WEBVTT - The Tesla Tale Part One

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com. Hey there, everyone, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren Foam and Lauren Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we would talk about something a few of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners have fast us about in the past. Tesla Motors. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we did an episode on Elon Musk back on March thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called tech Stuff looks at Elon Musk Uh

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<v Speaker 1>sensibly enough, and I think in that episode we were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll totally do an episode on Tesla Motors soon, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we never did that thing. One year later to

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<v Speaker 1>the day, it is March thirteen, two thousand and fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>As we sit here in the studio, we are recording

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of episodes, as it turns out, on Tesla Motors,

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<v Speaker 1>because even though it's a young company, they've the company

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<v Speaker 1>has done a lot of stuff and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things to cover um largely in part to Mr Musk,

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<v Speaker 1>who has had quite the impact on the technological world

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<v Speaker 1>and multiple venues, not just in electric cars. Right. He

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<v Speaker 1>was not one of the original founders though, No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Back in two thousand three, there were a pair of

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<v Speaker 1>silicon Valley investors named Martin Eberhard and Mark Tarpinning who

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<v Speaker 1>formed the company Tesla Motors, and their goal was to

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<v Speaker 1>make a commercially successful electric car. In fact, they say

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<v Speaker 1>they will not stop until every car on the road

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<v Speaker 1>is electric. Now, neither of them had really any car experience,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they drove them, but not making them. But

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<v Speaker 1>they felt that they had the business plan that would

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<v Speaker 1>make the electric car a viable option in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States in particular. And you got to remember, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know your car history, electric cars actually pre date internal

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<v Speaker 1>combustion engine cars, so this is sort of a throwback

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<v Speaker 1>in a way. But trying to make the electric car

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<v Speaker 1>actually work because everyone was always worried that the electric

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<v Speaker 1>car would have a very narrow range of like you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to go very far sure, and also

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<v Speaker 1>various um potential safety issues involving the materials the batteries

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<v Speaker 1>were made out of worry that if it got too cold,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be able to start your car, sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>and also just the the general cheapness and propensity of

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<v Speaker 1>of gasoline. Yeah, the fact that they had been around

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<v Speaker 1>and and been on top for a century meant that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, making making a road two use a pun

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<v Speaker 1>into this industry. Yeah, there's the there's the high roll.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that would be would be you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>significant challenge. So two thousand three they start up, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be until April two thousand four that Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk gets involved, right, he invested heavily in the company,

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<v Speaker 1>like to the tune of six point three million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and joined its board of directors. Yep and ebro Hard

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<v Speaker 1>became the CEO of Tesla Motors that will become very

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<v Speaker 1>important in a little bit. And together they planned to

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<v Speaker 1>create for their first attempt, a high end sports car

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<v Speaker 1>called the Tesla Roadster, which they estimated the original actual price,

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<v Speaker 1>like what what customers would pay for it would be

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two thousand dollars per car, and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have them on the road before the end of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand six. Now this is April two thousand four when

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<v Speaker 1>this is being discussed, and that is a pretty ridiculously

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<v Speaker 1>lofty goal for anybody, let alone a consumer car company.

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<v Speaker 1>Y I yeah, car company that has no manufacturing factories, no,

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<v Speaker 1>like they have no anything, there's no infrastructure for them yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's very ambitious sure, and even more ambitious

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<v Speaker 1>was that that wasn't their sole goal that they were planning,

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<v Speaker 1>even at this very early stage, to to look ahead

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<v Speaker 1>to to produce a luxury electric sedan UM for for

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<v Speaker 1>competition with like Mercedes Benz and BMW stuff like that

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<v Speaker 1>UM and then with with proven sales and profits from

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<v Speaker 1>these two high end cars, to create a low cost

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<v Speaker 1>electric line for everybody. Right, So, these first few ideas

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<v Speaker 1>that they have, they admitted straight out like these are

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<v Speaker 1>high end items. This isn't the kind of stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna look at for the family car, unless you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you happen to be of the Gates family or something. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's definitely one of those where people of high

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<v Speaker 1>incomes are able to afford. In fact, there were many

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<v Speaker 1>people who were criticizing Tesla for having a business plan

