nice here. 75 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: I feel like it's a little more relaxed in a 76 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: sense here than it is in Boston. In Boston, it's 77 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: it can be very stressful at times, and it's it's 78 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: a tough city to play in. When you're winning, it's great. 79 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: When you're losing, it's hard. I mean just playing and simple, right, 80 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: and you're held to an incredibly high standard from the 81 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: entire city. 82 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: Right. It's not just an organizational thing, it's a city thing. 83 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: The clubhouse here, I think it's I think it's awesome 84 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: and I touched on a two seconds ago. But you 85 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: look around and and the pieces and the talent in 86 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: the direction that that the club is going, and I 87 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: think it starts from the top down. It starts from 88 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: some of the moves that were made in the off season. 89 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,279 Speaker 3: You know, it continues with with skipping the staff and 90 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: and the guys in the clubhouse, and I think that. 91 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: You know, we're a month of the season right now. 92 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: They're a couple of stretches in which I don't think 93 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: we were happy with the way that we played, But 94 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: I think when you look at the overall product of 95 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: what we put together the first month, I thought it 96 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: was a pretty pretty quality month of baseball. Got five 97 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: months left until the postseason and obviously plenty of areas 98 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: in which we can improve on, right I mean, it 99 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: doesn't stop. So I'm excited moving forward, and I think 100 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: I think that we can do something cool here I go. 101 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: I just mentioned you are very good at this. I've 102 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: you're making my job very easy. So it came from 103 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Family Park. It's a very hitter friendly park. It's about 104 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: the difference you mentioned the weather and now you're in 105 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,559 Speaker 1: the roof and everything. It's more of a pitcher friendly park. 106 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: How much does that change help you? 107 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: The biggest thing for me is I don't necessarily focus 108 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: on like the dimensions of whether or not it's a hitters 109 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: or a pitcher's park. The nicest part here for me 110 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: is knowing the consistency of what a baseball will feel 111 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: like in my hand every day. When you're playing an 112 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: outdoor stadiums and no roof. You're gonna have a day 113 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: where it's forty five, You're gonna have a day where 114 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: it's drizzling. 115 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: Some days it's toss some. 116 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: Days it's cold, right, And that affects the texture and 117 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: the way that the ball feels in your hand. Like 118 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: the ball when we were in Cleveland felt different than Atlanta, 119 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: which feels different than Miami, right, But every home game 120 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: here it feels the same because it's temperature controlled. And 121 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: even in Boston, like we would have days where I 122 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: mean the Northeast, they say, if you don't like to way, 123 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 3: to wait fifteen minutes, right. We had days where it 124 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 3: would be forty five or thirty five one day and 125 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: snowing in the next day it's seventy six and tony right, 126 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: And those are just elements that you have to kind of. 127 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: Deal with a lot of. 128 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: And the interesting part to me is a lot of 129 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: people say that families that hit our friendly park right, 130 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: but like, I don't know that it completely is right. 131 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: So like the monster, yes, obviously because it's short, right, 132 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: the fence is short there, and you have pesky pole, right, 133 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: But pesky pole holdly like a five foot stretch right 134 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: when you get out to deep right field, which is 135 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: like probably ten feet in off the foul line. I 136 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: don't know that there's a part deeper right field right, 137 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: So you have that until you get to probably the 138 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: where the monster ends, because it's still twenty foot wall there. 139 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: Like that entire section of the field is really big, right, 140 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: And the way that I look at it, the monster 141 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: to me, it gives and it takes just equally Right, 142 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: you get a high pop up that's hit three hundred 143 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: and sixty five feet, it's probably a home run. But 144 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: you get a ball it's hit one hundred and fourteen 145 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: that would go four hundred and seventy feet, well, hit 146 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: off the top of the wall and it's probably a single. 147 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: So like you get a hit. 148 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: Out of it, but given as many bass right, but 149 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: the damage is reduced because of that. 150 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: So along those same lines, you've pitched in almost every 151 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: active mas eat ballpark, special parks like that in London 152 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: you've met you there are only two parks that you 153 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: haven't pitched in, do you know, leagues, Yeah, I'm gonna 154 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: put you on the spot, but. 155 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: I haven't pitched. There's only one park I haven't been to. 156 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: Which one is that? Do you know the other one 157 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: that you haven't pitched in? 158 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: It's none out West, is it? 159 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: I pitched. 160 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: I pitched in Arizona, Colorado, San Diego, Anaheim, l A, 161 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: San France. I warmed up in San Francisco. I didn't 162 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: pitch everyone. I warmed up in San Francisco. I never 163 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: pitched in San Francisco. You have not I warmed up there. 