WEBVTT - Jill’s Back and Better Than Ever! | Golden Hour 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.200 Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:14.080 joining us. We're so excited to be back. Hey there, Susan, Hi, 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:15.200 nice to see you. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.760 And if you haven't done it yet, everybody, now is 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.919 the time to follow our podcast so you never miss 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.560 an episode. Just search for Bachelor Happy Hour in the 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:26.840 podcast app and hit the follow button. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.760 That easy. It's that easy, and it's super important that 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.520 you follow the podcast so that you get notified every 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.320 time there's a new episode. Also, while you're there, please 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.440 leave us a review. 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I'm sorry 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.400 that you cried like you did, but I admired you 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.320 and you were being real and honest with yourself. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:30.080 Thank you, CONGRATSA. When I watched it back, I was like, wow, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.920 I was sadder than I thought it was gonna be. 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.520 Like I thought it was like a Girl Boss moment, 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.959 like Okay, yeah, I'm gonna leave at my court and 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:38.840 it was like kind of pathetic. I was like, my god, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.520 I'll tear it up. Jill. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.360 Do you remember me coming up to you going, wait 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.600 a minute, wait a minute, you're leaving because I overheard 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.560 you And I was like, what you said? I tell us? 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.080 What tell us what you said? Do you remember that? 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.480 No? What it is all a blur? What did I say? 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:55.000 Tell me? 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.560 You were just like I hate being friend zoned here. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.640 I've just I'm everyone's and this isn't good for me. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:06.400 It's not healthy. And I was like, but stay and he. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.639 Wasn't there to find love, right, Yeah? So fun friendship? Yeah? 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.120 Right? And I feel like I can see I have 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.200 like I can see what's going to happen. So you 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.040 know what's what's going to happen. Is Sean going to 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.480 give me his rose? Probably? Not? Like why am I 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.560 going to? Why do I even want Sean's rose? Do 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:24.600 I even like Sean? 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.440 Yeah? How do you feel about that. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.160 Yeah, I feel Oh, I feel absolutely fantastic. I feel 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.640 like I made the right choice obviously. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.160 How does it feel feeling all the love from Bachelor 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.840 Nation and all of us after leaving it? 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.560 Honestly, it's been such a crazy experience getting all of 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:46.440 the messages and how many people resonate with me. And 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.840 it's honestly because I've never really had that from Bachelor Nations. 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.760 Usually it's all like conicism and you're so blah blah blah, 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.240 But no, this time, I feel like it was the 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.160 most kind of accurate to how I felt and know 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.120 people are seeing kind of the real emotions and I'm 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.680 always going to keep it real with you guys. So yeah, no, 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:08.840 it's been It's been really heartwarming. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:13.720 And yeah, people out there that feel the same way 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.640 you did it situations, you know, they resonate with that. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.320 And how do you feel about all the comments people 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.200 said you should be the next bachelorette? 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.320 Oh my god, I tell them to be quiet? 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.280 Oh is that is that? Is that something you would 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:27.600 not do? 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.079 Then? I don't think I would. No. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:34.320 Wait, wait, wait before you say Joe, wait before she 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:40.280 says no, I got an idea. We did paradise together, right, Golden? 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.880 Then yeah, how about you be the bachelorette and I'll 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.800 be the Golden Bacherette. We'll do what show would do bachelorettes. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.800 I like where this is going. You should definitely pitch this. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:54.200 Yeah, no, do share? Why would you consider not doing it? 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:54.840 What would you? 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.560 I mean, I've been a Bachelor Nation for four ish 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.160 years now and I haven't found a single guy that 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.120 I could see myself. 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:09.280 With that was it just takes one Jill, I know, but. 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.360 Still, like I I feel like the next guy that 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.280 you everybody knows about will be my husband. Like I'm 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.960 not going to I just can't do it anymore. Like 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.920 it's I mean, obviously would it be a fabulous opportunity, yes, 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:24.880 but like I'm also like I got things to do, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.480 Like I gotta like I'm thirty, Like we got to 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.320 get this thing rolling, you know, I don't know. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.080 Wait a minute, wait, So you're going to keep your 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.720 private life private? I hear you, So are you dating? 