Speaker 1: Look mad, oh, I see you? Why and look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding dong love culture
Speaker 1: calling bow Matt, you were saying to me right before
Speaker 1: our guests joined us in the zoom that you were
Speaker 1: as I wipe away tears, you were, well, we'll get
Speaker 1: we'll get to that, but we're gonna get to it.
Speaker 1: Before you said you were overserved last night. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was overserved last night. I went to Drag the
Speaker 1: musical in Hollywood and I was starting starring Alaska and
Speaker 1: Jan and all the all the girls were tearing it up.
Speaker 1: And I also should also say the true gag was
Speaker 1: that Joey McIntyre of New Kids on the Block was
Speaker 1: in it and looking good for sure first of all,
Speaker 1: but sort of the big headline is I was really overserved.
Speaker 1: And so I woke up this morning feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of that malaise, that that hung over sort of spirit.
Speaker 1: But then I was I was truly lifted out of
Speaker 1: my funk by what can only be described as the
Speaker 1: season finale of this of the show that was sorry
Speaker 1: but created by our guests. But we're gonna get to it.
Speaker 1: We'll get to it. I think you might be someone
Speaker 1: who okay, here we go prescribing no, no, no, you
Speaker 1: you are repopularizing the word over served. It's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things to say, and it's I think it's perfect.
Speaker 1: I think I have not heard anyone but use use
Speaker 1: that word. It's very much carcass out. It's very Derek Kevensley.
Speaker 1: And last night I ordered a Belvedere on the rocks
Speaker 1: carcass out, not carcass out. I just did a vokat
Speaker 1: a Belvedere Martini with the lemon, but the carcass was
Speaker 1: in Okay, with the carcass with the carcass carcass was
Speaker 1: at the party. I'm very curious for you to order
Speaker 1: something carcass out, just to see if it work, if
Speaker 1: people even get it. Seems to work every time it's
Speaker 1: captured on camera on that and I don't have the
Speaker 1: carcass out. Thankful you can take the carcass out. I'm
Speaker 1: just what it's so funny. But what I love about
Speaker 1: saying you're overserved is in places blame elsewhere you understand.
Speaker 1: So it's not you that served yourself. I was overserved,
Speaker 1: like it's sort of when you get the vapors, you understand.
Speaker 1: I was overserved. Yeah, it's a little passive voice. But
Speaker 1: that's okay voice for you. You as a writer should
Speaker 1: no better. But here we are, well speaking of writing.
Speaker 1: Have you seen, um, what current events are happening as
Speaker 1: we speak, of course as always and um did you
Speaker 1: see that? It's become a meme. Taylor Swift's role in
Speaker 1: Amsterdam in the film gets hit by a car. Well,
Speaker 1: she doesn't get hit by a car, because she gets
Speaker 1: pushed in front of a car and is run the
Speaker 1: hell over by a car and she screams like this,
Speaker 1: she doesn't bow when Yang scream to it. She goes.
Speaker 1: She's it's like really intensive, crazy bodied bowen Yang scream
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm talking about. Well, it's actually
Speaker 1: a perfect segue into our guest, Oh my god, it is,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Is it? Not? It is? Because can I
Speaker 1: just say first, that was your stars born moment, That
Speaker 1: was your Lady Gaga star, that was my moment, Hallow
Speaker 1: and Abby and a lot over my brands, like, that's
Speaker 1: actually amazing. Your story is so textured and rich. Bow.
Speaker 1: I remember this day like the back of my hand,
Speaker 1: the day that I walked onto set a little show
Speaker 1: called broad City legendary. The first thing I ever booked,
Speaker 1: and I did a scream on my first job. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Lucian Yellow Directed got the teller that I was a
Speaker 1: huge fan of Polly Lou and Real House south of
Speaker 1: South Boston, remember the South Boston God, and it was
Speaker 1: one of the best ways in my life. I took
Speaker 1: myself out to Rice two riches after I wrapped. Had
Speaker 1: to cancel on Joel Kim Booster because we were both
Speaker 1: doing it was it was some show God, the ghost
Speaker 1: of our past. Joel Kim Booster. Wow, what a ghost?
Speaker 1: What ghost? But God? I mean, I knew to like
Speaker 1: bottle that day up and I can just on cap it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you so much, Mama, Thank
Speaker 1: you mama. Okay, So, anyway, you just watched the finale
Speaker 1: of a leak of their own. Oh God, my carcass
Speaker 1: was wet with the cars in, the cars was all around.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, first of all, it's been very baseball
Speaker 1: vibes lately. Can we say, because it's very last night, honey, Yes,
Speaker 1: they did, and we don't tell you sports on last
Speaker 1: we don't talk about sports. Um shout out lemon, will
Speaker 1: shout out Lemon weel we love. Can we say there
Speaker 1: was a sort of Mets game that went for five hours?
Speaker 1: Can tell you the crew at SNL was glued to
Speaker 1: the screen during the cold open. I was about to
Speaker 1: walk out, and I go, guys, guys, I'm about to perform.
Speaker 1: I'm bon yank, I said, guys, you should be hating
Speaker 1: to my every need. But I was supposed to go
Speaker 1: to the Mets game on Monday and we got rain out.
Speaker 1: Oh damn it. And that's one of the worst things
Speaker 1: that can happen at a baseball game is a rain out. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: get it right. It's so demoralizing, so demoralizing, really ruins
Speaker 1: the whole day. It ruins the whole vibe. It actually
Speaker 1: ruler culture at number seven when the baseball game it's
Speaker 1: so demoralizing, ruins the whole day. Well listen, bo, it's
Speaker 1: been very baseball because the playoffs. Congrats to the mess.
Speaker 1: I guess they continue on. Um. You know I used
Speaker 1: to be a hardcore Mets fan. You. Matt Rogers wrote
Speaker 1: an entire sketch about David Wright period period. My first
Speaker 1: stch I ever wrote comedy sketch. It's no funny that
Speaker 1: in this in this episode where sort of Hillary Duff
Speaker 1: going back to the beginning, back to where they are
Speaker 1: the Son that Stars All Alive. Yeah, so this is
Speaker 1: what I love about Bow and Yang always knows the
Speaker 1: Hillary Duff lyric period. I mean, what else? What else
Speaker 1: do you needed a best friend? Anyway? This series a
Speaker 1: League of their Own, which was actually based on the
Speaker 1: classic film of the same name, based on the Dorrick
Speaker 1: Rockford Peaches period period. Maybe you've seen your O G
Speaker 1: film with the iconic petty Lori Petty, thank you for
Speaker 1: because there is Lori Petty eraser And sometimes you don't
Speaker 1: say Lori Petty first, and sometimes you can say Lori
Speaker 1: Petty first. Ask as kid one for the books? Okay,
Speaker 1: And can I say that there was a moment on
Speaker 1: Lost Culture where it wasn't before I watched Leave of
Speaker 1: their Own and after I watched the film, I'm saying
Speaker 1: the movie, oh yeah, well that's like an unacceptable blind spot.
Speaker 1: It was one of the first things I watched in
Speaker 1: the pandemic and I was like, I completely get like.
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like I feel like it's
Speaker 1: the nineties. I feel like I feel like I saw
Speaker 1: this in the theater. I didn't let's get facts facts straight,
Speaker 1: because you would have been sorry, but one year old.
Speaker 1: Just to date, you would not have been let inside
Speaker 1: the the No, you would have been way too young.
Speaker 1: But what what what's so great about the film is
Speaker 1: it lives on Okay, and so basically this series um
Speaker 1: which watch now on Amazon Prime, excellent series. It is
Speaker 1: so good. It also not only does a star and
Speaker 1: was created by our guests, but it also stars I mean,
Speaker 1: this podcast single favorite person, Darcy Cardon, and I have
Speaker 1: to tell you. Yesterday on Twitter, Darcy posted a photo
Speaker 1: of herself and our guest, and I retweeted it with
Speaker 1: little horny devil emojis. Returned to Twitter, there was an explosion.
Speaker 1: People acted like, oh my god, is this happening? Is
Speaker 1: this person a guest? And I was just like wow,
Speaker 1: people are clamoring, and then I realized, yeah, because it's
Speaker 1: a moment of history, moment of his No, I don't believe.
Speaker 1: So I'm so present and it's literally here. My carcass
Speaker 1: is so alert, carcass gone, carcass present, living body is in.
Speaker 1: Can we just say this is a major You know,
Speaker 1: our guests obviously from the series, only get their own
Speaker 1: If you haven't watched yet, you absolutely must, and of
Speaker 1: course iconic broad City, amongst other things. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is just it's a it's a moment, bo it's a moment,
Speaker 1: and we're so excited she's here. So crack your knuckles. Everyone,
Speaker 1: please welcome Jacobs. Wow. Oh my god, that's that was
Speaker 1: so hard not to like giggle in. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: that and love the intro of the whole carcass out.
Speaker 1: We're happy your car is happier because because also not
Speaker 1: for nothing, but while we were speaking, I found myself
Speaker 1: smiling and sort of having in a fabulous time because
Speaker 1: I saw you smiling and fact, what's called a stars smile.
Speaker 1: You were literally a fucking superstar in this show. You're
Speaker 1: so good in this Abbey Wow. Thank you truly means
Speaker 1: so much from you, guys. I have been very nervous
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons about this show. So, I mean, and
Speaker 1: your thing, Yeah, the most potentially one of the most
Speaker 1: biggest films. Yeah, so I'm like, we'll see what happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what did this is what I wanted to ask. What
Speaker 1: did it feel like when you got to set and
Speaker 1: saw you guys all on the outfits that had to
Speaker 1: be Psycho. Oh it was. It was wild, and we
Speaker 1: built a stadium. We built a stadium because it has
Speaker 1: to Yeah, because it has to be you know, nine stadium.
Speaker 1: I mean, we did the pilot in Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: even then we're not in the Peaches uniforms where we're
Speaker 1: all in like try out gear like the pilot uniforms,
Speaker 1: and you're it's so bizarre. I mean I always felt
Speaker 1: that way on broad City to like even just like
Speaker 1: being I'm like, what are we doing like this set?