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<v Speaker 1>that was catering only to rich people who wanted a

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<v Speaker 1>third car. That was pretty much the way a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these early reports were going. Anyway, time passes and

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot to talk about. Between two thousand four

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<v Speaker 1>and two thousand six, that was really when they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting their business plan in order, starting to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what their production chain was going to be. But in

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<v Speaker 1>August two thousand six, that's when they really started to

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<v Speaker 1>promote the fact that you could put down a deposit

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<v Speaker 1>on one of the first one hundred Tesla roadster sports cars.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a paltry deposit, just a tiny little amount, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than they had originally plan. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a hundred thousand dollars deposit deposit, meaning that there

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<v Speaker 1>was actually going to be more to pay afterward. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And a couple of notable people put down deposits. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them were environmentalists or Silicon Valley millionaires. Also

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<v Speaker 1>a famous actor, Mr George Clooney, he put down a

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<v Speaker 1>deposit for one. But at that point there's still no

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<v Speaker 1>roadster to actually drive yet, right, They hadn't really made

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<v Speaker 1>all that much headway on on that quite yet. As

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<v Speaker 1>February two seven, they announced plans to build a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollar plant in Albuquerque, New Mexico, to build

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<v Speaker 1>what would be come the model S sedan, that electrics,

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<v Speaker 1>that electric car you were talking about earlier than the

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<v Speaker 1>luxury sedan, right, Yeah, So that was gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>place where that would be built. And so they start

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out that this is gonna be the method

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<v Speaker 1>that they follow in order to uh to follow up

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<v Speaker 1>the roadster plan once that was on uh into the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Still not there yet though, so uh they missed their

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand six goal obviously of getting roadsters out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still working on it. And at September two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand seven they hit another delay. And UH this was

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<v Speaker 1>because they were having a lot of internal problems. There

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<v Speaker 1>were budgets they were getting slipped. I mean already you

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<v Speaker 1>saw that they had planned on having being sports car,

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<v Speaker 1>which presumably means that they thought they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>sell it for more than what it costs to put

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<v Speaker 1>it together. This is the way generally business is done.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure that that price tag was eventually bumped up to

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred nine thousand UM, but but they were finding

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<v Speaker 1>out that some of their manufacturing processes were more expensive

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<v Speaker 1>than they had anticipated. Also that some of their manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>plants didn't have the physical capacity to create the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that they wanted to create, which is problematic. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think this sounds kind of similar to when

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about SpaceX and and the challenges musk

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<v Speaker 1>encountered in that, you'd be right. I mean, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these are very similar problems, obviously two different scales,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about driving on the roads versus blasting off into space.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's one of those things where when

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<v Speaker 1>you come from an Internet background the way Musk did, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you then go into a manufacturing world, the world

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<v Speaker 1>is very different and there's some realities that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to come face to face with. Absolutely. Meanwhile, speaking of manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 1>around the same time, Musk began talking with German manufacturer

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<v Speaker 1>UM Daimler about selling Tesla battery packs for for Dameler's

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<v Speaker 1>lightweight and expensive smart cars, which were not yet available

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<v Speaker 1>in the US at that time. Um there's there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a really fun story about this, involving the Tesla ct

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<v Speaker 1>O j V strable, like getting finance to give him

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<v Speaker 1>a bag with twenty tho dollars in cash. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>sounding like a fun story already. So that an engineer's

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<v Speaker 1>friend who spoke Spanish could go to Mexico to Tijuana

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<v Speaker 1>to to the nearest UM Daimler smart card dealer and

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<v Speaker 1>drive back in a Smart Um and then they and

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<v Speaker 1>so they did that, that is what they actually did.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they gutted it and put in a custom

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<v Speaker 1>battery and engine to show it off to the Daimler

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<v Speaker 1>heads when they came and visited their facility. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you tell me fun story TiO Juana, Mexico, that's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty crazy tale. Yeah, in November and December

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand seven, this is when controversy really hit

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla Motors. Okay, so ebro Hard had been the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>since around two thousand four, you know, once they had

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<v Speaker 1>really started formally kind of organizing this company, and he

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<v Speaker 1>gets ousted, booted from his own company. Remember he was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the co founders of this company. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he got demoted and then kind of left. Sharply, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not positive it was a booting as much

