1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: dot Com. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: We go, Here, we go on the Giants Mobile. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Let's Go, part of the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome to 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the Front Office edition of the Giants Huddle podcast, brought 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: to you by City College of New York Doing Remarkable Things. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Learn more at CCNY dot Qney dot edu. We're joined 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: by Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kaffkan. Mike, busy offseason for 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: you as you settle into year number two with the 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. Just talk about this year compared 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: to last year and how much smoother things have gone. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I think anytime you kind of integrate a 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: new staff, a new offense and you're working through those things, 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: just working through the problems and working through the solutions 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: and get on the same page. From a communications standpoint, 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: that's always that's always the challenge. So I think going 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: into year two, things are a lot more smooth. We're 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: able to jump in and out of meetings a lot 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: quicker and kind of get to the point and we 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: know where the bones are buried on certain things already 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: and can anticipate what what's what's coming ahead. 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Darren Waller, big acquisition. Uh, you know, 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: went healthy. The guy's tremendous, right. I mean you've been 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: around some really good tight ends in your day as well, 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: but tight end it's you know, a lot of Giants 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: fans think of Mark Bivarro. It's a little bit different 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: what he brings to the table. Talk about the matchup 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: problems that he can cause for a defense. 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's a tremendous athlete. He makes you defend 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: really all the depth of the field and width of 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: the field. He's he can get over the second level 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: and work second level defenders. He can get into the 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: third level because he has tremendous athletic ability and speed. 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: He has a he's a really good blocker too, so 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: you can get him in the mix in the run game. 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: So he had an element you know, that gives you, 37 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: that gives the offense a little bit of an age 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: to move him around and you know, just move him 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: around and mix and match him with different matchups. 40 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Right, and you can almost he's almost like a big 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: receiver in certain settings. And with Bellinger having the kind 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: of rookie season he it gives you a lot of versatility. 43 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, and Belly has done a great job. He 44 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: had a great, great last year and he's continuing to 45 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: work and we're in working through the OTA phases, you know, 46 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: Phase one, phase two, and then getting into phase three. 47 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: Belly has done a great job of improving those certain 48 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: aspects that that we talked about. 49 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: Speed obviously was a premium to this offseason. You guys 50 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: added a lot of it. How important is it for 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: that for you to be versatile offensively and not be 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: so typecast with one style. 53 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anytime you have flexibility in your scheme 54 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: gives you an advantage, being able to move pieces around, 55 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: put guys in the backfield out of the backfield, spread 56 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: the field tight, and condense it. So it just it 57 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: just adds more whether it's gaps in the run game, 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: adds more space in the field for defenders to defend. 59 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: You know, that just gives you multiplicity in the offense. 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Jalen Hyatt, who you guys took in 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: the third round. Obviously, fantastic player. What were some of 62 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: the things that you liked about him as he was 63 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: coming out and you know when the Giants finally took him. 64 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's he's a tremendous kid of meeting with him, 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: got an opportunity to have him on a thirty visit 66 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: and really get to understand how he sees the game. 67 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: He's a smart football player, he's a tough kid. He 68 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: can from a skill set standpoint, he can run routes, 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: he has you know, vertical speed, he has catch and run. 70 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of aspects about his game that 71 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: I think fit with with the offense. And then now 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: it's about, you know, finding a role within the offense 73 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: that he can contribute. 74 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: Obviously, every place starts with the snap of the football, 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: and you guys drafted John Michael Schmidt's in the second 76 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: round out of the University of Minnesota. From an offensive 77 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: coordinator standpoint communication, picking up everything, What are some of 78 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: the things that you work with with him this part 79 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: of the year to get him up to speed and 80 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: ready for camp. 81 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, they're one of the first things we do is 82 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: go through all the calls, like where where does the 83 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: call call start? All right? How do you get everyone 84 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: going kind of in the right direction, and where do 85 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: his eyes go? If his eyes are on the right spot, 86 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: that's going to typically put everything else in the right spot. 87 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,119 Speaker 2: So you know, going through the basics, you know, footworkund 88 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: the metals technique, whereas I should be who the call 89 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: is and then working from there with the particular schemes. 90 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: And having Daniel Jones second year in your system, I 91 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: would exsume makes that transition a little bit easier. 92 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and DJ's done a great job hailing all of it. 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: We're continuing to throw more stuff and build on what 94 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: we did last year within the offense, continue to try 95 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: and test out new schemes and see things just a 96 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: little bit different way and continue to be creative. And 97 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: Daniel's doing a great job hailing it. 98 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: You know, last year you guys were able to find 99 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: production and scheme a lot of things and come up 100 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: with ways to get guys open. Is that the fun 101 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: part of the job each week is looking at and 102 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: opposing the defense and saying, Okay, here's what we think 103 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: might work and it's different than what we've done maybe 104 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: the previous four weeks. 