WEBVTT - Sean Garrett 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:03.040 R and B Money. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:13.680 Honey, we are thanks take volatility. We are the authority 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:18.759 on all things R and B. Ladies and gentlemen. My 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:20.600 name is Chank. I'm Jay Valentine. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.480 Oh and this yeah, yeah. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:29.000 This is the R and B Money Podcast, The Lord 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:36.280 on all Things R and B. Yes, sir ah. When 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:40.960 you when you go to school, you know, and then 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.320 and then they give you your work, you know, the 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:49.440 you you start off with a pencil, okay, okay, and 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.600 then when you're good enough, when you graduate, you graduate, 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:54.920 they give you a pen. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:56.480 A pen. Huh. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:01.680 Some people got the pen, some people got dumpin. Yeah, 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:07.200 it ain't up pin, it's it's far from ballpoint. Yeah, 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.280 it's far from felt. Yeah. This one of pins. Back 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:15.560 in the day. He used to stick it in, put 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:16.920 it in the ink, and then coming and then you 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.760 write real nice, like you was writing the Declaration of 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.280 Independence of pen expensive pinea. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:29.600 Mike shot Garrett depend. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.280 Y'all can get the hell out of my comments and 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:44.479 dems asking me for shine. Garrett, he's here, listen. I 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:50.080 remember I remember us doing uh R and B Live 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:56.080 together one night at at it used to be snatch 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.920 in Hollywood upstairs. Yeah, and they had a lot that 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.040 live live night, live performance night. It was me. I 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.960 think Jen, I might have been there too, and I 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:16.519 watched you perform and give out Louis Vauton. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:21.639 I had never seen that. Yeah, And I said, the 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.320 pen has a lot of money, a lot of money 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.280 to just be giving away a lot of money. Louis 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:34.480 Vaton bags to a woman who screams the loudest. You 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.120 don't even know, You don't know. I need my whole 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:42.160 back in Okay, I needed my whole. It wasn't much, 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:47.680 but I needed it. You didn't need it. You you 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.880 had spent more on the persons than probably the gig 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:51.480 was paying you. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:03:03.560 Well, I did need it, and I got it. What's up. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.840 Man? Listen, brother, this is a fine leather coat. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:10.399 Yeah. 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:13.799 I had to get right for the guys. You know 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.519 what I'm saying, this little R and B. You know, 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.800 I had to get real R and B. Tyson Beckford 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.200 like you. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:20.880 You know what I'm saying. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.440 You know when you when you when you get around 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.720 your real R and B brothers, I'm I'm and for 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.840 you for you, for your new R and B guys. 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.560 I'm talking about real R and B, real R and 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.400 B guys. I had a conversation with one of my 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:39.360 youngsters today. He was like, Sean, you know, I see 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:43.000 why we're not really popping like like like like the 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.200 real R and B artists. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.400 I said, what he said, man were singing to were 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:52.520 singing the girls man who who don't really don't really 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.320 who don't really care about R and B. I said, no, no, no, no, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.000 the problem is y'all got to get your way up. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.720 Y'all. Not acting real y'all, y'all, you're not acting like real, 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.560 like like like real R and B superstars. You know 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.640 what I'm saying, Like like like what are you, Like, 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:13.800 is your bag right. 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:15.400 Are you? 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.760 Are you pulling up right? Like like can you hold 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.599 it down? Like like like the real R and B superstars, 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.960 Like like like they held it, they could hold it down. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.919 You know what I'm saying. You know, the rappers just 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.400 taking over y'all. They're just taking over y'all, y'all, your 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:32.839 whole area, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:37.240 Like it's a certain level, it's a certain level of 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:42.400 stomp down. Yeah, you got an R and B artist 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.680 gotta do it, has to have, Yeah, stomp down, That's 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.040 what I'm gonna roll. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:47.400 With that one. 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:48.760 It's a certain level. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.560 They gotta be over in Atlanta, we say get down, 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:57.600 you gotta get you know, they gotta believe. They gotta 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:58.520 believe all of it. 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:02.240 Yea that when but when y'all hit the mall, it's 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.359 going up just as well as when you hit the 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.680 bedroom is going going up. 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.640 Yeah, and you can't be you know, you running one 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:19.440 hundred and forty two pounds. Push what I'm telling you? 