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Speaker 3: The World's a vegetal podcast.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. I think the main thing is

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Speaker 4: doesn't look like him. Conquer that that's half the battle.

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Speaker 5: I can't help but think of Rocky three and mister

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Speaker 5: T and this with the statue unveiling.

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Speaker 6: And like Peyton Mann's gonna come crash this and like

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Speaker 6: hit on Tom Brady's girlfriend in front of us.

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Speaker 4: Tom has the jay Z song. Right, we can't humme

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Speaker 4: it or else we'll be soon.

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Speaker 7: The NFL network does not go on my TV at

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Speaker 7: this time of year.

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Speaker 4: But because I was becoming more like Eric too. If

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Speaker 4: James Pettiger wants to refer to himself as the most

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Speaker 4: interesting Patriots fan in the world, I refer to him

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Speaker 4: as that Fred doesn't refer to him.

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Speaker 7: But anyway, when the head coach talks about the tackles versatility.

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Speaker 5: But or we kind of in my head a little

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Speaker 5: or we could like actually realize what he's talking about.

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Speaker 5: When he says versatility, he's talking about versatility in terms

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Speaker 5: of the different blocks that he can make.

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Speaker 7: So like it's one way I looked at him. You've

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Speaker 7: decided what way it is?

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Speaker 4: Question for Evan and Paul? How special do you guys

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Speaker 4: feel being on Duce's training camp? Wrap up?

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Speaker 4: Podcast at Patriots dot com. James Pettigrew the most interesting

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Speaker 4: Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Let's Stadium,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna see my T shirt available in the

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Speaker 4: pro shop. Yeah uh, it's Thursday here at Chilet's Stadium

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Speaker 4: and we are still talking about yesterday's joint practice with

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Speaker 4: the Commanders. It was, I think, a good day for

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Speaker 7: What's this folder he's got going on right here? Yea?

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Speaker 6: I brought my further, I brought my father today to

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Speaker 6: old school Patriots little I'm allowed to have this, but

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Speaker 6: it has all of my practice notes. So I thought

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Speaker 6: it maybe if we choose to look back at some

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Speaker 6: of the practices. I can consult my notes and.

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Speaker 4: Tell you what I had, all right, yes, but we'll.

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Speaker 7: Be making fun of them. I brought my notebook for

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Speaker 7: the same reason.

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Speaker 4: We'll be talking about yesterday's joint. We'll be looking ahead

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Speaker 4: to tomorrow's preseason game as well as the Brady statue

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Speaker 4: one veiling at six pm live on Patriots dot Com.

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Speaker 4: There was a little snippet of a video that was

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Speaker 4: released on Patriots dot Com of the arrival of the statue.

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Speaker 4: Came in the dead of night a couple of nights ago.

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Speaker 4: I can't really see much, can't really see much, but

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Speaker 4: it's here. For the statue was here, so we're excited

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Speaker 4: about that. And Tom Brady will be here as well.

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Speaker 4: Alex is here, Duce is here, Evan's here, Paul's here,

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Speaker 4: I'm here, Matt's in the booth, and this is Patriot's

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Speaker 4: unfiltered Let's.

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Speaker 9: Go, Let's let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 4: All right, So I know, you know, we thought you

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Speaker 4: if you haven't already seen that, that is out there,

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Speaker 4: like last year against the Eagles, and they job. The

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Speaker 9: Yeah, really fun competitive joint practice.

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Speaker 6: Thinking back to some of the ones that we've watched

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Speaker 6: It felt like, yeah, they were terrible, but that last

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Speaker 6: That was kind of my takeaway from the Raiders this one.

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Speaker 5: I think now that I've slept on it a little bit,

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Speaker 5: I think what you saw was highly encouraging. I watched

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Speaker 4: They were able to exit.

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Speaker 7: A lot of energy. That was the thing I kept

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm not getting lost here, and I don't

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Speaker 7: I think that's what you're looking for. You're looking to

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Speaker 7: when they go to Minnesota. Stack them, as they tell

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Speaker 7: certainly I would think it's more than fair. The way

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Speaker 4: May stats as they were. There was even a perfect

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Pop dropped an open crosser too early on

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Speaker 4: The Wagon pick was tipped at the line. Now that's

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Speaker 7: No. I watched. I watched one of the periods I had.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they're just even getting here.

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Speaker 7: Because you were digs.

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Speaker 4: Because he was late to No, I was not.

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Speaker 10: I'd probably be riding in a cooler whip if I

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Speaker 10: But it felt like a game day driving in here yesterday,

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Speaker 10: I started working here, maybe back to the tom days

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Speaker 10: worse with this team this year, and then when they

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Speaker 3: Like you said, Evan, you came down. I don't think

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Speaker 10: Like I'm more encouraged by what I've seen all camp,

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Speaker 10: on the offensive side, And like Booty's catch with Latimore

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Speaker 10: then there's the lower tiers, like everyone is fighting for

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Speaker 4: You can take that a couple different ways, but I yes,

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Speaker 10: Take it in the way that like you have digs

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Speaker 10: Our tight ends are just always the least of my problems.

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Speaker 3: It was consolation prizes that we were looking for.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's not the direction I thought that was

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Speaker 12: Let's pick up or the best part of the whole thing,

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Speaker 9: In that's I was ready to die.

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Speaker 10: I heard, and can't no way to confirm this because

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Speaker 9: I mean, what will happen?

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Speaker 4: Drove him to the ground, I can't understand you getting.

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Speaker 7: And I think the first fight happened for the opposite reason.

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Speaker 7: He's not the best running back pass blocker. He's the

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Speaker 7: In the country any position, he said, he's the best

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nice, and then Campbell, that's.

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Speaker 7: What that's if you heard the way the Ohio States

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Speaker 5: There was an NFL coach that said he's the best

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Speaker 5: blitz pick up pass protector he's ever seen coming out

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Speaker 7: Let's go, Let's go, like Drake's never gonna get touched.

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Speaker 5: But like I know, it's like a disaminutia thing of

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Speaker 7: But like all Lachlan, I wanted to give him credit.

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Speaker 5: Like he won't play on third down if he can't

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Speaker 4: Him play, and right from the get go, because like

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Speaker 7: Goods had red shirt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they all sat because of pass protection, not

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Speaker 9: There is a weapon.

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Speaker 7: Y go to YouTube and you can get some enjoyment

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Speaker 4: Going to get a nice little present from Drake May

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Speaker 5: I can tell you that he's a player, man. I

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Speaker 7: I haven't seen anybody come close to covering him effectively yet.

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Speaker 9: It's just darts.

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Speaker 4: It's and so I know that all coaches, including Rabel,

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Speaker 4: I'm glad we got into a fight and I told

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure today or whenever they're talking about it,

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Speaker 6: Know, yeah, well you know, I mean Pop Douglas talking

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Speaker 9: But I think this just helps bring the team together

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Speaker 5: You gotta have that as an offensive lineman, like in

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Speaker 9: Right in the nuts.

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Speaker 6: You can see it though with Mankins, like you just

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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not saying this is the negative thing

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Speaker 9: Not quite the Maller like edge that you see.

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Speaker 10: You're right, it's like a funny like listening to Jared

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So that's uh, yeah, that's that stuff.

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Speaker 5: We're back talk.

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Speaker 9: I just want to talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 5: Well, no, it was really funny because I think this

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Speaker 9: Well it was me, Matt Doloff and and and so.

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Speaker 7: Do the fun stuff.

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Speaker 6: It was good for me because you know, like like

442
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Speaker 6: I see what I see, and I you know, confident

443
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Speaker 6: in what I see. But it's always nice to just

444
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Speaker 6: you know, compare it a little bit to to what

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Speaker 6: you already saw as well.

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Speaker 9: And I felt like we had you know, similar observations

447
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Speaker 9: and you know, just to highlight exact ERTs. That's an area.

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Speaker 7: Of question for me.

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Speaker 9: How are we going to be covering tight ends this year?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's been we spent a lot of time

451
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Speaker 6: talking about Duggers and Peppers, and I think the thing

452
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Speaker 6: with both of them is, you know, what's great and

453
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Speaker 6: they're playing downhill and seaball get ball, but you know,

454
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Speaker 6: really pure coverage snaps against the linebacker we know who's

455
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Speaker 6: coming here week one, that's a part of the defense

456
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Speaker 6: right now that have a little bit of question about

457
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Speaker 6: how are they going to handle covering the really elite

458
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Speaker 6: tight ends that they're going to face. And you know,

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Speaker 6: another thing that I think Mike highlighted, well that that

460
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Speaker 6: maybe I downplayed. I did mention it, but you know,

461
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Speaker 6: just they lost the edge a couple of times, and

462
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Speaker 6: that's something that there was at least one run with

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Speaker 6: I think was Robinson that you were just like, oh,

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Speaker 6: he gone.

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Speaker 9: So those are a couple of things to clean up.

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Speaker 9: But it did confirm the rest for me of you.

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Speaker 6: Know, because I'm looking at the stats and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: Jane Daniels didn't throw a touchdown yesterday. He didn't throw

469
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Speaker 6: a touchdown on eleven on eleven, you know, so even

470
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Speaker 6: if you just look at that simple thing, like that's

471
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Speaker 6: a nice little thing for the defense to come out

472
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Speaker 6: of that day. There were a couple couple of passes

473
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Speaker 6: where they were headed for the end zone but disrupted

474
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Speaker 6: the timing good tight coverage. So there was definitely some

475
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Speaker 6: some struggles early on. But I think we both saw

476
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Speaker 6: it in a similar fashion that the defense improved as

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Speaker 6: the day went on, and.

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Speaker 9: They gave Jaydan Daniels some problems, especially through the air.

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Speaker 4: And they didn't throw a touchdown with our best well,

480
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Speaker 4: Davis was out there right, no.

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Speaker 7: Two corners were out but Lawren too, that's a that's

482
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Speaker 7: a watchful. I thought the thing I was impressed with

483
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Speaker 7: was the pass rush. I thought that Barmore in particular,

484
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Speaker 7: but Harold andry To, I thought they had, you know,

485
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Speaker 7: a pretty constant presence. I did not see the struggles

486
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Speaker 7: for Jadon Daniels. I thought Jaden and Daniels was the

487
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Speaker 7: best player in the field yesterday, both teams. But the

488
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Speaker 7: thing I was most encouraged by was I thought consistently

489
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Speaker 7: they were getting penetration and getting into the backfield, and

490
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Speaker 7: we didn't see that a lot last year. I was

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Speaker 7: number one thing I came away in coverage.

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Speaker 9: I'm surprised by this, Paul. Usually I see eyed eye

493
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Speaker 9: with you on just about everything. I did not see it.

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Speaker 7: And I thought he was just so under control. I

495
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Speaker 7: was a little impressed with him. I thought he was

496
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Speaker 7: more of just kind of like an athlete who plays.

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Speaker 7: And now I'm looking at it and it's like he's

498
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Speaker 7: a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He was thirty years old.

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Speaker 7: He's one year older than Drake. He is he's almost well,

501
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Speaker 7: he's one year older than let's get it right.

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Speaker 9: There was a way to know, uh, thirty years old.

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Speaker 4: I know he's not thirty kid.

504
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Speaker 7: I looked at this, did I get this wrong. Well,

505
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Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure I looked at this on the face

506
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Speaker 7: he might it might be a year and eight months,

507
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Speaker 7: but like he's like, he's okay, so a year and

508
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Speaker 7: a half, Like I mean, is that really I mean

509
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Speaker 7: rounding up?

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Speaker 4: But he had the college experience.

511
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Speaker 7: The college experience absolutely, yeah, college for six years and

512
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Speaker 7: Drake was only in for three, right, that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 5: He is his release and his accuracy or off the

514
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Speaker 5: charts good. Like he's got one of the quickest releases

515
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Speaker 5: of any quarterback. Just and he he did this at

516
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Speaker 5: his bro day, Like you just stand on a spot

517
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Speaker 5: and he can just he can just humt it from

518
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Speaker 5: any like just like normal pocket quarterback stuff. Like he's

519
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Speaker 5: definitely not just a runner like he's he's a complete player.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's his poise that stands out the

521
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Speaker 5: most to me, Like he doesn't really make any wrong

522
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Speaker 5: reads or bad decisions. And he's also calmbat there.

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Speaker 4: That's what Paul said. He's under control.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he was really under control. Even the times where

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Speaker 7: like Barbo would flesh him and he would like start rolling,

526
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Speaker 7: he'd be just like because he knows he can. Yeah yeah, yeah,

527
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Speaker 7: And he did a couple of times were definitely there

528
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Speaker 7: are you know that's got a Simon McLaurin because Deepo

529
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Speaker 7: ain't good enough by himself.

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Speaker 5: I read some of their their beat just to get

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Speaker 5: the perspective of what they saw at the practice, and uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, there are some tweets that are going around

533
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Speaker 5: that you know, are contradictory to what some of the

534
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Speaker 5: Patriots people are saying. Obviously, you know, you look at

535
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Speaker 5: it through your own team's lens, but all of them

536
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Speaker 5: across the board were saying, you know, Terry McLaurin, is

537
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Speaker 5: the leverage that he has is only going up in

538
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Speaker 5: his favor because it's this is what's happening in their

539
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Speaker 5: own practices too, is that the receivers can't get open.

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Speaker 5: And they came here to for the joint practice and

541
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Speaker 5: they couldn't get open against our guys and Carlon Davis

542
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Speaker 5: and Christian Zalez aren't even out there and they can't

543
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Speaker 5: get open. So everybody's like number one takeaway from Washington

544
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Speaker 5: was they need to get Terry McLaurin back in the fold.

545
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Speaker 5: Like there's just nothing more money, there's no like.

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Speaker 4: Real, Yeah, they will be taking a step backwards this

547
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Speaker 4: year but getting back because they're not that good betting.

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Speaker 4: Getting back to Christian Barmore, I was one player. I

549
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Speaker 4: was watching some of the one on ones that he

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Speaker 4: was doing, and he was a man among boys times.

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Speaker 9: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean for all the attention, you know, excitement about

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Speaker 6: bringing Milt Williams in, I think we forgot about how

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Speaker 6: good Christian Barmore could be fully recovered from the blood coots.

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Speaker 6: And I think they took steps early in camp to

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Speaker 6: manage that a little bit. You could tell that that

558
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Speaker 6: they were still wary of perhaps a relapse.

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Speaker 9: With that kind of thing.

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Speaker 6: But right now having him go full bore in those

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Speaker 6: joint practices, I mean you could just see it. He's

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Speaker 6: he's a nightmare and night I just echo a Paul

563
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Speaker 6: said about Harold Landry guy questions about Tennessee let him go.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he had nine sacks last year. You knew

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Speaker 9: he was a productive guy. Is he on the downturn?

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Speaker 6: But he looks in shape, He's out there early, he

567
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Speaker 6: seems like he's really focused.

568
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Speaker 4: And he had one rep. I don't know who he

569
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Speaker 4: was going up against, but it wasn't all his strength.

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Speaker 4: The way he used his hands, it was like she

571
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Speaker 4: said Chuck Norris, Like not Chuck Norris, who's the other

572
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Speaker 4: guy that Chuck Norris, Bruce or whatever. But it was

573
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Speaker 4: Barbara hadn't even taken a step yet and he had

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Speaker 4: already rid himself of the guy, and he had a

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Speaker 4: clear path to, you know, up the middle. It was

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Speaker 4: just the handwork was looks like it's improved.

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Speaker 5: And I wouldn't This isn't like meant to be an

578
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Speaker 5: insult towards Melton Williams. But like Christian Barmore at his

579
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Speaker 5: peak is a better player than Milton Williams. Like Christian

580
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Speaker 5: Barber is a more complete three down player two years

581
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Speaker 5: ago than Melon Williams has been in Philly. So like

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Speaker 5: I agree with.

