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Speaker 1: This is episode forty one of Native Land Pod, where
Speaker 1: we give it to you straight, no chaser, and break
Speaker 1: down all things politics and culture. I am joined by
Speaker 1: my beautiful and lovely co hosts Angela and Andrew Gillum,
Speaker 1: and I am, of course Tiffany Cross.
Speaker 4: What's going on, guys, Andrews sound like I don't know why, trugar.
Speaker 4: I was trying to make it a little nicer.
Speaker 5: You guys, Hey, if your waist is around your neck.
Speaker 4: Anyway, thank you.
Speaker 5: You look cute. Good, you look very cute in the pocket.
Speaker 6: So I had to wear this because it's getting colder,
Speaker 6: and I didn't wear it at the DNC because it
Speaker 6: was a little too casual. And I have to look
Speaker 6: hip hop today. It's breaking news. But I'm going to
Speaker 6: be doing something for BT Hip Hop Awards.
Speaker 4: Oh nice.
Speaker 7: I didn't even know BT awards.
Speaker 4: Hip popper works.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, BT employees, I know. And I didn't
Speaker 1: know that the vm as were still a thing. And
Speaker 1: then I saw it and there was like news out
Speaker 1: of the vm A.
Speaker 6: So now she actually I was gonna say, she my
Speaker 6: aar p U out of this, like, I don't know what.
Speaker 4: You keep going? Can't do it on the wards?
Speaker 5: Bad?
Speaker 7: I didn't know. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Can we can I do something a little bit because
Speaker 1: I want to make sure, uh that we get to
Speaker 1: everybody's question. I would like to like get into the
Speaker 1: viewer questions right away to kick off the show with that.
Speaker 7: What do y'all think? Okay?
Speaker 5: I like tell the people what they're looking for though it.
Speaker 1: Was a question about like do people listen to what
Speaker 1: we say? I think we should kick it off with
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 4: So we do. Can we do that after we talk
Speaker 4: about CBC real quick?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I'm sorry, yes, okay, because the last time
Speaker 1: y'all heard from US was CBC so false alarm.
Speaker 5: Congressional Black Caucus.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Congressional Black CLOCKUS Foundations annual legislative conference, which
Speaker 1: takes place in DC every year. It's one of the
Speaker 1: premiere black for instance that happens in the country. And
Speaker 1: we had a fab time. Angela. So many people love
Speaker 1: your dress. It was very uh, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: looked very African to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was it, And of course you would put
Speaker 6: me on the spot to be able to name this designer.
Speaker 6: Her first name is Rosie. I believe it's ostline designer's
Speaker 6: last name. I'm going to fact check myself really quickly.
Speaker 6: But in the meantime, you know what else is important
Speaker 6: about that?
Speaker 1: I know I started with fashion, but that's probably not
Speaker 1: what you guys wanted to reflect.
Speaker 4: A S S O U L I N.
Speaker 6: And I was dressed by uh one of our favorites,
Speaker 6: which is all right, Fashion Library.
Speaker 4: We love alright, we do.
Speaker 6: And that's all the plug we're doing until you guys
Speaker 6: give us a deeper disturm.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 1: Now not Cliff Albright with black voters matter? All right,
Speaker 1: Fashion Library?
Speaker 4: Is this please?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know the Fashion Library.
Speaker 1: Andrew, you look Gandrew in your suit because you clearly
Speaker 1: want some attention to tell us you look you.
Speaker 5: Look good at O mushirt.
Speaker 4: He wants to change the laws.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And speaking of the collective, we had Stephanie Brown,
Speaker 6: James and Quinton James on the podcast. If you guys
Speaker 6: haven't take in yet, we are thrilled to have been
Speaker 6: joined by so many of our friends I feel like
Speaker 6: every year ALC is a big family reunion. You get
Speaker 6: to catch up with some folks you haven't seen all year,
Speaker 6: some folks who'll only come in town for that time
Speaker 6: of the year. Let me tell you what set us apart.
Speaker 6: When we were at the DNC. There were a lot
Speaker 6: of other media outlets there. There were a lot of
Speaker 6: folks taking the stage, other podcasts. We were the only
Speaker 6: and the premiere and the exclusive show right before the
Speaker 6: Phoenix Awards dinner, which I believe you guys are gonna
Speaker 6: end up making history for two reasons. One is I
Speaker 6: believe that will be Joe Biden's last public appearance in
Speaker 6: a speech format to a large audience before this election.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: I believe also that that will be one of the
Speaker 6: final moments. Well, the last time Kamala Harrison goes before
Speaker 6: the CBC Foundation as a vice president. I think the
Speaker 6: next time she comes, she will be the President of
Speaker 6: the United States of America. The CBC Foundation Phoenix to
Speaker 6: Ward's Dinner is a big, big deal in black politics,
Speaker 6: and we wanted to make sure you all got a
Speaker 6: front row seat of that experience. We spoke to everyone
Speaker 6: from Congressman Jasmin Crockett to Fannie Willis, who of course
Speaker 6: we talked quite a bit about on this podcast. She
Speaker 6: was fantastic. We talked to Congressmoman Joyce Beaty, the chairperson
Speaker 6: of the Foundation, Terry Sewell, so many folks. And I
Speaker 6: got to do that side by side with my sister
Speaker 6: and my brother and we were looking fly.
Speaker 4: It was different.
Speaker 6: We weren't in our dinim, in our well Tiveleby in
Speaker 6: green or red or orange or pink or red. She
Speaker 6: will not be in dina most days, but that day
Speaker 6: we was fly.
Speaker 1: I'm hav gonna wear my denim body top body suit
Speaker 1: that I didn't get to wear a n she says,
Speaker 1: she is going to wear an I don't have venom,
Speaker 1: I don't have denim.
Speaker 5: You can do what I did, friend, I just went
Speaker 5: on line.
Speaker 6: You know, I've gone Guys, I would like to be
Speaker 6: the stylist of the Dinim.
Speaker 4: I'm good at picking out clothes.
Speaker 1: I sent you something on Instagram for you to get
Speaker 1: and you were like get it. I'm like, girl, this
Speaker 1: is a cute offer for you. But you were talking
Speaker 1: about the Phoenix Awards dinner. I can we play the clip?
Speaker 1: We were all called a few minutes ago and Vice
Speaker 1: President Harris President elect Harris, I say she spoke at
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Wars dinner as Angela was just saying every
Speaker 1: year that the president comes and speaks uh to the
Speaker 1: dinner when it's a democratic president, obviously, I don't think
Speaker 1: Trump has ever addressed I.
Speaker 4: Don't think Trump even knows what the CBC is.
Speaker 7: He doesn't, he doesn't. Can you imagine if he walked
Speaker 7: on that stage.
Speaker 4: I don't think it would be everybody will walk out.
Speaker 4: It won't even would be for me.
Speaker 6: It'd be like Biden actually won the Lifetime Achievement Award
Speaker 6: at this dinner as well, which is.
Speaker 4: Why that Yeah, okay, let's play. Let's just let's play.
Speaker 7: You know, Andrew was an institutionalist, like.
Speaker 4: No matter who you know, Okay, which Poetus this one,
Speaker 4: but you let's.
Speaker 1: Talk about that on the other side, because I want
Speaker 1: to see this beautiful clip your Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 7: Let's roll the tape.
Speaker 5: Nick.
Speaker 4: Let me just say about Joe Biden. I have.
Speaker 6: Hello to all my divine nine brothers and sisters.
Speaker 4: And my soul on.
Speaker 6: And to all my HB brothers and sisters.
Speaker 7: I love that moment.
Speaker 5: I love It brought her into the room differently, right,
Speaker 5: like she sort of that laugh kind of She's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: they are here, they ain't here.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: They literally started skiw weedon so loud, like she was like,
Speaker 6: y'all can have a seat.
Speaker 4: They were like after this message. I mean, it was
Speaker 4: so cool.
Speaker 6: Speaking of messages, Andrew, what I'll be talking about today?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I tell you one thing. We've been on
Speaker 5: the road a bit, but while we've been going, it's
Speaker 5: been happening in Florida. I just want to bring to
Speaker 5: everybody's attention, for those who have not yet heard, how
Speaker 5: the quote state of Free Florida is doing under an
Speaker 5: authoritarian want to be dictator. More to come, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Oh you want to go, tell us what you want
Speaker 1: to talk about any We're not bad, Nope, okay. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about something that I brought up before
Speaker 1: over this summer when the a lot of GOP governors
Speaker 1: were basically saying f those kids and not trying to
Speaker 1: feed kids during the school year. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about two key pieces of policy that keep coming up
Speaker 1: on the campaign trail, and that is childcare in school lunch,
Speaker 1: and I just want to walk people through what that
Speaker 1: policy looks like and prove that the GOP does not
Speaker 1: care about children.
