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Speaker 1: vigion Welcome to patri Gets Unfiltered. I heard Evan this

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Speaker 1: morning on one of Paul's stations. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: it got up that early funny, That's all I thought of.

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Speaker 1: I was like, how is Evan up? From the sounds

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Speaker 1: Lazar household, the SPF rating of Fred's suntan motion in

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Speaker 1: a rule of forty five. Oh, I'm playing under on

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Speaker 1: that one. Here an oil guy who guess you oil

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Speaker 1: didn't even look like he's been in the Sun's very

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Speaker 1: close to the equator. It's close to Venezuela. So like

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Speaker 1: always wondered that because Hardy does the commercial for like

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Speaker 1: have a lot of fat. Talk to Hardy, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: where did they freeze it? Can brother get a nice cube.

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Speaker 1: So Paul playing the role of Vannah White, so do

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Speaker 1: shirt today or a future show. We gotta boxes up there. Boxes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have some trivia questions that we're gonna throw at you.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of them, so yeah, you might

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Speaker 1: want to could be a fun offseason for you guys. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good questions though that Paul is cracking

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Speaker 1: so people go there first, all right, Um, so what

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Speaker 1: Paul shows. Oh I wish our show, yeah, all shows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: gotta remind them you're like yourself, like the Rupert Murdoch

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Speaker 1: Judge and Patricia are back part of the staff. Does

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00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 1: that bother anybody but me? I just bothered by things

423
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: somebody was saying to me today, say like, let's just

424
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 1: say he stays and all season the narrative is, Wow,

425
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 1: this offense looks a lot better than it did last year,

426
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: Like how is that for him? That's being here and

427
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: having to listen to that every day? That's and it

428
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 1: feels to me a little optics like they're they're trying

429
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: to manage that and not have that Like I just

430
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: feel like he's all of a sudden mention of him,

431
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 1: like nothing right. This is gonna be strange for you guys.

432
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the mac Jones defender an apologist here,

433
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 1: Like how does he feel like these two guys who

434
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 1: destroyed a whole year of my career are still a here?

435
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: Like you didn't think they were bad enough to lose

436
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: their jobs and after they what they just did to

437
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: me but yeah, but you the way you phrase it,

438
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: though I disagree with what they did to me, that's

439
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: what he thinks, I know. I think I think he

440
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: doesn't think that they did a good job. But I

441
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: don't think for you. I don't think he thinks they

442
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: were doing to him it was like I don't like

443
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: what you're doing. But I don't think it was like

444
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: you're doing it to me. I think he just didn't

445
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: like them as their coach, and that can happen. And

446
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: I think I would hope if they were here it'd

447
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: be like, all right, So you think mac Jones would

448
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: look at it and say, I don't think they did

449
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: a good job as coaches, but as long as they're

450
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: not coaching me, it's fine. Yeah, And I think less

451
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: of mac Jones, No, no, no, But I don't think

452
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: mac Jones would get mac Jones. I would think mac

453
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: Jones would say these guys weren't weren't good at what

454
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: they do. I don't want them part of the team.

455
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't want them coaching. Oh No, I don't think that.

456
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he would do that. I mean, I

457
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: think if they're in some other roles, it's going to

458
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: do right. If they're not. If they're not, if they're

459
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: in some of the role, that's not affecting him, Like

460
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: he'd be like, Okay, they were asked to do these jobs,

461
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: they didn't do a good job, and they're doing something

462
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: else now and we're professionals, and and it's I'm not

463
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: holding a grudge because now I have a new coordinator.

464
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: I've turned the page, and so is the team, and

465
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: like I would hope that's that would be the attitude.

466
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: I don't want them anywhere near me. Oh cooties, I mean,

467
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: what what? But I'm not suggesting that he doesn't have

468
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: the power to do that. I'm not suggesting he's going

469
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: to go to Bill and say I want those guys

470
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: out of here. He's not gonna do that. No, But

471
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: I think it's disrespectful to him. And they have two

472
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: guys that failed so spectacularly not have any repercussions for

473
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: from it, and you just want to that's my point.

474
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: How much how much how much weight they have in

475
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: the locker room still or has that had the last season?

476
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: Like can they go do other things to make it

477
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: like it was a malicious thing that they did. It's not.

478
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: They just weren't ready. They just weren't competent for that job.

479
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: And also Mac probably isn't the only one that feels

480
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: this way. It's probably a collective of the whole team did.

481
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: Obviously they made the change. Thank you. Defensive players felt

482
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: pet Way. No, but like I don't I agree with Alex,

483
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: Like how would you feel, Paul? I would want them out?

484
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: Why because I don't think they were good at what

485
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: they did. Okay, so now they can't work for us anymore. No,

486
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: especially I gave it us Judge, I know, like that

487
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: that story indicated that Joe Judge had his hands in everything.

488
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: Well they had that he didn't have any jurisdictional But like,

489
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: I need that guy gone. But Paul, we made the

490
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: We made the analogy, you know, a couple of weeks ago,

491
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: like what if I asked you to do something one

492
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: year or that you've never done before and you didn't

493
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: do it well? So after that, okay, so what was it?

494
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: Well whatever being a video guy, okay, and you weren't

495
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: good at it, And after that year we say, all right,

496
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: you're back to writing, Like okay, should Chris Gogelo say

497
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't want him here? He did a bad job

498
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: for me, okay, So when I was doing the video

499
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: part that I couldn't do, yeh, was I then going

500
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: over to the editing department and telling them how they

501
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: should do that? And then what was I going over

502
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: to the writing department and say, you guys need to

503
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: start that all over it again. And when was I

504
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: then going over to the football area and saying, you

505
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: guys don't have any idea what you're doing, because that's

506
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: what allegedly allegedly right Joe Judge. That's what football is

507
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: all about. It's a bunch of alpha guys all thinking

508
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: they're right and holding the ground and right. I think

509
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: Mac thinks he's right and he's holding his ground, and

510
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: Joe Judge thinks he's right. I don't think that's a

511
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: good situation. But that happens on every team, even when

512
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: they're winning. Like there's different Like these guys are always arguing.

513
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'm telling you I don't. I would hope

514
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: that you turn the page. You act professional. He's not.

515
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: He's not involved anymore. He's doing something else. He's not

516
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: involved anymore than fine, Well yeah he's not. But it

517
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: sounds like they're going to be in It sounds like

518
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: definitely Joe Judge is involved. Yeah, that's that sounds like

519
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: he is on the staff. Yeah, because he was, based

520
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: on a lot of reports on the staff doing what.

521
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't care. Well, what if he's doing special teams, Paul,

522
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't care. He has already proven he can't stay

523
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: in this lane. He's not going to just do special teams.

524
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: So you're saying it's it's not a competency, it's a personality. Yes,

525
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. If it's that, then

526
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: he should have been gone already well, based on that story,

527
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: based out of his reputation in New York when he

528
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: was there. I'm hard to you don't know anything, but

529
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to assume it. I don't think mac Jones

530
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: will publicly rip these guys and say it's it's them

531
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: or me, like I want them out. I don't think

532
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: that will ever happen, But I think inside internally he'll

533
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: look at that as this is what they thought of me.

534
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think so. I think I think

535
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: Max's more of a grow and I look at the

536
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: zoact thing in the same kind of thing. Yeah, I

537
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I if if, if they don't

538
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: have hands in the offense. I don't think Max should care,

539
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't want people losing their job,

540
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: you know, like because I just I just feel like

541
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: until this point, and I mean this was I mean,

542
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: I just felt like he was on the outs, Like

543
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: when he wasn't at the Shrine Bowl. You haven't heard

544
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: any mention of him, and then all of a sudden

545
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: you hear he's interviewing for this job. It just it

546
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: sounds to me like reading between the lines, that that

547
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: they feel kind of like, no, I don't know exactly

548
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: like Paul, but they feel like he's he's he's probably

549
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: well it's gonna work around here. What that tells me

550
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: is that whatever, if he does have a role here,

551
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: it's a diminished role, and he might as well be looking. Yeah. No,

552
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean like I don't think I would, you know,

553
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: if he goes back up to the Ernie Adams role.

554
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that kind of the world totally different,

555
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, not on the step. Yeah, yeah, I'm okay

556
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: with that. If he does that, should Matt Mac shouldn't.

557
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't think Mac would care about that. That's what

558
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what I'm But if he's a coach,

559
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: then then I would care about that power Mac. Yeah.

560
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I think the question though, is like, you know, where

561
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: is Joe Judge gonna land? Is he gonna go back

562
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: to special teams? Is this you know, how does it

563
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: affect effect cam Acord. I think that's I just I

564
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: think Matt Patricia's out. I think he's I don't think

565
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: I think Patricia's out and Judges in. And I hate

566
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: to say it like this, but I think it's because

567
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: Patricia's contract is up and Judges isn't. Yeah, yeah, it

568
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: could be. It could be money. Now, I don't know

569
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: any money, as is often the case, fred I fully,

570
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I want to get everything on the table. I know nothing. Yeah.

571
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: No one is like whispering behind you know, behind closed doors,

572
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: um about how the things are going to be situated

573
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: this year. But my guess is I don't think you'll

574
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: see Matt Patricia on the staff, and I think based

575
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: on what a lot of people are writing, I think

576
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: we will see Joe Judge. Yeah. And you know it's

577
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: it really is interesting because if you go back a

578
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: year before last year, you know what Patricia was doing

579
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: was mostly in scouting and personnel, putting in platforms, actually

580
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: hiring people, putting in systems in place, and all that

581
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: stuff analytics. And I was surprised when he went back

582
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: to coaching, because I thought that was the trajectory he

583
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: was on. But now I'm also surprised that both Elliot

584
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Wolf and Matt grow is still here. I thought one

585
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: would leave, you know, because it's getting to be crowded.

586
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: So now I think the fact that Elliot's still here,

587
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: maybe there's not room for Patricia. Maybe there's no place

588
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: to go back to. Maybe, you know, since that year,

589
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: Elliot's done more and Matt's done more and we don't

590
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: need a third guy here, you know. I don't know. Again,

591
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't know. I'm just well, what

592
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: about Evan Roston came with Matt Patricia too from Detroit?

593
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Is he going to stick around? You know? Is he

594
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: part of it? And I mean you brought that up,

595
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: Fred about he was kind of doing some stuff behind

596
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 1: the scenes personnel, Like how did that stuff go? Were

597
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: they happy with that stuff? Is this part of the

598
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: reason too, why maybe it didn't either. I don't know.

599
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: I just I mean, there is a part of me

600
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: that that finds it hard to believe that he would

601
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: just be out based on like like you're saying, like

602
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: you got he put in the position. Maybe he asked

603
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: for it, maybe he didn't, but you know, we all

604
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: felt like, man, he's in a tough spot right here,

605
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: and then he fails and then he's like completely out,

606
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: Like I just I get the contracts stuff. That the

607
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: way you said that too, though, because I do want

608
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: to say, like, this is not like a personal thing,

609
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: like I don't think it's fair what happened to Matt

610
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: Patricia last year, but at the same time, you know,

611
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: it is something that he ended up doing and if

612
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: he like if Fred like to use the and I

613
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: don't like using every day, every man analogies because I

614
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: don't think they ever work when you compare sports to

615
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: real life. But to use Fred's analogy, if Fred goes

616
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: to me and says, well, we need you to do

617
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: the video, I would say, I have I don't know

618
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: how to do that, yeah, and I can't do that

619
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: right now. If Fred says, well, it's either that or

620
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: you're out of it. Job again, real life is different

621
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: than sports. Like if I'm sports and I've made millions

622
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: of dollars as a former head coach, I say, see if, if,

623
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: if that's my only option now, if Fred says the

624
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: only option to stay on is to do video, I'm

625
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna I'll have a video for Dummy's book tomorrow and

626
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I'll do the best I can because I can't afford

627
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: to just be out of work. Well and keep going

628
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: with it too. And Fred says to you, and I

629
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: got this hot shot young producer video guy that you

630
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: know is really important to us. We really want him

631
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: to develop and you know, develop into a leader. I

632
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 1: need you to do it. You know, it's like it's

633
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: it's not even just taking you out of what you're doing,

634
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: You're also putting a lot of responsibility on me. The

635
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: more I think it like I was on board, I

636
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been. You just don't really like I want

637
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: to kill you for this, but I can't because I

638
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: just don't think that you were really on board. No,

639
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: I just think you wanted to believe in the franchise

640
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: that we've all believed so strongly in for twenty years.