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Speaker 7: Duce, like I bio draft picked.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of feel like Barmore is because of

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Speaker 5: the blood clots and you know, there's always that weariness

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Speaker 5: of like can you trust it? Like he's gonna be

587
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 5: back and he's gonna stay healthy and all that kind

588
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Speaker 5: of stuff. But he's he's probably a more of like

589
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Speaker 5: a we gotta circle this guy in some respects in

590
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Speaker 5: Millan Williams, because he makes plays against the run and

591
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Speaker 5: the past and he's effective in both ways. So he's

592
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Speaker 5: had a great camp. I think every single time he's

593
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Speaker 5: out there, he's noticeable, even though it hasn't been you know,

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Speaker 5: full go for him.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like he's in good shape this year.

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Speaker 10: And this is just strictly the eye test. I haven't seen,

597
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Speaker 10: but he just looks healthier.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gone to three h five I think he

599
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Speaker 5: said from Mike three twenty, so he's lost some weight.

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Speaker 3: And to Williams, will probably just only helped.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, let's.

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Speaker 4: Go right for.

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Speaker 9: We're fortunate.

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Speaker 5: Did you have something snarky to say?

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Speaker 7: You can say, no, I'm gonna wait next week. We've

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Speaker 7: done enough the coach breaking up a fight at practices.

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Speaker 7: I'll wait till next week.

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Speaker 4: Wet blanket, wet blanket.

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Speaker 13: Oh.

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Speaker 7: I don't think fights aren't good.

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Speaker 4: I know, but it's the symbolism. It's the symbolism of

612
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Speaker 4: the instinct of jumping in there up.

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Speaker 3: That's what the Carolina was here a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 7: That was a bigger fight. That was a bigger fight.

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Speaker 4: Jeer in the middle of all of them, there was

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Speaker 4: one that that went into the state.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm the nicest guy in They had Matthew

618
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Speaker 5: Slater's back in a hurry in those Carolina practices.

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Speaker 3: That was a crazy practice, all right?

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Speaker 4: Eight five five Pats five hundred is the hotline podcast

621
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Speaker 4: at Patriots dot com. Is the email address? Uh So,

622
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 4: we're getting a lot of emails, a lot of calls,

623
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Speaker 4: So let's start emptying out these phone lines so other

624
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: people can call. We'll start with as we seems to

625
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: be a thing now, Nate and Connecticut. What's up, Nate?

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Speaker 7: Good?

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Speaker 14: Good question for you guys, is uh who has been

628
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Speaker 14: the like the vocal leader or like the guy who

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Speaker 14: like uh so, like cheers people at that. You know,

630
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Speaker 14: if a quarterback throws a pick or filling up a touchdown,

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Speaker 14: who's been that guy that picks them up when they're down,

632
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Speaker 14: or who's been the leader that you know controls the

633
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Speaker 14: pace of the practice or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good question? Is it Peppers?

635
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Speaker 7: On defense?

636
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Speaker 4: Would you say?

637
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Speaker 6: Maybe he's definitely one of the he's the rara guy

638
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 6: in the usually in the huddles. But I don't know,

639
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Speaker 6: I don't know why on offense, I would kind of look.

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Speaker 9: To Drake to be that guy. I hope it's Drake.

641
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Speaker 9: That's what it needs to be he.

642
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Speaker 6: Wants him to be that guy, you know, yeah, but

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Speaker 6: I don't see, uh, I haven't really clocked anything that's oh,

644
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 6: you know, Morgan Moses has taken the offense under his

645
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 6: wing after that bad series. I haven't noticed things like

646
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Speaker 6: that with with any of those guys. And I mean,

647
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Speaker 6: to be honest, he mention a couple of examples of like, oh,

648
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Speaker 6: they threw a couple of interceptions. I mean, there haven't

649
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Speaker 6: really been a lot of downtime and then we go

650
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Speaker 6: right back into a drill. Really the downtime for the

651
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Speaker 6: offense it has been the end of the last three

652
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Speaker 6: competitive practices, so there's not really a chance to see

653
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Speaker 6: them try to bounce back. Maybe those things are happening

654
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Speaker 6: behind the scenes.

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Speaker 5: I don't really feel like that's an offense thing in general,

656
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Speaker 5: like quarterback outside the quarterback obviously, but like maybe there's

657
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Speaker 5: an offensive lineman that's a veteran, like a David Andrews type,

658
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Speaker 5: that's like vocal, but defense is the one that like,

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Speaker 5: you know, Jabil Peppers comes in and gets everybody fired

660
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Speaker 5: up and like, you know, ready to play. I don't

661
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Speaker 5: really know if that's so much like you don't see

662
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Speaker 5: that as often as it's a quarterback like Brady going

663
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Speaker 5: up and down the sideline barking at guys.

664
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Speaker 4: Right, that's true. Sometimes receivers and yeah, because they want

665
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 4: the ball. They're more concerned with what I'm doing rather

666
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: than the team.

667
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

668
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Speaker 4: I mean I could see Bourne doing it, but he's

669
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Speaker 4: not out there right now.

670
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Speaker 13: You know.

671
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Speaker 7: There you go, Freddy, you to be on.

672
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Speaker 4: Board, Yeah, there you go. No, everybody, that's that's the head.

673
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Speaker 7: Bloody after jumping into scrum, wrong, wrong thing, me, Rambo,

674
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 7: how will you live? John?

675
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: First? Blood watching what's up? Patty?

676
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 7: Hey?

677
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 8: Patty?

678
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: First Nate and now me Travis and West Virginia must

679
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: be throwing a conniption fit right now. First, with the

680
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: t I A. N and myself met up yesterday and

681
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: we took him to practice and even before the scrum

682
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: that the place was electric, man, awesome break time. I

683
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: had a question about the dispenses back or not back

684
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: to the cornerback depth. I know, like we've been expressing

685
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of concern on some of the depth

686
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: on this scheme. To know that the position at cornerbacks

687
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: came up as as seeing a concern. But with the

688
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: quote unquote emergence of DJA Games and Alex Houston, Do

689
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: you guys feel a little bit better about the depth

690
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Speaker 1: of that position.

691
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 13: Not really.

692
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Speaker 7: I feel pretty good about Alex Austen. Yeah, I feel

693
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 7: better about it. I think that's a legitimate option, you know.

694
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 7: I think he's played really well most of the the

695
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 7: camp practices and I thought he was excellent and that

696
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 7: red that last two minute drill to hurry up at

697
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 7: the end of the practice. He made two of the

698
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 7: four plays to keep.

699
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Speaker 4: I think he's on this team, but I think he's good.

700
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: What do you think the gap is between Gonzo and

701
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: Carlton Davis and the rest of the room.

702
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 9: It's a good they say.

703
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Speaker 6: It's a nice little drop between Austin and I mean,

704
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Speaker 6: I don't want to crap on him though, I mean,

705
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 6: Paul said he's had a really good camp.

706
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 9: He looks good.

707
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Speaker 6: I would say after that, though, I don't. I don't

708
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 6: quite have that confidence into DJ James yet. He's a

709
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 6: little smaller guy. I mean he did. He did have

710
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 6: a nice play yesterday that I noticed, but I mean

711
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 6: that's look, that's gonna be your fifth cornerback.

712
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 9: So nobody's got no five guys that you feel Marcus Jones.

713
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: Marcus Jones in the slot, but Davis Gonzo and Alex Austin,

714
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Speaker 5: what do you do side?

715
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

716
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 5: They're gonna play a ton of man coverage and like

717
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 5: if he's in the slot and he's covering like Pop

718
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 5: Douglas types and you know those types of receivers every week, Hey,

719
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 5: with the other guys on the outside, Like I I mean,

720
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: I think you do a lot worse. Like I'm not

721
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: saying that he's, you know, the best nickel in the league,

722
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 5: but I mean, I don't know. Like I thought yesterday,

723
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 5: like Bob Douglas made Sandra Still look like he wasn't

724
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: very good either. So like, I think it's a tough

725
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 5: position to play, Like you have your inside, you have

726
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 5: two way go all the time. The guy can it

727
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 5: really has a ton of freedom playing in the inside

728
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 5: part of the field. I think he's fine. Okay, I

729
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 5: know you guys don't.

730
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 9: That's okay, No, No, I was no.

731
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Speaker 6: I was just gonna say there were a couple of

732
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Speaker 6: plays in seven on seven where you saw some of

733
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 6: the limitations with Marcus Jones height wise, and a couple

734
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 6: plays made over his head that you know in otherwise

735
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 6: a solid overall team performance, and you know, I.

736
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Speaker 9: Would just say, other than a couple guys, I have.

737
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Speaker 6: Some questions about quite a few of the defensive holdovers

738
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 6: from last year.

739
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Speaker 9: The guys that are gonna play a lot.

740
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Speaker 6: I would not Christian Gonzalez, not Christian Barmore, and maybe

741
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: not your bril Peppers. But after that, how are guys

742
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 6: going to fit in? Are they exactly what this coaching

743
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 6: staff is looking for even though they're on the roster

744
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 6: and it seems like they've got spots and they're gonna

745
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 6: play this year.

746
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 9: I have growing questions about some of those.

747
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really that's a fair concern. And the

748
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 5: Marcus Jones thing, like his matchups need to be managed,

749
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 5: like he's going to have to play certain types of receivers.

750
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Speaker 5: If you're gonna put him up against the guy that

751
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 5: can go above the rim and make catches over his head,

752
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 5: then he's going to have some trouble. But if you

753
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: manage the type of receivers he's covering, he should be

754
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 5: all right. But a lot of people do, sir, on

755
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 5: this Kyle Duggar thing at this point, and what exactly

756
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 5: his future on this team even looks like I think

757
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 5: that that's like a badar was the first one, but

758
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 5: I feel like now everybody's kind of jumped onto this.

759
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Speaker 6: I mean, you can see with Peppers that it seems

760
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 6: like they like him as a linebacker, you know, especially

761
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Speaker 6: in the sub packages, where it seems like he's probably

762
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 6: gonna play alongside Spelene a lot on third down and

763
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 6: really focus on that rather than you know, the old

764
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 6: defense there were so much spinning.

765
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Speaker 9: The dial of Peppers is up here, and now we

766
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Speaker 9: drop him back.

767
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 6: It seems like they just want him to focus on

768
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 6: kind of playing in the box now. He said after

769
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 6: practice the other day he's been watching certain players from history.

770
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 6: Who was the only one he named Bob Sanders, So like,

771
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 6: don't watch the pot where he gets hurt, because it

772
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 6: is in every other game. But I think that provides

773
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Speaker 6: a little bit of a window into what this coaching

774
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 6: staff sees in Jabrill Peppers and how they're going to

775
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 6: employ him. So I would put him outside of that range.

776
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Speaker 6: It seems like they know what he can do and

777
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 6: they know how they want to use him. But some

778
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 6: of the other guys, I don't know.

779
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: I don't know, justin a Brookline writes in I look

780
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Speaker 4: through a few Commanders media summaries on the joint practice

781
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Speaker 4: and was surprised to see they were pleased with the

782
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: play of their cornerbacks, given how well most of the

783
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Speaker 4: New England local media highlighted the solid performance of the

784
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Speaker 4: Patriots receiver room you agree with this. They also seem

785
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: to think their tackles mostly Tunsil got the better of

786
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: our d line.

787
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 7: Was good, Tons was good.

788
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 6: Tunsell picked up key on White and tossed them once

789
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 6: and that was tun was good.

790
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Speaker 7: And I didn't think there the Washington cornerbacks were bad.

791
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 7: I thought most of it. I just thought that got

792
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 7: in that rhythm where you know, with pop, with some

793
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 7: crossers and stuff. But for the most there was one

794
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 7: red zone period that the Patriots I thought, really just

795
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 7: hammered Washington. And I guess that's one of those I mean,

796
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 7: I guess that's what all you're looking for for, you know,

797
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 7: for the Patriots offense. But I didn't think the I

798
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 7: didn't think early in the practice that the Patriots receivers

799
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 7: are making a lot of plays. But there wasn't a

800
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 7: period and I had it here. See this is why

801
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 7: I brought my notes. If back shoulder touchdown to Booty,

802
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 7: wheel route to Henderson wide open, dropped another touchdown, next

803
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 7: place slant to Henry for a touchdown. So there was

804
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 7: like a rhythm there that it was boom boom, boom,

805
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 7: and the Patriots I thought were dictating, But that was

806
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 7: like a very you know, again, the hurry up period

807
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 7: wasn't the same.

808
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, Anthony writes in we did win the practice, Paul, Yeah, Paul.

809
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: I know, obviously it's just practice, but based on our

810
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: last four years of joint practices, this was a huge

811
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 4: step in the right direction. The reality is we were

812
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: a bottom four team last year and the Commanders were

813
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: a top four team. The fact that we gave them

814
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 4: all they could handle yesterday means to me that we won.

815
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 4: So maybe it's semantics, but nonetheless we are back.

816
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 7: LFG. What do you think of Washington going forward this year? Yeah,

817
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna take a step You don't think

818
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 7: they're very good.

819
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 4: I think that.

820
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 7: I didn't say that, you said they're gonna take a

821
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 7: step back.

822
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean I don't think they're very good, not

823
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 4: very good.

824
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 7: Not as good as last not as good as they

825
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 7: they had a record last year.

826
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Speaker 4: Right, you agree?

827
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 7: I absolutely agree. I didn't think they were that good

828
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 7: last year. I think they were the product one guy,

829
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 7: you gotta give him credit, throw five touchdown passes, go

830
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 7: ahead touchdown passes in the last thirty seconds. That's one

831
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 7: guy carrying you to win.

832
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: He's still on the tag and he's.

833
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 7: Still there's not sustainable.

834
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Speaker 4: Well that's why I think they're not going to be

835
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: as good as last year. But I think they're gonna be.

836
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 4: Do you think they're not as good?

837
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 7: What do you think they're not going to be as

838
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 7: good because you think they're they're really good, just not

839
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 7: going to be the state Or do you think they're

840
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 7: not that good?

841
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 4: They got a little lightning in the bottle, but they're

842
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 4: they're a good team.

843
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 7: Got hot at the time, lockstep, Freddy lock step.

844
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: But I don't think they're a bad team. They got lucky,

845
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: and that's where I think we part way.

846
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, a five hundred team that was propped up by

847
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 7: a great quarterback.

848
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: But will that great quarterback be able to prop up

849
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 4: mid Thank you man, I didn't even know I would be.

850
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 5: Excited if I was Washington about the wide receivers outside

851
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 5: of McLaurin. And I know that McLaurin comes back, and

852
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: everything all of a sudden looks like it's all hunky dory.

853
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: But some other people got to catch the ball too.

854
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 7: We saw Cincinnati just had the guys magically come back

855
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 7: as the season started and didn't just all of a

856
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 7: sudden click right.

857
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 5: But I mean, Daniels is awesome. I think their offensive

858
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: line is going to be pretty good, like Tunzels are

859
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 5: really good left tackle, but pass rush on defense too.

860
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: I didn't, you know, really think much of some of

861
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 5: the guys that they were. You know, Doron Pain's a

862
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 5: good player. I guess if von Miller goes back in

863
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 5: the way back machine, like maybe maybe that could happen again.

864
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Speaker 7: I don't know, I'm strong. Yeah, I thought he was

865
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 7: pretty good. Yeah, I thought he got the better of

866
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 7: things on the use a couple of times.

867
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 5: I definitely thought their roster talent though across the board,

868
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 5: would be like clearly better than the Patriots as a

869
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 5: team that didn't. That was in the final four last year,

870
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 5: and I didn't feel that way. Now, if McLaurin was

871
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 5: out there, maybe all my feelings would have been different.

872
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 7: But oh, that's true, that is true.

873
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 6: I'd say two on the offensive line point a lot

874
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 6: of the pressure. Harold Landry coming off the offensive right side,

875
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 6: the right tackle, I saw him get burned a lot.

876
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was always the same guy,

877
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 6: wasn't tracking that personnel, but I think it was their

878
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 6: left tackle, the rookie from last year that they moved

879
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Speaker 6: as a coleman.

880
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Speaker 9: Is that right to the right, Yeah, but it was

881
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 9: off the right side. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

882
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 6: I don't know who it was, but whoever, their right

883
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 6: tackle was as well as bar More on the right side,

884
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 6: so I felt that the right side of the line

885
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 6: was where a lot of pressure was coming in.

