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Speaker 1: they kind of had some locker room issues, and that's

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Speaker 1: why they let everyone go. That's why they kicked everyone

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Speaker 1: to the curb. And these are advantages you have when

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Speaker 1: you've been in the business a little while. So I

430
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Speaker 1: just think the uh, Bronnie James, which I didn't get

431
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Speaker 1: as worked up for as everyone else because I'm a

432
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Speaker 1: little getting nostalgic when I see fathers and sons. Obviously

433
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Speaker 1: is an NBA player, Clearly not if his name was

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Speaker 1: Bronni Middlecoff. What you have been drafted in the second

435
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: round and been given a four year contract? No, But like,

436
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: if you're lebron, what's the point of having this power

437
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: If I don't fucking wheel it around a little bit

438
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Speaker 1: and I get to be around my son, I'd probably

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00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: do the same thing for my kid Jack if I

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00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: was in a similar position whatever I was doing. But

441
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're gonna be good at it. There

442
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: is no guarantee, and obviously as a player is different

443
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: than as a coach. But I think it can be

444
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: a massive, massive advantage and we're seeing it now all

445
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: over coaching the Lions. You can bring in new coaches

446
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: in new gms and they can change the culture of

447
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: your franchise. Right hiring Brad Holmes and hiring Dan Campbell,

448
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: the Lions have been on the best run since I've

449
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Speaker 1: been alive. Right for their franchise, they have been one

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Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league for like four

451
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Speaker 1: straight years. If it wasn't for Dan being a little

452
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: reckless with with the field goals and the fourth down

453
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Speaker 1: plays in the NFC Championship game, I think it it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say that they go to the Super Bowl

455
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: a couple years ago, right the year they played the Niners.

456
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Speaker 1: But Dan's been a success. Last year was a quote

457
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Speaker 1: unquote disaster for them, and they went nine and eight.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what Matt Stafford in his tenure would

459
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: have signed up for, been like, Hey, this's gonna be

460
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: a disastrous season. We're gonna go nine and eight. So

461
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Speaker 1: they have changed the trajectory of the franchise. They got

462
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Speaker 1: real stud players, they got a real thing going. I

463
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Speaker 1: think the Lions are gonna be good this year that

464
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Speaker 1: they draft well, they have high impact guys. Under this regime,

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Speaker 1: most teams can't get rid of the most talented quarterback

466
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Speaker 1: they've ever had. Again since I've been alive, and pivot

467
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Speaker 1: and get better, which they did in the trade for

468
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Speaker 1: Stafford and Golf in the first round picks. But you

469
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Speaker 1: don't fire ownership and the core beliefs of the franchise

470
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: always come from the people signing the checks. And when

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Speaker 1: Barry Sanders retired in Calvin Johnson retired, the Lions made

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Speaker 1: them give back money because when I give you a

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Speaker 1: signing bonus, and we just talked about this with Jackson

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Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba, there is a difference between the salary

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Speaker 1: cap in cash spending. Right, So when they give Jackson

476
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Speaker 1: Smith a thirty five million dollar guaranteed contract or I

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Speaker 1: mean a signing bonus, he gets that into his direct

478
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Speaker 1: deposit in sometime over a two week span. Now, taxes

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Speaker 1: are taken out because he's a W two employee, but

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Speaker 1: he will get I don't know, you know, they got

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Speaker 1: no state income tax in Washington. I don't know exactly

482
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Speaker 1: what the number will be, but my guess would be

483
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Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three, twenty four million dollars will be

484
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Speaker 1: direct deposited into his Chase Bank account, into his Wells

485
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Fargo account. It's got to be pretty incredible. But that

486
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Speaker 1: bonus is for the life of the contract. Now, obviously

487
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Speaker 1: you're paid on top of it as the years go,

488
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Speaker 1: but you are paid up front an amount of money

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Speaker 1: for your four or five year and the Lions have

490
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: a company mandate that if you don't finish it out,

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00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: as Barry Sanders, as Calvin Johnson retired early, you have

492
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Speaker 1: to pay back whatever the you know, a crude amount

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00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: that you didn't earn. And Frank Ragnow, who basically died

494
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: on the field for the franchise, has to pay them

495
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: back three million dollars of whatever his total signing bonus is.