641
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: I really still do value the experience that any head

642
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: coach has in this year, in this league, and I

643
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: think it's unlike anything else and I think that, you know,

644
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: to take that and then move down. I think it's doable.

645
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: But that's coaching. That's just coaching. This being an offensive

646
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: coordinator and like you said, you throw that in there.

647
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: Having to develop this kid is a whole different set

648
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: of skills, you know than just coaching the old line. Yeah,

649
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole different thing, especially where you know,

650
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean I hate getting into like generational and millennials

651
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but I mean, you know, he

652
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: there is I mean, Matt Patricia in the league a

653
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: long time, cut his teeth going with you know, Junior

654
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: say out Teddy Bruski, old school kind of football guys,

655
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's just another layer to the

656
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: challenge of you know, trying to motivate kids these days,

657
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: and you know, what makes them go? How do you

658
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: how do you you know, get them to perform at

659
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: a high level. It's it's a whole other can it geteah?

660
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: And you know, like you can say that, like Teddy

661
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: Bruski and Junior say out how much coaching did they

662
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: require from Matt Patricia? You know, yeah, probably not a lot,

663
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, And that's like, and I think to your point, Fred,

664
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: like I think last no, and you know, I think

665
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: this is all I just I can't help but feel

666
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: a little bit bad from appetriction and still feel like

667
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: he has value to offer the game of football in

668
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: some capacity and right now he's just being killed by

669
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: everybody because of this. And look, I'm not trying to

670
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: say that he shouldn't be or that last year wasn't

671
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: a disaster. It's just hard to look at a guy

672
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: who clearly has absorbed a ton of football from some

673
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: of the greatest football minds, some of the greatest football

674
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: players over the last twenty years and say like this

675
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: guy sucks and should be out of the league. Like

676
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: I just, you know, on a personal level, I just think.

677
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: And I would even argue to back up the rest

678
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: of your point, and this is like really, you know,

679
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: impossible to prove because it's not going to happen. But

680
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: I would make an argument that the offense could be very,

681
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: very similar next year and it will not be attacked

682
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: the way it was this year. They will they will

683
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: not be vicious attacks on Bill O'Brien. I disagree. I

684
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: think he's under a lot of pressure. This offense looks,

685
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: but this year, the way it did last year. I

686
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: think people will be here with pitchforks and torches for who,

687
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: for the for Bill Belichick, Okay, Bill O'Brien, and for

688
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. We'll see. We'll see what they have for

689
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: We'll see what they have for weapons. You got to

690
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: divvy it up. It's it's tough oul. Mac. If he

691
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: if he, if they have the same cast of characters

692
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: back on offense, you gotta get him, Chase. He keeps

693
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: saying teflon Mac, and I still hear on his shows

694
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: the people who call in are at least fifty fifty

695
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: on that subject, that Max's not the guy. Wait a minute,

696
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: I hear that all the time. Are you comparing like

697
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: the calls? Yeah, the callers, Okay, the fans, the people

698
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: who spend the money to come to the game. That's

699
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: not a cross section of the people. The people who

700
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: call those shows, yeah, are almost entirely negative. Okay, Well,

701
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: because because you're talking to you talking about media people

702
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: were the people who cover the team. I'm gonna have

703
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: a round table in my living room. You can come.

704
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Matt Who else am I are

705
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: you listening to about this? I don't I get about

706
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: the media. This is not this is not hard to understand.

707
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the media. Like Tom Curran said,

708
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: you could trade Mac Jones over Robert Kraft's dead body

709
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: two days ago, right, Like, so he's accomplished so much,

710
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: you know that we can't even broach the topic that

711
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: if someone came to the Patriots looking to deal for Mac,

712
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: we can't even listen. Again, I don't care what the

713
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: media says. Okay, well that's the only talking about the

714
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: paying public. Okay, Well, you have no way of knowing

715
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: what the pay in public thinks. I do when they

716
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: call in the show that is over the top negativity,

717
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: Fred on Sports Radio, Come on, I'm saying it's fifty fifty.

718
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: It's not over the top. It's over the top negativity.

719
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: For the most part, the hosts are the host You go,

720
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: Matt Morrell, I see you in the uniform. The hosts are.

721
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: But a lot of the callers give their opinion and

722
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: I think it's fifty fifties. No, you have that opposite.

723
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: If you're gonna call a radio station, yeah, if you're

724
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: gonna take the time, yeah, you're not going on to say, wow,

725
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: what a wonderful job they did. People don't do that.

726
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: But the fact that it's fifty fifty, I think is

727
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: it says something. You know, it's fifty fifty after last year,

728
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: you think that's a positive. I think it is. What

729
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: it is, that's over the top all. I'm just saying

730
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: it should be a thousand percent negative based on what

731
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: they did last year on Mac. Yes, based on what

732
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: the offense didn't see. That's your opinion, based on what

733
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: the offense did last year. But now you look at

734
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: why and if you think it's Mac, that's my point.

735
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: That's your opinion. You think it's because of Mac. No,

736
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: I think it's because of a lot of reasons. Okay,

737
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: not just because of Mac. I think Matt, Patricia and

738
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: Joe Judge had a big part of that. Well that's

739
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: that's that's all part of the conversation. But I'm just

740
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: saying that, and I'm I'm giving you a prediction that

741
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: if the offense is similarly dismal this year, Yeah, it

742
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: will be about the lack of weaponry. That will be

743
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: the human cry if especially if they don't get any tackles.

744
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: I think I think there will protect them. I think

745
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: that will I think those people who are Mac. People

746
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: will say that absolutely, and those who now are saying

747
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: it's it's him will continue to say it's him. You know,

748
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta find these Max super fans. I don't.

749
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't haven't seen. I don't. I've seen a lot

750
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: of them. They're not allowed allowed. Well, he thinks that

751
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: everybody's a Max super fan. Teflon Mackie called him, Okay,

752
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about fans. I don't know why you

753
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: keep bringing up fans. I'm talking about the people who

754
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: cover the team. I know. But who can can you

755
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: name me one guy who covers the team that thinks

756
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: that they should move on from Mac Jones. I'd have

757
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: to look, I'd have to look at my notes. Um,

758
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: you know not. I think I think there are plenty

759
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: of New York giants beat writers that felt they should

760
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: move on from Daniel Jones last year. But listen, you

761
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: might be right about the about you know, the media,

762
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: but you know who's buckets of water they're carrying. I

763
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, but I'm telling you who. I

764
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: heard this in June. I heard the excuses start. I'm June.

765
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm just I know what happened. The agent was outstanding

766
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: and getting his message out there. So so when Zoe says,

767
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: I hope he's in the building, is that on his

768
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: own he's on a different He's on a different Okay,

769
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: that's a different water carrier. Okay, that's a different alignment. Okay,

770
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: all right, But but I'm just saying I think I

771
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: think in terms of just the zeitgeist, I think that

772
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: it's split on Mac. I don't I think it's even

773
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: even even on your zeitgeist. I don't think it's split.

774
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's seventy seventy thirty in favor. And

775
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: I think a lot of and by the way, I think, yeah,

776
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: well that's unfortunate, right, And that's unfortunate if if you

777
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: don't want indifference in apathy, that's even worse than you know,

778
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: the negativity. But I think, by the way, I think

779
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people who believe that most of the

780
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: problems were Matt Patricia, you know, the coaching and that

781
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: whole situation, also think Mac may not be the guy,

782
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's he didn't that's that's where

783
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: I would find he didn't rise above, right, you know,

784
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: I think he caused a lot of it. Yeah, that's

785
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: where I would find and I think a lot of

786
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: fans agree with it. I got yelled at today by

787
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: somebody in the building for saying that, By the way, okay,

788
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: it's a guy who loves absolutely every player in the

789
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: NFL except for one who's largely considered one of the

790
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: greatest guy who's ever played in the NFL. David Bethlen's

791
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: spread is naive. Judge and Patricia should go. Other coaches

792
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: will feel their shadows. Players will too, not just Mac

793
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: in their set for comparisons leagues intentional or not. Paul

794
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: is right, Judge can't stay in his lane turn the

795
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: page right. Do you think though this year, like I

796
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: feel getting into training camp, I'm having seen last year

797
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: as an example of bad offense that I'm more educated

798
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: to see what happens at training camp. Like, like last year,

799
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: you could just tell how clunky it was right from

800
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: the get go. I think this year, you know, with

801
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: the Bill O'Brien, I feel like you have something to

802
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: compare it to. It's hard last year, you've only seen

803
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels offense. I think that's a great point. We've

804
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: seen the best and we've seen pretty bad now, so

805
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: now let's see where this falls. You know, we've got

806
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: a pretty good That's why when I started this whole kerfuffle,

807
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: I said, it's it's going to be impossible, because there's

808
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: no way it's going to be the same. I mean,

809
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: it's going to be better because you have a competent offensive. Cord,

810
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: and I do agree with your point, Paul. I mean,

811
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about the weapons thing. But I

812
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: think I think that there's plenty of us out there

813
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: that are saying it's too early to move on from him.

814
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: But this is a prove it year and he's up

815
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: against it. And I think next offseason, if he doesn't

816
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: have a great year, you'll there will be a very

817
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: vocal kind of group that is like, let's get moving on,

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00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,239
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1047
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna do another question now, So

1048
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: whoever dedication whoever? It's the first person who emails in

1049
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: the correct answer, You'll get there info. Okay, um, okay?

1050
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: Next question? What pro Football Hall of Famer once told

1051
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: Andy to day off steroids? Wow? Can and can I

1052
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: get some background? This? This is when I didn't I

1053
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: hadn't heard I wait to kick give him this hint.

1054
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: But but just like what plus I gave you the answer. No,

1055
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just curious what made this player

1056
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: particularly happen to be in the building. And he was

1057
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: if he could show up into the show. He was

1058
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: sitting right where he looked at Andy and said, you

1059
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: got this guy seems like he might be one. Okay,

1060
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: full disclosure. Fred and I spent a decent portion of

1061
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: the interview making fun of Andy for being a juicer.

1062
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: And then when the when the gentleman got up, he

1063
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: sort of patted Andy on the shoulder and said, stay

1064
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: off the juice. Well that's an all timer. Yeah, talk

1065
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: about right? Is that accurate description? It wasn't just that

1066
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: like he came out of now Bndy was so aggressive

1067
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: where he was, but at some point he just just

1068
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: kind of looked at him, stay off the juice, and

1069
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: it was on shriveled up little. This guy looks like

1070
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 1: he's on a lot of answers, but none of them correct.

1071
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: You should try to lose some weight. A lot of

1072
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: answers handing out tips to everybody. None of them correct

1073
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: so far that I got, yeah, you need a new hairstyle.