Speaker 5: Not ones day born.
Speaker 6: You know this, this podcast actually should be called I
Speaker 6: Believe the Children are our future question mark because on
Speaker 6: that same right, I believe on that same point that
Speaker 6: Tiff was just razy. And what you just raised about abortion, Andrew,
Speaker 6: there's a whole other issue in the Senate. Republicans can't
Speaker 6: figure out if they are pro choice, pro life, pro
Speaker 6: mess they're voting against IVF.
Speaker 4: We're going to talk about that as well as.
Speaker 6: Some shady ish that surprise or not, Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Speaker 6: had to say about our dear Madam Vice President.
Speaker 1: Kara Lugbee Sanders was the former White House Press Secretary
Speaker 1: who was terrible at that job, if I say so myself.
Speaker 1: And now she is the Republican governor of Arkansas and
Speaker 1: there was a black man running against her, and I
Speaker 1: had high hopes for it. And you know this goes
Speaker 1: to my point about the South is read until it ain't.
Speaker 1: I want somebody to unseat Sarah Huckabee Sanders whenever it is.
Speaker 4: She's the perfect example of failing upwards.
Speaker 6: She has the last name of her father, who also
Speaker 6: failed upwards and she continues to fail up.
Speaker 4: Andrew, I can't imagine how frustrate that is that he said.
Speaker 5: Well, I know it's the truth is all of us
Speaker 5: know this well, our listeners know it well, you know
Speaker 5: it well. It's if you got it well, where we
Speaker 5: I mean heck, Michelle Obama put it perfectly. When we
Speaker 5: are confronting the mountain, the mountain in our lives, we
Speaker 5: don't have an escalator to take us to the top.
Speaker 5: All right, we got to climb that thing.
Speaker 4: Escalator broke as hell. Hell, ship didn't exist for me
Speaker 4: for most of them with ankleweight. Wait. Wait the rough
Speaker 4: side of.
Speaker 9: The side.
Speaker 4: And you know.
Speaker 5: I hope you're doing a man?
Speaker 4: Amen?
Speaker 7: Amen?
Speaker 4: Wait not Andrew still breaching.
Speaker 6: Okay, so efficiently told them what I was about to say.
Speaker 1: Who's going first? But can we do the newer question
Speaker 1: now or you we want to do a Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 6: Make sure we sufficiently covered all the topics before we
Speaker 6: get cussed out.
Speaker 4: We're not recording by it confront.
Speaker 5: For you that we have not because we like to
Speaker 5: talk about lots of stuff, so well, no to come up.
Speaker 5: This is the agenda stuff. So let's get let's see.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, good question.
Speaker 7: The viewer question that we were trying to get to.
Speaker 7: Let's hear it.
Speaker 10: What's up Native Land. This is Craig Night again from
Speaker 10: the sixty Curious podcast. First, I just want to give
Speaker 10: you guys props for a job well done at the
Speaker 10: d n C. And here's my question. I was thinking
Speaker 10: about your analysis and your commentary on all things Kamala
Speaker 10: Harris as far as her campaign is concerned, and a
Speaker 10: lot of those things that you say, especially regarding like
Speaker 10: how she handles interviews and what she should say in
Speaker 10: the debate. I mean, all those things make a lot
Speaker 10: of sense to me. So being that you guys have
Speaker 10: more of a direct line to those figures in politics,
Speaker 10: with all of your experience, would it be naive of
Speaker 10: me to think that some of those things might be
Speaker 10: getting through. And that's my question, Mike. As a loyal listener,
Speaker 10: it would be really comforting to me to know that
Speaker 10: some of the things that you say on your show
Speaker 10: would actually get through to these candidates and they might
Speaker 10: actually fashion or craft their their their strategies according to
Speaker 10: some of the things that you got said. Because I
Speaker 10: think that it's very valuable.
Speaker 7: I love that question. I love it.
Speaker 1: I have thoughts on that, but please say, oh, Angela,
Speaker 1: you can tell me your thoughts.
Speaker 6: I can wait because I'm just gonna start name dropping.
Speaker 6: It's not it's not it's not gonna be negative.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well I'll answer Andrew you I will answer.
Speaker 6: People get to see it, though, because they're like, leave
Speaker 6: and touch, andrewes and he frong, he leave, he rabbit,
Speaker 6: he bounced, he kangaroo, he hops, he be swaying all
Speaker 6: the time.
Speaker 4: Air, off air camera, off camera on.
Speaker 7: Andrew.
Speaker 5: One of his questions from.
Speaker 4: Let him know what it really was, because you ain't.
Speaker 6: What you're not about to do is act like we'd
Speaker 6: be going, He'll be shooting.
Speaker 4: Shoot.
Speaker 1: That is man's question. I want to say a couple
Speaker 1: of things. One, I appreciate the question because I would
Speaker 1: say yes, there are certainly people I can say definitively yes,
Speaker 1: there are certain people in the administration who listen to
Speaker 1: this podcast on the campaign, who listened to this podcast routinely,
Speaker 1: the devil trying to keep me quiet.
Speaker 5: Not today saying today, drink your water.
Speaker 1: Yes, probably, I just got this flight my throat dry.
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to say, this could be
Speaker 1: This could be why they try to keep me quiet
Speaker 1: because the other thing I want to say, there is
Speaker 1: a misunderstanding. I'll say, a misconception that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are watching cable certain cable news shows in the morning.
Speaker 1: And that is why some people have disclaimed the fame
Speaker 1: because you think, oh, this big branded platform and this
Speaker 1: cable news platform, they must be getting millions of viewers
Speaker 1: every day, and.
Speaker 7: That is not true.
Speaker 1: Some of these shows are getting five hundred thousand viewers,
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand viewers, which is not a lot cable news.
Speaker 1: You know, the primetime shows are in the millions, right,
Speaker 1: but they're claimed to fame as Oh, because the administration
Speaker 1: listens to us, they tune in well as the administration changes,
Speaker 1: As demographics of the country and the administration changes, they're
Speaker 1: going to start listening to other people. So I would
Speaker 1: say for a lot of folks who you know, spend
Speaker 1: spend resources in these shows, they're going to have to
Speaker 1: rethink their entire platforms. And I look forward to that
Speaker 1: day coming and a lot of people express viewpoints that
Speaker 1: sometimes run contrary to the rising majority of this country.
Speaker 1: So I look for when that space is disrupted. Lastly,
Speaker 1: I'll close with this. I just want to be clear
Speaker 1: that the three of us do very different things, and
Speaker 1: so I have so much respect for what Andrew and
Speaker 1: Angela do. You know, like Andrew was a policy maker,
Speaker 1: you know, as an elected official, Angela worked in policy.
Speaker 1: So there are times where Angela has like great advice
Speaker 1: for the campaign, great campaign strategy, great policy points. As
Speaker 1: a journalist, I'm not really here to say, here's the
Speaker 1: policy that the administration should should do, but I do
Speaker 1: want to make sure that you our audience understands what
Speaker 1: that policy is and how it impacts you, what the
Speaker 1: GOP is pushing and how it might impact you. So
Speaker 1: I am not necessarily here to say, hey, Vice President Harris,
Speaker 1: here's how you should perform in the debate. But I
Speaker 1: do like to weigh in on what my brother and
Speaker 1: my sister are saying, like, oh, that is a good idea.
Speaker 1: I like it, but that's just not my skills. That
Speaker 1: if I happen to say something that that resonates, great,
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not necessarily my agenda. But I
Speaker 1: do appreciate sharing the platform with folks who are better
Speaker 1: at that kind of thing than I am.
Speaker 6: I just want to fact check tip really quick here. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so actually, yeah, canyons, that is what y'all should do. No,
Speaker 6: but but but I believe that that's not what you're
Speaker 6: trying to do now. But also, Tiff has worked on
Speaker 6: a political campaign and advised the candidate and prepped him
Speaker 6: for a debate next month.
Speaker 7: Who ran from ayor Baltimore?
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you for helping the fact check yourself as well.
Speaker 6: She has worked in policy as well. She worked for
Speaker 6: any A as well.
Speaker 1: Can I just say what I did? I did outreach
Speaker 1: and community of color. I want to advocate someone for debating.
Speaker 6: Also, are a great political strategist, and she also has
Speaker 6: brilliant ideas in multiple fields, not just in media.
Speaker 4: So now that that fact check was.
Speaker 1: Fishing for compliments, and I got it, and it works
Speaker 1: so well.
Speaker 6: And honestly, these weren't even compliments. It's just like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna let you lie to me today. To
Speaker 6: the listeners, I took it as a compliment. Yes, okay,
Speaker 6: compliments this we love you do we get hurts. I
Speaker 6: wonder when they show up, you think so, no, okay,
Speaker 6: but they just know that the love is through the screen. However,
Speaker 6: what I want to say here is this I do.