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<v Speaker 1>as a self booting. I think it was both. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of animosity involved there that Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>demoting was clearly like it sounded like he was being

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<v Speaker 1>demoted it into an advisory capacity, which kind of sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like he's not being really part of the company anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it was definitely not a comfortable position, comfortable situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And Forbes actually wrote an article right around that time.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an article in Forbes about about this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying that it wasn't a huge surprise um partly because

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<v Speaker 1>Eberhard had what they called limited management experience and he

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time CEO and wasn't ready to be

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<v Speaker 1>a leader for that And in fact, Musk said very

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<v Speaker 1>similar things, but um Aberhard didn't really take it very well.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually sued the company and Elon Musk and claimed

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<v Speaker 1>that Musk had defamed him and said that the defamation

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<v Speaker 1>result it was was, what it was centered on, was

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<v Speaker 1>that Eberhard was the reason that Tesla Motors had had

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<v Speaker 1>so many delays. And he also added there was a

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<v Speaker 1>breach in contract because under the contract he was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to receive the second Tesla roadster ever made, and he

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that the car he ended up getting was a

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<v Speaker 1>lemon and at thousand dollars worth of parts that need

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<v Speaker 1>to be replaced or something along those lines like. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>he said that, uh, that he was cheated out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Musk on his part, he countered Musk, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>not really shy about sharing his opinion, particularly on any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of blog he has access. He's pretty direct. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he will write in detail exactly like he will, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes very logically and very smugly. Yeah, yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little little smugness there. But he said that Eberhard

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<v Speaker 1>had initially estimated that the cost of manufacture for a

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<v Speaker 1>roadster would be around sixty five thousand dollars, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what they based their nine two dollars starting price on,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it ended up being more like a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>forty thousand dollars per car just to make it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is way above even that that in increased a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand dollar tag that they had come out with

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later. Yeah, so that means they're selling

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<v Speaker 1>cars at a loss. Now, this might work if your

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<v Speaker 1>company makes I don't know, video game consoles and video games,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be able to sell a video game console

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<v Speaker 1>at a loss and make it up in the game

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<v Speaker 1>sales later, especially if you're selling things in the millions

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<v Speaker 1>of units. Yeah, make it up for volume. But in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, if you're selling every unit at a loss,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't make it up in volume. You just see

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<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of money going out the door. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was definitely a contentious situation. So Eberhard gets the

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<v Speaker 1>boot and uh for briefly. They ended up having a

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<v Speaker 1>a CEO from outside the company come in, uh named

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<v Speaker 1>Zev Drury. I believe that's how you pronounced the name.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a former Israeli paratrooper and Um had a

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<v Speaker 1>no nonsense attitude according to many reports, right and uh

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<v Speaker 1>so Drury would be CEO briefly and then must would

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<v Speaker 1>end up taking the helm later on. So then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>Musk becomes the CEO. Sure he would also put another

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million dollars of his own funding into the company

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<v Speaker 1>around that time, UM And simultaneously UM there was pressure

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<v Speaker 1>from the market. Other car companies like like Chevy, We're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to announce electric vehicles or even coming out with

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<v Speaker 1>prototypes at their own right, right, so, you know, hybrids

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<v Speaker 1>were already a thing at this point, but pure electric

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles were very much in that sort of prototype concept

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<v Speaker 1>car stage. But now there was a more serious push

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<v Speaker 1>behind it. I mean, Tesla had kind of proven just

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<v Speaker 1>by people putting down a hundred thousand dollars as a

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<v Speaker 1>deposit for a car that was still a year or

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<v Speaker 1>two out of of production that you know, if that

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<v Speaker 1>shows a demand, then other companies are going to jump

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<v Speaker 1>on that as well. And it wasn't until March two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight two years after Tesla had planned on

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<v Speaker 1>having the Roadster out there in the public, that Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>Motors actually began to produce the roadster. So the asking price,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, was a hundred nine thousand dollars at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. And they announced at the same time that

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<v Speaker 1>the Roadster was becoming available, that the model S Sedan

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<v Speaker 1>would be available by twent ten and that same two

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<v Speaker 1>year time frame. Huh yeah, because they learned so much