1074
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: Nobody correct yet, nobody correct yet. Okay, so we haven't

1075
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: had any of the old schoolers chime in yet, because

1076
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: like Christian, this is right up Christian's alley. Yeah, none

1077
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: of them correct, so this is good John, John and

1078
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: La would get that this is a good question. The

1079
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: poor people listening after the fact, not live, Nick, Nick Chester,

1080
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: he would get that. A lot of our old school

1081
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: guys would get this. Yeah, Mike and Puerto Rico. Yeah,

1082
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: so we'll um, we'll keep this one open. Let's see

1083
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: it's twelve fifty five, We'll keep it open to like

1084
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: one fifteen because we'd want to do another one. And

1085
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: at if at one fifteen no one's got it right,

1086
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: we'll give the answer and we'll do another one. Yeah.

1087
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: I would have to think like Eldred and Todd, they

1088
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: would all know the answer. And I think we've taught

1089
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: about it since then. It's not like it happened and

1090
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: we never talked about it because I'm I'm a little

1091
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: bit worried now because I don't like being the guy

1092
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: that comes up with trivia questions that people can't get too.

1093
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: That's lame. Well, you did you hold high high value?

1094
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: While we're speaking out about listeners, real quick, if I may,

1095
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: I spoke to a class at UNH last week, we

1096
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: had a listener in the class. His name's Caleb, so

1097
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to give him a shout out because he

1098
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: told me if I did, I would surpass Paul as

1099
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: his favorite cast member. Okay, shout out Caleb. Alex is

1100
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: now Caleb's favorite cast member. Alex, you did not do

1101
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 1: that properly when you said you spoke in a class

1102
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: at UNH last week. You should pause and freda sniff sniff,

1103
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: because that's kind of like name dropping, like you know,

1104
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, take a moment too. I spoke

1105
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: in a college. I spoke at a class. I molded

1106
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: some young minds. Yeah, via zoom a little sniff, give

1107
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: you questions about pu about things behind the scenes. No,

1108
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: it was like a follow up LinkedIn message or Twitter

1109
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: message something I see by Socie is teaching a class

1110
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: at Emerson. From what I understand, Yeah, he's had um

1111
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: a couple of people on already with him, you know,

1112
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: to visit the Clapp Brad Fellman Voice of the Revolution

1113
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: and uh, somebody before maybe Mike Reeses. I think Mike

1114
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: Reeses came by and like a media class, spoke to

1115
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: the class. Yeah, no one uniform. Oh now we didn't

1116
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: give it. Not a company guy didn't give one. I

1117
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: wasn't here. I got to bring up your thing about

1118
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: L two though on the kick off, that's amazing. Were

1119
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: you listening, Evan? Are you listening earlier? Of course no,

1120
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: he does. Oh well, he has to make sure, you know,

1121
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: we don't say yeah, otherwise we end up on his

1122
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: grievance list. No one talked about your doctor. But I

1123
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: think he realized the microphone's way over there. It's not

1124
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: ready for me yet. All right, let's Evan's here? Hi, Evan, Hello,

1125
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: my goodness, what's going on with the microphone over here?

1126
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: There you go? I don't know. You don't have a

1127
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: chair or you do have a chair, dude. All right,

1128
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: let's get to the phone. Five hundred marks and Bolton,

1129
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: what's up? Mark? Well, so, I am an example of

1130
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: the paying fan, um god willing fifty four years of

1131
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: paying season ticket holder of this year, um so. The

1132
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: main narrative on maxed Outburst and Arizona or Buffalo was

1133
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: that he was a selfish, whiney bitch and you know

1134
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: the old time pathk Edelman jumped in on that in

1135
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: the local media, certainly and mockingly so one of the

1136
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: afternoon shows with a whiney back and all that. Um,

1137
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Mike takes a little bit different in that it was

1138
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: not only Mac that looked bad because of the coaching malpractice,

1139
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: but the offensive line looked bad, the wide receivers looked bad,

1140
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: and then running back looked bad. So I think the

1141
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: team supported and encouraged Max out first, and the team

1142
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: has Max back and not Bill. Um so I mean

1143
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: Craft blot and Billy Oh, I mean, I don't you

1144
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: know to refuel Mac. And I think Bill's hands off

1145
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: on Mac. And Bill has no penancess of the doubt

1146
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: anymore from the craft. So it's interesting. That's That's where

1147
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm at on it. And I know, Paul, you're really

1148
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: in on the other camp. No, I'm not. I think

1149
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: you made a lot of good points. I think you

1150
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: had a strong call. I think the only there's a

1151
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: couple of minor things that I would push back on,

1152
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: but I think your premise is right. I think that

1153
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: the team is more behind Mac Jones than Bill Belichick

1154
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: certainly showed publicly, would you, I mean, I don't. We

1155
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: can't comment on what Bill Belichick shows privately, but publicly

1156
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: he had a number of opportunities to really back. I mean,

1157
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: he really never did right to say so, I don't

1158
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: think anything Mark said right there is like blatantly wrong.

1159
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: I think he's probably onto something. Yeah, yep, okay, well

1160
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm generally a line of command guy.

1161
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm a certainly no kid not

1162
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, I certainly believe and I think Bill is

1163
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: just a fantastic, you know, game day coach. Um. But

1164
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: I think he's lost his way here. Um, and I

1165
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: just think that he's you know, he's had some bad moves,

1166
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, from from Brady um, you know, along down

1167
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: the line. And this coaching decision was just I mean

1168
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: I went to camp several times and it was clear

1169
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: that I mean, people were running unabated at the quarterback

1170
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: and you could tell there was frustration all all across

1171
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: that team, and uh, you know, it just got worse.

1172
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: And this whole Zappy thing really drives me nuts too. Um.

1173
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a he's a shorter, less athletic mac

1174
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: and he's redundant. And you know, if they can if

1175
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: they can move on from him from the mid, guy

1176
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: would do it. And if you want to have somebody different,

1177
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: then take a you know, take a project quarterback that

1178
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: has the physical skills and uh, you know, something that

1179
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: you can work with. It's different than the player that

1180
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: you have. Um you know, if that satisfies everybody's you know,

1181
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: itch like the afternoons show on a certain network, um

1182
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: to you know, have a development shows. All right, thanks

1183
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: for mark, appreciate that. I don't know, I belong to me.

1184
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: That be certainly a shorter. I think they're equally aft.

1185
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't think either one of them is an exceptional athlete,

1186
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: but he's shorter. Like I thought, he made a lot

1187
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: of good points. The one thing I would say is

1188
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people did poke fun of

1189
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: Mac Jones with his behavior, but almost all of them,

1190
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: including the one who does it the most, Jim Murray,

1191
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: always prefaces prefaces it by saying, you know, I'm granted

1192
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: he's right, but he didn't have to carry on like that, right.

1193
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: I think everybody says he's in the right. Everybody. That's

1194
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: one that I would say is one hundred percent. Yeah, yeah,

1195
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: Like everybody says there's no way he should have been

1196
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: saddled with what he was saddled with. I'd be in

1197
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: that camp too, By the way, um, I have a

1198
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: question for Evan. Actually I was thinking about this yesterday. Um, yep,

1199
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: that's right. It's February. I decided to start watching some

1200
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks in the draft this year. Where would

1201
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: you rank Mac if he was in this class? Just

1202
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: wondering that when I was watching, I always wonder why

1203
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: everybody does that, and not with Mac Jones in general, Like,

1204
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: I think it's important. I think it's important in a

1205
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: sense not to completely deviate from Deuce's point here. You know,

1206
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that as a no, no, no, change

1207
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: your job. I can keep it on Deuce's point. So

1208
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: I think it's important in the fact that Bryce Young,

1209
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud, Will Levis Anthony Richardson compared to Kenny

1210
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: Pickett and the guys last year, it's a good way

1211
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: to realize is this guy really a first round quarterback?

1212
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: Or is he just a first round quarterback this year?

1213
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: Because the quarterbacks are not very good, right, I think

1214
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: in this year's class, these are four legitimately good quarterback prospects.

1215
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: I do so. I think i'd probably have Mac fifth

1216
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: like I did when he came out, and I was

1217
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: wrong about having him below Zach Wilson, But I don't

1218
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: know about Trey Lance. I guess maybe I was wrong

1219
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: about that too, But I feel like he's probably in

1220
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: the same spot because those other four just have a

1221
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: higher level that they can reach with development than than

1222
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: Mac does. I mean, Anthony Richardson's toolsy quarterback that's way

1223
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: more raw than Mac coming out, but he's so toolsy

1224
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: that that's got a higher ceiling he just does. Yeah,

1225
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: that's what I found myself, just you know, thinking about

1226
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: and I mean part of the reason why asked the question,

1227
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: but just you know, it's Bill took the guy that

1228
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: feels very Bill Belichick like a low high floor guy

1229
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe very low ceiling. And you know,

1230
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: I just couldn't help but watching Will Levi's call him Levi,

1231
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: Will Levis and Anthony Richardson of just you know, two

1232
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: guys clearly their floor. Their floor is not you know,

1233
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: it's not a high floor like they they both have,

1234
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, some issues. But I just was watching. I'm like,

1235
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: it's just I think a lot of people would would

1236
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: love to see Bill with that toolsy quarterback, you know,

1237
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: and try to develop a guy that, hey, let's swing

1238
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: for the fences rather than you know, it's just we

1239
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: got Maggot's fine, but you know it doesn't have the

1240
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: excitement where you look at some of the plays that

1241
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm watching Richardson or Levis make yesterday. You know, like

1242
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: these things are appealing, like you can see in a

1243
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: perfect world, does will leve Us become like, you know,

1244
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: a Josh Allen type with that kind of size and

1245
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: you know the strength that he has, And it's, uh,

1246
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: you know that that's just where I was kind of

1247
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: getting out of the Little League is in a dangerous

1248
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: way with this though, because because Josh Allen really him.

1249
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: But I guess you could throw Mahomes and maybe even

1250
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert in the conversation too, because those guys have

1251
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: worked out so well. I think now the entire league

1252
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: is going to be forever. Yeah, I think there's some

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01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: merit to that argument. I think you're right, um, And

1254
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: I think there are plenty of guys that were quote

1255
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: unquote toolsy with size and strength and athleticism that didn't work,

1256
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, like JaMarcus Russell, right, Yeah, it's a similar

1257
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Yeah. Um, but I do think where

1258
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: I where I look at the mobility now, like I

1259
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: feel like there's been an embracing over the last five

1260
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: plus years of zone reads, RPOs, different kinds of things

1261
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: involving the quarterback that wasn't really prevalent, you know, say,

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01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: ten years ago. So that's where I think it might

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01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: be a little different. I think your point, I think

1264
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: your point is dead on, though. I do think that

1265
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: now everybody's gonna say, well, this one did this one? Dude,

1266
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: that's all you gotta do. You just you know, find

1267
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: a toolsy quarterback and develop them like it's yeah, like nothing,

1268
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: you know. The one thing about let Uh, I was

1269
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: gonna say, LEVI, I don't like the way he mocks

1270
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: us for knowing knowing these names. And I don't pretend

1271
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: to watch many I don't. I don't pretend to watch

1272
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: as many of these guys the way Evan does because

1273
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't and I won't. Um but um, you know

1274
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: from Kentucky, you know you know SEC. Yes, but you know,

1275
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of like j Cutler when he was in the SEC,

1276
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: like at a lower echelon program in the SEC, almost

1277
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: always going against vastly superior teams. Sometimes, I like those

1278
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: guys you know, that that are able to compete at

1279
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: a level they were able to lift their team at

1280
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: a level probably higher than their team is, you know,

1281
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: and you know, like Josh Allen at Wyoming didn't really

1282
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: get a chance to play a ton of those marquee

1283
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: games Levi's did, so I don't know, there's some intrigue

1284
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: there with with him. I think I would probably pass

1285
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: because I think he's a little too wild. But I

1286
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: watched the breakdown of the Georgia game and he was

1287
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: that was you know, consensus, people were saying that was

1288
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: what his best game was last year. I know, I mean,

1289
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: just it's just interesting. You see these guys and you

1290
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: can't help but be intrigued. I know your size and

1291
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: strength and just you know, it's I still really believe

1292
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: in the ability for a quarterback to throw the ball.

