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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio radio after watching it

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Speaker 1: all unfold, just how much he how bad he was,

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Speaker 1: he fell repeatedly and and didn't even meddle, and you'll

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Speaker 1: lost seventy some odd points technically.

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Speaker 2: And I mean obviously, hey, Lindsay Vaughn's injury, you know,

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Speaker 2: Inplix has been fun the last few days. And there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of condoms now in Italy, so I

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Speaker 2: know everybody's having a good time. But man, you bookend

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Speaker 2: last weekend, Lindsay Vonn with this Ilian Mallin and you're like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to the condom story as we go on,

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Speaker 3: because I have some theories here, but it's the.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to buy some off of eBay, as I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you. That's exactly what's happening, isn't. I want to

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Speaker 2: blue ones and I want orange ones, and I want

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Speaker 2: the purple ones because I went to Northwestern. I want

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Speaker 2: all the number.

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Speaker 3: One who's the supply chain person, who's the one that

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Speaker 3: decided that was the quantity that's just stupid.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, I got I gotta think

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Speaker 2: the person in charge of the condent that the Olympics knows. Hey,

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Speaker 2: whatever you think, you order ten thousand, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 4: So either someone back door ten thousand of them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wow, okay, that's that's an odd Okay, sure, yeah, wow, okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, Mike, Okay.

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Speaker 4: All right, I am a word Smith.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Sports Raven Mike seven o three pm.

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Speaker 2: The Family Hour just starting here at Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you either know or you don't.

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Speaker 3: It's just the idea that there there will be a

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Speaker 3: market for these. You will find some on the secondary

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Speaker 3: market at at either on eBay or different auctions places.

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Speaker 3: Uh souvenirs that you bring to your friends. Hey, check

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Speaker 3: this out. They gave me a bunch of uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: They said, had a giant bowl. They said, take what

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Speaker 2: Okay, so everybody gets one.

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Speaker 3: He means you got thirteen days of nothing unless they

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Speaker 3: can refill quickly. But oh carmon, he doesn't need any

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Speaker 3: beg give your share to everybody else who needs them.

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Speaker 3: You're just gonna buy baseball cards and wear purple shorts

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Speaker 2: You're not going out to hang out. You're gonna be

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Speaker 3: Well, everything would be predicated on me being in my

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Speaker 4: So we got to set the mood ten thousand of them.

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Speaker 2: They're just gonna stop knocking on the door. Hey, is

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon here? I thought I heard Mike Harmon is here?

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Speaker 2: Oh hey, alright, let's say, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you do?

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Speaker 3: But as you roll through the big Olympic story of

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Speaker 3: all of those euphemisms that we've heard here. The thing

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, sports can take your breath away, and

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Speaker 2: quad god can't back his way into a gold medal, right,

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Speaker 2: What if I do a couple of quads and I fall?

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Speaker 4: Well, but that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: So if suddenly you get in your head and after

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Speaker 3: much pressure the other way again in the postgame, it's like,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, just absolute tension and chaos is you alluded

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Speaker 3: I mean, I thought ven Doza wasn't necessarily a ninety

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Speaker 2: Like as an athlete, this is where the mental strain

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Speaker 6: on a bow? How do I time it so I

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Speaker 6: get a farewell tour? It's yielded a lot of first

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Speaker 6: world complex problems on how he tried to end his

437
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Speaker 6: career here, you know.

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Speaker 2: Now speaking of ending career before you more in the

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Speaker 2: All Star weekend, you know, we talked about Chris Paul

440
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Speaker 2: a few minutes ago, you know, retiring after twenty one

441
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Speaker 2: years in the league. And look, I know, you know,

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Speaker 2: you remember the big trade that wasn't the trade to

443
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Speaker 2: the Lakers, and you know, you think about it now

444
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Speaker 2: and it's almost like if the league had stepped in

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Speaker 2: last year and said, oh no, we're not allowing the

446
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Speaker 2: Mavericks to trade Luca to the Lakers. Like, with fifteen

447
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Speaker 2: years of retrospect to look back at, it seems even

448
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Speaker 2: more crazy and irresponsible that that was Chris Paul's career

449
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Speaker 2: was changed forever by who knows what you'll be able

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Speaker 2: to accomplish playing in the same backcourt with Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean the butterfly ef fector there is

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Speaker 6: insane because, as you may recall, Jason, they had a

453
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Speaker 6: you know, take back to Pyle Gasol Lamar Odom trade.

