1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot Com. Hello and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm Sair Dowdy and I'm Deblin to truck Reboarding and Deblina. 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: We're going to pick up where we left up last 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: time with the Norwegian explorer slash diplomat Ritchie Off Nonsen, 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: and we've already talked on the last episode a little 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: bit about nonsense upbringing and his pretty impressive scientific studies. 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: His first adventures there was this trek across Norway on skis, 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: followed by another trek across all of Greenland on skis, 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: but baby part one in two exactly crazy part one 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: and two. But where we left off last time was 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: aboard the from which was of course the ice ship 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: that Nonsen had commissioned specifically for this journey over the 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: North Pole. And in case you missed the last episode, 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: just to give you a little recap of his motivations, 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: he was operating under the observation that currents move east 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: to west over the Arctic Ocean, so he had helped 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: design this specially built ship that could withstand being frozen 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: in the middle of the ice pack and would be 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: purposely frozen into the ice pack, and then once they're 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: the plan was to sort of just ride the current 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: over the North Pole, or at least get really close 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: to it. And it worked, or at least the first 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: part of it worked. The From, which set off from 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: oslo In, withstood the ice and was comfy and cozy 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: to boot. It had a fully stocked library, as you 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: may remember, a windmill that generated light during those Arctic nights, 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: and a saloon. But after a couple of years at sea, 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Nonson was ready to leave the From behind. He had 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: realized that the projected four to five year trip might 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: take something more like six to seven years, and also 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: it was clear that the ship wasn't going to travel 33 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: far enough north to actually hit the pole. If he 34 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: were to achieve that record, he'd have to make a 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: dash basically head out with kayaks, skis, sleds, dogs and 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: just one companion. But there's a crazy part three to 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: this whole scheme. He wouldn't just be able to dash 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: out and then return to the coziness of the ship 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: with its windmill and its library and everything. Leaving the 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: From meant that he'd never be able to return to 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: it because locating the ship in the middle of the 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: Arctic wilderness and catching up with it again too, because 43 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: of course the ship would be drifting all this time, 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: would be impossible. So instead he was going to have to, 45 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: after trying to make it to the pole, find solid 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: land and from there try to locate a settlement and 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: hazard ice flows and polar bears and temperatures in the 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: negative thirties along the way. No problem, right, sounds easy. 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: But first, nonsen he never sets off without a plan, right, 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: So his first concern was who was going to go. 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: It was going to be either Nonson or Captain Auto 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: swa Edrop. He decided quickly enough that square Drop was 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: going to be responsible for the trip, so he would 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: stay behind, and Nonson was going to be responsible for 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the mission as a whole, so spare Drop would stay 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: with the from Nonson would go out on the ice, 57 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: he'd take along Yalmar Johansson, a famous gymnast who was 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: really good with the sled dogs and seemed like he 59 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: could hold up under the physical and mental strain that 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: they were going to say, it would be the major 61 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: qualification for your dash to the North Pole part. Indeed, 62 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: so we talked a little bit in the last episode 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: about how Nonson differed from many other explorers, how he 64 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: sort of considered the risks carefully. He observed nature the 65 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: whole getting purposely packed in the ice flow is one 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: good example of that, and observed natural conditions, and also 67 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: really learned from the people who lived in the north, 68 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, adopting things like kayaks, uh, and knowing when 69 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: to turn back to But I read some of nonsense 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: account Farthest North, which is uh, some worry of this 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: whole journey, And there's a passage that I think really 72 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: emphasizes the care that he took, and it's it takes 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: place when he's telling the men about his plan to 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: make a dash for the pole, and this is what 75 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: he writes. I impressed on them, however, that while it 76 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: was unquestionably a fine thing to push on as far 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: as possible towards the north, it was no whit less 78 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: honorable and undertaking to bring the from safe and sound 79 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: right through the polar sea and out on the other side, 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 1: or if not the from at all events themselves, without 81 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: any loss of life. I mean, it sounds like not 82 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: the kind of speech you expect from the leader of 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: the polar expedition, who's usually like, let's do it, you know, 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: let's make it all the way, especially because you don't 85 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: think that the