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<v Speaker 1>from the first one. And in fact, we're gonna break

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<v Speaker 1>down what the roadster was all about in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but before we do that, let's take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>to thank our sponsor. Alright, So, the Tesla Roadster an

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<v Speaker 1>electric sports car, something that a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>really skeptical about. They didn't really think an electric vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>could have the performance of a sports car, right, one

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<v Speaker 1>of those other concerns about electric cars, right, Exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>was was getting the amount of power that someone who

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<v Speaker 1>likes a good zippy car would really need, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea being that you know, you know, those things have

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<v Speaker 1>terrible acceleration and even even once you accelerate top speeds,

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<v Speaker 1>what like, I don't want an electric car. This was

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<v Speaker 1>all about opening up people's eyes to what an electric

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<v Speaker 1>car could do. And it's a sports car with an

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<v Speaker 1>a c induction motor and a single speed gearbox, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about like a five speed transmission. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go into more about what that gearbox does in the second.

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<v Speaker 1>It also has a battery pack that Tesla calls the

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<v Speaker 1>Energy storage system or e s S, and a power

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<v Speaker 1>electronics module or PEM. So you don't really have an engine.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the engine is like an internal combustion engine. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where you have all the gas and everything powering pistons moving. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just an electric motor. Yep. You're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>electro magnetism really driving your vehicle here. And that single

0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.360
<v Speaker 1>speed fixed gears job is to reduce the revolutions per

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<v Speaker 1>minute or RPMs of the motor down to the right

0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.400
<v Speaker 1>RPMs for the axle. In other words, it's really converting

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<v Speaker 1>the turns of one element of the vehicle into turns

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<v Speaker 1>of another part of the vehicle so that the wheels

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<v Speaker 1>turn the proper speed. Otherwise, you know, you'd either be

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<v Speaker 1>crawling along or zipping through into the stratosphere. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want that. You want to have a nice

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<v Speaker 1>control of your vehicle. So yeah, there's no five speed

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<v Speaker 1>transmission and on the other on the flip side, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no clutch, so that's nice. Uh, you know, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>only manual in a way because I'll get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's only there's only like two speeds on this

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<v Speaker 1>thing and really just changes what the top speed and

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<v Speaker 1>acceleration are. What are those top speeds and accelerations? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you asked. It's a three hundred horsepower equivalent,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't wouldn't really say engine because it's a motor.

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<v Speaker 1>But it can go from zero to sixty miles per

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<v Speaker 1>hour or about ninety seven kilometers per hour or our

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<v Speaker 1>friends in other places besides the US in three point

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<v Speaker 1>seven seconds, so fewer than four seconds. It can go

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<v Speaker 1>zero to sixties. That's that's pretty impressive. And it's top

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<v Speaker 1>speed is around one five miles per hour or about

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred one kilometers per hour. The body of this

0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.320
<v Speaker 1>thing was a modified Lotus actually a Lotus frame that

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<v Speaker 1>was manufact actured in England and sent to Tesla for

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<v Speaker 1>final assembly, right because once again they didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing plant to do all this, Like you know, any

0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.760
<v Speaker 1>other major automotive company. They have these enormous factories where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's where you see like all the robot

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<v Speaker 1>arms coming in and zap and stuff and everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>these are handmade. Yeah, this is this is pretty impressive

0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff like you got this and Bentley where you get

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<v Speaker 1>that that handmade attention. So, this motor is able to

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<v Speaker 1>operate continuously at around a hundred twenty degrees celsius. And

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<v Speaker 1>the first roadsters were air cooled. In other words, they

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<v Speaker 1>had vents on the front of the vehicle and as

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle would move, air would be forced over the

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<v Speaker 1>various elements inside the car and that kept it cool

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<v Speaker 1>enough because, as we all know, electronics plus heat equals

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<v Speaker 1>SAD electronics. So this was supposed to be efficient enough

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<v Speaker 1>where you wouldn't need a different kind of cooling system.

