WEBVTT - This Sh*t Ain’t Normal 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.880 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:04.120 with Recent Choice Media. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:08.799 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home. 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:09.200 Y'all. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.680 This is episode forty one of Native Land Pod, where 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:14.760 we give it to you straight, no chaser, and break 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.680 down all things politics and culture. I am joined by 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.720 my beautiful and lovely co hosts Angela and Andrew Gillum, 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.160 and I am, of course Tiffany Cross. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:29.200 What's going on, guys, Andrews sound like I don't know why, trugar. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:32.560 I was trying to make it a little nicer. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.239 You guys, Hey, if your waist is around your neck. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.440 Anyway, thank you. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.920 You look cute. Good, you look very cute in the pocket. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.440 So I had to wear this because it's getting colder, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.199 and I didn't wear it at the DNC because it 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.599 was a little too casual. And I have to look 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.840 hip hop today. It's breaking news. But I'm going to 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.040 be doing something for BT Hip Hop Awards. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:56.680 Oh nice. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.800 I didn't even know BT awards. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:01.240 Hip popper works. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:05.560 Oh yeah, okay, BT employees, I know. And I didn't 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.240 know that the vm as were still a thing. And 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:08.800 then I saw it and there was like news out 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:09.280 of the vm A. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.800 So now she actually I was gonna say, she my 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.039 aar p U out of this, like, I don't know what. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.880 You keep going? Can't do it on the wards? 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:18.520 Bad? 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.319 I didn't know. I didn't know. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:22.880 Can we can I do something a little bit because 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.240 I want to make sure, uh that we get to 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.679 everybody's question. I would like to like get into the 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.560 viewer questions right away to kick off the show with that. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.920 What do y'all think? Okay? 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.679 I like tell the people what they're looking for though it. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.800 Was a question about like do people listen to what 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.360 we say? I think we should kick it off with 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:40.800 that one. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.160 So we do. Can we do that after we talk 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.240 about CBC real quick? 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.600 Oh yes, I'm sorry, yes, okay, because the last time 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.480 y'all heard from US was CBC so false alarm. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.160 Congressional Black Caucus. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.960 Yes, the Congressional Black CLOCKUS Foundations annual legislative conference, which 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.960 takes place in DC every year. It's one of the 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.200 premiere black for instance that happens in the country. And 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:07.440 we had a fab time. Angela. So many people love 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.919 your dress. It was very uh, I don't know, it 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.400 looked very African to me. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.880 Yeah, it was it, And of course you would put 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.560 me on the spot to be able to name this designer. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.080 Her first name is Rosie. I believe it's ostline designer's 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.600 last name. I'm going to fact check myself really quickly. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.920 But in the meantime, you know what else is important 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:27.639 about that? 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.920 I know I started with fashion, but that's probably not 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.359 what you guys wanted to reflect. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.440 A S S O U L I N. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.520 And I was dressed by uh one of our favorites, 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.079 which is all right, Fashion Library. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.200 We love alright, we do. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.720 And that's all the plug we're doing until you guys 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.200 give us a deeper disturm. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:49.040 Huh. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.359 Now not Cliff Albright with black voters matter? All right, 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:53.440 Fashion Library? 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:54.080 Is this please? 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:55.800 I don't know. 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.560 I don't know the Fashion Library. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.320 Andrew, you look Gandrew in your suit because you clearly 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.120 want some attention to tell us you look you. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:04.280 Look good at O mushirt. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:05.440 He wants to change the laws. 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:11.480 Yeah, And speaking of the collective, we had Stephanie Brown, 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.720 James and Quinton James on the podcast. If you guys 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.080 haven't take in yet, we are thrilled to have been 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:18.960 joined by so many of our friends I feel like 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.240 every year ALC is a big family reunion. You get 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:23.960 to catch up with some folks you haven't seen all year, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.239 some folks who'll only come in town for that time 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.440 of the year. Let me tell you what set us apart. 