Speaker 6: And I want to clarify this. From the very beginning,
Speaker 6: people went in on us at the very beginning like
Speaker 6: we were going to become.
Speaker 4: I don't know who they were, but like from the.
Speaker 5: Beginning were the grievance people.
Speaker 4: Oh we were, Okay, I didn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't hear that particular terminology, and maybe I did
Speaker 6: and I forgot.
Speaker 4: Y'all know how my memory set up. It ain't good.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing.
Speaker 6: What was interesting to me is there were a lot
Speaker 6: of folks who are like, you just mad as you
Speaker 6: never even.
Speaker 4: Been to the White House.
Speaker 7: That's dumb.
Speaker 4: You just mad as You've never been invited to the
Speaker 4: White House.
Speaker 6: Uh, you just mad as you never talked to her?
Speaker 6: Like off, this is somebody who literally called us to
Speaker 6: say congratulations when we launched a podcast talking about Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6: And so I'm just like, yeah, that's not really it.
Speaker 6: So what we do have are not just a direct
Speaker 6: line to her, but also to the team around President Biden,
Speaker 6: also to the team around MVP Harris. We have direct
Speaker 6: lines on the political side, the policy front, the com side,
Speaker 6: and we talk to these folks regularly. And if we're
Speaker 6: as for advice we offer it. We have offered advice.
Speaker 6: We've offered advice about doing interviews, We've offered advice about
Speaker 6: campaign tactics, We've offered advice at nauseum. I am happy,
Speaker 6: y'all because I'm starting to see some of the things
Speaker 6: that we've suggested on this show and off the show implemented.
Speaker 4: I think it's great she is going to be.
Speaker 6: Doing shows with people who are not necessarily friendly to
Speaker 6: her campaign. I think that's great. That is what she
Speaker 6: needs to grow her base. This is a place where
Speaker 6: tif Andrew and I fight often. She needs to grow
Speaker 6: our base, and I think that she's got the opportunity
Speaker 6: to do that. So that's my short answer, because I
Speaker 6: had to share my time with fact check and tiff
Speaker 6: I can't believe a resident journalist tried to get on
Speaker 6: here and tell a story actually Tiffany in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 5: But the other thing is is that you can answer
Speaker 5: this Craig for yourself, which is you do your own potting.
Speaker 5: You influence people. I have to imagine that in the
Speaker 5: stream of thought and conversation, that may be some things
Speaker 5: that you hear us banter back and forth about, or
Speaker 5: debate about may have shaped some of your own thinking.
Speaker 5: So I mean, I think the biggest and highest recommender
Speaker 5: for the show is the fact that if you're on
Speaker 5: the listening side of this, just know that you're in
Speaker 5: good company with people who have abilities to make change
Speaker 5: and shifts at every level of policy and government. But
Speaker 5: also you are in company with people who are just
Speaker 5: curious about what they may not know and spend a
Speaker 5: lot of time with from day to day, week to week,
Speaker 5: and this gets to be their little short dosage of it,
Speaker 5: you know, weekend and we out, we hope, but we
Speaker 5: also want to recruit and attract more people, so continue
Speaker 5: to spread the word. Let folks know what this is
Speaker 5: and what a special experience it is. I know it's
Speaker 5: specially for the three of us. I know it because
Speaker 5: I feel it and we communicate about it. But it's
Speaker 5: made that much, you know, much greater when we're in
Speaker 5: airports and at restaurants and at conventions and y'all come
Speaker 5: up like we didn't been found, you know, forever, and
Speaker 5: we haven't personally met up because the environment is one
Speaker 5: of family. We are family. So thanks for the question, man,
Speaker 5: and good luck on the poden.
Speaker 7: Sometimes people don't even say hi. They just shout out
Speaker 7: welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 6: Know what, and it ain't gonna be no home if
Speaker 6: we actually don't take this break. Hopefully on the other
Speaker 6: side of that test, we can get into why you
Speaker 6: said the Republicans is talking about ft and key.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, love it okay.
Speaker 11: One of the things that we can do is make
Speaker 11: it easier for family models to choose, or for families
Speaker 11: to choose whatever model they want.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 11: So, one of the ways that you might be able
Speaker 11: to relieve a little bit of pressure on people who
Speaker 11: are paying so much for daycare is make it so
Speaker 11: that that you know, maybe like grandma and grandpa wants
Speaker 11: to help out a little bit more, or maybe there's
Speaker 11: an ant or uncle that wants to help out a
Speaker 11: little bit more. If that happens, you relieve some of
Speaker 11: the pressure on all the resources that we're spending the daycare.
Speaker 11: Now you talk about just daycare, let's say you don't
Speaker 11: have somebody who can provide that extra set of hands.
Speaker 11: What we've got to do is actually empower people to
Speaker 11: get trained in the skills that they need for the.
Speaker 5: Twenty first century.
Speaker 11: We've got a lot of people who love kids, who
Speaker 11: would love to take care of kids, but they can't
Speaker 11: either because they don't have access to the education that
Speaker 11: they need, or maybe more importantly, because the state government
Speaker 11: says you're not allowed to take care of children unless
Speaker 11: you have some ridiculous certification that has nothing to do
Speaker 11: nothing to do with taking care of kids. So empower
Speaker 11: people to get the skills they need. Don't force every
Speaker 11: early childcare specialist to go and get a six year
Speaker 11: college degree where they've got a whole lot of debt,
Speaker 11: and Americans are much poor because they're paying out the
Speaker 11: wazoo for daycare. Empower working families, Empower people who want
Speaker 11: to do these things for a living, and that's what
Speaker 11: we've got to do.
Speaker 5: So one, we don't care for days, we care for children.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Two, this man's talking about six years of degrees. I
Speaker 5: don't know where that exists, but it probably wasn't evident
Speaker 5: for him. But you do realize that brain development, over
Speaker 5: the course of human life, ninety percent of it is
Speaker 5: developed between the ages of zero and five. Zero and five,
Speaker 5: our children are running. The word gap of thirty thousand
Speaker 5: words which exist at kindergarten exists because of the kids
Speaker 5: who are I guess going with you talking about today
Speaker 5: care where they care for the days over the children,
Speaker 5: versus those who go to childcare centers and early learning
Speaker 5: development centers where they are learning being taught frankly social
Speaker 5: emotional skills that will them not to for instance. I
Speaker 5: don't know do any of the issue you do from
Speaker 5: them in day out, but I know you probably had
Speaker 5: a different aim on that tip. I just everything he
Speaker 5: said triggered me as a father of three children who
Speaker 5: was highly selective about where my kids went during the
Speaker 5: day in that early period. But this is why we
Speaker 5: can't have good things because people like him are sitting
Speaker 5: in the US Senate and wants to be the US
Speaker 5: Vice president probably president, who doesn't understand the critical years
Speaker 5: of early learning and child development.
Speaker 1: Well, let me just talk through the policy, because that's
Speaker 1: a good point that you made as a father, and
Speaker 1: we all know because angel neither Angela and I have kids,
Speaker 1: so we have no right to vote, or no investment
Speaker 1: in the country or no right.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's right, you got right exactly.
Speaker 1: But I think it's clear you know that jd Vance
Speaker 1: is a jackass and a dumb ass. But I want
Speaker 1: to point out what he said. This just doesn't make sense,
Speaker 1: and this is a huge issue on the campaign troll
Speaker 1: and there's a good reason why because nearly twenty three
Speaker 1: million children under the age of five to Andrew's just point,
Speaker 1: we're in their development of years, live in households where
Speaker 1: both parents work. So seventy one percent of households which
Speaker 1: both parents work, more than half of all children, particularly
Speaker 1: those of low and middle income. This is predominantly Latino
Speaker 1: and Black children live in a childcare desert, and that's
Speaker 1: defined as an area where there are too few licensed
Speaker 1: slots for the number of children who need care. So
Speaker 1: jd Vance's solution is to first of all, presume that
Speaker 1: there is a grandparent who can help out, or presume
Speaker 1: that it's a grandparent who the grandparent might actually be
Speaker 1: raising the kid, so there is literally nobody else, and
Speaker 1: then if you can't do that to lower the standard
Speaker 1: of childcare. The other issue is the crunch got worse
Speaker 1: last fall as twenty four billion dollars in pandemic era
Speaker 1: funding for childcare expired. This was another GOP move. Foldcare
Speaker 1: is a sixty billion dollar industry, and so the annual
Speaker 1: cost of caring for a single child, depending on the
Speaker 1: type the provider type the age in the county. It
Speaker 1: can require up to twenty percent of a family's income,
Speaker 1: which is obviously a huge problem.