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<v Speaker 1>It also means there's no oil. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>change the oil in a roadster because it just uses

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<v Speaker 1>air to cool all the elements. So you're moving parts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big big deal. Also, the motor had a

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<v Speaker 1>had rather, the battery pack had a heating element as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you were in really really cold parts to

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<v Speaker 1>fix that potential, what if it's too cold to start

0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.720
<v Speaker 1>my battery exactly, so you spark the battery. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>really it's to get the chemical reactions in the battery

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<v Speaker 1>to move, to move at the right rate to generate

0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.720
<v Speaker 1>electricity a cold battery, the cold inhibits that chemical reaction, right,

0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.800
<v Speaker 1>So the heater was really meant to make sure that

0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.320
<v Speaker 1>chemical reaction keeps happening. Um. And the motor uses a

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<v Speaker 1>prietary design to convert electricity into torque without losing too

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<v Speaker 1>much energy in the form of heat. Uh. They talk

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<v Speaker 1>about using oxygen free copper to carry high current. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla claims that the efficiency of the motor to turn

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<v Speaker 1>electricity into torque is around eighty five to nine, which

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<v Speaker 1>is insane. That is completely ridiculous. But keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>that that is the the the motor energy and not

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<v Speaker 1>the energy output of the entire car as a whole. Exactly. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to take the whole car and say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, how much of the of the potential energy

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<v Speaker 1>stored in the batteries is converted into actual energy moving

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<v Speaker 1>the car, I'm guessing the efficiency is not at eight

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<v Speaker 1>five or ninety five, because that would be bonkers. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I would say that that's pretty physically impossible, considering

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<v Speaker 1>that you have just attached a ton or so of

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<v Speaker 1>metal and etcetera to Yeah, that engine, I mean half

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<v Speaker 1>of the ton just goes to that e S S

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<v Speaker 1>that energy system that we were talking about, the storage system,

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<v Speaker 1>the battery essentially. Yeah, yeah, that way to about a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds. Have thousand pounds not not a light battery.

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<v Speaker 1>You will not be changing that on your own. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Tesla, it packs four to five times the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of energy density stores of other batteries, meaning that it

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<v Speaker 1>can hold more energy than other batteries of that particular size.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also recyclable, which is good because it will eventually

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<v Speaker 1>run out. Sure um. And it's a lithium ion design, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>which actually was a big deal. The reason why Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>went with lithium ion is because that technology is really

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<v Speaker 1>well established. Like you probably have multiple electronics that run

0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.359
<v Speaker 1>on lithium ion batteries. I've got a couple right here

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<v Speaker 1>on me so y m s. People have some in

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<v Speaker 1>their pockets right now. So that meant that because they

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<v Speaker 1>were using this well established technology that has had uh

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing processes laid out for years, it helped bring the

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<v Speaker 1>cost down of that element, which meant that it brings

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<v Speaker 1>the cost down of the overall vehicle to prevent overheating.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you've worked the battery up to a workable temperature,

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<v Speaker 1>um it had a liquid or has a liquid cooling circuit.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that's that's water and anti freeze that circulate in

0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>sealed tubes through the array of cells. Right, So while

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<v Speaker 1>the power train didn't have a liquid cooling or oil cooling,

0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the these the actual batteries did, and that was again

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<v Speaker 1>to keep them at that optimal temperature. Just like you

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, Lauren, I mean you want you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be too cold, but you don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>too hot either. So each cell in the Tesla roadster

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.320
<v Speaker 1>battery is about the size of a double A battery,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've ever seen one of those, that's about

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<v Speaker 1>the size of an individual cell. But there are a

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<v Speaker 1>few of those. Yeah, six thousand, eight hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one of those stacked up equals one E S S. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you handed me six thousand, eight hundred thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one double A batteries, I think I would tell you

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<v Speaker 1>where that thousand pounds came from. Uh So, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's certainly impressive, but the neat thing is this

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<v Speaker 1>is the energy system. This is providing all the energy

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<v Speaker 1>for the card to move forward, and like Tesla says,

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<v Speaker 1>there are no moving parts here, so it really cuts

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<v Speaker 1>down on the required maintenance you need to do. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the roadsters travel range is about two hundred forty five

0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.240
<v Speaker 1>miles according to Tesla, which is about three hundred ninety

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<v Speaker 1>four kilometers. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that every single

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<v Speaker 1>roadster on a full charge is going to go and

