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Speaker 1: Okay, today we have a very special guest joining us.

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Speaker 1: One of our first returning guests, Bachelor and Paradise fan

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Speaker 1: favorite Jill Chen his hair. Hey, Jill, you look so

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Speaker 1: different down on the beach.

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Speaker 3: I know, like, worse are better?

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Speaker 2: No, you look amazing and I thought, let me just

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Speaker 2: get this out. You were nothing but class. I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: that you cried like you did, but I admired you

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Speaker 2: and you were being real and honest with yourself.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, CONGRATSA. When I watched it back, I was like, wow,

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Speaker 3: I was sadder than I thought it was gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Like I thought it was like a Girl Boss moment,

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Speaker 3: like Okay, yeah, I'm gonna leave at my court and

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Speaker 3: it was like kind of pathetic. I was like, my god,

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Speaker 3: I'll tear it up. Jill.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember me coming up to you going, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, wait a minute, you're leaving because I overheard

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Speaker 1: you And I was like, what you said? I tell us?

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Speaker 1: What tell us what you said? Do you remember that?

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Speaker 3: No? What it is all a blur? What did I say?

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Speaker 3: Tell me?

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Speaker 1: You were just like I hate being friend zoned here.

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Speaker 1: I've just I'm everyone's and this isn't good for me.

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Speaker 1: It's not healthy. And I was like, but stay and he.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't there to find love, right, Yeah? So fun friendship? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right? And I feel like I can see I have

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Speaker 3: like I can see what's going to happen. So you

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Speaker 3: know what's what's going to happen. Is Sean going to

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Speaker 3: give me his rose? Probably? Not? Like why am I

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Speaker 3: going to? Why do I even want Sean's rose? Do

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Speaker 3: I even like Sean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? How do you feel about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel Oh, I feel absolutely fantastic. I feel

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Speaker 3: like I made the right choice obviously.

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Speaker 2: How does it feel feeling all the love from Bachelor

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Speaker 2: Nation and all of us after leaving it?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it's been such a crazy experience getting all of

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Speaker 3: the messages and how many people resonate with me. And

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Speaker 3: it's honestly because I've never really had that from Bachelor Nations.

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Speaker 3: Usually it's all like conicism and you're so blah blah blah,

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Speaker 3: But no, this time, I feel like it was the

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Speaker 3: most kind of accurate to how I felt and know

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Speaker 3: people are seeing kind of the real emotions and I'm

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Speaker 3: always going to keep it real with you guys. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: it's been It's been really heartwarming.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, people out there that feel the same way

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Speaker 2: you did it situations, you know, they resonate with that.

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Speaker 1: And how do you feel about all the comments people

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Speaker 1: said you should be the next bachelorette?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I tell them to be quiet?

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Speaker 1: Oh is that is that? Is that something you would

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Speaker 1: not do?

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Speaker 3: Then? I don't think I would. No.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait before you say Joe, wait before she

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Speaker 1: says no, I got an idea. We did paradise together, right, Golden?

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, how about you be the bachelorette and I'll

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Speaker 1: be the Golden Bacherette. We'll do what show would do bachelorettes.

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Speaker 3: I like where this is going. You should definitely pitch this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, do share? Why would you consider not doing it?

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Speaker 2: What would you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've been a Bachelor Nation for four ish

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Speaker 3: years now and I haven't found a single guy that

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Speaker 3: I could see myself.

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Speaker 1: With that was it just takes one Jill, I know, but.

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Speaker 3: Still, like I I feel like the next guy that

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Speaker 3: you everybody knows about will be my husband. Like I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to I just can't do it anymore. Like

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Speaker 3: it's I mean, obviously would it be a fabulous opportunity, yes,

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Speaker 3: but like I'm also like I got things to do,

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Speaker 3: Like I gotta like I'm thirty, Like we got to

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Speaker 3: get this thing rolling, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait, So you're going to keep your

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Speaker 1: private life private? I hear you, So are you dating?

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Speaker 3: I am dating? Yes? Of course I'm dating.