Speaker 7: And so when you.
Speaker 1: Talk about this party that claims to care for children,
Speaker 1: I have to say they do not care for children.
Speaker 1: Not only do they not care for child care, they
Speaker 1: also do not care if these children eat. I want
Speaker 1: to play a SoundBite from a state senator out of Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and this is relevant because of course this is Vice
Speaker 1: President elect Walls's negative woods.
Speaker 7: Take a listen, mister president.
Speaker 2: I have yet to meet a person in Minnesota that
Speaker 2: is hungry yet today. I have yet to meet a
Speaker 2: person in Minnesota that says they don't have access to
Speaker 2: enough food t eat. Now I should say that hunger
Speaker 2: is a relative term, mister President. You know, I had
Speaker 2: a Cereal bar for breakfast. I guess I'm hungry. Now.
Speaker 2: That to some might be the Maybe that's the definition
Speaker 2: of the bill. I don't know. I didn't see a
Speaker 2: definition of hunger in the bill, mister president, but I
Speaker 2: think most reasonable people suggest hunger means you don't have
Speaker 2: enough to eat in order to provide for metabolism and growth.
Speaker 5: All right, just play stupid on TV.
Speaker 1: No, these are heartless people. So again I think it's
Speaker 1: important to understand the numbers here. One, you cannot learn
Speaker 1: if you're a child and you're hungry. So there are
Speaker 1: teachers who keep apples on their desks bananas just because
Speaker 1: if a child comes in this classroom, you need sustenance
Speaker 1: in order to learn. In twenty twenty two, over thirty
Speaker 1: million students, that's over sixty percent of all public school
Speaker 1: students received a free year reduced lunch. When I was
Speaker 1: in school, I received a free year reduced lunch. The
Speaker 1: branch of government that handles this is the Department of Agriculture.
Speaker 1: The USDA administers the school lunch and nearly one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand public and nonprofit private schools participate in the program.
Speaker 1: Children living in poverty, so that includes not only children
Speaker 1: living in poverty, but foster care students, migrant educational programs
Speaker 1: they participate. The percentage of students receiving free or reduced
Speaker 1: lunch is often use how to measure policy around poverty
Speaker 1: in this country. How many families are actually living in poverty? Now,
Speaker 1: I want to say what poverty looks like, because that's
Speaker 1: a really important piece. Poverty is defined as of January
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. The threshold is twenty nine thousand, nine
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty dollars a year. You can be denied
Speaker 1: a school lunch if you make fifty cents more than that.
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter. It's a hard cutoff.
Speaker 1: The individual poverty threshold is fourteen thousand, eight hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety one dollars. So you imagine if, first of all,
Speaker 1: what you can and cannot do with that money. If
Speaker 1: you are feeding a family afore making fifty thousand, make
Speaker 1: it sixty thousand twice, that you are having a hard
Speaker 1: time at the grocery store. The Census Bureau estimated in
Speaker 1: the latest census that nearly twelve percent, that's thirty eight
Speaker 1: million people lived at or below the poverty line. The
Speaker 1: higher percentages of those in poverty Latino, Black American, Indian,
Speaker 1: Alaskan Native Pacific Islander students. These are the students who
Speaker 1: disproportionately attended high poverty schools, who attended low poverty schools
Speaker 1: White students. So my point is, they don't care about you.
Speaker 1: They do not care about you in the womb, they
Speaker 1: do not care about you here on earth. So every
Speaker 1: time the news media plays these sound bites. These ridiculous
Speaker 1: soundbites from JD Vance. You heard Donald Trump's pumsleys stutter
Speaker 1: through a response on childcare that was nonsensical. I would
Speaker 1: love for them to follow up with the statistics and
Speaker 1: the data and who exactly is impacted by these policies.
Speaker 1: Every time they talk about being what they call pro life,
Speaker 1: which is really anti choice. Would love for them to
Speaker 1: talk specifically about the policy and how it impacts people.
Speaker 1: They do not care about children, They do not care
Speaker 1: about life.
Speaker 5: And by the way, they don't care about white poor
Speaker 5: children either, which are the majority of families who are
Speaker 5: receiving help from the government. They are care less, which means,
Speaker 5: you know, the saying I couldn't care less, That dude
Speaker 5: right there, he couldn't care less about what poverty looks like.
Speaker 5: He cannot conceptualize the fact that he said, I had
Speaker 5: a breakfast bar and I'm hungry, and no way correlates
Speaker 5: to the child whose last decent meal was Friday afternoon
Speaker 5: at school and won't have another one until breakfast on
Speaker 5: Monday morning when he gets back to school. That's what
Speaker 5: poverty in hunger looks like. And poor families all around
Speaker 5: the country, white black, brown and everything in the middle
Speaker 5: between in betwixt all right, So I and this is
Speaker 5: a policymaker, as is jd. Vance, And the best they
Speaker 5: can come up with on public policy for how it
Speaker 5: is that we one raise and educate our children is
Speaker 5: to lower the standards of educating them rather than I
Speaker 5: don't know, scholarship people into early childhood education learning degree programs,
Speaker 5: which are not six years, by the way, in many
Speaker 5: cases they're not any years. There's certifications for a lot
Speaker 5: of people, by the way, learn something. Schollege degrees are
Speaker 5: not required and nowhere near the majority of early learning centers.
Speaker 5: But what is required is care, love, tenderness, some skills
Speaker 5: so that you can impart upon kids so that they're
Speaker 5: ready for education. I mean, it's troubling to have to
Speaker 5: talk about this tip because you and I both have
Speaker 5: lived experiences that I think be goes really really close
Speaker 5: for comfort, and that's probably why I feel very pricked
Speaker 5: by this whole thing. It was my first concept of
Speaker 5: learning how poor I really was because the classes I
Speaker 5: was in it was with all white students and accelerated programming.
Speaker 5: But then I went to lunch and they type for
Speaker 5: it off to go sit under the tree. And I
Speaker 5: got in the lunch line and I looked around, and
Speaker 5: I saw that everybody in the lunch line was like me,
Speaker 5: looked like me. That was my introduction. And why the
Speaker 5: hell are we penalizing children for choices that they didn't
Speaker 5: get to make. They they didn't ask to be born
Speaker 5: into the families that they're in. They didn't ask for
Speaker 5: their parents to be paid much less than what they're worth, right,
Speaker 5: they didn't ask for any of that, and they didn't
Speaker 5: ask to be hungry.
Speaker 1: And some municipalities Andrew, they're actually these students are collecting debt.
Speaker 1: So they're literally getting a debt from the school system.
Speaker 1: They're being threatened that they can't graduate, that they can't
Speaker 1: get their grades because they owe a percentage of what
Speaker 1: they've been eating at lunch.
Speaker 5: An eight year old, can you get a meal?
Speaker 1: And then there can be little human interest stories on
Speaker 1: local news like, oh, this fourth grader raised seven thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to pay off the debt for her lunch room classmates,
Speaker 1: and we celebrate that, and it's like that is actually
Speaker 1: horrific that a child is doing more for her fellow
Speaker 1: students than this grown jackass. Jd Vance who was making
Speaker 1: these ridiculous policy recommended and that state senator who is heartless.
Speaker 1: Don't talk to me about being quote unquote pro life.
Speaker 1: You are not pro life. You don't give a damn
Speaker 1: about children. You give a damn about policy and control.
Speaker 1: And for everybody who votes for this ticket, shame on you.
Speaker 1: For every person who leaves comments and is out there
Speaker 1: talking about Trump's for the people and I'm going for
Speaker 1: Trump and their pro life and blah blah blah, all
Speaker 1: the awful things you all say. You ought to be
Speaker 1: embarrassed and shamed. We are pulling the hood off pun
Speaker 1: intended on these types of policies and how it impacts
Speaker 1: our communities no more.
Speaker 6: I would like to jump in here, please, especially because
Speaker 6: what we've spent some time talking about is the types
Speaker 6: of punishment that ensues after the child is born.
Speaker 4: One of the things.
Speaker 6: That they have argued that they are pushing is to
Speaker 6: protect the fetus more than anything else. And Kamala Harris
Speaker 6: had something to say on this. This add is called monster.
Speaker 6: Let's roll that.
Speaker 9: I've never slept a full night my high life. I
Speaker 9: was five years old when my stepfather abused me for
Speaker 9: the first time.
Speaker 12: I just felt like I was alone on a planet
Speaker 12: with a monster.
Speaker 9: I was twelve when he impregnated me. I just remember thinking,
Speaker 9: I have to get out of my skin.
Speaker 4: I can't be me right now, like this can't be it.
Speaker 12: I didn't know what to do. I was a child.