rest of the crew would be clamoring 86 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: to go exactly. I mean, I don't know if I 87 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: would be. Some of them were actually they really wanted 88 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: to go on the dash, but that he emphasized, uh, 89 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: try to stay alive guys. Seems like a really important 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: difference between him and a lot of his contemporaries. He 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: wasn't all motivational speeches, though. He also got really busy 92 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: getting together his supplies that he would need. In addition 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: to their regular scientific observations, the guys aboard the from 94 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: started preparing gear, started helping him get everything ready. This 95 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: included silk tents, sewing, sleeping bags. One person even copied 96 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: Johanson and Nonsense Journal and their research so that they 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: would have twice the chance the information would have twice 98 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: the chance, that is, of making it back to the 99 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: outside world. Nonsen, in the meantime, worked on building bamboo 100 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: frame kayaks, which were covered in canvas thirty six pounds 101 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: apiece and they really look kind of funny too. They're 102 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: they're not long and narrow like kayaks traditionally are because 103 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: they were afraid that something like that would get bumped 104 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: around so much they break their kayaks before they needed them. 105 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: But if you read far this north, this is kind 106 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: of the fun part of nonsense account, you know, getting 107 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: ready and all the preparations, and it's before the monotony 108 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: of the ice starts, where it's just cold day, one 109 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: cold day after another. Um At this point he's still 110 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: wondering if it will even get cold enough to warrant 111 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: bringing the wolf skin clothes he's considering, and he hosts 112 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: a big party to aboard the ship when it reaches 113 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: the highest recorded northern latitude. So there's sort of a 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: sense of anticipation and celebration at this point, but he's 115 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: also trying to psych himself up for what's coming around 116 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. He says, never before have I had 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: such strange feelings at the commencement of the new year. 118 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: It cannot fail to bring some momentous events and will 119 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: possibly become one of the most remarkable years in my life, 120 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: whether it leads me to success or destruction. Years come 121 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: and go unnoticed in this world of ice, and we 122 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: have no more knowledge here of what these years have 123 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: brought to humanity than we know of what the future 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: ones have in store. So heavy thoughts before embarking on 125 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: this journey, but it does take a few more months. 126 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: He has two false starts because they are so concerned 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: about having their equipment and supply to just be flawless. 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: But they finally left the From for good March fourteenth eight, 129 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: and they had twenty eight dogs with them, those two 130 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: bulky kayaks but lightweight kayaks, three fleds, and for a 131 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: very short time a few extra companions who just sort 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: of tagged along for a little while to wish them 133 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: wish them off well. Things got off to a difficult 134 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: start though. There were not as many level patches of 135 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: ice as they were hoping there would be these ridges, 136 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: and when they came across a ridge it would mean 137 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: they'd have to drag the sleds over the uneven surface 138 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: and then constantly disentangle all of the dog harnesses too, 139 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: And the dogs weren't behaving very well because they had 140 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: of course also been stuck aboard the From for months 141 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: and months and not getting all the exercises that exercise 142 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: that this tyle Library and Entertainment, the Windmill didn't do 143 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: it for the dogs, so they weren't too far in 144 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: when they had to kill the first dog, though it 145 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: was what Nonson called some of the most disagreeable work 146 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: they had to do on their entire journey. When they 147 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: killed the dog, they fed it to the others because 148 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: they needed something to feed the dogs anyway. They were 149 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: starting to run low and provisions and um, we'll talk 150 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: about this a little more, but his account of dealing 151 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: with the dogs and gradually having to kill them is 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: pretty heartbreaking and um it was one of the more 153 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: disturbing parts of his trip. It seems so Nonson and 154 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: Johansen themselves that would get so tired from this dash 155 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: to the poll that sometimes they'd fall asleep while they 156 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: were on their skis, but they still did maintain this 157 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: kind of routine. They would stop for the day and 158 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: Johansen would tend to the dogs, feed them, make sure 159 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: they were all, you know, tied up put away. Nonson meanwhile, 160 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: would pitch the tent and get dinner going, and then 161 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: they would just crawl into their sleeping bags while dinner 162 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: was cooking and thaw out. Nonson describes their clothes just 163 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: from the um I guess from sweat combined with little 164 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: drops of moisture getting stuck in their clothes would turn 165 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: them into quote complete suits of