Speaker 1: But that is just bizarrere in like old timing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because this this is a different process. I mean, first
Speaker 1: of all, the process from going I have an idea,
Speaker 1: yuh of where this scene should take place or what
Speaker 1: what this plot line should be, and then like the
Speaker 1: moment from that when you walk onto a set is
Speaker 1: like so bewildering to anybody, especially like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like and I feel like it's this is a different
Speaker 1: layer that I have, Like I feel like doing period
Speaker 1: is this whole other layer on top that I like
Speaker 1: don't have any insight on. What was that? What was that?
Speaker 1: What was what? What What surprised you the most? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very very different, Like I mean on Broad City. It's
Speaker 1: you guys could imagine it's like we're gonna you're in
Speaker 1: New York and it's like us amplified and we're wearing
Speaker 1: like different clothes. But like you know, it's very like
Speaker 1: easy to imagine, like we're in New York exactly do
Speaker 1: we want to be? And this was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: so Will Graham asked me to do this with him
Speaker 1: and we'd started we were yeah, and we've been working
Speaker 1: on it since. So it was like a very long
Speaker 1: time imagining what it would be. And then you also
Speaker 1: there is no I'm so used to being like location
Speaker 1: driven and then where that and like this is just
Speaker 1: like we will make it up, like someone will build it.
Speaker 1: That's so not my Yeah, it's a whole new ball game,
Speaker 1: period and that's where the baseball it really is in
Speaker 1: the air about and that's where it is. Were you
Speaker 1: a baseball fan or were you like did you have
Speaker 1: to become one? Like because it's very baseball league. They're
Speaker 1: own very much, so if you don't know the game,
Speaker 1: it would be tough. Yeah, I mean I know the game.
Speaker 1: I played softball as a kid. I'm not like a
Speaker 1: huge fan, like truly, you guys talking about the Mets.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, no, no, I know that's the big
Speaker 1: game last night. Yeah I'm not. Yeah. And I used
Speaker 1: to go to a lot of Phillies games as a kid.
Speaker 1: I'm from Philly, and I mean I've been to a
Speaker 1: lot of games. I knew it. And I love the
Speaker 1: movie and I think I played a lot of sports
Speaker 1: as a kid. So I like the team aspect and
Speaker 1: like this world that we're in is very much team
Speaker 1: driven like film and TV. It felt very meta, like
Speaker 1: I can I can take my experience of like team
Speaker 1: and be like on this team. You know. Um, but
Speaker 1: I did learn a lot about baseball. You look very
Speaker 1: natural playing like you have everyone you have. The swing
Speaker 1: is you know what's funny, Like my dad, my dad
Speaker 1: is a baseball coach and he was for years and years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so my dad was a varsity baseball coach and so
Speaker 1: I played for years. And there's these little things I remember,
Speaker 1: like foundationally about like stances and like how to hold
Speaker 1: your arms and like swinging. And I was watching and
Speaker 1: I was like, everyone really did get this right. Like
Speaker 1: it's a very lived in, like authentic baseball playing. That's
Speaker 1: great to hear because that was sort of like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're casting Darcy is actually really good. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people that I was
Speaker 1: friends with that we cast, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: I didn't know, but you sort of had to the
Speaker 1: acting trump. I don't even like using that as like
Speaker 1: a acting over. Chat had. It was more important than
Speaker 1: the baseball actual skills. So some some are better than others.
Speaker 1: And we did we did a lot of training with
Speaker 1: real players so that whatever position people were playing, they
Speaker 1: like had the they had the stances, and they could
Speaker 1: could feasibly look like they were doing it. And then
Speaker 1: there were devils and there were visual effects, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but it all looked like I was like, oh, caper
Speaker 1: Land can like really like great. How Kate is like
Speaker 1: the growth of that character is like so necessary. She's
Speaker 1: like the steaks for my character, the like sort of
Speaker 1: immediate steaks, there worldly steakes. But I just love Shirley.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's amazing, what a great character. And so
Speaker 1: that's another I miss named her Shelby. I'm so sorry, listen,
Speaker 1: I actually I thought you were talking about just Shelby.
Speaker 1: I'm calling myself in Okay, sorry, carcass In but wait,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, sure for for Sureley and Carson to
Speaker 1: have this inner personal um, to have the stakes be
Speaker 1: interpersonal like that rather than because the global stakes of
Speaker 1: it are like very very apparent and obvious to anybody
Speaker 1: watching and who understands like what queerness is, you know,
Speaker 1: like what it was back then, and like it just
Speaker 1: it just made it so so so clear and so
Speaker 1: easy to track and very emotionally, I don't know, just
Speaker 1: like very very powerful and like and just yeah, not
Speaker 1: to spoil too much, but there's a there's a moment
Speaker 1: at the end in the finale where it all sort
Speaker 1: of comes to a head in a way that's so
Speaker 1: like it's son and true and like and just relieving
Speaker 1: in a way that I'm like, yeah, yeah, everyone's fight
Speaker 1: for that scene. Really, it's so funny where I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is important, she needs to be I'm not want
Speaker 1: to reveal it because it's like she's doing like such
Speaker 1: a dumb thing or like such a basic thing. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no no, no, this is like her growth,
Speaker 1: Like this is so dumb, but it's so personal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: People who have not watched it are like, what the
Speaker 1: you're talking about? Basically what we're saying everyone is a character,
Speaker 1: is set up and guess what it pays off. You're
Speaker 1: gonna and you're gonna love the way you look. I
Speaker 1: guarantee it. But what I really like wanted to compliment,
Speaker 1: like you on and this whole show on was that
Speaker 1: sense of danger. So basically, you know, for everyone that
Speaker 1: is aware of the original film from it's really um
Speaker 1: it's it's a beautiful film, but it sort of doesn't
Speaker 1: really get into the reality of like the fact that
Speaker 1: many of these women were likely queer, and like we're
Speaker 1: dealing with the sort of moral question of how far
Speaker 1: do I step into what I want to do and
Speaker 1: what my talents are, what my gifts are, what my
Speaker 1: instincts are, what my humanity is, and how much do
Speaker 1: I literally play by the rules of the world that
Speaker 1: I'm in, which is, you know, I'm married, women are
Speaker 1: expected to do certain things. And basically what I loved
Speaker 1: about this show is that when these women do start
Speaker 1: to act on their queerness or start to respond to
Speaker 1: the call in their body to like, you know, follow
Speaker 1: these urges and these instincts, the sense of danger that
Speaker 1: that surrounds them was so deeply felt, and I just
Speaker 1: had to have to complement the direction, because every every
Speaker 1: toss of a glance over your shoulder, like every closed door,
Speaker 1: every whisper, it just it was so present throughout what
Speaker 1: a difficult experience being queer was at this time, and
Speaker 1: being a woman at this time, being a person or
Speaker 1: a black woman at this time. You know, it's incredibly um,
Speaker 1: it's it's just so present in the entire series, and
Speaker 1: you never lose sight of the fact that these women
Speaker 1: are risking so much just by being who they are.
Speaker 1: Every second. Well, I'm so happy you saw you felt that,
Speaker 1: and and we were really trying to make sure that
Speaker 1: was felt because it's also like that's still the case
Speaker 1: in so many parts of the world, Like we're living
Speaker 1: in a I often feel like my ability to be
Speaker 1: openly queer is like I take it for granted, and
Speaker 1: I in doing this show, I was so like, right right, right,
Speaker 1: right right, constantly like, um, we're very lucky to be
Speaker 1: alive right now, I think, and um, but also we're
Speaker 1: really trying to show that danger in the stakes and
Speaker 1: what the world was like and what was not allowed,
Speaker 1: while also showing the joy because like being queer, when
Speaker 1: ever you have been alive was also so joyous and
Speaker 1: we all we found each other, you know, and so
Speaker 1: it was like trying to juggle both those things. There's
Speaker 1: a line I think that like it blew my mind.
Speaker 1: It's Bertie. Basically, there's a character named Bertie and they're
Speaker 1: talking to their sister and basically are saying, Um, the
Speaker 1: sister is saying, I just wanted to keep my daughter safe,
Speaker 1: and then Bertie says safe isn't safe for some of
Speaker 1: us and not just like it's that's it's it's all
Speaker 1: right there in that line, I think, and like that's
Speaker 1: like woven into the entire show, and um, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just so wonderful and you guys, yeah, like Matt
Speaker 1: s had captured it so well. Thanks guys. No, we
Speaker 1: have no idea television right now. Television isn't it really is?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm also, yeah, I've never this is
Speaker 1: like it's Amazon. It's like decided by men in the sky.
Speaker 1: I don't always even I'm like, they'll let us know.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, all the people we directly work
Speaker 1: with are like we love it, we didn't want it,
Speaker 1: and they're like we're waiting for like the message to
Speaker 1: be like sent down from like Seattle, I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1: These people exist, Yeah, yeah, it's it's like it's tricky. Also,
Speaker 1: so you've known Darcy for a while obviously, did you
Speaker 1: know Darcy prior to Broad City? Like did you did
Speaker 1: you guys cross past a bunch at UCB or just
Speaker 1: in the scene we met in a commercial acting class.
Speaker 1: Um well, I mean Darcy says this, had said this,
Speaker 1: like during our pressure on so much that it kept
Speaker 1: cracking up where she was like I knew Abby, and
Speaker 1: I thought no one will ever see like no one,
Speaker 1: like she says it better than that, but like I
Speaker 1: was so shy and not confident as a performer and
Speaker 1: couldn't really we find my way at UCB, which is
Speaker 1: why neither could Alana, which why we created broad City
Speaker 1: because we were like, I guess we can't perform, like
Speaker 1: we can't, and like we were auditioning for commercials and
Speaker 1: it was just like not we weren't, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and we created this thing over here. But Darcy and
Speaker 1: I were in this acting class, you know, one where
Speaker 1: you were like read you'd like read the copy and
Speaker 1: everyone was like watch you read the copy of the
Speaker 1: and then like dissect you and like and then you
Speaker 1: had to write one one we can come in And
Speaker 1: I did that this really weird thing and no one
Speaker 1: got it. Darcy was like she's brilliant. Wow, she's brilliant
Speaker 1: and no one will ever see her. Yes, I have
Speaker 1: an honest question though. Okay, so like meeting Darcy aside,
Speaker 1: do you do you feel like that was worthwhile at all?
Speaker 1: That that? Yes? That that like like because it sounds
Speaker 1: mortifying and I go, I don't know, like would you
Speaker 1: would you go back and do it like like if
Speaker 1: you had to do it all over again? I guess me.
