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Speaker 1: Dear Governor is a production of I Heart Media and

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Speaker 1: three Months Media. Dear Governor Newsom, Dear Mr Governor Newsom.

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Speaker 1: This is an open letter to Governor Gavin Newsom, Dear

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Speaker 1: Governor Newson Public. The second to last stop on the

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Speaker 1: cradle to prison pipeline and the very last stop before

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Speaker 1: juvenile offenders are sent to adult prison is the California

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Speaker 1: Youth Authority, charged with a series of offenses including skipping school, petty,

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Speaker 1: burglary and joy riding and stolen cars. At age fifteen,

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Speaker 1: Jarvis was sentenced to the c y A in Stockton, California,

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Speaker 1: a seven hour drive north from his Long Beach neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: This was an ample distance from his homies and former

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Speaker 1: life of crime to give him a new perspective on

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Speaker 1: self worth and potential. It was in Stockton for several

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Speaker 1: years that Jarvis earned his high school diploma and started

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Speaker 1: believing he may have a chance after all. But in time,

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Speaker 1: the lure of family and the familiar became too much

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Speaker 1: to bear, and little McCrae, once again a personal mentee

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Speaker 1: of Jarvis and an actor the Truth Workers Theater Company,

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Speaker 1: reading from Jarvis's autobiography that bird has My wings. I

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Speaker 1: struggled with this feeling of wanting to be with my

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Speaker 1: family and knowing where it will lead. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: return to who I was, to the life I knew

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Speaker 1: well all his pitfalls Southern California felt more real than

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Speaker 1: the life I was trying to create for myself at Stockton.

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Speaker 1: My visit home had loosened my resolve and made me

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Speaker 1: question all the good reasons I had sustained in Stockton

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Speaker 1: and winning a new life. I was losing everything that

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Speaker 1: connected me to my identity. Angrily, my mind stumbled and said,

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Speaker 1: of rational for letting go like a dolphine who makes

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Speaker 1: looking for a fix. I just I could be at them,

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Speaker 1: fool like the rest of them. To pay for a

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Speaker 1: bus ride down to his old stomping grounds, Jarvis sold

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Speaker 1: his most prized possession, his high school diploma, and he

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Speaker 1: recommitted to a life of the damn fool behavior that

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Speaker 1: eventually landed him in San Quentin Prison. Let's call, and

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Speaker 1: your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: get it right, you know, I couldn't get it right,

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Masters, I just couldn't get it right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was frustrated. I didn't want to I didn't want

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Speaker 1: losers to live. It was the worstest mistake I ever made,

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Speaker 1: and I knew it, and I didn't do nothing about it.

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Speaker 1: So this night year old kids, you went around any

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Speaker 1: more people that he hadn't seen for many, many years,

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Speaker 1: and she walked away from a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: he knew right off that that, you know, his minds

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Speaker 1: me trained not to mess with, you know, guns and dope,

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Speaker 1: and so I walked away from that. But then everywhere

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Speaker 1: we went, it was right there at me. So I

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Speaker 1: started helping my brother out. You know, he was selling

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Speaker 1: herouina at that time, and he showed me where where

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Speaker 1: all the guns were, you know, and he gave me

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Speaker 1: a few, and I never gave him back to him.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever shoot anybody before? You know what? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I did. No, I shot at someone. Yeah, I shot

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Speaker 1: at someone. But that's a story. And that bird has

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Speaker 1: my wings. Where these guys coming back to me and

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Speaker 1: another guy and we just got tired of being followed Chase,

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Speaker 1: so we came around the building with its blazy. The

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Speaker 1: next day we learned that we fired bullets into the house.

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Speaker 1: The car had been parked in front of There have

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Speaker 1: while they slept. I thought, we're horrid about what almost done.

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Speaker 1: been given the miracle. I didn't have to live with

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Speaker 1: It was definitely not me, but I own it, you know.