ice armor, which I 166 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: don't know that sounds really really uncomfortable because nonsense account 167 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: also expresses how they look forward to dinner. All day long. 168 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: They had three meals pemmican with dried potatoes, fish meal, 169 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: flour and butter, and pea bean or lentil soup. And 170 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: as a kind of nightcap, they'd have some white powder 171 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: in boiling water. In the morning they'd have breakfast, some 172 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: which sometimes included chocolate sounds better than fish meal, and 173 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: they would journal before they headed out. And they had 174 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: a plan too for going about this race to the pole. 175 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: Originally Nonsen planned to reach the pole or go for 176 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: fifty days before turning around, but by early April he 177 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: was starting to reconsider, starting to think they were going 178 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: to have to turn back earlier than that. So in 179 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: April eighth they decided they were going to have to 180 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: turn back, and they celebrated achieving at that point the 181 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: northernmost record. It was only two miles from the pole. 182 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: They had a big banquet, maybe a little extra chocolate 183 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: or way powder, or something, and Johanssen wrote that he 184 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: should have liked it if we could have got further. 185 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: It has our consolation that we have done what we could, 186 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: and that we have even lifted a little more of 187 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: the veil which conceals this part of our planet. So 188 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: kind of an understatement for disappointment. I mean, it doesn't 189 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: sound too bad. They must have been upset that they 190 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: couldn't actually get there. I was disappointed to what I 191 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: got to this point in the story because I really 192 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: thought that they were going to make it. But it 193 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: turned out to be a really smart decision for them 194 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: to turn around. Their new southern goal Franz Joseph Lynn 195 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: was six hundred miles away, and they had to get 196 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: there before the ice broke up, so they get stuck 197 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: on the ice. It was a race, so the turnaround 198 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: was easy. At first they had nice even ice to 199 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: travel on, but things got rough as the men were 200 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: driven off course by open handels and ice ridges. They 201 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: kept a break neck pace, though sometimes they went for 202 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: thirty six hour stretches at a time, and by mid 203 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: May there were only twelve of the twenty eight dogs 204 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: still alive. By June, there were only six left Nonson 205 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: at one point writes about how hard it was to 206 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: kill a dog that had actually been born aboard the 207 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: from um so when you know, a dog he had raised. 208 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: And the men themselves were at this point reduced to 209 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: eating a gruel made with the dog's blood and just 210 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: barely barely scraping by. They really didn't know if they 211 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: were going to make it. Um Nonsen writes about how 212 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: horribly he felt for treating the exhausted dog, you know, 213 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: just trying to make them keep going, because it was 214 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: a matter of life or death for the men. At 215 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: this point, he wrote, it is the sad part of 216 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: expeditions of this kind that one systematically kills all better 217 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: feelings until only hard hearted egoism remains. So by late June, 218 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: the slushy ice meant that the men had to start 219 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: using their kayak X, carrying the two surviving dogs on 220 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: top of their kayaks, so every time they hit solid 221 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: ice again they had to haul the kayaks up and 222 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: start over on foot. When they stopped for the night, 223 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: there was the risk that they'd drift north again or 224 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: a flow would open up by their tent, which you 225 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't want at all, No, because your tent could go 226 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: in the water, and the I use drifting north again too. 227 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: That erases any progress that you make during the day. 228 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: Rock Bottom was probably when Johansen was attacked by a 229 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: polar bear. You would expect that means that was the 230 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: end of Johansen. He miraculously survived the attack. The polar 231 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: bear hit his face and kind of must have grazed 232 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: it um and jumped on top of him before Nonsen 233 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: shot it um. Finally, to another Rocko attom moment, the 234 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: men had to kill the last two dogs. They shot 235 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: each other's. They hadn't use bullets on the dogs until 236 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: this point, but they didn't have the heart to to 237 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: do it anyway for these last survivors. Finally they reached 238 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: land after a whole summer of looking for it. They 239 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: hit an island and started to hop their way south, 240 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: hunting bears along the way. They actually got a taste 241 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: for polar bear cubs during this time and walruses. They 242 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: did not get a taste for walruses. That the statement 243 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: kind of ran together. They got a taste for polar 244 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: bear cubs, but they hunted both polar bear cubs and 245 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: walruses to be clear, but you can't island hot through 246 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: an arctic winter, so they had to make a camp. 247 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: So they used a sled runner to heck out a 248 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: little ditch and build a small stone hut with moss 249 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: lining and a walrus skin roof, and they modified their 250 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: sleeping bags to fit to and stored up on walrus 251 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: blubber and use that for fuel. So they lived in 252 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: what they called a den for the next nine months. 