1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Hey, ba fam I am so excited to answer this 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: question from a listener who wants to be called tired Nanny. Listen, 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how, Listen, I take care of these 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: kids because I have to legally, and like biologically, I 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: feel the need to keep them happy and fed and well. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how caretakers of the world do it 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: on purpose as like their job, because it's so exhausting. Okay, 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: so I had to read your question, tired Nanny. Let's 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: get into it all right. Tired Nanny says, I love 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: your podcast, and every week that's the one thing I 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: look forward to listening to. I came to the US 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: not long ago, and I'm trying to build my future here. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven years old and I have a bachelor's 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: degree in education. However, I'm interested in getting into grad 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: school to get an MBA. I've been using my background 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: in education to work as a babysitter for quite a 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: while now, but I am so tired of dealing with 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: these families. I have the money now to pay for 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: grad school tuition and a year's worth of expenses. My 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,639 Speaker 1: question is, would you recommend getting an MBA to pivot 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: to business, and do you think it's a good decision 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: to stop working so I can focus completely on my MBA. 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Thanks in advance. I'm desperately looking for advice. I know 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm young, I don't want to work on an education, 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: and now the only experience I have is working as 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: a nanny. Sometimes I think this is the only thing 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: there's left for me. Thanks for your genuine advice and 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: great content. Tired nanny. Oh okay, Han, First and foremost welcome, 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the States. I hope that it has been 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: a not an easy but I hope it's been a 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: smooth transition as much as it can be. I hope 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: you have a community, like a support system here you 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: didn't mention, but friends, family, neighbors, find your community and 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: start to build out that support systs. Because no matter 35 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: what you decide to do, whether it's get your MBA, 36 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: launch of business, pursue a different career path than you know, 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: you're going to need people to join you on that journey. Okay, 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: the biggest lie that we that you're going to hear 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: when you're in America is pull yourself up by your bootstraps, 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: all by yourself. That's some bullshit. Okay, no, no, no, 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: no no, we do things with community, with support, all right. 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: So first, yes, you are young, okay. And what I'm 43 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: hearing and what I'm reading, is that you have this 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: BA in education and you're just don't you don't think 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: you want to actually use it, or maybe you do 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: want to use it, but not in the traditional sense. 47 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: And I think the most literal, like some of us, 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: approach education thinking we have to literally do the obvious 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: thing that goes with that, you know, that goes with 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: that degree. I have a bachelor's in education, so I 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: must teach. You've already sort of stretched that to you know, nanny, 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: which I think is really smart and brilliant. I kind 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: of love that you don't that you're tired of it, 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: because you can listen to your instinct and say, Okay, 55 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: this is not going to be the thing. It's a 56 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: means to an end. And I wonder if if you 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: start treating the nanny job as a means to an 58 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: end and not tell yourself that this is what you're 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: going to be doing forever, maybe that'll help you when 60 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: your mindsets a little bit different, like deal with it. 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: You know you may need to if you want to continue. Listen, 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: I know for a fact is good money out here. 63 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: I pay my babysitter between depending on I have two 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: that I rotate through. One of them has a ton 65 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: of education. She's been you know, she's worked, she's older, 66 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: she has all this experience and stuff, and I give 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: her twenty five bucks an hour. And then for but 68 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: even for the college kid that I work with as well, 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: that baby sits for us as well, I pay her 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: twenty bucks an hour, which is more than you'll get 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: at most jobs, hourly wage jobs. And I can be 72 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: really flexible in all of that. Okay, So it's good money. 73 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: And if that's working for you, I'd hate for you 74 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: to set that aside because squirreling away money, especially at 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: a young age twenty seven, you're going to be so grateful. 76 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: You're going to look back on these years of nannying 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: and be like dang, I was hustling, I was sewing, 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: I was planting seeds, and you're going to enjoy the fruits, 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: those labor, fruits of that labor for years to come. Okay, 80 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: so maybe it might be a little bit of a 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: mindset shift for you. I hate this work more of ooh, 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: this work is a means to an end. Okay. Now, 83 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: the end may change over time. Right now, the end 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: that you're trying to get to is you want to 85 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: get your MBA or you want to start a business. 