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<v Speaker 1>then just immediately stop like in a Warner Brothers cartoon.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, uh, some of them could go actually much further.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's that's kind of what they say because that way,

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you you hedge your bets a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit so people don't push the car further than it's

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<v Speaker 1>meant to go. Sure, sure, it's much more critical than

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<v Speaker 1>saying something about miles per gallon because it's a little

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 1>bit right when when you can't just stop at any

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<v Speaker 1>corner and getting rare battery gasoline. Right. In fact, that

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<v Speaker 1>was a big concern again, like we were saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the worry that, hey, if I get an electric car,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when the battery runs out. What happens when

0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm on a trip and the battery runs out? How

0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:44.160
<v Speaker 1>do I end up refueling? And Tesla's response was actually saying, well,

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 1>take a look at how far you drive on a

0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>typical day. Most people aren't driving so far as to

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<v Speaker 1>completely drain their tank of gas, I mean, on on

0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:56.239
<v Speaker 1>their daily lives. You know, there are exceptions. We know

0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 1>there are people out there who have to do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more driving than others. But for your average person,

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<v Speaker 1>you might drive to a job, you might do some errands,

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<v Speaker 1>you might come home, and that might be enough to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, drain a quarter of a tank or something.

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.840
<v Speaker 1>But you don't have to refuel every single day, whereas

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 1>with the Tesla Roadster you can just plug it in

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.960
<v Speaker 1>every night. So um, that was kind of the argument

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that Tesla made. They said that the battery life was

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<v Speaker 1>estimated at about seven years or one thousand miles, and

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<v Speaker 1>at that point you would need to replace it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how expensive that is. I'm sure it's quite

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<v Speaker 1>expensive to replace your battery, but it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>every seven years. The question is whether or not, I mean,

0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're the kind of person who's buying a stay

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<v Speaker 1>of the art sports car. If you're still driving that

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.919
<v Speaker 1>same sports car seven years later, you are not the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of person I thought you were, and frankly, I

0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know you anymore, or probably you can afford at

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that juncture to replace the battery. Yeah, that's also that's

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.920
<v Speaker 1>also a possibility. That's good point, good point, much much

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 1>less snarky than my point. That there are also sensors

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 1>in the battery system that will disconnect it automatically if

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the car is in a crash or if any kind

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 1>of like smoke, humidity, or water are detected inside the

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 1>battery pack, which is really pretty important because lithium ion

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 1>batteries can totally explode when they get overheated. Yeah, this

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.359
<v Speaker 1>is one of those reasons why if you've ever flown

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane and they tell you that they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to gate check luggage, that if there's anything that has

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 1>a lithium ion battery and it take it out, because

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.400
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen often, but it can happen, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where you'd rather take the precaution

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to remove it. So again, it's sort of a preemptive

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of measure. And a very important one as far

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 1>as safety is concerned. Now, next, you have the power

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Electronics Module, the p e M, which is the sort

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 1>of computer brain of the Tesla, and it controls the

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>two watts of electrical power during peak acceleration. So when

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 1>you really want to get that, uh, that effect. I

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>remember that they talk to people about, you know, trying

0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:00.640
<v Speaker 1>to convince folks, uh to to really buy into this

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:04.120
<v Speaker 1>electric sports car idea. One of the things Tesla used

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.159
<v Speaker 1>to do for people who are a little skeptical is

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.199
<v Speaker 1>they would take them for a test drive and they

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>would be sitting there at a standstill, and the driver

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>would tell the passenger, who is the person they're trying

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to impress, Uh, you know what, why don't we turn

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>on the radio and see what's on and uh, you know,

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>listen to some music. And they would start to lean

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>forward and that's when the driver would slam on the

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>acceleration and the acceleration is so great that the person

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>could not reach the radio controls because of the force

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>they were feeling from the acceleration. It was a way

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that they convinced people like, Okay, this car might be

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 1>for me, so uh, anyway that what's of power is

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 1>equivalent to the amount of power you need to light

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>two thousand incandescent bulbs or if you want to go

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know away from incandescent. You say, what

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>about those compact loorescence everyone's using these days? It could

0:24:56.119 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>like ten thousand of those yep. It also over these

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.159
<v Speaker 1>were generative breaking, So that's when you're using the brakes

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to help recapture some energy and convert it back into

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>electricity and recharge the batteries. Now obviously this is not

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>meant to recharge the battery to full, but it helps

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>keep that battery nice and freshly. It gives you that

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:20.120
<v Speaker 1>two mile range. Yeah, and it also controls the voltages

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and currents that you you have to keep in mind

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>whenever the maximum or minimum limits are coming into play.