Speaker 1: I guess I would because it's all these classes and
Speaker 1: all this like effort that I was putting into like
Speaker 1: try and do what I thought, like the performers that
Speaker 1: you see be we're all like the way in which
Speaker 1: you like were successful. It like built up to me
Speaker 1: being like fuck this, like I'm gonna go over here
Speaker 1: and do do this with Alana because so I guess
Speaker 1: I needed to do all those things. I don't think
Speaker 1: it helped me get a commercial see me on commercials? No,
Speaker 1: you know what they always said in commercial like commercial
Speaker 1: acting or whatever is like it has to be so
Speaker 1: small and thrown away. Like I remember, like you literally
Speaker 1: go into if anyone ever listening every audition for a
Speaker 1: commercial like this or did it? This is what it is.
Speaker 1: You go in, you say one line with with no energy,
Speaker 1: and they're like perfect or terrible, and then you leave
Speaker 1: and you don't know what it was that you did
Speaker 1: didn't do. It's so stid. It's the worst. They line
Speaker 1: you up, they line you up. I did my life.
Speaker 1: It's the worst. And I'm always just like I'm not
Speaker 1: wearing the right things so much about the look or yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it really feeds. It's like I was.
Speaker 1: It's almost like a version of cutting is auditioning for me.
Speaker 1: You're like, well, this is just me like getting affirmation
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be doing this. But wait, okay, And I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how long it's been since
Speaker 1: you've heard this sentiment though, And I feel like you
Speaker 1: guys got it so much like during during the show,
Speaker 1: during the TV show Brought City, But it really was
Speaker 1: this like paradigm shifting thing of you and of you
Speaker 1: and a Lana like working venturing outside of like the
Speaker 1: parameters of UCB. Because I think like it was this
Speaker 1: you know, I'm grateful for you CB. I'm grateful for
Speaker 1: the time I spent there in the classes I took um.
Speaker 1: I I can never hack it into the house teams
Speaker 1: there myself, but but I felt like I felt a
Speaker 1: little bit braver going out and doing my own thing
Speaker 1: because of you guys. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That's like it like it really it really opened up.
Speaker 1: So it liberated this thing and like took a hammer
Speaker 1: to the like not the system, but just like the
Speaker 1: concept that like you needed this one place in order
Speaker 1: to like elevate success into some some other level. And
Speaker 1: like I never like once Broad City was fully out
Speaker 1: of his like and then you know, I was just like, oh, like, well,
Speaker 1: like I can do my own version of this. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna look exactly like that. I'm not like, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'll have my own Comedy Central show that
Speaker 1: I like start or EP or right for, but like
Speaker 1: I can try to like weave through and dance around
Speaker 1: all these other things. I love that. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's like the that makes me feel so good and
Speaker 1: I'm so I mean, I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 1: That's part I feel it really I love that because
Speaker 1: it really was for us, Like we were never trying
Speaker 1: to do that, and I us even getting this show,
Speaker 1: I think we thought, we'll do the web series and
Speaker 1: we'll like maybe get hired as writers again. Like the
Speaker 1: confidence was never there that like real real star, because
Speaker 1: like I can't even do a rece's PCs commercial successfully
Speaker 1: in a class you're trying to work at the rec's
Speaker 1: PCs commercials, Like what is that everything anyway? Like I
Speaker 1: can't even Yeah, So that was never it was really
Speaker 1: just about you know, what it gave, If anything, what
Speaker 1: I'm hearing, which I hope is like it unleashed, Like wait,
Speaker 1: maybe my voice is actually different and funny enough to
Speaker 1: like make a thing that doesn't fit in here. And
Speaker 1: that's like what we were like, whoa, let's just let's
Speaker 1: just like run with what feels right, Like you're just
Speaker 1: going with your gut when you're making your own thing,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, like over here, I felt like
Speaker 1: we're trying to conform. Yes, every single thing you do
Speaker 1: adds up to like the totality of who you are
Speaker 1: and like gets you going. That's why I asked about
Speaker 1: like the worth, the worthiness, the worthwhileness of the commercial
Speaker 1: audition class because it's like you is worth it because
Speaker 1: you met. I mean, let's just there's nobody to separate
Speaker 1: the Darcy thing from it either exactly where I'm like
Speaker 1: that and Darcy has been one of my best friends
Speaker 1: for that was like fifteen years ago and Darcy was
Speaker 1: on bread City and like, Darcy is just like so
Speaker 1: in my life listen, I didn't I didn't ever really
Speaker 1: be like I think I would write a thing where
Speaker 1: I'm like falling in love with Darcy, but also everyone
Speaker 1: is in like isn't she that everyone that Darcy mean,
Speaker 1: you love her, you commediately fall in love. So when
Speaker 1: we were writing that, I was like, that's that hert
Speaker 1: that's the Greta, Like she's got something about her that, Yes,
Speaker 1: she is an avalanche of charm. It is so correct,
Speaker 1: I know. But yeah, I guess Darcy alone take the
Speaker 1: class period. She should be the course. She should have
Speaker 1: said the teacher's carcass is gonna be out carcass out?
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of carcass out? No, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: trying to it together. Yeah, this is this is like insane.
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this from a like reality? I almost
Speaker 1: am like it from a Housewives where they're like, I
Speaker 1: want the roast chicken carcass out, Okay, very close, it's
Speaker 1: very close. Okay, it's like a meal where they're like,
Speaker 1: please remove the any remnants of like that. It's like
Speaker 1: an animal or not a meal, a cocktail and you
Speaker 1: guess the car that you were moving the carcass is
Speaker 1: the yes, yes, yeah, there is a carcass out. Yea, exactly. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's wild though, right yeah, it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: wild thing for someone to order that kind of completely
Speaker 1: insane just going to an established and saying carcass The
Speaker 1: word carcass is only describing road kill to me, Like
Speaker 1: I like, it's so awful and like it's like this altogether,
Speaker 1: like pretty chic woman named Dorrit who is the one
Speaker 1: doing it, and she has like this weird, fake little
Speaker 1: British accent she speaks in so the show is obsessed
Speaker 1: with her ordering drinks because she goes, I'll have a
Speaker 1: kettle soda and squeeze a line and carcass out, thinking,
Speaker 1: of course, carcass out. I'm so good. It's really and
Speaker 1: so I'm just saying, like we should all go out
Speaker 1: and start ordering this so that we can start watch
Speaker 1: servers be like, excuse me. Also, I was I was
Speaker 1: like thinking about I was like, are you saying I
Speaker 1: think you're saying overserved, like I've been overserved alcoholic later
Speaker 1: that like like in terms of alcohol. But then I
Speaker 1: was like, maybe he's talking about like I was overserved,
Speaker 1: like attitude by someone. I love that MoMA, she over
Speaker 1: served me last night. Let me tell you, yes, of course,
Speaker 1: I mean that could I'm going to start doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I go out, I'm ordering drinks the carcass out
Speaker 1: and talking about how they a rude person over served me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: served by that made or date. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: right now, it's a very versatile word. I was so verse,
Speaker 1: bo so verse should we ask that question? Because you know,
Speaker 1: I bet a lot of people, a ton of people
Speaker 1: would even say their culture that made them say culture
Speaker 1: was for them, was a league of their own, like
Speaker 1: it is so that that iconic of a thing, and
Speaker 1: so like I was thinking about you were saying earlier
Speaker 1: about being nervous for it to come out because it
Speaker 1: is so beloved, you know what I mean, Like, no
Speaker 1: one's going to be like, well, I'm gonna watch this
Speaker 1: with no opinion, Like people people were like, let me
Speaker 1: see how you ruined my favorite playing. You know, but
Speaker 1: it's I think when you watch it, you're like, it's
Speaker 1: very different. Yes, just such an intentional different thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is. And all that aside. So we asked
Speaker 1: every guest that comes on the show this question, and
Speaker 1: Abby Jacobson, we are asking you, now, what was the
Speaker 1: culture that made you say culture was for you? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say um, and this is like I'm gonna say Bowen.
Speaker 1: It was SNL. Wow whatever. So I used to watch
Speaker 1: I mean I was very on like I was like
Speaker 1: doing the characters of like um, like the cheerleaders and
Speaker 1: that was like my middle school. But I was like Gil.
Speaker 1: I'm like guilda Guild Like. I would watch reruns with
Speaker 1: my parents and like old like when they would replay
Speaker 1: I was very like Cast of seventy six. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like O G and like Guild A Live. I
Speaker 1: was like very like GUIL, Like I don't know. SNL
Speaker 1: was my parents favorite show. They would like get high
Speaker 1: and donuts when they were like young and like like
Speaker 1: falling in love is what they told me. And then
Speaker 1: it was like such a big deal to us, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was very much so seventies six was that
Speaker 1: was that like the New Orleans No, I know, but
Speaker 1: like to think it's like the first year, right, and
Speaker 1: and then I think that New Orleans was like the
Speaker 1: second season or something. I like whatever, Like there's one
Speaker 1: episode they went to maybe I'm not no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I know, isn't isn't. The only time ESNL hasn't been
Speaker 1: in New York was for this New Orleans episode And
Speaker 1: it was the second scenes that after like after like
Speaker 1: the original like not ready for part time players, like
Speaker 1: blew the funk up and like they were mobbed in
Speaker 1: the streets of New Orleans. And then Lauren was like,
Speaker 1: We're never doing this again and anyway, but Guild Alive, okay,
Speaker 1: so have I think I might have talked about this
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I fall asleep almost every single night
Speaker 1: to touch me with my clothes on? What is that?
Speaker 1: Honey touched me on the clothes out. It's the song
Speaker 1: that Guild the Things and Guild Alive. It's like the
Speaker 1: sweetest love song and it's a little dirty. It's by
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a cover. I think it's a cover.
Speaker 1: I might be a cover. I think where I'm confusing
Speaker 1: it with sing like animals, the animals, Let's talk to
Speaker 1: your to the animals. She does that at the top
Speaker 1: of the show Guild Alive is just touched me with
Speaker 1: the clothes. It is honey um, just the sweetest and
Speaker 1: she like opens the song and Guild Alive by being
Speaker 1: like whatever, I'm not like, I don't mean to like
Speaker 1: school anybody on like Guilda, but it's like it is
Speaker 1: so It's crazy how timeless that is, Like how there
Speaker 1: will always be a place in people's hearts for that,
Speaker 1: no matter what age they are or like you know,
Speaker 1: like what their sensibility is. Like guild Is Builda had
Speaker 1: that thing of just like you're gonna love her. You're
Speaker 1: like you can't. You can't put up your you can't
Speaker 1: put up too much of a of a fight against
Speaker 1: like the guilded charm of it all. Yeah, because it
Speaker 1: was so and I mean, maybe that's cliche of me
Speaker 1: to say is like my pop culture thing, because it does.