886
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 9: Yeah.

887
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 5: I don't want to turn this into like we're killing

888
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 5: the Commanders, because like obviously they're I think they're they're good.

889
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 7: I just don't think they're as good as their record indicated.

890
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 7: I don't think they have as much Andrew Wiley, I believe.

891
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's like a veteran, like.

892
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, journeyman.

893
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 6: He was getting toasted a little bit. But the left

894
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 6: side was, you know, pretty stout. I mean, that's why

895
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Speaker 6: I'm mentioning Barmore and Landry who were coming off the

896
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 6: right side. Even a little Tonga coming up the middle.

897
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 6: He was disruptive up there as well.

898
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: Randy's in Providence. Hey Randy, Randy, Hey guys, what's going Hey? Good?

899
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 15: So I was curious about number one, the Caydan Wallace

900
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 15: versus Cold Strange. It seemed like they were competing for

901
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 15: one spot. Just it's still seem that way and the

902
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 15: Patriots offense. I was perusing the Commander's podcasts and stuff

903
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 15: yesterday after to see their point of view, and they

904
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 15: felt like the Patriots offense really won.

905
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 7: I agree.

906
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 15: Do you think that the struggles we've seen are more

907
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 15: of a product of facing what could be a very

908
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 15: good defense in the Patriots defense?

909
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 5: No, that wasn't my takeaway. I not to like say

910
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 5: that the Patriots defense might not be very good, but

911
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 5: I just thought the Patriots offense, for the first time

912
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 5: in a while, I looked like it had a plan

913
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 5: and a rhythm of like how they were gonna attack

914
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 5: and how you know they're gonna get guys open, Like

915
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 5: they're running a lot of play action and you know

916
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: concepts that we've seen with McDaniels for years and years

917
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 5: with Gronk and the tight ends where some of those

918
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 5: catches that Hooper and Henry had. The guys are just

919
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 5: wide open. You know, there's nobody within ten yards of

920
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 5: Hooper on one of them.

921
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 8: Yeah.

922
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 5: So I think a lot of the stuff that the

923
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: Patriots were throwing at Washington defensively was just working.

924
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 7: Yep.

925
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 5: And I think that that's a really good sign. But

926
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily not that I don't think the Patriots

927
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 5: are gonna have a bad defense, but I guess I

928
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 5: just don't necessarily look at it.

929
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I would just caution that Randy, you know,

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00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 7: I think the Patriots offense was was good yesterday. I do,

931
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 7: and I think they were better than the Washington defense.

932
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 7: I thought, if you want to just break it down

933
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 7: that way, I would say that that they won the

934
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 7: Patriots offense, but I would also caution into I know,

935
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 7: what's joint practice. It is competitive, but it's it's not

936
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 7: the same as a real game because.

937
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 4: The quarterback doesn't have to worry about getting hit.

938
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 7: Well, there were also going to be sacks in that

939
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 7: both sides. Yeah, I think I think the Patriots would

940
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 7: have sacked Daniels and I know that the Commanders would

941
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 7: have sacked May on a couple of occasions. That changes

942
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 7: the whole outlook. You know, maybe the next play that

943
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 7: went for a touchdown is now third and twenty two,

944
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 7: do you know what I mean? Like, so that changes

945
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 7: the entire outlook of a play. Whereas everything is scripted

946
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 7: and they're running the play as this, you know, it's

947
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 7: already pretty de termined, like it's first down, place, second

948
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 7: down place, third down plays. It doesn't matter if the

949
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 7: previous play succeeded or failed. It's not impacting your play

950
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 7: call on the next play. As in a game, this

951
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 7: sequence is in sequencing involved.

952
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just jump on that and say, I think

953
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 6: specifically Jayden and Daniels two is a player that you

954
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 6: can't get the true sense of.

955
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 9: Even in that situation where.

956
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 6: He's so slippery, he's probably focusing on trying to stay

957
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 6: in the pocket, on trying because we know he's got

958
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 6: the jets, so what you know, you're not going to

959
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 6: learn anything from that. It's been more beneficial for him

960
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 6: to staying in the pocket. Same progressions, and you know.

961
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 7: When May scrambled all the times he scored it out

962
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 7: where it's like they're blowing the whistle like some of

963
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 7: those might have been good runts. Yeah, Like I look

964
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 7: at it both ways like plays.

965
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 5: He had one early where I thought he got loose

966
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 5: and would have converted, but then you know, he was

967
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 5: flushed out of the pocket. So it's like it would

968
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 5: have it could have gone one of two ways. To

969
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: Paul's point, it could have been a sack, or he

970
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 5: might have gotten out and he might have gotten the

971
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 5: yards on the scramble. But I just, uh, I was

972
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 5: encouraged by the timing and the rhythm of the ball

973
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: coming out. It wasn't like May was holding the ball

974
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 5: and running around back there and finding completions just off

975
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: of his talent, like they were running the offense, like

976
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 5: he was executing the McDaniel's offense, and the ball was

977
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 5: coming out quickly, especially early on in the practice, to

978
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 5: pop like pop absolutely dusted like three or four times.

979
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 5: Sand was still at the beginning of practice, like really

980
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 5: beat him like clean off the line, and May found

981
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 5: him all all four times, you know, and just really

982
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 5: looked like, you know, you could envision like what it

983
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 5: was supposed to look like based off what we've seen

984
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 5: over the past decade of McDaniels, and then what it

985
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 5: looked like yesterday, and it was like, yeah, that you know,

986
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 5: Paul's Patriot plays like that was a pop over the middle.

987
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 5: That was a Patriot play.

988
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 7: Totally agree.

989
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: All right, foods here, So I'm gonna take a break

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00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,680
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Speaker 8: How's going Drake's going on? All right?

1033
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: Kay Drake?

1034
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 8: So your coach is in the pile. Your coach gets

1035
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 8: a cut on his right. Yeah, what's that saying about him?

1036
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: No?

1037
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 8: I think, like I said, that's the that's what we're

1038
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 8: trying to build, I think, And it starts with the coach.

1039
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 8: Starts with the head coach. The intensity, bring it every day. Uh,

1040
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 8: you'll take it, no crap, and you know we're right

1041
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 8: there on the field. But also it comes to a

1042
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 8: time where with our guys offensively and get over there

1043
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 8: and get some muscles and kind of have some penalties

1044
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 8: and extra after the whistle could get us in trouble.

1045
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 8: But for mentality, I like it. I think that's what

1046
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 8: you want. I mean I almost got in there, but

1047
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 8: I think maybe another day maybe, so we'll see what happened.

1048
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 15: I mean, the idea what started seemed like Trevian Henderson

1049
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 15: might have been in Past Protector.

1050
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Pastport. I think it's physical. It's a

1051
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 8: physical game. You know, it's a it's a man's game,

1052
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 8: and things happen out there. I'm not sure if anything

1053
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 8: on this field happened. But I think there's a time

1054
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 8: where obviously you don't want to come out here and

1055
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 8: and fight and get into trouble, but at the same

1056
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 8: time you want you want to back down for nobody.

1057
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 8: So I'm sure your coach will get the mind get

1058
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 8: kind of preacher, can't have that, but at the same time,

1059
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 8: kind of in the back of our minds. So that's

1060
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 8: kind of how we want to play the intensity and

1061
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 8: kind of when the whistle's going to play hard, the

1062
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 8: whistle stops, you'll get off and get away.

1063
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: What did you like about what you guys were able

1064
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 5: to do today offensively? And I just felt like you

1065
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 5: guys were in a pretty good rhythm to start.

1066
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought it moves well. You know, it's good

1067
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 8: you'll play against another team. You're having all our guys

1068
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 8: out there and kind of get in the rhythm, you know,

1069
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 8: build some plays together and move the ball. I thought

1070
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 8: we this good thing offensively, and wish we would have

1071
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 8: ended it better, you know, tipball down there, but hey,

1072
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 8: what happens. That's football and that's why you practice those

1073
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 8: But uh, overalls powered up front. The guys up front,

1074
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 8: they battled hard, so I'm looking forward to uh getting things,

1075
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 8: you know, going as to getting in Minnesota and Friday night.

1076
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 8: So I'm sorry jumped in really quick there.

1077
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 9: How quickly do you feel like you're building.

1078
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 17: Your chemistry with mac Hollins considering how much time he

1079
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 17: missed in me?

1080
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, otarios, the chemistry's already there, so it

1081
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 8: don't even matter. So Greg with me tippaul was it

1082
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 8: an eyes thing or just kind of a bangy goold

1083
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 8: play for Bobby? I think I could have. I think

1084
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 8: I could have, you know, looked him a different way

1085
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 8: and he barely got hid out. I tried to throw

1086
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 8: it with some speed down there in the red zone

1087
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 8: and hopefully not have tip balls, but a good play

1088
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 8: by him. Unfortunate, but I play. I think reading Ie.

1089
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 7: Pick, do you look forward to playing in a preseason game?

1090
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think pres is a time to go out

1091
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 8: there and get the jitters and you know, real life

1092
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 8: when i'm live, you know, it's different from me being

1093
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 8: able to get tackled and get hit. So it's good

1094
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 8: to go out there and you'll kind of feel like

1095
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 8: live bulls are flying around and kind of not have that,

1096
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 8: you know. The first you know, snap of the season.

1097
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 8: Did you have peter anticipation coming out here today?

1098
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 13: Cool?

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00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 8: Anytime, any practice, any team period, really, you know, you know,

1100
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 8: you get kind of the the jitters of you know,

1101
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 8: want to do things right and make good plays, and

1102
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 8: at the same time it kind of bounces out with

1103
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 8: with the confidence myself and the conference of the guys

1104
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 8: around me. So that's what you know, it's mixing sports special.

1105
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 8: Do you feel like you're leaving the field today and saying, Hi,

1106
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 8: that went fine. Yeah, it looked like some football out there.

1107
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 8: It's a different team and you know felt good to

1108
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 8: kind of get our operation done against somebody else and

1109
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 8: we just have know, huddled. I thought we went well,

1110
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 8: so it was good for us to you know, learn

1111
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 8: from it, watch it and kind of build off it.

1112
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 18: You know what you've been doing with Josh has been

1113
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 18: teaching the new offense and kind of see it against

1114
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 18: another team.

1115
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that kind of positive affirmation.

1116
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 8: Team as you think positive when you're moving the ball

1117
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 8: and I feel like you has some good players, it's

1118
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 8: positive and you'll come out here not like you you

1119
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 8: didn't execut and didn't move the ball well, So it's

1120
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 8: always positive.

1121
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 19: You and Gene obviously same draft class, only one pick separate.

1122
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 19: Teach you guys, you're probably gonna be compared for the

1123
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 19: large part of your career. So how much do you

1124
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 19: put on yourself to sort of keep pace with him

1125
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 19: and everything he's doing.

1126
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 8: Obviously had a greatyear. I saw him out there. Yeah,

1127
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 8: congratulated him. What a what a what a year he had. Yeah,

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00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 8: I think there's a there's always in the back of

1129
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 8: your mind, you know, the draft class came in with,

1130
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 8: and anytime you play him especially, it's a little different.

1131
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 8: But yeah, like you said, I think, uh, I'm just

1132
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 8: trying to worry about myself. But at the end of

1133
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 8: the day, keep up those guys. Those guys are you know,

1134
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 8: him and Caleb and Bo those guys are good, good

1135
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 8: friends of mine and uh, you know, friends until we

1136
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 8: play each other.

1137
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 9: So much approach to pass brow.

1138
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he takes a real Yeah, I think

1139
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 8: you saw it in college. I think it speaks for itself.

1140
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 8: And I think coming here in the NFL, when you've

1141
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 8: got you know, Bobby Wager coming into the a gap,

1142
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 8: it's a little different, and uh, I got full confidence

1143
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 8: in him.

1144
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 7: You have to complete booty contested in the end, zone.

1145
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 8: How much confidence do you have in Kashawan when you're

1146
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 8: throwing SOA keep saying you do the right thing, keep

1147
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 8: doing it over and over, and you you know, willing

1148
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 8: to block in the run game, and I can trust you.

1149
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 8: You know you're gonna be out there, and I think

1150
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 8: you know, there's a bunch of guys that are making

1151
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 8: things like that happen. Pops through a great job and

1152
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 8: different guys in the room. So it's comforting knowing that

1153
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 8: you're gonna be in the right spot. And it's my

1154
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 8: job to give him a chance like having stuff out

1155
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 8: there for some Yeah, it's good to get him in

1156
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 8: there at the end, you know. I think anytime he

1157
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 8: you know, he kind of get him in in the lineup,

1158
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 8: it adds a different kind of swagger in the huddle

1159
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 8: with Cup Douglass in this offense to what you can do.

1160
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 13: Pop.

1161
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 8: I think he's tough to guard. Like I said, I

1162
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 8: think you see it in on little crossing routes and

1163
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 8: a little quick moves when he's meeting a defender, you know,

1164
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 8: face to face. So I think kind of all year

1165
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 8: it's gonna be my our job to try to get

1166
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 8: him opening space and let him run the football.

1167
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 16: Did today Grin seeing a different team, what's that process

1168
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 16: about the growth of vir offensive line?

1169
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, shoot, those guys are battling. You'll credit those guys.

1170
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 8: We got, you know, some rookies in there. We got

1171
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 8: some you know, veteran Garrett and Big Mo's coming back,

1172
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 8: So you'll credit those guys. Big Mic, I mean, good

1173
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 8: Gosh shows up every day, he doesn't complain, always in

1174
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 8: a good mood. And I think you just credit those

1175
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 8: guys for starting to build, kind of build up front,

1176
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 8: and we got some guys coming in there that are

1177
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 8: kind of earning a role and kind of being the

1178
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 8: guys that dressed on game day.

1179
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 4: Drake, did you happen to see Rabel bleeding?

1180
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1181
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 8: I saw, yeah. Somehow say it was like, uh the

1182
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 8: trump gunshot he wounds, So I was laughing at that.

1183
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 8: But uh no, I think you saw what he's breaking

1184
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 8: down the huddle and I'm not even sure what happened

1185
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 8: when it happened, but uh, you know, he said, don't

1186
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 8: worry about We'll see it on film, so we'll see.

1187
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 9: Can break it down, break down drag.

1188
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 19: It seems like you've done a really good job avoiding

1189
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 19: bad looks as a passer this season. I'm wondering how

1190
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 19: much of that is just your own maturation and how

1191
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 19: much of that is working with Josh M.

1192
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: David.

1193
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 8: I think it's built within the offense. But also at

1194
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 8: the same time, we always talk abound the court that room,

1195
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 8: you know, do we have a good play or do

1196
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 8: we have a bad look? And there's some times out

1197
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 8: there where I thought we had a bad look and

1198
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 8: I'm just trying to get to a better play.

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Speaker 5: You're a U n C guy, but Jason Tatum, Yeah,

1200
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 5: I know, but you don't usually see those guys around

1201
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 5: here too much.

1202
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 8: But was it like to yeah, shoot you no, you know,

1203
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 8: he's a he's a duke guy. But see what he's

1204
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 8: done for Boston And uh, obviously I told him what

1205
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 8: a heartbreak, what happened with him. I'm looking forward to

1206
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 8: seeing him come back. And Uh, it's funny story. My

1207
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 8: brother's here, my old bar Louke. His first start was

1208
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 8: in Cameron against uh Duke and he was guarding Jason

1209
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 8: his first art, so it was pretty cool. Do you

1210
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 8: still compare yourself to Jason as a basketball player? Who

1211
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 8: said that Kie? I said it'd be way off rand.

1212
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 8: But he's got probably way bigger bag than I do.

1213
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 8: So no, but sweet thing you.

1214
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 7: Guys, and now great moments in history.

1215
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 6: Would you rather totally give up kissing for the rest

1216
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 6: of your life or give up sauces?

1217
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 20: What?

1218
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 3: Kissing or saucy?

1219
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 9: Now that's good? What are the merry guys in their films?