1293
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: It's like just the key to long jevity in this league.

1294
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: And that's why I think I'd be more you know,

1295
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: on Burrow than maybe just about anybody else other than

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01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes just as far as you know, I think Lamar

1297
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: Jackson and Josh Allen, like, yeah, they might thread the

1298
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: needle once or twice, but it's just I feel like

1299
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really hard and if you really want

1300
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: to sustain ten years of excellence and really have a

1301
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: shot every year. I continue to lean towards guys that

1302
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: throw and know how to throw and know how to

1303
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: process and can get the ball up. About ten more

1304
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: minutes left in the trivia question. Ohow, we're still waiting? Yeah, no,

1305
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: right answers yet I would have said it, um corny,

1306
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: I know what was the question? Oh what Pro Football

1307
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer once told Andy to stay off steroids?

1308
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: So that is the pro Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1309
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: Do you want any hints? We can Nope. If at

1310
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: one fifteen, i'd apologize. I thought that was a slam dunk.

1311
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: Evidently regulars are not listening. If we don't have an

1312
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: answer at one fifteen, we'll do another question. Evan, I

1313
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: noticed you're not wearing a T shirt. I'm not. I

1314
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: didn't get the memo you think you're better than everybody.

1315
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: I love funny breaks out as Jackie Mason. I don't

1316
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: know where either, well I have brought it. It's a

1317
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: Star Wars teacher. I needed to hold one up. Well,

1318
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm wearing the collar shirt today because Deuce and I

1319
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: are doing some some video after this, so I wanted

1320
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: to look nice for the camera, and I did not

1321
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: get the memo on the T shirts. You got three

1322
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: o'clock shoot for that. Yeah, they're done with So you're

1323
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: gonna be doing a video mock draft. No, well, we're

1324
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: gonna take our two mocks and we're just gonna kind

1325
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: of talk about them and break down. Yeah, he'll tell

1326
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: me how wrong I am and how everybody will be

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01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: off the board by the time I selected them, which

1328
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But but you know, a little discussion before

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01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: the combine. We're excited to head out there. We should

1330
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: we do a little competition deuce first Evan whose mock

1331
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: draft ends up being more accurate. I think we definitely

1332
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: big boards. We could do big boards, big boards. What

1333
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: are the steaks? Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about the

1334
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: big boards a little bit though of what might be

1335
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: fun will be you know, we can obviously talk Top five,

1336
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: but finding the guys that we differ on, because I'm

1337
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: sure there's gonna be a good chunk guys that we

1338
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: have the same winner has to buy the other person

1339
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: lunch at Jersey Mice. I mean, that's not even lose,

1340
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: that's a healthy I can't getting on that too. Fred

1341
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: Fred's ruining future trivia questions. Right, let's go back to

1342
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: the phone. Sean's in Vancouver. What's up Sean? Hey, everyone,

1343
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: I have one comment and one question. Uh, Paul, I

1344
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: am a long time listener and listening from the beginning,

1345
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: just my memories, poor us. So I'm sure I heard

1346
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: it and forgot. Yeah. Probably, I'm sorry, that's okay. I

1347
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: just hate I hate the fact that we have a

1348
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: question that no one gets the answer. No, it's fine, Yeah,

1349
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: well I have my questions here. Now. I understand according

1350
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: to the CBA that coaches or anyone associated with the

1351
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 1: Patriots can't lead any workhouse. But can the Patriots have

1352
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: someone they suggest as a personal trainer to a player

1353
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: that maybe has a relationship with the team. Yeah, Tom

1354
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: House okay, well Alex. Yeah, so they can say Tom,

1355
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: you know you worked with him, and Tom could go

1356
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: back to some of the pot but it can it

1357
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: can only be a suggestion, right right, But they can

1358
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: communicate like Tom Cow can communicate with the Patriots. Well,

1359
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: oh yeah, how's how's he doing? Yeah? You can report back? Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect?

1360
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: All right? Thanks, all right, thanks Sean, Thanks Sean. Um oh,

1361
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: while Evan's here, we were talking, well, I don't know

1362
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: if we brought it up in the show, but top

1363
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 1: Matt Castle came up with his top quarterback list. What

1364
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: did you think of that? Evan top quarterback list in

1365
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: the NFL or in college? I didn't. I didn't see

1366
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 1: you didn't see it. I didn't see ranked the NFL

1367
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and I think five, I mean and behind both

1368
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: And this is the one that really stuck out to me,

1369
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: behind both Brock Purdy, yeah, and Trey Lance. Oh well,

1370
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: how did you know what? Trey lances? Right exactly to

1371
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: Trey Land shouldn't be on the list because he's just

1372
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: in complete agre. I agree. And where I'm guilty on

1373
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: some of these things is when I see something like that,

1374
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't even look at it to break it down

1375
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: because I'm like, well, that's silly. Yeah, Like the guys

1376
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: played like three games in two years. I mean, he's

1377
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: probably played like five games in six years, you know,

1378
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: So like, how can you say because he didn't play

1379
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: the COVID year at day? But I'm just talking about

1380
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: as a pro, Like I know he hasn't played it

1381
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: at like a full season of football though, since like

1382
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. So I didn't I didn't really take the

1383
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: list with a whole lot of you know, and I

1384
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: like Matt Castle. He's one of our favorites. I feel like,

1385
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, but not not to Matt Castle. And then

1386
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: like you know, Sims always does one of these lists too,

1387
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they have Arlovsky doing them now on ESPN,

1388
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: and I like it. I like when you know, like

1389
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: they're all they're all quarterbacks. They know a little bit

1390
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,799
Speaker 1: of what they're talking about, Like Chris Simms will always

1391
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: have one Evan where it's like, um, you know, Mahomes

1392
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: will be one. You know, maybe Alan will be two,

1393
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: Burrow will be three, and then like some random like uh,

1394
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, Dak Prescott would like fourth, you know,

1395
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: like a good quarterback though, wait, what one of these

1396
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: things doesn't belong here? Like he's always a way out

1397
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: of the box guy would be in the top. Well,

1398
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: I remember, so he's had an okay track record with

1399
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: drinking draft eligible quarterbacks Sims. Oh yeah, and uh, you know,

1400
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: he's not always right, but he's no one's always right,

1401
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: so he's as good as anybody. Added And I remember

1402
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: he had I think he had Mac two. He liked Mac.

1403
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: I remember, like Trevor Lawrence is everybody had Trevor Lawrence one,

1404
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: and I think he had Mac two and he was

1405
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 1: one of the few people that had Zack Wilson pretty

1406
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 1: low and he ended up being right. So yeah, I

1407
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: think that you know, they have an eye for it

1408
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's go to uh Colin in Kansas City.

1409
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: Hey Colin, Hello, hello us. How are you doing? Hello?

1410
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: Hello Colin? Um? I want to say um I called

1411
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: last week. I'm not here to talk about that topic,

1412
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to shout out to Douce in

1413
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: front of Fred, just to say that Deuce is really

1414
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: improving and kind of being the host when you're out

1415
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: of town. Okay, improving. Appreciate good, good, No, but you

1416
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: got to give Mike. You're getting better miney. You have

1417
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: to give him a lot of credit because we didn't

1418
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: know Fred wasn't going to be here on that day.

1419
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, I appreciate that. Thank hold that thought. Matt.

1420
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: Okay he uh, Paul kind of harumped me a little bit,

1421
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't. I really didn't mean to,

1422
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: So that wasn't really my intention. Someone called last week

1423
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: saying that I had shot you down or something, but

1424
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: I didn't really mean it that way, so that's probably

1425
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: just me being snarky like always. You know, I've kind

1426
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: of settled. I'm not gonna get into the debate over

1427
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: the homes and Brady. I'm just gonna I'm gonna kind

1428
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: of rest on the fact that Brady is step to

1429
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: standard and I'm okay with enjoying how it plays out.

1430
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: But I had another question on the topic of improvement.

1431
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: As we're thinking about the draft and agency, I had

1432
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: a question for you guys, of the current players on

1433
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: the team, besides Mac Jones, who would you most Who's

1434
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: most likely to improve? And then the second part of

1435
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: the question is who do you want to improve the most? Yeah,

1436
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: I'd love to see col Strange improve. Well, yeah, I

1437
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: actually you know what, I'll break that. I'll break that

1438
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: question up. Colin most likely to improve, Cold Strange the

1439
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: one I want to improve the most. I like your

1440
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: choice of Thornton is the guy you yeah, most would

1441
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: like to see Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure what the

1442
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: answer to who's most likely is, though, I think don't

1443
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: you think Strange is an easy one? I mean, put

1444
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: some weight on you know, he appears on my research

1445
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: list yeah, only only one way to go for the question.

1446
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um, we do have a winner, not a question,

1447
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: Um Matt, hey girl, sorry Claire Cooper one wait wait

1448
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: wait wait, this is like her fourth guess. So I've

1449
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: been monitoring this. Okay, that's okay, I'm all right, I'm

1450
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: gonna give it to you, Claire. But going forward, you

1451
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: get one guess? Can you do the Claire voice? So

1452
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: can I ask? How long is the correct answer? Well,

1453
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: Howie Long is the correct answer? So Howie Long was

1454
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: sitting right where Alex is right now, and Andy was

1455
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: where Mike is and Fred's in his normal spot, and

1456
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: Fred and I were really needling Andy like throughout, like

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: he was like he thinks he could play. I'm looking

1458
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: he's bulking up, you know, like and we were like

1459
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: teasing Andy, you know because just little t rex arms,

1460
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: you know. And uh so he doesn't say anything, how

1461
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't say anything about like, you know, we're laughing

1462
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: and it was a fun interview. And then all of

1463
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: a sudden it's over and he gets up to leave,

1464
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: and he goes over and he pass and he goes, hey,

1465
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: stay off the juice. And I think he really thought

1466
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: that he was on steroids because Fred and I were

1467
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: busting his ball so much and take it from me,

1468
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties and raiders, right, I know that on the table. Yeah,

1469
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: so that was the answer, was Howie long Um and Claire.

1470
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: That was her fourth guest. A lot of people were

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01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: like Andre Tippett, Ty Law, Richard Seymour. They were looking

1472
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: at Patriots Hall of Famers. Maybe we could have put

1473
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: something in the question people, I know, but maybe something.

1474
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 1: Some people said Michael Irvin, Um, you know Rodney Harrison,

1475
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 1: but he's not a pro football Hall of Famer, so

1476
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: that was wrong. But yeah, I don't know how Claire

1477
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: got it on her fourth guest, but she got it Google.

1478
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: She has chat TPT maybe. Uh, congrats to Claire two

1479
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: two years today, she's been podcasting doing Patriots podcast. She's

1480
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: stuck with it for two years. So congratulations to her

1481
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 1: for her she's sticking with it. You know the struggle

1482
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: I do, only it'd only be a year and a half.

1483
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: It warn't from me. Yeah, I'm going on. I'm just yeah,

1484
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: ah nice, yeah, there go. You know, hey, Fred, just

1485
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: something to say for us as well as the listeners.

1486
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: We are getting some emails now about the combine next week.

1487
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: And I'm reading here that one Matthew jude On is

1488
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna be around on Thursday. It looks like at the Combine.