454
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Speaker 6: Lamar wanted out. They sent them as Dallas Hall as

455
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Speaker 6: a professional, but he wasn't the same player. I do

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Speaker 6: wonder if they got Chris Paul, maybe that would have

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Speaker 6: created a venum to get Dwight Howard a year earlier

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Speaker 6: intel of him opting into Orlando, and that there would

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Speaker 6: have been a better dynamic with those three players as

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Speaker 6: opposed to just Kobe and Dwight. But it's as ultimate,

461
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Speaker 6: you know, choose your own adventure type stories with Chris Paul.

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Speaker 6: But I think when you look at the totality of

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Speaker 6: his career, there have been so many what ifs, because

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Speaker 6: this player, I think is one of the best point

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Speaker 6: guards of all time. And there's a lot of external

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Speaker 6: things that explain why he never won a championship. There

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Speaker 6: were always ill timed injuries that came up either to

468
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Speaker 6: himself or a key teammate at the worst opportune moment.

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Speaker 6: He also navigated just, you know, very dysfunctional organizations. So

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying Chris Paul is blameless. He did have

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Speaker 6: a very Domeanian leadership style that elevated teammates, but also

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Speaker 6: alien teammate. Same thing with the organization, hence why he

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Speaker 6: and the Clippers started ways earlier this year. But the

474
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Speaker 6: good outweighs the bad, and I look at how he

475
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Speaker 6: just was such a great dominant player as a passer,

476
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Speaker 6: score and his competitiveness, and I think those are the

477
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Speaker 6: things that should be remembered as opposed to he didn't

478
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Speaker 6: win a title and all these crazy choos your own

479
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Speaker 6: adventure scenarios that explained the turbulence of his career.

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Speaker 3: He had a hell of a run twenty one years.

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Speaker 3: Talk a longevity and you know, if it so long

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Speaker 3: as these guys keep playing, I don't feel so old Mark.

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Speaker 4: But there's another one goes to the wayside.

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Speaker 6: Mike, Mike, you're young, You're like, so he just turned

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Speaker 6: like twenty six last week.

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Speaker 4: No, that's good.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you. They see there you go that way

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Speaker 3: to butter me up. I appreciate that. From the bowels

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Speaker 3: of the into it done. As we look at Adam

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Speaker 3: Silver and the sanctity that he cited with a five

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars fine and one hundred thousand dollars fine

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Speaker 3: for the tank athon.

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Speaker 4: That we've got going on. I mean, the owners just

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Speaker 4: laugh at that.

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Speaker 3: Lily had uh you, and they put up the tweet

497
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Speaker 3: mocking it. Hey, we won that game, so I mean,

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Speaker 3: what what can Adam Silver do? And is that the

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Speaker 3: prevailing talk uh there around the All Star Game?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's the prevailing talk as well as hey,

501
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Speaker 6: where do things staying with the Clippers investigation with aspiration right,

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Speaker 6: But there's a lot of things sumpack. But as a

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Speaker 6: pertains to tanking, I think it has been the talk

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Speaker 6: because of the recent find I think there's been eye

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Speaker 6: rolls on the fines themselves because teams view them as

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Speaker 6: luxury taxes. I talked with one team official with another

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Speaker 6: team just a few moments ago, uh, and they were

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Speaker 6: they were rolling their eyes on the Uh. The statement

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Speaker 6: that Adam Silver released with that where he was trying

510
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Speaker 6: to talk tough about the Jazz is shenanigans. And the

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Speaker 6: key word that we all laughed about was Adam talking

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Speaker 6: about them making over actions, uh, you know, in regards

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Speaker 6: to their tanking. So it's almost like the messaging from

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Speaker 6: the NBA is we're fine if you tank, just don't

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Speaker 6: be so obvious about it. Be a little bit more subtle,

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Speaker 6: and you know what, it's true. Like I think that

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Speaker 6: it's hit a different way because it's well before the

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Speaker 6: All Star break or you know, just happened before the

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Speaker 6: All Star break. Usually tanking moves happened middle of March

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Speaker 6: early April. I think the other thing is they sat

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Speaker 6: Jared Jackson Junior Laurie marketing for an entire corps. Usually,

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Speaker 6: you know, you extend rotations out a little bit more,

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Speaker 6: just sit them out entirely because of an injury, real

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Speaker 6: or exaggerated. I think that's what the thing is. But

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Speaker 6: to your point, what really will cut to the heart

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Speaker 6: of the matter. Is this they got to penalize with

527
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Speaker 6: draft picks. We see the second aprim penalties. If you

528
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Speaker 6: cross that threshelt, you can't find guys the mid level

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Speaker 6: or do you sign in trades that will help, I

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Speaker 6: think reduce this. And it's very ironic, guys, because the

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Speaker 6: play in tournament has reduced like some tanking for the

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Speaker 6: middle geer teams, and that's been really competitive. But what

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Speaker 6: it's set up is what we see now. But the

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Speaker 6: teams that aren't good and have no shot, they just

535
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Speaker 6: leaned on being really really, really really bad. And that's

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Speaker 6: not good when that represents a third of the NBA.