1220
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 7: I'm going kisses there, bro, I love you, love me

1221
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 7: some sauces, the sweet and sour buffalo barbecue.

1222
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 9: Honey, you can't, you can't give up on kissing.

1223
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 5: Just yeah, I played the fi. There's no good answer

1224
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 5: for me there because she she cooks it and partakes

1225
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 5: in both things. So it's like, which one do I say,

1226
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 5: either in salt or cooking or one.

1227
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 7: Buffalo sauces? Good stuff.

1228
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 8: That's another great moment.

1229
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: All right back here and Patriots on FILD today, five

1230
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 4: five pasts five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots

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00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: dot com. Is the email address. We're talking about the

1232
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 4: joint practice. We're also gonna talk a little bit about

1233
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 4: what we might see tomorrow in the preseason game, as

1234
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 4: well as the Brady Statue one veiling live at six

1235
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 4: o'clock on Patriots dot Com. We also yesterday's practice. Jason

1236
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 4: Tatum showed up but no boot.

1237
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, I was.

1238
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 4: I'm just standing there, you know, in the media area

1239
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 4: down by the rope there, and all of a sudden,

1240
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 4: this you know, tall guy. It's like, that's Jason Tatum.

1241
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: I have to admit I was a little bit starstruck.

1242
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 14: You know.

1243
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: You know he's tall and.

1244
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 8: Tall.

1245
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: You let me finish my sentence. Then you see Tatum

1246
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 3: standing next.

1247
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 10: To an offensive lineman or like a massive behemoth of

1248
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,479
Speaker 10: a d tackle, and You're like, Tatum is really effing tall.

1249
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 5: And I think basketball players are sneakly the biggest athletes

1250
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 5: because they're so tall and but they are also still fit,

1251
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: like you know, and even like like Giannis is like

1252
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 5: six eleven, you know, like and just thinking about that,

1253
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 5: even next to an offensive lineman like tower over the

1254
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 5: offensive line. So yeah, he was there, no boot.

1255
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 7: I looked, no.

1256
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 4: Boot, No, And he was on his feet for like

1257
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 4: he stood the whole practice.

1258
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 5: He wasn't pretty good.

1259
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was walking slowly, but his swagger, I am,

1260
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 7: that's definitely on. That's not out of the realm, like

1261
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 7: I was. I think it's I think it's six weeks.

1262
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 7: You're supposed to be in the boot. So he's well

1263
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 7: beyond six weeks. Yeah, he had like this new surgery.

1264
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 7: I know it's going to have him back before this starts.

1265
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 5: Can you let me have some hope, Paul for two seconds.

1266
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 5: But so he had the surgery immediately, like within twenty

1267
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 5: four hours, and then he had this new I think

1268
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 5: it's called the speed bridge. It's like this new procedure

1269
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 5: of how they you guys know me well enough to

1270
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 5: know that I am now an expert on Achilles cover Like,

1271
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 5: let's be honest. He had the speed Bridge procedure with

1272
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 5: the best doctor in the world who performs this surgery

1273
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 5: in New York City. But say we're playing in New

1274
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 5: York when it happened.

1275
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 7: So that's why you only had the surgery that night.

1276
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 7: Can you can you let me that's a fact. He

1277
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 7: had the surgery that night.

1278
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 5: Okay, but let's just let's get past all the surgery nonsense.

1279
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1280
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 5: In theory, February is nine months removed from Achilles surgery,

1281
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 5: So the playoffs start in April.

1282
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 7: I don't want him anywhere near the court. You're crazy

1283
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 7: for the twenty five crazy Sason.

1284
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 5: No, I'm not, Yes, you are.

1285
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 7: There's the reason.

1286
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: The other teams already noticed.

1287
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 7: This is the reason why the other teams have already

1288
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 7: ruled those guys out.

1289
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 5: Well, Tyres Haliburton's injury happened six months, a.

1290
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 7: Month later, and the other guy, why can I not

1291
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 7: think of Damian Lillard has been a month earlier older, right,

1292
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 7: because it's not a smart thing to do. If I

1293
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 7: were the Celtics, that's my most valuable commodity. Rest be

1294
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 7: ready and what are we gonna do. Let's go for

1295
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 7: twenty six, twenty seven. You're championship contender immediately as soon

1296
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 7: as he comes back healthy.

1297
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 5: You're you're right, You're you're the rational one here, and

1298
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 5: you're correct. That being said, what I is that, like,

1299
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 5: what I worry about is the window in windows.

1300
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 7: Clo Patrick Mahomes. As long as you got Jason Tatum,

1301
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 7: your window is why secondighbor.

1302
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 5: It's just all I don't want to.

1303
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 10: I kind of agree with because not to go Celtics unfieldered,

1304
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 10: but like, just you're right, there's a window, and it's like, Okay,

1305
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 10: this year will just be a wash and we'll be

1306
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 10: ready for next year. But that's God willing that Jalen

1307
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 10: Brown doesn't have a bad injury.

1308
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 7: This or or they can.

1309
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 10: And I really think like this Tatum injury was like

1310
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 10: a godsend for this new owner. It gave them like

1311
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 10: the easy out to not pay.

1312
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,479
Speaker 7: If they can get rid of all those guys, I'd

1313
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 7: be on board with.

1314
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 9: The play right.

1315
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: They've already said.

1316
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 7: Top nine returning players, So why rush one of those

1317
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 7: five guys back for what to play with?

1318
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 5: Exactly because he's good enough to carry them to a championship,

1319
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 5: but not if he's on is not coming back, Like

1320
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 5: still genuinely cares deeply about that team. Throwing away an

1321
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 5: entire year of Tatum's prime is a really tough bill,

1322
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 5: but they're not tom.

1323
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 4: It Away basically got hurt. I have to start dealing with.

1324
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 7: That, right, young man. This is like, young man, Like

1325
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 7: I talked to my son. At some point, you have

1326
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 7: to address the possibility that it might not work out

1327
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 7: the way you want it to, and you have to

1328
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 7: deal with that.

1329
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: You have to believe that even if he's back for

1330
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 4: the playoffs, he's missed the whole season.

1331
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: I'm not back. I'm not I'm not prepared for it.

1332
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: But like, but that's really good. Yesterday he was on

1333
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 3: his feet all day.

1334
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 14: It was cool.

1335
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 7: To see him.

1336
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: It was cool to see him.

1337
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: Brady blew out his knee like he could come back.

1338
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: He walked to the locker room. He's okay.

1339
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 7: Oh, God, like the Pageack thing the eight season away,

1340
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 7: like the quarterback got hurt and they were no longer

1341
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 7: a title contender. Like I said that happened.

1342
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 6: When me and Evan were going on the field before

1343
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 6: the instadium practice to get the crowd hyped up, we

1344
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 6: walked by those stairs and I said to Evan, I'm like,

1345
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 6: all I think about with these stairs is watching Brady

1346
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 6: like slowly go down them in two thousand and eight,

1347
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 6: and then Evan too well in Mac Jones two, So I.

1348
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 4: Was part of Wow, Mac didn't go on his own.

1349
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 6: No, I just remember watching Brady to going outstairs, and

1350
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 6: I'm like, season is what it looks like.

1351
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: I would have traded Brown and Tatum in a first

1352
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 4: round pick to Dallas for Cooper Flag.

1353
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm very glad you're not so, am I You

1354
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 7: wouldn't do that, God, No, I would.

1355
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 5: Now.

1356
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: The thing that I would solve, all the Celtics would

1357
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 4: be able to restart financially and build build around.

1358
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 7: They wouldn't be that good what they wouldn't be that good.

1359
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 4: They wouldn't be that good for a while, but they

1360
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 4: would rebuild.

1361
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 7: But why do you want to do that? You're already great.

1362
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 9: Well he's always looking at red hour back.

1363
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at twenty seven years old New England kid.

1364
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 5: This isn't exactly like Pearson KG at the end.

1365
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 4: So I was expecting everyone to say, I was expecting

1366
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 4: every why would Dallas do that?

1367
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 7: I'm surprised I would Dallas? Do you why would Dallas

1368
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 7: do that so they could win a title?

1369
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 4: No, I'm surprised.

1370
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 9: I thought you all NBA.

1371
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 4: I thought I thought you would say, no way would

1372
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: they trade Cooper Flag for that? But I'm surprised to

1373
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 4: hear that you think they would.

1374
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 7: It would be for Tatum and Brown and Brown They'd

1375
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 7: be negligent to not make that trade for a guy

1376
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 7: who has You have no idea.

1377
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 4: You're not gonna have Tatum this year, and you don't

1378
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 4: know how you have him next year. I know you

1379
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 4: hope and you hope they'll be the same.

1380
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 7: Evan's got him back in February. Now you don't even

1381
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 7: have him back next year. In the world, I mean,

1382
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 7: if you have that bridge surgery speed speed Queen Speed

1383
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 7: Queen speed Bridge.

1384
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 4: Put him in the Speed Queen washer.

1385
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 5: That's that's how I remember what it's called is because

1386
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 5: I Speed Queen speed Bridge.

1387
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 7: Right, But they's so Paul South Jersey.

1388
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 5: If he if we go with Paul's route and they do,

1389
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 5: they don't get Tatum back, which they probably won't them

1390
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 5: Like quiet tanking is probably the best thing to do

1391
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 5: because with the way that the second apron works in

1392
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 5: the salary structure, like having the third star be on

1393
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 5: a rookie contract is probably the smoothest way to keep

1394
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 5: this thing rolling. So like if they if they're not

1395
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 5: going to get Tatum for the year, then they should

1396
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 5: probably purposely try these games.

1397
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 7: That's just the reality, is how it's kind of that's

1398
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 7: why everybody's no longer on the rush. How did they

1399
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 7: get the len Bias pick Gerald Henderson?

1400
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was back before like the rest of the

1401
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 5: league realized.

1402
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 7: They traded Gerald Henderson for a first round pick, and

1403
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 7: then that team was and they ended up being the

1404
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 7: number two pick in the draft.

1405
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 5: That was before teams realized like how valuable drafts were,

1406
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 5: and like Red hour back was really ahead of the times.

1407
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 3: And what happened after should they get like you just

1408
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: have to. That's it, like no compass, Like, no they didn't,

1409
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 3: you didn't.

1410
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 7: And I hate to be like next Day and making

1411
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 7: fun of I always make fun of evan screen team

1412
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 7: or habits, but I'm a Green team or too at heart.

1413
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 7: And I will tell you that that whole bridge that

1414
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 7: was there, it was Len Bias and Reggie Lewis. Yeah,

1415
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 7: they would have continued to be a title contender throughout

1416
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 7: the early nineties and into the mid nineties had those

1417
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 7: two guys not died. Now, I know that's a Green teamer,

1418
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 7: you know, point of view? True though, Yeah, definitely seen.

1419
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 7: Reggie was an all star.

1420
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 3: I can't imagine living.

1421
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 7: And they just lost two potential stars.

1422
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you know, ruined tragically.

1423
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 4: Yemmy in Texas Rights in can I can.

1424
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 7: I just read this email without knowing what it says. Yeah,

1425
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 7: we'll just being Washington in a joint practice. And you

1426
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 7: guys are talking about the Celtics, don't this is Patriots

1427
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 7: on filter? No, No, those haven't the defense.

1428
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 4: Those haven't come yet, Bias, those will be here contribution.

1429
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 4: But Yemmy in Texas Rights in Greg Madard says Mike

1430
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 4: rabel Is running the lightest training camp he's seen in

1431
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 4: twenty years. What's your perspective on this.

1432
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 7: I don't see it that way. I think camp has

1433
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 7: been fine, been very similar to what I've been seeing

1434
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 7: for the last ten years.

1435
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's I mean I had less experience.

1436
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 4: I mean last year there was some practices with Yeah.

1437
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 7: I think the practices were longer last year because it

1438
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 7: took too long to get them going. I made comments

1439
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 7: about that last year all the time.

1440
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: And then they would like run hills at the end.

1441
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought Monday was pretty tough. Monday was a.

1442
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 7: Long I think the practices have been fine. They've had

1443
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 7: a couple of walkthroughs that we have access to, and

1444
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 7: sometimes in the Belichick era, we didn't have access to walkthroughs.

1445
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 7: Now we have to go to all of them. Thanks Obama, Evan,

1446
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 7: you'll be You'll be happy to know that.

1447
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 4: Chris and Santa Fe writes in says, I got the

1448
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 4: speed bridge procedure last year, and now I trust my

1449
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 4: fixed side more than the other side. Hold on to that, hope, Evan.

1450
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 5: Post All Star break Baby, Jason Tatum's coming back into stuff.

1451
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 4: He said he it was back at work at my desk,

1452
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 4: job the next week.

1453
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 7: I know what he's talking about the ball I missed

1454
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 7: like two days, Like, it's not that's not like at

1455
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 7: desk job is it's nothing impressive about that still makes

1456
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 7: fun of me for walking into my crutches, But I

1457
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 7: I totally understand that mentality of I trust the fixed

1458
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 7: side better than the other side, because I definitely do.

1459
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 7: I feel like the other one is going to go

1460
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 7: any minutes right every time I feel is that hard

1461
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 7: to walk on it for a while? Is that the

1462
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 7: two and a half weeks that I walked on him

1463
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 7: without knowing?

1464
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 6: Well after you got fixed, Like for Tatum and them

1465
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 6: saying he stood out there to practice all day.

1466
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't an issue. Like it's

1467
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 7: running stop. Once the boot comes off, you feel like

1468
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 7: you're completely free, you know, and you can just you

1469
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 7: gotta be careful.

1470
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 9: You can't like jump, yeah, you know that's ball is

1471
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 9: jumping and lunching.

1472
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah in the Lateral movie mints of pivoting.

1473
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 7: Plus, we all also have to take into consideration this

1474
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 7: is an elite athlete. It's a little different than you

1475
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 7: know what I mean.

1476
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 4: You sage my point.

1477
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 5: When everybody's like he's not coming back. I'm like, we're

1478
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 5: talking about Jason freaking.

1479
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 7: I'm not saying. I'm not saying he can't come back,

1480
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 7: like it's impossible. I'm saying I don't want him to

1481
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 7: come back.

1482
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 3: Worth it.

1483
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 7: It's not worth it to me.

1484
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 5: It is worth it.

1485
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 4: You're selfish, Yes about him?

1486
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 7: The fans, Yes, it's all about you. Good fans recognize

1487
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 7: what they're doing and they're gonna anyway.

1488
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 4: Was that practice didn't know.

1489
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 7: Was there?

1490
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 3: It was a big star study.

1491
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, Danny Amidola, the Twins.

1492
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 4: I really expected the Helpopter to be coming down.

1493
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 7: Chung and left. I saw it leaving.

1494
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

1495
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 9: I thought I thought JB. John bon Jovi would have

1496
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 9: stuck with Bill. I thought that was a Bill guy.

1497
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 9: But I guess he's like you likes them, Boat.

1498
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 7: Don't get the chores, You don't make me choose.

1499
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hang out with him tonight.

1500
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: Is that okay?

1501
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: He's got the house in the ham right, It's nice

1502
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: to have seen it.

1503
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 4: Forty eight million dollars.

1504
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 10: Freakin' that's the that strip of real estate in Southampton.

1505
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, there's levels to wealth, you know, and like

1506
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 10: I want to be rich one day. I fully think

1507
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 10: I will be not like that.

1508
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 7: Will you remember us?

1509
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1510
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 10: Well, the first thing I do when I make it

1511
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 10: big is I'm going to buy a boat. I'm going

1512
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 10: to redo my mom's kitchen, and I'm buying paul.

1513
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 7: A camera.

1514
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to get in trouble with Kenny Yea,

1515
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 3: buy you a nice midsize sedan.

1516
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 7: Purpose.

1517
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 4: Let's see Thordor right sid he's from Iceland.

1518
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 20: Uh.

1519
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 4: I'm curious because yesterday in the review episode for the

1520
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 4: joint practice with the Commanders, you talked about how the

1521
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 4: interception from May was the last thing you saw and

1522
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 4: how it affected how you looked at his practice. If

1523
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 4: May had thrown that interception earlier in practice rather than

1524
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 4: at the end, would you have looked at it differently.