1489
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: So what it says he's appearing on Players Only Combine

1490
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 1: on NFL some show with Kurt Warner, Steve Smith Junior,

1491
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, Sean O'Hara, Maurice Jones Jrwe and Michael Robinson

1492
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: and they're doing it's going NFL Network. So they're doing

1493
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: some guests at NFL Network. So I guess maybe he's

1494
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: making appearance. So maybe if he's there, we can we

1495
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: can snag him and grab him and try to make something. Yeah,

1496
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: I can say, do him again and I'll remember me

1497
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: from Yeah, we had our Combine content meeting this morning. Uh,

1498
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: just talking about who's going to do what, and we'll

1499
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: have a crew over there with uh daily stuff. We'll

1500
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: have a catch twenty two emanating from the Combine. Uh

1501
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: so good stuff to look forward to, written video audio,

1502
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, we'll have we'll have it all. We're can't wait.

1503
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: We're excited. Yeah. Yeah, let's get back to the phone.

1504
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, we'll do another from your question again,

1505
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 1: um in a few minutes, So stick around if you

1506
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: want a chance to win a Patriots unfiltered T shirt

1507
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 1: that Evan's not wearing. I got the mad Castle quarterbacks list,

1508
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: though I got some gripes. So it's so fearing you

1509
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 1: up right, I got some gripes. You get back to

1510
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: it when you yell at Alex were saying you couldn't

1511
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: have a great Dan. Wait, if Eman loses the mock

1512
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: draft thing, he has to like, maybe baby sit a

1513
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: great Dan for a week. No, Chess already wants another dog.

1514
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: So no, we're not no second job. We're I'm less.

1515
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm less interested in who wins the mock draft. I

1516
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: I where I like the draft stuff, and unfortunately, Mike,

1517
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: you and I didn't have a lot of these last year.

1518
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: It's when you just sort of look at the positions

1519
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: and you pick the players and you're like, I really

1520
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: like Zay Flowers, I really like uh, you know some Johnson.

1521
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: You don't like him and I like him. Those are

1522
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: the those are the best ones, and we didn't have

1523
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: a lot of those last year. It kind of think

1524
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: it think it took away from our draft too. I

1525
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: think Matisse got all of them, like the random guy,

1526
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: but like most of the guys we talked about, like

1527
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: we all agreed on yeah, and I think it's better

1528
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: when you're like, no, no, no, I think this guy

1529
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 1: can really do this. I don't. I don't see it.

1530
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't like that guy, and then you see who's right. Yeah,

1531
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: those are the ones that's I think, what would be

1532
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: some of the we're trying to do that. We're trying

1533
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: to keep our prep separate, so we don't like I think,

1534
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: sometimes separate with me and Barth, we we we talk

1535
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: about draft prospects all day every day, and I think

1536
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 1: that sometimes we start to have grop think between the

1537
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: two of us where we both really like a guy.

1538
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: So I every once in a while, I have to

1539
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: remind myself that I can have an independent waste of

1540
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: it's fun. It's like I told I told them in

1541
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: this too when we got into the drafting, like I

1542
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: have to stay away from you during this because like

1543
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't want you to to poison the chalde. Yeah,

1544
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: Andy and I did the same thing. We never talked

1545
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: about it until we did the podcast. That's when we

1546
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: found out. But then it's great because then like you know,

1547
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: I'll finally come upon a guy and then he has

1548
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: created a Twitter thread like a month and a half ago,

1549
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, here it is okay, you know,

1550
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: but I was telling having a funny story early on

1551
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: the draft pre well, he goes from like now he's

1552
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: like me, I'm like, I don't know yet. I don't

1553
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: know yet. And then like the next day he's like, no,

1554
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: actually know everything deep dive on the wide receivers on

1555
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: the outside wide. Oh yeah, well the spreadsheet separated between

1556
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: inside and outside and receivers. That a break, right, you

1557
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: gotta find the rules. But a funny, little funny story. Yesterday,

1558
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: I was, you know, messing around watching some of the quarterbacks,

1559
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: I said, and uh, just other stuff, and I kind

1560
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: of came upon this Alabama running back and I was like, wow,

1561
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: this you know, kids pretty good. He looks explosive and

1562
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: then like swear to God, Like I literally just looked

1563
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: down at Twitter and you literally just tweeted out a

1564
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: video of him talking about like, what have you been doing?

1565
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: I think he makes fun of us. What Yeah, this

1566
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: is where I think he makes fun of Like, you know,

1567
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: I just came across this Alabama running back who was

1568
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: arguably the best player in college football last year. I know,

1569
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: it's bad nothing. No, I mean this is me. He

1570
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 1: discovered this is me. This is me yesterday, Like I'm like, oh,

1571
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: this Bryce Young's pretty, this guy's smooth. I mean, I

1572
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: get it. It's I'm making fun of myself. Literally watches

1573
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: like I know, you don't watch a ton of games.

1574
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: He like to make one of Alex. He literally watches

1575
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: nothing but the Patriots and that's it. But then like

1576
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: a curse to me now where I'm like, wow, this, uh,

1577
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: this National Championship game had some good players and maybe

1578
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: I should have watched that. That's the That's the thing

1579
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: that that always I always enjoy about studying the draft

1580
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: is how many times do I watch the same game,

1581
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: but I'm watching it different different, Right, So yesterday I

1582
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: watched Alabama against Case State for probably like the seventh

1583
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: time because I was watching a defensive end on Kansas State,

1584
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: and then Gibbs kept on flashing throughout the game, and

1585
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: I was just like, I know, they don't need a

1586
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: running back, but this guy's awesome. Instead of the most

1587
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: value when you start to get into the positions and

1588
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: now you're saying, oh, now I'm seeing this cornerback go

1589
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: against that wide receiver. That I already watched. I know

1590
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: how good he is. Yeah, how you know even that's

1591
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: when you can start to say and I'll write down,

1592
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm like stupid, right, Like it's one rep, one play

1593
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 1: in one game that I happen to see from two

1594
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: different perspectives, and you're like, oh, shut down, they don't

1595
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: hide it, but meaningless press. But then you dive into

1596
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: that guy. Well, yeah, I try this year. I'm really

1597
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: trying the hard the hardest that I can to watch

1598
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: guys against other NFL caliber players. I think sometimes you

1599
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: get into these these these guys and you're watching them

1600
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: against Apple Achan State, and it's like you'd be talking

1601
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: about a guard, right, and it's like, oh, well, no kidding.

1602
01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 1: You know, Jordan Addison looked great against you know whatever,

1603
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: random school insert random school, But then how does you

1604
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: know Utah? For example, Clark Phillips, a corner from Utah,

1605
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: is going to be a top fifty pick. So how

1606
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: did Jordan Addison look against Clark Phillips Because he's gonna

1607
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 1: be playing Clark Phillips in on Sunday for ten years?

1608
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: You know, Like those are two NFL caliber players, So

1609
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: I think that's important to me that happens a lot

1610
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: in the D line. You watch a guy and he's

1611
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: in the backfield every play, and it's you just realize

1612
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: he's going against the guy that he's just overmatching right now,

1613
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. That's why it's a little better you don't

1614
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: like everything else when you watch the SEC because a

1615
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: lot of those guys on both sides of the ball

1616
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: are gonna end up in the league. Yeah. The guy

1617
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: yesterday as well, I can't pronounce his name from Kansas

1618
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: State's one of those names, but he plays defensive end

1619
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: for k State and he was going up against Steen,

1620
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 1: the left tackle at Alabama, who's a draft eligible tackle.

1621
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: It's going to get drafted someplace, probably in the third

1622
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: or fourth round. And I was like, okay, you know

1623
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: the Kevin falkback. Yeah, he's good. He's kind of like

1624
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: Danny Woodhead, right, He's like, yeah, small, he's very explosives.

1625
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 1: He's good. If they if they really just want to

1626
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: target like a James White and not not Jamari Gibbs,

1627
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: who's going to go in the first round, but somebody

1628
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: that's going to go in the fourth round, then yeah,

1629
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: he's definitely on the shore list. Let's go to Isaiah

1630
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. What's up, Isaiah? I was looking at

1631
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: the mac Castle's Top twenty five, the top quarterback list earlier,

1632
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: and um, some things that like kind of really stuck

1633
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: out to me, was I gotta put up um all

1634
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: the people you screenteen to twenty four, you know, Rock Purtty,

1635
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: Carla Murray, Matthew Stafford, Ryan Tannehill, Jimmy g Andy Dalton,

1636
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and even like all the way up to

1637
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: nine through sixteen, they all got better weapons than Mac Jones.

1638
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: And I think if you were able to take mac

1639
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: Jones and put him on any one of those teams,

1640
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: I think it would be a top five quarterback in

1641
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: any regard. Top five that's high. Yeah, that's pretty high.

1642
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,759
Speaker 1: They had pretty pretty high. Yeah, but what sixteen or something,

1643
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: that's he's a far cry from top five. Yeah, you know,

1644
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: uh Andy Dalton was lower than Purty, I believe, but

1645
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: just just to look at it, you know, pretty seventeen Yeah, Okay,

1646
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: that's the one I've always stuck out there. Or even

1647
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: giving mac Jones, Devance Smith and A. J. Brown and

1648
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: the Eagles offensive line, I think, you know, it's pretty

1649
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: ridiculous to like kind of put him at twenty five

1650
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: in regard do you think you would have rushed for

1651
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: seventeen touchdowns? Yeah, I hear what you're saying, Isaiah, but

1652
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, just taking it on its face value, I

1653
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: had a hard time, like really making a compelling argument

1654
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: about the guys he was behind. He should be higher

1655
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: than twenty five. He should be. But hester, did Trey

1656
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: Lance play better than him in twenty twenty two? That's

1657
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: one that's did Ryan Tannehill play better than him in

1658
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two? Um, I don't know, like if we're

1659
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: just going off twenty twenty two, like a lot of

1660
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 1: these guys didn't play great. Stafford didn't. No, he didn't.

1661
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: But I I think that that wasn't Castle's criteria. I

1662
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: think he was just saying body of work problem. Yeah,

1663
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 1: and I and I get that. That's why I wouldn't

1664
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: be up in arms about it. But like, to me,

1665
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, he shouldn't be silly. I think the problem

1666
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 1: that I have with these rankings list is that it

1667
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: really should be tears. I know this is like a nitpick,

1668
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: but like a lot of these quarterbacks that Mac Jones

1669
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: is around I think he's in the same tier as

1670
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: but just because he's maybe two spots lower than him,

1671
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: isn't really that big of a difference. Maybe it makes

1672
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 1: you feel better if he's like eighteen, right, right, he's

1673
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: in that like the fourth tier like NFL starter, but

1674
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: like not a great you know great or whatever like

1675
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: way you want to preface it, the one startup, but

1676
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 1: still looking I had a grape with it, right, I

1677
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: think this Jalen Hurts being number two is recency bias.

1678
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: He's a really talented play I like Jalen Hurts a lot,

1679
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: but the second best quarterback in the league. You can

1680
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: make an argument in twenty twenty two maybe he had

1681
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: the second best year, but I totally agree with yeah,

1682
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: I think that's where like, how do you have him

1683
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: below Burrow or above Burrow and even Josh Allen Allen

1684
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: either But if you're going by twenty twenty two, he

1685
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: had a better year than both of those guys. But

1686
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: that's not what you know, he Fred said, that's not

1687
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: what is criteria. It didn't seem like Russell Wilson's pretty high.

1688
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: He had a miserable one. He can't have Russell Wilson ahead.

1689
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: I always look at this as like, if I was

1690
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: starting a team and I had the pick of the

1691
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: I could take any quarterback in the league, how would

1692
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: I rank the quarterbacks that I would draft? And Hurts

1693
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: is one of those players that's so hyper specific to

1694
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: the way they run their system and all, Like, I

1695
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: just I don't think that he's all things considered a

1696
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: second best quarterback in the league. Like, I'm not drafting

1697
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts in a in a draft number two overall.