105 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, that's the fun part of coaching is kind 106 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: of finding that mismatch or that just that little bit 107 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: of an edge from an offensive standpoint that you can 108 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: utilize to help you be successful. 109 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you have added weapons. It creates more diversion, 110 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: doesn't it. 111 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, You just have you have more opportunities to show 112 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: present different looks. That's you know, potentially difficult for the 113 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: defense but easy for the offense. 114 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: Running the football is obviously also very important, and last 115 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: year when you guys were able to stay balanced, it 116 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: really paid dividends for you throughout the course of the season. 117 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: That commitment to the run game. Just talk a little 118 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: bit about that and the things that you work on 119 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: to improve it. 120 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the commitment to the run game, the 121 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: pass game, all those things are really on a week 122 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: by week basis. I think, you know, depending on how 123 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: the defensive structure presents itself, that's what you want, that's 124 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: what you're attacking. You're attacking the defense. So you know, 125 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: if they're going to pack the box and you want 126 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: to spread it out and throw the ball, if they're 127 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: going to spread it out and leave light boxes inside 128 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: to run it, then that gives you an opportunity. So 129 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a little bit of a 130 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: flow of the game how things are going, but you 131 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: want to utilize your best players, however that may be. 132 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: There's a running back, tight end receivers, the quarterback and 133 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: so and having enough stuff within your scheme, I think 134 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: is what's important, which is what we're working on right 135 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: now in the offseason. 136 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: Do you see that as a trend because I noticed 137 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: it during the course of the season. It seemed like 138 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: there were more teams that were running for about one 139 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty nine to about two hundred and twenty 140 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: five yards. You'd get five six teams a weekend, and 141 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: five of those teams definitely were in the win column 142 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: as team. As the league has gone to a passing 143 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: offense and teams are drafting smaller linebackers, are the offensive 144 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: guys starting to say it's a lighter box, let's just 145 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: run it on them. 146 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you kind of see you're seeing a 147 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: little bit of a transition, just because the college game 148 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: is so influential to the program. You know, you're trying 149 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: to fit the players are getting from college and the 150 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: schemes that they're familiar with that express you know, what 151 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: they do really well, and so you inherently kind of 152 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: just see more spread offenses. And so I think defenses, 153 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: you know, have seen that these nests these last several years, 154 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: and they're adjusting right, so they're just in their different 155 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: personnel group so they get more speed on the field. 156 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: And so yeah, it's that cat and mouse game of 157 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: they go light, we go heavy, they go heavy, we 158 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 2: go light, and just kind of the back and forth. 159 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: That's you're looking forward to manage and then create those 160 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: matchups with with the people you have on your team. 161 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: Is one of the things to make sure that you 162 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: can forget is the power game in the sense that 163 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: you know in the NFL, during the course of the season, 164 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: sometimes you got to just make a yard or sometimes 165 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: you got to just make a half yard, and to 166 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: make sure that that doesn't get lost in the weeds. 167 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's that's a part of that's a part of 168 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: our scheme. It's part of our identity as an offense 169 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: and being able to run the ball, get downhill, create 170 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: double teams, and again it's all about utilizing your player's strength. 171 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: So if our all line is doing one thing really good, 172 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: that's what we want to continue to build off of. 173 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: And then if there's a weakness part of it, then 174 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: we try to hide that weakness with the shifts, the motions, 175 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: the personnel groupings to create that matchup. 176 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: You know, as you come off last season going into 177 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: this season, you study everything. Was there one area or 178 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure there were a couple areas that you would 179 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: share with the audience that you said, hey, here's an 180 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: area where we just need to get better at this year. 181 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we need to start faster. I think, 182 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: you know, for us as an offense that that's probably 183 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: one thing that we're emphasizing is just fast start. I 184 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: think we did as a team last year, but as 185 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: an offense specifically, I think we can we can get 186 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: off to a better start there. And you know, that 187 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: was a big time study for us as a group, 188 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: as a staff, as a as a when we went 189 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: and talked with the players throughout the phases here, that's 190 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: been a huge emphasis. 191 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: Great stuff, coach, We appreciate a couple of minutes. 192 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: Awesome, Thank you, Mike. 193 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: Kafka, Giants Offensive Coordinator. The Front Office edition of the 194 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Giants Medal Podcast brought to you by the City College 195 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: of New York Doing Remarkable Things. Learn more at c 196 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: c N Y dot QNE dot E d U