Speaker 12: I didn't know what it meant to be pregnant at all.
Speaker 12: But I had options. Because Donald Trump overturned Roe v.
Speaker 9: Wade, girls and women all over the country have lost
Speaker 9: the right to choose.
Speaker 5: Even for rape or incest.
Speaker 9: Donald Trump did this, He took away our freedom.
Speaker 6: I'm Kamala Harris, and I approved this message.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 6: I wanted to play that because I think too often
Speaker 6: in this reproductive justice debate, we have these conversations without
Speaker 6: any real context, without the anecdotes that matter. We talk
Speaker 6: about rape and incest, and most times progressive politicians are
Speaker 6: raising them on the floor, you know, in the House
Speaker 6: and Senate, in their in their states and their city
Speaker 6: council meetings on the House floor and the Senate in Congress,
Speaker 6: and I think it needs to be we need to
Speaker 6: put a face on it. So when you think about
Speaker 6: who they force to have children, and then they punish
Speaker 6: them once they arrive, and then the folks who have
Speaker 6: struggles with fertility, they want to punish more So, just yesterday,
Speaker 6: Senator Tammy Duckworth that introduced in June the Right to
Speaker 6: IVF Act IVF IS then Vitro Fertilization Act, so the
Speaker 6: Rights in Vitro Fertilization Act. And there were only two
Speaker 6: Republican Senators who voted in favor of this bill. Nine
Speaker 6: Republican Senate who are up for election this year, John Basso,
Speaker 6: Marshall Blackburn, Kevin Kramer.
Speaker 4: I'm naming these names.
Speaker 6: Ted Cruz, deb Fisher, Josh Holly, Pete, Ricketts, Rick Scott,
Speaker 6: and Roger Wicker all voted against. Jd Vance was too
Speaker 6: booked and busy trying to find family daycare or childcare
Speaker 6: that he didn't show up to vote. And I think
Speaker 6: that all of that is important, especially when we contextualize
Speaker 6: it with the fact that we're gonna force you, young
Speaker 6: twelve year old to have this child. Person who can't
Speaker 6: afford to have children. We're gonna penalize you for having
Speaker 6: the child that you can't afford, and we're not gonna
Speaker 6: give you any support in ensuring that you can raise
Speaker 6: this child that we.
Speaker 4: Forced you to have.
Speaker 6: And then don't have fertility problems, because if you have
Speaker 6: fertility problems, we're not gonna give you any medical care
Speaker 6: or attention for that. And then on top of that,
Speaker 6: when or if you can't have children, or God forbid,
Speaker 6: you choose not to have children, we gonna drag you
Speaker 6: for filth at a campaign rally, Let's roll this clip
Speaker 6: from Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
Speaker 13: And walk into a room like this where people cheer
Speaker 13: when you step onto the stage, and you might think
Speaker 13: for a second that you're kind of special. Then you
Speaker 13: go home and your kids remind you very quickly you're
Speaker 13: actually not.
Speaker 7: That big of a deal. So my kids keep me humble.
Speaker 13: Unfortunately, Kamala Harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble.
Speaker 7: Wow, I want to say some bad words.
Speaker 6: I really do, Tiff, And I think it's crazy because
Speaker 6: when I watched that the first time, I wasn't emotional,
Speaker 6: just angry now, like knowing my own IVF journey and
Speaker 6: what I've been through and to be childless and it's
Speaker 6: not by choice, it's just mean.
Speaker 4: It's just it's really mean. And I just wish that.
Speaker 6: When they go through this journey of what it means
Speaker 6: to birth people you know in this country how much
Speaker 6: of a struggle it is, how much of a blind
Speaker 6: eye they turn to black maternal health or maternal health
Speaker 6: period with the blind eye they turned to the kids.
Speaker 6: Tipulated out all the data, Andrew you laid out the data,
Speaker 6: the personal experience you and Tip's own connection as children
Speaker 6: to this issue. We have got to have a more holistic,
Speaker 6: nonpartisan approach to policy making for children and people who
Speaker 6: desire to have children. And you should not shame people
Speaker 6: who did not, who chose not, or who cannot have kids.
Speaker 6: That should not be the pathway. So I wanted to
Speaker 6: double down in all of that and make sure we
Speaker 6: have a holistic perspective on what that is like in
Speaker 6: this country and how they're using it as a campaign
Speaker 6: talking point to jab this woman who has literally sacrificed
Speaker 6: her life for this country at every level of state
Speaker 6: government and federal government.
Speaker 1: And speaking of sacrificing her life, I just want to
Speaker 1: point out that for Senator Tammy Duckwerts, he's a Democratic
Speaker 1: senator from Illinois, replaced Senator Barack Obama in the Senate.
Speaker 1: This is personal for her. She served this country, lost
Speaker 1: her limbs, so she's in a wheelchair, and that was
Speaker 1: the only way that she could conceive children with her
Speaker 1: husband is through IVF. If you ask some of these
Speaker 1: Republican Sanders what is IVF? Can you talk us through
Speaker 1: that they cannot do it? Then they've been reporters to
Speaker 1: ask them, and they literally have no idea that halfway.
Speaker 1: Tommy Tuberville, he was another person who could. He didn't
Speaker 1: even know what it was. I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: rich that Sarah Huckabe Sanders was in Flint, Michigan giving
Speaker 1: this talk, these insults where there are children still without
Speaker 1: clean drinking water. Where the fuck was your concern for
Speaker 1: those kids?
Speaker 7: Then?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you guys. I'm just so disgusted by these people.
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of the media trying to We don't
Speaker 1: want to offend them, so let's give them airtime, and
Speaker 1: let's be careful how we make them feel. I don't
Speaker 1: give a shit how these people feel like. I want
Speaker 1: to say something to their face. I want to look
Speaker 1: at them in their face and tell them how awful
Speaker 1: they are, how subhuman they are, how they don't give
Speaker 1: a damn about kids, and I want them to know
Speaker 1: somebody sees you. The news media might play nice, but
Speaker 1: we see you, we know exactly who you are.
Speaker 5: And I'm the subtext of that stasium.
Speaker 1: Precisely, and the subtext of that I think it's, you know,
Speaker 1: brave of Angela to share her journey. But the subtext
Speaker 1: of that comment was this little black girl need to
Speaker 1: be humble when she walking around our white country. And
Speaker 1: we hear that shit too. And I hope I get
Speaker 1: the opportunity to share a stage or a space with
Speaker 1: Sarah Huggbee Sanders, because I would love to look her
Speaker 1: in her face and dare her to match me on
Speaker 1: her best day. Intellectually, she will fall short every time
Speaker 1: she give August.
Speaker 5: Teenthry was screaming in that once you get past, as
Speaker 5: Angela has already pointed out, just the mean you know,
Speaker 5: you know how you see some fights and then they
Speaker 5: just go to and you're like what that was just mean,
Speaker 5: that's not necessary, it's it's but guess what, As the
Speaker 5: book once said, cruelty is the point with these people,
Speaker 5: right as the point. There is no other point to
Speaker 5: it other than cruelty.
Speaker 6: And like she also by by intention did not pronounce
Speaker 6: her name right again, exactly, I.
Speaker 5: Don't even they're so below they're so below and I
Speaker 5: just I hate that in the state of Arkansas, where
Speaker 5: we are well represented as part of the population in
Speaker 5: that state, that that's who they have to look to
Speaker 5: as their.
Speaker 1: Damn governor Florida. Right, Yes, I want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: We got to take a quick break. But on the
Speaker 1: other side, I want to talk about that, and can
Speaker 1: we just talk really quick when we come back about
Speaker 1: this this quote unquote assassination attempt that they're talking about that.
Speaker 5: Didn't have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, maybe that might be a mini pod.
Speaker 1: But on the other side of this break, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into it.
Speaker 5: Welcome back, y'all. We are mad. We were in the
Speaker 5: break and we're just talking about. Everybody's feeling very heated.
Speaker 5: And the reason why is because this is a but
Speaker 5: a lot of us, this is our real lives. How
Speaker 5: about that this is we like, this is our life's journey.
Speaker 5: My wife has been open about this, but for miscarriages,
Speaker 5: four miscarriages, every time anticipating this is gonna be the
Speaker 5: one that will work up until the point where you
Speaker 5: get to the point where I don't want to be
Speaker 5: pregnant anym I don't want to hurt pregnant. I don't
Speaker 5: just dis miss that part because this hurts too much. Right, So,
Speaker 5: this is our lives that they are out here being
Speaker 5: jocular about. They can make jokes about, come up with
Speaker 5: puns about miss us on the policy about because they're
Speaker 5: not really trying to solve real problems. And and Florida,
Speaker 5: Ronda Santis is the governor down here, y'all. I didn't
Speaker 5: choose them, but has taken this women's reproductive rights, you know,
Speaker 5: effort to hold new level. So already he and the
Speaker 5: Republican legislature have banned abortions in this state after six weeks.