1698
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: So what about Lamar Jackson? Does he fallen that I'd

1699
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: have him higher than Jalen Hurts would too? But but

1700
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: in terms of you have to pick a guy to

1701
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 1: start your team with, is Lamar Jackson high up on

1702
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: your list or no, I think he's in the top ten.

1703
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's in the top five. I

1704
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: would say Mahomes Burrow, Alan Herbert. I guess then maybe

1705
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: you start to talk about Lamar and Jalen Hurts at

1706
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 1: that point, you know, being somewhere in that five to

1707
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: ten ranges. Thanks, no argument, William and Philham. What's up? William?

1708
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: What's going on for color thing? Hey? How you doing? Alicia? Hey? Hey?

1709
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: Um so I just have two questions. One is one

1710
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: is a wide receiver question for Evan, of course, but

1711
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: in terms of the draft, and another one's but Evan

1712
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: and Paul so um I disturbs one answer. First, So, Evan,

1713
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: what do you think of um jail and Reef of

1714
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: Michigan speak really good Senior Bowl week? I yeah. I

1715
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: don't want to overreact to the Senior Bowl week too much, though,

1716
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: because it's one week of practice where he played really well.

1717
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I necessarily saw him as good

1718
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,879
Speaker 1: on his college tape as I did necessarily in mobile.

1719
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: So I think he's a solid at like third, you know,

1720
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: the end of the third round type of guy, though

1721
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: maybe fourth round. I agree. I'm fare so I got

1722
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: one one one I get back to work. Um so

1723
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: real fash. This one's for pulling you, of course. So

1724
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 1: what do you if we couldn't get t Higgins right,

1725
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: and y'all say, y'all would give up a first form,

1726
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: maybe Mike have to cost you a first and the fourth.

1727
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: What if you can get two receivers but you might

1728
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: have put draft capital towards and say that like Brandon

1729
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: Cooks is the third and then you get Um Jerry

1730
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: Judy you might have to add like a second or

1731
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: maybe just a second or a second or something. I

1732
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I don't know what y'all would

1733
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: think of that. If you couldn't get t Higgins then

1734
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: but you still have your first round pick to get

1735
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: your offensive office attack. And I'll leave it at that, y'all.

1736
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: Y'all take care of all right, thanks for you what love?

1737
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: I go first, I'll take Jerry Judy. Well. So the

1738
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: rumor was that Judy has been available. He was available

1739
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, and the rumor was that the

1740
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: asking price was a second and the fifth, and at

1741
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: the deadline, no, there were no takers for a second

1742
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: in the fifth. But I think it's actually a little

1743
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: crazy because that situation in Denver has been terrible, and

1744
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: he's performed when he's been out there, despite the fact

1745
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: that he's had a Drew Locke and Russell Wilson's corpse

1746
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 1: and all these other things going on at quarterbacks. So

1747
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. I would give up

1748
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: a second in the fifth for Jerry Judy. I would too,

1749
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't necessarily be interested in trading draft capital

1750
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: for for Brandon Cooks and Jerry Judy. Yeah, if you

1751
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: if you wanted to say, well, I can get Cooks

1752
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: and I don't have to give up the two. Yeah,

1753
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Judy for obvious reasons, younger, and I

1754
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: think higher upside at this stage. You know, I love

1755
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: him to go up Mount you know, I love Mount Cooks.

1756
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: But I think the second in the fifth is reasonable

1757
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 1: for Jerry Judy. I think so I do it. Yeah, um, okay,

1758
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: let's see Ryan in situate has a very negative over

1759
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 1: under game. UM games where Mac throws multiple interceptions with

1760
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: zero touchdowns over under one and a Hey, I'm gonna

1761
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 1: say under under. Yeah, if he if he just had

1762
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: multiple interception games, i'd say overweight. Correct, I would say,

1763
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: but to combine that with way, to combine that with

1764
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, I'm gonna say under. I think it's rare

1765
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: to have a no touchdown game period around here. It's

1766
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: a bad sign. Yeah, I go, I go, I go underway.

1767
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: I was only being John O. Smith touchdowns Hey just

1768
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 1: a half? Yeah, I don't really have Does it have

1769
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: to be with the Patriots? No? Because I think this,

1770
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: I think his Yeah, I think he's question he will

1771
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: have more than one touchdown this season. Well, all he

1772
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: needs just one. Yeah, you will have more of that,

1773
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 1: I will say over if he's here. I mean, I'm

1774
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: just Scott. I don't really hear anyone even trying to

1775
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: make the case that Bill O'Brien's gonna unlock Johnny. Oh,

1776
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: I've heard that. Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting to

1777
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: see how he employs the tight ends. I've heard that

1778
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: a million the tight ends on the roster better than

1779
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: what they've been able to show because of the coaching

1780
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 1: and this that, and then when you get into you know,

1781
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: I've gotten into a little bit with the tight ends

1782
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 1: in the draft, and people are like, well, why do

1783
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: they need a tight end? They have two tight ends

1784
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: on the roster. I'm like, are either of those tight

1785
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 1: ends scary? Like a, are you really worried about facing

1786
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: Johnny Smith on Sunday? Well, if you're an opposing defense

1787
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 1: and I'm not. I'm not totally sold on Michael Mayer either,

1788
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: but like like Dalton Kincaid, Michael may or whoever, if

1789
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 1: they feel like those guys are dangerous weapons, then that

1790
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't think tight ends Oh well, I mean not

1791
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: In the last year for Hunter Henry in his deal

1792
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean, John Smith, we don't even know. Maybe they

1793
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: could swing a trade and all of a sudden you

1794
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: don't even have a starter next year. So I mean,

1795
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: I I really wonder if that's a position that they

1796
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: that they tap and you know, do they do they

1797
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: go for just a weapon? Guy? Did they just go

1798
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: for you know, somebody who can run and get open?

1799
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: You know, like it's fine. Devin mccordy dropped interceptions with

1800
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: nobody around him. One and ahay is he playing or

1801
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: not that there's an assumption they'll have one if he plays?

1802
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Obviously under under yeah, I'll say under two and say

1803
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: under als. And finally Mac Jones and Bill O'Brien screaming matches,

1804
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 1: I'll say over that's a good? Is that what we want?

1805
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody wants to see that, right, everybody wants

1806
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,839
Speaker 1: to see just like a like a like a petulant

1807
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: Matt come on the sideline and just see Bill O'Brien

1808
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: laying down, like do we want that petulant man? All right,

1809
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: let's do another trivia question. All right, all right, hello, Jerry,

1810
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 1: let's see what should we do? Do one of yours?

1811
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: Don't do an andy shell shot? Getting too much Andy here. Okay, Um,

1812
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,799
Speaker 1: all right, UM, I know we've talked about this fairly recently,

1813
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: so I even though it happened a long time ago,

1814
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: we've brought it up several times in the show. What

1815
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: famously happened to Shane Donaldson during a two thousand and

1816
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl PFW in progress show, I don't think

1817
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: I know this one. Bonus points if he can tell

1818
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 1: me some other details about that show which made it

1819
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: different than most. What famously happened to Shane Donaldson during

1820
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: a two thousand and one Super Bowl PFW and progress show.

1821
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,560
Speaker 1: Was that like a special you guys did or was

1822
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: it just like from New Orleans? Yeah? I remember. Uh.

1823
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: We were actually set up outside like where the team ate,

1824
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: so there was a lot of player foot traffic. And

1825
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 1: after the first day Belichick said move those m efforts,

1826
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: so that we had to move into another room because

1827
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: we're out there saying I don't know if they're gonna

1828
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: be and you know, the players are walking by. That

1829
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: was like us in Tennessee with with poor Philip Door

1830
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: said on the bike behind us, this was way worse.

1831
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: This was like I don't know how they're going to

1832
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 1: shut And then like wal motivation probably said nobody believes. Yeah,

1833
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 1: did any stop and listen. No. Couple guys like guys

1834
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 1: that knew us and like us. They would like they

1835
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: would like pretend like, you know, like they were like

1836
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: on pins and needles waiting to hear what we said.

1837
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: So we'll will open the will open the web radio

1838
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: answer line until one forty five on this one. It's

1839
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: one thirty four now to one forty five. If anyone

1840
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: can answer that one. Well, So one of the things

1841
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: we talked about that I wanted to get to Fred

1842
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: we talked about on Tuesday was this notion that safe

1843
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: picks in the first round. Yeah, and I always sort

1844
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: of push back against that because I think that they're

1845
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: really I mean, if if it was really like that,

1846
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: I think more teams would do it that way and

1847
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: take their risks later when the stakes are lower. But

1848
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: obviously quarterbacks an exception, because well, like Kevin talked about earlier,

1849
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 1: there are guys that get drafted every year in the

1850
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 1: first round just because of that position. So that's a

1851
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: little bit different. But we talked specifically about tackle and

1852
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and I went back and I looked, I

1853
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: have the last six years of the draft. And the

1854
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: reason I did six, you know, to me, it's a

1855
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: five year sample. I did six because you can't really

1856
01:34:55,600 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 1: necessarily write the book on the twenty twenty two draft class, right, Um,

1857
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,959
Speaker 1: there really is no difference in the hit or misrate.

1858
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 1: The you know, the bust rate is in my opinion,

1859
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 1: exactly the same. But between the two positions in the

1860
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 1: first round is that we're saying it's yeah, it's obviously

1861
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 1: open to interpretation, but I think it worked out really well.

1862
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 1: There have been twenty four tackles taken in the first

1863
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: round since twenty seventeen. There have been twenty four wide

1864
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: receivers taken in the first round since twenty seventeen. Now

1865
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 1: I include undraft history. They had two tackles listed as guards.

1866
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: One was Rashaan Slater and one was Isaiah Wynn. Ironically enough, um, right,

1867
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: So those two guys I included with the tackles, even

1868
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: though they were listed at guard. Um. And I also

1869
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 1: have all the guards that were taken in the first round.

1870
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 1: There were there were six of them taken in the

1871
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: first round. How many of them were considered blue chips

1872
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 1: guards or any of these people you're talking about. Oh, well,

1873
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you what you know. So I'm just

1874
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 1: very rudimentary stat Pro bowls. Okay, you have Tristan Worth's,

1875
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: Penney Sewell, Quentin Nelson and Rashaan Slater and Chris Lidstrom,

1876
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: they've all made Pro Bowls, right, So on wide receivers again,

1877
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 1: twenty four wide receivers, taking that time, you have Pro

1878
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: bowlers there. There is Justin Jefferson, Ceedee Lamb, Jamar Chase. Okay,

1879
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 1: so it's it's similar in terms of that. Now where

1880
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: it becomes a little bit more difficult to evaluate is

1881
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: what you think of a tackle. And my contention is

1882
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 1: the reason why we all think the offensive line is

1883
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: the safer pick is when a guy doesn't work, you

1884
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: don't really know it. When a guy doesn't work at

1885
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Nikhil Harry, you definitely know it because there

1886
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: are numbers to tell you flat out. There's no subjectivity

1887
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: to it, you know. So I look at like this

1888
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 1: last wide receiver class, right, Uh, let's go twenty twenty

1889
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: one because you have two years Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle,

1890
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith. I don't think anybody would argue that any

1891
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: of those guys as a bust generational players. Right, Kadarius

1892
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: Tony was Shod Bateman. I would say, right now, I

1893
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: have them in the bold and my little list here

1894
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 1: as busts. You know, Rashod Bateman in eighteen games played,

1895
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: has sixty one catches for eight hundred yards and three touchdowns.