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Speaker 1: Oh love, we want to hear you tell us all

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Speaker 1: about your private lifcense you don't want to share?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, like I'm dating Okay, So here's the

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Speaker 3: stupid thing. So I haven't done the dating apps since college. Literally,

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Speaker 3: so I've really never done the dating app. So I

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Speaker 3: downloaded a hinge. Oh my god. I was told there

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Speaker 3: was going to be hot people, there was going to

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Speaker 3: be cool people, as far as I can tell him,

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Speaker 3: the best one on there. Like I'm telling you, it's

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Speaker 3: been such a struggle, Like I hate it so much.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like a full time job.

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Speaker 3: I got three dates this week, I got this guy

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Speaker 3: next week, this guy I gotta check it with. And

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I just can't. So yeah, but I I

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Speaker 3: am dating obviously.

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Speaker 2: Well how did you meet the date?

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Speaker 3: Like, what give us the Oh, well, there's like there's

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Speaker 3: been a couple. There's been a couple, you know, ponies

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Speaker 3: in the stable if you will.

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Speaker 1: But I take it you're not serious about anyone yet.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe I am, but I'm just not going to

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Speaker 3: tell you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like it more than one date with the

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Speaker 2: same person of course.

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Speaker 3: Of course, yeah she's not.

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Speaker 1: She's not a serial dater. I want to get back

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Speaker 1: since you're not going to share it, I want to

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Speaker 1: get back to some paradise because I want I want

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Speaker 1: to get the tea on this? What what is your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on all the drama, the paradise since you know,

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Speaker 1: since you left, and you know all that Jeremy's phone call,

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Speaker 1: everything that to Susie, just all of the drawa. What

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Speaker 1: do you think about it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's like you could see these things

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Speaker 3: kind of bubbling beneath the surface, and now that the

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Speaker 3: money is involved, it's you know, getting pretty cut throat.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Brian, I'm not sure if Brian

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Speaker 3: would have told Bailey. I think someone had to.

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Speaker 1: My god, do you mean Jeremy. Do you mean you're

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Speaker 1: not sure if Jeremy would Well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Brian. I don't know if Brian

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Speaker 3: would have if the competition element wasn't involved, I don't

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Speaker 3: know that maybe he would have, maybe not. It was

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Speaker 3: a great opportunity for him to do that. I would

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Speaker 3: say it was a good play, but again, like you're

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Speaker 3: taking people who aren't, you know, who didn't sign up

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Speaker 3: for a competition sale show to play in this competition.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, the whole Jeremy thing, I okay, I.

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Speaker 1: Hate to say this, but there's no one listening but us.

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Speaker 3: Jill, go ahead, right, no, yes, it echo chamber. But

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Speaker 3: like I and I've told him to this to his face.

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Speaker 3: I don't really care for Jeremy.

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Speaker 1: I've said it on that I can't tell you, but

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Speaker 1: there are some people that I will not you know,

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Speaker 1: I can't out other people, but I can tell you

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Speaker 1: you are not alone in that comment.

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Speaker 3: I know. And it's like whatever, Like you know, I

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Speaker 3: met him in person and he wasn't that really nice

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Speaker 3: to me. He's I think he's one of those people

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Speaker 3: that is only nice to women that they find attractive

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Speaker 3: or they you know, they care to know about yea,

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Speaker 3: they care right or like it thinks it's worthy of

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Speaker 3: their time. So that's fine.

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Speaker 1: But I have you're gorgeous, so that thank you for sure.

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Speaker 2: You're friends with Susie. Have you guys talked about all

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Speaker 2: the drama that that took place about her?

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Speaker 3: Of course we have, Yes, of course you have. Which

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Speaker 3: is so funny, like she's like I was on the

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Speaker 3: show for like twenty four hours and this narrative just

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Speaker 3: continues throughout, which is interesting. And I also, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I feel terrible because it's like, you know, she's being

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Speaker 3: but she can't speak her own truth. You know. It's

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Speaker 3: like she she's just being talked about rather than being

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Speaker 3: able to, like, you know, say things herself. I think, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think Jeremy was a bit delusional

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Speaker 3: because he's like, oh, you know, like I'll just I'll

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Speaker 3: just compose.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, let me let me just back up. You

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Speaker 1: think a guy is delusional for calling a woman that

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Speaker 1: he's talked to for let's call it ten minutes and

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Speaker 1: uh and saying I'd get down on a knee and

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Speaker 1: propose her. You think that's a sounds like a delusional guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Jell Oh, yes, man.