Speaker 5: Shall I also say, I e. Most women don't know
Speaker 5: they're pregnant at six weeks unless you are intentionally anticipating
Speaker 5: and therefore you're checking the clock. But this is before
Speaker 5: six weeks, is before many women even know that they
Speaker 5: are pregnant, and has made it illegal in the state
Speaker 5: of Florida to pursue an abortion after set point. There
Speaker 5: is a constitutional amendment, a citizen's amendment that is being
Speaker 5: pushed by the smart people, well thinking people, actual people
Speaker 5: who live in the state and care about what happens
Speaker 5: here in Florida, who are pushing obviously to demolish this
Speaker 5: six week abortion ban and re establish basically row as
Speaker 5: part of the law of the land here in the
Speaker 5: state of Florida via the Florida Constitution. So the governor, well,
Speaker 5: I don't need to summarize. Let's hear the governor's thoughts
Speaker 5: about what this is.
Speaker 3: And let me just say this about Amendment four, because yes,
Speaker 3: you have had fraudulent stuff with the signatures. I think
Speaker 3: that's been verified to what extent we'll see. But the
Speaker 3: whole thing is built on fraud. If you read that amendment,
Speaker 3: they don't define any of the terms that are in
Speaker 3: the amendment. Not one definition is written into that amendment.
Speaker 3: But the reality is this whole thing is not what
Speaker 3: it seems. This is all built on deception, and they're
Speaker 3: running commercials that are just totally lie saying there's no exception,
Speaker 3: saying there's somehow just normal health care. First of all,
Speaker 3: if doctor says they can't provide health care, they're committing
Speaker 3: malpractice because there's nothing in Florida law that would say that.
Speaker 3: So you can't go and just try to have this
Speaker 3: whole thing be a big deception.
Speaker 5: His whole governorship is based on a big deception. And
Speaker 5: by the way, y'all, the terms that he wants to
Speaker 5: be defined are like trimester that people don't know when
Speaker 5: they go into the ballot box that this is what that.
Speaker 5: We aren't fools. They may have been foolish in electing
Speaker 5: you Randa Scantists, but we're not fools. In the state
Speaker 5: of Florida, what this all knowing, all encompassing governor has
Speaker 5: done is he has decided to go after to put
Speaker 5: the state police, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, on
Speaker 5: duty to go and visit the households of people who
Speaker 5: have signed this amendment signatures that were accepted as having
Speaker 5: been official, in verifiable signatures. He is sending law enforcement
Speaker 5: to their doorsteps to ask them if they signed this amendment,
Speaker 5: was there some fraud possibly going on. He showed up
Speaker 5: at one Floridian's house and was met with a relative,
Speaker 5: then tells that relative that they're looking for this other
Speaker 5: relative who might be being defrauded because his name appeared
Speaker 5: on a ballot initiative to repeal the six week abortion
Speaker 5: band in the state of Florida. That relative then gets
Speaker 5: the real relative on the phone that the person the
Speaker 5: man is actually looking for and that person then confirms, yeah,
Speaker 5: I was at a grocery store, I was at the
Speaker 5: parking lot, and not yeah I signed it, that's me.
Speaker 5: But what would have happened had they shown up at
Speaker 5: a household where this was not a place a supportive
Speaker 5: environment for this young man to have gone and signed
Speaker 5: a petition to say, X, Y, and Z. If your
Speaker 5: law enforcement, why wouldn't you be speaking to the person directly?
Speaker 5: Why are you spreading a business across and you have
Speaker 5: no idea what penalties could then ensue as a result
Speaker 5: of what it is you are doing, y'all. Let me
Speaker 5: make this plane. The supervisor of elections of the sixty
Speaker 5: seven counties in Florida are the ones who verify whether
Speaker 5: or not a signature is legit or not. At that stage,
Speaker 5: they then make a decision comparing that person's signature to
Speaker 5: the voter rolls to ensure that they are the same.
Speaker 5: If there's a question about whether they are the same
Speaker 5: or not, that petition is rejected. Doesn't even go to
Speaker 5: the state. So what they did is they took the
Speaker 5: petitions that came to the state, reached out to a
Speaker 5: couple of counties. May I add almost all of them
Speaker 5: Democratic counties and said send us thirty six thousand petitions
Speaker 5: that you think might be fraudulent, and that way we
Speaker 5: can invent they're investigating legitimized, validated signatures. The governor of
Speaker 5: the state of Florida says that the amendment is not real.
Speaker 5: People can can, can, can can be healthy and have
Speaker 5: healthy pregnancies. This is that and the third, I mean
Speaker 5: just bull Talk to Candy Miller in Georgia, the mother
Speaker 5: of three who had health conditions significant enough in her life.
Speaker 5: Thank you to the doctors who said, if you carry
Speaker 5: this pregnancy it could be so risky that you could
Speaker 5: be losing your life. What does she do? She decides
Speaker 5: not to go to future doctor's visits. She orders pills
Speaker 5: off the internet. She takes those pills, and as a
Speaker 5: result of not having flushed the complete pregnancy out contracted
Speaker 5: sepsis hospitalized and died. And a direct result of the
Speaker 5: legislation that this man's pushing and that Republicans are pushing
Speaker 5: all over the country, people are losing their LIVESNS woman
Speaker 5: is caring for three children, she is in heart, she'sless,
Speaker 5: she's not running away from anything. She's preserving her life
Speaker 5: so she can be there to raise her three goddamn kids.
Speaker 1: It's Crystal. I just want to say, it's Crystal Galloway,
Speaker 1: Crystal Galloy.
Speaker 7: I'm sure that's okay. I knew, I know what. I
Speaker 7: just want to.
Speaker 5: Make Galloway is also another Candy Miller is sorry, but
Speaker 5: it's all. The point is, guess what. There are names
Speaker 5: that we cannot call, faces we won't recognize who are
Speaker 5: going through this battle everywhere. You have made our environments,
Speaker 5: our lives more hostile. The governor Florida declares this the
Speaker 5: Free State of Florida. He's the Gestapo, he's an authoritarian wannabe.
Speaker 5: And it's important that we we call out people like
Speaker 5: Sarah Huckabee, Sanders and Ronda Santis because all these people
Speaker 5: have designs on higher office so they can take their
Speaker 5: shenanigans not just on the state level, but to the
Speaker 5: federal level. And we have to be on are for this,
Speaker 5: y'all the Republicans. I suggested that we call the episode
Speaker 5: this show this this isn't normal. I actually directly it
Speaker 5: was this shit ain't normal. Yeah, And it's important to
Speaker 5: say what's not normal because they're so out of pocket
Speaker 5: every day, every day that it's hard to sort of
Speaker 5: you know, what's up, what's down, what's in between? They
Speaker 5: have topsy turvyed what is normal? What is default? The
Speaker 5: reason why the word default exists is so that we
Speaker 5: don't have to explain it. Everybody experiences it. That's why
Speaker 5: it's the default condition. What is default? It's no longer
Speaker 5: default anymore. Yeah, it's whatever they are feeling and what
Speaker 5: they want to do at that moment, at that time, y'all.
Speaker 5: It's insane and Tiffany and answer, I know why y'all
Speaker 5: feel like we're going crazy. I know I feel it.
Speaker 5: I feel it, especially this week because of the trove,
Speaker 5: the trove of insult and not just that, but impact
Speaker 5: that what they're doing. Kamala Harris put it well, she
Speaker 5: said kids were going to school for picture day. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and because of a lie. Call it what it is,
Speaker 5: a lie by jd. Vance, the state's senator in Ohio
Speaker 5: and his running mate, trolling Chief Donald Trump. These kids
Speaker 5: had to be evacuated. And the stories get much worse, y'all.
Speaker 5: I know y'all have seen them. But this is what
Speaker 5: they're doing, this is what they want us to turn
Speaker 5: the country over to.
Speaker 1: Well, it gets much worse especially when it comes to
Speaker 1: black women. Black women in particular about three times more
Speaker 1: likely to die from pregnancy complications than white women. Andrew,
Speaker 1: I'm so so sorry for interrupting you with incorrect information,
Speaker 1: but I do want because I said Crystal Galloway and
Speaker 1: that's actually not accurate. There are countless stories of black
Speaker 1: women who have faced dire pregnancy related complications, and Crystal
Speaker 1: Anderson was one in Kansas. Crystal Galloway is in your
Speaker 1: neck of the woods in Florida, Christine Field in New York.
