WEBVTT - Traveling with Purpose on the Cheap #007 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.239 Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.880 Today we're talking about traveling with purpose on the cheap, 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.360 all right, Matt. So your daughter came to my door. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:25.160 She just wouldn't was relentlessly selling me cookies. What's up 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:29.440 with this? Uh yeah, the eavy cookies? Yeah? What is this? 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:31.639 A she just trying to like take out the girl's shout? 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.919 A girl scout came by our house maybe last week 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.040 or two weeks ago. Because have any come by your place? No, 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:39.720 we haven't had him. Me. I'm like waiting for the 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.440 thin mince. Yeah, I know a neighbor to to three 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.160 houses down. Their daughter came by and Edvye was there 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.839 when she came by and was totally fascinated with like 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.880 the sale. I think that's why she was mostly drawn 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.240 to the fact that she had like a clipboard or 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.720 like the paper. It was like writing stuff down. EV's 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.400 like all about that. Neantime, she any time we play, 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.120 she's always like taking orders like she's a waitress. She's 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.640 like a scorekeeper. Yeah exactly. Yeah. So a few days ago, 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.399 like in the last week, she was saying that she 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.120 wanted to wanted to make cookies and what what we 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:15.040 realized is that she basically just wanted to like take orders. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.039 She didn't really want to make cookies. And so we 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.520 went around and uh yeah, I can't walked up to 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.320 y'all's place. She gave she gave me the hard sell. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.160 She was she was practiced by then, she was versed, 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:27.800 she knew what to say. She was like one play 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.200 to cookies only, Mr Joel, are you sure? Three dollars? 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.679 Was like, fine, y'all buy more whatever you say. Uh yeah, 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.960 But I mean it's honestly, it's it's actually pretty cool 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.800 right to kind of see ways to teach my daughter 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.400 how to be a businesswoman, you know, and like how 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.840 to think of something and kind of follow through with 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.680 it as well. That's really the biggest thing because so 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.120 many things we do at home are like you do 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.080 it for a minute, you know, thirty seconds, and then 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.000 just you abandon it. And so that was something Kate 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.200 was really making sure she stuck to it the grit, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.680 you know, stick to witness. Well, that's one thing I 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.320 gotta say, you've done really well already and that I 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.200 would love to do better with my girls, is to 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.880 teach to teach you girls about money. And kind of 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.600 give them some real life situations and how it plays out. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.519 And so I think we'll dedicate another podcast, a future 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:21.239 episode to specifically talking about how we teach our girls 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.560 about money and you get kids the only one. Yeah, 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.840 and you do such a great job. Thanks man, We'll 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.040 let you leave that one. So, and that was great. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:29.880 And by the way, maybe we'll polcated on that one too, 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.320 because she's Yeah, she's definitely led the charge with the 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.880 with the cookies and the business order. And I could 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.800 business reform. I could tell she was the one that 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.920 did the banking. They were phenomenal cookies there, man, did 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.000 you try the lemon ones? I haven't tried the lemon one. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.200 I tried the chocolate chip so good you just wait 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.600 all right, yeah, with pink frosting on top. There. It's amazing. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.079 That makes me think of a topic too that somebody 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.880 in our Facebook group mentioned a topic like that as 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.880 well as far as like how to encourage sort of 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:59.799 the entrepreneurial spirit with your with you know, with your kids, right, yeah, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.600 totally without the question. Yeah, So on that note, did 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.320 you have a job as a kid, How old are 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.360 you when you first started working? And what did Where 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.680 did you start working? Yeah, good question, man. The first 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.080 job I had was as a caddie at the golf 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.280 course where or where my parents lived nowhere where I 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.440 grew up as a kid in Augusta. I didn't get 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.919 an early on job like like like a lot of kids, 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.440 my parents were very much their mindset was well, definitely, 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.320 my dad was just like, make I want to I 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.880 want you to focus on your grades. Don't worry about 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.760 you know, if you maintained a certain level of responsibility 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.200 and chores and things at home, we'll make sure you 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:35.880 have enough spending money to kind of hang out with 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.760 your friends and um. And it was plenty, you know. 