164 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: That's right now that I think about it. 165 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: So you guys are going to Wrigley this weekend? How 166 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: much are looking forward and checking off that the ballpark 167 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: off your off your list and pitching in the friendly confines? 168 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's awesome. 169 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: I I I've had like twenty nine of them for 170 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: like three years now, right. And the Red Sox actually 171 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: went to Wrigley twice in the last two years, and 172 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: one year I think I had COVID and one I 173 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: was hurt, so I didn't get to do it, and 174 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: it doesn't happen very often, right, And this is before 175 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: I was traded to the Marlins and got into the 176 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: National League. So super excited I've heard it. It's an 177 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: awesome ballpark, great experience. Obviously, that the second oldest, right 178 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: behind Fenway. So I'm excited to see what it's like. 179 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: I mean, it's fun, you know, you kind of get 180 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: these routines and like you know where to go and 181 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: what to do in clubhouses, where like the staff and everything. 182 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: I don't know a thing. I know nothing about Wrigley. 183 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: So it's crazy that this far in my career I 184 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: get to the point where I get to experience a 185 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: park for the first time. But I also think it's 186 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: really cool to get all thirty parks, And I think 187 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot easier now for guys to 188 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: do because of the way that the schedule is built 189 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: where you play everybody. 190 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: But the first eight nine years of my career, like 191 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: you didn't do that. 192 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: I played with guys who it was hard to get 193 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: all thirty because even if you played right, because you 194 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: rotated the West to East and the central every year, 195 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: and even in that you wouldn't travel to each park, 196 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 3: So you would probably have to be in the league 197 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: for like seven or eight years at least just to 198 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: have the chance to do it. 199 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: So I still take two years if you're in the 200 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: league for the rules. 201 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: Right, right, So I'm at the public I hold it 202 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: maybe to a different standard because of that, then what 203 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: it'll be worth I don't know in three or four years, 204 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: but for me it's cool. 205 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. It will actually be my first time at Wrigley 206 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: two one again. So this is my favorite question. I 207 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: love asking League pictures. What is your ideal bullpens set up? 208 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: There's different ballparks, like in Tampa, it's completely Tampa. It's 209 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: never Tampa, it's underneath, completely enclosed. And for other ballparks 210 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: like here, it's kind of exposed. But like Philly, you're 211 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: right up next to the fans. In Toronto, you're right 212 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: up next to the fans. What's your favorite bull. 213 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: Toronto changed there? I saw videos, but that's interesting Toronto 214 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: this year? Uh okay, ideal. Honestly, our bullpen set up 215 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: here is really nice, and I think a lot of 216 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: that has to do with with the roof. Right, We're 217 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: never going to be exposed to bad elements, and an 218 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: open stadium like the Yankees one is really nice. I 219 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: think Atlanta's is nice. Really, there's only a handful of 220 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: things that we really need, Like I like to have 221 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: a clear, uninstructed view of the game, right, So Atlanta 222 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: or New York, you can sit up on the benches 223 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: and see over the fences and watch. I think that's 224 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: really nice. So we're not staring through chain len fence 225 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: fences the whole time. 226 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: You here. There's like a screen in front of the bullpen. 227 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: You got they have the. 228 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: Fans, so you can sit up on top and see 229 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: over the fences. Right. 230 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: I like to have enough space where like guys can 231 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: throw comfortably and we have plenty of room to move 232 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 3: around and get loose. And in these open stadiums, the 233 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: biggest one for me is having a climate controlled room 234 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: because it's either gonna be that you. 235 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 2: Don't know what you're gonna deal with that day. 236 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: Right, A lot of these places don't have Like family, 237 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: we just had a single bench and it's small. So 238 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: whether it's and the bathroom is like no bigger than 239 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: like this table, right, but it just is what it is. 240 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 2: It's what we have. 241 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: So when it's cold out, you're freezing because you're exposed 242 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: to it. When it's hot out, the sun sets right 243 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: over the third base line and you get torch with 244 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: the with the sun. So like the Yankees has a 245 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: really nice climate controlled room that you're in there with 246 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: the TVs and you can watch. I mean, it's the 247 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: high home now, but well. 248 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: Really they change that, Yeah, I think so, probably because 249 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: like a sign of probably a signing. 250 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, which you can't do anyways anymore because you have 251 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: PitchCom So. 252 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: How do you like PitchCom I love it so as 253 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: relief picture. You rarely come into the game with a 254 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: clean and manicured mound. I noticed during one of your 255 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: recent appearances it looked that you were extremely uncomfortable with like, yeah, 256 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: your landing spot on the mound. How much does that 257 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: affect your delivery? And how have you learned to adapt 258 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: different conditions of the mound. 