496
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Speaker 1: Because he's retiring. You can't play anymore. He tried to

497
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Speaker 1: come back last year but couldn't pass the physical. Why

498
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: because he's so fucked up for laying it on the

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Speaker 1: line for the franchise. If you remember, Andrew Luck got

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Speaker 1: a massive contract at the time, I'm pretty sure it

501
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: was the biggest contract in NFL history, and then a

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00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: couple weeks later at that preseason game, he just retires.

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Speaker 1: He quits, Jim irsay, let him the twenty five million dollars. Now,

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00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: if these were normal businesses, right like if I just

505
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: quit on the volume in Netflix and they had already

506
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: paid me up front cash, more than likely. And a

507
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: lot of you guys deal with this in whatever industries

508
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: like you get lawsuits involved, civil lawsuits. That's the way

509
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: business works. People were always at each other's throat saying,

510
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: you owe me this, we paid you for this, you

511
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: didn't do this. As the way the world works. Pro

512
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: sports a little different, especially for guys Barry Sanders. Calvin

513
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: Johnson's foot started fucking falling off because of what he

514
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: did for the Lions when they were atrocious. Ragdow was

515
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: one of the better players for one of the best

516
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Speaker 1: stretches in Lions history, and you make him pay three

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Speaker 1: million dollars back. And then Rod Wood, who I'm pretty

518
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: sure just retired or is retiring. After the draft, the

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Speaker 1: team president gave an example of if we signed tomorrow

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Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs to twenty million dollars and he retired on Friday,

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00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: we would get the twenty million dollars back. Well, yeah, Rod,

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Speaker 1: we understand that, But in a situation where you gave

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Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs twenty million dollars and in two and a

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Speaker 1: half years he shatters his knee and is not able

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00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: to play anymore and retires. And you say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: owe a seven million dollars back. You're kind of a

527
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: fucking loser. And this is the difference. And this is

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00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: where when these people sign up, because Dan Campbell and

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Speaker 1: Brad Holmes, they are impressive individuals, but they're working for

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00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: kind of an archaic organization and they're working for a

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00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: family that like kind of holding on to the past.

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00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Understand that mindset a little bit in the seventies, eighties

533
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: and nineties because the money was not flowing like it

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00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: is now in the NFL. Now, making someone pay something

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00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: back like three million dollars of a signing bonus isn't

536
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: just a rounding error. That is the type money that

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Speaker 1: an NFL team would like find not in a couch cushion,

538
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: but like under the couch, just sitting there. No one

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00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: would notice and no one would care. My first takeaway

540
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: kind of embarrassing. And I actually I it even made

541
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: me or gave like more respect for what they've done.

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Speaker 1: The GM and the head coach given what they're dealing

543
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: with because that's kind of a joke and that's not

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Speaker 1: a great look. And I'm not a big believer in

545
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: good look bad look like. Business is business. This is

546
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: one of those where it's like, what are we doing? Guys,

547
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: what are we doing? And it also reflects very positively

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Speaker 1: on Arsay who listen, had his troubles, had his demons, uh,

549
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: but by all accounts, was a pretty great person to

550
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Speaking of demons, I just saw

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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods. I want to say, is going to rehab.

552
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: He said he's seeking help. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we can we can go as far as saying he's

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00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: going to rehab because he didn't actually say those words.