Speaker 1: Women in Texas and Louisiana have been denied treatment for
Speaker 1: life threatening up topic pregnancies. Pro Publica has identified numerous
Speaker 1: women who died after they couldn't access legal abortions and
Speaker 1: timely metal care, and pro Publica said even among the
Speaker 1: women they identify, there are most certainly others. These people
Speaker 1: are not pro life. We have to start the media
Speaker 1: has to stop calling them pro life. We have to
Speaker 1: stop calling them pro life. There is nothing pro life
Speaker 1: about any of this at.
Speaker 5: All of it.
Speaker 1: Angela, do how do you feel about I want you
Speaker 1: to weigh in here, but there is another viewer question,
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that we get to it.
Speaker 7: So I do too.
Speaker 8: Okay, go for it, Hey, Native lend Pod. My name
Speaker 8: is Robin and I'm from Portland, Oregon. I'm one of
Speaker 8: your absolute biggest fans and allies. I share and elevate
Speaker 8: your content whenever I can. And I watched you every
Speaker 8: day of the DNC, and you guys were on point.
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you a question.
Speaker 8: Why isn't the Kamala Harris Walt's team coming out with
Speaker 8: big ideas, big populous ideas that would help just the
Speaker 8: common person, Like the janitor sweeping up at the end
Speaker 8: of the night, stop in his tracks and say, hey,
Speaker 8: I want that. Some of my ideas are capping around healthcare,
Speaker 8: capping premium to no more than five percent of your
Speaker 8: monthly incomes, capping deductibles at three thousand.
Speaker 4: Out of pocket expenses at.
Speaker 8: Five thousand, and do this by creating a public option
Speaker 8: to make the Affordable Care Act really affordable.
Speaker 4: And then for.
Speaker 8: Voting rights, I think she should come out with something
Speaker 8: like We're going to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights
Speaker 8: Act for God's sakes and abolish the Electoral College and
Speaker 8: make DC a state.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 8: And then for the economy, maybe cap interest rates at
Speaker 8: four point five percent.
Speaker 4: Everybody would love that.
Speaker 8: Regulate utilities and give free solar panel to folks to
Speaker 8: reduce energy bills.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I hope.
Speaker 8: You know how much I love you, and I will
Speaker 8: be watching everything you do.
Speaker 4: Bye, I thank you. I love that too.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I want to say here without getting too much into it,
Speaker 6: because I think Andrew correctly charged like challenged me on this.
Speaker 6: I did an interview recently with a presidential candidate that
Speaker 6: I don't need to name. You know, we talked about
Speaker 6: wishless politics and what I think is fascinating about what
Speaker 6: Robin raised here are there There are some things that
Speaker 6: she raised that literally have been on agendas since the
Speaker 6: sixties when.
Speaker 4: Uh the Congressional Black Haukus was founded.
Speaker 6: Before they were actually founded, they sent over sixty one
Speaker 6: recommendations to President Nixon. Included in the recommendations to President
Speaker 6: Nixon were issues around healthcare and DC statehood, along with
Speaker 6: so many other things housing, home affordability, access for small
Speaker 6: and black businesses. All of these things in addition to that,
Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy two, so a year after their founding,
Speaker 6: there was the National Black Political Convention, where there was
Speaker 6: another Black Agenda.
Speaker 4: Those same things were on there.
Speaker 6: When you look at the Black Futures lab Agenda that
Speaker 6: was developed as a result of the Census, Black Senses
Speaker 6: twenty twenty and then Black Senses twenty twenty two, those
Speaker 6: things are parts of the agenda. When you go to
Speaker 6: KamalaHarris dot com and look at the platform they have
Speaker 6: rolled out, affordable healthcare is on there, Affordable home ownership
Speaker 6: is on there, childcare tax credits see I didn't say
Speaker 6: daycare Andrew is on there. Creating relief for small businesses
Speaker 6: because Kamala has talked about being raised by in addition
Speaker 6: to her mom, a small business owner in her community.
Speaker 6: There are a number of these things that are on here.
Speaker 6: Why didn't she say ban electoral college. I gotta believe
Speaker 6: it's because it will take a supermajority of Congress to
Speaker 6: do that or state conventions. We are going to actually
Speaker 6: talk about abolishing the electoral college on an upcoming minipod,
Speaker 6: but I will just say that we have to be
Speaker 6: mindful of I believe, like selling pipe dreams to people,
Speaker 6: I think you have to tell folks, this is my
Speaker 6: idea in a perfect world, this is what I want.
Speaker 6: These are the things that it would take to get here.
Speaker 6: You call your senator, you call your member of Congress
Speaker 6: to help me get there. But in order for us
Speaker 6: to get there, it's all hands on deck, especially in
Speaker 6: the face of a Supreme Court that will grant Donald
Speaker 6: Trump immunity but try to dismantle Obamacare, a Supreme Court
Speaker 6: that would eviscerate ro versus Wade through Dobbs, But at
Speaker 6: the same time, say Shelby versus Holder can eviscerate the
Speaker 6: voting rights at.
Speaker 5: So we can right to a company over a person.
Speaker 6: Yes, and also turn a blind eye to Claire's Thomas
Speaker 6: being fluid out like the ho. He is, so all
Speaker 6: of that or I'm sorry before I said, huci whoci's nicer?
Speaker 4: So now that's the thing. He's a ho. Okay, So
Speaker 4: that's the thing.
Speaker 6: Right, We have to be mindful of these things and
Speaker 6: how we get there. I want all the same things.
Speaker 6: I want a ceasefire. I want a free Palestine. I
Speaker 6: want them to stop fighting everywhere. I want America to
Speaker 6: stop spending money on nuclear weapons. I mean all of
Speaker 6: these things. Were talking about fifty five billion dollars on
Speaker 6: nuclear weapons and yet and still here we are needing
Speaker 6: some type of negotiation with the Congress that feels like
Speaker 6: it's being held hostage by a party that has no
Speaker 6: interest in actually evolving or advancing the people, but rather
Speaker 6: only fattening the pockets of their friends because that's the
Speaker 6: trust funds anyway, y'all see, No, I mean, I'm filibustering that.
Speaker 5: Takes slight difference, only in that difference. What's slight difference
Speaker 5: in the sense that we'd be different, of course, But
Speaker 5: you know, I'm just saying I would bam polite and
Speaker 5: that I think it is really important for institutions to
Speaker 5: be held accountable by folks who sit at these hell
Speaker 5: politics might call it extremes, but at the outer layers
Speaker 5: of creativity, the outer layers of possibility, the space of imagination.
Speaker 5: Remember my teacher telling me Andrew, you need to read
Speaker 5: more fiction because the real world is dragging you down.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm reading quotables on stories. You need more fiction.
Speaker 5: That's where innovation and creativity lie, right. And so the
Speaker 5: beauty of I think people who who like Robin and
Speaker 5: others who come with these ideas again that are bold
Speaker 5: and ferocious, is that if we can build a constituency
Speaker 5: that then demands that right. Remember the Tea Party. They
Speaker 5: weren't everybody, but they were a large enough group within
Speaker 5: the Republican Party to pull that whole goddamn party into
Speaker 5: hell right with them. And that's what they'd been until Trump.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: So I think we should demand those things, should fight
Speaker 5: for them. We absolutely should go out and vote for
Speaker 5: Kamala and and drag her and every Democrat we can
Speaker 5: to the furthest possibility of oh, the furthest extent of
Speaker 5: possibility that is possible, right that they and maybe even
Speaker 5: unimaginable where we sit today, free lum for every every
Speaker 5: kid zero to twelfth grade. That shouldn't be the concern
Speaker 5: whatever that is, whatever that is, because it may get
Speaker 5: us to a negotiating table that gets us a portion.
Speaker 6: Of And I want to just offer some clarity to this.
Speaker 6: I did not say that we can't have it. I
Speaker 6: said I want to be clear.
Speaker 5: No, you talked about the agenda where it's coming.
Speaker 4: Clear about how we get there.
Speaker 6: I brought up those other agendas because we've been asking
Speaker 6: for it for too long, but the demands have gone unanswered.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying make sure that in our ass like,
Speaker 6: we want this on a platform. Here's how we get here,
Speaker 6: so we manage expectations. People end up really disappointed because
Speaker 6: they didn't know that it took an Act of Congress,
Speaker 6: or that if you did do an executive action and
Speaker 6: the Supreme Court overturned it a la student loan debt, right, Like,
Speaker 6: if that can actually happen, if you do something bold
Speaker 6: and progressive, normally it gets undermined by the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: I think that's so important the way you laid that out, Angelo,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't know. And I love
Speaker 1: that you were like, go to her website because her
Speaker 1: policy agenda is up there. But in terms and thank
Speaker 1: you Robin for tuning in and offering your question. I
Speaker 1: think they are introducing her ideas, yes, right, she has
Speaker 1: like ideas about it, and I think there are some
Speaker 1: big ideas. You know, the first time home buyer program
Speaker 1: that Vice President Harris introduced on the trail twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars tax credits as a shortage of available homes
Speaker 1: to keep prices high. Under an economic plan that she
Speaker 1: outlined in August, she pitched tax breaks for home buyers
Speaker 1: who build starter homes and even those who rehabilitate older
Speaker 1: housing stock. I mean that helps with things like blight
Speaker 1: in the country.
