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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: Honey, we are thanks take volatility. We are the authority

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Speaker 2: on all things R and B. Ladies and gentlemen. My

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Speaker 2: name is Chank. I'm Jay Valentine.

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Speaker 1: Oh and this yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is the R and B Money Podcast, The Lord

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Speaker 2: on all Things R and B. Yes, sir ah. When

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Speaker 2: you when you go to school, you know, and then

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Speaker 2: and then they give you your work, you know, the

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Speaker 2: you you start off with a pencil, okay, okay, and

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Speaker 2: then when you're good enough, when you graduate, you graduate,

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Speaker 2: they give you a pen.

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Speaker 1: A pen. Huh.

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Speaker 2: Some people got the pen, some people got dumpin. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it ain't up pin, it's it's far from ballpoint. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's far from felt. Yeah. This one of pins. Back

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Speaker 2: in the day. He used to stick it in, put

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Speaker 2: it in the ink, and then coming and then you

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Speaker 2: write real nice, like you was writing the Declaration of

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Speaker 2: Independence of pen expensive pinea.

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Speaker 1: Mike shot Garrett depend.

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Speaker 2: Y'all can get the hell out of my comments and

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Speaker 2: dems asking me for shine. Garrett, he's here, listen. I

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Speaker 2: remember I remember us doing uh R and B Live

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Speaker 2: together one night at at it used to be snatch

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Speaker 2: in Hollywood upstairs. Yeah, and they had a lot that

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Speaker 2: live live night, live performance night. It was me. I

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Speaker 2: think Jen, I might have been there too, and I

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Speaker 2: watched you perform and give out Louis Vauton. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I had never seen that. Yeah, And I said, the

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Speaker 2: pen has a lot of money, a lot of money

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Speaker 2: to just be giving away a lot of money. Louis

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Speaker 2: Vaton bags to a woman who screams the loudest. You

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Speaker 2: don't even know, You don't know. I need my whole

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Speaker 2: back in Okay, I needed my whole. It wasn't much,

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Speaker 2: but I needed it. You didn't need it. You you

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Speaker 2: had spent more on the persons than probably the gig

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Speaker 2: was paying you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I did need it, and I got it. What's up.

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Speaker 2: Man? Listen, brother, this is a fine leather coat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I had to get right for the guys. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, this little R and B. You know,

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Speaker 1: I had to get real R and B. Tyson Beckford

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Speaker 1: like you.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You know when you when you when you get around

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Speaker 1: your real R and B brothers, I'm I'm and for

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Speaker 1: you for you, for your new R and B guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about real R and B, real R and

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Speaker 1: B guys. I had a conversation with one of my

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Speaker 1: youngsters today. He was like, Sean, you know, I see

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Speaker 1: why we're not really popping like like like like the

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Speaker 1: real R and B artists.

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Speaker 4: I said, what he said, man were singing to were

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Speaker 4: singing the girls man who who don't really don't really

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Speaker 4: who don't really care about R and B. I said, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: the problem is y'all got to get your way up.

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Speaker 1: Y'all. Not acting real y'all, y'all, you're not acting like real,

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Speaker 1: like like like real R and B superstars. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like like like what are you, Like,

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Speaker 1: is your bag right.

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you pulling up right? Like like can you hold

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Speaker 1: it down? Like like like the real R and B superstars,

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Speaker 1: Like like like they held it, they could hold it down.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, the rappers just

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Speaker 1: taking over y'all. They're just taking over y'all, y'all, your

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Speaker 1: whole area, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like it's a certain level, it's a certain level of

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Speaker 2: stomp down. Yeah, you got an R and B artist

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Speaker 2: gotta do it, has to have, Yeah, stomp down, That's

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Speaker 2: what I'm gonna roll.

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Speaker 1: With that one.

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Speaker 2: It's a certain level.

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Speaker 1: They gotta be over in Atlanta, we say get down,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get you know, they gotta believe. They gotta

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Speaker 1: believe all of it.

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Speaker 2: Yea that when but when y'all hit the mall, it's

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Speaker 2: going up just as well as when you hit the

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Speaker 2: bedroom is going going up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't be you know, you running one

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty two pounds. Push what I'm telling you?

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Speaker 1: Tell them? I'm like I said, look, first of all,

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Speaker 1: young you got to get in the jimi.

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Speaker 2: Because you can't be skinny and not have a six pack.

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Speaker 2: Skinny at least have a six pack something.

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Speaker 1: But you can't have a six pack and can't throw

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Speaker 1: nothing around.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be able to throw something around. You gotta believe.

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Speaker 1: You throw it around like you got to throw her

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Speaker 1: all around.

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Speaker 2: They don't believe.

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Speaker 1: They don't believe. And he's like, yo, the girls are

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Speaker 1: just talking to us, crazy, talking to.

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Speaker 2: Us because she with a stump down there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't nobody see that?

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Speaker 2: I said, listen, R Kelly started a record like this,

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Speaker 2: shut up again?

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Speaker 1: It did it did?

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Speaker 2: I don't want to ever hear you say that I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm ever leaving you shut up? You shut that up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't. They really don't understand the essence of

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Speaker 1: R and B. That's that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: It starts with understanding the essence of a woman. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it starts there. How many as I'm gonna allude to

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Speaker 2: something that I ain't gonna give it away? What what

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Speaker 2: kind of conversations are you having with women? That's how

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Speaker 2: you build an R and B singer? What do you

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Speaker 2: know about with women?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I get it. You you know a lot about your gens,

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Speaker 2: got it, got it? You know, you know a lot

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Speaker 2: about the or, you know a lot about Louis got it,

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Speaker 2: got it? You know a lot about cars. What do

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Speaker 2: you know about women? That's how you define R and B? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how well you can relate to women? Because women.

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Speaker 1: They need to do an R and B seminar.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, and give and give and give the information,

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Speaker 2: get them back on track and give away Louis bag.

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Speaker 2: I was like, because in essence, what what what the

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Speaker 2: What the rappers have done is they've they've taken the

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Speaker 2: stomp down part of it, but they don't necessarily need

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Speaker 2: the finesse no more because they don't have because they

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Speaker 2: don't have any competition.

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Speaker 1: You ain't got to get you ain't gotta get intellectual.

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no opposing, there's no other choice.

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Speaker 1: Right, got to get creative.

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Speaker 2: They don't have to get creative.