1525
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 9: It depends on the period.

1526
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 6: I mean, for me, it was all about this is

1527
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 6: the competitive period of practice. So if it was the

1528
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 6: you know, all right, here's the situation.

1529
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 9: It's all on the table.

1530
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 6: Paul mentioned earlier, the earlier eleven on eleven periods are

1531
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 6: like this is first and ten, this is going to

1532
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 6: be second and short.

1533
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 9: It's all controlled. So this was the third practice in

1534
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 9: a row at.

1535
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 6: The end in the competitive portion where you know he

1536
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 6: wasn't quite able to get him over the hump. But

1537
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I said specifically in the show, and I

1538
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 6: wanted this to make this out to color his whole practice,

1539
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 6: but I can't keep every time we come in here

1540
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 6: talk about I'm waiting for Drake.

1541
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 9: Is Drake killer or not? And then we see three

1542
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 9: straight competitive periods and he hasn't really been a killer yet.

1543
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 9: You know, That's that's part of the story to me

1544
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 9: so far.

1545
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 4: Chris wants to clarify that he works at a standing yeah,

1546
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 4: oh oh, flex sniff his desk job as a standing job, right, I'm.

1547
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 7: Just saying that as a standing once you have the

1548
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 7: surgery and you're in a boot for a little bit,

1549
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 7: then you're you're okay. You just got to before you can,

1550
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 7: you know, play NBA basketball.

1551
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 5: I just wonder on that pick, like sometimes I feel

1552
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 5: like Drake gets like really excited when somebody gets open,

1553
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 5: like for a touchdown, and he's like, oh, he's open,

1554
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 5: and then he just like throws it. And you know

1555
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 5: guys that are like veteran players like Bobby Wagner who

1556
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 5: are smart enough to read quarterback's eyes. He just took

1557
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 5: him right to the party, you know. And that's what

1558
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 5: he said after the practice was, you.

1559
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 7: Know, I welcome to the party.

1560
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 5: You got to move him with with my eyes or

1561
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 5: hold him in the middle of the field for a

1562
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 5: beat or something like that. Yeah, he just like immediately

1563
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 5: saw a pop flash open and just took Bobby Wagner

1564
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 5: right to it.

1565
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 7: And I also give Wagner some credit. I don't think

1566
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 7: that just any linebacker makes that play.

1567
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's pretty good.

1568
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: You know me.

1569
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 9: Again, I'm probably annoying some fans with this take, and

1570
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 9: you know, the people who want Drake to be.

1571
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 7: Well, But I know what you're It didn't necessarily tank

1572
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 7: my view of the offenses before Woman's yesterday and Drake's

1573
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 7: in particular, But I understand what you're talking about. You're

1574
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 7: looking to see him succeed in one of those series now,

1575
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 7: if it makes you feel any better. The Patriots defense

1576
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 7: did the same thing. They allowed a couple of completions

1577
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 7: to let them get goal to go, and then they

1578
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 7: shut them down.

1579
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1580
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 6: I was saying to when we came down to that

1581
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 6: fourth fourth down play, I'm like, just get a stop here.

1582
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 6: I can't deal with like they had a really good

1583
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 6: practice all around, But then the only narrative is.

1584
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 9: Going to be, well, Drake threw an interception, in jan

1585
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 9: Daniels threw a touchdown.

1586
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 7: It did really put a lot of stock on those

1587
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 7: last My brain was working those last forty five second

1588
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 7: drives from the twenty five yard line.

1589
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 9: There's only two of them.

1590
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 5: But he's not wrong to think the way that those

1591
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 5: were important.

1592
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 7: I do think those drives were important. They did do

1593
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 7: down in distance, The clock was a factor. There was

1594
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 7: a little bit more at stakes with Mike.

1595
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 6: Tune in next week when Evan and I are in

1596
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 6: Minnesota and they're going to do that same kind of

1597
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 6: competitive portion to end the period, and I'll.

1598
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 7: Be you know what happened when they looks like this

1599
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 7: dog just died, And that's probably you know, I think

1600
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 7: we did.

1601
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 5: Enough because like this is like this is this has

1602
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 5: been his most since North Carolina. Yeah, is like you

1603
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 5: can bottle up his throws and put them up against

1604
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 5: any quarterback in the country or any quarterback in the NFL,

1605
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 5: and he throws some of the prettiest balls of anybody.

1606
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 5: But then when it came down to like, well did

1607
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 5: they win the game, it was like no, they like

1608
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 5: he made five of the best throws you've ever seen

1609
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 5: against MC State, but they they lost by two touchdowns

1610
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 5: and you're just like, wait, what, Like how do those

1611
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 5: two things go inside? And like when you watch like

1612
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 5: the all twenty two in his college, like you're not

1613
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 5: really paying attention to the score. You're just like watching him,

1614
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 5: and like all of a sudden, the scoreboard will flash

1615
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 5: and they'll be down by like two touchdowns, and you're like,

1616
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 5: but I think he's played awesome, Like what do you mean?

1617
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 6: I mean, is it a little bit opposite of Tom Brady?

1618
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 6: And I don't remember what Tom Brady was like coming out.

1619
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 6: I knew that he had won big games, right and

1620
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 6: that that was part of the positive on his scouting

1621
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 6: report was that and the big games, this kid plays

1622
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 6: pretty well well. I just wonder how much of a

1623
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 6: part of the Scott and report that should always be,

1624
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 6: Like was Patrick Mahomes like that? Because Patrick Mahomes in

1625
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 6: the NFL right now is a killer and you know

1626
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 6: that you're gonna have to Texas.

1627
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 5: He had really got his stats because he played in

1628
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 5: that air raid with Clint Kingsbury, and but like they

1629
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 5: didn't win very many games. That was like the knock

1630
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 5: on him coming out is that they didn't win, Like

1631
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 5: he threw for five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns. But

1632
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 5: then that's it, and.

1633
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 6: That's me is all the psychology of like this year

1634
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 6: with Drake May how do you get to that point?

1635
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 6: How do you get these guys? I mean, Josh Allen's

1636
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 6: pretty much there too. I'd you know, say Burrows probably

1637
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 6: often in that category. But that's what goes from like

1638
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 6: the guys like Justin Herbert, who have all the talent

1639
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 6: in the world but haven't really won anything yet, to

1640
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 6: the guys who even if they have some warts in

1641
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 6: their game like Josh Allen did, but worked on them

1642
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 6: and now you know that he's going to be a

1643
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 6: pain in the ass right down till the clock hit zero.

1644
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 6: That's you know, And that's where you got to get

1645
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 6: Drake if he's really going to be the guy and

1646
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 6: not just you know, the brock perties of the world

1647
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 6: where yeah, they got the stats, but like when it

1648
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 6: ultimately comes down to the big games, are they going

1649
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 6: to win the titles?

1650
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 9: That's what matters.

1651
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 7: We talk about this a lot too, And I was

1652
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 7: teasing Fred about what he thought about Washington because that's

1653
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 7: the fact of the matter, in that league, there's very

1654
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 7: little to determine the difference between say seventh eighth best

1655
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 7: team and like the sixteenth or seventeenth best team, they're

1656
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 7: very similar. It's what do you do in the in

1657
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 7: the seven or eight games that are going to be

1658
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 7: decided by one score? How do you win them? And

1659
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 7: the teams that generally do really well find you know,

1660
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 7: Minnesota's excelled at that the last few years, is that

1661
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 7: because of Kevin O'Connell. Is he just really really good

1662
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 7: with the you know, and being able to win those

1663
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 7: games at the end. The Patriots haven't been able to

1664
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 7: do that. They didn't they couldn't do it with Mac

1665
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 7: Jones and you know last year, small sample, he's just

1666
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 7: getting started, but they didn't. They weren't able to win

1667
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 7: any of those one scored games at the end with

1668
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 7: Drake May. And if that doesn't change, it's hard because

1669
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 7: it's hard to just win every game going away. We

1670
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 7: saw that with Mac Jones that was the only way

1671
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 7: they could win is jumping out in front, getting the

1672
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 7: lead and then playing on their terms.

1673
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 4: The vast majority of games in the NFL decided by

1674
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 4: less than eight points.

1675
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 6: Right and I wonder how much of that is a

1676
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 6: skill that is developed, because I think, maybe wrongly, we

1677
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 6: look at it.

1678
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 9: As something that's innate. Being clutch is just kind of innate.

1679
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 6: But you know, even Brady, I mean, he was kind

1680
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 6: of innate with it, right, How many of those one

1681
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 6: possession games when they didn't look like they had it

1682
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 6: that day, it didn't really seem like the Patriots were

1683
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 6: going to win the game, and then all of a

1684
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 6: sudden he puts a couple drives together in the last

1685
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 6: five minutes and you know it was his third start.

1686
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 7: Was the game against San Diego that he came from

1687
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 7: ten behind in the last two minutes. Yeah, you know,

1688
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 7: and they ended up winning an overtime.

1689
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the we brought up Herbert, And I think

1690
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 5: Herbert right now is probably the leader of the pack

1691
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 5: of this category.

1692
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 7: He's Drake May on steroids, right.

1693
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 5: Like Herbert, Trevor Lawrence, like those guys that when you

1694
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 5: watch them play, they are clearly franchise quarterbacks just by

1695
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 5: the eye tech, but then you look at the results

1696
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 5: and it's like, but they don't they don't really win.

1697
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 5: And like Herbert's made the playoffs, Herbert's bring good yeah, but.

1698
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 6: Not great, right, and they have like you know, the

1699
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 6: five thousand you know, the five hundred yard passing game,

1700
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 6: like it's great, but right, are you consistent that.

1701
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 7: Game in Houston in the playoffs last year for Herbert

1702
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 7: Now they had played, they had a pretty good year.

1703
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 7: I thought they were a better team than Houston, even

1704
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 7: though they're on the road, because Houston's a division winner. Yeah,

1705
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, it's a flurry of mistakes. It

1706
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 7: throws a couple of picks and the game's out of

1707
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 7: hand and they loose.

1708
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,200
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Speaker 4: So I thought you already always had somebody with you.

1729
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Speaker 7: Last year we had Brian Hoyer. But Hoyer is on

1730
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 7: the sideline this year. Okay, so that was a one

1731
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 7: time thing because of Drake May.

1732
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 4: Okay, so they're not replacing him in the studio.

1733
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 7: No, Normally it's just me in the studio. So last

1734
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 7: year we had Brian, didn't do it because we wanted

1735
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 7: him to break down Drake May's offense on the telestrator.

1736
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Speaker 4: M the pulls in the studio in the game, like

1737
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1739
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 9: I'm excited to experience.

1740
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 7: That's kind of that's kind of the way it goes.

1741
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 7: I'm ready and everybody. You got anything to Yeah, I'm

1742
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 7: ready and we're going to comp maybe after the turn.

1743
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 6: I thought you were just there to sell couches, like

1744
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 6: I thought you just they cut to you and you're

1745
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 6: just supposed to be lounging around looking comfortable and be like, I,

1746
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 6: you know, know what's going on the game.

1747
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 5: Guys, but I'm really coming kind of feeling we don't really,

1748
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 5: But they were like, hey.

1749
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 9: Look there's Paul you know, to pop up on the TV.

1750
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 9: We can't hear you, so we assume you're saying nice things.

1751
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 6: But yeah, I thought maybe you're just you know, giving

1752
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 6: a sales pitch about the automan No, I don't.

1753
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 7: I don't sell any merch.

1754
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 6: It's like, you know Fred's style transitions where you're like,

1755
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 6: you know, Patriots seemed like they were kicking their feet

1756
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 6: back on that drive and you know that automate and

1757
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 6: Bosses Camp furniture.

1758
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 7: That's you're ready, You're ready.

1759
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 5: I think there was it Pat McAfee that that like

1760
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 5: like my accident. Yeah, it was like this is the

1761
01:17:58,680 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 5: most Boston guy.

1762
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 7: He likes my accent, freaking punter.

1763
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 4: His accent comes from uh bro, it's a bro accident.

1764
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 4: Uh let's go to Florida where Kingston is on the line.

1765
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 4: Hello Kingston, Kingston, the crank it up, Matt from Georgia,

1766
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 4: Ford from Savannah. I had Kingston from Florida. I don't

1767
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 4: know how that happened, but hello Ford.

1768
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 2: I'm fourteen and on the first time following and ever

1769
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 2: since he guys showed my uncle pictures, he's never stopped

1770
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: wearing a back cat.

1771
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 4: Okay? Is that it all right? Keep going?

1772
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 20: Besides what should I get?

1773
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 10: Oh?

1774
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 9: Get it digs?

1775
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 7: What Jersey?

1776
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 4: Besides Drake may and get a will cam. You'll you'll

1777
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 4: listen to that off the air?

1778
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 9: What would you say with the first one of the

1779
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 9: backwards had?

1780
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 7: Who is that?

1781
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 3: I think he's had his uncle ever since.

1782
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 9: We said he's throwing out the vibe. We needed a

1783
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 9: ruling from you yesterday, Alex.

1784
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,839
Speaker 6: Though yesterday because Dan Campbell's fond of the fitted hat backwards,

1785
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 6: do we get a ruling on that the fitted hat

1786
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 6: versus like the mesh snap.

1787
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 10: Back It was fitted flat brim or flat brim snap

1788
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 10: back flat room snapbacks, flat room snap back.

1789
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 3: Backward, flat brim fitted. I don't think you should wear backwards?

1790
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, all right, Well to me, the brim doesn't

1791
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 4: matter if you're gonna wear it backwards like I don't.

1792
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 3: The brim doesn't matter.

1793
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 10: But a fitted hat tends to have like more of

1794
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 10: a flat brim, and there's not the little people right.

1795
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: Like.

1796
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 4: A fitted hat backwards to me is even worse. Yeah,

1797
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 4: that looks it looks like you're wearing a beanie.

1798
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 3: That doesn't look good.

1799
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 10: But if it's the flat brim snap back or a

1800
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 10: standard baseball like dad hat like you're forty seven, yeah,

1801
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 10: those are good backwards.

1802
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 5: So the flat room snap back is that's the.

1803
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 3: New thing right now, and it's not flattering on the face.

1804
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 5: I'm a big pad guy.

1805
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 9: We gotta TELLQ that's what they call dan Quinn.

1806
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 7: That's yeah, that's good. Friends.

1807
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 5: The Red Sox Green Monster version flat room snapback is

1808
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 5: sold out, like you can't. I got one at the

1809
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 5: ground floor, so we're fine.

1810
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 9: But it's that's pretty cool.

1811
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 4: Also, I don't like flat hom hats.

1812
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 7: I don't like flat brims.

1813
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 4: I think they look goofy.

1814
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 3: I don't like some people, but a lot of people

1815
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 3: pull them off. I'm not one of those people.

1816
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 7: I've never seen anyone I thought looked good in it.

1817
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 7: But I'm too old for it. It's a young it's

1818
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 7: a young man's game.

1819
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 4: Freddy just just skateboard somewhere else.

1820
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 7: We're just living in it.

1821
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 4: Dominiques in New York. What's up, Dominique?

1822
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 8: Hey?

1823
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing?

1824
01:20:58,840 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: Hey?

1825
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 13: Recoverage on everything from saying campus and love them to recap.

1826
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 13: I gotta make a mission I actually may like, especially

1827
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 13: with a wide receiver room. I was so concerned about

1828
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 13: want of certain players just to make it. Whether it's

1829
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 13: like Jays and Polk kind of redeeming and so Jason

1830
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 13: Baker only because they were, you know, our draft picks

1831
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 13: from last year. But it's kind of nice seeing you

1832
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 13: though it's only two weeks. About right, people steps, enough

1833
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 13: kitson boogie, you see back home, coming back and doing well.

1834
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 13: Just about of these folks just like you know, making plays.