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.560 When we were at the DNC. There were a lot 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.840 of other media outlets there. There were a lot of 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.320 folks taking the stage, other podcasts. We were the only 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.720 and the premiere and the exclusive show right before the 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.040 Phoenix Awards dinner, which I believe you guys are gonna 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.040 end up making history for two reasons. One is I 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.200 believe that will be Joe Biden's last public appearance in 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.440 a speech format to a large audience before this election. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:54.400 Wow. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.000 I believe also that that will be one of the 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.680 final moments. Well, the last time Kamala Harrison goes before 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.640 the CBC Foundation as a vice president. I think the 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.120 next time she comes, she will be the President of 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.920 the United States of America. The CBC Foundation Phoenix to 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.760 Ward's Dinner is a big, big deal in black politics, 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.919 and we wanted to make sure you all got a 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.679 front row seat of that experience. We spoke to everyone 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:25.520 from Congressman Jasmin Crockett to Fannie Willis, who of course 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.200 we talked quite a bit about on this podcast. She 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:32.160 was fantastic. We talked to Congressmoman Joyce Beaty, the chairperson 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.479 of the Foundation, Terry Sewell, so many folks. And I 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.599 got to do that side by side with my sister 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.000 and my brother and we were looking fly. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:39.720 It was different. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.760 We weren't in our dinim, in our well Tiveleby in 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.040 green or red or orange or pink or red. She 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.200 will not be in dina most days, but that day 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:48.760 we was fly. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.800 I'm hav gonna wear my denim body top body suit 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:53.840 that I didn't get to wear a n she says, 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.120 she is going to wear an I don't have venom, 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:58.360 I don't have denim. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:04:59.840 You can do what I did, friend, I just went 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:00.360 on line. 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.560 You know, I've gone Guys, I would like to be 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:03.800 the stylist of the Dinim. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.000 I'm good at picking out clothes. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.479 I sent you something on Instagram for you to get 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.240 and you were like get it. I'm like, girl, this 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.280 is a cute offer for you. But you were talking 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.080 about the Phoenix Awards dinner. I can we play the clip? 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.960 We were all called a few minutes ago and Vice 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:23.320 President Harris President elect Harris, I say she spoke at 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.520 the Phoenix Wars dinner as Angela was just saying every 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.000 year that the president comes and speaks uh to the 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.120 dinner when it's a democratic president, obviously, I don't think 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:33.960 Trump has ever addressed I. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.760 Don't think Trump even knows what the CBC is. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.279 He doesn't, he doesn't. Can you imagine if he walked 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:40.000 on that stage. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.520 I don't think it would be everybody will walk out. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:44.560 It won't even would be for me. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.479 It'd be like Biden actually won the Lifetime Achievement Award 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:48.560 at this dinner as well, which is. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:53.440 Why that Yeah, okay, let's play. Let's just let's play. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.600 You know, Andrew was an institutionalist, like. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.640 No matter who you know, Okay, which Poetus this one, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.320 but you let's. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:05.760 Talk about that on the other side, because I want 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.040 to see this beautiful clip your Vice President Kamala Harris. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:09.920 Let's roll the tape. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:10.120 Nick. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.520 Let me just say about Joe Biden. I have. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.760 Hello to all my divine nine brothers and sisters. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:27.440 And my soul on. 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:38.920 And to all my HB brothers and sisters. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:40.760 I love that moment. 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.360 I love It brought her into the room differently, right, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.960 like she sort of that laugh kind of She's like, yeah, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.279 they are here, they ain't here. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:49.600 Yeah. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.840 They literally started skiw weedon so loud, like she was like, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:53.680 y'all can have a seat. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.479 They were like after this message. I mean, it was 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:57.000 so cool. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.560 Speaking of messages, Andrew, what I'll be talking about today? 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.839 Yeah, well, I tell you one thing. We've been on 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.640 the road a bit, but while we've been going, it's 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.600 been happening in Florida. I just want to bring to 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.600 everybody's attention, for those who have not yet heard, how 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:18.800 the quote state of Free Florida is doing under an 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:23.880 authoritarian want to be dictator. More to come, Okay, okay. 