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Speaker 1: And what do we creative? That's what we do.

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Speaker 2: So we got to be about to figure out a

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Speaker 2: way to be come additive, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the man. Let's let's go to

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Speaker 2: the pens inception man. Yes, let's go to the beginning

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Speaker 2: of the pin, when it was, when it was maybe

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Speaker 2: it's never been a pen. So maybe it's always been

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Speaker 2: a pin. Maybe you just were born with a pin.

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Speaker 2: Where does this start? Sean, give me, give me, give me,

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Speaker 2: seven eight year old Sean Garrett. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: All right? You know, the seven eight year old Shawn

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Speaker 1: Garrett is pretty much you know, I got to give all,

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Speaker 1: you know, rest in peace with my mom. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've had I talk about my mom all the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, But the true essence, going back to the

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Speaker 1: true essence of a woman, I mean, the tru essence

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Speaker 1: of Sean Garrett is just my mom.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Wow, honestly, man, my mother's everything was everything to me.

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Speaker 1: She she she instilled me so many different aspects of

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Speaker 1: being a man, being responsible, how to take care of

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Speaker 1: your kids, how to be strong, how to not let

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Speaker 1: someone take you off your block, how to be a provider,

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Speaker 1: how to be a warrior. So, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: I think part of you know, good, bad or indifferent.

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Speaker 1: I think the essence of what Sean Garrett is is

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Speaker 1: is is all my mom. Ridy Elaine, Man, You know,

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Speaker 1: I lost my mother early in my life, but I felt, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I lived two or three lifetimes with her

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Speaker 1: as a child, as a young man, and my dad,

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Speaker 1: you know, shout out to my dad. I love your dad.

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Speaker 1: My dad was very instrumental. But my dad was so

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Speaker 1: good at being a team player. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: my dad always knew that he was second. It probably

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Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but he had no problem playing his part

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Speaker 1: as the co star because everybody in the house knew

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Speaker 1: that mama was it was the superstar. But she was

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Speaker 1: willing to literally die for her kids and purpose. And

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Speaker 1: so I think when you grew up in a household

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Speaker 1: like I did, and being so bilateral, like you know,

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Speaker 1: my life, you know being from Atlanta, Georgia, you know

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Speaker 1: Cambilton role, my mom from Perry Holmes, my dad as

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Speaker 1: from Philly. My dad's military. My mom was in the

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Speaker 1: military before I was born. Then she worked for the government.

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Speaker 1: That transition of what we call real life in America

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Speaker 1: and being able to translate and operate around the world

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Speaker 1: from a global mindset of being an African American, all

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Speaker 1: those different innuendos made the pen right and it gave

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Speaker 1: me so much, so much diversity. Like I'm a very

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Speaker 1: diverse person, but at the same time, I'm very true

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Speaker 1: true to my essence. So I would I would probably

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Speaker 1: say I could definitely be a complicated person. Right, There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of dynamics to what

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Speaker 1: aspect of it because you know, no one knows. You know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask to be born, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I just happened to be born, and I happened to

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Speaker 1: be born with those parents, and I happened to be

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Speaker 1: born with that experience, and I had I had no

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Speaker 1: choice at five years old to decide if I'm going

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Speaker 1: to Germany or not. Right, Yeah, it's like, no, We're

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Speaker 1: going to Germany. And yeah, I did cry, I did complain.

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Speaker 2: I did in those days. It was what it was.

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Speaker 1: It was what it was. You're doing?

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Speaker 2: What How long were y'all in Germany.

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Speaker 1: Until I was twenty years old? Nineteen years old?

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Speaker 2: From five to twenty Yeah, so do you speak German?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Say Deutsch? Zigut no ship yeah, no idea yeah, And so, uh,

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Speaker 1: that experience is the reason why some of the time

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Speaker 1: when I came back to America and started to uh

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Speaker 1: sort of navigate amongst my peers, I seemed a bit intense.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you was German. You know. The crazy part

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Speaker 1: is I was African American living in Germany, right right.

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Speaker 1: My high school school, my high school trip, my high

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Speaker 1: school senior class school trip was in Spain. It's just

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Speaker 1: different for two weeks wild Yeah, you know, so.

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Speaker 2: Twitter, you went to every school in Germany, Yeah, elementary.

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Speaker 1: Middle, and yeah, exactly, And and I really didn't have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to. And so when I would come back

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Speaker 1: to America to see my family, it was like I

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Speaker 1: was always like I got a cousin too. My cousin

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Speaker 1: who married uh is now is now married, y'all know

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Speaker 1: to Lewis, I know, Okay, we'll talk about that in

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Speaker 1: a second. But my cousin too, I just met literally

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Speaker 1: met too, probably about three or four years ago, right,

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Speaker 5: There was a supper power. It's like I can make

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Speaker 1: if you know that contract that I did, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: But you remember how I was.

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Speaker 2: Concept of even how I worked.

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Speaker 1: that's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get so in depth about what happened.

436
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: Then I want to. I want the I want the

437
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: viewers to understand the purpose of my experience. We can

438
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: always get deeper. That'll be in the book that I'm doing,

439
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: but I want to explain more so from the experience

440
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 1: that I had as a youngster and what I learned

441
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: and what my experience, how how how much from my

442
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: experience it taught me to get ready for what the

443
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: pen became right at the time, I used to get

444
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: so frustrated because I felt like I wasn't writing, I

445
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: could not write better songs than I was hearing on

446
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: the radio. And that was and that became something that

447
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: was so important to me. I felt like I wanted

448
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: to write songs that were just as good as the

449
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: songs that I was hearing on the radio. And I

450
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: became completely enthralled in that idea of why does my music,

451
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 1: my songs don't sound as good as these other songs.

452
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't even important, It wasn't really even important to

453
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: me being an artist. Being an artist was important to me,

454
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: but the song was so much more important to me

455
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: because I felt like if I understood how to write

456
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 1: songs as good as the songs on the radio, I

457
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: definitely knew how to perform them right, because I can

458
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: write them, and if I can write them, I can

459
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: performer of course. But what was more important to me

460
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: is I didn't know how I kept getting really upset

461
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: with myself because I felt like it wasn't sounding as

462
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: good as the songs that I was hearing. So by

463
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: the time I was fifteen and sixteen, I got a

464
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: bit frustrated and I was ready to come back to

465
00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: the States because I first covered. Our first single was

466
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: a cover, and I didn't feel like, yeah, that was cool,

467
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: that was cool. They loved my voice. I never liked

468
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: my voice. People used to make fun of my voice.