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>That really means like, if you want more speed, you're

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>essentially saying more juice. It's kind of that. It's okay,

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>So instead of opening the throttle, if you press the yeah,

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>same same sort of things. In this case, you're like

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>more electricity please. Um. Also, when you accelerate, the p

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.959
<v Speaker 1>M P E M converts your manual command, which is

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 1>pressing down on the accelerator. What we would normally call

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 1>the gas pedal into a series of precisely timed voltages,

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>which gives the propulsion motor the commands to generate the

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>opper speed. Now now I get to charging it. That

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.719
<v Speaker 1>means that you get to use the handy dandy Electric

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Vehicle Service equipment or e v S. E allah. How

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Tesla makes all these things, these crazy acronyms that are

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>making their their technology sound even more weird and futuristic,

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it's because science. So you can't install one of these

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>on your own unless you happen to be a qualified

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>electrical technician because it's talking about some heavy duty power here.

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>It does hook into your home system home electric system.

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>So the system, like Lauren was saying earlier, it has

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of automatic cutoffs, not just if you know water, yeah,

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>exactly in case of accident or also just at home.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>So there's a smoke detector that's on the charger itself

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that will turn off any electricity going to the car

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>if it detects smoke. So that's whether it's in you know,

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 1>coming from the car itself or anything else in the environment.

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Um it also will turn off any electricity right into

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the car if there's any tension that's detected, like unusual

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.919
<v Speaker 1>tension on the cable. So, for example, if the cable

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>is on the floor of your garage and someone else

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>drives into a two car garage and drives over that cable,

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>bill shut off the electricity to the roadster. And so

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>it also will automatically shut off the flow of electricity

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>when you try to detach it from the roadster, which

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>is good. Good, so you don't have any yeah, cable

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>shooting shooting deadly electric beams everywhere. That's how electricity comes out, right,

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you know. We also mentioned that you don't have to

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>do that regular maintenance that you would on an internal

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>combustion engine vehicle, at least not the kind that we're

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>used to, like no oil changes, you don't have to

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>do filter changes, you don't have to do emission tests,

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to replace spark plugs, right right. They

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>do recommend that you still bring it in once every

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>year or about what's the yearly, likeeah, yeah, it's it's

0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>The idea is that just to make sure everything's in

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>working order. And there are of course other things that

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you would have to continue to maintain, like the tires.

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Those those don't magically become hyper resilient or something. Science. Yeah,

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>if only now. Yeah, So, going on in June two

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand eight, Tesla Motors decided to build its manufacturing plant,

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>but not in New Mexico, which is where they had

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about doing it. Yeah. Yeah, California offered up some

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome tax breaks. Yeah, so they decided that, um,

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna open up a store there. And the store

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>opens in Los Angeles. In fact, they take a very

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>interesting approach to selling cars. Tesla does instead of using

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>um dealerships like third party dealerships, they sell direct to customers.

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's going to become an interesting point in our

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>our second half, our second part rather so October two

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>thou eight, this is when Elon Musk officially becomes the

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>CEO of Tesla Motors. Uh and uh, you know, it's

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>also when things don't look so hot for the electric

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>car industry or really any distribe for any industry. Yeah,

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that the global financial crisis was in full gear. Oh

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>that was like a pun I didn't even intend to. Oh,

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of me. Okay, alright, but no, but

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of me talking about this really terrible

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>global event where a lot of people lost a whole

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of money in their homes. Um it was. It

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>was a big issue, especially for the auto industry at

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the time, and um Uh Musk had to put off

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the models delivery until the company could receive some federal

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>loan money. And in fact, Forbes would say that Musk's

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>leadership was absolutely critical, saying that you know who would

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the federal government agree to loan money too if they

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the crazy It wasn't Tony Stark. Yeah, essentially

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you needed to have a Tony Stark, someone who could

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>charm them into I mean, I don't mean to be disingenuous,

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but they were saying that Musk kind of gives off

0:29:54.360 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>this musk of leadership that people buy into, and he

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>was able to to convince the various political powers that

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>this is was an important investment and that it was

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>in fact something that would be good for the future.