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.680 Tell them? I'm like I said, look, first of all, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.680 young you got to get in the jimi. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.760 Because you can't be skinny and not have a six pack. 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.440 Skinny at least have a six pack something. 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.200 But you can't have a six pack and can't throw 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:36.000 nothing around. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.159 You gotta be able to throw something around. You gotta believe. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.200 You throw it around like you got to throw her 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:43.080 all around. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:45.280 They don't believe. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.480 They don't believe. And he's like, yo, the girls are 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.680 just talking to us, crazy, talking to. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.720 Us because she with a stump down there. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.440 Yeah, ain't nobody see that? 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.600 I said, listen, R Kelly started a record like this, 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.599 shut up again? 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.120 It did it did? 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.240 I don't want to ever hear you say that I'm 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.200 I'm ever leaving you shut up? You shut that up. 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.839 Yeah, they don't. They really don't understand the essence of 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.800 R and B. That's that's the problem. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:27.400 It starts with understanding the essence of a woman. Okay, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.520 it starts there. How many as I'm gonna allude to 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.440 something that I ain't gonna give it away? What what 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:38.040 kind of conversations are you having with women? That's how 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:39.920 you build an R and B singer? What do you 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:41.520 know about with women? 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:42.000 Yes? 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.440 I get it. You you know a lot about your gens, 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.840 got it, got it? You know, you know a lot 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.960 about the or, you know a lot about Louis got it, 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.320 got it? You know a lot about cars. What do 0:06:53.360 --> 0:07:00.000 you know about women? That's how you define R and B? Yeah, 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.640 how well you can relate to women? Because women. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:07.760 They need to do an R and B seminar. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:15.000 Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, and give and give and give the information, 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.480 get them back on track and give away Louis bag. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:27.120 I was like, because in essence, what what what the 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.280 What the rappers have done is they've they've taken the 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.480 stomp down part of it, but they don't necessarily need 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:37.320 the finesse no more because they don't have because they 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:38.560 don't have any competition. 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:45.800 You ain't got to get you ain't gotta get intellectual. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.880 There's no there's no opposing, there's no other choice. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.720 Right, got to get creative. 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:53.880 They don't have to get creative. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.240 And what do we creative? That's what we do. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:07:59.520 So we got to be about to figure out a 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.200 way to be come additive, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:04.280 Yeah, it's on the way. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:11.680 Yeah, let's talk about the man. Let's let's go to 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.760 the pens inception man. Yes, let's go to the beginning 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.680 of the pin, when it was, when it was maybe 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.640 it's never been a pen. So maybe it's always been 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.280 a pin. Maybe you just were born with a pin. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.040 Where does this start? Sean, give me, give me, give me, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.040 seven eight year old Sean Garrett. What's going on? 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.760 All right? You know, the seven eight year old Shawn 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.240 Garrett is pretty much you know, I got to give all, 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.480 you know, rest in peace with my mom. You know, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.480 I've had I talk about my mom all the time, 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.920 you know, But the true essence, going back to the 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.720 true essence of a woman, I mean, the tru essence 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.600 of Sean Garrett is just my mom. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:54.880 Man. 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:59.200 Wow, honestly, man, my mother's everything was everything to me. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:05.960 She she she instilled me so many different aspects of 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:12.520 being a man, being responsible, how to take care of 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.560 your kids, how to be strong, how to not let 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:23.000 someone take you off your block, how to be a provider, 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:31.520 how to be a warrior. So, you know, I think 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:36.439 I think part of you know, good, bad or indifferent. 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.719 I think the essence of what Sean Garrett is is 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:45.280 is is all my mom. Ridy Elaine, Man, You know, 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:52.840 I lost my mother early in my life, but I felt, like, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.959 you know, I lived two or three lifetimes with her 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.440 as a child, as a young man, and my dad, 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.520 you know, shout out to my dad. I love your dad. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.120 My dad was very instrumental. But my dad was so 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:13.280 good at being a team player. I don't know if 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:18.320 my dad always knew that he was second. It probably 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:24.520 sounds crazy, but he had no problem playing his part 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.920 as the co star because everybody in the house knew 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:35.040 that mama was it was the superstar. But she was 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:46.200 willing to literally die for her kids and purpose. And 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.480 so I think when you grew up in a household 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:53.280 like I did, and being so bilateral, like you know, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.600 my life, you know being from Atlanta, Georgia, you know 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.120 Cambilton role, my mom from Perry Holmes, my dad as 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.240 from Philly. My dad's military. My mom was in the 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.960 military before I was born. Then she worked for the government. 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:14.360 That transition of what we call real life in America 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.800 and being able to translate and operate around the world 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:24.920 from a global mindset of being an African American, all 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:35.760 those different innuendos made the pen right and it gave 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.120 me so much, so much diversity. Like I'm a very 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.959 diverse person, but at the same time, I'm very true 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:49.120 to myself, true to my heritage, true to my culture, 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:54.319 true to my essence. So I would I would probably 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:58.240 say I could definitely be a complicated person. Right, There's 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.960 a lot of there's a lot of dynamics to what 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.800 made me. But I'm very proud of every as every 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:11.319 aspect of it because you know, no one knows. You know, 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.320 I didn't ask to be born, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.160 I just happened to be born, and I happened to 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.040 be born with those parents, and I happened to be 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.640 born with that experience, and I had I had no 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.440 choice at five years old to decide if I'm going 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:27.240 to Germany or not. Right, Yeah, it's like, no, We're 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.920 going to Germany. And yeah, I did cry, I did complain. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.320 I did in those days. It was what it was. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:34.720 It was what it was. You're doing? 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.120 What How long were y'all in Germany. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.520 Until I was twenty years old? Nineteen years old? 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.640 From five to twenty Yeah, so do you speak German? 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:45.880 Yeah? 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:55.440 Say Deutsch? Zigut no ship yeah, no idea yeah, And so, uh, 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:01.600 that experience is the reason why some of the time 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.880 when I came back to America and started to uh 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:11.240 sort of navigate amongst my peers, I seemed a bit intense. 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:18.960 Of course, you was German. You know. The crazy part 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:25.679 is I was African American living in Germany, right right. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:30.000 My high school school, my high school trip, my high 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:36.080 school senior class school trip was in Spain. It's just 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:43.480 different for two weeks wild Yeah, you know, so. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:48.400 Twitter, you went to every school in Germany, Yeah, elementary. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.679 Middle, and yeah, exactly, And and I really didn't have 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.160 an opportunity to. And so when I would come back 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.320 to America to see my family, it was like I 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.640 was always like I got a cousin too. My cousin 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:10.280 who married uh is now is now married, y'all know 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.640 to Lewis, I know, Okay, we'll talk about that in 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.680 a second. But my cousin too, I just met literally 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:22.480 met too, probably about three or four years ago, right, 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.400 And he's my cousin's been my cousin my whole life, right, 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:35.560 He's my he's my my, my mother's oldest sister. Is 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.640 that he's my first cousin, first cousin. Yeah, so we 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.080 didn't even know each other. He's in the music business. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.640 He does really really well. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:45.440 Too. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:47.480 Yeah, I'll explain. 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.600 I'll explain not to Clark, no, I know to Clark. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:54.240 Yeah, but but that's my cousin and I love him dearly, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.080 and he's amazing. He's super smart, and we probably are 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:02.120 probably just as town, right, But he's on the executive side, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.480 music side. But Mama had a big family, thirteen brothers 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.120 and sisters. But the bottom line is that I didn't 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.280 get a chance to spend a lot of time with 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:17.080 my family in America. I spent more time outside of America, right, 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:24.760 And so the adjustment for me to be able to adapt, 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.400 like I was able to get into the music game 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:35.120 and go to hyper speed creatively, but to be very honest, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:40.040 on a personal level, there was a disconnect. And I 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.440 think that's probably sometimes where the disconnect comes with me 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.280 when it comes to my people, right, And I love 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:50.000 my people like dearly like I love my people, but 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.440 there's a slight I've realized there's a slight disconnect. My 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:58.240 understanding of what blue looks like and your understanding of 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:02.520 what blue is is completely different, right, which which also 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.280 is what makes us great together. So my mindset has 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.320 always been opposite subtract. So when I meet someone that's 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.080 completely different than me, whether they look like me or 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.560 they don't look like me, it's attractive to me, right, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:25.320 because it's like, wow, I've never experienced that. Hey, let's collaborate. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.880 And that is the example of why I've collaborated with 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.520 so many different people and made so many different hit 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:38.040 records and so much different type of energy, because that's 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.240 all I had to go on. And so, and that's 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:45.280 the reason why it's not so fair to judge people 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:50.000 from what you don't understand. Right, It's like shit, you know, 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:53.400 It's like it's like shit, you black, I'm black. You 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:59.160 understand Colin Greens and fried Chicken and you know, barbecues, 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.120 and but no, it's not always. 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.240 Many shades of us. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.480 It's many shades of us. It's even even more shades. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.280 We're starting to see how the translation from Africa, you know, 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.320 from the Nigerians to all the South Africans and all 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.440 of this, this this intense music. The reason why the 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.440 music is so good is because it's always been great. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.760 It's always been amazing. It's just being able to mesh 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:31.280 at this point, it's just amazing, right, And that that 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:36.879 was That's what my experience was, and it was sort of, uh, 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.400 it's sort of complicated to explain to people, but that's 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.879 how my world was, right, and so I was. I 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.000 always felt like a foreigner to a certain extent, you 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.080 know what I'm saying. And so man, I tried my 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:54.879 best to do the best I could man to mesh 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.760 and learn and grow, and I didn't have it figured 0:17:58.760 --> 0:17:59.520 out all the time. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.280 How are you receiving the music in Germany? 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:09.040 Well, in Europe, you know, Americans listen to what they 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:16.080 call AFN, which is an Armed Forces Network. Basically, we 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.399 have one radio station and it's the biggest pop songs 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.919 in the world. So we don't have a we never. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:25.840 It's just the biggest song. It's not R and B, 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.600 it's not country, it's not it's all of it. It's 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.280 whatever is the biggest. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:30.480 The biggest. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.320 So all you're hearing is hits. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:36.360 All I'm hearing is hits. That's great, Okay, And that 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.719 is how I was designed. 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:39.960 They're programming you. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:46.120 Yeah, whether that's programming or or yeah, whether you look 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.280 at that as a program or you look at that 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.720 as all you got. 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.560 Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, because you know, 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:59.680 we're most times creatures of our environment. Yeah, so you're 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.439 not the fluff. Yeah, you're not getting the fluff. I 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.240 never and I and you know what, but I found 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.720 that to be I found that to be. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:16.320 A very interesting perspective because like I would run into 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:23.960 somebody like you Jay or you Tank who you guys 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.840 are still my essence of my of my my my 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.960 core essence right where I'm from of course, right, and 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.600 what what made me? You know, my mom? My mom 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.200 and dad got married at Eban He's a Baptist church, 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.680 you know what I'm saying. So like, let's not get 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.479 it confused, but my mom and dad also met on 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:48.199 Fort Macpherson, which is the Army base the tyler Perry bought. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:50.840 Is that where his lot is now? Yes, that's an 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:51.480 old army base. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.680 You know what I'm saying. Okay, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.680 So my and I'm from Atlanta, like I'm a real 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:03.000 at helium too, right, But imagine that man imagining now 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:07.360 now and then in my house, my mom was still 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:16.080 from Parry Homes, Germany or Australia. 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:16.760 You know what I'm saying. 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.240 You're gonna get that. Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.080 So it never really left, but we were living in 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:28.399 a household in a completely different country. So and every 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.800 you know, my mom and every morning my mother was 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.840 very uh you know, she's very musical, man, Like you know, 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.040 you know, like she'll be playing, like in the morning 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:41.480 times we'll be playing Gloria Estefan. I'll be hearing, you know, 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.119 the a FN station. It's it's I mean, it's it's going, 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:46.120 you know what i mean, six thirty in the morning, 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.159 we get ready for school, it's going and it's straight 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.000 a FN. You know what I'm saying, right, said Fred 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:57.280 Gloria Estefan. Hey, man, it could be anything. You know 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:03.919 what I'm saying. Number one hits right now, when I 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:08.040 come home and it gets eight o'clock, nine o'clocks, my 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:12.879 mom putting on Patty LaBelle. She putting on Patty. You 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:16.800 know what I'm saying. She playing the whispers as a 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:17.520 big goons. 