Speaker 1: It was just like SNL as a whole, and then
Speaker 1: Guild Us sort of like later when I I mean
Speaker 1: I we had to like build we had to paint
Speaker 1: for this class like like our heroes and they were
Speaker 1: going to be in the library and it was like
Speaker 1: people like no one knew that was my age. I
Speaker 1: was like teen, No one knew who Guilda was. My
Speaker 1: dad like helped me make a life size would cut
Speaker 1: out of Rosanna Rosanna Danna and she was in the
Speaker 1: library like next to like JFK or like everyone else
Speaker 1: person where I know, I know, but yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know SNL as a whole and like I was, I
Speaker 1: would do UM. I performed coffee talk a lot. I
Speaker 1: was like I had a whole. I think that the
Speaker 1: tape still exists of me doing Linda Richmond. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was really when you wanted to jump into It was
Speaker 1: very If you ask anyone I grew up with, they
Speaker 1: would probably identify my cultural. Yes, I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: it's so like Saturday Night Live like it. It really
Speaker 1: does have this it's mono culture. I mean everyone knows
Speaker 1: it and exists with it, and I think, like that's
Speaker 1: part of what I don't know, Like it's it's interesting
Speaker 1: that truly every single person like has like a formative
Speaker 1: thing with it. And it's just it's funny because obviously
Speaker 1: Bowen being on the show, now I've gotten to obviously go.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we've all been, and it's like it's so
Speaker 1: fascinating because it's so much of that building that you
Speaker 1: think they would never ever do this again, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, No show is ever going to come
Speaker 1: around and get that much budget, time, attention, the mythology
Speaker 1: of it, like it really is like it's his story,
Speaker 1: not only because of its cultural impact, but also because
Speaker 1: of just the magnitude of the operation. It is just
Speaker 1: it is never to be duplicated. And that's something I
Speaker 1: think that's really sunken in recent years is you know,
Speaker 1: especially like working in the industry and understanding how hard
Speaker 1: it is to make even like a small scale thing.
Speaker 1: This is such a huge footprint that it will never
Speaker 1: ever happen again. And that's that's sort of interesting. It's
Speaker 1: one of those last vestiges of monoculture in that way
Speaker 1: where it's like getting all of that push effort the
Speaker 1: eyes because you couldn't afford to do it again. I mean,
Speaker 1: wasn't there something I hear you're talking about like you
Speaker 1: would you would like act out spartans and you would
Speaker 1: like do coffee talk did the same thing, And I
Speaker 1: was I want to say, does this make sense that
Speaker 1: like it gave you away as a kid to like
Speaker 1: latch onto something commedically and have it be like, have
Speaker 1: be validated by the fact that maybe maybe that it's
Speaker 1: validated by the fact that it's on SNL and that
Speaker 1: that that it's also um cool and fun and silly
Speaker 1: rather than quoting back like a stand up like comedians joke. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is how comedy was shared when we were When
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, right, it was like either
Speaker 1: it was an SNL sketch that like people would talk
Speaker 1: about the next day, or like you put on like
Speaker 1: the best of Will Ferrell like a sleepover literally, or
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, it was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, we gotta listen to this Dane Cook album,
Speaker 1: this Dane Cook guy, which I'm saying like those are
Speaker 1: like both like very common valid ways to share comedy too,
Speaker 1: like in terms of like a younger generation not in
Speaker 1: our generation at least, and I feel like SNL at
Speaker 1: least gave you like a way in besides like a
Speaker 1: comedy film two I don't know, like try it on
Speaker 1: for size, see if you because I was obsessed with
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler's comedy album I'm a little older. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know that when that camp, which was like so
Speaker 1: bizarre that I'm like, I haven't listened to that in
Speaker 1: a long time. Not sure where that. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: would never like do it. I wouldn't like like perform
Speaker 1: his but SNL gave me and I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: think I realized that this until right now, I was
Speaker 1: like able to identify like the game of the character
Speaker 1: and like do it like because when I would do
Speaker 1: Coffee Talk, I wasn't like doing that sketch. I was
Speaker 1: like doing my own sketch. Like I basically like wrote
Speaker 1: a new Coffee Talk. And with SNL, with the characters,
Speaker 1: you felt like you were like I understand this, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like I don't know. I'm like I'm doing it too.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yes, yes it's funny. But I did
Speaker 1: the same thing. Like there was there was elements of
Speaker 1: it that were ripped, like in terms of dialogue, like
Speaker 1: I was doing the jokes. But then there was like
Speaker 1: we were on a family vacation, I remember, and it
Speaker 1: was like me and all my cousins and I was
Speaker 1: like okay, and like but just give them something to do.
Speaker 1: I would make up a character for them to come
Speaker 1: play a walk on and the sketch starring me as
Speaker 1: Linda Richmond. So it was a ripped character, but like
Speaker 1: we had like things happening, Like I remember, like remember
Speaker 1: like there was the like grandmother in that sketch. I
Speaker 1: think was it was it Ron it was playing it
Speaker 1: never my sister was Madonna comes in but no, no
Speaker 1: Rosanna Madonna and making me hungry girls that yeah, but iconic.
Speaker 1: But I remember my sister wanted a bigger part, so
Speaker 1: I wrote more lines for the grandmother and she was saying,
Speaker 1: she was saying, she's from Scottsdale. We didn't understand that way.
Speaker 1: We didn't understand that thing, but like you do it
Speaker 1: because and I also think what you said about your
Speaker 1: parents loving it says it is a big thing because
Speaker 1: it's a way to sort of bea in with you
Speaker 1: think your parents are so cool when you're when you're younger,
Speaker 1: or like you know what I mean, are like older
Speaker 1: people in your life that love this that it's like
Speaker 1: an aspirational cool thing to know, like you're all in
Speaker 1: on the inside joke, even if you don't really get it,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And I do think like you even
Speaker 1: from a young age. You guys probably experienced it to you,
Speaker 1: Like laughter is you can tell if something if laughing
Speaker 1: is like the levels of laughter. You can tell if
Speaker 1: there's like a fake laugh or if there's a real laugh.
Speaker 1: So if your parents are really laughing with you, it's
Speaker 1: a different thing. Yeah, intoxicating. Yeah, it's like you just
Speaker 1: you chase that for the rest of your life almost, yeah,
Speaker 1: depending on like, yeah, how it how it hits the
Speaker 1: or like at what age and oh wow, Abby, that's great.
Speaker 1: It's so you're not part of a legacy. You really are.
Speaker 1: Do you ever just in your and look at yourself
Speaker 1: in the mirror and say, I'm part of a legacy.
Speaker 1: Look at least you look at your own. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: always say that. I also love that your character on
Speaker 1: Fire Island was obsessed. Okay, so let's just clear something
Speaker 1: so funny. We're not obsessed, but like it just was
Speaker 1: like kept it was such like a specific, relatable like thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like made him real. And then I also just
Speaker 1: like love that. I'm like, what went on? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it was like a psycho Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well okay, here's here's what I'll say. Because people are
Speaker 1: like Oh my god, that's such a weird, fucking like
Speaker 1: masturbratory thing, like you're you're positive that. Like I was
Speaker 1: the one who was like, maybe he should like us
Speaker 1: and know, but it was this thing that was in
Speaker 1: the draft of It was in the earliest draft of
Speaker 1: the script before I was even on, before I even
Speaker 1: worked there, and um, it just made it all the people.
Speaker 1: And I remember being on set also, I think on
Speaker 1: the day we shot that scene and I was like,
Speaker 1: is it is it too indulgent if like he says this,
Speaker 1: and I know I I stand by Joel stands by it,
Speaker 1: and it's it's Joel's writing. And Joel was like, no,
Speaker 1: we're keeping it in like because he says, this is
Speaker 1: how people talk to each other, Like this is how
Speaker 1: like more people at least, like you know, talk to
Speaker 1: each other about things. Like we're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like this thing that we quote all the time, is
Speaker 1: this stupid, incredibly semi obscure thing and whatever, like and
Speaker 1: also like it's a little shout out to James Anderson.
Speaker 1: James he wrote all that. So basically like the gays
Speaker 1: in space thing in in in in Fire Island when
Speaker 1: Boone's talking about it, years ago, like we we went
Speaker 1: to go visit Sudie Green, who was a writer at
Speaker 1: the show, and we were sitting down and there was
Speaker 1: this writer there, his name was James. We're having a
Speaker 1: fun little time, like he's like this like hilarious gay
Speaker 1: guy that's like a writer there. And then randomly were like,
Speaker 1: do you know the sketch gays in Space? He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wrote that. And then it turns out he had
Speaker 1: written all this formative queer like SNL sketch like material
Speaker 1: that went. And this is the other thing about two
Speaker 1: is it's like I remember it was so important to
Speaker 1: me because it was like a way for me to
Speaker 1: fit in with like the straight guys. It's to be honest,
Speaker 1: like I I made friends through like quote SNL sketches
Speaker 1: like those like the drug Apple Tel movies. But like
Speaker 1: it was really another thing about it was not only
Speaker 1: did I actually connect with it, but it was a
Speaker 1: way to connect with each other, like and it's just
Speaker 1: when you're looking to connect with people, it is really
Speaker 1: important to have like that shared pop culture like knowledge,
Speaker 1: and so I thought it really worked. Listen, it is
Speaker 1: it can be vulnerable and intimate to even talk about
Speaker 1: obviously that's what you guys like this. There's so much
Speaker 1: of a podcast that is about that's like what this is.