1896
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: His problem is he can't stay on the field. Yes,

1897
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 1: he's only played eighteen games in two years. But on

1898
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: the other side, when you look at some of these tackles, um,

1899
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: what do you think of Um? Let's see here Andre

1900
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 1: Dillard will right, one of their few. Austin Jackson, he

1901
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: was overdrafted at the time. Caleb McGarry also overdrafted at

1902
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 1: the time. I could have won. I could have lost

1903
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: a crap ton of money. If Mike said to me

1904
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: true or false Caleb McGarry was a first round pick

1905
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: in one in one year, I would have said, no, wait,

1906
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 1: I have no recollection of that guy either. Okay, these

1907
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: guys are what I put in bold as busts because

1908
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: I went back and I looked, and they're not even

1909
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: They either don't start, didn't have their option picked up,

1910
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 1: moved positions like Isaiah Win. Sorry, that's a bust. Yeah,

1911
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: that's a bust. You know, Alex Leatherwood, there were a

1912
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 1: lot of There were a lot sure, just like I

1913
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 1: would say Jalen Rager was was overdrafted. Colossal bust at

1914
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:37,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Yeah, I think John Ross overdrafted, right, So

1915
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: there are busts on both of these lists. To me,

1916
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,799
Speaker 1: it's the same. I actually have the exact same amount

1917
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: of guys bolded in both on both columns. Um and

1918
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, the most recent guys I think in An

1919
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: Evan sort of touched on this Tuesday. It's trending towards

1920
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 1: these wide receivers are being better quicker than they used

1921
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 1: to be. You know, like Drake London seventy two for

1922
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: eight sixty six four touchdowns. That's a solid rookie year.

1923
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, Garrett Wilson, we all know that he was.

1924
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: He was excellent. Chris Olave seventy two for ten forty

1925
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 1: two and four touchdowns, He's awesome. These are the first

1926
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: round picks at wide receiver. Evan Neil wasn't very good

1927
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 1: as a rookie. Yeah, you know, Trevor Penning got hurt,

1928
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 1: moved around. I think he had one start, you know,

1929
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: but Tyler Smith was really good for Dallas. He was

1930
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 1: the last offensive line I think the last tackle taken

1931
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: last year in the draft. So I you know, a

1932
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: Quonyu got out to a little bit of a slow

1933
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: start really rounded it to form for Carolina. So I

1934
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,719
Speaker 1: don't think there's a safe position. I don't think tackles

1935
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: any safer than wide receivers might. I think there's a

1936
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: big difference nowadays. Just it's I think that's a really

1937
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 1: good point of the development of the league. I think nowadays,

1938
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: these receivers and I would I think a lot of

1939
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,560
Speaker 1: people blame seven on seven and things like that for

1940
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 1: some of the bad things that are going on with

1941
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: football players. But I think the good thing is is

1942
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: that these receivers, and I would also throw a orderbacks

1943
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 1: in there, they are coming in so much more polished

1944
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: as pass catchers because they just they know how to

1945
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: catch the ball, they know how to contort their bodies,

1946
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: they know how to run routes. Like all these things

1947
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: are happening from the sixth grade on and they're doing it.

1948
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: You're they're playing seven on seven in the spring and

1949
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 1: then they're playing actual football in the fall. Plus I

1950
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 1: think the college game is throwing the ball more. Whether

1951
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,600
Speaker 1: it's out of an RPO or whatever you want. But

1952
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks are throwing more in college. These these guys

1953
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 1: are so much more natural pass But Paul, I applaud

1954
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: you on the time you took the research. However, at

1955
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: your homework. However, I believe we were talking about blue

1956
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: chip picks. No, okay, well I can go. I can

1957
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 1: give it to you in order. But those aren't blue

1958
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 1: ship guys that you're Isaiah Win wasn't a blue chip

1959
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 1: cornya O'Neil were in the top five. Isaiah Win wasn't

1960
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: a blue chip player. Okay, so eliminate him. But but

1961
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm going in order on you know whatever. Mada was

1962
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 1: a famously blue chip guy who failed. You know, so

1963
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 1: why was Trevor Manage a blue chip? What did he get?

1964
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: What selection was he taken with? He was high? It

1965
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:03,560
Speaker 1: was number one, he was a first round pick. He

1966
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 1: wasn't high in the round. No, No, I thought he

1967
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 1: was a blue chip though. He was like a can't

1968
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: miss guy. Okay, so again, that's what a blue chip.

1969
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 1: But you're attaching these nebulous terms. Who's calling him a

1970
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 1: blue chip? All the experts. I'm just going by draft

1971
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: selection like that. To me, is a blue like when

1972
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: when Ikakan you gets taken fifth. Yeah, I don't care

1973
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: if anybody called him a blue chip, that makes you

1974
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 1: a blue chip. Or he could be over picked over draft, Okay,

1975
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 1: like John Ross who was selected at nine was way overdraft,

1976
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 1: was strange, cold strange of blue chip? No, No, I

1977
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,599
Speaker 1: wouldn't say Cole Strange who was a blue chip? Okay,

1978
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I also didn't count to him

1979
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: in my listenings because he was just drafted last yet,

1980
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: but he was a first round pick and he would

1981
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 1: be on your list. Okay. Well, Traylan Burkes is a

1982
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 1: first round pick, two, he's not a blue chip. Well,

1983
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm just but I'm counting him, saying my counting. Usually

1984
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 1: Seod Bateman was a late first round blue ship. Linemen

1985
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: are safer bets than anything else, and usually, and I'll

1986
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: tell you why they're not to be so stubborn. I

1987
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 1: just gave you all the information something and a lot

1988
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 1: of times. And here's where I'll play on your side

1989
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 1: of the street. You come out as a blue chip lineman,

1990
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 1: you don't make you're not at all pro, but you

1991
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 1: last in the league for fifteen years Okay, See there's

1992
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. You're wrong. There's no data to

1993
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 1: support that. But these guys aren't getting their options picked up.

1994
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,600
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like sometimes that happens and they

1995
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 1: didn't really live up to their hype, but they had

1996
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 1: a long career, so no one calls it a bad pick.

1997
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 1: How's he, Andrew Thomas? You know, I'm just saying that's

1998
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: the way it is. So so basically, the guys that

1999
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 1: worked out a blue chips. No, the guys and the

2000
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:41,679
Speaker 1: guys that don't work out when they weren't blue chips.

2001
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 1: You're a blue chip before you're picked. Okay, but what

2002
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 1: makes you that before you're picked? The consensus? Right, So

2003
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 1: where you get selected is your consensus? Right? No, No,

2004
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: you're you're missing the point. No help me out here, Evan.

2005
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: There's guys. I don't think Evan's on your side, so

2006
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't ask him for help. There are guys who

2007
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: are tabbed blue chip before the draft. I think blue chip.

2008
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: To me, blue chip is about your raw talent level,

2009
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 1: right like, just in terms of upside, and I would

2010
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: I would just say just in general, I don't know

2011
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 1: if it's necessarily can't miss. It's more about just rod.

2012
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,560
Speaker 1: But I'll give you the But you don't become a

2013
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 1: blue chip based on where you're draying. I'll give you

2014
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 1: the period. The best example of a blue chip tackle

2015
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: coming out of college that I can remember in the

2016
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 1: time I've been doing this, Okay, Robert Gallery, and he

2017
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 1: was a whiff. That was a bus. You're right, You're

2018
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: absolutely right. He was a blue chip. He was a

2019
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 1: guy that all the experts said, Okay, this guy can't miss.

2020
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 1: But you're gonna do that for the other positions. Was

2021
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: it just tackle? No, you can do it for all

2022
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 1: the positions. So who are the blue chips and the

2023
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver category recently? You mean, yeah, well certainly wasn't

2024
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 1: nikkil Harry was justin Jefferson. Yes, No, I don't think

2025
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: he was a blue chip. Thank you, Evan, thank you.

2026
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he was. I liked him, but I

2027
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,799
Speaker 1: don't think the consensus was this guy can't miss. Okay,

2028
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: So these are these are the guys. The guys that

2029
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: missed on wide receiver for me are Kadarius Tony, And

2030
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,799
Speaker 1: again these are injuries, but Kadarius Tony, Rashod Bateman, Henry Ruggs,

2031
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Rager, Nikhil Harry, and John Ross. Those are the

2032
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: guys I had bolded as missing. Any of those guys,

2033
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 1: any of those guys blue chips? I mean, I guess

2034
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: I'll just have to ask Fred because we all have

2035
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 1: a different miss. I think Henry Ruggs was closed. His

2036
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: issue was not football, thank you. So okay, it wasn't

2037
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: because he was overdrafted or missed. But he killed people

2038
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Well that's but again, that's after he

2039
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 1: was drafted. I know. But he was a blue chip prospect. Okay,

2040
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 1: but and he he's a bust for reasons other than

2041
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: for But I'm just saying you earned the blue chip

2042
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: tag before the draft. Okay, Well, I agree with you.

2043
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: I just want you to tell me who the blue

2044
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 1: chips were because I don't know that. Yeah, all those guys.

2045
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 1: So my guess is that you would say all the

2046
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 1: guys like I could Kwan, he's panned he's panned out.

2047
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: So he was a blue chip? No like panay Sewell

2048
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 1: he was a blue Why do you say because I

2049
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 1: don't know who the blue chips are, It's it's based

2050
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 1: on the it's based on the no it's it's it's

2051
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 1: not tell me it's not based on how they did

2052
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,879
Speaker 1: after they're drafted. A lot of the blue chip consensus

2053
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,719
Speaker 1: ended up being wrong, like Gallery is a good example.

2054
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 1: But all I'm saying is the mis rate is very

2055
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: similar at all positions. That's all. I'm not trying to

2056
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 1: tell you I would take a wide receiver over a tackle.

2057
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: I would take a running back. I'm not telling you

2058
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: what position I would take. Well, I don't think it's

2059
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: a safe pick to take a tackle. That's the only

2060
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 1: thing I'm disagreeing with. Okay, I mean I'm gonna I

2061
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: don't want to get in the way. You guys doing this?

2062
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 1: Um why not? Why are you Switzerland now? Not because

2063
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: why you're only getting better and you're not good yet? No,

2064
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 1: because just improved, because I'm not too because I'm less

2065
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 1: interested and about what the safe pick is and what

2066
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 1: are the picks that you swung for the moon on

2067
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 1: the position and it helped your team, so you know,

2068
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:57,560
Speaker 1: and I and I have to look at it. But

2069
01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:59,759
Speaker 1: from what you were saying, it's like, all right, reshaunse

2070
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 1: later or he was a hit. How How are San

2071
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 1: Diego doing? How Jamar Chase was a hit. How is

2072
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 1: Cincinnati doing? You know, Like That's what I'm wondering, Like,

2073
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 1: but that's just but there you have a chance to take.

2074
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you have a chance. Though, from

2075
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Speaker 1: the Patriots perspective, how much is are we swinging for

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Speaker 1: the fence with a tackle? Are we swinging for the fence?

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Speaker 1: With Mike illustrates where my pushback originally comes from, because

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01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people with this is, oh, just you

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01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 1: go with the tackle, it's a safe pick. You'll plug

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Speaker 1: him infants in. You doesn't mean that you've solved a

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01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 1: position for ten years, because he's gonna play for ten years.

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Speaker 1: Whereas I might take Jamar Chase and I might change

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Speaker 1: my team. No, the upside, I could get Jonathan often

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01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:43,959
Speaker 1: and he can change my team. Obviously, that's a generational offensive.

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Speaker 1: One side of taking a skill position player and having

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Speaker 1: him pan out over a tackle or any lineman, it's

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01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,640
Speaker 1: obviously the ceiling is so much higher to take a

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Speaker 1: skill position guy and have him, you know, be the guy. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: that's just where I think we're at though, you know,

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Speaker 1: like that's what I think they need. It's like and

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01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 1: it's like, well again it change I get it. Change.