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Speaker 6: So it can't be a third of the NBA title contenders,

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Speaker 6: second tier of the NBA play and type teams, in

539
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Speaker 6: the third of the NBA lottery teams. There has to

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Speaker 6: be a better blend of parody there or else fans

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Speaker 6: are just gonna give it, you know what?

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Speaker 2: All right, So lastly, let me ask you this, all

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Speaker 2: your years covering the NBA, where you sit right now,

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Speaker 2: If I said, what does the NBA have a better

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Speaker 2: chance of fixing the tanking situation or the All Star Game?

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna tell me they have a better

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Speaker 2: chance of.

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Speaker 6: Those are two. Those are two Rubric's tubes that are very.

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Speaker 4: Complicated secret options see Naked Span the Game.

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Speaker 6: I think that they could. I think that they could

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Speaker 6: fix the All Star Game only because we saw with

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Speaker 6: the Playing Tournament, they all of a sudden give five

553
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Speaker 6: dollars million dollar bonuses five hundred thousand dollars for teams

554
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Speaker 6: that win the NBA Cup. And maybe that's what it'll

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Speaker 6: take for players to give a damn about the All

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Speaker 6: Star Game. The guys like, it's so ridiculous that that

557
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Speaker 6: has to be the thing. They already have guarantee contracts.

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Speaker 6: And I'm talking about this from someone that thinks, hey,

559
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Speaker 6: when a player signed to a contract, they deserve that

560
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Speaker 6: because of how much revenue they drive over the league

561
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Speaker 6: and those teams. But this should be about to do

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Speaker 6: good gesture for just putting on a show for fans

563
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Speaker 6: and giving thanks and putting on an entertaining, you know, performance,

564
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Speaker 6: not playoff type performance, but at least a performance that

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Speaker 6: shows that you care about the fans. So I think

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Speaker 6: that's more solvable because money always sucks, but it's sad

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Speaker 6: it has to get to that point.

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Speaker 2: He's at the All Star Game. It's Mark Medina, essentially

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Speaker 2: sports insider with us here at NBA Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Mark enjoyed the games this weekend and performance his performance.

571
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Speaker 2: Uh take it easy to say hi to Jalen Brunson

572
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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Jason, Mike. You guys should play your hat

574
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Speaker 6: in the ring for the Celebrity Game next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe just as well as he does.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I might be. But if Stephen A. Smith can run

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Speaker 2: for president, I might bube up on my hat in

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Speaker 2: the ring for that. So I might jump up a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I might.

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Speaker 6: He could be as vice president.

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Speaker 2: Yeah sure, Yeah, damn mar easy Mark, there it goes

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Speaker 2: Mark Medina. Uh grace time. Yeah boy, there's a Rubik's

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Speaker 2: cube of trying to fix take here the All Star Game.

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Speaker 4: See man.

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Speaker 2: Uh time now to find out what's trending in the

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Speaker 2: wide world of sports. Someone who's been called the Utah

588
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Speaker 2: Jazz of Fox Sports Radio. But by the time you

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Speaker 2: get to the end of his night, he is taking

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Speaker 2: his final updates. It's Steve Desager.

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Speaker 4: That was a pretty good one.

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Speaker 2: Actually.

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Speaker 9: NBA All Star Weekend is underway in Los Angeles. We

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Speaker 9: had the celebrity game not named MVP was Centered Taco Fall,

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Speaker 9: although he had twenty points twenty one rebounds, and then

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Speaker 9: Team Vince Carter won the Rising Stars Games MVP VGA

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Speaker 9: Edgekimb of Philadelphia. Among the Saturday events three point contests,

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Speaker 9: which will include Damian Lillard, who's injured for Portland, but

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Speaker 9: sure he's fine. Tomorrow NBA All Star.

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Speaker 2: Game hoist up shots seeing you know, get hoystchil.

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Speaker 4: Do you have to move from one station to the other.

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Speaker 2: They're going to bring the balls to him. It's fine.