Speaker 1: It's like a shared it's like a shared experience to
Speaker 1: pop culture. But it is such an inn too before
Speaker 1: you like, as you're getting to know someone. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think, but I think what Matt you're saying is
Speaker 1: that like they're like it was so important that there
Speaker 1: was someone like James there at the like and in
Speaker 1: the time that we grew up, James and Paula and
Speaker 1: like all the cree people who have ever been at
Speaker 1: us and now there's always been creep people at us
Speaker 1: and know what's which I always say, but like it
Speaker 1: was a way for you to like fit in with
Speaker 1: people because there was an entry point for almost everybody
Speaker 1: with SNL where you could like cherry pick like the
Speaker 1: queer thing and like present that and have everybody like,
Speaker 1: have everybody be like, oh yeah, that kind of has
Speaker 1: context with the stuff that we like to And so
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing, right, Am I making sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah a little? That's how you make friends. Like I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember I came into that this is not SNL,
Speaker 1: this is different, but it was anchorman. I was taking
Speaker 1: the worst time in high school, the worst, like like
Speaker 1: in middle school was bad. I was like, really just horrible,
Speaker 1: no friends, like I was deeply closeted, but like traumatized
Speaker 1: by that. I remember I went to go see Anchor man.
Speaker 1: My parents we went to we went to go um
Speaker 1: to some theme park at like something. I forget what
Speaker 1: where exactly, but it was rained out, like it was
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania had the worst rain in decades. What's the what's
Speaker 1: the Because you're from Dorney Park, thank you? Okay, So
Speaker 1: we were at Dorny Park. Are you a theme park, queen? No,
Speaker 1: I mean that's fine, They're fine. I mean I would
Speaker 1: I think I would like to. I haven't been a while.
Speaker 1: Maybe not, Yeah, I would love to go with you. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm basically I was so upset because Dorny Park was
Speaker 1: rained at. It was the most rain Pennsylvania had. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm not checking my watch ever had like and
Speaker 1: so my parents were like, I guess we'll go to
Speaker 1: the movies. And I was like, I'm so fucking upset
Speaker 1: and we're going to go see Anchorman. And I remember
Speaker 1: me and my cousin screaming, laughing because it was immediately quotable,
Speaker 1: and it was that sort of like big sketch type
Speaker 1: character and like you know, really essentially that movie is
Speaker 1: a series of sketches, and it's so when you feel
Speaker 1: that rhythm and you you get it, Like I remember,
Speaker 1: I brought it back to school with me, and I
Speaker 1: guess something. The way I made friends was other people
Speaker 1: had seen it too, and we could just quote it
Speaker 1: back to each other. And that's literally, in and of itself,
Speaker 1: a shared language. Literally. So ye, no one's quoting like
Speaker 1: I don't know why this movie is coming to me,
Speaker 1: but like no one's quoting like dramas, like no one's
Speaker 1: quoting nineteen seventeen. Do we each other? I don't know why.
Speaker 1: That's hell, I'm the only historical stuff I want to watch.
Speaker 1: Period stuff I want to watch is World War two
Speaker 1: era therefore a league of their own? Yeah, okay, that's
Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. Do you like period stuff? Do
Speaker 1: you watch like merchant Ivory films? I do, Like I
Speaker 1: think I'm not um, I'm not like I think I
Speaker 1: am an equal. I like not like specifically, but I
Speaker 1: do like period stuff. Yeah, I think it's nice. We
Speaker 1: are is this period? But the way in which we
Speaker 1: speak not on per intentionally obviously, people were like people
Speaker 1: didn't speak like that, you know that really like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know one said read the room the room. I
Speaker 1: was like, give me a oh my god. I am
Speaker 1: not on Twitter, but I have like chat, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll like everyone like what's going on? Little vanity certainly
Speaker 1: saw that. I saw that one by like a prolific writer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always the prolific writers. That happened. I was like,
Speaker 1: that was a that was a bummer of the day.
Speaker 1: I will like find I'm not even on it for
Speaker 1: this reason, and i will find the worst one and
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. Then that all these people hate
Speaker 1: it and they don't like the way in which I
Speaker 1: thought speaking more um modern, I felt I found a
Speaker 1: would be way more um connective to the castors because
Speaker 1: we're showing we're showing a way more modern lens on,
Speaker 1: like like you'd never see a period piece where you're
Speaker 1: like in friendships and in relationships in that way. I
Speaker 1: don't think. And so if we're going to do that,
Speaker 1: we're showing queer culture. Let's I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: like that would be a way smoother way in and
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to speak like
Speaker 1: what we usually see a nineteen forties period dialect B
Speaker 1: or whatever, because it would just sort of obscure, like
Speaker 1: the dynamics that play that have been sort of timeless
Speaker 1: and universal, you know, like it's just all along where
Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, like there there were like relationships
Speaker 1: like this, and obviously they were not like communicated in
Speaker 1: this sort of language but like or colloquialism. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like there was there there
Speaker 1: were stories like this that happened um in that time
Speaker 1: and in this setting. Yeah, it was tricky. I definitely
Speaker 1: like felt I was, but I'm like, you know, where't
Speaker 1: suck it. The friendships that I think that we that
Speaker 1: are in the show feel very much like today, and
Speaker 1: I think that's sort of that was like the goal.
Speaker 1: So fuck um you know the great writers of today
Speaker 1: that hated it and TV critics yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. What I wanted to say too is like
Speaker 1: and obviously like so I'll never forget watching that finale
Speaker 1: of Broad City, and I was obviously thinking of my
Speaker 1: sister and like you know what I mean, like you
Speaker 1: truly do right friendship so beautifully and you can tell
Speaker 1: it's because you have it so authentically. And I like,
Speaker 1: I remember when we had a Lana on the podcast,
Speaker 1: which now is like a few years ago bo like
Speaker 1: return which do for a return, but I think it
Speaker 1: was like right around when we were ending. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was so it was it was very thick like in
Speaker 1: this this. I remember asking her because I think we
Speaker 1: all have our own experiences with when you are such
Speaker 1: a unit and then like there's like a like a divergence,
Speaker 1: you know, just and you do and it happens in
Speaker 1: the finale, not just with you know, like with really
Speaker 1: every parent, and I think it's so beautiful, and I
Speaker 1: just like I wanted to ask you, like how do
Speaker 1: you and a lot of stay connected? Like have you
Speaker 1: stayed connected? Like is it what is it like to
Speaker 1: go from intense togetherness too then that like sort of
Speaker 1: beautiful gorgeous like flourishing that both of you guys have done,
Speaker 1: but still to know that that's something you have to
Speaker 1: water and maintain. Yeah, you know, it was such a
Speaker 1: meta thing because I still go back and forth to
Speaker 1: New York, but I'm definitely more in l A and Abbey.
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert for anyone who hasn't. Front City is like there,
Speaker 1: it's geography. It's like Abbe leaves New York and that
Speaker 1: was that was kind of happening, Like it was so meta,
Speaker 1: and so it's it's like we do not end up
Speaker 1: the fact that we don't do the show like we
Speaker 1: we're not. We were seeing each other every fucking day
Speaker 1: like she was, and so it has been such a
Speaker 1: learning curve and um, you know, she has a baby
Speaker 1: and there's like we're living like such different lives. But
Speaker 1: I think we go through waves just like sort of
Speaker 1: any friendship, especially in your thirties. I think where you
Speaker 1: like there's big life changes and things, and we go
Speaker 1: in waves of like being way more in touch, and
Speaker 1: then when we're not, it's like a bigger catchup, you know,
Speaker 1: and we I mean I always try to see her
Speaker 1: if she's in town and when I'm in New York,
Speaker 1: and there's like face times and stuff. But it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like a wave kind of but
Speaker 1: it does need that watering sure, but it's also like
Speaker 1: I listen even with this is it was. It also
Speaker 1: felt so intense to put this new show up because
Speaker 1: that wait, wait, wait, wait, that's that's my show. And
Speaker 1: that is like I love this new show and I
Speaker 1: love the people I made it with and the cast,
Speaker 1: and but it's like broad City and I said this,
Speaker 1: it is sort of just like my first love. Well,
Speaker 1: nothing will ever be like that. It was very pure.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't know every part of
Speaker 1: your experience working in it, but I hope you felt
Speaker 1: like I don't know that was it was just like
Speaker 1: this different energy of making that show and like so
Speaker 1: like it felt so d I y and like well
Speaker 1: like we're I can't we're you know, it was just
Speaker 1: like nuts. It was. It was the perfect speaking for myself.
Speaker 1: It was the perfect introduction for me, you know, like
Speaker 1: it was like reception for like people in New York
Speaker 1: who just like you know, wanted to like do comedy
Speaker 1: and work, and like it was you guys provided that.
Speaker 1: And also, and I will say before I forget Don
Speaker 1: Finelli and a leak of their own is a plus.
Speaker 1: And I've always thought he was so the funniest, the
Speaker 1: most talented person in your comedy and so long his
Speaker 1: podcast is so so so good. We were we were
Speaker 1: we were network sisters at one point on Forever Dog. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I just I think it's and he's so fantastic in
Speaker 1: the show, you know, he's so good and like Don
Speaker 1: and I met in an improv team too, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: like that was one of the best parts about broad City,
Speaker 1: was like we couldn't. I'm really upset Matt that we
Speaker 1: never had you on, but it was like this like
Speaker 1: place where we could. There was like this pool of
Speaker 1: incredible people and to get to have all these people on.
Speaker 1: And then I did feel that way in League to
Speaker 1: a certain extent. But Don, I mean Don that guy,
Speaker 1: and I really tried to I posted a photo, but
Speaker 1: his look is supposed to really lean into John Taturo
Speaker 1: and Barton Fink. I was like, exactly, actually the glasses.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we had teased his vibes, Don Finelli
Speaker 1: is tur turtle vibes, I know. And I was really
Speaker 1: trying to from knowing him then and knowing Darcy then
Speaker 1: and then you turn around and there's Darcy has like
Speaker 1: greheta gill, you know what I mean. It's like, like
Speaker 1: what a bombshell. Also, I could not believe, like even
Speaker 1: seeing some feedback that people never look at like, never
Speaker 1: saw Darcy as that type. She's never been cast like that.