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.240 It's not like I was like I want more, um, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.400 but grades and education definitely kind of became the I 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.840 guess the focus for my folks. Yeah, how about you. Yeah, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.440 so my first legit job were you eight and a 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.080 half a little bit older than that, but my first 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.360 my first job was mowing lawn into the neighborhood and 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.960 so oh kind of yeah, did the old school thing 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.200 posted the flyers and I just remember there was one 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.280 specific lawn where the lady was just like so picky 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.080 about the issue. Was an older lady and it took 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.480 my dad. My dad was like super kind to help 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.240 me out. He'd been you know, he worked a full 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.640 week and then on that Saturday he spent five hours 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.919 with me over that lady's house. Yeah, trim in the 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.400 bush everything, And we're like, I didn't I didn't advertise 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.080 all this on the flyer of doing all this for 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.280 fifteen bucks. But I learned a lot from doing that 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.919 with my dad about sticking to it, following through on 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.960 what you say you're gonna do, and like the customer 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.479 services but side of it as well, right, like trying 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.880 to keep folks happy and totally Yeah, I did not 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.960 think of I didn't think of lawns at all. But yeah, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.719 I mean I did lawns. Uh. I did pool cleaning. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.680 I was like the little I was a little pool boy, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.480 come Bana boy. Just in the leaves again, the leaves 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:57.760 out and stuff like that. Yeah. Uh anyway, but then 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.920 my first real job was is working at Chick fil 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.920 A at the age of fourteen. It was right across 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.119 the street from my high school. So I would walk 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.680 over right after school and I would work at three 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.479 hour shift and then I would go home. I think 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.800 legally I was only allowed to work like fifteen hours 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.760 a week or something like that. So I'd work, you know, 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.280 two days after school and then on a Saturday. Um, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.960 and saved up enough money, you know by the time 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.839 I was sixteen and a half or sixteen to to 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.640 buy my first car, my own cash. So yeah, So 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.120 I would say for me learning the work ethic early on, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:34.200 it was really really helpful. And working from an early 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.720 age taught me a lot that still continues to carry 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.800 me through to this day. And so yeah, I think 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.599 what you're doing with teaching Eavy to work starting a 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.400 four and a half is admirable. It's awesome, it's fun, right, Yeah. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.040 And she and those kinds of lessons you know, as 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.080 you continue those they will they'll laster the rest of 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.880 her life. Those lessons I learned mowing the lawn with 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.120 my dad when I didn't want to do it and 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.440 I was tired, and I was like, this is ridiculous. 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.840 I learned a lot um and it was. It was 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:10.800 really good for me. Alright. So, uh, every episode we 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.360 obviously drink a beer, and this week's beer Matt tell 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.240 us about it. Yeah, man, so this beer tonight is 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.880 Bell's hop Slam, which is actually kind of interesting because 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.159 we mentioned hop Slam last episode as sort of an aside. 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:25.840 How it's you know, it's been a couple of years 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.359 since I've had this one, and uh, my neighbor brought 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.200 some over, which is awesome, and he listens to the 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.680 podcast time too, And the last episode had not been 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.159 published by the time we're recording this one right now, 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:38.839 so it's not he didn't hear it, and it's not 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.320 like he heard us talking about hop Slam. It just 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.120 read your mind. It was meant to be. So as 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:44.760 soon as you brought it over, my eyes lit up. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.400 I was like, are you kidding? This is awesome. I mean, 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.440 obviously it's been a it's been a minute since we've 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.080 had it, but let's crack this joker. This if you 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.200 are into I p A s This was like the 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.680 first I PA the game to Colt following um and 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.880 I gotta say the label still one of my favorites. Dude, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.320 just straight up bowled over by a pile of hops. 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:09.800 So and by the way, we will take your beer donations. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.640 Feel free to reach out to us on Twitter at 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.920 not Poor Matt and at not Poor Joel. Also breweries 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:16.240 if you want to get your name out there on 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.520 the podcast, feel free to donate. We got some beers 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.440 coming in from a couple of breweries and we'll be 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.080 drinking them on the podcast and um giving a shout out. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.880 Let's let me know what we think. But today's from 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.880 Matt's neighbor, some free hop slam. Well I can say 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:36.880 it is still good, man. That's so different than some 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.760 of the ips we've been drinking recently. Yeah. Yeah, it's 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:44.320 got like a real multi backbone, but it's still it's 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.440 got that like nice bright and honey sweetness to it. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.120 That's delicious. Yeah. So for those of you that have 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.480 had I p s before, maybe aren't as similiar with 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.280 hop slam. And so this is considered a double I 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:57.960 p A. So that I mean they sit around in 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.760 percent I feel like typically, so it's little bitter, but 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.600 this one being a double, it's got higher alcohol and 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.680 higher sugar sugar content, so it's a little bit sweeter. Right, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.280 It's it's got that honey makes it easier to drink 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.240 as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, but it's also the 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:15.880 a lot of the I p A is being made 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:20.520 today are even more hop heavy or hop forward than 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.320 this beer. Um. And so you're gonna get a little 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:27.280 more of the traditional piney bitterness on this one. Um, 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:31.480 which is great. It's just not it's just a different style. Yeah, 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.160 it's just a different style than what people are mostly 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.240 making right now. Yeah, in my mind, right now, this 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.920 tastes like drinks like a West Coast I p A. When, like, 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.520 years ago, I would never have said that. I would 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:42.959 have been like, oh no, Bell's Hop Slam is its 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.640 own thing totally. But now that it's been just been 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.560 a couple of years and everybody's putting all these sort 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.679 of the the hazier New England style I p A 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.280 s that literally look like orange juice. They're so fruit 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.760 kind of heavy. Um this, Yeah, it really does feel 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.760 like a West Coast I PA. But it's amazing, it's delicious. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.320 We'll have a link to the Hot Slam on Tap 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.559 profile on our show notes if you want to learn 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.840 more about it. And now that we've talked about the beer, 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.760 and we've talked about Matt's circummending child labor laws to 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.600 get his daughter in the workforce early, let's get to 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.960 the subject at hand. Matt traveling with Purpose on the cheap. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.400 So I don't know actual child labor laws, but what 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.840 I do know is that once you have an actual 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.560 job and you're employed, you can open up a roth ira. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.200 A just right, that's right. Uh. Some My a friend 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.800 of mine, she started working for her dad, who is 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:37.360 an accountant, and I think literally they opened a roth 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.760 ira for her at the age of fifteen. Oh nice 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.920 and max that joker out and I think they're in 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.240 pretty good shape as far as that goes. So my 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.880 boss Clark, so his wife is an actor and she 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.360 got his son on a commercial shoot when he was 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.240 like one or two, and they filed a tax return 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.199 for him that year and he was able to claim 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.800 that on his taxes and then open up a wrath. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.959 So he's had a roth since he was an infant. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.800 Oh my gosh. Yeah yeah, leave that to leave that 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.120 to Clark playing the games. Genius right there, man, like 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.560 a legit player. I love it. So the subjective hand 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.880 traveling with the purpose on the cheap Matt, the let's 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.280 talk about kind of the philosophy. First off, vacation and 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.440 travel like they're two different terms, and what do we 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.720 mean when we say each one? So in our minds 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.400 we define vacation as being more like something you do 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.880 to go and relax. So, you know, if and that's 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.040 what we're doing, you know later this summer or beginning 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.120 of the summer, we're gonna go to the beach. We're 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.240 taking it easy. For some folks, maybe that's going to 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.040 like the mountains, like a cabin up in the mountains, 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:43.199 just vegan out, taking it easy, relaxing, playing games, playing 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:47.280 board games versus travel, right, which is more How would 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:51.839 you define that? Travel? I think of as more exploratory, 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.400 less kicking your feet up. And uh, I like a 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.720 good dose of both in my life. I personally prefer 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.800 travel and keep kind of skip vacation to do more trap. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.120 But I'd like a good mix of both. And so 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.680 I think if travel is more exploratory, going somewhere new 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:08.440 or that you've been where you want to see more, 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.360 see more stuff. Uh, And I think a vacation as 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.559 like yeah, finding the beach house from the mountain house 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.240 and kind of kicking it for for you know, a 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.920 few days, a long weekend to a week and that 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.880 being more relaxing. For me, travel is a little more 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.920 draining because I'm exploring the whole time. But it's draining 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.400 in just the right way. And I think life stage 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:29.760 also has a lot to do with it too, right. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.480 I mean sure with kids, we've got friends that fly 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.120 all the time and travel all over the world. We 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.800 haven't done that yet with with our girls, mostly because 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.040 we're thinking and if if we're gonna go travel somewhere, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.120 it's gonna be me and me and Kate for us. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.200 It's a lot of money to spend extra on a 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.320 plane ticket for a kid that's not either he may 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.160 not remember it or be doesn't you know, may not 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.199 appreciate it as you know, even some other kids who 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.400 might appreciate it more or may throw a tantrum in 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.480 the plane the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm I'm 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.120 gonna avoid that for the next few years. I think, yeah, 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.600 I agree, And I think yeah, there's the prohibitive cost 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.960 involved if you want to actually do some traveling and 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.480 some exploring with your kids. Our kids are on the 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.120 on the young side, are four and under, and you've 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.880 got three four and under. I've got two four and under. So, uh, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:20.560 taking actual trips overseas or whatever, it's gonna be cost 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.800 prohibitive to buy more plane tickets and and all that 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:28.360 other stuff. So, yeah, when when I'm talking about travel, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.240 for us at this point in time, it's when Emily 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.520 and I get to do things today. And for you guys, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.840 it's when you and kids take it away for anniversary 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.240 trip or maybe getting away for the weekend something like that. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:39.640 And that's what we're gonna spend the rest of the 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.680 podcast talking about most mostly is as travel. They'll they'll 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.920 be some things that can apply to vacation, but in 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.000 general on the move travel. And you might be listening 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.360 to this in your young twenties and you've got the 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.480 ability monetarily and time wise to do a lot of this, 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.360 or you might be listening to this and just have 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.800 had a newborn and you know what, that's not going 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.040 to be on your list for at least the next year. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:02.880 We're going to kind of try to lay out the 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.800 basics for how you can travel well and then also 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.920 travel on a on a limited budget, which is actually 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.040 how you should approach it. It's better for you if 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.040 you approach it that way. Um, we're going to kind 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.080 of approach from those things, and and you might not 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:16.600 be at the point where you're gonna book a plane 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.719 ticket tomorrow but we want to kind of give you 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.040 this this as a resource where whether it's tomorrow or 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.800 next year that you're booking your trip, you can use 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.280 some of these things as a guide to book great 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.040 travel for a really good deal. Yeah, and before we 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.920 get to some of those more practical tips, I want 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.800 to make sure that we talk about a very big overview, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.560 sort of more of a philosophical standpoint, which is what 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.559 kind of travel do you like to do. It's a 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.120 question that Kate and I've sort of asked each other 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.440 because we kind of learned how to travel once together, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.480 Like you know, once we got married, we start traveling more. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.760 And what we realized is that we like to travel 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.920 the same way we like to live, right, And so 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.840 what that means for us is not necessarily doing super 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.880 tourist these things, uh like museums or tourist attractions, things 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:02.600 like that, which there's nothing wrong with. I think for 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.199 the longest time, we sort of had this meant this 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.560 notion where we thought that that's what travel is, because 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.400 that's what you see, that's what you see people post 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.240 pictures of, and that's what you hear people talking about, 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:15.440 is going to a city and going to a tourist attraction. Yeah. No, 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.720 I think it's the way a lot of people approach travel, 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.800 and that's okay. Maybe you're really into museums, you know, 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.640 go find the museums you want to go see. But 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.040 we kind of tend to travel in the same same 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.640 way as you and Kate, and we would prefer to 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:32.280 find a neighborhood that we enjoy in a place where 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.920 we're going and kind of center our trip around there, 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.800 or maybe a really good brewery. Yeah, the breweries are 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.920 always involved, much to Emily sugrin at times. Yeah, I mean, 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.280 we're lucky enough to have wise that also enjoy beer 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.080 as well. But yeah, it can't all be about the beer, 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.440 yeah for sure. But you know, there's there's certainly some 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.360 places that we travel where where we make museums a 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.280 higher priority. Like when we went to Florence, Italy, it 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.400 was i priority for us to go see a museum. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.680 In April, we're going to go to Paris, France, and 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.680 we're going to make it. There's like tons of museums. 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.680 There's like you could fill your whole time with museums, 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.000 but we'll pick one and we'll go to it and 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.560 we'll we'll have fun. But for us, yeah, it's more 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:21.200 about neighborhood exploring and also natural beauty. So wherever we are, 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.200 we want to see the outsides. Um Like when we 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.440 were in Amsterdam, we wanted to see the tulip gardens. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.880 There's nothing else like it in the world. You know. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:30.920 When we go to Washington State, we want to go 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.120 see Mountaraineer, uh, wherever it is we're traveling, like, we 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.480 want to see that natural beauty thing that that nowhere 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.440 else has that kind of makes this place stand on 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.880 its own. It's kind of unique and every place has 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.680 something like that. So find kind of that that natural 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.680 beauty that you can find on your trip to It's cheap. 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.720 It's it's cheap to find the natural beauty and it's 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.160 out there, and it's cheap to walk around exploring the 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.360 neighbors and we try to do that here in Atlanta. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.120 The other night, Emily and I went on a date 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.400 and what did we do, Well, we went out to dinner, 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.880 but before that, we literally walked around this neighborhood close 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:07.640 by and we we admired all this beautiful street art 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.320 that we have. We love we love street art. Cabbage Town. 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.720 Oh yeah, yeah, so we just we love street art 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.040 and it was the most beautiful walk. We love the 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.560 street art and the architecture, and so to get to 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:22.480 walk around that neighborhood before dinner was super cool, so wonderful, 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.600 just walking and talking and enjoying that. I feel like 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:29.240 a lot of what differentiates like a destination where you 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:30.960 might go to a museum and do some of those 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.880 things and experience culture as opposed to say, going to 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.920 a destination where you live sort of your life that 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.440 you normally do is the maybe like state side versus 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.960 going abroad, right, And I feel like when Kate and 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.880 I when we when we travel, you know, or when 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.400 we travel even with you guys too, and we're state side, 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.640 we try to maintain like our rhythms of our life 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.520 and basically try to picture ourselves in that new location 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.760 and live the way that like we would if we 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.000 live there, which is a lot of times while we 0:16:58.080 --> 0:16:59.560 end up looking at real estate and being like, what 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.400 would be like to live here? You probably go to 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:06.399 the same coffee shop three days ago, people, I mean literally, 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.479 I mean, and it sounds hipster to say, but we 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.080 try to live like a local versus when you go, say, 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.240 when you're going abroad, do you go to work to 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.000 do you just like show up somewhere and you're like, hey, 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:21.520 I'm here, where's my w two? But yeah, Versus when 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.679 you go abroad somewhere when you're trying to experience a 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.600 new culture, well a lot of that you're wanting to 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.160 a lot of times, but kind of bombards yourself with 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.840 culture and it's not about sort of just sitting around 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.960 and doing what you normally went at home. It's like, well, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.040 we're here, so let's maybe kind of kind of check 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.240 out some of these these other things. And that might 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:44.879 be why we really like traveling in the States. So 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.960 I just wanted to mention that because you know, I 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.320 don't think sight seeing and being a tourist is necessarily 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.679 a bad way to travel. I just think there is 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.520 a lot of pressure to do those sort of things, 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.240 you know, when you're when you go on vacation, because 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:57.720 that's why people ask you. They're like, oh, did you 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.959 go see the Eiffel Tower? Right, people you're gonna hear 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.080 at you know when when you guys go to Paris. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.240 I agree. I think one of the biggest things is 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.040 people playing their trip around. What the what a couple 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.240 of websites or a couple of guidebooks tell them to 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.199 do and just what they've always heard because their pop culture, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:15.919 well you have to go to the Eiffel Tower or 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.000 you have to do this for that, and they end 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.919 up wasting time and money on certain things like that, 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.760 doing things that they don't even necessarily enjoy. Right. So, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.679 for instance, I haven't been to Paris yet, going in April, 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.840 but you can go have a picnic at the base 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.320 of the Eiffel Tower, which sounds awesome, or you can 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.480 wait in line and pay twenty five dollars or however 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.880 much it is to go up in the Eiffel Tower. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.920 Not only can you have the picnic, he can show 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.920 up at the Bottle of Wine and I did a 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.560 few years ago and lay out a blanket man and 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.800 watch the tower light up at night. Uh like, yeah, 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:48.720 that's a pretty sure that's what you guys will be doing. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.200 And so not only does it save you money, it 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.679 saves you time. I avoid lines like the plague and 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.119 and I so I just don't want to wait in 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.160 line to go up in this tower and pay money 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.240 to do it. But yeah, so I think that's really wharton. 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.280 Make sure you're not just doing what the guidebooks say, 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.160 what everyone else common wisdom says, and actually think about 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.159