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Speaker 9: Well, then I'm watching All Star Game itself is Sunday

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Speaker 9: at the LA Clippers Arena. Former Clippers guard Chris Paul

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Speaker 9: retired from the NBA after twenty one seasons. He was

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Speaker 9: a twelve time All Star Rookie of the Year in

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Speaker 9: two thousand and six. He played for six teams in

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Speaker 9: his final eight years college basketball. Staying undefeated was Miami

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Speaker 9: Ohio twenty five and oh ranked twenty third in the country.

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Speaker 9: It won ninety to seventy four against Ohio. U Wisconsin

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Speaker 9: was a home winner against number ten Michigan State ninety

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Speaker 9: two to seventy one. Eighteenth ranks. Saint Louis won easily

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Speaker 9: at Loyal of Chicago eighty six fifty nine. The NHL

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Speaker 9: is off for the Olympic Break. Canada one today five

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Speaker 9: to one over Switzerland. The NHL resumes its schedule on Wednesday,

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Speaker 9: the twenty fifth. The US men had opened with a

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Speaker 9: win on Thursday. Saturday, the Americans faced Denmark. Than Sunday,

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Speaker 9: USA against Germany. US women's hockey continues to dominate, advancing

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Speaker 9: to the semi finals, beating host Italy six nothing. American

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Speaker 9: Ilia mellen And finished eighth in men's figure skating after

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Speaker 9: falling twice in the free skate finale.

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Speaker 4: To golf at Pebble Beach.

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Speaker 9: Ax Sha Battia is tied for the lead after a

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Speaker 9: second round sixty four. Ricky Fowler is one shot back.

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Speaker 9: The Big Ten will propose a twenty four team football playoff,

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Speaker 9: which would eliminate the conference title games. It's still a

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Speaker 9: twelve team playoff in this coming year. The Big Ten

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Speaker 9: wants a twenty four team playoff to start no later

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Speaker 9: than twenty twenty nine. The Diamondbacks are re signing pitchers

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Speaker 9: at Gallon to a one year deal. NASCAR's Daytona five

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Speaker 9: hundred this Sunday on Fox TV.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Negas Stevo. The Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 2: my best friend Mike carbon Steeves. Now two updates into

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Speaker 2: the night. He's got two left. I expect a good

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Speaker 2: one at nine thirty. But that last one one, Yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna scores are gonna be wrong. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a short update. That's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: You mean, he's gonna be healthy and he's just gonna

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Speaker 3: sit there while the yeah music rules, is that what

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Speaker 3: you're Yeah, say.

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Speaker 2: Steve, don't you want to talk and say anything? Nah?

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Speaker 4: Nah, no, no, no, management dude told you.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Coming up next evidence that Hey, you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't think we're making the right argument. Wait, the NCAA

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Speaker 2: Basketball tournament expanding. No, no, no, how long until the

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Speaker 2: NCAA Football Playoff is as big as the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 2: We got a big story about that next, Chason and

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Speaker 2: Mike Fox.

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Speaker 7: listen live.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Hello, Welcome inside

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Speaker 2: our three The Jason Smith Show. With my bass friend

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon Happy Valentine's Day. It is It is now

656
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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day on the East Coast. Happy v Day. You

657
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: know a little known fact, dear nor Me. Yeah, I never,

658
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: you know, just because I was talking about this with

659
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Speaker 2: Ty Shirt the other night.

660
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Speaker 4: Stop putting, huh.

661
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Speaker 8: I'm telling people we talk about in the streets.

662
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Speaker 2: I never in my life had a Valentine's Day where

663
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: I was dating someone until I dated Pam. Yeah, she

664
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Speaker 2: was the first Valentine. Just because the way my life

665
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: went dating wise, I just was never dating somebody on

666
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: a Valentine's Day. Like I think there are probably a

667
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: couple of girls where I was like casually seeing, but

668
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: not to the point where it's like, hey, Valentine's Day romantic,

669
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Speaker 2: you know, let's you know, with presence and let's go

670
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: away and all this kind of stuff. Now. Never never

671
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 2: was really dating a girl that you know, we went

672
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: out and celebrated the day together together until I until

673
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: I started dating Pam. And now we've had all the

674
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: Valentine's Days since.

675
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: And there was music and one of the roses then

676
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: tell me, yeah, exactly, until there was you. No, that's

677
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful story. I have to

678
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: ask how much of that was strategicy because you could

679
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: get out of buying the chocolates, roses, expensive dinners, and

680
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: potentially some jewelry.