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Speaker 3: I know it's right. It's which is like, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what he's thinking. But also it's like she turned

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Speaker 3: you down, brother, you're going to marry her? Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: just it didn't make any sense to me. It's never

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Speaker 3: made any sense to me. Bailey's such a catch, like

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Speaker 3: and well she said it out of Jeremy's league, so

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Speaker 3: it's like, let's go with that, like she is so deserving.

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Speaker 3: But you know, like, God, I hope that these Obviously

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Speaker 3: I wish the best for everybody, and I hope everything

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Speaker 3: works out. Do I like, you know, in my practical mind,

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Speaker 3: do I think that all these relationships are going to

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Speaker 3: work out. Probably not, you know, but lessons are learned

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Speaker 3: along the way, and those are valuable too.

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Speaker 1: Well, who do you wait? Who do you want? Which?

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Speaker 1: Which ones do you think have the best chance of

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Speaker 3: Sensor? And just they've always been good, you know, they're

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Speaker 3: so cute, so sweet.

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Speaker 1: Wait, if should I break the news now that Keith

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Speaker 1: and I are engaged?

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Speaker 3: And that's what I was going to say. I was like,

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Speaker 3: maybe you and Keith, maybe you and Keith, or like

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Speaker 3: Jonathan and Leyah.

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Speaker 2: I need your honest opinion with the man code. And

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Speaker 2: everybody was mad at Brian for telling me. Did you

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Speaker 2: respect him for doing that?

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Speaker 3: And yes, of course I did.

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Speaker 2: And do you feel like he did it for the

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Speaker 2: wrong reasons like you said earlier? Or he really did

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Speaker 2: care about her?

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Speaker 3: I can't tell. Brian's hard to read. Brian's another one

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Speaker 3: where I'm like, also this shout out to Brian's family.

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Speaker 3: Brian's family loves me, so I can't really thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: He I mean, I'm not sure that there's a lot

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Speaker 3: trying to manipulate a situation.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait with Brian. Yeah, oh my god, Okay, I think.

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Speaker 2: That's saying he wasn't doing it.

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Speaker 1: Just a minute, No, what she said, there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot upstairs there.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, I'm sad, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 3: in terms of like being extremely manipulative, I don't really

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Speaker 3: think that was hism o. I think someone needed to

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Speaker 3: Eight days later, eight days later, Like you're really gonna

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Speaker 2: It was like that, what about the Sean and Alicia?

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Speaker 3: Mess and it's only it's only gonna get messier from

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Speaker 2: And I just said it looked like the previews.

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Speaker 1: Two things to say. I love the fact that I

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, I mean obviously we had a misunderstanding, misunderstanding.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like, oh, you're making my decision hard.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is with everybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't know friendship friendship.

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Speaker 3: And then like you know, and then he kissed me

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Speaker 1: What well, Jonathan, if you're listening, I never got one

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Speaker 1: Jonathan, you better, you better. You know, you better be

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Speaker 2: Is there anything you wish you would have done differently?

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Speaker 2: Are you not happy with everything? Good?

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy. Yes, I was. I was exactly myself.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't change anything. I left when my when it

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Speaker 1: And yeah, well let me say it's first of all,

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Speaker 1: Alex I can't even say his last name or Brian

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Speaker 2: Anybody wasn't there that you wish.

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Speaker 1: You know there is a little thing, Jill, you could

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Speaker 3: No. I know, I that we we have both of

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Speaker 1: With these guys, Susan, what is wan with these guys?

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Speaker 1: You are beauty?

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Speaker 2: Now, that's old saying that grass always looks greener on

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Speaker 1: Men idiots, not all men. But can we just agree

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Speaker 3: I know it's okay, there aren't like it is okay.

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Speaker 3: It is I'm in such a happy place in my life,

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Speaker 3: Like I turn thirty, I've got some very exciting things

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Speaker 2: The exciting things coming Yeah, are trying.

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Speaker 3: So the funny thing is I can't. And I love

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Speaker 2: They're like, but I can't tell you.

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Speaker 3: I know. I hate that and I'm like, take you, Kelly,

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Speaker 2: Oh and will we find out this exciting news? What

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Speaker 3: I actually don't know. I actually don't know. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: That's so awesome. I'm a little envious. I want to

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Speaker 1: on it. Okay, Jill, all right, what matters more in

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Speaker 2: What says you?