86 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: I wish you had told me a little bit more 87 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: about what kind of business you're thinking of starting, because 88 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: then I could give you more specific advice. But as 89 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Tiffany always says, you gotta get your salt shakers out. 90 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: Use a grain of salt with all the advice that 91 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: we give. But if you're wanting to pivot to launch 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: your own business, do you need an NBA? No, absolutely not. 93 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: I actually have a call with one of my original 94 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Mandy Moneymaker clients, Jasmine, later today and she's wanting to 95 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: start an LLC so she can start consulting on the side, 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: and I'm going to show I'm going to tell her 97 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: what I'm telling you right now. Any dumb dumb can 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: start a business. Now, is it going to be a 99 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: profitable business that you know, brings in revenue, that makes 100 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: you successful, that pays your bills, Well, that's you know, 101 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: that is to be determined. Do you need an NBA? 102 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. The Department of Labor is happy to take 103 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: your two hundred dollars or whatever it costs you to 104 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: set up an LLC. Okay, However, when it comes to 105 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: business strategies and the type of business that you're starting, 106 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: you may benefit from a structured, you know, graduate program. 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Not every NBA program is built the same, and I 108 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: would want you to spend time, time, time time to 109 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: do your research. Speak to people who've gone through a program, 110 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: read the reviews, speak to the admissions office like they 111 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: are going to really want to take your money. These 112 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: degree programs can be quite expensive. Now there are programs 113 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: that are full time, full on, you know, really fast 114 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: NBA programs like get your NBA in a year. There 115 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: may be a program that is more for people who 116 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: are working full time and may give you the flexibility 117 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: to continue nannying and then work in the you know, 118 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: afternoon or weekends or whatever that may be. You want 119 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: to find a program that's the right fit for you 120 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: and going into it already having the seed of an 121 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: idea for a business can also help you understand what 122 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: type of NBA to pursue. You may want to do 123 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: a concentration in business marketing. You know, there's all different types. 124 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: You may want to be more on the financial side, 125 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. So if you're yeah, there just 126 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: needs to be a little bit more clarity on what 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: you want to do with it. I'm not going to 128 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: tell anyone ever to go spend fifty k on a 129 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: degree just, you know, because it seems like a good 130 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: thing to do. I want you to have. I want 131 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: you to at least have done your research so you 132 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: know that it's going to be worth the investment. Okay, 133 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't have an MBA. I only have a bachelor's 134 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: in journalism, and I have squeezed every ounce of that 135 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: juice when I tell you that I possibly can, and 136 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm still squeezing it because I'm like, I ain't going 137 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: back to school. And I've learned, you know, in other ways. 138 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: I've learned from continuing education, so doing workshops, you know, 139 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: especially in my career, investing in professional development another option 140 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: for you is not another option. But I also learned 141 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: through mentorship, through surrounding myself one by one over time, 142 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: building relationships with people that have businesses, are also starting 143 00:07:55,160 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: businesses and are a very level various varying levels of 144 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: being in business, so brand new to it, been doing 145 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: it twenty years, have an online business, have a brick 146 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: and mortar business. You know, different different types. And as 147 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: I've gotten more focused on where I'm going with my business, 148 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: I start to zero in on people who have similar 149 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: business models and start to, you know, engage with them, 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: speak to them, learn from them, going to you know events, 151 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: so conferences, networking opportunities, organ you know you can join organizations, clubs, clubs. 152 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: What is this like the career the club fair at organization? 153 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: What is it called the fair at college where you 154 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: choose your clubs? Anyway, organizations you can join that can 155 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: help you connect with other people. So I'm not I 156 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: know that you're wanting like a specific you know, a 157 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: specific step by step how do I go? But I 158 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: feel like for you, you go cautiously. You do your research, 159 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: don't jump into getting an MBA. Be clear on whether 160 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: or not you need an MBA to accomplish what you 161 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: want to accomplish. Okay, you are only twenty seven. That 162 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you get to kick back and relax. 163 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: I think that you should continue working, whether it's being 164 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: a nanny or doing something else that you can earn 165 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: income so you can be saving and investing, whether that 166 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: money is going to help you, you know, with you know, 167 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: if you struggle with employment later on, or it could 168 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: be the seed money that you need to start a business, 169 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: depending on what kind of business, you may need a 170 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: little bit of startup capital. I also want you to 171 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: work on, you know. The one thing I know with 172 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: the NBA program is you're pretty much guaranteed to walk 173 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: away with a business proposal, right like you're going to 174 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: have like a business plan as part of your you know, 175 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: or learn how to structure a business plan. But you 176 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: can also work with people who have built businesses to 177 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: learn what is what is in their business plan and 178 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: how did they you know, pitch their business to potential 179 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: investors to get you know, seed money. There's all so 180 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: grant programs, you know, especially as a I'm assuming you 181 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: know you're a woman. I mean, I know you're a woman, 182 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: but if you're a woman of color, so there's programs 183 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: that specifically, you know, are