555
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people are gonna cover

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Speaker 1: this story and where he ends up. I'd be a

557
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: little stunned if he's not in Yeah. Another story I

558
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: saw today is that Andy Reid said this morning that

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00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is more than a gadget player, that we

560
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of untapped potential there and he's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and depending on what happens to Mahomes, there's

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Speaker 1: a decent chance that Justin Fields could be the starter

563
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: Week one. Now By all accounts, mahomes rehab is going great,

564
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Speaker 1: and if he stays on that trajectory, Patrick mahonmes can

565
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: be the starter week one. But we've seen enough injuries.

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Speaker 1: You never know. You can't put these things in cement,

567
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: you can't write them down in sharply. You never know, right,

568
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: especially if you get any hesitation. Maybe once he comes

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00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: back full speed, there's a little swelling. They will be

570
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: overly cautious with Patrick Mahomes, as they should be. But

571
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: there's another story that Andy Richson asked for a trade

572
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: and the culture like, yeah, we'll trade you. But here's

573
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: the problem. No one's trading for. And I was thinking

574
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: about this. J Justin Fields has not been a good

575
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: player obviously. Last year was a train wreck for the Jets.

576
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: When he was on the Bears, it didn't go that well.

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00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: I actually think he had some moments on the Steelers,

578
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: but clearly he has struggled to play quarterback at the

579
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: level in which I thought I loved him as a prospect.

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00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm like that speed, that arm, the game he had

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Speaker 1: against Clemson where he was throwing the bombs, Like listen,

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Speaker 1: I come from the Andy Reid Pat Hill traits, physical attributes.

583
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I love this guy. I was said

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Speaker 1: at the time the forty nine er should have drafted

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00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: him third. Overall, clearly I was wrong. Now they were

586
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: also wrong on the guy they drafted, but you would

587
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: have been wrong at every guy they drafted. Maybe mac

588
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: Jones would have turned into party doubt it, not as

589
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: good as an athlete, but regardless, but he got me thinking.

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00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: This is why people ask like, well, do you have

591
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: to evaluate every player? Yes, you evaluate every player in

592
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: the draft because you never know when they're gonna become available.

593
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: In your evaluating every player in the league, and that's

594
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: not just how they're playing, but talking to other coaches,

595
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: what's this guy? Like? The number one thing that happens

596
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: at the combine is talking like what's this guy? Like?

597
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: I was out with different coaches. I'm constantly how's he,

598
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: how's he? What's he like? And you hear great things

599
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: like I fucking love this guy. Because a couple of

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00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: times I was out of the combine talking with the

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00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: guy and I had a negative thought about the player.

602
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I've heard some things. He's like, no, bro,

603
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: you're wrong, He's awesome, or vice versa like that guy's

604
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: a badass. You're like, oh, total pain in the ass,

605
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: and that talk spreads like wildfire. And think about this,

606
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. You could argue there's way more untapped potential

607
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: in him than Justin Fields played way less. You would

608
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: say Anthony Richardson is physically more gifted. Neither of them

609
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: have proven to play the quarterback position well. Obviously Fields

610
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: has played way more. But the Chiefs who really value

611
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: clearly character the right guy, especially at the quarterback position,

612
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: win after Justin Fields. And this gets back to everything

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00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: you do matters. I just saw this clip of who

614
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: is it? Golish, the new coach at Auburn, and I

615
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: get these reels come up on Instagram and it was

616
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: it might have been his first team meeting during spring practice,

617
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: and his message was everything you do, from how you

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00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: meet to how you conduct yourself on campus, to how

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00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: you take a rep in practice, to how you sit

620
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: in the classroom to how you treat women around campus,

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00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: everything matters. And that is so true and nothing is

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00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: more true about like Anthey Richson has done himself, no favors,

623
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Speaker 1: none the tapping out last year, He's the guy asking

624
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: for a trade. It's like let them just trade you.