253 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: That's really hard for for me to wrap my mind around. 254 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: It's one thing to be aboard the ship that's frozen 255 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: in at least has the library and the little newspaper. 256 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: But to be in this hut for nine months, it 257 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: found very very bleak. But it also doesn't sound like 258 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: what you might expect. You might think that they would, um, 259 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: sort of go lord of the flies, start hating each other, 260 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: start bickering constantly, maybe go a little bit crazy. They 261 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: really maintained their sanity and their camaraderie to they had 262 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: this almanac with them. For a little bit of entertainment. 263 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: They would eat bear broth and bear steaks and blubber cakes, 264 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: which were a special treat. And um, this, I guess 265 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: this sort of show is how Nonsen still maintain his sanity, 266 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: but it's also a sad marker if this is the 267 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: best you can do. He wrote about celebrating Christmas by 268 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: changing his underpants and then using the old pair as 269 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: a bath sponge, and that was, you know, a real 270 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: celebratory way to mark the holiday for him. Shows you 271 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: what state they were at by this point. But by 272 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: mid May it was warm enough finally to leave that 273 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: hut and head south like in so months of hut living, 274 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: though meant that they were out of shape and pretty slow, 275 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: so they couldn't travel necessarily at the same pace that 276 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: they had before. At one point they almost lost their kayaks, 277 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: which at that point was their main method of transportation. 278 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: They would have been out of luck. And then by 279 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: June they were gearing up for an open water kayak 280 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: journey to Spitzbergen, and they were hoping that by doing 281 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: that they might find a ship along the way. But 282 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: on June sevent eight, ninety six, Nonson heard barking. By 283 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: pure chance, they had managed to run into the British 284 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: expedition of Frederick G. Jackson, and this is kind of 285 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: how their meeting went down. Jackson said, aren't you Nonson? 286 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: Nonson answered yes, I am, and then Jackson replies by jove, 287 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: I am glad to see you. Where have you come 288 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: from now? So Jackson's careful at this point though, even 289 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: while they're having this exchange not to mention the From 290 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: around Nonson and Johansson. He figures that they must have 291 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: been the only two survivors from some disaster. But miraculously, 292 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: only days after Nonson and Johansson returned to Norway, the 293 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: From and her complete crew arrived as well, having come 294 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: clear of the ice pack finally at almost the exact 295 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: same time. Pretty amazing, and it must have been especially 296 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: amazing to Notason, considering how long he thought that it 297 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: might take the From to get through. So this time, 298 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: with this whole reunited From crew back in Norway, Nonson 299 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: became an international celebrity. We talked about after his Greenland trip. 300 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: He was a pretty big deal back home, but this 301 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: time he's an international celebrity, and he started teaching oceanography 302 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: at the University of Oslo. He wrote Farthest North, the 303 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: one we've been quoting from a bit, and did this 304 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: huge lecture tour to support it, and just by the bye, 305 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: it kind of seems like farthest north is still like 306 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: a boy's handbook for young adventures in Norway almost. I 307 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: don't know if you could maybe kind of like into 308 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: the Wild or something like that. I don't know if 309 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: it's a false comparison, but something a lot of kids 310 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: in Norway still read today. Uh nonsense. Prominence though in 311 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: his country, came at a really great time for national politics, 312 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: because the country was ready to finally become independent from 313 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: Sweden and needed some kind of national hero like this guy. Yeah. 314 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: Nonson was actually part of the secret delegation sent to 315 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: Copenhagen in nineteen o five to feel out the Danish 316 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Prince carl On whether he was interested in becoming King 317 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: of Norway. The country achieved independence in nineteen o five, 318 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: and Nonson became its first ambassador to Great Britain, but 319 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: he didn't take his family with him. Ava by this 320 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: point had five kids with him, and she stayed behind um. 321 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: He always intended on returning to a Norway in a 322 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: short time, and when he finally returned to Norway in 323 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: nineteen o seven, his wife died suddenly of pneumonia. Their 324 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: relationship had actually been strained for some time. All that 325 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: living apart probably added a lot to it, but it's 326 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: safe to assume that there are two things we can 327 