681
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: Dude, I know, Okay, this is I this strategicy is

682
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: a good word. Is There was a guy I worked

683
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: with in high school in the supermarket and twice now,

684
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: so like I worked in the supermarket for two years

685
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: in high school, then I graduated, went to college, came

686
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: back and worked. But while I was junior and senior

687
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: in high school worked supermarket. There was a guy I

688
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: worked with. It had a girlfriend who loved and loved

689
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: and loved and loved him and both times and and

690
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: she and and day one and like he told me

691
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: they would dated for like probably two or three years

692
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: before I started working there, and I knew him, and

693
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: like every Valentine's Day they would just go nuts and

694
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: spend so much money on each other and it was

695
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: like ratching it up to the point where she was

696
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: like they were like spending like five hundred to one

697
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on each other for Valentine's Day, and he

698
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to do that. Both Valentine's days,

699
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Speaker 2: like right right beginning of February. They broke up two

700
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: straight Februaries. They broke up and got back together like

701
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Speaker 2: sometime in early March, like and I know he broke

702
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: up with her, just we didn't have to spend like

703
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars on stuff for Valentine's for her.

704
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, you can't fault a good strategy one

705
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: of the show mantras for many years, and obviously they

706
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: were both in on the joke. Either that or they

707
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: went and found Valentines from somebody else on a much

708
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: cheaper scale. Or they cruised the bars looking for forlorn lovers,

709
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: scorn lovers and people just looking for a one night

710
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Speaker 3: of passion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe, like the second time, because they

712
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: broke them and got back together both times. Like they

713
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: broke up like January, beginning of February, got back together

714
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: beginning of March, dated data dated all the way through,

715
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: broke up again end of January, got back together beginning

716
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Speaker 2: of March. I wanted to go, she's not seeing this pattern,

717
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: She's not seeing this at all, Like okay, all the.

718
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Speaker 3: You know, tell me those crazy kids stayed together forever.

719
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Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't know, man, I've got I see.

720
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Speaker 2: You don't even know how the story ended. They might

721
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: have done that a third time. Hey, this was it

722
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: was part of the kink. This is the best part. Wow, Harmon,

723
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: you are just full of the double entendras tonight.

724
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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 2: I like to think it's more of a Hey. I

726
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: leave it up to you to decide. Are you a

727
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: positive person and you think that, hey, they worked everything out,

728
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: they stayed together, and they're together right now and they're

729
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: that couple. And when Harry met Sally, I stayed on

730
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: the elevator twenty extra floors just to talk to her.

731
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: Or are you a negative person thinking they probably broke up,

732
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: cheated on each other again, and they were done, and

733
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Speaker 2: they fought, and then she drank poison and he thought

734
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: she was dead but he wasn't, and so he drank poison.

735
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: And the money you get upset? Are the capulets get upset?

736
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: And there's a big brawl with everybody on the It's

737
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's West Side Story brawling. And

738
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Speaker 2: I'm mixing all these plays now, like.

739
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: All the plays and movies together. That's a great amalgam

740
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: right there.

741
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did. I think you could. Really, I

742
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: think you could do a match with Romeo and Juliet

743
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: and West Side Story. I think I think you could

744
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: do that. I think that's something you could. I mean no,

745
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: I don't mean like, hey, a I could do it

746
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: in like ten seconds, like here's a Tom Cruise Brad

747
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: pittfight that Wow, is gonna put all everybody out of

748
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: business soon. No, I mean like you could come up

749
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: with something like that, I think, and write it.

750
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: No, I think you can get to work on that.

751
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 3: I think that's what you might do in about two

752
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: hours time. I mean you might decide that that's your

753
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: next great contribution to society. And how about impresco A's

754
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: So what went on them? Did they stay together and

755
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: did they break up?

756
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: Tight shirt? What do you think?

757
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 4: You're shaking your head.

758
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 8: I'm still thinking about the fact that I'll say no

759
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 8: to that. But Jason tripped me out with his conversation.

760
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 8: Because Jason puts my game out there, I'll put his

761
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 8: game out there. Jason tripped me out when he said that.

762
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 8: I asked him, I was like, so before Pam, like,

763
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Speaker 8: what was your longest relationship? He said, like six to

764
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 8: seven months? Okay, that's incredible.

765
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 4: And that was.

766
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Speaker 2: Probably one relationship that was six seven months, like all

767
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: the other ones were like three months. Yeah, yeah, See.