625
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, meanwhile, has done everything the right way. He

626
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: has handled every situation and listen, he's by no means

627
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: been perfect on the field, but it's pretty easy. A

628
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: lot of guys haven't been perfect on the field, on

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00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: the court, on the diamond, and they also are paining

630
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: the ass off the field. It's like, this guy's not

631
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: even worth it. But Justin Field's going back to Ryan Poles.

632
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Remember when they traded him to the Steelers after they

633
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: drafted Kayleb Williams, or might have been just before, I

634
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: can't remember. The timeline. Ryan Poles was like, it was

635
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: a really important to me to do right by this

636
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: guy because of how he acted, and then the way

637
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers thing happened, it was like, we like

638
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: this guy. Weird things happened. Tomlin was loyal to Russell

639
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: Wilson for some weird reasons, and even last year with

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Speaker 1: the Jets, it never felt like he was being a

641
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, just a pain, being just a clown,

642
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: just being bitter, which would have been easy to be. Instead,

643
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: he just handled himself like a pro. And when the

644
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: dust settles, a team needs a quarterback and there are

645
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: other guys that kind of fit this mold for Andy

646
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: Reid and Veach to take a flyer on. They chose

647
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: the guy that did everything that he could control off

648
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: the field the right way, that conducted himself the right way.

649
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: And this gets back to everything matters. Now. Listen, I

650
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: think about this, and by no means I'm perfect. You're

651
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: not perfect. None of us are perfect. But how you

652
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: conduct yourself and how you treat people in whatever business

653
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: you're in goes a long way. Because most of our

654
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: industries are relatively small, and people know other people, people talk.

655
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: It's never been easier to communicate. And I think there's

656
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: a great example of like Justin Fields is a character

657
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: guy in the NFL has been fucking awesome and he's

658
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: getting these chances despite his play not being great because

659
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: of that. And the other guy, Anthony Richardson, like no

660
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: one wants to touch him. Yeah, don't even want to

661
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: deal with that. That's the guy that tapped tapped out

662
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: and created a problem and then asked for trade. Not

663
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: really into that. The other thing is I saw this

664
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: clip of each he was talking with with Peter Schrager

665
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: and they were talking about Kelsey and this is what

666
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated by the draft is this is well

667
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: known and Jason was kind of like this. I think

668
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: Travis was worth He would have been considered a character

669
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: guy coming out of college, and that just means like

670
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: a red flag, and a red flag doesn't mean you've

671
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: been arrested or beat some woman or crash the cars.

672
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, there's some issues, you know, some issues.

673
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: And Beach is like, the coolest part about this is

674
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: he was a character guy. It's why he should have

675
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: gone way higher in the draft. But now he's like

676
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: the team captain, team leader in the heart and soul

677
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: of our franchise. And this is why in every draft.

678
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: Because I don't blame Cunningham, Matt Ryan Stefanski, they did

679
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: not draft James Pearce. So they're being asked about this situation,

680
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: which I think is more than fair for people to

681
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: ask him about it. And I think if Raheem Morris

682
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: and font knowing the people that had drafted him, they

683
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: would deserve it should be the number one question like

684
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: why did you guys do that way? These guys didn't

685
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: make that move, they inherited this situation. There's not much

686
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: they can say, probably out of their control. He's gonna

687
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: go to jail. But there's a reason people take risks

688
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: in the draft because there are a lot of examples

689
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: of guys being character red flags then turning into Hall

690
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: of Fame team leader, team captains. Now it sounds stupid

691
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: because of twenty twenty six and most of us, depending

692
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: on where you live, can press a button and have

693
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: weed delivered to your house and you pay with a

694
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: credit card. Obviously, there are some states where that's not allowed.

695
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: I think Alabama that the basketball player got in trouble. Now,

696
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: granted he had like multiple pounds of weed, so I

697
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: think there are rules on selling and taxes. But regardless,

698
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: Honey Badger got kicked out of LSU for weed, which

699
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: used to get guys kicked out of school, guys suspended.