Speaker 1: I mean she's always been gorgeous, but like that type,
Speaker 1: she was never been in our role and I'm like,
Speaker 1: here we go, guy's limit I mean it's literally just
Speaker 1: people saw her in one outfit for six years. I
Speaker 1: mean that's literally and she you know, like was cyclical
Speaker 1: in nature and but then like I mean lo and behold,
Speaker 1: like she gets like those opportunity like that one episode
Speaker 1: I believe it was like season or five where every
Speaker 1: version of jam and then you're like, yeah, because some
Speaker 1: people are limitless, like and it's so great to see
Speaker 1: like her gut like this not at a crazy fucking part,
Speaker 1: Like it's so good and what a layered like interesting character,
Speaker 1: I mean every character, and it's just but I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just so great, like it's so I'm so proud
Speaker 1: to like see it like this, Like it's really it's
Speaker 1: such a beautiful like it is a love letter to
Speaker 1: the original in so many ways. And I'll tell you
Speaker 1: another moment I got really emotional was when you guys
Speaker 1: sing the song Citiesn't He and far Well that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were like are we going to do it? It's
Speaker 1: it is a thing like I would get emotional, even
Speaker 1: like I'd be in my house like writing and I
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm gonna sing. We're gonna we have to
Speaker 1: sing it, and then like I would always get I
Speaker 1: mean I've seen it like hundreds of times in posts,
Speaker 1: but every time it's sort of like we made the decision,
Speaker 1: but like it goes from a sing into like the game,
Speaker 1: and I would get chills, and I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: if I'm still getting chills, like it's like yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that was wild to sing it. What is the most
Speaker 1: challenging part? And it has to be because we talked
Speaker 1: sometimes like about how you know, you see how many
Speaker 1: people it seems like, are like the creator of their show,
Speaker 1: the star of their show, the writer of their show,
Speaker 1: like very involved in every element, to the point where
Speaker 1: it almost seems like, oh, yeah, that's that's something that
Speaker 1: seems like very doable and easy. And then you see
Speaker 1: someone actually at number one on the call sheet who's
Speaker 1: like a co creator, and see how difficult that is.
Speaker 1: What is the most challenging part of like the totality
Speaker 1: of this being your show? You think, um, I let
Speaker 1: me see to say it's like it's tough. Yeah, just globally.
Speaker 1: The easiest part for me is the at thing is
Speaker 1: it perfect? Was such a challenge for me in this part.
Speaker 1: In an intentional way. I wanted to be able to
Speaker 1: showcase a little bit more of my range in this
Speaker 1: and I like, I am not a trained actor and
Speaker 1: did not go to school for acting. So like I
Speaker 1: I actually worked with a coach who works with like
Speaker 1: crazy actors, and I was like, oh, hold on, they
Speaker 1: work with coaches, Like, um, do you guys know that,
Speaker 1: like all your favorite actors worked with acting coaches, because
Speaker 1: that's the secret. I didn't know, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was ashamed of it at first, but I really
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time working with um, this coach,
Speaker 1: especially on the latter half of the season where it
Speaker 1: gets super emotional and like you know, all the things
Speaker 1: sort of like come to a head, and so that
Speaker 1: was maybe that's the most rewarding part of it, and
Speaker 1: the most fun is that is acting? For me? Oh
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the writing, especially for a show like this,
Speaker 1: and just you know, also it's such a big show,
Speaker 1: you know, like like an episode of this show is
Speaker 1: like a season of broad City. Like it's just like
Speaker 1: grand in scope and scale, and like thinking about like
Speaker 1: every costume, every place, everything is like huge and just
Speaker 1: like the arc of creating like stories like that. Also
Speaker 1: it's um, you know, we talked mostly about like my
Speaker 1: side of this story, but like the show is also
Speaker 1: like half Max's story. It's sort of like about just
Speaker 1: very quickly, it's about like the door for the all
Speaker 1: American girls professional Baseball League open for like white women
Speaker 1: and white passing women, which is like my character's journey
Speaker 1: and Darcy's character and the rest of the Peaches, and
Speaker 1: then that door closes for all other women of color
Speaker 1: who can play baseball. And it's like a very quick
Speaker 1: scene in the film where there's like no dial almost
Speaker 1: if you blink or cough, you missed the whole scene,
Speaker 1: but Penny Marshall was trying to allude to it. But
Speaker 1: like our show, be half of the show is is
Speaker 1: about uh Max Chapman, who's this black woman who does
Speaker 1: not isn't even allowed to try out, and like how
Speaker 1: does she go play professional baseball? And like what's her
Speaker 1: life like in her world? Like so like making sure
Speaker 1: that we're really there's like so much responsibility in honoring
Speaker 1: what that all these experiences would have really been, like
Speaker 1: so you know, there's a full research department and like
Speaker 1: research department on Broad City. You know, the test to
Speaker 1: feel like real and factual, and obviously we're taking liberties
Speaker 1: with like what these like private conversations and things would be.
Speaker 1: But it's like based on people. It was like a
Speaker 1: lot of that. I would have loved to have been
Speaker 1: on the research department on Broad City and like and
Speaker 1: got really fun high and went down to the fair Way,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think it's my all
Speaker 1: time favorite episode of Broad City. Is that bunny, that
Speaker 1: insane bunny that follows you around you it's a bunny.
Speaker 1: This is so funny. I was like, what's the bunny? Um?
Speaker 1: More like a creature. Yeah, he's voiced by Paul Downs
Speaker 1: as well. Oh my god, what can't that man hitched
Speaker 1: up his voice? But no, he's sort of like an
Speaker 1: imaginary like yeah, he's like yeah, but I guess he
Speaker 1: does have big years. He doesn't revisiting in my mind.
Speaker 1: Just now. I was like, it was a bunny to me,
Speaker 1: But you're right, it is a creature. It exists in
Speaker 1: its own plane of reality. Oh god, you just had
Speaker 1: Paul Downs And I'm like, yet again, someone who has
Speaker 1: been so fucking brilliant from the beginning, and to see
Speaker 1: them get everything they deserve that happens, Bro, We absolutely
Speaker 1: love that great. We love to see our favorite carcasses slang.
Speaker 1: I will say, like, it's a interesting that you are
Speaker 1: saying that the acting is the easiest part, because I'm
Speaker 1: sure this all gets sort of worked out in the
Speaker 1: writing beforehand. But it's like Carson is sort of the
Speaker 1: hub with all these different spokes that go out to
Speaker 1: different care Like I think Carson has to like play
Speaker 1: out all these relationships throughout the season between like Greta
Speaker 1: and Max and Shirley and like oh my God, and
Speaker 1: like and and and Beverly del Dickie Dicky, She's incredible,
Speaker 1: Like I can do anything. Some of those scenes were
Speaker 1: my favorite scenes. Well, we met Deale Dickie in Provincetown
Speaker 1: and I Dale Dickie came over to our side of
Speaker 1: the tables. I guess I have a conversation with like
Speaker 1: literally John Donald was this insane dinner we were at
Speaker 1: and I just go, I just go, Dale Dickie, you
Speaker 1: are an icon. It so great to meet you. And
Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, And I was like, I actually loved
Speaker 1: my life. No, I genuinely because I'm like Boon yang
Speaker 1: to you know what I mean, I'm always saying that bitch.
Speaker 1: That means you are a part of legacy. You have
Speaker 1: to look at yourself in the mirror and stroke your
Speaker 1: face because you're really are part of the legacy. That
Speaker 1: Dale fucking Dicky the icon. She was just such a
Speaker 1: good vibe. We met her very briefly that you can
Speaker 1: tell she's just like sweet, like funny, like the the
Speaker 1: most incredible actor truly, I mean truly, like an like
Speaker 1: an unsung hero of the craft. Like it's really wild.
Speaker 1: And I loved her character too because I you don't
Speaker 1: think about like the chaperoning of the time. That was
Speaker 1: another element of it that was so crazy is that
Speaker 1: and that had to be something that you were discovering too,
Speaker 1: and like the research of it all. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: a big part of it also, Like it's so funny.
Speaker 1: There was a scene we're all like cheers ng at
Speaker 1: the end and it's O Kate, like you know, we're
Speaker 1: you know, they're chaperoneing. Like the girls were younger, like
Speaker 1: in real life, like right before we'd be like they'd
Speaker 1: be like all right, we're rolling in actually and Kate
Speaker 1: would turn him and like we're forty, we're all like
Speaker 1: the chaperone comes in and it's like it is and
Speaker 1: she's like reporting we're all for like we're like you
Speaker 1: so old, like you know, the chaperone was there for
Speaker 1: like like it's younger. They were like a little bit
Speaker 1: of arranged like year olds don't need a chaperone. But
Speaker 1: I guess in the forties, like it was more we're
Speaker 1: all in our thirties. But you know, it's like what
Speaker 1: is happening. We're drinking. You know. Also, I have to
Speaker 1: just go back because I know people are going to
Speaker 1: be like, well, you say the acting was easy, maybe
Speaker 1: you should have done it better. You know. That's like
Speaker 1: my my like thought process. And I don't mean easy,
Speaker 1: I just mean like maybe the like most um it
Speaker 1: came naturally my most I think it was the most
Speaker 1: like um exciting part, like the most like the fun
Speaker 1: part rather than easy. Yes, I apologize for miss you know,
Speaker 1: I think I said easy person. I'm like what they're
Speaker 1: going to come and give me because I said I
Speaker 1: was saying that. It's surprising because I feel like you
Speaker 1: you did just you Yeah, you were really good in
Speaker 1: the show. You really were you were excellent. I remember
Speaker 1: my dad. My dad like watched it right when it
Speaker 1: came out, and he was like, she's incredible, Like my
Speaker 1: Long Island, she was incredible. She's incredible. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I think he thinks he thinks that, like, um, we
Speaker 1: have known each other for three decades. I know, but
Speaker 1: there's a thing about like I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: we do also because there's like there's like this grouping
Speaker 1: of people that I feel that way about that like
Speaker 1: sort of are like I don't know, like do like
Speaker 1: we're like do you know what I'm saying? Up around
Speaker 1: when a lot of came in, we felt we we
Speaker 1: all sat down, we were it was an old girl,
Speaker 1: it was old girlfriends. It was it was knowing each
Speaker 1: other first, like I said, three decades never and I
Speaker 1: remember it was so funny. We we literally we literally
Speaker 1: um we left like that podcast recording and it was
Speaker 1: me bowing and Alana all holding hand saying this is
Speaker 1: just the beginning. And then the pandemic happened. Like it
Speaker 1: was so funny. We were like, this is the beginning,
Speaker 1: Like that was it was. She was being so funny
Speaker 1: and alanau like this is the beginning of something incredible
Speaker 1: and then like the pandemic and I'll never I'll never
Speaker 1: see it. Cat girl, Oh she's the best, She's the best.