469
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: It was like, hey, man, you like a football player

470
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: or a boxer, but your voice sounds like you're Ralph Chesident.

471
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: And I used to. I used to, by the way, ultimately,

472
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: so so in my brains, I was like, oh, I'm dope.

473
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm definitely dope, but you know, in a way. But

474
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: I never used to tell people how I felt. It

475
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: really used to f with me. It really used to

476
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: bother me. And you know, this is really funny, and

477
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, we're supposed to be talking about some like

478
00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: the cool side of.

479
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: This is we're talking about Yeah, we're talking about the DNA.

480
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I completely used to. That's why when some

481
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: that's why when some people say, like you know, like

482
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: some people say I'm cocky and shit right, But to

483
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: be very honest, man, I'm a very I'm a competitor.

484
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely a competitor, more so than I'm cocky.

485
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm just very sure of myself because I had to.

486
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: I had to get better and better and better and

487
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: better until I felt confident enough that I knew that

488
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: I could run a three nine when most people was

489
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: running four five. And a lot of times I was

490
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: told so many times that I could not run a three.

491
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't even run a full five. They used to

492
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: always tell me I couldn't run a full five, And

493
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: so it just made me more and more determined to

494
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: be able to show you, not only can I run

495
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: a four five, but I can run a three nine.

496
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: When I got to America, I knew that I was

497
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: definitely different because I went through so many different transitions

498
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: of like beating myself up, not feeling like I was

499
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: good enough, or not feeling like And this wasn't about

500
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: what other people had to say. It was just me personally,

501
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I would be listening to

502
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: other records, and I know I loved music. I know

503
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it with a different type

504
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: of passion. I loved it more than I love baseball.

505
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: And I could throw a fastball and maybe when I

506
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: was sixteen years old, I was throwing a ninety nine

507
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: ninety nine miles power fastball. God, I was knocking home

508
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: runs like I could. I was really good at baseball.

509
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: My mom came to every one of my games. I

510
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: was really fast, I could. I mean, I could do

511
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: a lot of things. But what was more important to

512
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: me is like music, I just love music. I loved

513
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: it in a different type of way. And so I

514
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: also realized that, like, damn, how do you imagine this, right,

515
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: imagine having this gift as something and everybody telling you

516
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: don't look like you sound That was crazy to me, right,

517
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: So I was almost I was always kind of worried

518
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: about that, and then I just never really got it.

519
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Just all never seemed to match up, you know what

520
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was like I was talented, but it's

521
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: just never seemed to match up in my mind. In

522
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: my mind, I didn't look like this person. I wasn't

523
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: slamm I was, I was muscular. I wasn't you know,

524
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: all of the things that everybody said you were supposed

525
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: to look like. I didn't look like you know, I

526
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: felt like I was handsome, but I was like, I

527
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: just didn't look like I sound. I just didn't look

528
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: like my music sound right. But then it then it

529
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: was then mean, when I was like eighteen, it just tatered.

530
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: I took a turn. I took a turn, and I

531
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: just didn't give a fuck no more. It really just

532
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: made me feel like, you know what, I'm me, I'm

533
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: fucking me, and I was excited about being me. I

534
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but say, what was that? What was?

535
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: But think, man, you know, you get to a point

536
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: where people tell you you can't do this and you

537
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: can't do that, and you just fucking you just get

538
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: frustrated to the point where you just like fuck y'all.

539
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, just fuck y'all.

540
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: You know, and people don't know. People don't breaking point,

541
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: well the breaking point, but people don't understand the the

542
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: lasting effects of having to hear that so much and

543
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: then finally getting to that point. So when you when

544
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: you finally say fuck y'all, that's something you stand on

545
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: ship for a long fucking time, and people don't understand

546
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: why there's that and understand what you went.

547
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: Through as a kid man, and you know, imagine being

548
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: a talented child from like five what I'm saying and

549
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: you've been hearing this this shit to you like eighteen.

550
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: By the time I came back to America, I was

551
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: on one. Yeah, I was definitely on one. I was like,

552
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, and if anything felt like it was some

553
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: negative shit, I was just like in my mind, I

554
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: was like, fuck you run over? Yeah, like, yeah, yeah,

555
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: I know, I don't. I know, I don't I know,

556
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I ain't this, I know, ain't that. Yeah. Yeah, but though,

557
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: but I'm miss right. And that's where all my anks

558
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: came from, you know what I'm saying. And I feel

559
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: like that's why I can relate to this generation, because

560
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I really probably was one of the

561
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: I was. I was probably one of the ones that

562
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 1: started this crazy mindset of these artists. I probably would

563
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: say because I never I never felt like I looked

564
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: as good as Usher. I never felt like I looked

565
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: you know. I never wanted to be Chris Brown. I

566
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: never wanted to be sure. I never even wondered I

567
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: was the guy next door. I'm the guy next door.

568
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a guy. I'll take your fucking I'll

569
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: take your girl for sure. I'll definitely fuck your girl.

570
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Not because I want to, I can you know what

571
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because you know what, my conversation is definitely

572
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: deeper than yours. You know what I'm saying. My work

573
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: ethic is definitely better than yours. You know what I'm saying.

574
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: My heart is definitely pure, you know what I'm saying.

575
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: And I'm just talking about girl talk, you know what

576
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm just talking about just like on some

577
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: regular dude shit, like, yeah, I probably I'm the guy

578
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: next door. I ain't got all that other shit, but

579
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: I definitely got heart, I definitely got a work ethic,

580
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: I definitely got passion. I definitely give a fuck about

581
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: everything that represents what we stand for. And I'm gonna

582
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: get money somehow, some way, you know what I'm saying.

583
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't really you know, I don't

584
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: really think.

585
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, so you're back. I can compete, So

586
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: let's compete. So you're back in the States.

587
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I come back to the stations. Yeah, back

588
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Yeah, go back to Atlanta. It's time to

589
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: get to it is and ship is and ship is.