1835
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 13: So I care less about really who makes it, just

1836
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 13: who's the best for the team. Obviously that's the whole

1837
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 13: point of this thing. But I was getting in my

1838
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 13: head about this guy needs to make it or fix

1839
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 13: closest pickures, just pick the best f the step and

1840
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 13: that really gets kicking made and the offensive and opportunity

1841
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 13: to elevate. Those were really nice seeing that. So my

1842
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 13: fortune is if you had to hole, uh six receivers

1843
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 13: versus steven, what would you do based on you what

1844
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 13: you've seen? If you do hold step in what one

1845
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 13: position are you like cutting something like this, defensive line,

1846
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 13: offensive line, whatever it may be?

1847
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 4: All right, thanks Domini.

1848
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, I think we've all I don't want to

1849
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 5: speak for everybody, but I feel like everybody I've talked

1850
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 5: to is kind of settled on the five receivers of Diggs, Douglas, Booty, Hollins,

1851
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 5: Kyle Williams, as like that group is going to be here,

1852
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 5: and then it's just the floater of like are they

1853
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 5: going to keep a sixth guy? Are they not going

1854
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 5: to keep a sixth guy?

1855
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 4: I don't.

1856
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 5: I think seven is like pretty I would keep five

1857
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 5: unrealistic five that you just mentioned right, like that is

1858
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 5: the five that's that are here. I think pretty safely.

1859
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 5: The question is is do you want to carry a

1860
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 5: sixth receiver out of some of the young guys, like

1861
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 5: one of the second year guys or Efton Chisholm, or

1862
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 5: just a developmental player as the sixth guy that you're

1863
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 5: not your little concern isn't going to make it through

1864
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 5: waivers and get to the practice squad. So you put

1865
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 5: Javon Baker on the roster, you know, just the you know,

1866
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 5: maintain in control over him.

1867
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 9: I wonder about that with Polk and Baker. Is you know,

1868
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 9: Baker lower round draft pick.

1869
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 6: I think Paul you said maybe show like maybe there's

1870
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 6: still somebody out there with Polk is the second round pick.

1871
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 9: If he were to get you know, he'd probably be

1872
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 9: tough to get him through.

1873
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 6: But nothing I've seen out of those two guys so

1874
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 6: far has made me say in camp that they have

1875
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 6: to keep these guys around.

1876
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 9: I was curious, though, what did you guys think?

1877
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 6: Because I saw, you know, Javon Baker caught that touchdown

1878
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 6: yesterday and he launched the ball into the sky.

1879
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 9: Did that bother you guys? I?

1880
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 5: I didn't really. I saw Mike kind of like that

1881
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 5: would bother you because you didn't like digs.

1882
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 8: I don't want to.

1883
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,560
Speaker 4: Between launching it and the sky or spiking, because.

1884
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 7: The launching in this guy is considered like a delay

1885
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 7: of game kind of taunting to come down apparently. But

1886
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 7: gravity I don't. I don't make it's I don't. I

1887
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 7: don't make the rules. I don't like the rules. I

1888
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 7: like fun. You guys don't. I like fun. I like celebrations,

1889
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 7: So I have no problem with what Javon Baker did.

1890
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 4: I have no problem.

1891
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 7: There's definitely it's better. Actually, Sean Hoculey's crew was here yesterday.

1892
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 7: That would be something I think would be.

1893
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 4: If you spike the ball, it can go anywhere.

1894
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 7: It doesn't go anywhere near where the ball went. When

1895
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 7: Javon Baker threw it yesterday, I'm.

1896
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 5: Pretty sure one of the linemen caught it running over.

1897
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 7: Over shoulder, Yeah, which was kind of I have no

1898
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 7: problem with that, you guys, I mean, I'm being dead serious,

1899
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 7: I have no I like celebrations. I like I kind

1900
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 7: of like taunting. I think it's fun.

1901
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 4: I've seen guys launching into the stands. They don't get penalized.

1902
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 7: Oh yes you do.

1903
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 5: That's a fine.

1904
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,879
Speaker 4: Afterwards, but not during the game. It's not a penalty.

1905
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 7: I believe it is.

1906
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

1907
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 10: I think if it wasn't Javon too, and it was

1908
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 10: someone maybe more established, people wouldn't have as big of

1909
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 10: an issue with it.

1910
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 7: I don't think they were.

1911
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 9: I didn't a lot of issue with I just I

1912
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 9: think somebody issue.

1913
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 7: It's like when the defense picks off a pass and

1914
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 7: went down in the end zone, they take a picture

1915
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 7: of that's not here not do not care for that.

1916
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 6: Although I will say I like it all in the

1917
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 6: in stadium practice, I liked the little choreographed, little little

1918
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 6: conga line that going.

1919
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 4: I didn't like that that.

1920
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 7: I like it all. I think it's fun. I think

1921
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 7: the game it's a game and it should be fun.

1922
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 9: I wasn't.

1923
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 6: I wasn't bring it up, you know, joking aside like that.

1924
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 6: It didn't really in the moment bother me. But then

1925
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 6: you know, I saw some some stuff online of people

1926
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 6: talking about it, and then I just was bringing up

1927
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 6: for discussion because I'm like, is this what he needs?

1928
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 9: Like you know what I mean? Does he need to

1929
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 9: be like I need to really be on the straight

1930
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 9: and narrow right now?

1931
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 6: Because even in O t A S there was that

1932
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 6: you know moment where he caught a ball and he

1933
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 6: kind of jogged back and Rabel was like, let's go,

1934
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 6: you know, was on top of him.

1935
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 7: That's different. This was a touchdown, right, yeah, So I

1936
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 7: have no problem with it a touchdown.

1937
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 3: To celebrate their touchdowns.

1938
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just come up with.

1939
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 5: A different celebration. That's not a penalty.

1940
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 7: Again, I don't know they didn't. I don't think anybody

1941
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 7: threw a flag yesterday, so there were officials here. So

1942
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 7: if they didn't flag it, maybe it's not a penalty.

1943
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe friends, somebody who's a little bit on double

1944
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 6: secret probation and you.

1945
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 7: Know, you just not maybe not.

1946
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 9: I'm not saying.

1947
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1948
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 10: Like if it was someone that was more established, not

1949
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 10: trying to make the MAC again, maybe it was just

1950
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 10: like that release of emotion for him and he's happy

1951
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 10: to make a play.

1952
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot on the line for him.

1953
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know.

1954
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 5: So if you had to, if you had, if you

1955
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 5: had to pick, it would because of his uniqueness in

1956
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 5: the room. Like I feel like if they were to

1957
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 5: keep a Chisholm or a Pole, I just don't see

1958
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 5: a path to that player having a role. Whereas with

1959
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 5: Jaymon Baker, you could make the case that if Booty's

1960
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 5: not really having a great season or it doesn't go

1961
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 5: well for Booty for and I'm not saying it won't,

1962
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 5: but just for whatever reason, he gets hurt something like

1963
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 5: I could see Javon Baker playing the X and like

1964
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,799
Speaker 5: being out there, whereas with Jalen Polk, he's behind Digs,

1965
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 5: he's behind Pop, he's probably behind Kyle Williams for a role,

1966
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 5: like there's there's just bodies in front of him, and

1967
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 5: that's not even counting if Kendrick Bourne is here. So like,

1968
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 5: it's just it's harder for me to envision a role

1969
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 5: for Polk and for Chisholm because they're redundant to some

1970
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 5: of the other guys they have on the team.

1971
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 4: Baker isn't well, why do softball? Why is it played

1972
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 4: on all dirt infields? And baseball has some grass?

1973
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1974
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 9: I don't know what they what do they call it softball?

1975
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 4: The ball is just as hard as it's a little softer,

1976
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 4: a little bit softer. But is it so soft that

1977
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 4: you can just well, there's white softballs and there's yellow softballs.

1978
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 4: Did you know that?

1979
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 9: And there's a difference between how hard they are.

1980
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 19: Yeah, according to the Google, it allows the ball to

1981
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 19: travel faster and makes the game more offensive.

1982
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 4: I okay, I can see that the grass would slow

1983
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 4: down the big softball. Okay, all right, I can see that.

1984
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 4: Thank you for that. Let's go to the hot line.

1985
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 4: Who John and Haveril? What's up John?

1986
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 7: John?

1987
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 4: There you go?

1988
01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 11: Talk?

1989
01:27:59,160 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 4: All right?

1990
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 14: So I have to say one two days school, just

1991
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 14: get out.

1992
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 4: Of something summer summer Fred, Okay, but go ahead, John,

1993
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1994
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 21: Yeah, a top five cornerback in my opinion.

1995
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 7: Let's go.

1996
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 6: I would agree, play your flag, John Boom.

1997
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 7: I think he finished.

1998
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 11: Okay, I love it.

1999
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 7: I think they had a poll back and all that

2000
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 7: stuff on the SPN and he was sixth and that.

2001
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 7: So yeah, Top five just called it and waited just

2002
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 7: to say, just to get the younger Fred. I know, well,

2003
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 7: it's unbelievable.

2004
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 4: I think John was just the best call I ever

2005
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 4: heard on Felgar's show. Was the guy calls and he goes, Hi,

2006
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 4: it's Bob, first time, long time. I'll hang up and listen.

2007
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 9: That's good.

2008
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 7: Poor bar.

2009
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 5: Yesterday, I'm getting attacked about like just joint practices, like

2010
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 5: he just flnger just yelled.

2011
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 7: Well that's what he's It was like who are you

2012
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 7: yelling at? Like why are you so angry?

2013
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 4: And he was on a rant yesterday that one of

2014
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,879
Speaker 4: the best products the Patriots have had was this joint practice,

2015
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 4: which is absolutely free and then you have the preseason,

2016
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 4: which is a dog that you have to pay, you know,

2017
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 4: so what are you gonna do?

2018
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 7: But like but like, no, how do you fix it?

2019
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 8: Mike?

2020
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 5: I feel like everybody understands his thinking there, but he's

2021
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 5: like yelling at me, like I'm disagreeing with him or

2022
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 5: like his other big take was was that like it's

2023
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 5: all you know, basically, it's all on Drake May. If

2024
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 5: Drake May is good, the Patriots will be good. If

2025
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, we.

2026
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 7: We know, Like how do you argue that it's going

2027
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 7: to be awfully hard to be a really good team

2028
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 7: if your quarterback is bad?

2029
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 3: Right?

2030
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 7: How do you argue with that point of view?

2031
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 9: Is like, well, I have the times on the paying

2032
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 9: times on the punts.

2033
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 10: If you want it, Mike, you should run an experiment

2034
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 10: with Barth where we get his like blood pressure metrics.

2035
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 3: Before and immediately after the show, they.

2036
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,560
Speaker 5: Were talking about like who would you you rather have

2037
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 5: for the next like if you're drafting Jayden Daniels or

2038
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 5: or Drake May, and like they're like he's grilling bars

2039
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 5: like give me an answer, give me an answer. And

2040
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 5: I was like he's trying to talk and you just

2041
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 5: get Hilton.

2042
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 7: Adam, he's a bully.

2043
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 4: Bully.

2044
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 6: I just tell you, you know I spend I want

2045
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 6: Barth pressure during like you know punts. I want it

2046
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 6: during attendance at practice.

2047
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 9: I want pressure, want pressure show.

2048
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 3: The whole time and intervals track them.

2049
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 4: I still think we gotta have a electric football game

2050
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 4: between Evan and Barth, and we should have steaks. So

2051
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 4: like win you win. If you win, you get one

2052
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,759
Speaker 4: hundred dollars gift certificate to Jersey Mike. If Bart wins,

2053
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 4: he gets something college football.

2054
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 3: Or something, you know, match Maker series.

2055
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 5: So if you're talking, you're talking about Madden right like

2056
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 5: electric No no, no, no, no no.

2057
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the little guys on the I don't think.

2058
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 9: Every magnetic chaos that has you turn it on?

2059
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 4: And do you know I've got one in my office.

2060
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 5: I've seen this in your Office's like that's the first

2061
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 5: time I've ever seen.

2062
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 7: Have you ever had an old AFL NFL one?

2063
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 4: Have you ever done it?

2064
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 5: I don't think.

2065
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 4: I think the two that is this like.

2066
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 7: Hockey game is actually excell So this.

2067
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 4: Is an electric this is it's a playing field, it's

2068
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 4: metal and these are little plastic guys with treads and

2069
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 4: you set up your offense and you set up your

2070
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 4: defense on it, and then you turn the switch and the.

2071
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 7: Boards starts rates and it causes the players and.

2072
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 6: The players move, but not in the position you want

2073
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,600
Speaker 6: them to. Why you would hate I set them up

2074
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 6: and cover two and then ever.

2075
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 7: Charges I just perfectly designed the annexation of Puerto Rico

2076
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 7: and they went.

2077
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 4: Every player just goes like little treads are supposed to

2078
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 4: be positioned in the in the direction you want the

2079
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 4: guy to usually go, yeah, you get guys on the sideline.

2080
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 6: So this was a bit that me, me and FITZI

2081
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 6: used to do in one of our shows that we

2082
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 6: did before we worked here. We would do we would

2083
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 6: take like a key pave play from the game and

2084
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 6: we would like Evan style, set it all up so

2085
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 6: like it was literally look pre.

2086
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 9: Snap and I'm like and now you know, and then

2087
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 9: we'd subscribe it what happened?

2088
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 6: Why I was playing all right, let's just let the

2089
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 6: board on roll and see how the play went, and

2090
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 6: then it would just be total chaos and nothing that

2091
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 6: we talked about happened would happen.

2092
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 4: That's why it would be so fun.

2093
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 9: Where are you going, bro?

2094
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 7: Where are you going you run a post you're on

2095
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 7: the post man.

2096
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 9: It's just going to the sideline and then falls over.

2097
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 4: I think we do that during a catch twenty two.

2098
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 4: One of the catch twenty two is we'll do that.

2099
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 9: I know, I got one in my artist I got

2100
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 9: one in my house too. We have the artifact to

2101
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 9: buy it for the segment.

2102
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 19: You know.

2103
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,600
Speaker 9: I was during the T shirt days I had money to.

2104
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 7: Burn, thought that well, I wrote it off.

2105
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 5: I mean, Madden has new uh intros into the game

2106
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 5: now for night games. If you have a primetime game,

2107
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 5: it has like this whole little animation that it does

2108
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 5: and uh it has the Keeper of the Light has

2109
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:14,560
Speaker 5: the ringing the bell, and it's Gronk Gronk up on

2110
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 5: the top of the lighthouse doing his Gronk thing where

2111
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 5: he's like things and stuff, and it like kind of

2112
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 5: looks like Gronk, but like not really. But Bart tweeted

2113
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 5: it out and was like, you can even have Gronk

2114
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 5: through it, and everybody's like, yeah, it's that's Gronk. He's

2115
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 5: in the video and and but it I thought the

2116
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 5: same thing, Yeah, get paid for that. Probably it's just

2117
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 5: his likeness, Like yeah, they mean it just enough.

2118
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 3: Like him, but not.

2119
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 5: It's not great. Like I feel like when Gronk was

2120
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 5: actually in the game, like as a player, he looked

2121
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 5: more like Gronk than he does in the animation.

2122
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 4: But Cody's in New Hampshire. Hey Cody, my first time,

2123
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 4: the first time.

2124
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 21: Yeah, I just wanted to say, I am a lot

2125
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 21: of props. The's like fourteen year fourteen year olds calling

2126
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 21: him because kind of nervous talking to you guys, do

2127
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 21: it like you recently? But anyway, quick question on U

2128
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 21: on Booty, does it feel like he's.

2129
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 20: Kind of becoming a lock?

2130
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 21: I know he's like not very like exciting one of

2131
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 21: the up and coming receivers, but it's like last year

2132
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 21: and his confidence building with Trick May, it just feels

2133
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:27,919
Speaker 21: like he's kind of important.

2134
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 5: Yep, he's a lot I think you think so yeah,

2135
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 5: always a lock.

2136
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 9: Oh yeah ye.

2137
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 5: But I still look at that spot though, and like

2138
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 5: think that they could upgrade it, like not to go

2139
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 5: pick on Booty, like eventually he's like he's a fine players.