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Jill?

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Speaker 3: I think that Oh my God, that's so tough because

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Speaker 2: I agree, But I want both all the time.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you want both all the time. But God,

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Speaker 1: I know, having your best friends, yeah, I think we

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Speaker 3: It is a good feeling. I think that there's a

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. We have these questions written in but our fans

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Speaker 3: Yes, of course I love giving advice.

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Speaker 2: This one is from Carly and she's thirty six and

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Speaker 2: from Miami, Florida. From woman to woman, I've been really

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Speaker 2: struggling with my body. Every time I look back at

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Speaker 2: I'll look and feel after the second time. I know

437
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: my body created life, blah blah blah, and I understand

438
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: all the self love narratives, but that doesn't stop me

439
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: from feeling frustrated and unhappy with myself. I'd love some

440
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: words of wisdom on cultivating self love. Does this struggle

441
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 2: with our bodies as women ever truly go away as

442
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: we get older or is it something we just learn

443
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 2: to live with?

444
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: Well, Jill, since you've had four or five children, how

445
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 1: did you fell out here first?

446
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 3: That's what I was like. I feel like I can't

447
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: really comment on this. My best friend just had a

448
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: baby though, is their second baby, and she's kind of

449
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: dealing with the same thing. And I would never blame

450
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 3: anybody for taking, you know, measures to make themselves feel

451
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 3: good and look good. I'm not saying, like, you know,

452
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: anything extreme, but if it's something little you can do,

453
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 3: definitely do it. But I think that for me, I've

454
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 3: heard this before that it's like I've never seen somebody's

455
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: body and thought about it for more than a second.

456
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: I like, if someone's on the beach, like you know,

457
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm always self conscious on the beach, I've never gone

458
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: to the beach and seen a body that has stuck

459
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: in my memory, you know, it's just not at the

460
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 3: forefront of my mind. And the people who judge are

461
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 3: there's something deeply wrong with them. I think that you know,

462
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: you can't have your body prevent you from doing from

463
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: doing anything in your life, especially you know, if you

464
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: want to have more kids or you know whatever. I

465
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: don't think that I fully understand, Like it's like the

466
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 3: self consciousness and feeling like you know that that worry.

467
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 3: I totally understand it. But there are things in life

468
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 3: that you really can't control, and there's things you can control,

469
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: and you have to kind of like pick and choose

470
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 3: your battles. There's a lot there's people out there with

471
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: you know, like physical disabilities that can't change their situation,

472
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: and so there has to be the level of acceptance.

473
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 3: But I think, you know, like be kind to yourself.

474
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: You did you created life, and it's like a beautiful

475
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: thing and you should just enjoy it.

476
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: I agree. And there's always surgery after the second one

477
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: if you need it, it's going to make you feel better.

478
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: But the self love part, yea, That for me came

479
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: with maturity yeay later in life and love it. When

480
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: I came off the Golden Bachelor, that was the first

481
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: thing I said, I'm good with who I am. I'm

482
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 2: comfortable in my own skin. Yes, I do the same

483
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 2: thing a Carly look at pictures and go damn I

484
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: look good then if I only knew what I know

485
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 2: now and look like that'd be dangerous. So like it changes,

486
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: it's normal, it's life.

487
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 3: And I feel like I feel like it's always the gross.

488
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 3: Like you said, the grass is always greener. I look

489
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: at pictures of me from like two years ago, and

490
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, if I was only looking

491
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: like that, but that time I was looking at pictures ago.

492
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: So you have to like enjoy where you're at.

493
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I will say having children, I gained I

494
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: have three, and I gained a lot of weight with

495
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: each child, Carly, and I will say it took me

496
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: almost a year to get off the weight with each

497
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: child and.

498
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: Each which is normal.

499
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: Well, I have a lot of friends who you know,

500
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: a month later were back in their skinny jeans, and

501
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: you know that wasn't me. I had a rough time.