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Speaker 1: So at the time, did you feel any remorse for

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Speaker 1: I was always around people who have done far worse,

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Speaker 1: what remorse meant. You know, I know I felt sad

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Speaker 1: I remember that then in many many ways, on many

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Speaker 1: ways that we don't understand our life. In an ironic way,

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Speaker 1: it helped me get to a place which had to

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Speaker 1: and I found what it was like to experience someone

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Speaker 1: being robbed. You know, I got to the point where

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Speaker 1: It was real scary. What was the initial sentence? Twenty

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Speaker 1: one years twenty one years for sixteen Council of our robbery. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they said we were sending you to Saint Quentin.

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Speaker 1: San Quentin State Prison, Maximum Security correctional facility for men,

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Speaker 1: opened in eighteen fifty four, California's oldest prison, the state's

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Speaker 1: only facility that conducts executions, is ironically situated overlooking the

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Speaker 1: serene beauty that there's a San Francisco Bay. In the eighties,

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Speaker 1: when Jarvis was first incarcerated, it was an extremely dangerous

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Speaker 1: in order to subdue the revolt. Twenty two inmates and

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Speaker 1: four corrections officers were seriously injured as a result. Is

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Speaker 1: it as violent now as it was back in the eighties. No,

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Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. It's not violence, No,

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Speaker 1: not at all, not even close. I've been an observer

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Speaker 1: that that that you know, this thing here, you know,

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Speaker 1: and there's so many things that changes the culture. I

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Speaker 1: honestly think someone in the Department of correct this is

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Speaker 1: in a state of shots. See how giving it makes

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Speaker 1: the ability to communicate with their families and ways that

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Speaker 1: at graduations. And you know, I'm talking about what I'm

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Speaker 1: basically talking about access to phones, cell phones, regular phones.

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Speaker 1: I mean that day you didn't have that, you know,

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Speaker 1: not finding weapons, you finding cell phones. You're not finding

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Speaker 1: those things because people are reconnecting to their life, you know,

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Speaker 1: have now. Currently in California, it costs a dollar twenty

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Speaker 1: that's a medium cost compared to other states. The Prison

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Speaker 1: Policy Initiative recommends reducing phone costs or making calls altogether

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Speaker 1: free to help inmates keep in touch with their families,

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Speaker 1: one of the most effective factors when it comes to

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Speaker 1: want to speak with their families. And to use that

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Speaker 1: right move. And I think they turn that right and uh,

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Speaker 1: the right way. There's not so much fall privileges. It's

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Speaker 1: I don't think they really really understand how special that is.

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Speaker 1: Sister Helen Prejeon, author of dead Man Walking Rights. Jarvis j.

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Speaker 1: Masters was set on a dangerous course which eventually brought

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Speaker 1: him to death Row. Somehow, within those walls, he now

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Speaker 1: demonstrates divine grace in his daily life and by the

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Speaker 1: cautionary tales he shares. I asked Jarvis, after a lifetime

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Speaker 1: impetus for him to change? I started reading these books

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Speaker 1: I I was trying to really find where I fit in.

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Speaker 1: had to learn how to respect that as a starting point.

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Speaker 1: So what else I wanted to do with that? So

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Speaker 1: I had a lot of restarts, man, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: what I used to call them, restarts. Let's do this

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Speaker 1: all over again, make it yours. You're given a response

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Speaker 1: my name is Corny Cole, and we're creating a podcast

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Speaker 1: that is focusing on the life of Jarvis Masters. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So tell me what you remember when you first met Jarvis.

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Speaker 1: to Governor Gavin Newsom from Marty Krasny of Saslito. Dear

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Speaker 1: Governor Newsom, first off, thank you and congratulations for your

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Speaker 1: courageous and admirable decision to establish a moratorium on the

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Masters. I can always to pendle Marty. You know,

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Speaker 1: Quite Simply, I believe that the conviction resulted from a

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Speaker 1: It would be a bold move to Exonera H. R.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for considering it, with admiration, gratitude, and warm regards,

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Speaker 1: Marty Krasny. As we continue to anxiously await the California

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Speaker 1: Next week, Jarvis will open up about his very personal

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Speaker 1: Today's episode was written and produced by Donni Fazzari and myself,

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Speaker 1: Corny Cole. Our theme song sentenced his compliments of the

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Speaker 1: Stu Sternbach composed the original music. Nate Defort did the

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Speaker 1: dear Governor newsom petition, and if you have questions for Jarvis,

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