2140
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 5: But you know, Douglas and Diggs, I think I really like,

2141
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 5: you know the X spot.

2142
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 6: I'm so old, right, and I see that as like

2143
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 6: you're gonna get a little mc collins there, you're gonna

2144
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 6: get hopefully little Kyle Williams there, and then maybe eventually

2145
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 6: one of.

2146
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 9: Those guys really emerges to be the threat that they need.

2147
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 9: But yeah, he's a lot baby.

2148
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 4: All right, Thanks Cody, U go down to Pennsylvania, Joe,

2149
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 4: what's up?

2150
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 7: Joe?

2151
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 20: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call of the show. Uh,

2152
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 20: this would probably be like a lot for Evans just

2153
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 20: for their some number stuff I have, but everybody get

2154
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 20: everybody's opinion, But just about the cap and like cutting

2155
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 20: some guys and even some cat for next year, and

2156
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 20: just looking at over the cap, like we're fifteen MILLI

2157
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 20: under the cat for next year. I know we're sitting

2158
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 20: at like sixty right now, but looking at guys like

2159
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 20: Kendrick Bourn, we could save six point three million by

2160
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 20: cutting up. I love Born, but that's six point three

2161
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 20: million we could save. And here's four guys we to

2162
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 20: save fifteen million on by cutting Born, to Buy Low

2163
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 20: and Jennings we could save nearly fifteen million there, Like

2164
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 20: Low is like three point four million, to Buy is

2165
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 20: like two million, and Jennings is like three million. So

2166
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 20: that's good money we could save by cutting those those

2167
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 20: guys don't seem like they have a big role this year. Ways,

2168
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 20: but then also too going even going forward to next year,

2169
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 20: and like just with Vrabel and like his front office,

2170
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 20: how is he going to view a Whinning's contract, Dougars

2171
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 20: contract and Barmore's contract because they're all in like big

2172
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:21,759
Speaker 20: they all have big outs for next year, and especially

2173
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 20: with US, uh, just where we're at cap white next

2174
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 20: year and those big outs, where do you think that

2175
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 20: they'll view those players? But then also to two other.

2176
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 7: Side, can I ask you something before you continue, Joe,

2177
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Speaker 7: what are you projecting the cap at next year that

2178
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 7: you have them only fifteen million under the cap? They're

2179
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 7: fifteen million under the current cap.

2180
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I'm not taking into all those accounts too.

2181
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 20: But then right, we gotta like sign, we gotta sign

2182
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 20: the draft.

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01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 7: I have no problem, no, but like the cap is

2184
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 7: going to rise, Like.

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01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I know that, but I'm just looking at

2186
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 20: over the.

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01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 7: Cap just yeah, you don't have to. I mean, I

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01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 7: just think you're you're spending a lot of time worrying

2189
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 7: about things that I don't think are overly important, Like

2190
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 7: the cap is not an issue for really any team,

2191
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 7: Like the cap is so big now and it's growing

2192
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 7: so much every year. Like the bigger thing that I

2193
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 7: think that you're that you hit on that I that

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01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 7: I really think might be something that they're thinking about

2195
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 7: is guys like Kyle Dugert and mikel Wentu for next year.

2196
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 7: These are guys that signed big money extensions under a

2197
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 7: previous regime, and in general terms, those are guys that

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01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 7: need to be sort of on alert, and I think

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01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 7: it's a big year for both of those guys. They

2200
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 7: need to play well. Barmore I don't think is going anywhere.

2201
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 7: I think Barbo is one of the five best players

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01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 7: in the team. I don't think he's going anywhere unless

2203
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 7: something happens with you. No, yeah he didn't. You just

2204
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 7: sign one so yeah four year. Yeah. So I think

2205
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 7: I don't worry. If you can do whatever you want

2206
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 7: with your thoughts about the CAP, I wouldn't really worry

2207
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 7: about the cap. I don't think cap is a problem

2208
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 7: or anybody like. I don't think you need to worry

2209
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 7: about that number because the CAP number is too big.

2210
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 7: Like maybe maybe you do something to lower the number

2211
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,639
Speaker 7: in the but you know, I don't. I just don't

2212
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 7: think it's all that important. Yeah, I don't know.

2213
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 5: How exactly over the cap like calculates their their numbers

2214
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 5: with rollover because like the Patriots right now are sixty

2215
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 5: million dollars under the current salary cap.

2216
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 7: And they spent the most money in an offseason in

2217
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 7: NFL history right now, they tells you about the cap.

2218
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 5: They have expenditures over the over the course of the

2219
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 5: regular season, that are their effective caps pace with the

2220
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 5: cap space we project that they're going to roll over

2221
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 5: is about thirty five million dollars, So if you really

2222
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 5: look at it, that's rolling it over into next year.

2223
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 5: And then to Paul's point, the cap is going to

2224
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 5: rise because it's always rising. So let's say it rises

2225
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 5: by another ten million, that's really rolling over forty five

2226
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 5: million dollars in cap space. So their cap is they

2227
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 5: have all the money in the world if you even

2228
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 5: if you just say that we're going to spend to

2229
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 5: the cap and they're not going to go over the cap, like,

2230
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 5: they still have plenty of cap space to play with,

2231
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 5: Like they shouldn't if they want to cut like and

2232
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 5: move on from like a tabay Ra Jennings because they're

2233
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 5: not fits and they're not like I would agree with

2234
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 5: all for those guys, but that's that's totally a valid

2235
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 5: thing to say.

2236
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 7: They're not doing it because of the salary cap.

2237
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 4: To Paul's point, Thanks Joe, appreciate the car.

2238
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 7: I mean, Tava's the only one out of those four

2239
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 7: guys that he mentioned that I can say, well, maybe

2240
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 7: he's the starter next to Spolene, but he's been hurt

2241
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 7: and we've seen Christian Ellis.

2242
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 9: I was going to say, I don't think.

2243
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

2244
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 9: Heap is a little bit of a question mark for me,

2245
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 9: and it could go either way.

2246
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 6: It could be he doesn't fit or he's actually a

2247
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 6: great versatile, big bodied option to put next to Splene.

2248
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 6: You know, we can still use ls a little bit,

2249
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 6: but that's one thing I would still hold out for.

2250
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 6: But you know, just real quick looking at the roster,

2251
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 6: you know, next year, and I mean this is all

2252
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 6: why are we doing it?

2253
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 9: Because we're getting ready for a season.

2254
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 6: But I mean there's not a lot of like glaring

2255
01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 6: holes right now of like well they're going to mean

2256
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 6: they probably gonna have have to figure out Christian Gonzalez

2257
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 6: at some point. I mean, that would be a nice

2258
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 6: big piece that they could take care of, But I mean,

2259
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,879
Speaker 6: for the most part what we've seen from the starters

2260
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 6: out there this year, all these guys are kind of

2261
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 6: back next year.

2262
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 7: So you know, it's not like you're right about Gonzales

2263
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 7: and what just happened with Stingley and Sauce, Like those

2264
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 7: are the guys that came up signed big money deals

2265
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 7: after the third year, right in Sauce's case, So you're

2266
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 7: going to be after year three for Gonzales, my guess

2267
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:29,600
Speaker 7: would be that him and his representatives are going to

2268
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 7: be looking to do the same thing. Now it's going

2269
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 7: to cost you a lot of money.

2270
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,679
Speaker 5: Well yes and no, because it will be an extension

2271
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 5: on his rookie contract. So if you sign him next offseason,

2272
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 5: after his third season in the league, when he's eligible,

2273
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 5: he's still going to be playing in twenty six on

2274
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 5: the fourth year of his rookie contract.

2275
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 7: Which is why I don't worry about the cat.

2276
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 5: And then you get extension eligible after that.

2277
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 7: Yep.

2278
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 5: But good to that point, Like what the Cowboys are

2279
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 5: having right now with Micah Parsons is because.

2280
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 7: They've waited because they don't do it the right way.

2281
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 5: So if you're the Patriot, the Micah Parsons thing is like, hey,

2282
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 5: what's the word like cautioned into the wind, thank you,

2283
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 5: cautionary tale of like, don't do that right with Christian

2284
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 5: Gonzalez when he's contract eligible, extension eligible next offseason, lock

2285
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 5: him in immediately and don't get into this whole dance

2286
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 5: of you know, end of the year of his rookie

2287
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 5: contract like the Cowboys have with Parsons, because like I

2288
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 5: think the tough talk part for teams and like owners

2289
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 5: like Jerry Jones is like, you have the fifth year

2290
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 5: option on a first round pick and then you have

2291
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 5: the franchise tag in your back pocket too. So like

2292
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 5: really for a team like Dallas, they're looking at it

2293
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 5: and saying, well, we have two year more years of

2294
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 5: team control on Michael Parsons, So like, why are we

2295
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 5: baking the bank, breaking the bank right now to extend MICHAEH.

2296
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 5: Parsons when we have the leverage like he's under contract,

2297
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 5: we have the fifth year option, and we have the

2298
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 5: franchise tag. So this is a three years from now.

2299
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 5: Problem with Michael Parsons was.

2300
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 4: You know, wait three years and it's it's gonna cost more,

2301
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

2302
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:06,719
Speaker 5: But I can understand.

2303
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 7: You know, they did the same thing last year and

2304
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 7: then they finally gave him the contract. But they that's

2305
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 7: the way Dallas has been doing it. They dragged their feet,

2306
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 7: and I think it costs some money in the long run.

2307
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 6: Quick, I mean, just a quick look at the free

2308
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 6: agents next year. Do Austin Hooper, you know, t E

2309
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 6: two probably a position of long term need. Chase On's

2310
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 6: had a good camp, he's been hurt. Marcus Jones really

2311
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 6: the only starter I would say of the free agents

2312
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 6: next year. I mean, Alex Austin's a restrictive free agent,

2313
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 6: but you know, Cold Strange, Tonga, Epps, Hawkins, Gibbons, Low.

2314
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 9: It's a lot of depth pieces.

2315
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 7: So like we talked about Low, by the way, that

2316
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 7: was one of his four. Those four, Yeah, I think

2317
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 7: they might be something. Some of these things, like he said,

2318
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 7: like I don't I don't feel great about the backup tackle, right.

2319
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 6: You don't need to really plan it out. I mean,

2320
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 6: I think a lot of these things will take care

2321
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 6: of itself at cutdown day. And it's not about well,

2322
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 6: let's just cut them for money. I mean a lot

2323
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 6: of these guys are are on the bubble anyway.

2324
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 7: As it is, We'll just say, and I am starting

2325
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 7: to get a little intrigued by Marcus Bryant and I

2326
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 7: was colon in those things, So maybe maybe he would

2327
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 7: make a guy like low expendable.

2328
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 9: It seems like more guys. I don't know how to

2329
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 9: say this.

2330
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 6: I just like seeing guys improve, and I think he's

2331
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 6: a great example of somebody who you see get more

2332
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 6: reps and you start to clock a little bit more.

2333
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 6: We talk about it all the time, and it's at

2334
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 6: a position need now, is it because he's playing great

2335
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 6: or because they're like, it's because it's.

2336
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 8: Not that, you know? Is it?

2337
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 6: Is it about We're an import in a storm right now.

2338
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 6: We're trying to figure out, you know, if we get

2339
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 6: this guy possibly ready to play.

2340
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,560
Speaker 5: It the only a salary cap related thing that's like

2341
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 5: somewhat on my mind because I'm a nerd and think

2342
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 5: about these things. At some point, we're going to have

2343
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 5: to talk seriously about a Drake May extension. And when

2344
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 5: that happens, he's going to be a sixty million dollars

2345
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 5: a year quarterback.

2346
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:54,719
Speaker 7: But that's two years.

2347
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 5: It's two years.

2348
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 9: But it's just like Gonzo next year.

2349
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 5: When it comes to we all know, money in and

2350
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:05,600
Speaker 5: money out. We're having that conversation like sooner than you

2351
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 5: think end of next season, yeah right.

2352
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,520
Speaker 7: And when that next season, yeah right, when his extension

2353
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 7: three years in.

2354
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, when his extension kicks in and he's now a

2355
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 5: sixty million dollars a year quarterback, then some of this

2356
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 5: stuff does start to matter, like how you spend around

2357
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 5: that quarterback contract. Now you have the quarterback, so that's

2358
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 5: obviously a huge bonus. But even like Kansas City has

2359
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:36,919
Speaker 5: made moves like trading Tyreek Hill too because they're cheap, possibly,

2360
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 5: but we know that that's that's how the world works,

2361
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 5: so like when we get into that territory, that's a difference.

2362
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 8: By the way.

2363
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 4: Congratulations Roman Anthony, I love it for a long time. Yep.

2364
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 4: Red Sox building for the future.

2365
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 7: You congratulate John Henry. It's a tremendous contract for the

2366
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 7: Red Sox. That's tremendous for both to get that guy

2367
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:03,560
Speaker 7: for one hundred and thirty million. Were you surprised he

2368
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 7: was willing to pay, especially when in spring training he

2369
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 7: was not willing to play ball. And the only thing

2370
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 7: that has changed since spring training is he's proven to

2371
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 7: be legit.

2372
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 9: Right, right, more money.

2373
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 7: I was completely stunned that he took that deal. Good,

2374
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 7: good for him, great for the Reds.

2375
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 9: At some point, it feels just sounds like so money

2376
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 9: and much money. You're like, well, you should really be

2377
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:24,600
Speaker 9: hold well, I.

2378
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 7: Think that's played a year of the year. He would

2379
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 7: have gotten a lot more than that.

2380
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 5: Right, This is a twenty two to twenty three year

2381
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 5: old kid that just got handed a check for one

2382
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars. Right, it's pretty hard to say.

2383
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hold out for ye like one hundred million

2384
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 4: dollars priority A right for him? Good kid, good kid,

2385
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:47,879
Speaker 4: quick rights in could tomorrow also be a wide receiver

2386
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 4: showcase if the Patriots show a lot of born Pope,

2387
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 4: Baker or Booty to give Washington some looks of possible

2388
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 4: trade candidates.

2389
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean I would protect Tiggs. I think

2390
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 6: he saw enough of him yesterday. I probably protect Pop too.

2391
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 6: I've seen enough of him. I don't really think, but

2392
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 6: I think as far as Polk and Baker and Chisholm go.

2393
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 7: I can see those guys guys plenty.

2394
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:12,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2395
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I think you'll see a lot of those guys. Yeah.

2396
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 5: I worry about from the other direction, of like if

2397
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 5: Afton Chisholm has one of those precs like in Austin,

2398
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 5: get squad now cool.

2399
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 13: Great.

2400
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 5: I think that some of that's overrated. I know that's

2401
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 5: what Paul's about to.

2402
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 7: Say, but no, I'm not. I was actually gonna button

2403
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 7: hook you. Let me, let me throw this one at you.

2404
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 7: You know me, I'm always thinking about stupid stuff that

2405
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 7: really doesn't matter at all, Like made his extension three

2406
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 7: years or they just brought back an old friend Jamichael

2407
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 7: Hasty Michael right, So he's kind of, you know, the

2408
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 7: smaller pass catching kind of back. There's a couple of

2409
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 7: ways to look at this, like do they just want

2410
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 7: Hasty to go out there? He's not really part of

2411
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 7: the plan. I would thank you sign a guy halfway

2412
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 7: through training camp in preseason handle, give him, give him

2413
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 7: they maybe that you do not want give him the touches.

2414
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:07,759
Speaker 7: Maybe you do not want land Larison to get language.

2415
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 7: That's just something I was thinking about when I was today,

2416
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 7: Like that's that's a bill would do that, right. So

2417
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 7: we know we kind of like this guy. We don't

2418
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 7: have a spot for him on the roster. We're gonna

2419
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 7: put him on the practice squad. So we don't want

2420
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 7: him to go out there and put up ninety yards

2421
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 7: of total offense and some meaningless preseason game and get

2422
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 7: on the radar from everybody. Yeah. Yeah, so let's bring

2423
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 7: in Jamichael Hasty to get all those yards.