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: know about them, and that is that she very likely 328 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: helped keep him alive out on the ice. He wrote 329 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: of her a lot in his diary, and he had 330 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: promised her that he'd come back alive, and he was 331 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: intent on keeping that promise also without her. The home 332 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: life that he envisioned, five kids living together in this 333 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: big house didn't really happen until his children were grown 334 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: and married and he was old. Yah, his kids ended 335 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: up living more with relatives and friends while he embarked 336 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: on this really ambitious post explorer career, and he didn't 337 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: end up remarrying until nineteen nineteen. But so moving on 338 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: to that post explorer career, we alluded to it a 339 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: little bit in the beginning, and it's really impressive how 340 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: broad its scope. So it all starts though with World 341 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: War One. Nonson accepted that further polar explorations were going 342 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: to be an impossibility, so he got to work ending 343 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: the Allied Blackade against neutral Norway. He wanted at least 344 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: vital supplies like food and things to be able to 345 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: come through, so out of this whole thing he came 346 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: out of the war as the president of the Norwegian 347 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Union for the League of Nations. He was a huge 348 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: League of Nations supporter, and this is where Nonson's great 349 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: humanitarian career kind of kicked off. And it's a bit 350 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: strange that he got so involved in this world of 351 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: tricky post war negotiating, considering that he was by training 352 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: a scientist, and he he was interested in returning to 353 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: his science after so many years as a diplomat and 354 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: as an explorer. But he was also such a star 355 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: at this point that people from all over Europe were 356 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: willing to hear him out. You know, he was the 357 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: one guy who everybody was okay talking to. In he 358 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: went to work repatriating prisoners of war, people who had 359 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: waited for years for someone to help them get home again. 360 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: So who was going to be paying for this? Who 361 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: was going to be helping them? So when Notson was 362 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: appointed to the League of Sations High Commissioner or appointed 363 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: as the League of Nations High Commissioner, i should say, 364 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: for prisoners of war, Nonson helped return four hundred and 365 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: fifty thousand prisoners of war from twenty six countries, keeping 366 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: the cost to only about one pound per prisoner. During 367 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: his travels for the Pow job, he saw that many 368 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: in Europe were starving, especially in the Soviet Union. So 369 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: Nonson started to raise money for a relief, but he 370 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: found it difficult to get governmental support for the Soviets 371 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: governments weren't interested in, you know, by helping out the 372 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: starving people by extension, helping out the Soviet government. Nonson 373 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: turned to private donors instead, appealing to humanity over politics. 374 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: He was kind of like, these are just people who 375 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: need help regardless, don't have any politics. So he raised 376 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: enough money and gathered enough supplies to save and estimated 377 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: seven to twenty two million people according to his Nobel 378 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: Prize biography. Then in nineteen one, he used his experience 379 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: repatrioting POWs to start helping settle stateless refugees. So all 380 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: these people left after World War One with maybe not 381 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: a country or a country they couldn't return to. And 382 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: the first step was creating identities for a lot of 383 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: people who had lost their papers, you know, running away 384 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: from their country or in some kind of wartime trauma, 385 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: and we're just stuck in limbo, no papers, nowhere they 386 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: could go. So he formed something called Nonson passports, which 387 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: were eventually issued and recognized by fifty two governments, something 388 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: I thought was pretty remarkable, and they helped hundreds of 389 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: thousands of people resettle, including some pretty famous names like 390 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: Igor Stravinsky and Anna Pavlovo. We talked about both of 391 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: them in our Right of Spring episode uh Sergei, Rachmaninov, 392 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: Mark Chical, So a lot of big names and then 393 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot of other people too who were just stuck 394 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: with nowhere to go in the Greek government asked Nonson 395 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: to figure out an unsub hordable influx of Greek refugees 396 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: from Asia Minor after the Greek's defeat by the Turks. 397 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: So with the League of Nations approval, Nonson arranged a 398 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: swap of one million, two hundred fifty thousand Greek Turks 399 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: for five hundred thousand Turkish Greeks with compensation to start 400 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: new lives. And I think that was kind of a controvert. 401 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds controversial. It's easy to imagine, like 402 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: will switch our ethnic Greeks for your ethnic Turks, and 403 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: people will move from place that they've lived for maybe generations. 