there to help women of 184 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: color get funding. I know, one of the one of 185 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: our friends of the show, Ellie Ellie Job. You can 186 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: follow her. Ellie talks money on IG She's constantly helping 187 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: her audience find resources and different methods of getting their 188 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: business off the ground through getting like different funding opportunities, grants, loans, 189 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: et cetera. So there's so many options for you. Sometimes, Okay, 190 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: here's how I'll end this. You say, sometimes I think 191 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: there's the only thing that's left for me. Mm mmm mmm, girl. 192 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: I hope that I've given you some ideas just in 193 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: this conversation. But there's so much you can do. Look 194 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: how far Tiffany has come. You know, she was a 195 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: pre k, a preschool teacher. You know, she got a 196 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: master's in education, like and her undergrad was an education 197 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: and look what she's been able to build with that foundation. 198 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: You know, if I know how to teach, there's so many, 199 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, ways you could go. You could literally be 200 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: a teacher. You could obviously, you know, do private caretaking 201 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: as you're doing and you're learning aser really hard. You 202 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: could sorry, you could consult, like if you have a 203 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: specific expertise in education. I know you're young, but the 204 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: more like, the more specific your experiences, you can take 205 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: that and leverage it into a potential career path. Okay, 206 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: So if you if you were a you know, if 207 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: you specifically teach a language or a certain subject, or 208 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: you have a certain style of teaching. Americans love people 209 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: who have like foreign you know, it's like it sounds, 210 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, because everyone you know shits on Americans education 211 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: system a lot, which is fair because we do. We 212 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: are behind a lot of other developed countries. But anyway, 213 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: like you could show, oh in my you know, in 214 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: my in out my home country, this is how we 215 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: create these math geniuses, these science geniuses, et cetera. There's something, 216 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: there's a value proposition you can create for yourself. But yeah, 217 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: I would just say, welcome. You have time. You have time, huh, 218 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: you have time to create a career path for yourself. 219 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: You're already doing it. Do not or try your hardest 220 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: not to create this idea that you have to have 221 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: a linear path and it has to make sense. And 222 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: America will try and tell you you do it on 223 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: your own. Pull yourself up at your bootstraps. Go to school. 224 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Education is the way forward, et cetera. Sometimes that's true, 225 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: but it's not the only outcome. Okay, don't you may 226 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily need to sink a ton of money into 227 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: an additional degree. I just want you to do, you know, 228 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: some real research. Take your time. NBA programs aren't going anywhere, okay, 229 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: And depending on what kind of business you launch, you 230 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: may not even need one. So yeah, I just want 231 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: you to keep going. I want you to stay hopeful, 232 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: find your community, find your people, and start building that 233 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: community around yourselves. You have support on whatever you know 234 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: you do next for yourself in business, and keep listening 235 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: to Brown Ambition. And thank you so much for your 236 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: kind words and for submitting a question. And I hope 237 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: you get a little bit of a break, tired nanny. 238 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: All right, Honestly, y'all, this is my favorite time of 239 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: week when I get to dive into the hundreds of 240 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: questions our batham has submitted and zero in on those 241 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: career questions. So I thought it would be fun to 242 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: look back in the vault of twenty twenty three and 243 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: pick out one of my favorite career questions we've ever answered. 244 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: So here's a little let's cueue that you know that 245 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: chime music from Saved by the Bell when they go 246 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: back in time. Here's a look back, a listen back 247 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: at one of my favorite career questions of twenty twenty three. Enjoy, 248 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: all right, be a family. We are back with another juicy, 249 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: juicy career question. This one's gonna be fun because it 250 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: talks about negotiating, which is my I start panting and 251 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: getting excited. 252 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna read it because this is really 253 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: like Mandy's like Wheelhouse. I'm like, that's like my full 254 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: except like, let me read this. So Bady came me 255 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: in coach, put me in coach? 256 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: All right? What nell they got to say? 257 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: So this is from Nelly from ig Hi Mandy? Hope 258 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: you well girl. I'm here too, But that's okay because. 259 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: Me will stop. Everyone's always like hey and that girl. 260 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have one because you know best that this 261 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: is a Mandy question. But either way, Hey girl, I'm 262 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: just saying, hi question. I'm looking to interview very soon 263 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: for a new opportunity at my current company, different department. 264 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: It would be a promotion, and I have most of 265 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: the required skills, plus finish my master's in twenty twenty one. 266 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: Go ahead, girl, How can I go about getting the 267 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: absolute max amount of money since they don't have access 268 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: to my sound history? FYI, the range is up to 269 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty six K, and I'm at one 270 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: twenty three currently. They require a salary expectation entry when 271 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: I applied, I said one fifty just in case they 272 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: negotiated me down. Let me know if you have any tips. 273 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: Loving everything you're doing. Thanks Nelly, this is a good question. 