2424
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 9: Welcome back, here's eighty carres three weeks and you'll be.

2425
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 4: Back not checking that.

2426
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 7: That would be one of those that's stupid.

2427
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 5: No, that would be one of those like three D

2428
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 5: Chess things back in the Dynasty where we would be like,

2429
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,640
Speaker 5: Bill's just so much smarter than everybody else, you know,

2430
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 5: look at what he's doing, and then like it would

2431
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,799
Speaker 5: be like Taylor, I'm.

2432
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 7: Gonna fully go to the other side because I want

2433
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 7: to acknowledge there's another side of the possibilities and that

2434
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 7: they haven't been overly impressed with land Larison and they're

2435
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 7: looking for some ad depth at one of these little scatbacks,

2436
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 7: and they know Hasty is an NFL player. Ish, Yeah,

2437
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 7: maybe they bring him in and see if they can

2438
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 7: get him up to speed. And he feels like this

2439
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 7: secondary role as like a backup pass catcher.

2440
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,640
Speaker 9: What about Terrel Jennings earl guy from US Shames, I.

2441
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 5: Feel like I think he's still in the mix. I

2442
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,759
Speaker 5: feel like feeding Terrell Jennings the rock in the preseason.

2443
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 5: This definitely happened. That's a second half of the Preseasonterrell Jennings.

2444
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 7: I'll be saying, yeah, believe me, I'll be saying that

2445
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 7: Mike do So, Paul Perillo or fan favorites of Cearrel

2446
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 7: Jennings at some.

2447
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,440
Speaker 5: Point among property on Terrell Jennings.

2448
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 7: Island correct, Curtis and Lewis your little phrases though.

2449
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 4: Curtis and Saint Louis. There's been a lot of talk

2450
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 4: recently about how the Patriots should be on the phones

2451
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 4: trying to trade for Michael Parsons. Nick Cattle's says it's

2452
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 4: a no brainer, Chris can't have ESPN says they should

2453
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 4: be the front runners in the pursuit, and many others

2454
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 4: preaching this move would make them play of contenders. I

2455
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 4: personally disagree. One, I do not believe he's going anywhere.

2456
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,639
Speaker 4: Although I can't stand Jerry Jones, He's not a dummy. Dude,

2457
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 4: knows what he's doing. Prs PR.

2458
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 7: Secondly, so you don't disagree, you don't think he's going

2459
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 7: to get traded. That's what he said, Yeah, right, doesn't

2460
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 7: disagree with first thing, that the Patriots should be interested

2461
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,560
Speaker 7: in MIKEAEH. Parsons. Secondly, my first reason is he's not

2462
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 7: going to get traded.

2463
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 4: Secondly, what would it take in a trade to acquire him?

2464
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 4: I feel it would be way too rich for this

2465
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 4: current Patriots team. I look at the Khalil Matc trade

2466
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 4: to Chicago as reference. I wanted to know where you

2467
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:29,959
Speaker 4: guys stand on Parsons.

2468
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it'd take two first round packs.

2469
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 7: I need to know what the compensation is, but.

2470
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 5: I think it would take two first round picks.

2471
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:37,600
Speaker 7: I don't know why you wouldn't be interested in that.

2472
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 4: Would you give up to my first round?

2473
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:46,800
Speaker 7: Probably really for a defensive stud in his prime. Talk

2474
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 7: about Mike's side of the ball getting to the point

2475
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 7: where they're just about dominant.

2476
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 9: Well, you know it's hard.

2477
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 6: I like, I love that player, and he would change

2478
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:58,679
Speaker 6: the whole dynamic of everything. You know, But there's also

2479
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 6: just this weird part of me that likes, you know,

2480
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 6: doing it the old fashioned way and building break.

2481
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 4: One of the reasons why you keep that first round

2482
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 4: pick is that reason? Stud? Yeah, okay, so spend the

2483
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 4: first round pick on a stud?

2484
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 11: Got it?

2485
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 6: This is the book that's using the first round pick

2486
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 6: on so does But then does that mean Christian zaliz

2487
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 6: walks next to the season Why?

2488
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 7: Why does it mean that?

2489
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 9: Because you live in a place where just you got

2490
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 9: the money, just spend it. Spend it, spend it, spend it,

2491
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 9: spend it.

2492
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 6: Like you know, you think there's a certain point where

2493
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 6: they're like Parsons, do they though?

2494
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 7: I mean like they do the actual just one good

2495
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 7: player on a high, Like they're like Jamar Chase and

2496
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow make a lot of money.

2497
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 5: It's possible, you know that, Like like T Higgins, like

2498
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 5: he's not going to be in Cincinnati for the life

2499
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 5: of that entire contract.

2500
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 7: No, but I'm just saying, you can do it as

2501
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 7: long as you want to. Sure, but like if you

2502
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 7: don't want it, you don't want to. Mike might be right,

2503
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 7: they might not want.

2504
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 5: This guy is a good example because like they just

2505
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 5: gave T Higgins that extension. I don't believe that he's

2506
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 5: going to finish that extension.

2507
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 7: But do you believe that Chase and Joe Burrow? Sure,

2508
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 7: but well that's all we're talking about is two. We

2509
01:50:58,920 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 7: don't need three.

2510
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,560
Speaker 5: But then T Higgins, we'll see what happens during his extension.

2511
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson's is still holding out again.

2512
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 7: But we're not talking about multiple, which is talking about

2513
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 7: just two more than one, is I guess multiple, but

2514
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:18,759
Speaker 7: not several, just two Micah Parsons and Christian Gonzales and May.

2515
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 5: Christian Years and Christian Barmore and Milton Williams.

2516
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 7: That's not that kind of money.

2517
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 5: It's not not any money.

2518
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 7: This is I think Mike's point is you're gonna have

2519
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 7: to make Micah Parsons the highest paid defensive player in

2520
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 7: football forty million right year. Yeah, that to me is

2521
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 7: different than yeah, you know, twenty six million guaranteed. Yeah, yeah, no,

2522
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 7: you're right, you know, like that's a different animal.

2523
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 6: He can't argue with talent. I mean, that's ultimately what

2524
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 6: just appeals to you. You want to watch those guys,

2525
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:48,600
Speaker 6: those I mean, Michael Parsons is just I mean I

2526
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 6: remember like the early mock drafts who were all like, yeah,

2527
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons at fourteenth the Patriots, I remember doing that

2528
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 6: almost cut there, you know, I know it's taken him

2529
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 6: in a blank.

2530
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 5: I think they would have I think they would have

2531
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 5: run the car up there, like that's what all the

2532
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 5: reporting has been since that draft is that if Michah

2533
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 5: Parsons is on the board, Bill is taking Michaeh Parsons

2534
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 5: and not mac gill, it would have been Micah Parsons

2535
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 5: and Davis Mills like that. That would have been Now.

2536
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 7: I agree, he's probably not going to get traded, you know,

2537
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 7: but it's funny. It's fun to just sort of throw

2538
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 7: it off, and.

2539
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 10: It's not like it's arbitrary, like it would fulfill a

2540
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 10: need in the coming years. We've said how many times

2541
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 10: on this show that linebacker is sneaky a thing we

2542
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 10: need to look at next season and if not free agency.

2543
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 7: He's just a really good player. He can make a

2544
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:33,600
Speaker 7: case he's the best defensive player in football. That's what

2545
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 7: he's going to make that case. Yeah, he's gonna he's

2546
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 7: going to exceed those contracts, right, I would think so.

2547
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 7: And he's in his prime. It's not like like the

2548
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 7: Terry McLaurin stuff that we've been talking about forever.

2549
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2550
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 7: I can understand some people being reticent because he's thirty

2551
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 7: and you know, you want to give him big money

2552
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 7: at thirty. He's going to have to come down from

2553
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 7: that number.

2554
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the coolest thing about Michael Parsons to

2555
01:52:57,040 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 5: me is how versatile he is, like Miles Garrett. Awesome,

2556
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, But when as over the left

2557
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 5: tackle and rushes to quarterback, which there's nothing wrong with.

2558
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 7: When he was on the trade block there for for

2559
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,560
Speaker 7: a minute, you know, I was in on that.

2560
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's an absolute alien. But like Michael Parsons is

2561
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,600
Speaker 5: outside pass rush, you can find him up over the

2562
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 5: center where he just demolishes centers. He can play him

2563
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 5: off the ball like he's just gone. He's a he's

2564
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:24,679
Speaker 5: a great player.

2565
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:30,520
Speaker 7: Crystables. Okay, micah uh, let's go to California.

2566
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 4: Jeff's on the phone, Hey Jeff, you guys journey.

2567
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 8: Yes, okay, I got a few things here.

2568
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 20: First of all, my one concern is that at my means,

2569
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 20: do you think there's a chance they can pick somebody

2570
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 20: else when I start that's what happened to him?

2571
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 8: Did you hurt?

2572
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 20: No?

2573
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 7: No, No, he's out there. He's been out there every day.

2574
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 20: You can get him to the practice pot.

2575
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 2: I don't think you can getisis what do you think?

2576
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 7: Think you have any problem with either one? I think

2577
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 7: unless like something happens in the preseason and all of

2578
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,719
Speaker 7: a sudden, yet like twelve catches.

2579
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, chism is uh, chism looks great like in one

2580
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 5: on ones and seven on seven and route on it

2581
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:23,799
Speaker 5: on air and they get into the eleven on elevens

2582
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:25,639
Speaker 5: and I don't feel like I write his name down tone.

2583
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, So like.

2584
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 7: That hasn't gotten many opportunities with the front line guys.

2585
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no, say it was point two with

2586
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 9: heat saying tackles about hitting them up. I mean they

2587
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 9: did last year. I mean that's what But that's what

2588
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 9: you're gonna get.

2589
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 7: Like, so I'm not going to tell you you can't

2590
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 7: pick up linemen that are going to become available, but

2591
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 7: that's the caliber of lineman that's going to become available.

2592
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 7: Everybody needs lineman.

2593
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 5: I think Williams, your tackles are better now than the

2594
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 5: guys that you could pick up on the waiver wire.

2595
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 7: Right, But you know my point, like you, you more

2596
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 7: than anybody, hammer home the fact that everybody is looking

2597
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 7: for linemen. Yeah, so when they're releasing their alignment, they're

2598
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 7: not going to be upgrades for you.

2599
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 5: Could there be a center if you have two starting

2600
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 5: caliber tackles that you feel really good about you're already

2601
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 5: ahead of like half the league.

2602
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 7: But do you think there's going to be a center

2603
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 7: better than Jared Wilson.

2604
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know. I mean, I mean, just maybe

2605
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:21,839
Speaker 9: better than Garret Bradberry.

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01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 7: Maybe Ben. Oh, no way you're gonna get it. You're

2607
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 7: not gonna get a starting caliber player.

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01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 9: Ben Brown was the I'm just balling here exactly.

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01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 4: Pascal has a would you rather? He said, would you

2610
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 4: rather Draco undefeated or however close to undefeated is necessary

2611
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 4: for this exercise, and win the Super Bowl this year,

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01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 4: then flame out and never make the playoffs again, or

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01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 4: make the playoffs every year for the next fifteen years,

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01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 4: but never better than the three seed, and win the

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01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 4: Super Bowl the year he retires.

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01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 7: The second one, the second one a decade, so he

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01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 7: has a great fifteen year career and has on average

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01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 7: the third seed in the AFC. And I was about

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01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 7: to say, they tap it off by winning, Yeah, as

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01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 7: opposed to one great year.

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01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 4: Right, and then flam out and never make a playoffs.

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01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll take b I'll take that.

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01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 4: I like it.

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01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, another good one. Emails have been strong today, strong

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01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 7: to quite.

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01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 4: Stright, but it wasn't great because obvious well.

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01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 7: That's for us, maybe not for him. Why do people

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01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 7: have to think like you, Fred, because.

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01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 8: We know the facts.

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01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 7: That's a good point.

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01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 4: We know the facts.

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01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 7: It's a good point.

2633
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 4: And you know we were the originators of the great debate.

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01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 7: That is true.

2635
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 4: Also, Yeah, Santo was worried about injuries, and the old

2636
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 4: days risk was less because next man up mentality worked

2637
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 4: because there were few drop offs and talent. Patriots do

2638
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 4: not have that backup talent. So if there are a

2639
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 4: few injuries this year, I could see ten wins. If

2640
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 4: the injuries are numerous, I could not see them winning

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01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 4: more than six games.

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01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 7: Great unknown the injuries obviously hurt. I do have more

2643
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 7: faith in Vrabel and his staff to overcome. Yeah, the

2644
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 7: way that Bill did, I don't think. I think there

2645
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 7: was a big gap a lot of times between the

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01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 7: guys that got hurt and the guys that Bill plugged in.

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01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 7: But they were able to sort of scheme around it

2648
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 7: a little bit.

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01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 5: I remember, and it might have been seventeen the Mexico

2650
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 5: City game against the Raiders and they had to play

2651
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 5: a backup tackle and it's escaping me. If it was

2652
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 5: like well the Ladrian Wattle or like Cam Fleming. It

2653
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 5: was like one of those guys and they were facing

2654
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 5: Khalil Mack with the Raiders, and Kalil Mack like you

2655
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 5: didn't even hear it, get his name called.

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01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 18: The entire game, and it was like they just decide,

2657
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 18: you know, that was Bill Brady. Black guy's not going

2658
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 18: to ruin the game, right, Four guys out on round,

2659
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 18: and I have faith that this coaching staff can do

2660
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 18: similar stuff. I'm not saying they were as good as

2661
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 18: Bill in his prime before that guy that yelled at

2662
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 18: me for suggesting that Bill wasn't that good couple of

2663
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 18: weeks ago. I'm not suggesting these guys will do it

2664
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 18: better than Bill, but I think there's more of that

2665
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 18: kind of a mentality that you know, Josh McDaniels isn't

2666
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 18: gonna watch Will Campbell give up two sacks in the

2667
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 18: first quarter and just say, well, we're block him better. No,

2668
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 18: he's gonna start putting the tight ends over there, he's

2669
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 18: gonna chip, he's gonna do different things.

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01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 5: An of times that I heard last year, I'm putting

2671
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 5: the jive guys into the pattern, like only have works

2672
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 5: if you put five guys in the pattern, if you

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01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 5: can throw the ball and the quarterback's.

2674
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 7: Not on his butt after two and a half, Josh

2675
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 7: won't bang his head into a wall and just allow

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01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:34,760
Speaker 7: his quarterback to get killed.

2677
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 4: All right, killed, that's gonna be it.

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01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 7: Change.

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01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 4: In this edition of Patriots Unfiltered, we got the newsletter

2680
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 4: coming out, uh special that you want to preview?

2681
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 7: Doesn't look at it all right?

2682
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 4: Well?

2683
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 3: Patriots dot com slash subscribe to it anyways, can you?

2684
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 4: Newsletter is the way to subscribe. There's always some good

2685
01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 4: stuff in there, so even though doesn't seem too excited,

2686
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 4: So how do people get T shirts? They all want

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01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 4: to getting a lot of emails. You win Email of

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01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 4: the week, So subscribe to the newsletter.

2689
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:14,480
Speaker 3: Maybe we can throw in some little contest giveaway options

2690
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 3: for that too.

2691
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Patriots Unfiltered trivia.

2692
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 9: Yeah okay, So how about if.

2693
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 3: They can about the show?

2694
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 7: How about if they send in a question that I

2695
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 7: don't get the answer to the like we have to

2696
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 7: have some parameters there, like I don't need like how

2697
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 7: many receiving yards in his career did Troy Brown have?

2698
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 16: Like?

2699
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 7: And I would have to come up with the exact hotal,

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01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 7: like something that's reasonable that a reasonable person could maybe

2701
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 7: get a reasonable trivia question, something on the Patriots. All right,

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01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 7: Fred didn't like that. I thought you'd like that.

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01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 4: That's okay, Stump, Paul.

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01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 7: Stump, the moron.

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Speaker 4: All right, have a good weekend. We will see you

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Speaker 4: next Tuesday.

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Speaker 7: Thanks a lot,