Speaker 1: Oh wait quickly, I want to say. I was thinking
Speaker 1: of my sister Matt Rodders in the scene where in
Speaker 1: the scene where Max and Plants say goodbye, I was
Speaker 1: making me cry so hard. I was crying at that
Speaker 1: because it reminded me of the moment Matt and I
Speaker 1: were at Little Field the day before I was starting
Speaker 1: to work at S and Now, and it was just
Speaker 1: the moment we both like looked into each other's eyes
Speaker 1: and we're like okay, like we're sending each other off
Speaker 1: into like our own separate ways, and like who knows,
Speaker 1: Like who knows when this will all happen, you know,
Speaker 1: like who knows what will happen next? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I immediately flashed to that, Matt, did you know you
Speaker 1: know what I'm I'm stobbing on control beyond control um,
Speaker 1: but like you know what it was, It was like
Speaker 1: I remember, I'll never forget. Like there was like Bowen
Speaker 1: was getting he was deciding whether or not to take
Speaker 1: the job pretty much, and he called me and I
Speaker 1: was in the subway and I was going to meet
Speaker 1: up with Sudi. I was like, and you were, and
Speaker 1: you were like you had said this, you were like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the job, like and because we
Speaker 1: were scared that it would like stop things that we
Speaker 1: were doing, which in retrospect like it's so wild, like
Speaker 1: helping turn out. But but I remember, yeah, sure, got
Speaker 1: on the subway to go meet up with Sudi, our
Speaker 1: our dear friend, Sutie who's also worked at SNL, And
Speaker 1: I sat down at dinner with her, and I was
Speaker 1: just like sitting in the experience of like watching him
Speaker 1: get this like dream and like like knowing that he
Speaker 1: was going to go on to like beautiful, amazing things.
Speaker 1: And like when these two are parting at the end
Speaker 1: and she's getting on the bus to go, you know,
Speaker 1: pursue her dream, it's like you as the other person,
Speaker 1: like you it's it's it's really I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just again the way that you flesh out friendship and
Speaker 1: that moment and just I'll never forget to Like that
Speaker 1: finale of Broad City, I could tell your emotions were
Speaker 1: so genuine, you know what I mean, Like the two
Speaker 1: of you filming that scene, like can I ask I've
Speaker 1: actually always wanted to ask this, What was the experience
Speaker 1: of shooting that scene where you know you're telling each
Speaker 1: other what you mean to each other and that like
Speaker 1: things are going to change, but not really as I
Speaker 1: my eyes well up with tears. The last thing we
Speaker 1: shot with like the Boulder stuff, like went actually went
Speaker 1: to Boulder, Colorado. But other than that that was like
Speaker 1: weeks you know, that was like maybe like a week
Speaker 1: later or something. So we made which we didn't usually
Speaker 1: get the luxury of doing of like shooting everything in
Speaker 1: order or like the last scene has to be the
Speaker 1: last scene. And it was like in a storia overnight
Speaker 1: into like morning, and we never would do anything like
Speaker 1: this where we were like, we need that. We're going
Speaker 1: to pause because like time money, you know, we're gonna pause.
Speaker 1: We're going into a van for a little while now,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna everyone has to wait, which like we
Speaker 1: would know we would never do that, And we just
Speaker 1: like went into this little minivan and like talked and
Speaker 1: basically said all those things and then like came out
Speaker 1: and a lot of that was scripted, and then a
Speaker 1: lot of that wasn't, and it was like, let's just
Speaker 1: let this be all of it, you know, like on
Speaker 1: and it's like it's so on and off screen, like
Speaker 1: it's so both of it. Because also like if you
Speaker 1: watch broad City, like at least for me, like Alanna
Speaker 1: was this person more like would I be queer if
Speaker 1: I had not metal? Like I would I would be queer,
Speaker 1: but like would I know I was clear if I
Speaker 1: had not met Allanna? Like that was so like she
Speaker 1: was that person that was like you're hot, Like how
Speaker 1: do you not know you're hot? That stuff? I mean
Speaker 1: that thread throughout the whole series, I love, Like I
Speaker 1: would not have been like my ass is great, Like
Speaker 1: so it's so dumb and also not at all. It's
Speaker 1: so important where you need Like I did not have
Speaker 1: someone that like was more confident than in me than
Speaker 1: me and I think when you find that person in
Speaker 1: and like she hopefully I gave that to her, you know,
Speaker 1: the things to her too. But it was like such
Speaker 1: a meta experience and the ending was like we were
Speaker 1: just saying what we felt because it was true for both,
Speaker 1: you know, to both for both Abbeys and Alana's Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like literally crying. People feel very seen by that.
Speaker 1: And so just like I don't know. I guess I
Speaker 1: didn't even realize how much that meant to me watching
Speaker 1: that until, you know, just talking about it just now.
Speaker 1: But it was truly every moment the band was worth it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not me sobbing noting the third time today. I really
Speaker 1: was overserved. Bro, you were over sir. I'm we're we're
Speaker 1: overserving the audience with with incredible content on this episode.
Speaker 1: We must absolutely sail on to our final segment, which
Speaker 1: is I don't think so, honey. Yes, if you don't know,
Speaker 1: now you know, it's a one minute segment that is
Speaker 1: world famous. It is the trades Um and we take
Speaker 1: one minute to ranting at something in culture that is
Speaker 1: grinding our years. Yeah, and I have, and it's it's
Speaker 1: actually it's sports related. Okay, this is this is huge,
Speaker 1: This is Mount Rogers. I don't think so, honey, sports related.
Speaker 1: His time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Second
Speaker 1: basement erasier. I feel like people think that shortstop is
Speaker 1: the cool position and the harder position, and yes it
Speaker 1: is more of the glue of the infield, but second
Speaker 1: baseman get erased. Second base has a lot to do.
Speaker 1: They actually have to cover several bags as they call it. Okay,
Speaker 1: and also not for nothing, but second base sometimes has
Speaker 1: to play a little bit of outfield to okay, depending
Speaker 1: on what the outfield is doing. Second base is difficult,
Speaker 1: and if you have a shitty second baseman, your team
Speaker 1: is sinking to the bottom. Okay. His name was Chuck Knoblock.
Speaker 1: He was a Yankees or second baseman, I believe. And
Speaker 1: this was back in the late nineties or like maybe
Speaker 1: two thousand when I was really in the ship, and
Speaker 1: I remember it was a flop second basement for the
Speaker 1: Yankees and was the bane of the state's existence. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Second base is hard. It's a hard one.
Speaker 1: Third base a lot of drama goes on there because
Speaker 1: it's right by home, so it's sort of a hot spot,
Speaker 1: you know, shortstop, that's where the hot guys play, your
Speaker 1: dark pet rods and stuff like that. And then first base,
Speaker 1: I think, because it's sort of initially what's going on,
Speaker 1: it gets a lot of attention. Second base gets raised.
Speaker 1: And don't forget about second basements. This is coming from
Speaker 1: a center fielder. Okay. The glue of the outfield, I'm
Speaker 1: saying that. Remember your girl. One minute and eleven seconds.
Speaker 1: Wow's important, that's important. You didn't think she could ball?
Speaker 1: Who played a second base on the fictional Rockford Peaches.
Speaker 1: First of all, so gorgeous. Yes, truly really love her
Speaker 1: her Her scenes with Roberta were always I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I love that we're seeing it, like like the white
Speaker 1: pass is amazing. You're like, that's another element that you
Speaker 1: were like, oh, that must have figured into like this story,
Speaker 1: like in that time. Loved it, you know what I
Speaker 1: love to like at the end, um, when Darcy is
Speaker 1: speaking to the woman who's like the like the beauty woman,
Speaker 1: like the beauty consultant, and she's like, you know, baseball
Speaker 1: is like it's too slow for me, And then Greta says, well,
Speaker 1: there's always something going on. It's happening all the time.
Speaker 1: You just have to look. And that is so true
Speaker 1: about baseball, Like, um, it really is such a fun
Speaker 1: sport to watch when you know what's happening and allow
Speaker 1: yourself to be invested. There's actually nothing like it. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's I think probably my favorite sport to watch
Speaker 1: because there is so much drama in it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's a very dramatic game. Yes,
Speaker 1: because it's not fast paced. Yes, it is a really
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm now like, I'm want to go to
Speaker 1: a game game in a while. The Dodgers are away
Speaker 1: right now. Actually look because my parents are in town
Speaker 1: and my dad would have loved to have gone. But
Speaker 1: then I realized, like, oh, it's fully like the end
Speaker 1: of the year. Like it's not just the thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: my gay dumb mass is like, oh well, I'll just
Speaker 1: get online and buy a ticket. It's like, no, there's
Speaker 1: a season and then they're doing their thing. It's not
Speaker 1: like when your dad's here, you can just go. I
Speaker 1: wish I would have thought that you could. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: bow and yang. Okay that yours isn't going to be
Speaker 1: about baseball. It's not, but it kind it might have
Speaker 1: to do with baseball. Okay, here we go. Okay, well
Speaker 1: this is bowen Yang. I don't think so many of
Speaker 1: times stars now, I don't think so many hobbies. It's
Speaker 1: called get a job, make it your career. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: there are no boundaries anymore between work and and leisure.
Speaker 1: Make them one worse sick where six society, and there's
Speaker 1: no other choice but to have zero boundaries in your
Speaker 1: life and to have your work be your life. And
Speaker 1: I know that sounds bad, that sounds rough and undesirable,
Speaker 1: but there's no way around it. You like to draw, honey,
Speaker 1: sell the drawings on Etsy. You like to you like
Speaker 1: to garden, honey, take pictures, sell the picture online. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just I'm just stating facts. I wish
Speaker 1: you weren't like this. But hobbies are over. No one
Speaker 1: who among you has had a hobby. There's no such
Speaker 1: thing as hobbies. There are distractions from the thing that
Speaker 1: you should be making a career from your hobby. It's
Speaker 1: all side hustle. Now, there is no way around this.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to inform art generation that you can't
Speaker 1: have a hobby anymore. Who take those photos of your gardens?
Speaker 1: Them say you want to you want to peek into
Speaker 1: my life. It's gonna cost you open up the tour
Speaker 1: to your garden and price. God, that was a capitalist nightmare. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: mine is not that mine. So we'll see even what
Speaker 1: I say. Okay, okayk her time starts now. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Latest iPad tipping protocols Okay, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: all for tipping all right, I love tipping. I love
Speaker 1: tipping my borisa, I love tipping my servers. I love tipping, tipping, tipping.