768
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Speaker 2: The thing was I could I'm see not that not

769
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: to say that I'm I'm I'm the best boyfriend in

770
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Speaker 2: the world, the best person in the world. I'm not

771
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying I'm

772
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 2: a hero. No, but like I knew very quickly that Okay,

773
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: if this is a relationship that you know, I really

774
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: like the other person, I want to stay in it,

775
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: or you know what, I can't just fake it and

776
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: and date, you know casually. When the longer we date,

777
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: the more feelings have to happen, and I'm like, you

778
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: know what, I I just can't. So, like after like

779
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: three months or so, if I wasn't feeling the same way,

780
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: I would say, I would say, okay, you know what, Yeah, yeah,

781
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't I don't feel the same way,

782
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: or find a way to, you know, have a breakup

783
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: that worked for that worked for both of us. Now,

784
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: this is not all the breakups. A lot of breakups. Hey, hey,

785
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: we've been together three months. I love you. Yeah, No,

786
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: that's not happening for you. Man, We're done. Oh okay, sorry,

787
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: I'll just go watch the Mets.

788
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, was it on the cycle of

789
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: opening day for the Meds or opening day either the

790
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: end of October, well Christmas Day for the Knicks.

791
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I told you the story about the

792
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: girl I broke up with because of the Jets. I

793
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: will tell you that story.

794
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think so. Hey, Happy Valentine's Day.

795
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: Get those breakup stories in and you're n eighty or

796
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: lass on Twitter at how Nebraska had to this.

797
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: This is great, Tyshirt. No music. The story is too good.

798
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 2: The story is just too good. So my music. No no, no, no,

799
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: no no no, no, no no. You can't take away from

800
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: the story. Can't take away from the story.

801
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: I really thought it was gonna Jason said, away from it.

802
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: Here's how we broke up because I had her in

803
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: the down at the bottom of a well and she

804
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: got my dog. I had to trade the dog for

805
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: her freedom. And that's what it is.

806
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 4: She flicked up.

807
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: It puts the lotion in the basket.

808
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 10: When he says, it does what it's told or what

809
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 10: or we're not going to see Shawshank redemption later, we're

810
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 10: not going to the ten o'clock showing.

811
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: So my senior year of high school sorr, sorry, senior

812
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: year in college. I'm dating this girl and it's okay, right,

813
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: Like it's one of those where I think, you know,

814
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: we're dating casually, but how long is it gonna go?

815
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: And I go home for winter break. Now obviously winter

816
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: breaking college is like a month long. So hey, I'm

817
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: going I'll be back, but we'll talk. You know, I

818
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: think I was going home for like three weeks, right,

819
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: She's we I was in Syracuse and I went back

820
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 2: to Staten Island where my family was. So we go back.

821
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: We talk a couple of times, and and she's like, oh,

822
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: when are you coming back? And I want to see you,

823
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: like right when you come back? What are you doing?

824
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 2: Why don't you come over right when you get back?

825
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: And I'm going okay, And I was really just kind

826
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: of feeling a little suffocated after these conversation and I'm like, okay,

827
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: it was kind of casual, and I could feel like

828
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: maybe she's feeling a little bit different, So I think this,

829
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: I think this needs to be it. But you know what,

830
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: we'll have the conversation when I go back, you know,

831
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: when I go back, you know, to Syracuse in January

832
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: or later in January. So I'm watching. It's week sixteen,

833
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two, so ninety one season. The Jets need

834
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: to win to make the playoffs. Okay, they need to

835
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: beat the Dolphins in the final week of the regular season.

836
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: So huge game, you know, four o'clock game. I'm you know,

837
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: I've been looking forward to this all week, Like, we

838
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: win this game, we're making the playoffs, and it's a

839
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: big get right. I'm watching the game with my grandfather,

840
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 2: my uncle, like a big deal. Right. We're watching the game,

841
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: and there's two minutes left in the game, and the

842
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: Jets get the football at the beginning of the fourth quarter, sorry,

843
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: beginning of the fourth quarter, and the phone rings. Now

844
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: this is before cell phone, so it rings in the house.

845
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not answering it. I don't get up

846
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: for those midnight feeding someone else can answer the phone. Wow,

847
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: So I don't answer the phone. My grandmother answers, and

848
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: I hear her say I say, he say hello, hold

849
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 2: on a second, Jay, because she sounded like Edith Punker,

850
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: and she goes Jay, I said, yeah, your girlfriend's on

851
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: the phone. I'm not gonna say her name. I don't

852
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: need to that. She had a girlfriend's on the phone.