274 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: What do I want to start saying hot and hair? 275 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 276 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, let's do. It's hot in here, so make 277 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: sure you get all your coins. 278 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: Okay, right, we negotiate a and no that doesn't work. 279 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: That's around. Okay, this is a book, delete that anyway. Listen, Nellie. 280 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations, because I feel like this is 281 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: a really exciting opportunity and to work at a company 282 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: where you can apply to another department, it's awesome. And 283 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: I feel like when people think about quitting a role 284 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: for a new opportunity, you sometimes think like you have 285 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: to go outside the company. But I'm a huge fan 286 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: of pivoting in place, Like that's what I call it. 287 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: When you find a growth opportunity right where you are, 288 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: and your mindset is really important here and this is 289 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: a thing where you know what you make and you're 290 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: kind of letting that kind of get to you a 291 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: little bit. I would treat this new department like another company. 292 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: So anything that you would do if you were interviewing 293 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: for an outside company, I would do you know, I 294 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: would go in there strong and establish you know, your 295 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: credentials and how excited you are for the opportunity. You've 296 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: already mentioned a salary at least it was a sort 297 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: of the top of the range. You mentioned one fifty. 298 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: I typically would have said, you know, put you know competitive, 299 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: or put zero or put one dollar, whatever it is 300 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: in the field, so that you don't have to necessarily 301 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: name a number. But I think that you should go 302 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: in there definitely expecting to get paid what the value 303 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: of the job is, especially if it is a promotion. 304 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: You have most of the skills, like you said, and 305 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: you now have a master's degree. So if you are 306 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: thinking about the salary that you have now holding you back, 307 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: this is a whole different job. You know, it's a 308 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: step up, probably more responsibility. What may help you feel 309 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: more confident going in and asking for your value is 310 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: to find comparable roles at comparable companies, as are the 311 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: two comps. You want to have similar company and a 312 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: similar role, and see what types of salaries they're offering 313 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: as well, And then again think of them as an 314 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: outside employer who doesn't necessarily know your current salary and 315 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: negotiate from that space. It's not about what you're earning now, 316 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: it's about the market value. Excuse me, It's about the 317 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: market value of a candidate for this specific role that 318 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: you're applying for. So don't go in there thinking one 319 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: twenty three vibes. Think one fifty six. Okay, think hi. 320 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: And you also know that you're not probably just making 321 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: one twenty three. You also have to factor in your 322 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: annual bonus on top of that, you know, so don't 323 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: forget that you can still negotiate those types of things 324 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: like your annual bonus amount. If they offer you equity 325 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: at your company, you should still feel confident negotiating equity 326 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: when you get to that point, Like you've just applied 327 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: now and you put in your salary expectation, which is cool. Now, 328 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: the key is everything that's going to happen before the negotiation, 329 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: which is you really want to make them excited to 330 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: hire you. You already know the company, but what other 331 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: strengths do you bring to the table, Like how well 332 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: do you understand the challenges the pain points of the 333 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: team that you're joining. Do you have any connections on 334 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: that team already that you can build on those relationships. 335 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: You want them to think of you as a no brainer, 336 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, so that by the time you get to 337 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: the negotiation or the offer stage, they want you so 338 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: bad that when you come back to them and like, hey, 339 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: one forty is cute, but what about one fifty six, 340 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: that they're like, Okay, we really want Nelly, you know, 341 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: so let's make this happen. That's essential for you at 342 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: this point. But before where you get there, you got 343 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: to get your mindset right around. This is a whole 344 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: different employer, even though it's with the same company, whole 345 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: different team. You're not in the same role that you 346 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: have now, You're not making one twenty three in this 347 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: new role, it's a whole different ballgame. So start to 348 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: think that way and don't get in your own way. 349 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: I like that, And I'm just like as someone who 350 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: employees and oftentimes typically will promote promote from within, you know, 351 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: I like most employees, employers are going to want to 352 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: look within if someone is good, because it's like, you 353 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: don't have to learn the company culture. I don't have 354 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: to like kind of talk talk to you about like 355 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: and teach you about what we do here. So know 356 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: that like that's a benefit, you know, to be able, 357 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: you know, to looking to work internally. But also sometimes 358 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: the problem is is like the prodigal son, right, the 359 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: person who leaves and comes that gets like better treatment 360 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: than the person who stayed. So don't be afraid either 361 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: to like be like it seeming like they you know, 362 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: they treat me like old news. Maybe I need to 363 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: be made nil again, you know, so if you're needing, 364 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: if you wanted to make more, consider that too. But 365 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: I just say this that I have people on my 366 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: team that are just so excellent, Like are you bringing 367 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: obvious excellence to the table, Not that you're you're doing well, 368 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: but you're visibly doing well. You know, there are people 369 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: who like even now, there's a woman on one of 370 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: my teams that I want to bring on over to 371 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: the Bunjanista. She's on the Literature Academy team. Shout out 372 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: to you, at Keisha girl, we come and get you. 373 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: She's amazing, Like, you know, it just started with you know, 374 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: us contracting her to do a few things here and there, 375 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: and I was just blown away about what she delivered. 