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>He also did appeal to his brother Kimball, who he

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>had previously started some businesses up with before um for

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit of like much needed emergency funds.

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Towards the end of two thousand eight, there um and

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Hey did all of this during his messy public divorce

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>from Justine musk Um and also while he was working

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>through a whole lot of weird rocket issues over its SpaceX.

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Musk said at the time, at that point, every day

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>was like eating glass and staring into the abyss of death.

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>So cheerful guy. In December two thousand eight, he uh,

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>he probably wasn't so cheerful either. A Tesla at that

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>point generated thirteen point eight million dollars, which sounds really interesting,

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>like how did they do that when you know the

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>roadster was the only vehicle that they had out there

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.479
<v Speaker 1>and they weren't able to produce it in a huge amounts.

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>How did they make eight million dollars? They did it

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>by selling low emission vehicle credits to other automakers. See,

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>in California, automakers have to comply with low emission standards.

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>The same for several other states too, But California has

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>some particularly strict anti pollution laws, all right, Except the

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>thing is is that you don't actually have to take

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>part in these anti pollution measures. You can fund other

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>businesses that are taking part in anti pollution measures, and

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>in return you get these credits, these low emission credits,

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>which essentially say hey, you have a license to uh

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to ignore x amount of these restrictions if you have

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the equivalent number of credits. And so it's really to

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 1>offset vehicles that don't meet those standards, and Tesla as

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>an electric vehicle, you know, with zero emissions, they had

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>these credits that they could sell, and so they did,

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and so that was that was kind of the first

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>bit of uptick for the company financially speaking that it

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>had seen in a while. You know, it's it's they

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>started getting a little bit out of that of this

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>of death at this point. Um in January two thousand nine,

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>they would close a deal with daime Ler for Um

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>for a thousand smart battery packs, and later in the

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>year Dame Laer would buy a ten percent stake in Tesla,

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and in March two thousand nine, Tesla Motors unveiled a

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>prototype and begins to take reservations for the model S.

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>So within the first week, more than five hundred people

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>sign up, and they said that the actual production wouldn't

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>begin until late two thousand eleven. So so again it

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>really goes to show that there was a lot of

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>interest in this company for people to go so far

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>as to invest money in a product that they had

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>not seen or sat in or driven at all. It

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>did not exist yet and that wouldn't exist for another

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>two years. But they were still willing to do it.

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really says a lot. Uh. You know

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that there's so much buzz about the company at the time,

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and and even more so when in June of two

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand nine, Tesla actually one a four hundred sixty five

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>million dollar loan from the U. S Department of Energies

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>at fanst Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program um and that

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>was to help launch the Model S. But the caveat

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>here was that they couldn't get that money until they

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>owned a mass production facility. Okay, you know that the

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>whole gig of this loan was that the government really

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted alternate energy vehicles out on the road. But they

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted not like ten of them, not a hundred of them,

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>not eight hundred of them for special buyers. They wanted

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>mass production. They had been this entire time outsourcing the roadster,

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>manufacturing and assembling those cars one by one behind their

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Menlo Park, California showroom. Pay no attention to the engineers

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>behind the guntain so yeah, I mean right now, if

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>we were to stop the podcast right now and say that,

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>let's say that this is June two thousand nine, things

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>would look a little uncertain for for Tesla Motor Company.

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not entirely sure they're going to be able to

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>get that loan. They're not. They don't have that mass

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>production facility. They have a roadster that a lot of

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>people like, but it's really expensive, and they have another

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>vehicle that they've announced but no one's actually seen it yet.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna stop here, but our next episode we'll

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>pick back up and talk about what Tesla has been

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>up to since June two tho nine and the events

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>that led to the unveiling of the Model S, as

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 1>well as the announcement of other vehicles that they have

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 1>planned further down the line. So we're gonna break here,

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.080
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