Speaker 1: But later, lately there's an iPad, and lately coffee shops
Speaker 1: have become markets. Okay, so I'm going food shopping and
Speaker 1: then maybe I'll get a coffee, and then automatically it's
Speaker 1: been tallied to tip on my full market order, So
Speaker 1: like what what? Okay? And also if tipping is supposed
Speaker 1: to be now for your full market order, I need
Speaker 1: to know then it But I am it feels like
Speaker 1: I'm being sort of like tricked into tipping for my
Speaker 1: full like I bought, like I bought a toe bag,
Speaker 1: I bought coffee, a bag of coffee, I bought all
Speaker 1: this stuff. Am I supposed to be tipping on my
Speaker 1: full market order or just a coffee? And then it's
Speaker 1: in my I fully am a jew and I realized
Speaker 1: this is very chewy. But what are they? I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like no or no to the protocols or yes,
Speaker 1: like I we need to know that's right now, that's
Speaker 1: one minute. Let's talk about this. Okay. In COVID, it
Speaker 1: became a market. It because coffee shops became marketplaces, so
Speaker 1: so I don't like that we are all and then
Speaker 1: I'm guilty. I feel guilty every time typing in a
Speaker 1: like a three dollars Now, I'm like, I'll give you
Speaker 1: three dollars on a coffee because I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: not giving you twenty five or like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, because and I'm also the person that
Speaker 1: on on like like on principle because I was a
Speaker 1: server for so long, I will make a whole thing
Speaker 1: of like topping like watch me go and then like
Speaker 1: so that they know that I'm one of the best
Speaker 1: tippers in America. And then I walk away and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be thousands in debt one day because coffee
Speaker 1: shops are a marketplace and I'm tipping on topags and
Speaker 1: many topags. But I'm like, you know, you're gathering like
Speaker 1: there's like it's a market now you get you get
Speaker 1: a candle in the mix, you get a fucking like
Speaker 1: beanie or some such or even like they're they're selling,
Speaker 1: like um, like what am I talking about? You guys
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking Like, I wish we all had
Speaker 1: a commonplace, but there's a lot of these places that
Speaker 1: are both, but there's a when you buy it, it
Speaker 1: comes up the tips and you are like expect, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, because in big block letters it
Speaker 1: says sometimes it's yes, and so I will always slam
Speaker 1: that and it's it's true, like it's it's on the
Speaker 1: totality of an order. And sometimes I lived I lived
Speaker 1: in green Point? Did you live in green Point? I
Speaker 1: remembering this up. I didn't live in green Point. I
Speaker 1: live okay, well Suggestion, Brooklyn, okay, and meats and spices,
Speaker 1: and you buy like I'm gonna buy, like there's some
Speaker 1: apples and there's some like you know, you buy like
Speaker 1: you're you're kind of like getting some groceries. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: if this is the new norm, okay, But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm confused every time I go yeah, do you carry cash? No? Neither,
Speaker 1: That's fine, That's fine. Here's the thing. Any time I tip,
Speaker 1: not any time coffee shop I go to here in Williamsburg,
Speaker 1: I tipped. They see me, press the button, press the screen,
Speaker 1: they feel nothing, and I go, is this registering? Is
Speaker 1: this landing? Are you I don't need the credit? But
Speaker 1: this is I bring this up? You no let me
Speaker 1: let me finish the point. Let me finish the point.
Speaker 1: I say this to illustrates or to bring up something
Speaker 1: and go. Do you think they care? I I think
Speaker 1: doesn't make a difference to them if you just tip
Speaker 1: on the coffee. If a tree falls in the woods
Speaker 1: and no one hears it, does Bow and Yang get
Speaker 1: credit as a celebrity tipper? Well, I mean, listen, it
Speaker 1: is also like I do like I also same was
Speaker 1: a server was a recently like those that matters, like
Speaker 1: I totally like if I go to a coffee shop
Speaker 1: and just I get a coffee, I'm always be like,
Speaker 1: this is an important I need this. You like you're
Speaker 1: doing a great job. But there's a one you're made
Speaker 1: that's also a wine shop. So I'm going to a
Speaker 1: wine and I'm going to get like a coffee and
Speaker 1: then I'm like, all of a sudden tipping like it's
Speaker 1: and I've done it. I've done it, like you're watching
Speaker 1: me do it? Yeah, do it. Here's what needs to happen.
Speaker 1: It's not up to us to solve because here's what
Speaker 1: every coffee shop in the world, in the country, I'm sorry, listening, listening,
Speaker 1: Every coffee shop worker needs to unionize and then we
Speaker 1: just tip him as just tip him at, like you know,
Speaker 1: in a very casual way, the way that it was
Speaker 1: meant to be done, and there can't be this much stick.
Speaker 1: Of course, tipping matters. It's important. It affects the reality
Speaker 1: of things. But it is not up to us to
Speaker 1: to to do that. Do you do do you understand? Yes?
Speaker 1: You mean you're saying like it shouldn't be like listen,
Speaker 1: it matters so much right now to how much they
Speaker 1: make where it should actually be like an extra even
Speaker 1: though we want, like I will never stop tipping, but never, never, never.
Speaker 1: We're not anti tipping, We're just I just it's all
Speaker 1: getting so it's all getting very occluded. Okay, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love that word occluded. Yeah, I'm never amazing. When
Speaker 1: I think she's running, I think you're running. You're running,
Speaker 1: You're gonna and even if you don't run, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get treasury, you know what I mean? Because I have
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I don't think you'd win president,
Speaker 1: I really but I think that you wouldn't win, but
Speaker 1: I think that you get far enough, like you'd make
Speaker 1: a Buddha judge. Impact to the point where you get
Speaker 1: like a good job in the treasury, because that's what
Speaker 1: you really want and you can really change things. As
Speaker 1: are you excited about changing things? When you look at
Speaker 1: the mirror and stroke your face and think of a
Speaker 1: legacy you're a part of it. What you'll do in
Speaker 1: the world. Are you excited about breaking boundaries? I'm excited about.
Speaker 1: Here's what here's here's my first item on the agenda,
Speaker 1: speaking of iPad tipping protocol. Okay, whenever I get rung
Speaker 1: up for three dollar coffee and the tipping options are one, two,
Speaker 1: and three dollars, I'm bringing that back down because this
Speaker 1: is what I because this is what I'm a rich woman. No, no, no, well,
Speaker 1: this is what I do. Three dollar coffee almost always
Speaker 1: can't help it. I always do a two dollar tip.
Speaker 1: I take them sixty six percent, and that's fine. I
Speaker 1: don't mind doing it. But I go, something's going on here.
Speaker 1: The iPad is really affecting things. And that's what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is. It is where you're like, it is this
Speaker 1: thing also COVID because like tipping felt so essentially like
Speaker 1: it was like you're you're really really acknowledging essential workers
Speaker 1: and stuff like. It's maybe then we get rid of
Speaker 1: the iPads. And you know what I really don't like
Speaker 1: for the servers is when they have to ringing orders
Speaker 1: on those like essentially with those game boys that they
Speaker 1: carry around. You know what I'm saying, Like when they
Speaker 1: have to plug in the order in front of you.
Speaker 1: And I literally stop my waitress the other day and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so sorry, Like does this stress
Speaker 1: you out? Have to put this order in at the
Speaker 1: table with us looking at you, And she actually turned
Speaker 1: to me, she locked eyes with me. Know I love it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you love it? She was like, I
Speaker 1: love it. I love being able to stand here because
Speaker 1: I helped me connect with the table. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm talking to a crazy person. That's like,
Speaker 1: we're going to have amazing tonight. Around there are some
Speaker 1: careers ground Round that you know, girl, That's that's how
Speaker 1: you know it's giving. It's giving. They would play like
Speaker 1: old like move black and white movies and you'd get
Speaker 1: like a bowl of popcorn. Yeah, ground Round, Oh you're
Speaker 1: really bringing me back, miss Lee and I would often
Speaker 1: have a jukebox class the ground Round. I think they
Speaker 1: also would way you I don't like that, like and
Speaker 1: you would get like some sort of thing to me
Speaker 1: neither some sort of thing as a kid, like like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a funked up act. I think that I was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I think they went down. I think they went down.
Speaker 1: I think as like as like a contest or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh my god, what kind we're at at?
Speaker 1: Like no, no, some parts it's like guess like that
Speaker 1: is my fucking nightmare, Like does your weight like the
Speaker 1: funk out of here in the nineties to be like
Speaker 1: a stand it's like, yeah, you know, entertainment was just
Speaker 1: guessing weight, Come on, bring us back that. But and
Speaker 1: and lo and behold that is a reality show that
Speaker 1: would be Greenland like now, yeah, yes, there way, But
Speaker 1: then you feel like keep of her hosts it. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah, I love she does. I wanted to
Speaker 1: her weight. Yes, why not? Wow, Honestly, that is terrible
Speaker 1: and hilarious. It's like a dirty rock joke come to
Speaker 1: hellish life. Yeah, well that's where we are. That's where
Speaker 1: we are. Well, where I am right now is drenched
Speaker 1: in tears profuse like thick, joyful energy because the show
Speaker 1: is so good. You did such an incredible job, and
Speaker 1: I just can't say enough, like I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously it's out there to watch now you can fucking
Speaker 1: stream your ass off eight episodes of this incredible series,
Speaker 1: Like you nailed it, and we're so excited that you
Speaker 1: came to be on the show. Oh my goodness, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. This is such an honor to finally
Speaker 1: be on the show. I'm like, oh, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: never going to be on. Know, it felt like so stupid.
Speaker 1: It's now at the point where it's like people that
Speaker 1: haven't been on like you, It's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Like this is so crazy but so fun. I'm such
Speaker 1: a fan you guys know that. And Matt, I can't
Speaker 1: believe we've never met. I know, And can I say
Speaker 1: when you've watched Fire Island and you you posted about story,
Speaker 1: I was that was so nice that you tagged me too,
Speaker 1: because we had never met, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's so sweet. It was like we have though, right,
Speaker 1: I know, Ery, you feel like we know each other.
Speaker 1: But it's we're going everyone's going to do any park
Speaker 1: and we'll get a Lana in there too. She can
Speaker 1: get the babies. Yeah, yeah, that's easy, Easy, easy day. Well,
Speaker 1: we end every episode with the song Oh my god,
Speaker 1: What's I guess it? What is the song? We're all for?
Speaker 1: What We're All. It's one of those songs where you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this song, and then you go to
Speaker 1: sing it and you're like, yeah, this bye.