590
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: You know, you get back to the States, a lot

591
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: of cracking, ship cracking, crack, you know what I mean,

592
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's guys, super amazing creatives like Pooh Bear,

593
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, shut Pool Bear. Uh. And I love this

594
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: part of it because a lot of these guys, you know,

595
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: at the time, you know, I don't know if they

596
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: know if I like them or if they like me,

597
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: or they gave a fuck or that I ain't, but

598
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: I just knew I respected them, you know. Johnte Austin

599
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: one of the fucking coders, you know what I'm saying,

600
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: Like I can definitely say that now like Pool Beer

601
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: Pooper is like a genius, straight up. Uh, John T. Austin,

602
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: straight genius. And this is all at the time, you know,

603
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: when me coming me coming to the States, you know

604
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Brian Michael Cox, j D Man. Uh.

605
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: Then then I meet Chris hicks Man and oh man,

606
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: he just said some ship and shout out to Chris

607
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: hicks Man. Chris sicks know how much I love him,

608
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: you know, but oh my god, man, Yo, I've never

609
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: probably felt nobody, there's nobody ever broke me down like

610
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: he did. Like he just said, I remember I played him.

611
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: I played him, Yeah, the demo a year man. He

612
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: just it just fucked me up. It was like that,

613
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: ain't it was because well, because these guys was at

614
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: the top of the game, you know what I'm saying,

615
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: Like they was. But you gotta understand, my relationship with

616
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: Chris is like the biggest, like like like he's one

617
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: of the I will say, he's probably one of the most.

618
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: He's the one executor that pushed me to the highest

619
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: level when and so so this is not a slight

620
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: like Chris Sicks is like, first of all, at the

621
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: time he was co CEO of Noontime, which is one

622
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: of the most legendary, legendary independent labels in the music business. Uh,

623
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: and they spawned so many you.

624
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: Know, all the time.

625
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he was at the time he also

626
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: was president I think of Warning Chapel at the time publishing.

627
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: He was a great publisher too. So you know, man,

628
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm just kid man trying to impress these guys, man,

629
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't have no clue or understanding

630
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: of like what the bar is with with them, you

631
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so I just knew I

632
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: just didn't fit. I just didn't fit, man. I didn't fit.

633
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: I just did not I didn't I didn't. I didn't

634
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: like the kind of ship that they did. Not that

635
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: I didn't like it, mean, I just couldn't do it,

636
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I didn't know how to create.

637
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't the kind of songwriter that could write songs

638
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: with chords and ship. I just I didn't feel like

639
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: I was good enough to do that, And so I

640
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: used to beat myself up internally, and you know, records

641
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: like Yeah and Goodies and check up on it like

642
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: those are songs that or fucking ringy alarm or shit

643
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: like that, Like that's the ship I understood how to

644
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: do because I didn't. I wasn't. I wasn't really attracted

645
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: to like chord progression type of songs.

646
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: Sure, then, for lack of a better term, you are

647
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 2: sued in a different sound. Literally, Like I remember Billy

648
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: Callaway and Shakira Stuart, who are really good friends of mine,

649
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: close close kit friends of mine, telling me about you.

650
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. They were like, he's the one

651
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: flood out like and it's so it's so crazy to

652
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: hear you say it from us from a from a

653
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: point of almost people not believing, people not seeing it,

654
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: and you not knowing that people were celebrating you before

655
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: you had the hits. You have no hits at this point,

656
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: not when I heard about you.

657
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: But it was like nigga, he niggas this, nigga Sean Garrett.

658
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: You know, I shake you, Nigga, Sean Garrett, nigga Sean

659
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: Garrett got it in twenty four, twenty four about they

660
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: was they billy, you're white men, though, Man, no bullshit

661
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: that you did not know about.

662
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: And you know what, that's that's what's really beautiful about

663
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: this because I really didn't know, man, I really bro

664
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: I didn't. I was just trying to survive. I was

665
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: really just trying. I was very passionate, though I think

666
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: I think my passion sometimes made people feel like, I

667
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: don't know what it made people feel like. I was

668
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: just being myself. All I could do is just go

669
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: with my passion, and I just I just didn't know.

670
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: I think that the worst thing. I was just fighting

671
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: for my life, to be very honest, I just wanted

672
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: to be great and I just didn't. I knew I

673
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: didn't fit into this box of like doing things that

674
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: other people do. Anytime I heard anything that someone else

675
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: was doing, I completely wanted to do something different, but

676
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: I also admired the greatness too, Like I really was

677
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: a very maybe I didn't say much to these guys,

678
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: but I really admired them.

679
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

680
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in high school. I felt

681
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: like I was in like ninth grade, and these guys

682
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: were seeing this ship and they was fucking amazing, and

683
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, like I remember, I never forget

684
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: out hearing uh man, I'll never forget hearing superstar m

685
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: hm hmm.

686
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: Man.

687
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: I heard a superstar mhm, and I heard it caught

688
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: up and I was like, what in the fuck am

689
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: I going to?

690
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: Dude?

691
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: Ryan told it was fun. I was like, man, this

692
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker is so incredible. I just I you know, you

693
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

694
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

695
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: It's like you he was like.

696
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. So at the so

697
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: I just was like, man, you know what.

698
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: It makes sense where you're saying, you hear it, you

699
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: appreciate it, but you're just somewhere else you're going to.

700
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't do that else. I don't do that.

701
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: I don't even do that. I don't know how to

702
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: fucking do that. Like I know, even I know how

703
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: to do it of course, right. But we're talking about

704
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, we're talking about being on

705
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: the track, you know, uh Kaie Richardson like like her speed,

706
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you talking about running,

707
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? These people are fucking going

708
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: crazy like they're world class athletes. Yeah, the complete world class.

709
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: And I'm listening, I'm like, bro, oh my god. I

710
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: was just I was just like one am I go.

711
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: Then I get this call from l A Read. So

712
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: I ended up doing my I end up doing publishing

713
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: deal at Hitco. L A Yes. Shout out to Billy

714
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: calloway Man. Billy callaway Man is a fucking amazing I

715
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: don't know why he's not a music business no more.

716
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: I know he do like amazing things with houses and

717
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: ship like that. But he is really great and I

718
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: got us in mind. I gotta get music his his

719
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: props today. He was the one that really signed with

720
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: Shakir and and La Read at Hitko. And I love

721
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: Billy because Billy was very passionate and he was very

722
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: smart and he understood. He understands great. He really did,

723
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: he really does. And he had this bowling league that

724
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: he had this entertainment bowling league that he created, and

725
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 1: I'm talking about every everybody of the who's or who

726
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: would be at that bowling that bowling league every I

727
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: think it was every Wednesday. It was packed like three hundred.