853
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: I go, it's the fourth quarter of the game. She

854
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: knows I'm watching the game, okay, because she was a

855
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: big football fan too. Her team was the Redskins, right,

856
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, you know I'm watching this game, right, okay,

857
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: all right, fine, so you get the fun. I go, Hey,

858
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: what's going on? Oh? Not that I was seeing what

859
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: you were doing. I'm like, okay, I'm watching the game.

860
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: I'll call you back when I'll call you back when

861
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: it's over. And she was like, okay, okay, all right,

862
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: there was something I wanted to tell you, and you know,

863
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: I can't think of it. And I'm like, ok it's hey,

864
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: I'll call you after the game, right, as soon as

865
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: the game's over, I'll call you. I'm not going anywhere,

866
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: ill cart the game, all right, great? Hang up. Two

867
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: minutes left in the game and the Jets get the

868
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: football back and they drive down the field and Roula

869
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: Legray is their kicker. Okay, Now this story actually has

870
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: a great ending to it. Roula Legray is their kicker

871
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: and he was a really good kicker in the NFL

872
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: for a bunch of years, and he's there's like six

873
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: seconds left in the game and he's got to make

874
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: a fifty one yarder to win the game for the Jets.

875
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, he's a fifty one

876
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: yard like this is you know in the early nineties,

877
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: how many guys are gonna hit fifty yarders? Right? You know?

878
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: Hardly any So there's six seconds left time out. He

879
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: gets ready, he's coming on the field and the phone

880
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: rings and none of us answered. My grandmother answers the phone, Hello, Jay,

881
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: phone for you, and I go, who is it? She goes,

882
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: it's your girlfriend calling. I'm like, what is she called?

883
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: So he's fun. I go hello, I said, Hey, what's

884
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: going on? She goes, Oh, I remember what I wanted

885
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: to talk to about. I go, but I told you

886
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: i'd call you after the game. And I look up

887
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: and a leg Ray is making a fifty yard field goal.

888
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: The Jets win. My grandfather stands up and claps. My

889
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: uncle is hooting and hollering, and I'm on the phone

890
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: and I'm like, we're done, we are done. And I

891
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: just said, you know what, I will call you next week.

892
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: I will call you next week and I hang up

893
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: the phone and that was I was like, I was done,

894
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 2: like and I was. I was so mad because I missed.

895
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: I missed one of the best mom How many times

896
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: I get to see the Jets go to the playoffs,

897
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: right even at night in the nineties, and I missed

898
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: the moment of a Leg Gray kicking a fifty yard

899
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: field goal to win the game. We go to the playoffs.

900
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: I'm so excited, but I miss it. My grandfather goes,

901
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 2: what the hell to answer the phone? Why did you say?

902
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: Call it back and go I tried, pop. It was

903
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 2: only a couple of It was only on the phone

904
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: for like thirty seconds. With thirty seconds a Leg Ray

905
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: kicks the field goal with missus, I was like, oh,

906
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: come on, man, And I was so mad at that moment.

907
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: I was like, we're done. We're done. I'm done seeing

908
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: her and we went back. I went back to Syracuse

909
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: and I said, yeah, I think we're on a different path.

910
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: I think we're done. But really that was the final straw,

911
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: was her call calling me back the final seconds to

912
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: that Jet game where I was so mad and I

913
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: had such a bad memory of that game. My whole

914
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: life because again, how many times did Jets make the playoffs?

915
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: But like early in my run with ESPN when we

916
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: were doing Monday Well, I would come on the air

917
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: late night after Monday Night Football and Monday Night Football

918
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: was on, and we would have RAOULA Legray on the

919
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: show because he was doing he was the analyst for

920
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: Fox Sports for ESPN Deportes. So I was like, yeah,

921
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: I'd love to have rule Legray on and talk about

922
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: the game coming on after right because the game would

923
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: be over at midnight. My show was just going on

924
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: the air. We'll have him on the beginning of the show.

925
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: First time we had him on, I said, l I

926
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: gotta tell you I'm a Jet fan and I want

927
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: to thank you so much for Week sixteen against the

928
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: Dolphins in nineteen ninety one, he goes fifty one yards.

929
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: He was He said, thank you so much for bringing

930
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: that up on me. Anytime you want me on the show,

931
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: I'll have you anytime you want me. And that was

932
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, So now I came full circle on

933
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: that moment and he was really happy, happy to be on, excited,

934
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, so now I have a

935
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: good memory of that, because up until then my memory

936
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: was just I really missed enjoying the kick and I

937
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: missed actually seeing him, seeing actually the play go on

938
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: because she called me on the phone.

939
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: Did she go on to great things and happiness ex relationship?

940
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: She got married? I think she got married and had kids.