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.159 I am dating? Yes? Of course I'm dating. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.200 Oh love, we want to hear you tell us all 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.040 about your private lifcense you don't want to share? 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.359 Well, I mean, like I'm dating Okay, So here's the 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.440 stupid thing. So I haven't done the dating apps since college. Literally, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.880 so I've really never done the dating app. So I 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:58.080 downloaded a hinge. Oh my god. I was told there 0:04:58.160 --> 0:04:59.920 was going to be hot people, there was going to 0:04:59.960 --> 0:05:01.680 be cool people, as far as I can tell him, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.160 the best one on there. Like I'm telling you, it's 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.760 been such a struggle, Like I hate it so much. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.839 It's like it's like a full time job. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.479 I got three dates this week, I got this guy 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.080 next week, this guy I gotta check it with. And 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.360 I'm like, I just can't. So yeah, but I I 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:20.960 am dating obviously. 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.160 Well how did you meet the date? 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.560 Like, what give us the Oh, well, there's like there's 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.640 been a couple. There's been a couple, you know, ponies 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.160 in the stable if you will. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.039 But I take it you're not serious about anyone yet. 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.000 Well maybe I am, but I'm just not going to 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:36.320 tell you. 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.640 Okay, I like it more than one date with the 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:40.960 same person of course. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.200 Of course, yeah she's not. 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.880 She's not a serial dater. I want to get back 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:47.280 since you're not going to share it, I want to 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.480 get back to some paradise because I want I want 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.640 to get the tea on this? What what is your 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:58.040 thoughts on all the drama, the paradise since you know, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.320 since you left, and you know all that Jeremy's phone call, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.200 everything that to Susie, just all of the drawa. What 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:05.000 do you think about it? 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.760 Well, I mean it's like you could see these things 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.359 kind of bubbling beneath the surface, and now that the 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.720 money is involved, it's you know, getting pretty cut throat. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.599 I don't know if Brian, I'm not sure if Brian 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.840 would have told Bailey. I think someone had to. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.000 My god, do you mean Jeremy. Do you mean you're 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.000 not sure if Jeremy would Well. 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.839 I don't know if Brian. I don't know if Brian 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:35.200 would have if the competition element wasn't involved, I don't 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.479 know that maybe he would have, maybe not. It was 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.880 a great opportunity for him to do that. I would 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.360 say it was a good play, but again, like you're 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.560 taking people who aren't, you know, who didn't sign up 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.039 for a competition sale show to play in this competition. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:55.360 So I mean, the whole Jeremy thing, I okay, I. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.719 Hate to say this, but there's no one listening but us. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.960 Jill, go ahead, right, no, yes, it echo chamber. But 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.240 like I and I've told him to this to his face. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.240 I don't really care for Jeremy. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.920 I've said it on that I can't tell you, but 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.880 there are some people that I will not you know, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.600 I can't out other people, but I can tell you 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.320 you are not alone in that comment. 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.920 I know. And it's like whatever, Like you know, I 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.680 met him in person and he wasn't that really nice 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.280 to me. He's I think he's one of those people 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.600 that is only nice to women that they find attractive 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.480 or they you know, they care to know about yea, 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.760 they care right or like it thinks it's worthy of 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.200 their time. So that's fine. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.120 But I have you're gorgeous, so that thank you for sure. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.240 You're friends with Susie. Have you guys talked about all 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.880 the drama that that took place about her? 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.480 Of course we have, Yes, of course you have. Which 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.120 is so funny, like she's like I was on the 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.560 show for like twenty four hours and this narrative just 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:57.360 continues throughout, which is interesting. And I also, I mean, 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.800 I feel terrible because it's like, you know, she's being 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.120 but she can't speak her own truth. You know. It's 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.040 like she she's just being talked about rather than being 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:12.040 able to, like, you know, say things herself. I think, well, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.600 I don't know. I think Jeremy was a bit delusional 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.600 because he's like, oh, you know, like I'll just I'll 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:18.120 just compose. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.120 Wait, wait, let me let me just back up. You 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.000 think a guy is delusional for calling a woman that 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.840 he's talked to for let's call it ten minutes and 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.040 uh and saying I'd get down on a knee and 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.720 propose her. You think that's a sounds like a delusional guy. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:32.160 I don't know. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:33.800 Jell Oh, yes, man. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:38.040 I know it's right. It's which is like, I don't 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.040 know what he's thinking. But also it's like she turned 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:45.480 you down, brother, you're going to marry her? Yeah, I 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.319 just it didn't make any sense to me. It's never 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.000 made any sense to me. Bailey's such a catch, like 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.120 and well she said it out of Jeremy's league, so 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.800 it's like, let's go with that, like she is so deserving. 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:02.200 But you know, like, God, I hope that these Obviously 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.400 I wish the best for everybody, and I hope everything 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:09.640 works out. Do I like, you know, in my practical mind, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.400 do I think that all these relationships are going to 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:17.199 work out. Probably not, you know, but lessons are learned 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.040 along the way, and those are valuable too. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.040 Well, who do you wait? Who do you want? Which? 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.080 Which ones do you think have the best chance of 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:24.120 working out? 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.720 Sensor? And just they've always been good, you know, they're 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.400 so cute, so sweet. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.440 Wait, if should I break the news now that Keith 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:33.320 and I are engaged? 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.520 And that's what I was going to say. I was like, 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.719 maybe you and Keith, maybe you and Keith, or like 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:54.440 Jonathan and Leyah. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.640 I need your honest opinion with the man code. And 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.280 everybody was mad at Brian for telling me. Did you 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:54.719 respect him for doing that? 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.080 And yes, of course I did. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.160 And do you feel like he did it for the 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.480 wrong reasons like you said earlier? Or he really did 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:02.440 care about her? 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.439 I can't tell. Brian's hard to read. Brian's another one 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.840 where I'm like, also this shout out to Brian's family. 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.360 Brian's family loves me, so I can't really thinking about it. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:12.959 I love him. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.000 He I mean, I'm not sure that there's a lot 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.760 going on up there in the sense of like I'm 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.280 trying to manipulate a situation. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:26.679 Wait, wait with Brian. Yeah, oh my god, Okay, I think. 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.200 That's saying he wasn't doing it. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.400 Just a minute, No, what she said, there's not a 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:31.520 lot upstairs there. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.440 Well, okay, I'm sad, you know what I'm saying. But 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.720 in terms of like being extremely manipulative, I don't really 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.040 think that was hism o. I think someone needed to 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.040 tell Bailey and he had a good opportunity to do it, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.400 so why not do it? And also he had a 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.440 chip on his shoulder from Jeremy, so it's like if 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:50.760 I wanted to get revenge. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:58.120 Yeah, and Jeremy you're saying, I mean, it's it's almost 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.720 comical what Jeremy says. You know, I was gonna tell her, 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.160 but you know, I had to get a good night sleep. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.360 And I'm sitting there going, yeah, I was good to tell, 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.440 but you know, I had to wash my socks. I 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:09.800 was going to tell, but I had to write my 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.520 grocery list. I was going to tell her, but I 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.079 was dusting my end table, Like, come on, but it's. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.080 Eight days later, eight days later, Like you're really gonna 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:20.760 wait that long? He's like, I didn't think it was relevant, 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.560 but you kept bringing it up. I didn't know that 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.920 it was still pervasive. I knew that there was like 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.120 that he had maybe regretted his decision, but I didn't 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.360 know that up until the night that I left, that 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.440 he was actively talking about this. I had no idea. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:39.000 It was like that, what about the Sean and Alicia? 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.760 And have you talked to Sean since the show? 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:48.000 Yeah, I've talked to Shawn Sean. I mean, Okay, that 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.840 whole thing is a mess. It's a huge mess. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.880 Whoa and whoa huge. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.319 Mess and it's only it's only gonna get messier from 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:57.040 what I understand. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.160 And I just said it looked like the previews. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:05.400 Two things to say. I love the fact that I 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:06.320 am not involved. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:08.880 I'm proud of you, Kathy. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.520 I know, yeah, I agree with you, Jill. It's messy, 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:17.640 it's it's unkind. There's so many different uh, you know, 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:23.120 and yet both of those people were Everyone was so 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.320 kind to me on Paradise. I mean, they were lovely 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:30.600 people to me and good conversations. So I'm sort of mentally, 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.720 sort of caught in the middle with that whole thing. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.679 I would agree. I don't have a lot of experience 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:41.920 with Alicia. What I can say is like This is 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.319 so tough because, like, you know, this is what I've 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.600 had to learn throughout my like my seasons or my 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.079 time in Bachelor Nation, is like you get so close 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.600 to people within such a short amount of time, but 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.840 you've only really known them for like three weeks. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.200 Yes, that's right, but wait, we really know them? That's right. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.200 Well you don't really, it's the reality of it. But 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.640 all right, so we've covered what you think about others. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.280 Now I'm going to hit you up. What tell us 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:09.240 about Jonathan? What really happened between you and you know? 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.440 What have you guys talked about with regards tow this 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.400 the drama, et cetera. What what's going on? What happened 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:17.240 spill the beans? 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:24.800 Well, okay, I mean obviously we had a misunderstanding, misunderstanding. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.840 I misinterpreted these things that he was saying to me 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:28.800 with the information, you mean, the. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.280 One when he said date you, I mean that when 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:33.720 he said maybe I could date you. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.280 Yeah, he was like, oh, you're making my decision hard. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.280 You make my decision hard or something, And I was like, oh, 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.280 maybe there's a chip after I just said, you know, like, 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.679 are you open blah blah. So of course I misinterpreted. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:44.840 That I mean to. 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.319 I mean, this is with everybody. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.840 Yeah, I know, and like and that was honestly, like 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.360 I feel so bet for Leo, but like that was 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.600 it was validating for me to kind of see the 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.120 pattern unfold, like, Okay, he's maybe really not even trying. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.520 I don't think, Yeah, it's not me. I think that 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.760 he hasn't really given anyone a fair shot. And it's 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.360 like I'm giving Sean a crack, like come on, like 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:14.280 I'm giving Sean trying, me trying. It's like you you 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.360 can be surprised by people, do I think that? Like 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.640 Jonathan definitely shut things off like a little too quickly. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.360 I think because I think like we had a good 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.720 like he said, we had a good friendship. Brother, I've 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.400 known you for a day, like we we don't really 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:27.040 know each other. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.880 I don't know friendship friendship. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:31.720 And then like you know, and then he kissed me 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.320 on the date and he says, well, you know, we 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.720 we kiss we kiss friends. Yeah, I kiss my friends. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.360 What well, Jonathan, if you're listening, I never got one 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.240 from you, so that that argument does not hold water. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.360 And Jonathan, if you're listening, you and I gonna sit down. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.520 We're going to have a little talk. Jonathan's going on 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:51.360 with some therapy. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.840 Jonathan, you better, you better. You know, you better be 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.160 careful because Susan does wield a baseball bat. Okay to 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.440 ask question. Wait, I have to ask for one question 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.080 before because I don't want to run out of time 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.920 to ask this. Okay, did you learn anything? 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:05.320 She took my question. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.280 Oh, I'm sorry. Since I was there and I'm a Golden, 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.280 I thought, you know, have you learned anything from the 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.000 Goldens that you've held onto while you're on Paradise? 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.160 Oh my god, yes. I First of all, I loved 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.760 having the Goldens there. I thought it was like it 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.280 was so fun. You guys brought the energy and like 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.920 seeing the way that you were moving, the way that 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.400 you guys moved throughout the journey and life is like 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.200 so good for us to be able to look up to. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.240 And I honestly should have used you guys as more 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.240 of a resource because I was like spinning in my 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.600 head and like not using you guys. So I wish 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.880 I used you know, you guys as a resource more. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.640 But in having like, you know, some deep chats, it's 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.800 like I got to see what you know some some 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.320 of you guys are divorced or have lost loved ones, 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.960 and so it's like you get to see that that 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.920 perspective from you know, like if they could go back 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.760 or you know, things that they've learned from the later 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.480 end of their relationships. I think we only think about 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.680 like the budding early romance in paradise, but getting to 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.720 kind of think about what happens at the end and 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.800 how meaningful that is was was really important. So I 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.160 really loved it. I really it was so good. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.280 Is there anything you wish you would have done differently? 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.880 Are you not happy with everything? Good? 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.360 I'm so happy. Yes, I was. I was exactly myself. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.120 I wouldn't change anything. I left when my when it 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.160 was my time, my sparkle was going. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.520 And yeah, well let me say it's first of all, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.080 it's not too late. You call me anytime talk about 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.120 you know. I was always have an ear for that. 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.640 But I also want to know you were saying I 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.120 think I read or something that you wanted to see 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.760 Alex I can't even say his last name or Brian 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:56.400 Witzman did Are you in contact with either of those guys? Yeah? 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.600 Anybody wasn't there that you wish. 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.040 Was yeah, I wish either of them were there, But 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.320 I yeah, but. 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.040 You know there is a little thing, Jill, you could 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.160 reach out to them. You don't have to meet them 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:09.800 on paradise. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.040 No. I know, I that we we have both of 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.320 those people I have been in contact with in the past, 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.359 and I'm pretty sure that they know that the door 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.320 is open. But so I'm it's not what is. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.280 With these guys, Susan, what is wan with these guys? 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:26.439 You are beauty? 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.800 Now, that's old saying that grass always looks greener on 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.600 the other side and then all of a sudden it 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.119 turns brown and they're just no. 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.760 Men idiots, not all men. But can we just agree 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.120 this morning that many men are just idiots? The fact, 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.760 the fact that you are single blows my mind. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.160 I know it's okay, there aren't like it is okay. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.000 It is I'm in such a happy place in my life, 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.760 Like I turn thirty, I've got some very exciting things 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.479 coming up, and I'm just I'm happy and I am 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.920 dating and it's fine, and you're just. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.600 The exciting things coming Yeah, are trying. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.520 So the funny thing is I can't. And I love 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.679 when people I actually hate when people do this when. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.080 They're like, but I can't tell you. 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.960 I know. I hate that and I'm like, take you, Kelly, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.840 but no, I actually can't tell you, guys. But it's 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:21.320 very exciting and it's actually my dream come true. So 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.440 it's so exciting and I can't wait. And no, my 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.240 dating life is good. It's actually really good and I'm 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:29.000 super happy. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.679 Oh and will we find out this exciting news? What 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.639 do we know? 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:35.960 I'll call her later and I'll get it out. I'll 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:36.399 let you know. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.040 I actually don't know. I actually don't know. I'm like, 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.880 I'm bound to secrecy, which is like the best part 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:43.840 seek that is. 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.080 That's so awesome. I'm a little envious. I want to 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:46.600 know what it is. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.119 All Right, we got to move on. We're going to 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.840 go into our topic of the day. Okay, we're just 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.040 gonna ask a question where you're gonna give your thoughts 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:57.040 on it. Okay, Jill, all right, what matters more in 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:01.600 the long term partnership being best friends or being head 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:06.000 over heels lovers? Would you rather have constant butterflies or 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.440 constant comfort in a relationship? 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:09.719 What says you? 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:10.560 What do you think, Jill? 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.960 I think that Oh my God, that's so tough because 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.919 you get the butterflies at the beginning and you get 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:18.760 the head over heels at the beginning. But I think 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.000 long lasting being best friends and being able to, you know, 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.480 be comforted by that person is one hundred percent more important. 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.760