259 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a mean, that's a good question. That's hard. 260 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: Like take a landing for example, right one, Mechanically I 261 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: was off a little bit anyways, Right, but I go 262 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: out there. We just had a rain delay. Obviously everything's wet. 263 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: The first pitch of the inning, the first inning, the 264 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: first pitch, my front foot slips and slides. Now for me, 265 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: that's always a really losing my front foot trendy pitcher 266 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: is obviously very hard for me. It like subconsciously triggers something. 267 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: So in eighteen I got hurt because my landing foot 268 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: landed awkwardly and slipped, and then I missed three weeks 269 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: because of a hip injury. So whenever I start losing 270 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: my front foot because I slip, it like subconsciously makes 271 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: me even more tentative because that's how I hurt myself. 272 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: But right, So, have you ever asked for the Browns 273 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: crew to come out and fix six amount? 274 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: Yes? Once in New York. 275 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: Was there any thought to doing it last week? No? 276 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: Because after that first one it didn't really happen again, 277 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 3: and then it happened a couple times in the second inning, 278 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: and I don't know it. 279 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: It was hard. 280 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean, most of it was truthfully mechanical, which I 281 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: was able to fix. 282 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: You know. 283 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: We came back here and I something so subtle and 284 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: so dumb, but I was able to fix it and 285 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: have since thrown the ball better. I didn't really think 286 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: about it, honestly, Maybe I should have, but it's I know, 287 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: hindsight's twenty twenty, right, But. 288 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: It's difficult. 289 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: You know, you're kind of dealt the hand that you 290 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: are with the mount which is why anytime I'm warming up, 291 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: like I don't want anybody to fix mountains for me 292 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: before I get on them, Like, leave them nasty that's 293 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: only mount I'm gonna see. I feel more uncomfortable on 294 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: a clean mound than I do in a dirty mound. 295 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: So but really, as long as the landing spot's okay 296 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: in solid I'm good. Like, if we've got a big hole, 297 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: I'm okay adjusting where I am on the rubber to 298 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: fix that. But most of the time it's it's fine. 299 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: I mean, they do a good job of keeping these things, 300 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: these you know, the mountains, well kept and manicured and 301 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: the clay and everything, so it's very rarely that you 302 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: run into like a big issue with a mound. 303 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: So now, ind the nitty gritty a pitchure you're using 304 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: a lot less this year. Is the change up? You 305 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: use it a little in twenty twenty two, but basically 306 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: gotten more rid of it twenty three. Is there any 307 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: reason why? 308 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: Not necessarily, so it's not a change up anymore. And 309 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: that's probably part of the reason. In the spring training. 310 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: We were throwing a change up in spring training and 311 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: it was okay, it was fine, But it's not like 312 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: a big it's not a big swing and miss pitch 313 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: for me, it's just kind of like a strike get 314 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: back into count. Occasionally, I can get some swing and 315 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: miss on it or we contact with it right. And 316 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: I was talking with mel about it, and he was like, 317 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: listen in he's that you're gonna be throwing. 318 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: He was like, you don't need. 319 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: To like get back in counts, right, He's more like, 320 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: you want swing and miss with all your stuff. Right, 321 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: if you're throwing late and closure tight games or whatever 322 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: you're trying to keep wearing reliever. 323 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: It's like you want swing and missed up. 324 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: So I said, all right, while you're still a splitter 325 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: and he was like, so we ended up going back 326 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: to a splitter. 327 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: So it's not a change up as a splitter now. 328 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: I didn't throw it a ton in spring training, and 329 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: the first time I actually threw it in the game 330 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: in like four years was in New York. Right, I 331 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: to the first one to make Neil for a strike, 332 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: and then I threw twot to the door that were balls. 333 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: I think it was. 334 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I was able to watch the game, I. 335 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: Thinks over so, but it's because it's a splitter, so 336 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: I haven't thrown it a ton, and and the curveball 337 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: is really good right now. So I get into these 338 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: traps sometimes where if the fastball and the curveball are 339 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: both working really well. I'm usually fine, like I really 340 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: don't have to use a third pitch. 341 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: So you're one of the few users of the knuckle curve. Yes, 342 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: is there anyone that you used to watch that inspire 343 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: you to use that pitch that you try and emulate 344 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: what went in too starting to use that pitch. 345 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: So when I was coming up to the minor leagues 346 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: as the starter, my breaking ball was terrible. I was 347 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: a fastball change up guy. And I remember sitting out 348 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: of the bucket one day in double A and we 349 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: were shagging and it was me, Brandon Workman and Anthony Bernado, 350 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: and Workman was like, have you ever tried spiking the curveball? 