728
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: Anybody that from Atlanta know about three hundred bowling alley

729
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: up four hundred used to be packed. I'm talking about.

730
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: This was a zoo. It was a zoo every Wednesday, man,

731
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: I remember, and I used to just go there, and

732
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: I mean I had like five offers on the table

733
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: from different universals, sony, different people wanted to sign me

734
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: as a songwriter. I never even wanted to write songs

735
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: for other people. I didn't want to do that. I

736
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: wanted to write songs for myself. I was mad that

737
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't write songs. I was like, damn, I haven't

738
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where I can write songs for

739
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: myself to the point that are great songs. I wasn't

740
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: really trying to I definitely wasn't trying to write songs

741
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: for other people. But that's how much of trying to

742
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: push yourself to another level and then to have other

743
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: people to celebrate you or appreciate your talent comes into

744
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: play right, and so it was all god man. But

745
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: I ended up doing my deal with Hitco because Billy

746
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: was just I just he used to make me laugh.

747
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: And I will say to people that, you know, personalities

748
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: matter for executives in the game today. It's important to

749
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: be a good person to people. It was only a

750
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: couple of people that really thought, yeah, it was dope.

751
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: Everybody else was like And it's funny to watch people

752
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: now to say, oh, we knew it was great, we

753
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: knew it was It's like, I remember your face.

754
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: I remember you, remember you.

755
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: I remember I was a kid. You know, kids don't

756
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: forget ship. I was a kid nineteen twenty. I was like,

757
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: I did not.

758
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: So what made you write those verses like that? Yeah,

759
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: because you jumped into comments. Man, you know what I mean.

760
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. We're not gonna brush over this.

761
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 2: We're not write those verses.

762
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if you listen to any of my songs,

763
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: that's my true essence, got it?

764
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: But but what is that from? What is that like?

765
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: Because that's not that's not a normal R and B.

766
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: Well, I don't do R and B. Y'all know that.

767
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: That's what I just said.

768
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: Like, I got it now.

769
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: I do R and B, but I do my version

770
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: of art exactly. So I'm trying to figure out the mixture. Well,

771
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: I think that I'm well, first of all, I'm the

772
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: biggest Michael Jackson fan in life, Like that's a Michael

773
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: Jackson song. My idea was, hey, I heard Superstar, I

774
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: heard caught up. Caught up. Now, this is how crazy

775
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: my mind is. Caught up to me was can you

776
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: feel okay? Okay yea in my brains, I was like,

777
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: I can beat that.

778
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: That's the Jackson's And that's the competition that you've been

779
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: all even chasing this whole time.

780
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: That's the Jackson's. That's not thriller. If I can get

781
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: him Billy Jean beat it and thriller in one song,

782
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: I could kill this hose. And that was my mindset.

783
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna go get one of them little

784
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: John beats. I don't give a fuck what little John

785
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: beat it is. I'm just gonna go create a fucking

786
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson.

787
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: Song on a Little John because Little John was on

788
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: fire and his emotion is healing.

789
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: To the windows, from the windows to the wall. Oh

790
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: my god, you the power in the power, in the studio,

791
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: in the in the in the.

792
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: Club, I went horse one night.

793
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: It was I went horse one, I yelling at to

794
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: the window. I was bowling. I was bowling when we

795
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: were be bowling and I and yeah. Came from the

796
00:49:54,440 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: perspective of what Little John's energy does is not it's

797
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: just unbelievable. It's not normal. Me and Lot John are

798
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: more compatible in our essence than not mm hmmm, because

799
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: Lot John is kind of like an outcast too. Yeah,

800
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

801
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: We've all seen the high school photo. Yeah, yeah, So

802
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: when y'all licked the record, we see y'all. Yeah, So

803
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: when y'all, when y'all.

804
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: Sattle John, I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna keep it

805
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: a buck like John John. John John had all the

806
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: relationships with the DJs, and to be very honest, you know,

807
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: shout out to l A. Reid and the whole all

808
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: the people at arist man. But I'm gonna keep it

809
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: a buck man. This was all god like. For people

810
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: to say that they knew is craziness. Now, Shakire Stewart

811
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: he knew, mm hm, he knew. He was fighting for it.

812
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's one other person at that at that

813
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: label that was fighting for it. But everybody else I

814
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: don't think they understood.

815
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: How could you though? Yeah, yeah, because yeahs like hitting

816
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: the lottery, yees, not normal by any means.

817
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: And it made sense to me because it was, you know,

818
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: the essence of Usher's performance.

819
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you took Usher to a place he had

820
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: never been before. That was somewhere else like nothing, nothing,

821
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: anybody it had, nobody has that in their catalog. For

822
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: the most part, that record was a game changer. So

823
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: this a game changer. And then and then after you

824
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: have the game changer, you write it again. You go

825
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: from yeah, the Goodies. I remember every club I was

826
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: in when Goodies came out. Oh my god. I had

827
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: just met Sierra maybe a couple of weeks before Goodies

828
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: came out. I met her at a the song came on.

829
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: She was in the club, she was with what's the

830
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: What's the I forgot her name. She was dancing with

831
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: Sierra at the time, one of one of our we know,

832
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: one of our homegirls. And she's like, oh, you got

833
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: to meet Sierra, like Sierra said the song that just

834
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 2: came out. Yeah, I'm like, do you know what's happening?

835
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: Right now.

836
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: We actually did that. I did that in the same

837
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: week actually, just because you know what's so funny. Shout

838
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: out Delicia. Delicia at the time was Little John's assistant.

839
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 1: I couldn't get no beats from Little John. I didn't

840
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: know Love John, and Little John's people wouldn't give me

841
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: any beats because they were like, uh so BC twenty four.

842
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: Billy Callaway reached out. I said, Billy, I want to

843
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: do I want to do a I want to do

844
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: a Michael Jackson song over one of them crunk beats

845
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: for Usher. He was like, let's do it. So he's like,

846
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: what do you want me to do? I said, hey, man,

847
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: can you call Little John's people and see if I

848
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: can get it, you know, get some of his beats.

849
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: And they were like, little John don't do R and

850
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: V beach do that like he do crunk beats.

851
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: I was like a no go.