502
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: I get I get your problem here, Carly. I was

503
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: exactly there. I had a really hard time getting the

504
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: weight off. And what I would say to you is

505
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: everything that Jill and siss are saying, which is, you know,

506
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: give yourself some grace and some time. But the other

507
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: thing that might help you is just get on walk,

508
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: do something for yourself ten minutes of exercise that'll make

509
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: you feel like you're moving towards your goal of getting

510
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: back in shape, feeling better about yourself, because nobody can

511
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: tell you to feel good about yourself. If you don't,

512
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: you're just not going to hear it. Right. And I

513
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: think as we get older, well, things shift, But you

514
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: like I frankly look better now than I did when

515
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: I was younger, just because I work hard at it.

516
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: So I don't think necessarily where she says do we

517
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: struggle with our bodies, does it ever truly go away?

518
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: I think that's up to the individual woman. It's a

519
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: lot of women, I think use getting older as an excuse.

520
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: That's their choice to do it. But men, I think

521
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: this is crucial, critical to you know, for some people,

522
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: it didn't bother me at all. That's what I'm saying.

523
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: It's just everyone has their own journey. But I think Carly,

524
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is be kind to yourself. As Jill said,

525
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: You've brought this child into the world, and you don't

526
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: want to look back ten years from now and say,

527
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, so what I was ten pounds or fifteen

528
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: pounds more. I wish I'd had another child.

529
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: So and I also know Carly that it is so normal.

530
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: We all look good ten years ago in our pictures.

531
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: Two years ago, it was a good picture, you know it.

532
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: But look where you are now. You have children, you

533
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: gave birth, and you're still hot. You know, you're hot

534
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 2: in your own way. You got to feel good about yourself.

535
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: I think what helps me is just like the last

536
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: thing I'll say back because I don't have kids, but

537
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 3: I think for me, like whenever i'm feeling that way,

538
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: I think if everything is temporary, like I'm like, okay,

539
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: this is just the way that I said I look

540
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 3: now and that's okay, and it's going to change, and

541
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: so everything is temporary.

542
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. That is very good advice, Carly.

543
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: Be good to yourself and love yourself because.

544
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: And let us know if you get pregnant what you have,

545
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: because kids are great, you know, go from two to three,

546
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: maybe go and have four, you know, just going you know,

547
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: the five babies.

548
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Are any questions you have for us before we have.

549
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: To oh my god, that I have for you guys? Yeah, okay,

550
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: So Susan, are you still with that Frenchman? Yes?

551
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: Well he's there and I'm here that's a struggle.

552
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: But yes, yes, okay, and yeah, so how are you

553
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: dealing with like the distance?

554
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: It sucks, especially because he was due to come tonight.

555
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: O he canceled. Yes, he couldn't hit the gentleman his

556
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: friend that was going to watch his dog. Well, that

557
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: guy was walking his own dog and he got in

558
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: a fight with astray and he got mange. And it's

559
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 2: really contagent. It was like a big thing. And I

560
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 2: only found out a couple of days ago, and I

561
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: was like, it's like deflating your balloon, you know. Yeah,

562
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know when the next time that I'll

563
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: see him, So yeah, that part is not fun.

564
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: That part's not fun. Okay, but so do you think,

565
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: like do you regret not, like, you know, being in

566
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: a relationship and not going on paradise.

567
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: No, he's a great man.

568
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: Okay, good.

569
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I love to hear that. And he makes me

570
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: feel good, you know, I love being around them. Kathy knows.

571
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good.

572
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: I'm sick of hearing about it. Susan.

573
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: I literally like everybody who has like a happy relationship with.

574
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: My congratulations.

575
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 3: Years.

576
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you.

577
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, now I push it for Kathy. Okay, so

578
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: what did what was your perspective on Paradise and what

579
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: would you tell the younger people there about what question

580
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: about about the way that we were acting.

581
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: What you saw?

582
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: Well, do you mean the drama or just getting to

583
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: know guys?

584
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I think okay, maybe like on how to

585
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: like cultivate proper Do you think Paradise is a place

586
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: you can properly cultivate a relationship?

587
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I think that it is. What I said to

588
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: the young ones that I call them the young ands,

589
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: I said to all of them, use this time. You know,

590
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: this is a rarity where you have no responsibilities. You

591
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: don't have to cook, clean, you're not at your job.

592
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: You have all this time to get to know someone.

593
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: And this is just like a jump start of a relationship.