351 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: And I was like nope. So he had spiked it 352 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: and Renato spiked it. 353 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: So from that day on, I spiked it and started 354 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: messing around with it, and it felt much better, and 355 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: I was like, huh, that's interesting. 356 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: So I stuck with the knuckle. 357 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: Curve then and then for the rest of my career. It, 358 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: you know, when I first came up and then once 359 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: I got comfortable with the knuckle curb was probably it 360 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: was like anywhere from like seventy seven to eighty maybe 361 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: eighty one eighty two with it on a good day. 362 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: But it was kind of like loopy and slow and 363 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: wasn't great. And I don't spin the ball a lot, right, 364 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: I'm not a high spin guy. I think my curve 365 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: ball is like like nineteen hundred to twenty one hundred ish, 366 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 3: which is very low for a breaking ball. You got 367 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: Charlie Morton spinning at like thirty two hundred, which is 368 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: more sane, which is insane, right, But so then Kimberle 369 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: gets traded to the Red Sox and he spikes his 370 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 3: and him and I were catch partners for three years. 371 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: I remember watching him, he selling this thing like eighty eight. 372 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 2: I went to him. 373 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 3: I was like, bro, how did I You gotta teach 374 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: me how to throw this thing at eighty seven. 375 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: I was like, that's You're it's incredible. It's unhittable. 376 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: So I started working with Craig a little bit, and 377 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: that's when it went from like seventy eight to eighty 378 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: to eighty two to eighty six. 379 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna wrap fire questions just before we 380 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: wrap up the funniest. 381 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: Teammate funniest teammate. I think flow is really funny. 382 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: The team heype man. 383 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: It's probably Louis Arise. 384 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: Your favorite ballpark. 385 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: To play in or aesthetically to both to play in. 386 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: My favorite ballpark to pitching is probably Baltimore, and that 387 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: was even before they moved the ball back. 388 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: And your least favorite, uh wait one aesthetically your favorite esthetically. 389 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: Atlanta's a really nice ballpark. Know the moments Pans probably 390 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: don't want to hear that, but Atlanta's a. 391 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: Really nice when we're beaten in something. 392 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: It's hard on some of the West coast ones because 393 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: I've been out there. The new Texas Stadium is sick. 394 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: I really want to go out there and see that. 395 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: Minnesota Stadium is really nice. 396 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: I think I've been totally lot. Like Pittsburgh. 397 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is really. 398 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Cool, especially the view from like the Pittsburgh see the skyline. 399 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: The skyline on the back of Pittsburgh is awesome. I 400 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: think this. I think I think One DEEPO is really cool. 401 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: It's an underrated ballpark because of it's not you don't 402 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: really see many people here. 403 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: Right, but when you actually look at the ballpark. 404 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: It's really nice, really nice. Yeah, So your least favorite 405 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: ballpark to pitch. 406 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: To pitch in. 407 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 408 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: And it's probably because I don't throw the ball well 409 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: there historically, not because it's not a nice stadium. Probably Minnesota. 410 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: They have bad numbers in Minnesota. 411 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: So what's your favorite song? 412 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: I don't have a favorite song. 413 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: I feel that I don't. 414 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 415 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: I don't know that I have a favorite song. I 416 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: listened to so many different genres. 417 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: And who are you giving the oaks to. 418 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: On the team? 419 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? And the follow up is who are you not 420 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: giving the os to? 421 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: I think jazz would probably do a really good job 422 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: with it. And understand like a certain like, certain times 423 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 3: call for different music, right, I think jazz would probably 424 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: be pretty good at it. 425 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: Look at with jazz? 426 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: And who are you not giving the yaks to? 427 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: Um? 428 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 2: Probably Tanner Scott. 429 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: All right, well, this has been an incredible chat and 430 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: it's about time I let you go back and get 431 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: ready for today's game. Is there anything you want to 432 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: add before we end off? A message for the fans, 433 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: a shout out to your family or anything. 434 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 3: I don't think so say to the fans. I just 435 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: we appreciate the support. Keep showing up. We're working hard. 436 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: Trying to win his makeball game as possible for you. 437 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 3: So let's get out to Long Depot support the boys. 438 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Matt, thank you very much for joining me. 439 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: This has been in the Water Relief podcast on the 440 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: Fish on First podcast channel. Thank you all for listening. 441 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: We will be back in the very near future with 442 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: another Marlins reliever. Thank you. 443 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: Awesome. Thanks