852
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: So man, it took about two three weeks for me

853
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: to and I actually ran into Delicia and she's the

854
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: I owe him everything. Wow, she is the key the glue.

855
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to Shout out to Delicia, Delicia, and she's

856
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: just the sweetest thing.

857
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: So she got you a beat tape man.

858
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: She got me ten beats. She a CD with ten

859
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: tracks on there. And out of those ten tracks, one

860
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: of those songs what Goodies? And one of those songs

861
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: was Yeah. And you can go online right now to

862
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: YouTube and pull up Sean Garretts. Yeah, you can hear

863
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: my original demo too. Yeah, and when you hear that,

864
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: it'll make it all makes sense. Yeah. I actually was

865
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: doing all the little John PARSI. Yeah, And I remember

866
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: getting this deal with John and John was like, I'm

867
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: changing this ship. I don't changing the ship. I said, John,

868
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: why the fuck you want to change it? Because I

869
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: want to do some new libs. I said, this ship

870
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: is already perfect. The weird is he said, how the

871
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: hell are you gonna tell me how to do me

872
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: better than me? But what's so crazy about? Like what

873
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: we have to do? And y'all can relate to this

874
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: we have to do. We have to paint the pictures

875
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: so well that geez, like.

876
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: What's yeah, and right, here's the bush the white man.

877
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so crazy toying you were saying earlier. You know,

878
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: people don't know what we have to go through, like

879
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: that's where the anks come from, you know, And is

880
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: if there's not one thing I want to say on

881
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: here today, Like sometimes you know, people take our passion

882
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: the wrong way, Like it's like, do you know what

883
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: it took to get here to do all these songs?

884
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: Have you looked at my discography they have?

885
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: Like do you really know what I had to go through?

886
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: Physiography is crazy.

887
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: I have to deal with different people every single day,

888
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: not just different creative people, different creative managers, executives, labels, attorneys,

889
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: street niggas, streets like they don't understand. So you get

890
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: to a point where you be turned, like when like

891
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: when Kanye say, I'm turned, I'm turned. It's not I'm tripping.

892
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: It's just so you know, I'm sorry. On versus, y'all

893
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: just caught me on one of my days. You caught

894
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: me on one of my days to where like, first

895
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: of all, I had two root canals, I was on

896
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: pain pills, right, and my brother's asking me to do

897
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: something that I don't even know what the hell is

898
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm holding my phone in my house on

899
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: my time and I see that you know it's on.

900
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: It's all so it's motherfucking own. You're just catching me

901
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: and my ship like like, like, really, but I'm at

902
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: my house, y'all. I didn't get paid to do that.

903
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, No, we set the

904
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 1: ship off check up? No, No, we went viral y'all

905
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: seen it?

906
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I did. I was in the comments.

907
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I was reading the comments too, and I was like,

908
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: oh wow, oh that's interesting. I'm tripping. Sean tripping now.

909
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: Y'all know, Sean, don't act new, don't act brand new.

910
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: You know. I'm a warrior. I was a warrior for you.

911
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: Remember remember when I did that monster for you? When

912
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: I did that monster for you and you and you. No,

913
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: I was just what we're doing well, what we doing right?

914
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: And and it's it's it's so many you know, as

915
00:57:53,680 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: they say what they like to say, what they call it, well,

916
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know what Stay true to yourself, be real,

917
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: Like you're how complicated it it is for us to

918
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: be real, to be ourselves every day and come out

919
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: and fight every day and give your best and be

920
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: one of the best ever. It's very difficult, you know.

921
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: And I think that if there's any show or any

922
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: interview I've ever wanted to do, this is what I

923
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: wanted to do right, because I feel like you guys

924
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: have y'all represent so much more than y'all realize y'all doing.

925
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: I feel like this is what my career was about.

926
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: What you guys are doing. Nobody else is doing this.

927
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: All of y'all all you guys doing podcasts and all

928
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 1: that type shit. It's cool, but this that real shit

929
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: right here, because this is the real essence of what

930
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: we really do. It's easy for somebody who don't do

931
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: this ship to get on and talk about ship that

932
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: you don't do. But when you motherfucking really do this ship,

933
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear nothing you got to say,

934
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: because you ain't never walked in these You ain't never

935
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: walked in these cleats. You don't even understand how to

936
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: You don't even understand how to run. You can't run

937
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: in these cleats. You never accomplish these goals. You never

938
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: accomplish those goals. And I'm not being disrespectful to anyone.

939
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's always easy to speak on ship

940
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: that you don't do looking from the outside, yeah, but

941
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: when you're really doing the burning fire, you got motherfucker

942
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: shooting at you from all angles all like, like what

943
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: are you talking about the motherfucker I'm helping hates me.

944
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: You have convinced, you have convinced the mother. You got

945
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: a motherfucker in the background, talk hate it on me,

946
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: talk but talking to me, telling me, Hey, push them

947
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: as hard as you can. S Yeah, man, get you

948
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: a ceemon. Yeah, come on, man, what.

949
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: You got over there?

950
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: Chief? What's what you got over there? Man?

951
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

952
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: You know, Seaney don't really like cords, but you don't

953
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: give us some corse.

954
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: I love Hey.

955
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: I just couldn't.

956
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: I just wasn't raised up on him, but I definitely

957
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: love him. Yeah. We've done a plenty. We've done plenty

958
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: of hits, plenty of missus Sean Garrett.

959
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 2: About to go to a place. Man, this is gonna

960
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 2: be a tough segment for you. Man, Okay, sure, because

961
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, man, if you've done too many of you

962
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: done too many of them yourself. Man, you know, but

963
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,959
Speaker 2: people want to know what they want to know, Chief,

964
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: what's shown Garrett's top fun your top five, top f Yeah,

965
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: your top fick.

966
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 6: Whatever I would be, he say, no, song, you want

967
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 6: to know, you got to show.

968
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: You quit up you try to I want to hear.

969
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: I wanna know your top.

970
01:01:43,800 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, top, fine, yeah yeah.

971
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: So Sea Garrett, you're top five R and B singers.

972
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 1: Now tonight, you know, tonight, I'm gonna be I'm gonna

973
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: be off the cuff. Y'all can't hold me to this,

974
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: y'all can't holp me. I'm just gonna go on the

975
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: emotions tonight.

976
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 3: Right.

977
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say this in any order. I'm gonna go.

978
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start shooting out ideas of vibes or whatever.