Speaker 7: Those are big ideas.
Speaker 1: You talked about the tax credit, and I know that's
Speaker 1: a big thing for you, Andrew, but six thousand dollars
Speaker 1: ain't nothing to need.
Speaker 7: That for a lot of the.
Speaker 1: Taxes on tips being eliminated. Now, I will acknowledge this
Speaker 1: is an area where she and forty five agree. This
Speaker 1: was a policy that, yes, if this was something that
Speaker 1: he introduced, well, you'll correct me. But my understanding is
Speaker 1: he did introduce this, that he would eliminate tax on
Speaker 1: tips for workers. From everything I've read and from soundbites
Speaker 1: I've seen, my understanding was that he introduced that.
Speaker 4: She did as an idea, as.
Speaker 1: An idea, not as a policy, exactly something that he
Speaker 1: said on the trail out of pocket drug costs. She
Speaker 1: would cap that at two thousand dollars a year for
Speaker 1: everyone insulin pays. My mother is diabetic, insulent copays. She
Speaker 1: would cap it at thirty five dollars a month. That's
Speaker 1: a big idea healthcare. When she ran for president in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, she proposed a six month paid family medical leave.
Speaker 1: That's a very big idea. That is a very ambitious policy.
Speaker 1: The United States is a handful of nations who doesn't
Speaker 1: have that policy. A senator, she co sponsored the Medicaid
Speaker 1: for All bill, of course, Senator Bernie Sanders introduced that,
Speaker 1: but she supported it. She has not been touting that
Speaker 1: since becoming the nominee, but what she has said is
Speaker 1: that she's focused on expanding access to reproductive rights and
Speaker 1: lowering prescription drug costs. So that's something to consider. I
Speaker 1: do want to dis point out the National Party platform.
Speaker 1: I'm not a Democrat, but I vote with Democrats, but
Speaker 1: I'm not a talking head for the party. Just to
Speaker 1: be clear, but the DNC's platform supports Medicaid expansion and
Speaker 1: pushes Congress to allow millions to use coverage similar to Medicaid,
Speaker 1: even in states that haven't expanded the program. So, again
Speaker 1: to Angelo's point, some of these programs are a part
Speaker 1: of an agenda. They do exist somewhere, but it would
Speaker 1: take an act of Congress to an act them. And
Speaker 1: that's why those down ballot races matter, and that's why
Speaker 1: there is no such thing as an off election year.
Speaker 1: Is it time for another break?
Speaker 4: It's definitely time for a break, and hopefully we can
Speaker 4: break run onto a mini pod.
Speaker 1: But carry on, but we have one more question. Did
Speaker 1: we take all of your requests? Yeah, we do have
Speaker 1: another question.
Speaker 5: I say real quick before we get question. And that
Speaker 5: is big difference between the two plans is that Thomps
Speaker 5: Trumps system sets it up so that basically big corporations
Speaker 5: can get can reclassify their workers, pay nothing to them,
Speaker 5: and then get a rite off for those workers, allow
Speaker 5: their taxes to be sad, which is why commonly Compare
Speaker 5: compares it with minimum wage increase based minimum wage increase
Speaker 5: and no taxes on tips. And there's some other differences too,
Speaker 5: but I wanted at least get in one.
Speaker 7: No, I think that's important.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did, and clarify for the people we
Speaker 1: keep saying they have the same. Okay, on the other
Speaker 1: side of this break, we'll take up your break.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 6: All right, everybody, welcome home again. We are almost to
Speaker 6: the close of our show. But before we go, you guys,
Speaker 6: I really would hope we would talk about it in
Speaker 6: this episode. Who shot you Donald Trump edition? And and
Speaker 6: what happened on his golf course or what didn't happen
Speaker 6: on the golf course. And and I also and I
Speaker 6: mean no jokes aside, it was a serious joke, you know,
Speaker 6: issue made it. The part that's a joke certainly is
Speaker 6: them blaming this ramp up rhetoric on Democrats and then
Speaker 6: the retort being why nobody shot at Joe Biden or
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris. I definitely want to get into that and
Speaker 6: talk about the dangers of rhetoric. We see it with
Speaker 6: the Haitian migrants. Some of the things they're experiencing is
Speaker 6: very clear that when they say something targeting a group
Speaker 6: of people, even our friends, even us, Tiff and Andrew,
Speaker 6: we know what the repercussions are of those words. There
Speaker 6: are there's violence and death threats on the other side
Speaker 6: of that. So I want to talk about that on
Speaker 6: the mini pod if they're mini pod. I was hoping so,
Speaker 6: because we already are dropped every Monday, and I don't
Speaker 6: know that people know that we actually do these mini pods.
Speaker 6: I mean a lot of y'all are watching, but I
Speaker 6: think some people say, I didn't even know it was
Speaker 6: about a minipods, So yeah, I love that for a
Speaker 6: minipod idea, so you'll be able to catch fat every
Speaker 6: Monday Pods.
Speaker 8: I love it.
Speaker 6: Well, that's very good. And then at the meantime we
Speaker 6: can have our little calls to action. Mine is going
Speaker 6: to be very self serving and it comes from my
Speaker 6: bias of working, working on, growing up working on, and
Speaker 6: growing up on Capitol Hill. I started the podcast with this,
Speaker 6: and I'm in with it because it's my most It's
Speaker 6: the most.
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Speaker 5: That's son, Sean Pitman, who served as my finance chair,
Speaker 5: the first black person to be a finance chair for
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Speaker 5: you are disaffected, disaffected as many of the many of
Speaker 5: us often are. So if you're looking for some ways to,
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Speaker 1: My ct A uh is I've probably given it before,
Speaker 1: but I'll give it again. Diversify your news diet. I
Speaker 1: have started watching.
Speaker 4: No No, No, but I watched.
Speaker 1: BBC News in the morning. I also watch something. It
Speaker 1: comes on PBS and it's NHK Newsline and it's really
Speaker 1: about news that impacts Asia. But they talk about like
Speaker 1: all kinds kind of things that you just don't hear
Speaker 1: in Western media. I also will watch Christian I'm impoor
Speaker 1: she has a show on People Yes, and I swear
Speaker 1: I find like I'm so much smarter when I'm not
Speaker 1: watching the echo chambers of our foolishness, and so we
Speaker 1: think so well, I feel more informed, I shouldn't say smarter.
Speaker 1: I feel more informed. I feel like, Wow, I had
Speaker 1: no idea because they talk about things that are happening
Speaker 1: here in America, but also things from a global perspective.
Speaker 1: But you also realize how what happens here in America
Speaker 1: has so much impact on the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: And that's why when you go to other countries, they
Speaker 1: can tell you who the Secretary of State was five
Speaker 1: administrations ago, because what happens here impacts them. So I
Speaker 1: encourage people tune out these morning shows that they got
Speaker 1: y'all convinced that millions of people tune into The Devil
Speaker 1: is a lie, They're not, so start Yeah, and even here,
Speaker 1: like tune into NLP every week. I feel like we
Speaker 1: break things down and keep it a buck with with
Speaker 1: everybody in a way that is just I think people
Speaker 1: are so hungry for We're so exhausted with pretending. And
Speaker 1: Andrew's point, this shit ain't normal, so let's stop treating
Speaker 1: it like it's normal, and let's have real, authentic conversation.
Speaker 1: And we do that here every week and until they
Speaker 1: start having real, authentic conversation. They don't deserve our dollars
Speaker 1: or our views. With the exception I got to say
Speaker 1: of our girl Joy Anne Reid, because Joy keeps it
Speaker 1: up but every night seven pm MSNBC. So definitely tune
Speaker 1: in the Joy. But outside of that, I'm searching. I'm
Speaker 1: thirsty for people saying something real on the screen.
Speaker 4: I don't know what you said that made me go.
Speaker 4: If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense. That's
Speaker 4: DJ quick y'all. Anyway, shout out to the West Coast,
Speaker 4: which is the best coast as we round our shit podcast.
Speaker 6: I mean, first of all, I'm not in the South.
Speaker 6: I'm actually in the dirt, dirty, in the dirty. But
Speaker 6: and Andrew didn't even come see me. He goes thirty
Speaker 6: five minutes point right away. Tiff left me early.
Speaker 4: Just you guys before we in the show.
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