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:26.800 Oh you want to go, tell us what you want 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.440 to talk about any We're not bad, Nope, okay. I 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.840 want to talk about something that I brought up before 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.600 over this summer when the a lot of GOP governors 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.200 were basically saying f those kids and not trying to 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.120 feed kids during the school year. I want to talk 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.680 about two key pieces of policy that keep coming up 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.720 on the campaign trail, and that is childcare in school lunch, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.200 and I just want to walk people through what that 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:55.480 policy looks like and prove that the GOP does not 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.240 care about children. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:58.320 Not ones day born. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.680 You know this, this podcast actually should be called I 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.080 Believe the Children are our future question mark because on 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.560 that same right, I believe on that same point that 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:14.080 Tiff was just razy. And what you just raised about abortion, Andrew, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.680 there's a whole other issue in the Senate. Republicans can't 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.240 figure out if they are pro choice, pro life, pro 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.720 mess they're voting against IVF. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.040 We're going to talk about that as well as. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:31.360 Some shady ish that surprise or not, Sarah Huckabee Sanders 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.600 had to say about our dear Madam Vice President. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:40.079 Kara Lugbee Sanders was the former White House Press Secretary 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.400 who was terrible at that job, if I say so myself. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.280 And now she is the Republican governor of Arkansas and 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.800 there was a black man running against her, and I 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.360 had high hopes for it. And you know this goes 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.480 to my point about the South is read until it ain't. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:56.320 I want somebody to unseat Sarah Huckabee Sanders whenever it is. 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.760 She's the perfect example of failing upwards. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.160 She has the last name of her father, who also 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:07.120 failed upwards and she continues to fail up. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.720 Andrew, I can't imagine how frustrate that is that he said. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.559 Well, I know it's the truth is all of us 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.040 know this well, our listeners know it well, you know 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.040 it well. It's if you got it well, where we 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.440 I mean heck, Michelle Obama put it perfectly. When we 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.080 are confronting the mountain, the mountain in our lives, we 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.040 don't have an escalator to take us to the top. 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:27.920 All right, we got to climb that thing. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:32.000 Escalator broke as hell. Hell, ship didn't exist for me 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:37.200 for most of them with ankleweight. Wait. Wait the rough 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:37.679 side of. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:45.720 The side. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:50.160 And you know. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.360 I hope you're doing a man? 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:57.160 Amen? 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:58.920 Amen? 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.720 Wait not Andrew still breaching. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:07.679 Okay, so efficiently told them what I was about to say. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.560 Who's going first? But can we do the newer question 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.760 now or you we want to do a Yeah, I 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:13.120 want to. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.600 Make sure we sufficiently covered all the topics before we 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:16.240 get cussed out. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.440 We're not recording by it confront. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.280 For you that we have not because we like to 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.040 talk about lots of stuff, so well, no to come up. 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.480 This is the agenda stuff. So let's get let's see. 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.160 Okay, okay, good question. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.680 The viewer question that we were trying to get to. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:31.360 Let's hear it. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:33.959 What's up Native Land. This is Craig Night again from 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.880 the sixty Curious podcast. First, I just want to give 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.640 you guys props for a job well done at the 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:45.520 d n C. And here's my question. I was thinking 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.840 about your analysis and your commentary on all things Kamala 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.520 Harris as far as her campaign is concerned, and a 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:56.080 lot of those things that you say, especially regarding like 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.839 how she handles interviews and what she should say in 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:02.640 the debate. I mean, all those things make a lot 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.560 of sense to me. So being that you guys have 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.880 more of a direct line to those figures in politics, 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:15.800 with all of your experience, would it be naive of 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.160 me to think that some of those things might be 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:23.880 getting through. And that's my question, Mike. As a loyal listener, 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.480 it would be really comforting to me to know that 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.319 some of the things that you say on your show 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.240 would actually get through to these candidates and they might 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:36.920 actually fashion or craft their their their strategies according to 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.160 some of the things that you got said. Because I 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:40.400 think that it's very valuable. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:42.959 I love that question. I love it. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.760 I have thoughts on that, but please say, oh, Angela, 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.280 you can tell me your thoughts. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.600 I can wait because I'm just gonna start name dropping. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.680 It's not it's not it's not gonna be negative. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:12:01.640 Okay, okay, well I'll answer Andrew you I will answer. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.920 People get to see it, though, because they're like, leave 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:13.520 and touch, andrewes and he frong, he leave, he rabbit, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.160 he bounced, he kangaroo, he hops, he be swaying all 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:17.920 the time. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.720 Air, off air camera, off camera on. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:23.560 Andrew. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:30.240 One of his questions from. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:32.960 Let him know what it really was, because you ain't. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.760 What you're not about to do is act like we'd 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:36.800 be going, He'll be shooting. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:38.959 Shoot. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.960 That is man's question. I want to say a couple 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.800 of things. One, I appreciate the question because I would 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.120 say yes, there are certainly people I can say definitively yes, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.760 there are certain people in the administration who listen to 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:57.119 this podcast on the campaign, who listened to this podcast routinely, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.680 the devil trying to keep me quiet. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.680 Not today saying today, drink your water. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.880 Yes, probably, I just got this flight my throat dry. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:10.800 The other thing I want to say, this could be 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.680 This could be why they try to keep me quiet 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.640 because the other thing I want to say, there is 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:20.360 a misunderstanding. I'll say, a misconception that a lot of 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.440 people are watching cable certain cable news shows in the morning. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.000 And that is why some people have disclaimed the fame 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.840 because you think, oh, this big branded platform and this 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.320 cable news platform, they must be getting millions of viewers 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.040 every day, and. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.120 That is not true. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.920 Some of these shows are getting five hundred thousand viewers, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.360 three hundred thousand viewers, which is not a lot cable news. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.600 You know, the primetime shows are in the millions, right, 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.760 but they're claimed to fame as Oh, because the administration 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.520 listens to us, they tune in well as the administration changes, 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.080 As demographics of the country and the administration changes, they're 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.840 going to start listening to other people. So I would 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.559 say for a lot of folks who you know, spend 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.080 spend resources in these shows, they're going to have to 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:08.719 rethink their entire platforms. And I look forward to that 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:13.600 day coming and a lot of people express viewpoints that 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.120 sometimes run contrary to the rising majority of this country. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.840 So I look for when that space is disrupted. Lastly, 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.080 I'll close with this. I just want to be clear 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.120 that the three of us do very different things, and 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.760 so I have so much respect for what Andrew and 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.080 Angela do. You know, like Andrew was a policy maker, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:38.280 you know, as an elected official, Angela worked in policy. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.720 So there are times where Angela has like great advice 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:47.440 for the campaign, great campaign strategy, great policy points. As 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.360 a journalist, I'm not really here to say, here's the 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.080 policy that the administration should should do, but I do 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.160 want to make sure that you our audience understands what 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.320 that policy is and how it impacts you, what the 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.000 GOP is pushing and how it might impact you. So 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.960 I am not necessarily here to say, hey, Vice President Harris, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.720 here's how you should perform in the debate. But I 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.280 do like to weigh in on what my brother and 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.680 my sister are saying, like, oh, that is a good idea. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.800 I like it, but that's just not my skills. That 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.240 if I happen to say something that that resonates, great, 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.400 but it's not. It's not necessarily my agenda. But I 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.400 do appreciate sharing the platform with folks who are better 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:26.920 at that kind of thing than I am. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.280 I just want to fact check tip really quick here. Yeah, 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:38.000 so actually, yeah, canyons, that is what y'all should do. No, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.280 but but but I believe that that's not what you're 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.840 trying to do now. But also, Tiff has worked on 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.760 a political campaign and advised the candidate and prepped him 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.000 for a debate next month. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:48.760 Who ran from ayor Baltimore? 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.680 Yes, thank you for helping the fact check yourself as well. 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.240 She has worked in policy as well. She worked for 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:56.480 any A as well. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.800 Can I just say what I did? I did outreach 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:04.280 and community of color. I want to advocate someone for debating. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.400 Also, are a great political strategist, and she also has 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.359 brilliant ideas in multiple fields, not just in media. 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:12.680 So now that that fact check was. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.000 Fishing for compliments, and I got it, and it works 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.120 so well. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.880 And honestly, these weren't even compliments. It's just like, yeah, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.560 I'm not gonna let you lie to me today. To 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.560 the listeners, I took it as a compliment. Yes, okay, 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.000 compliments this we love you do we get hurts. I 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.880 wonder when they show up, you think so, no, okay, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.960 but they just know that the love is through the screen. However, 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.760 what I want to say here is this I do. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.520 And I want to clarify this. From the very beginning, 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.400 people went in on us at the very beginning like 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.480 we were going to become. 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.120 I don't know who they were, but like from the. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.640 Beginning were the grievance people. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.360 Oh we were, Okay, I didn't. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.160 I didn't hear that particular terminology, and maybe I did 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:54.760 and I forgot. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:56.720 Y'all know how my memory set up. It ain't good. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:58.000 But here's the thing. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.200 What was interesting to me is there were a lot 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:01.720 of folks who are like, you just mad as you 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:02.280 never even. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:03.000 Been to the White House. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:03.880 That's dumb. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.280 You just mad as You've never been invited to the 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:06.760 White House. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.240 Uh, you just mad as you never talked to her? 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.359 Like off, this is somebody who literally called us to 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.160 say congratulations when we launched a podcast talking about Kamala Harris. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.280 And so I'm just like, yeah, that's not really it. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.240 So what we do have are not just a direct 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:25.040 line to her, but also to the team around President Biden, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.320 also to the team around MVP Harris. We have direct 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:32.040 lines on the political side, the policy front, the com side, 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.800 and we talk to these folks regularly. And if we're 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.320 as for advice we offer it. We have offered advice. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.399 We've offered advice about doing interviews, We've offered advice about 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.560 campaign tactics, We've offered advice at nauseum. I am happy, 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.480 y'all because I'm starting to see some of the things 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.080 that we've suggested on this show and off the show implemented. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.480 I think it's great she is going to be. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.679 Doing shows with people who are not necessarily friendly to 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.359 her campaign. I think that's great. That is what she 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.280 needs to grow her base. This is a place where 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.480 tif Andrew and I fight often. She needs to grow 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.680 our base, and I think that she's got the opportunity 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.080 to do that. So that's my short answer, because I 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:10.960 had to share my time with fact check and tiff 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.679 I can't believe a resident journalist tried to get on 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.000 here and tell a story actually Tiffany in nineteen ninety seven. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:17.920 Right. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:19.800 But the other thing is is that you can answer 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.800 this Craig for yourself, which is you do your own potting. 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.600 You influence people. I have to imagine that in the 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.480 stream of thought and conversation, that may be some things 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.560 that you hear us banter back and forth about, or 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.399 debate about may have shaped some of your own thinking. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.280 So I mean, I think the biggest and highest recommender 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.080 for the show is the fact that if you're on 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.720 the listening side of this, just know that you're in 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.720 good company with people who have abilities to make change 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.600 and shifts at every level of policy and government. But 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.399 also you are in company with people who are just 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.320 curious about what they may not know and spend a 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.679 lot of time with from day to day, week to week, 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.199 and this gets to be their little short dosage of it, 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.480 you know, weekend and we out, we hope, but we 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.560 also want to recruit and attract more people, so continue 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.520 to spread the word. Let folks know what this is 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.600