979
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: Five one. I'm gonna say, new edition. It is in love.

980
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: He went to songs first. You know what, Sean Garrett. Song,

981
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: We're starting with song. Here we go.

982
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: R and B songs first. I mean, I'm just going

983
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: off field. So you just went crazy on the.

984
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: But I asked you about the artist. I said, artists, Okay,

985
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: songs first, it don't matter.

986
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean I just felt, man, I just feeling.

987
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: One of my favorite songs of all times. How do

988
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: I feel this way?

989
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?

990
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: Why does she stay?

991
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: Why does she stay home? Why does her so bad?

992
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: So sad?

993
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: Inside?

994
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: R and B to the You know what I mean?

995
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: We went really R and B? So I love you,

996
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: Whitney I will always love you and I mm hmm

997
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: uh Billy Jean Michael who because she's not my lover

998
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: strengths when do cry shave? Bobby Brown is my paraorater

999
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: feeling right now?

1000
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 2: It's just emotional mind, you know what I mean? Doesn't songs? Okay? Okay, okay,

1001
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: Top five R and B artists.

1002
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: Straight go Michael with Michael Jackson, Prince with Beyonce.

1003
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: Russian, Hey it off, cap it off.

1004
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: I wish I had more room, I wish I had

1005
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: more hands.

1006
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, listen, listen if you if you

1007
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: want to name a.

1008
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: Couple more, you can't you I mean, I mean, I mean,

1009
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: if you don't want to go Top five like I mean,

1010
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: just that those are the biggest RN B artists in

1011
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: the world.

1012
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: All right, Here we go.

1013
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:39,959
Speaker 1: I can tell the ship.

1014
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: Here we go. Here we go. We're making R and

1015
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: B voltron Okay, you're gonna make your super R and

1016
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: B artists all right, Where you're going to get vocal from? Yeah,

1017
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: the performing style, the styling, the passion of the artists,

1018
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: and who's gonna write for that artist? Mm hmm, here

1019
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: we go. Who're getting a vocal from one vocal to

1020
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 2: make your super R and B artist Michael Okay, very

1021
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: matter of factly like me. Performance style, who kills the

1022
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: stage ship Michael Michael, Michael Michael okay, Michael Michael styling

1023
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: the drip of the artist.

1024
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, mm hmmm.

1025
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: The heart of the artists, who really mean quick quick

1026
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 2: Michael Michael. Yay, this is who's writing for this artist?

1027
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: Me?

1028
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: I would have I would have thought him.

1029
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: I just I would have want to count count.

1030
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: Time, my.

1031
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: Yod damn?

1032
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: Right's right? You goddamn record? Yes sir, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1033
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: we want to hear it. Hold on, hold on, We're

1034
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: not We're not done. We're not trying here just yet.

1035
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: He done with you?

1036
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: Who someone starting like this?

1037
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: What you got.

1038
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: Is that donkey Koch? No, it's ain't saying no names

1039
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: hey a saying no names, A saying no name here.

1040
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: You're saying no niggas saying us who as weird?

1041
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: What you did? What else? Say?

1042
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: She? I ain't saying no hey hey, let let yeah, yeah,

1043
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: vay very important.

1044
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: Tec. I don't know if I'm the best.

1045
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no, listen, listen, listen. We've

1046
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: been waiting. We've been waiting for shining cart depend to

1047
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: get here. I ain't saying no names, story funny, are

1048
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? And the travels

1049
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: Sean Gerett. I'm talking about from the at L down

1050
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: to Germany back to the at L, around the world

1051
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: global with these records, the ship you've seen, the ship

1052
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: you experienced, funny or fucked up. The only rule to

1053
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: the game is you can't say no. You can tell

1054
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: us one or two. It's up to you. I like that.

1055
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: I would probably say, Man, I think the biggest things,

1056
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: the craziest things for me has been like I've had

1057
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: so many opportunities to like engage in like you know,

1058
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 1: relationship opportunities to get with a girl that's in the business,

1059
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: and I always found my found my way of sliding

1060
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: out of it. I felt like it would be it

1061
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: would I always looked at it like I think some

1062
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: people look at like, hey shit, I'm gonna take this

1063
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: opportunity to go ahead and do what I gotta do. Yeah,

1064
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: I always look at like it could come back and

1065
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: hunt me. So I really didn't smash out as many

1066
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: times as I could have smashed out.

1067
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: So you're saying you were offered high level, high level quality.

1068
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: Tell listen, listen, No, I was he want to tell

1069
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: a story. Though, he want to tell a story about

1070
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: getting about some ship. You got to tell the story

1071
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 2: of it.

1072
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I ain't gonna say no names, but it was definitely.

1073
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 2: How did it happen? Come on? I wasn't.

1074
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: I was in certain sessions where where there would be

1075
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: some really high profile friends that will pop through that

1076
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 1: was open for whatever. I just always found my way

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01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: to slide out of the situation because I always feared

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: that I would suck up my career because u mm hmm,

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01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: y'all wanted more.

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01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 2: I want this actual story you a songwriter, nigga tell

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 2: us one.

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: There was just one scenario here we go of this

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01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: really like I would say, huge superstar. I don't know

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: what I want. I want to say what she do?

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01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: That's fine, But I was completely off my pivot. I

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01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: wasn't like I was aloof to the idea that she

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01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: really was on me. It was this particular part about

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01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: her that seemed a little bit masculine that had nothing

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01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: to do with her. It was just her body type.

1090
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say no names, but she had

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01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: big shoulders, she had some big calves love caves. Nah,

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01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: I just all I can tell you. I mean you,

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01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, what the fuck like, I mean it's real,

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: like she was really like one of them ones like

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01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: I could have. Yeah, if i'd have died in E

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01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: din't like her calves. The fucking calves is bigger than mine,

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01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: like like no fucking way, Like she's the kickball cheap.

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01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, Nah, I don't know. Well, yeah, I

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01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: guess in that. Yeah, but she was she was, but

1100
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: she's she's she's everything, she's everything to everything. I feel

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01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: like if I would have locked on in, I could

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01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: have probably could have been cool. I could have some calves. Bro.

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: The motherfuckers is huge. I was stripping like a nice

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01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: quality calf.

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01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: I don't think he feels like they were quality.

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01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: Calves is a whole. It's a vibe to a calf,

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: and then there's a motherfucking extra calf.

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 2: Like it's just like if.