700
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: It seems seems like one hundred years ago, but that

701
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: was that long ago, and he was a guy that

702
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: fell to the third round and within a couple of

703
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: years on a fantastic Cardinal team, Patrick Peterson said he's

704
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: our leader, and then he went to the Texans team captain.

705
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: Then he went to the Chiefs team captain. So we

706
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: have examples of guys who every single year are like,

707
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: I don't know about this guy. And what Veach said

708
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: is when you can bring this guy into a culture

709
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: and put him around other adults, other winning players, other

710
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: people that do it the right way, you could shape

711
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: those guys in the right direction and put them on

712
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: a path to become their best version of themselves. And

713
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: this is how people think. And there are gonna be

714
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: guys in this draft that are major red flags that

715
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: fall to the second and the third round, and teams

716
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: take chances on them. And the reason we'll be in

717
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: that draft room is like, look at this example. Look

718
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: at this example, and a lot of guys won't turn

719
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: their life around and will not live up to their potential,

720
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: but some of them will. And even going back to

721
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: like on the field, there's a reason Anthony Richardson was

722
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: drafted fourth overall because you went, look at josh Allen.

723
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't any good in college, he wasn't any accurate,

724
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: and look at what they did with that potential and

725
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: look what he turned into. So in these draft meetings

726
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: over the course of the next couple of weeks, besides, like,

727
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: once you get to guys like Jeremiah Love, there's nothing

728
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: to say elited everything, high character guy, you know, Fernando

729
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: Mendozo like going one, some of these other pass rushers,

730
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: like they're all going top ten. The conversations really get

731
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: into once you get in the thirties, the forties, the fifties,

732
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: the sixties. It's like, well, this guy's got this, and

733
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: this guy's got this, but he does this well in

734
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: his ceilings this, and you're dealing with human beings. And

735
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: some guys get in a position to become Travis Kelcey,

736
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: to become the Honey Badger, and some guys and listen,

737
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing those two guys to James Pierce because

738
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: everyone's issues are different, but some guys turned into that,

739
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you have a fucking disaster

740
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: on your hands. You have something that you have to

741
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: answer to and deal with constantly, and until you remove

742
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: him from your roster, it's still your problem. So I

743
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: it's it was always my favorite part of the draft

744
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: in that process, when I worked in the team or

745
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: when I talked to my buddies to this day, what's

746
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: he like, how's he wired? Like? What's his deal? Not like, oh,

747
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: he's he's great playing uh drop coverage, He's excellent in zone,

748
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: like yeah, I mean clearly that shit matters. But once

749
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: you have the requisite talent, like how are you wired?

750
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: What do you like? And sometimes you hear stories like hey,

751
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: he's kind of immature, But I actually don't think he's

752
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: a bad guy. I think he's a good guy, and

753
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: I think he really likes football. And that's one of

754
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: those things that is a defining thing during the draft process.

755
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: How much does he like it, because you gotta like

756
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: it a lot. It's taxing mentally, it's taxing physically, taxing

757
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: on your time once the season starts. You know, at

758
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: the beginning of August, in training camp or late July,

759
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: you don't really have much time to take a breath air.

760
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: You get you get tuesdays off, but even one of those,

761
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: you're in the training room, you're in cold tubs, you're relaxing,

762
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: like you're not doing that much occasional night out with

763
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: the boys. But it is a lot of football twenty

764
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: four to seven for six straight months, and if you're

765
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: on a good team, they are depending on you to

766
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: make plays. Even if you're on a bad team, guys

767
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: will get injured and you will eventually play. There's nowhere

768
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: to hide, and it's what makes this process so fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Do I have anything else? One of the funniest stories

770
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: I saw today is that Todd Monkin missed the coaching

771
00:42:53,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: picture because he was getting a haircut, which it's just hilarious.