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:18.640 You know what I'm saying. 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.679 I mean, you know what I mean. You know, so 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.520 you know, it's a very diverse. My upbringing, man, was 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:30.320 just so unexplainable. Man. So I think sometimes when people 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:35.800 you know, and then you think about my back how 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.959 it was raised, and you know, uh, man, you know 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:45.080 my perspective of being in front of the camera. Like, yeah, 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:48.359 of course I knew I was amazing at music. I 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.199 know it was an artist like my whole life, I've 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.159 been through that. But I found that I found it 0:21:54.240 --> 0:22:00.320 intriguing coming into my adulthood. Man, I could like I 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:04.119 had a superpower, Like I can do songs for women 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.119 and men and for anybody. 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.040 There was a supper power. It's like I can make 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.720 Beyonce fly if he ever came in the room, I 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:16.600 won't make her crazy. So that's where you got them 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.199 songs of Ring the Alarming don't do that. 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:24.400 Yeah, we get here. 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:26.880 But I felt like I had this thing. 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.919 I had a thing and when did so, when did 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:30.880 you write your first song? 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.200 I probably just write my first songs when I was 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:38.600 about seven eight years old, for sure. Six just yeah, 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:42.840 And I didn't I didn't know how to. Now I 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.400 must admit, like I have a one of my gifts 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:50.200 is the ability whenever I hear drums, I can write 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:54.240 the melody like like the drums. Yes, I don't. I 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.080 don't need to. I don't need a core. I can 0:22:57.040 --> 0:23:04.040 actually hear melodic notes in my head in the feelings 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:07.120 like I'm a piscey, so I'm a I'm a very 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:12.439 emotional feeler, so I can feel notes. I don't need notes. 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.920 I can just take drums and I can write a 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:33.639 complete song over drums. I actually wrote yeah, over that 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:41.399 was the complete song over that fourward looping the club 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:46.080 in the home. You're gonna get a over here, Okay done? 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.119 I mean you can actually go pull up the demo. 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:59.800 But you know, and it's it's almost like you know, 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:04.879 realizing your true gifts and not knowing what you're realizing. 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.200 It's just and I was really good at sports too, 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.840 like so like baseball was really good at like baseball, 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.600 and football is really good at yeah. 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.320 So so do you break into do you have an 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:19.680 industry moment in in Germany? In Germany? 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.359 Yeah, so I ended up signing my first record deal 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:23.520 was fourteen. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.040 Okay, here we're going going on Many. 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:29.000 Me how you how no? No, no, no, I mean 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:29.800 we get that. 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:33.720 We were so fourteen years old you get a deal 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.480 out in Germany and how is the music business there? 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:42.159 So at this time I ended up My manager at 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:49.920 this time was one of the most successful African Americans, 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.760 I would say, And definitely in my city where. 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:56.119 I grew up. And we'll see to you from in Germany. 0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:00.880 Uh live in Newenburg and so I live in Numburg 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:07.160 and Mikes and Wisbaden and Munich. And at the time 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:11.000 I was singing, I was singing at these fests. I 0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.159 was singing at these what they call beer fest. I 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:14.720 was about to say Octobertober. 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:15.760 I've heard of that. 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:17.160 Yeah, so I was singing at. 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.879 These black kids singing at October. Yes, No, this is crazy. 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.160 Number two, it's crazy. I'm like thirteen years old. And 0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:27.760 there's this band of Gis what they call those are 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:30.920 those are you know, you know g I's are And 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.879 they're like twenty two to twenty three years old, twenty 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.080 four year old, twenty five year old band. And they're like, yo, dog, 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.040 you we want we want you to be the least 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.080 singer for it. And I was singing in top for 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.000 our top forty band and I was singing these Octoper 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:51.600 octoberfests and it's going crazy yeah, and I'm thinking, I 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:58.160 am you know, man, I'm living my life right. And 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:02.240 uh so this guy asked says to me, you know, hey, 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.960