WEBVTT - Episode 397 - Reds Recap, Brewers Preview 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.280 Episode three ninety seven of Bucco Banter. We are going 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:06.360 to recap the series loss in Cincinnati, and we're gonna 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:09.960 preview the upcoming road trip to Milwaukee and maybe a 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.360 little bit of trade talk. You're listening to the Bucko 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:14.920 Banter podcast, brought to you by the Just Baseball Media 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.480 Network's music I feel. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:17.840 One O one. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:19.520 You see a couple of me in My Taste with 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.320 me and my lemonade because I let the way taste 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.919 Beth Seats had the pirates and he let me run 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.160 the base. Yeah, my time is like my money because 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:27.840 I can't. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:28.400 Afford to waste. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.800 Oh why see is a llawyer take my date to 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.600 my dates? Or to stick by the plate Sinney case 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.600 keep the case from my race at my pace cleared Brant, 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:37.280 that is snake. 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.920 Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Banner. Adam, you 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:42.280 were returning from Cincinnati. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.600 I stayed back this week. You and Debo held down. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:48.760 The fort dig disappointing series. Nonetheless, you go in to 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:54.080 the last place Red's Ballpark in Cincinnati, hoping to maybe 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.840 gain some momentum and loose three or four. Tell us 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.360 about the vibes the overall trip and how did that 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:00.000 go for you guys? 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.760 For us, fine as human beings, We're good. We made 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:09.080 it back alive. As a ball club man, when I 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:14.720 tell you the vibe shift from game when we got there, 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:19.560 from Friday to Saturday and then today was just something 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.280 I've never seen before. And we go back to Friday, 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:28.440 you get into the clubhouse after some mental errors, you 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:34.559 lose Rhino to the quad strain. It was a funeral man, 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.760 like you could hear a pin drop in that clubhouse, 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:41.600 and rightfully so just so emotional, right because not only 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.039 of the circumstances, you're losing ballgames that you should be winning, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.559 but your leader goes down, a clubhouse voice goes down. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.640 Somebody that you've relied on a lot this year in 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.520 order to make this a winning culture is likely out 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:57.520 for the rest of the season. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:57.720 Now. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.160 I know he recovered in pretty record time last time, 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.440 so maybe fingers crossed we get the same type of result. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.560 But it was really, really bad. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.320 And I remember Deb and I walking out of there 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.560 just saying, like you got a fuel for some of 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.680 these guys, because it's we're in August, it's hot out, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.160 it's tough. You've already gone through a couple of weeks 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:20.880 where it's doubleheader, it's extra. 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:21.840 Innings, and then this happens. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.120 You can't catch a break, and then they win on Saturday, 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:27.919 and you go in in there, in there, and they're 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.320 blasting Lonely Island. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.520 I'm on a boat. It's electric. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.040 Marcelo Zuna is in the corner dancing like he had 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.480 a good game. You're like, all right, we're back right, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.560 and and we put out the meme. It's like season 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.680 back on. Because baseball's reactionary. Fans are going to react 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.800 the most after every single game. And one thing that 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.240 I loved that they had on the whiteboard in the 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:54.280 clubhouse was let's go one and O today. And that's 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.120 the mentality that we've been talking about. And you know, 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:57.960 we've heard some guys say it, but it was the 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.000 first time I seen it written on the white boy 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.840 right before you enter the field, and something felt different. Right, 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.840 It's like, all right, you still believe in these guys, 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:08.799 you still know it's a good team. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.040 And you're like, I don't care now, you right the ship, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.799 you go out and split this series. We're fine, We're 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:15.520 still in it. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:20.360 And you get absolutely mollywopped today and It was a 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.680 weird series with these rain delays and Donnie getting ejected 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.040 because they're doing god knows what to the field out there, 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.000 but we got to score runs. And it's starting to 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.640 become a little bit of an issue with this team, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:39.360 Scott not being as productive as they once was early 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.800 on in the year, along with obviously color color struggles, 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.640 which we'll get into, but the offense has struggled as 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.320 of late. Even when they won this week, it really 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:49.960 wasn't because of offensive production. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.280 It was because of Abbott not having control. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.200 And who they've is the one left in that they've 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:57.080 been able to hit all year. 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.480 They faced like three or four times and they've had 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.400 really good rormans against him every time. But here's the thing, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.360 They're getting cold at the wrong time. And you know 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.400 it's a long season. You're gonna go through rough stretches. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.560 This rough stretches just happens to be coming at the 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.120 wrong time the time that you just don't want it 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.080 to happen, right, But I mean, this is this is 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.520 a team that is very capable of going on a run. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:19.680 And you see it. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.239 Guys that you typically circle on the calendar, Ret Louder, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:28.240 Brandon fought. Who's the other righty we face for Arizona 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.039 at the beginning of. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.880 The week, Mary Kelly, Merrill Kelly. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.080 These are guys like, Okay, this team's gonna put up 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.520 close to double digit runs today because this offense has 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.960 performed for that standard this year. They just haven't done it. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.040 They've been struggling even more against guys that they should 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.160 hit well. And you know those games are gonna happen 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.839 in a long season. But at the same time, you know, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.600 I think we're we're both you know, believing that this 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.560 team's capable of going on running. When you look at 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.880 the wild card standings, Yeah, they're getting further out, but. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.960 They're still in it. Yeah, they're still in it. 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.280 As much as I want to be negative and and 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:04.320 feel like the sky is falling, there's still very much 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:04.560 in it. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.680 So anyone's saying that they should sell, no, they should not. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.279 It hasn't worked for you in the past, right, Like, 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.000 let's look back at the whole Ben Sherrington era has 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.039 selling it the deadline worked out for you? So like 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.240 what's to say? Still buying into this team doesn't turn 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.160 things around? Right, Like you still have to hold out hope, 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.800 just per producer Jay, Here real quick, they have an 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.960 eighty one WRC plus as a team since July seventeenth. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.000 It's twenty fifth in baseball seventh highest team strikeout rate 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.640 since July seventeenth. Which I'm glad you brought that up, Jay, 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.080 because before the show I looked up this team leads 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.800 the league in strikeouts at one thy sixty three. 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.520 They're in first, they're not tied for first. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.280 They're in first, and that's gonna be okay if you're 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.880 living and dying by the long ball. But then you 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.560 look a little bit deeper into it, they're twenty first 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.359 in the league in sackflies, and then they're tied for 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.520 last than the league in sack punts. Don't care about 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.120 the sack bunts as much, Jay, They're not the only 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.680 one with a thousand. I think the Yankees are right 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:11.080 behind them with one thousand and sixty, but twenty first 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.000 in sackflies, tied for last in sack bunts. 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.920 Again, don't care about the buns too much. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.520 But what that shows me is if you're striking out 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.839 a lot and you're also not hitting the long ball, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.760 we're not slugging, and you're not gonna win by death 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:30.000 by single and driving in runs and playing strategic baseball, 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.360 you're putting yourself in a really bad position, a really 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.800 really bad position where you're just not getting guys on base. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.919 And it's concerning. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.960 You can't get cold at this time of the year, 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.000 the absolute wrong time when we've seen collapses before. I'm 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.760 not ready to call it an absolute collapse, but just 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:51.120 not ideal. 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.520 There's an opportunity to write the ship here. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.240 And I mentioned it earlier on on my Twitter just 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:58.360 saying like you can't. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:06:59.600 We've been saying it from. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.640 The very big you gotta make a move, you gotta 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.400 like you gotta go for it. And I know you're 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.000 not gonna get a closer in June, as we've said, 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.479 but you're not gonna get that closer in May. But 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:11.080 like they ran Downtana out there way too long and 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:12.480 some other guys out there way too long. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.320 They could have made changes. They should have short leashes. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.280 On guys, right, But I understand having like a longer 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:19.680 leash with like an Isaac Matts and this is a 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.960 guy that has produced for you more than not, but 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.080 you could have you didn't have to run some of 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:26.560 the guys out there that you did in the high 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:27.360 leveled situations. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:28.680 Now we're a day away. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.320 From the trade deadline and you're in this position, and 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.480 I think some of that is self inflicted. I you know, 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.000 I think even a lot of people in the in 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.120 the Pirates organization would probably look in the mirror and 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.480 say the same thing. I hope they would, right. They 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.120 played this a little bit conservatively. But at the same time, 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.960 there's time. There's time, right, and I think, you know, 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.600 this is a big twenty four hours coming up, an 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.720 opportunity to write the ship. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.760 Now, Ryan O'Hearn, losing him is is a gut punch, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.040 no doubt about it. He's a leader in the clubhouse. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.400 He's a leader in the lineup, Like this is the 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.920 best all around hitter that you can put in the 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.040 lineup right now, right, he does it all. But you 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.760 also you also are getting reinforcements back. I'm gonna play 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.000 a little bit glass half full here, right. I know 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.680 a lot of Piratescreans probably don't want to hear this 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:12.880 type of attitude right now. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.320 But you just got Spencer Horwitz back. That's huge. 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.080 Andy Rodriguez is healthy. You're gonna get O'Neill Cruz back, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.720 pretty soon ish, and then they're also there's rumors about 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.960 them going out on to uh grab a right handed 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.640 outfielled bat. The name that's been floated around is Taylor Ward. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.600 Another one Joe Atdell. Both names I'd be very happy 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.240 with to add to this lineup. So it's not all 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.720 doom and gloom. You can't you can't underscore the loss 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.600 of Rhin O'Hearn right like, that is an impactful loss, 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.840 but we're also getting guys back, we're getting reinforcements on 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.319 the way, and this offense is still really good. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.440 Jay, you want to come in and say something guys. 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.360 When it comes to buying to I feel like people 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:55.960 who have been looking at this through lens of either 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:57.640 it's just like we're gonna go all in sell the 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.880 entire farm to make this happen, or we're gonna do 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:01.720 no right. And I don't think that you have to 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.920 necessarily do either one because you look at the guys 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.040 that they're interested in, aside from Luke Weaver, who is 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:08.920 really going to cost you a whole lot right now 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:10.760 on the trade market. You mentioned this before we started 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.680 recording about Taylor Ward. He's a one year rental who 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.360 can help you right now kind of feel that be 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.120 that stop gap between now and when we get Ryan 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.160 and Hern back, whether that's next year or at the 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.000 end of this year, and then fit in against Lefty 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.160 something like that. He's not going to cost you more 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.440 than like a top a top like fifteen to thirty prospect, 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.439 and that's even generous, to be honest, lower level arm 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.440 maybe yeah, maybe lottery ticket dominic, a lottery ticket like, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.160 you don't you don't have to go all in or 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.120 not go all in, like you can really start to 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.920 rebuild this team and fill some of these holes without 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.800 really blowing up your farm system, especially whenever you get 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.880 to the bullpen you constantly see these maybe intriguing arms 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:50.280 moved around who aren't aren't like super super established closers 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.160 or anything like that. You can you can make this 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.800 happen and still like manage to keep your future and 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:56.640 whatnot going forward. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.000 I just wanted to mention that really quickly. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.200 And if anyone knows our low low levels, it's the 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.839 Baltimore Orioles just being an earshot away in Sarasota. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:06.680 They've definitely seen a system. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.800 Just don't please don't touch rint on the Barrow or 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.160 Carlos Mateo. Those are two guys I really like and 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.000 hope to keep in the system. But hey, I think 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.240 if Taylor Ward is the guy coming back, Yeah, it's 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.480 gonna be It's not gonna cost a whole ton, but 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.400 this is a guy that could rotate around the corners 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.800 and provide some power from the right side, which is 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:24.880 what this team really needs. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.000 This is what they were hoping to get from Marcelo Zerda. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.960 Yeah, and then we talk about bullpenhelp. They did trade 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:34.160 for Kamilla Duval this week. You traded amaral Fonso, who 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.839 obviously sad story this year, promising prospect, He's going to 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.800 be a free agent at the end of the year, 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.600 minor league free agent, so you had to make a 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.520 move with him. And then you include Louis Cruz, who 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.520 is still in the dr at age nineteen. The Pirates 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.040 are paying Duval seven hundred and fifty K. He had 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.520 his debut on Sunday, let up a home run. This 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.839 stuff is there, I mean, the pedigree is there as well. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.719 He's had success at the big league level, But at 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:05.199 the same time, there's a huge concern that he could 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:06.959 just be Gregory Soto. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:08.640 From the right side. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.400 You know, sometimes if this stuff is on, you're like, wow, 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:12.800 how does this guy ever get hit? 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.920 But if not, then it's. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.280 A bowling balls. It's like, yeah, kind of, I'd be 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.840 pretty scared to be in that box. I'm not gonna lie. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:28.560 Yeah, it's I like the bet on it, right, I do. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:33.120 I think it's a fine trade and absolutely fine trade. Now, 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.480 if we're looking back at on it tomorrow after six 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.320 pm and that's it, then there's another discussion that needs 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.960 to be had because this is absolutely not enough for 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.600 this team. You're looking for stability. You're not looking for 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.959 incredible stuff to mold right now. You're looking for stability 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.200 somebody that's going to make you feel comfortable going into 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.079 the seventh, eighth, ninth INNY. I don't want to come 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.720 on this show tomorrow after the trade deadline and start 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.320 hammering icy lights like I did last year. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.480 Okay, like I want to be in a good. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.920 Food We could do that in celebration. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:15.160 Though exactly. Icy light is good for any type of mood. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.800 I'd rather have happy icy lights. I don't want sad 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:22.679 icy lights. Happy icy lights are always better. So tomorrow 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:27.000 at six pm, this team needs some stability on the 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:27.520 back end. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:29.040 Duval. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.520 It's fine, it could work out well, but it's still 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.000 oh my god, he's coming into the game. Which type 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.160 of guy are we going to get right now? If 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:38.920 that makes sense? 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.320 Yeah, no, absolutely, And you know, I expect more than 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.840 one move, guys. I wouldn't be surprised if something happens 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.800 while we're recording here or later tonight into tomorrow. I 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.640 think they're going to be very active. But I want 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.520 to talk about another topic before we move on Mitch Keller. 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.319 I just feel like we have to talk about it. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.200 Love Mitch, but I think it's hard to ignore that 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:06.320 just hasn't been his year, and you got to decide 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.160 what to do with him, probably sooner rather than later. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.760 He's notoriously dropped off in the second half in years past. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:17.760 He hasn't been good since April, right, And this is 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.120 a guy that you can't continue running out there in 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.760 the starting rotation in meaningful games. 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.160 It's tough to watch man, it really is. He's susceptible 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:28.800 along the ball. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.400 He's given up four to five runs almost every outing, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.800 and while the offense is slow, that doesn't help matters either. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.400 And he had like fifty plus pitches through to it 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.520 in the second inning today, Like it's not giving us 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:42.520 meaningful innings either. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.000 This is a guy that used to be our workhorse. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.680 This is why everyone said you can't trade them away 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.400 in the off season, because you got all these young arms. 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:48.559 You need a guy that's gonna be able to go 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:49.440 out there give you six. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.600 To seven or a sort. He can't do that anymore. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:56.079 The problem also lies you have braxt Ashcraft who's coming 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.440 up on a career high bub a Chandler who's coming 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.800 up on a career high Jones who's on an innings 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.760 limit or a pitch limit, and then Mitch Keller. If 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.640 you take him out of this rotation, you absolutely need 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:12.040 to add other guys that are going to step in. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:13.320 Scott. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.840 He's only averaging ninety one point nine on the fastball 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.720 right now, and he threw sixty nine pitches today. Only 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.520 thirty of those were in the strike zone. Like there's 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.920 days where I see the old Mitch Keller and I 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.160 start to believe, and I'm like, all right, maybe he 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.280 gives up two or three runs today, but we get 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.960 six innings out of him and he keeps us in 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.160 the ballgame. But it's just not going to happen if 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.120 he's not staying in the strike zone. Jay brings up 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.680 that Connor Wickgriff who we had on the show. Great interview, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.280 by the way, go check that out. He is a 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.680 two seven six ERA and forty two and a third 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.880 in Triple A right now, so he's killing it. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.080 September call up six man rotation. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.440 It could be he's a college arm, right, but it's 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.920 just very hard to tell. Like at the beginning of 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.160 the year, we thought Barco is going to be the 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.240 lefty that this team needed in the rotation. We said, hey, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.600 forget going out and getting a lefty. You got Hunter 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.360 Barco in the system, and it just really hasn't worked 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:11.960 out to date. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.960 Maybe Connor Wickgriff is the answer there if. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.680 You're just looking something internally, but you probably have to 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:23.040 go and get another starting pitcher. Right you're running into 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.880 a weird zone where, hey, we need to compete, but 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.920 we also need to make sure that these guys' arms 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:29.560 don't fall off. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.760 Yeah, yeah, I mean absolutely a lot of these young arms, 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.280 they're reaching their career, hi, right, I mean that's that's 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.880 a problem, not just here, but it's all the young arms. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.760 But yeah, I would not mind adding in a guy, 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.440 and it doesn't have to be a sexy name. It 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.040 could be a guy that's going to go out there 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.120 and give you five or six relive winnings. Think of 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:52.200 a guy in the Martin perezmol right, soft tossing lefty, 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.800 get a different look in there, and I think that'd 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:55.240 be helpful. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.800 I'm also you really hope that Bubba Chandler has like 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.320 a strong the last two months here. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.720 Because although he's reaching at career high and innings as well, 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.000 you've seen flashes of it through July of what he 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:09.520 can be. 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.360 And you know, I think this is a. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.560 Guy that's just going to be a late bloomer, right 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.040 We know he has the stuff and we know he 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:23.240 could be top of the rotations upside here, but. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.920 You know, this is a guy with skeins not pitching 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:28.360 at his best right now. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.640 We could really use a step up from him and Ashcraft, 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.680 who has been gassed as of recently, even though his 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:35.760 last start was better. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.120 Guys, I want to pitch you guys on one other 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.600 starting pitcher we could potentially go after here now that 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.480 the first Domino's kind of fallen with Scooball Tigers aren't 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.520 going to just sell terror scooball this deadline Casey Mys 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.120 is also on the trademarket like case, and that salary 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.040 is not hefty at all. And he's kind of the 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.800 definition of a workhorse honestly, even though he's been he's 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.600 been hurt. When he's healthy, he's just a guy that 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.480 posts so far this season through sixteen games, eighty six 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.560 point two innings two point seven You're not a huge 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.560 strikeout guy or anything like that, but somebody can give 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.720 you length and just kind of fill these holes and 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.760 almost be the Mitch Keller that you were hoping to 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.760 get out of mitche Keller this season, just me that splitter. Yeah, 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:15.440 someone to keep in mind. He's gonna get you swing 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.720 and miss, even if it's not K's And I think 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.800 that honestly with the defense right now too that I 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.160 don't know if we're gonna talk about that at all, 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.080 but we could also use a guy that could just 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:24.760 get some swing and miss as well, and maybe he 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.280 can maybe find his way towards some more strikeouts in 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:28.359 Pittsburgh too, who knows. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:30.680 I liked it swinging and miss and somebody that could 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:31.520 put the ball on the ground. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:32.600 I like that. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.760 I like that, Well, let's talk about that defense is 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.760 that's a good segue because you got a guy like 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.920 Nikki g who's leading, practically leading the league in hits, 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.040 multi hit games, hitting. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.560 For high average. What do you do with him? 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.160 Because he's been a liability at third base to say 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.680 the least, and you look at some of the met people. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.679 I haven't really looked at it myself, but people have 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.480 brought up that he actually grades better at shortstop than 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.920 Treolo does, and Treolo is great better at third base? 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.359 Does it make sense to make that switch? Like, I 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.040 just don't see Nicki g as being. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:09.240 A four to five day shortstop while Connor Griffin's out. 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.600 But there's something that needs to be done here because 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.840 when you can't take Nikki g out of the lineup right now, 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.919 ideally he'd be a second baseman. But we got our 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:18.800 the best hitter in our lineup at second base right. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:23.800 Now negative four ounce above average for Gonzo, and it's 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:24.679 become an issue. Man. 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.879