404 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: But it seemed to work in this case, and Nonson 405 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: ended up getting a lot of credit for it in 406 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: the end. Then, on December tenth nWo, Nonson won the 407 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize. His biographer Roland Huntford wrote that quote, 408 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: Nonson is among the few really worthy winners of the 409 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: Peace Prize, although he is probably the one who spent 410 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: the shortest time earning it. A Danish publisher actually ended 411 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: up doubling the prize money that Nonson got, and Nonson 412 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: spent it on Greek refugees and on to model farms 413 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: in the Ukraine and by the Volga, so he brought 414 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: them their first tractors in the area. It was a 415 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: big deal. And then by the late nineteen twenties knots 416 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: and began experiencing heart problems and on May thirteenth, nineteen thirty, 417 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: he died of a heart attack at home. He's buried 418 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: or he was buried May seventeen, on Norway's Constitution Day. 419 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: And I think it is important to mention that amidst 420 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: all of this nonsen of fandom sort of you know, 421 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: people who were willing from people from a lot of 422 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: different countries who are willing to work with him and 423 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: listen to him. He did have his critics. He was 424 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: accused by a lot of people of being a Russia 425 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: worshiper because he was trying to help people who were 426 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: starving there, and some folks interpreted that as him working 427 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: with the Soviets, and he did get some criticism for 428 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: that when he won the Nobel Prize. It was something 429 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: he worked hard to deny, you know, say that was 430 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: not his motive, but it was still out there. But 431 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: he did have a certain agenda. He had certain goals, 432 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: and I think appeal to people is best translated by 433 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: this quote that you have here on your outline. He says, 434 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: it is within us all. It is our mysterious longing 435 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: to accomplish something, to fill life with something more than 436 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: a daily journey from home to the office and from 437 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: the office home again. It is our ever present longing 438 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: to surmount difficulties and dangers, to see that which is hidden, 439 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: and seek the places lying away from the beaten track. 440 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: It is the call of the unknown, the longing for 441 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: the land beyond, the divine power deeply rooted within the 442 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: soul of man. It is this spirit which drove the 443 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: first hunters to new places, and the incentive for perhaps 444 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: our greatest deeds the force of human thought, which spreads 445 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: its wings and flies where freedom knows no bounds. Spirit 446 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: of adventure absolutely, and I think people of any time 447 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: can relate to this. I think so and wanting to 448 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: do something bigger with your life. And I think that 449 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: maybe the most interesting point of Nonsense life is he 450 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: is famous for being an explorer, but he ultimately did 451 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: do something bigger with his life than achieve a polar 452 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: record or something like that. A remarkable feat of endurance. 453 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: He went on to actually really help a lot of people, 454 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: and he did that by not dying out there on 455 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: the ice. But there's although I love this um how 456 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: he says home to the office and from the office 457 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: home again, it doesn't seem like for him ifice. Maybe 458 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: he worked in the lab for a few years, but no, 459 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: he certainly wasn't in a cube for any of his days. 460 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways to learn more about Nonsense today. 461 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: He is a really celebrated figure in Norway. There's the 462 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: fram Museum which is in Oslo, and then the fritchi 463 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: Off Nonsen Institute, which focuses on environmental politics and bio diversity, 464 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: those kinds of things. Or if you are actually an explorer. 465 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: Somebody can who can handle this, You can learn about 466 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: him by getting out there on the ice, and it 467 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: seems that a lot of people do just that. I 468 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: read a recent story about a Norwegian living in Maine 469 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: who had cross Greenland on skis, and he said that quote, 470 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: if you're Norwegian, you love to walk in the footsteps 471 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: of your country's explorers. And then there was another story 472 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: recently in National Geographic that featured two Norwegian adventurers who 473 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: were retracing Nonson and Johansson's polar trip using para sales 474 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: fortunately instead of dogs, but realizing that it was still 475 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: a really difficult journey and they knew where they were 476 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: going this time. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's 477 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: anything I would take on probably at any point. I don't. 478 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: Polar exploration has no real appeal for me. No, but 479 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't make for a really good story and a 480 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: really great podcast. So I think that's one that was 481 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: frequently requested as well, was it not? It was? And 482 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: really all sorts of these Polar Explorer episodes are very 483 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: frequently suggested, So let us know what once you really 484 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: really want to hear about, or they don't have to 485 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: be exploring ac regions that can be um any part 486 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: of the world. 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