941
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: I think I mean after I left Syracuse and stuff,

942
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: she went, you know, but yeah, yeah, yeah, so I

943
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: mean it worked every day.

944
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 4: The post was why was Graham's yelling at you?

945
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: Grandma answered the phone, Yeah you.

946
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: Do, and let it ring an why it go believe

947
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: it or not? Isn't at all? Well we didn't have

948
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: a message at the beat.

949
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: We didn't have an answering machine. Okay, so up the volume,

950
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: so is at the top of the phone. It would

951
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 2: just it would have just rang like thirty times.

952
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 4: Well that's life, you know, my ring ten.

953
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: You'd get the message, no matter how how slowly Grandma

954
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: or Grandpa might have been moving.

955
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she doesn't know who's calling she It could

956
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: be one of her kids. It could be my mom,

957
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: It could have been you know, my aunt.

958
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: Whatever could have waited, you know, it.

959
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: Could have been any She doesn't know. But she had

960
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: answers to want to hear it ringing a thousand times,

961
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: thousand times.

962
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean there there.

963
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: It is psychologically crushing sometimes when the phone continues to ring.

964
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: As a guy who suddenly gets calls every day for

965
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: the loan I'm supposed to be finishing up from ninety

966
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: seven different municipalities.

967
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: There's a Valentine's Day story for everybody. That was fantastic

968
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 2: right there.

969
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: And it all came back to the Jets and of

970
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: all people, Raoul Alegrad.

971
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 4: That's it.

972
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send out val on Dine's cards next year

973
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: with a picture of Rahul a legray out of And you.

974
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: Know, I remember the first time I told Pam that story.

975
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: She goes, wow, you think you were a little harsh.

976
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: I said, it got me to you. It got me.

977
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: Why are you worried about it got me to you?

978
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: Where we're here? I maybe I wouldn't be there, Maybe

979
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: we would have gone back and I would have fell

980
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: in love, and who knows bever would have met. That's

981
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 2: got me to you. You got to you gotta be happy.

982
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: Well maybe that was just some text of what Pam

983
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: was saying. How did you judge the toner tenor? And

984
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: if a leg Ray doesn't make the kick, maybe I'm

985
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: not as upset. Maybe I'm like, ah, great, yeah, no,

986
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: I can talk to you. Yeah, a Legray missed the kick.

987
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: What's up? What's going on? And maybe I wouldn't have

988
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: been as mad, but a leg Ray made the kick,

989
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: and that got me to Pam, Like, think of that

990
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: butterfly effect. Forget about Chris Paul going to the Lakers

991
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: if that happened fifteen years ago, think about this butterfly effect.

992
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 4: And get you to Pam on a made field goal

993
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: Like that doesn't make sense.

994
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: Well, you know, sports is unpredictable. You never know.

995
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: You took away in my highlight of this little man

996
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: kicking a fifty one yard field goal.

997
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: So I'm breaking up with you.

998
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: To quote the great Tim Allen under the the guys

999
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: of Buzz light Year, you are a strange, sad little man.

1000
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: I wonder if she if you know, in a bar,

1001
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: like at some point, like a couple of years later,

1002
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: like a scene from a movie where you know where

1003
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: she's smoking at the bar and someone says, hey, what's

1004
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: your best breakup story? She goes you ever remember the

1005
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: kicker Rula leg Ray? You dated him? Nah, broke up

1006
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: with the guy because of him.

1007
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: Pulls out a training card like Bob Costas and his

1008
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: Mickey Mantle pulls it out of her purse.

1009
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 4: This guy, this guy changed my life forever.

1010
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: Tell me that story that takes the big long drag

1011
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: off the cigarette that that you only hear in the movies.

1012
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: And then she puts it down and go. Week sixteen,

1013
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one, jets are eight and seven.

1014
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: You know the bartenders playing a stand up bass in

1015
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: the background.

1016
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it sounds like a story from a Sorkin movie.

1017
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: Whoa in a great walk and talk story that was Ah,

1018
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: that's great. There you go, Happy Valentine, Yeah, happy Valentine.

1019
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: Exit out about a Fresca exit Swallen Dome. So hey,

1020
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 2: we wanted to take a little bit time out to yeah,

1021
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: celebrate the big day. But coming up next, the biggest

1022
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: story of the Olympics today actually has a lot in

1023
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: common with two other big stories from the Olympics. What

1024
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: is it? We'll tell you next right here, Jason and

1025
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: Mike Love is in the air on Fox Sports Radio.

1026
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,000
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