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00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: You know, there is a decent chance. I wouldn't bet

773
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: on it, but I'd say it's closer to fifty to

774
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: fifty than it is to ten percent that this is

775
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: Todd Munkins's only time in his career that he's gonna

776
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to be in that picture, because I

777
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: think we'd all have to agree there's a chance that

778
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: the Browns are bad this year and don't win many

779
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: games and are really really just a tough watch, and

780
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: anytime a football team is just awful, it's unavoidable. Is

781
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: this guy gonna get fired? I mean, Aaron Glenn went

782
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: from the toast of the town with the Lions. It's like,

783
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: this guy's a badass. He can run the defense the

784
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: players like him to. By the end of the Jets season,

785
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: it's like, how's this guy survive? I don't think he

786
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: can survive. And it felt like he's holding on for

787
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: dear life. And I think if we were all betting

788
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: men right now, we'd say, would it shock you if

789
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: I told you Aaron Glenn doesn't make it a Thanksgiving.

790
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to, but they're gonna suck

791
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: their quarterback position. He said that Gino Smith's gonna be

792
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: the guy to lead him to the Promised Land. It

793
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: could be really, really ugly and all of a sudden

794
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: you're fired and it's so bad and it's so toxic.

795
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: You're just like, it's gonna be hard for you to

796
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 1: become a head coach again within the next couple of years.

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00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: And Todd Munkin's an older guy, didn't feel like he

798
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: was ever gonna become a coach gets his haircut at

799
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: this event, which you know coaches when I worked for

800
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: the Eagles, we used to and this is back when

801
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: I had here. We had a guy come. It was

802
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: either Monday or Tuesday. It was probably once every three weeks,

803
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: maybe once a month, and you would just sign a

804
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: piece of paper and get on the list with the

805
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: coaches and the scouts and you would just get your haircut.

806
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: And I can't remember if it was comped or you

807
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: just have to tip the guy, but that's how most

808
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: of these things work right When you see Laflora's hair perfect,

809
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: like he's not going to supercuts, he's getting his haircut

810
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: at the facility. So these guys are used to that.

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00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: Coaches as well. You would think that Todd would have

812
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: got his haircut before he went to Arizona so he

813
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had to deal with this. It is pretty

814
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: funny that his potentially his one time to get a

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00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: picture to say I was an NFL head coach. If

816
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: I was him, I would frame that thing up there

817
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: with the Harbaughs, just the Andy like Vrabel. I would

818
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: keep that picture forever. Now he doesn't have the possibility

819
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: because he missed it and his timing, whatever the agenda,

820
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: someone fucked up, could have been him, could have been

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00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: his PR guy, and now he didn't make the picture.

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Speaker 1: This segment is Change of Scenery sponsor by my friends

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Speaker 1: at Toyota, John Lynch. You know Juwan Jennings who has

824
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: been a key figure on the forty nine ers for years.

825
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: He's stepped up in their biggest games over the course

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Speaker 1: of their run with Perdy going back to Jimmy Garoppolo,

827
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: from double passes to blocks in the run game. He

828
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: has just been a key role player for the forty

829
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: nine ers. Last year. In the offseason, he started seeing

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00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: all these guys over the course of their careers holding out.

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00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: He realized Ayuk was injured, he might have a little leverage,

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00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: and he kind of caused a stink. He wanted a

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00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: big raise, even though the forty nine ers had just

834
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: given him a contract extension. They gave him like two

835
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: years fifteen million dollars when they were bidding against nobody.

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Speaker 1: They actually just took care of him because they liked

837
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: the guy, and he became a problem in the off season.