594
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: But as you said, Jill, when you leave here and

595
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: you jump back into the real world, you're going to

596
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: have to manage things like money, You're going to have

597
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: to find out where you're going to live. You're going

598
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: to find out if you really are compatible when the

599
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: pressures of the outside world face you. So my advice

600
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: to all of them was give yourself some grace and

601
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: realize that things will change a little bit when you

602
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: go home. Doesn't mean it's good or bad. It's just

603
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: there's going to be an adjustment parod when you go

604
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: home from pared.

605
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: And I think Jess is doing a good job of

606
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: that because when she says, I don't know that I'm

607
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: going to move right in with you immediately right And

608
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: that made me nervous because it was like a cliffhanger

609
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: that one week. And then they talked about it and

610
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: he's such a sweetheart and he goes, we'll do it

611
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: on your time. You know, I'll be patient. But his

612
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: friends are all getting married having kids, and he wants

613
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: to stay up with that so the kids can be

614
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: raised together and not get it.

615
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: And I mean there space, and I think there's several

616
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: relationships there that not necessarily our paradise, but overall over

617
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: the seasons of Paradise that people have met and married

618
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: and have great relationships. So it's like anything else in life.

619
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: You know, you have to kiss a lot of frauds,

620
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: but it's a great opportunity to have these budding relationships

621
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: and see where it goes. So yeah, I thought it.

622
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I think it's a great opportunity.

623
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, one where they threw money in it.

624
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: No, no, I've never been on one that they thren

625
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: money on it. And and people are like your friends

626
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: for the money. I'm like, that's five for a thousand

627
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: dollars was never going to be mine? Like if there's

628
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: no way, who is I going to be a Sean?

629
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: Like no, but wait, it's not. No man is worth

630
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: that money.

631
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, no, You're you're mixing it up.

632
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: And I've said this repeatedly just because you you have

633
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: your relationships on money and you have your money on

634
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: the other right, So during these challenges, depending on who

635
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: wins and it doesn't, Keith and I have a great relationship.

636
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: We couldn't halftime, we couldn't get the answers right. So

637
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: the money and the relationship are different in my In

638
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: my book, you can still walk away from Paradise with

639
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: no money and have a great love. I think you

640
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: could conceivably walk away with Paradise with a lot of

641
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: money and no relationship just the couple you had, they're

642
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: coupled up. So I don't necessarily think money and love

643
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: go together in that I think it was.

644
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: A big twist when they threw that in and now

645
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: towards the end and they're given, you know, making you

646
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: think twice it's going to be love or money. So

647
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: somebody also I could think of as somebody that I

648
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: think is so in love is going to diss the

649
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: other person and take money.

650
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: I would that would be bad, Keith and I. Keith

651
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: and I had said, We've said. It's been aired on

652
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: the show a couple of times. We had said we

653
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Speaker 1: would never take money from kids. I mean, are you're

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Speaker 1: in a different situation. Well, well no, because I've talked

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Speaker 1: to a lot of my friends who are my age.

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Speaker 1: They're like, are you crazy, Kathy, and I said, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. Here's the thing. At my age, connections and

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Speaker 1: relationships with people are far more important to me than

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Speaker 1: adding some more money to my bank account.

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Speaker 2: For you, But they're twenty thirty, you know. That's what

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Speaker 2: I said.

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Speaker 1: For young people, they want love, they're starting their lives.

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Speaker 1: That's why Keith and I could never take the money.

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Speaker 1: These young kids could use the money to pay off

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Speaker 1: college debt, by their first home, all those things that

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Speaker 1: that to me would be such a good use of money.

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Speaker 1: So that is your question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it does, Jill.

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Speaker 2: We love having you and you'll be back with us again.

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Speaker 2: Trust and believe me because we love having you. And

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Speaker 2: unfortunately that does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy

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Speaker 2: Hours Golden Hour.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, and be sure to

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Speaker 2: Make sure you submit your questions. You know what to do.

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Speaker 2: Go to bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour, or you

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Speaker 2: can hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour

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Speaker 2: and Jill, as soon as you're allowed to tell us,

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Speaker 2: we want to know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you will be hearing from me.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to sleep tonight thinking what could it be?

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Speaker 2: What could it be?

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Speaker 1: We loved having you, Jill. But in the meantime. In

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Speaker 1: Till next time, have a great week,