376 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: Logan was like what we got to do to get her? 377 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: You know, and she do project management. But she's just excellent. 378 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: She's one of those people that, like, you know, it's 379 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: just it's going to see the thing all the way through. 380 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: A Keisha works really hard, but also smart and strategically. 381 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: She's like a great team player, easy to get along with. 382 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: She project managed project So her first project management thing 383 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: that I had her do was she helped me with 384 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: the with Get Go with Money launch. That was a 385 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: huge project to try and trust to someone and it 386 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: was like fifteen of us working on Get Good with Money, 387 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: and it was got to be overwhelming for me to 388 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: manage everyone. So I said, I heard through the grapevine 389 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: because we used to have our weekly chats when I 390 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: was the CEO of the academy. I heard through the 391 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: grape vine that a Kesha was interested in project management 392 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 2: and just wanted to test it down. I said, well, 393 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: I have a huge test for you. Try Get Good 394 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: with Money on the Budjanista side. And she was like, 395 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: are you sure? I said, one all eleven people on 396 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: the Get Goes Money team are hard workers, so the 397 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: project management component is you don't have to manage and 398 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: motivate them. These are great people. I cherry picked everyone 399 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: on the team so that was one. You just have 400 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: to keep us all organized, and she was excellent, and 401 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: I was like, hold up, I want to Keisha for myself. 402 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: So me and Tam had to tussle, like oh a 403 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: good tussle. I won, and so yeah, so I'll be 404 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: making her I mean, I don't even know ify Keisha listen, 405 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: but yeah, girl, I'll be making your offer soon because 406 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: we talked about it already. But I'm just saying all 407 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: that to say, when you were excellent, a space is 408 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: always made for you at the TA. So I'm sure 409 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: you're bringing excellence to the table in an obvious way 410 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: because it'll make people say we cannot lose you, know, Nlly, 411 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: So good luck to you. 412 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: That's such a perfect point to make. Yeah. I talked 413 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: to a coaching client this morning, all the way in Australia, 414 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: shout out to Nicole. It was ten thirty her time, 415 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: ten thirty a m. My time, and she's going through 416 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: a similar thing. She's applying for a senior role at 417 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: her company. And I had to remind her how incredibly 418 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: beneficial it is that people already know her, like she 419 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: has brand recognition exactly where she is, and she I 420 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes we take ourselves for granted at work 421 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: and we forget like we don't or no one tells us. 422 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: But there's so much value in having a great reputation 423 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: colleagues wanting to work with you. That, plus you can 424 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: teach skills, you can teach how to do this, how 425 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: to do that to a certain extent. Right, So if 426 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: you're meeting most of the qualifications on all of them 427 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: and people know and love you and will vouch for you, 428 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: and you know endorse you, that is so key and 429 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: that gives you such a huge advantage over external candidates. 430 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just about building your own confidence, Nelly, 431 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: and that you have a lot going for you already 432 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: understanding the inner workings of this company. And even though 433 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: I want to know like twelve thousand more things about 434 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: the situation, I just want you to go in again 435 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: feeling strong. And to Tiffany's point about sometimes if you 436 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: are missing out on opportunities and you're not being valued 437 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: where you are, because that unfortunately is often the case, 438 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: use this as a litmus test to see, Okay, do 439 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: I have growth potential at this company? And if this 440 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: promotion does not work out or you don't get the 441 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: support that you feel like you need. Well, at least 442 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: you explore that option, and you should feel no ounce 443 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: of guilt for looking outside of the company, you know, 444 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: for new opportunities. Sometimes they got to really fear losing 445 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: you to really respect and value you, which is unfortunate. 446 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: But it's up to you to you know, assert your 447 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: value in that way. So I hope this works out 448 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: for you, but I'm just saying even if it don't, 449 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: there's other pads ahead of you as well, and they 450 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: don't have to be you know, feeling stuck or stagnant 451 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: where you currently are. 452 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: But keep us updating, Nellie. We'd love to learn to 453 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: hear like what happened? 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