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01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: The calf bigger than mine, like Rugby cat.

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yo, but.

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: It was her about it. I was like, Yo, the

1112
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: thing was, the thing was thanking, the thing was thinking

1113
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: with the calves. Sucking calves turned me off.

1114
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: Bro, swear to God.

1115
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it could have been a movie

1116
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: like like like on paper, y'all have been like, Sean,

1117
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: you was ripping.

1118
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: M you passed the.

1119
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: Calves ship was thinking, but them sucking Calves threw me

1120
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: all the way to funk off them. Calves is what

1121
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: I've been I've been talking about.

1122
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,959
Speaker 2: About to have niggas staring at cave.

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01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: Broad Nah, Bro, I got big legs, bro, and I'm

1124
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: working with it like I'm cool, but I'm just thinking like, nah,

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01:12:52,040 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna work out. Just met Calves, calves on Calves. Now,

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01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: that was the one time. Yeah, that was the one

1127
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: time I fucked up. I fucked that up though, like

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01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: that fuck the Calves. I should have I should have

1129
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: been like I should have tapped on in.

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: She's somewhere with her legs at right now.

1131
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: No watching this, She's the truth. If I told y'all

1132
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: who it was, you fucked up Calves everywhere? Yeah, no

1133
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: Calves on Calves.

1134
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 2: Brother, brother Sean Garrett. First of all, we want to say, man,

1135
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: we appreciate you, brother, Thank you, bron love you like

1136
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 2: we appreciate you like one hundred percent. You know what

1137
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying from UH as a peer and as a

1138
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: brother like and as fans of what you do. Bro like,

1139
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: we we all of those things, all of it, all

1140
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: of it.

1141
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: Let me let me askhow us something? When do you

1142
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: become a great among your brothers? You know what my

1143
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 1: goal was. My goal was to become a great amongst

1144
01:13:58,800 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: my brothers.

1145
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 2: Well, you did it. You've accomplished it. What are you asking?

1146
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: What else you want to know? You've accomplished it, bro man,

1147
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: You've done it. You have done it. Everything else, like,

1148
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: listen in terms of that, you've done it. Everything else,

1149
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 2: it's just for you.

1150
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: You know what. You know what's great about this moment

1151
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: is I love you guys man, because you guys have

1152
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: a way of being yourselves, giving people a platform, protecting yourselves,

1153
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: protecting all brands, building a brand, but at the same time, man,

1154
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 1: being wonderful people.

1155
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

1156
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't want to bring

1157
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: the coast. I will say this, things are different on

1158
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: the coast. How people see Shi on the East Coast

1159
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: versus how they see Shi on the West Coast is different.

1160
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you all that, I gotta say

1161
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: that it really is different. You guys man, are really special.

1162
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 1: Y'all translate globally in our community. You know what I'm saying.

1163
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: And Tank, you know, Jay, I don't get a time.

1164
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't get I don't get a chance to talk

1165
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 1: to you as much as I can get a chance to.

1166
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: I don't talk to him much as much as I

1167
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: want to. But I just want to tell y'all, man,

1168
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, you guys have done an amazing job of

1169
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: letting the world know that you guys are standing up

1170
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: for something that's important to us. Ship is translating because people,

1171
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: you guys are making people think that you know, and

1172
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: like I said, it's not, it's not. It ain't. It's not.

1173
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: It's not the first day or the second day. It

1174
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: might be the tenth episode that you might see and

1175
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: he'd be like, damn, go back and look back, and

1176
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: why she's you know what I'm saying. That ship, that's

1177
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: ship that's important. It wasn't my first number one that

1178
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: people paid attention to me. It's like the fourteenth mm

1179
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: hmmmmmm fuck is that? Let me google him and it

1180
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: be that song that wasn't the biggest. It be one

1181
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: of them songs like.

1182
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 7: DJ want to play that song, Yeah, that.

1183
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 2: Light on the home front.

1184
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: Beat it, you know what I mean?

1185
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 7: Or Papa coming over to give you that wrong favorite position.

1186
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 7: It is one of my due.

1187
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1188
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: See you already. You gotta stop you you relax, uh man,

1189
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: thank you brother, real bro. I'm expecting my record. We

1190
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: got a fire record.

1191
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 1: No no, tell him, no, no, no, take some plan

1192
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: no like take it's that ship.

1193
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: It's fire and you you you was on a cadence

1194
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 2: on there. I said, man, nigga is cadence? What is

1195
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: this cadence? He said, that's just that's just that's just

1196
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: where it is. Thank you. Gotta be right there, you

1197
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: gotta be I said, fuck, I think.

1198
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: Ruby cut it. I think Ruby cut this off.

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01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: You cut it, I said, I said, I said, I said,

1200
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 2: I got it. Nail. I gotta nail it back to

1201
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 2: let him here. He's like, no, no, no, do all

1202
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: of that and didn't do that. Okay, all right, I

1203
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 2: call you back.

1204
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: I played for people like it's it's.

1205
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: Yes, you gotta you gotta play it tonight.

1206
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: For Jay it's disrespectful.

1207
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: You gotta play it.

1208
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: It's just no, Jake, you haven't heard it, Like what haven't.

1209
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 2: Heard it here? Tonight?

1210
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, the type of ship. No no, no, no no.

1211
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: He let the toes out like outside together. Yeah see

1212
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't wear those unless you are real

1213
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: confident like I do. This type of ship. Percent No,

1214
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 1: he went crazy.

1215
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

1216
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: I really don't know if Jay ready for this one?

1217
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: Ja he ready?

1218
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: You haven't heard? You're lying, bro.

1219
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 2: You haven't played for I ain't played for nobody, show records.

1220
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: I need to hear. I need to hear, ladies and gentleman.

1221
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: I am Tank Valentine. This is the RB Buddy podcast

1222
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 2: Sority on all things R and B. First of all,

1223
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: the new music is coming. He's promised, promise. I've been

1224
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: asking him for a long time. And this is our brother,

1225
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 2: Yes it is. I love you, bro, one of the

1226
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: of this ship, you greatest of all time. Y'all make

1227
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 2: some noise. Shan Garrett R and B Money. R and

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01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 2: B Money is a production of the Black Effect podcast Network.

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01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:44,600
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01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Don't forget

1231
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: to subscribe to and rate our show, and you can

1232
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,280
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01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:58,160
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