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01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 1: It's something sexy about Peter Skernski usual left tech, and

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Speaker 1: I get what Fred's saying, like, not all of these

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01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 1: guys don't come into the draft with the same like

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01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 1: they're not all blue chips. I I agree with Fred's

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01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 1: point on that, but it's a nebulous term to say, well,

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Speaker 1: this one was a blue chip. I think Pensul was.

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01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people said, he's he's pretty close.

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01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: He's he's like a can't miss guy. Yeah, that's what

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01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, Like in my like Trevor Lawrence was Sequon

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01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 1: Barkley was, you know, like there's guys that like everybody

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Speaker 1: who watched, but I would draft them, this guy is

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Speaker 1: gonna be great, And I would argue that the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of those guys turn out to be pretty good

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Speaker 1: NFL players, most of them. Yeah, yeah, most of them.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting, and that's why he had to change

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Speaker 1: it to most argue, Well, you mentioned gallery. You can't say, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's why I didn't say all of I said most

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Speaker 1: of I said, most of these guys are all also,

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Speaker 1: like notoriously one of the biggest bus in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of well, he ended up being a

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01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,639
Speaker 1: serviceable guard. But that's not what he was the bee, right,

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Speaker 1: But he came here here briefly wasn't here. Yeah, I

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01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 1: thought he's gonna come here and he's gonna be good.

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01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 1: And we looked at him and it's like, oh my god.

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01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 1: You know, he's moving like Herman Munster. But I have

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Speaker 1: I have a a rule. Okay, because this has been

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01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 1: bugging me a little bit our show, this show, people

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Speaker 1: call in and not to disagree with your point, Paul

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01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: and your great research here the fourteenth overall pick out

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01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 1: here so often they need to take a wide receiver. Oh,

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01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that you need to take a wide receiver.

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01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 1: That that's you know, I hear that right, or or

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01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 1: that's that's what the focus should be on wide receiver,

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01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I have a new rule. If you want

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Speaker 1: them to take a wide receiver in the first round,

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01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 1: you need to put a name on it. Yeah. I agree,

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01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 1: because if you want to take a wide receiver in

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01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: the first round in this draft, I don't know if

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01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm on board with you. I don't know I'm right

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01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: with you. There's too many people. Let's say they need

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Speaker 1: to take a cornerback well, which corner that right, and

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Speaker 1: I'm totally on board with you guys, and I just

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01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: want to state this sol it doesn't get you know,

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Speaker 1: misrepresented down the road when we're actually drafted and we're

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Speaker 1: picking what we want and arguing no, no, What I'm

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Speaker 1: saying is, I'm not opposed to take a tackle at fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't want to take the fourth or

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Speaker 1: fifth tackle at fourteen. But if the guy that you

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01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:18,600
Speaker 1: really want is that, you know, if it's like Scronski's

2141
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 1: off the board and Paris Johnson's there or whatever, you know, sure, yeah,

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01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 1: I would just push back and saying I'm not taking

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Speaker 1: a tackle because I think there's less of a chance

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01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 1: of the tackle busting than another position, because I think

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01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:34,719
Speaker 1: that the rate of bust is very similar other than quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I just think that when it comes to the blue

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01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: chip in that whole comment, and I think this relates

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01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 1: to the Patriots with wide receiver in the first round,

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01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 1: the guys that I consider to be blue chippers are

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01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 1: guys whose flaws are not big enough that it's going

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01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: to make them bad NFL players and make them busts

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01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to. Like Jamar Chase, there's very

2153
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 1: few flaws to his game, but the one or two

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01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 1: things that you could nitpick with his game are not

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01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 1: greater than the ten great things about him. Right. Uh,

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01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 1: you know, I think Jamar Chase, I think Waddle, I

2157
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 1: think DeVante Smith. I think those guys all checked out.

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01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 1: I thought last year that the two Ohio State guys,

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01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,799
Speaker 1: Wilson and a LaVey were can't miss blue chip type players.

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Speaker 1: Tell me the one in the draft that's that's that?

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Speaker 1: Like that, who is who is this year? Who's DeVante

2162
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 1: Smith in this draft? Right? I don't think that's why,

2163
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 1: And that's why. I think you just have to you know,

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01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 1: you have to be true to the board, right and

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Speaker 1: you can't get caught up. But there might be a

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Speaker 1: lot of metcast and safest draft there might be. But

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Speaker 1: I think it goes back to when Mike said, where

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Speaker 1: would Mac Jones rank among quarterbacks in this draft? Where

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Speaker 1: would Jordan Addison rank in last year's wide receiver class?

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Speaker 1: Because right now I think a lot of people have

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01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison as maybe the best receiver in this second round.

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01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 1: He would not be in the top three for me

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01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 1: even in last year's draft, And I think that that

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Speaker 1: does matter because you're picking him like he is the

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01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 1: number one receiver in the draft, in the fourteenth overall.

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Speaker 1: See where I say it doesn't matter and I you

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Speaker 1: just articulated it perfectly, but and it's a hard thing

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Speaker 1: to do. I would have him ranked within the class,

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Speaker 1: not within the wide receivers. I wouldn't take Jordan Addison

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Speaker 1: because I think he's the best. He's the best receiver

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Speaker 1: in this class. And I have to take a receiver. Well,

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Speaker 1: if I have n'im ranked fifty fourth, right, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not taking him at fourteen. That's that's just because he's

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Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in the class and I have

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Speaker 1: to have a wide receiver. That's my whole point. That's it.

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Speaker 1: We have a winner for the other. What did Shane

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01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,759
Speaker 1: Donaldson famously do during the two thousand and one PFW

2188
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: Progress Super Bowl. He fell asleep on air like this, yeah,

2189
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 1: because he had really we went out and like these

2190
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 1: young kids, they go to New Orleans for the first

2191
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 1: time and they are ordered this really sweet and delicious

2192
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 1: drink called the Hurricane, and they have more than one

2193
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: and it hits them like a ton of bricks. And

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01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: he was literally on air when I heard did the winner,

2195
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 1: who's the winner? His head hit the microphone because he

2196
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 1: fell asleep. Ray Um Sanchez from Pennsylvania. Nice Ray, if

2197
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 1: you had the bonus points of what was special about

2198
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: that show? That's unlike most others. Uh. Fred and Brian

2199
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 1: went to the YouTube press conference and left Paul by himself.

2200
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 1: Or you're writing solo and Shane fell asleep. Yeah yeah,

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01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 1: um so, Ray, email in your home address, you know

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01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 1: your postal address, and also your T shirt size and uh,

2203
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: Matt will send you out of It was actually kind

2204
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 1: of a funny story. Brian was like talking to me,

2205
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:36,600
Speaker 1: It's like, you think you think Fred would mind if,

2206
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 1: like I'd really like to go to the YouTube press conference.

2207
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 1: It's you know, I check that out. He goes to

2208
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 1: Fred and goes Fred, huh um, it's like a YouTube

2209
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: you want to go. Fred was like on the first

2210
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: ship out of town, and I was like, okay, like

2211
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: and and all, honestly, I have no interest in you two.

2212
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: So like, you know, I pulled the I pulled the

2213
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: Alex and Evan oh worried about it. I'll do the show.

2214
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 1: I'll talk L two. I got L two for you

2215
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 1: right here. I'll break it down and then Shane falls

2216
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 1: asleep in the middle of the show, like he literally

2217
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,759
Speaker 1: hit Yet you must have a good five minutes of screaming.

2218
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not doing I was like, hey,

2219
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this alone. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Jack

2220
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 1: and Ann Arbor says the poster child for blue chip

2221
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 1: failure was Tony Manders. That's who I meant by Trevor Manage.

2222
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 1: I meant I thought because Trevor Manage was a patriot. Yeah,

2223
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: he wasn't bad, That's why he was a bust. I

2224
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 1: was talking about Tony Maner. I'm not able. Men who

2225
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 1: knows who Tony Manders is? What? Oh? He was like unbelievable, Alex,

2226
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 1: And he was like unbelievable from the day he was born.

2227
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:52,839
Speaker 1: His father like groomed him, my god, and it worked, Alex,

2228
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: Like I sometimes I just need somebody like you know,

2229
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 1: I need that like Tony reality fat check guy sometime.

2230
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 1: Address was the guy who was on the cover of

2231
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, right, just like any of these people are

2232
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 1: my head is spaying. You don't know that man Rich

2233
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 1: was on the cover like like he was supposed to

2234
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 1: be generation alignment, like he was want to be the

2235
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 1: next great and he was Michigan State. He was on

2236
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 1: so many steroids and he couldn't play. He was I

2237
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 1: always kind of grouped him with Brian Bosworth. I felt

2238
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 1: like that was similar high guys that I mean, I know,

2239
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 1: different sides of the ball, but just similar guys on

2240
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 1: the on the Bosworth played for a little bit, you know,

2241
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 1: until he got run over by bo Jackson see that.

2242
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: But that's kind of like my thing. Like Mandwich like played,

2243
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 1: he just couldn't play, but no one knows because he's alignment.

2244
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 1: And the other one, he says is Ryan Leaf, who

2245
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 1: was a blue chip failure. Well, there's there's a lot

2246
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: of blue chip failures, but there's more blue chip successes.

2247
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: I think I watched the might have been a thirty

2248
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: for thirty on Todd Mirnovitch, which like I just couldn't

2249
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 1: get over that it actually worked, like as as terrible

2250
01:54:57,880 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 1: as his dad was and like forced him to do

2251
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: all all of this, Like he actually did make it

2252
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: to the NFL. You know, it's completely broken, but he

2253
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 1: did make it right. So now would take a step

2254
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 1: back and say if he had done it conventionally, that

2255
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 1: would you have been Peyton Manning, right, let's go to

2256
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: the phones before we wrap up the show. Darnell's in Florida.

2257
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 1: What's up Darnell already? Hey, how are you guys doing today?

2258
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 1: All right? Okay, So I got kind of a two

2259
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 1: part question for you really quick though. Um. Number one,

2260
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: do you think that it's going to be a lot

2261
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: different with Billy than the draft for him? And? Number two,

2262
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 1: do you think it's going that we have, actually, um,

2263
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 1: the less successful since Nick has left the organization? Its

2264
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 1: father's draft. And that's all I got for you, guys.

2265
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: Did you say you're less successful since Nick? I don't know.

2266
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: I felt like one one was up almost down. I

2267
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick runs the draft, and I think the

2268
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 1: drafts have been pretty sick. Yeah. And the question is

2269
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 1: what influence will Bill O'Brien have in the draft room.

2270
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like he's come from college, so what what

2271
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 1: has he done in terms of scouting? I don't know,

2272
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 1: but like I think that he'll they'll consult with him.

2273
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so yeah, I mean there's definitely

2274
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that he played against. Yeah, I hope.

2275
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be making the offensive picks. No, No,

2276
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 1: you know, no, but I do hope they lean on him. Yeah,

2277
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 1: but a kid like you've got a lot to you know,

2278
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 1: like to apostibly to. That's that's. Oh, no, you're talking

2279
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 1: about he just wondered like day three guys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's day three, but you know

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Speaker 1: he gets into your day three guys, Day three, maybe

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Speaker 1: he grabs you. Gonna get the ball. Alabama cla receiver

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Speaker 1: that you fell in love with last Kyle, Kyle what's

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Speaker 1: his name, Kyle Phillips. Phillips didn't work out slow loved him.

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Speaker 1: That was one of our new That was one of

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Speaker 1: our few conflicts. All right, UM, that's gonna be it

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Speaker 1: for this edition of Changing the Public As get going. UM.

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Speaker 1: Catch twenty two is up next with Alex and Evan UM.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure if you know you didn't want to

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Speaker 1: end the draft talk, it will continue on Catch twenty

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Speaker 1: two right after this. Congratulations to the T shirt winners.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep doing that throughout the offseason. So it's a

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Speaker 1: good reason to listen to the whole show. We'll talk

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