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00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: Then he kind of shaped in and he was like, Okay,

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00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it, but he was never really cool

840
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: with it. And then this free agency happened, which I

841
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: thought he'd been a winning player, he would get picked

842
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: up pretty quickly. The problem is, and as John Lynch acknowledged,

843
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: he's not going to be back. He's gonna find a

844
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: home and be good somewhere else. But he doesn't have

845
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: a home because I think he has a false sense

846
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: of his market. He's seen all these wide receivers make

847
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five thirty million dollars and he goes, well, listen,

848
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: I might not be one of the thirty million dollar guys,

849
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: but I could make sixteen million dollars. And as someone

850
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: told me at the combine, people around the league, if

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Speaker 1: you're not their guy, don't value the ability to block,

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00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: don't value the ability to just make tough catches. If

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00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: your name's not like DeAndre Hopkins, you got to be

854
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: able to get open if I'm going to pay you

855
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: any money. And you see this guy who has been

856
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: in some of the biggest games in the NFL over

857
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: the course of the last four or five years, just unemployed.

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00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: And this isn't one of those older guys who's kind

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00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: of holding out. This isn't Odell Beckham, who has been

860
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: out of the league but then dominated flag football. Was

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00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: at the owners meetings meeting with John Harbaugh. I think

862
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that Odell Beckham's probably gonna end back

863
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: up on the Giants, which actually would be pretty cool.

864
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: Shanahandle the Floor both acknowledged like he was the best

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Speaker 1: NFL player that played against the flag football guys because

866
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: of his athleticism and kind of changing directions. And at

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00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: this point in time, like Odell has no leverage. So

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Speaker 1: if they go, hey, we'll offer you a one year

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00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: contract for the veteran minimum with the incentives to make

870
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: five or six million dollars. What's he gonna say? No?

871
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: But some of these guys go, I'm not taking that money.

872
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: It happened to Trey Hendrickson right during the Max Crosby fiasco,

873
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: when he went, you know, I'm a forty million dollar

874
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: pass rusher, and the NFL said, no, you're not, and

875
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: he ended up getting I think like twenty five twenty

876
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: six million dollars a year and sixty million dollars guaranteed,

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00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: so essentially like two year contract, right, But he had

878
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: a false sense of his market. But he still had

879
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: so much money in the line. He had to pivot,

880
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: and he had to pivot fast. I think some of

881
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: these guys struggle to pivot, and all of a sudden,

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00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: you see a guy like Juwan Jennings, it's like, is

883
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: he gonna find a home? He's played with half the

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00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: coaches throughout the NFL. They know him, they've coached him,

885
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: they've been in the building, and no one's signing him.

886
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: So when I say change of scenery, I don't know

887
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: where he's gonna end up, which to me is pretty crazy,

888
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: Like he's clearly like an NFL starting wide receiver, he's

889
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: clearly a winning player, but his value around the league

890
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: and what he feels his value is as a player

891
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: are not only not matching up, they feel like they're

892
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: in two different universes. Because at this point in time,

893
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: where almost to April, it's kind of unheard of. So

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00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: you have to wonder, is he's just gonna wait to

895
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: see who doesn't get wide receivers during the draft and

896
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: then hopefully kind of pounce and maybe just take whatever

897
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: they offered him, because at this point in time, when

898
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: guys get signed those first couple of days, because even

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00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: Trey he didn't get what he wanted, he's still got

900
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: a lot of money. It's, you know, it's a buyer's market,

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00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: a seller's market. Well, if the teams are the buyers

902
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: and the players and the agents are the sellers, those

903
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Speaker 1: first couple of days sellers market, you cash in, right,

904
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Speaker 1: we saw Linderbaum all these guys. If you're a decent player,

905
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: you make a ton of money. Well, as the weeks go,

906
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: who used to you know, chum these waters this time

907
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: of year. Belichick made a living off the second and

908
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: third kind of waves of free agency. Why because he

909
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: could get deals, He could get guys whose market was

910
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: way different than they thought, and he'd get for really cheap.

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00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: And that's what I imagine that a lot of good

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00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: teams are kind of circling, like, can we end up

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Speaker 1: getting this guy for like three or four million dollars

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Speaker 1: because he's going to be so desperate, And at this

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Speaker 1: point in time, it kind of feels like that's the case.

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