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Speaker 2: Man. Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with
Speaker 2: youth Suzanne Wilson, care free Arizona based intuition educator, author,
Speaker 2: medium and paranormal presenters. She's known as the care Free Medium.
Speaker 2: She's appeared on Coast Garia Television, Beyond Belief, the Fox
Speaker 2: News National Audition, and Amazon films. A master's degree in
Speaker 2: public affairs policy, a bachelor's and management. And here is
Speaker 2: Susanne Wilson back on Coast to Coast. Hello, Suzanne, how
Speaker 2: have you been?
Speaker 3: Hello George, fantastic, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: On, looking forward to this. How did you get involved
Speaker 2: in mediumship?
Speaker 3: I was born that way, you know, kind of like
Speaker 3: the Lady Gaga song. And in my childhood I realized
Speaker 3: I wasn't sitting in very well at school. So I
Speaker 3: opened up to my granddad, who was a Presbyterian preacher,
Speaker 3: and I told him about the things I was seeing
Speaker 3: lights and colors around people, and to my shock and relief,
Speaker 3: he told me he saw them too. So I had
Speaker 3: a pretty good mentor as a child. But you know, George,
Speaker 3: you just named my education and all of that. Well.
Speaker 3: I tried to live a normal life and not do
Speaker 3: anything with the so called wu O stuff for a
Speaker 3: very long time.
Speaker 2: But the wou stuff kept coming, didn't it.
Speaker 4: It came for me. It came for me in a big,
Speaker 4: big way.
Speaker 3: It was just a pretty much a hobby for many years.
Speaker 3: And then in two thousand and seven, I had a
Speaker 3: wake up call. And that's a near death experience that
Speaker 3: I've talked about before on the show here. But a
Speaker 3: lot of people are having spiritually transformative experiences like near
Speaker 3: death and other things, and I think there's a trend
Speaker 3: going on there and I'm no different. I'm just a
Speaker 3: late bloomer.
Speaker 2: George and your website still carefreemedium dot com.
Speaker 3: It is, yes, And you're doing.
Speaker 2: Psychic readings these days. Mediumship, what do you have?
Speaker 3: I've started back. I was really busy teaching and I
Speaker 3: do a lot of international travel too, but I have
Speaker 3: started doing one on one readings. People choose between mediumship
Speaker 3: and psychech we're talking to guides and I also work
Speaker 3: with a lot of berief parents. I've done that since
Speaker 3: the very beginning of a group called Helping Parents Heal.
Speaker 3: And I know that you've had some folks from there
Speaker 3: on the show. Have we have over the years, Well,
Speaker 3: we have a conference for berief parents, do you know,
Speaker 3: George in person. They sold out a thousand seats in
Speaker 3: no time and they're streaming it. That's how great the
Speaker 3: need is for people to get relief from grief.
Speaker 4: So I'm finding the.
Speaker 3: Work very, very fulfilling, even after all these years. But
Speaker 3: I did get a very late start lifelong psychic medium,
Speaker 3: even though I wasn't using it.
Speaker 2: When we pass, where do we go?
Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question. What we have is perhaps
Speaker 3: of insights. I call it how we know what we
Speaker 3: think we know? Where we go seems to be dependent
Speaker 3: upon our thoughts, words, and actions while we were in
Speaker 3: our bodies here on earth. For example, if we look
Speaker 3: at the philosophy of Emmanuel Swedenborg and Heaven and Hell,
Speaker 3: he talked about people upon arrival being sort of automatically
Speaker 3: transported by their energy to where they belong on the
Speaker 3: other side with like minded unlike sort of souls. But
Speaker 3: there's also a lot of evidence that people can create
Speaker 3: their own hell on the other side too. Now you
Speaker 3: and I don't have to worry about that. Your listeners
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about that. But we seem to
Speaker 3: create and receive what we create.
Speaker 2: Is there a hell, though I don't think.
Speaker 3: I would call it a hell as in terms of
Speaker 3: what we see in theology and in religious doctrine. I
Speaker 3: think what we would call it is a place that
Speaker 3: matches our frequency, and the frequency is sort of a
Speaker 3: collection of all of our acts, how we've treated others
Speaker 3: in our lives, how we've treated ourselves even And what
Speaker 3: I have found is when we look at the deep
Speaker 3: trance mediums coming through, like for example, Silver Birch through
Speaker 3: Marris Barbonnel, or monsignor Robert Hugh Benson from Anthony Borgia,
Speaker 3: independent direct voice medium Leslie Flint, We've got a lot
Speaker 3: of evidence showing us that heaven is perhaps.
Speaker 4: More real than what we have here, and that.
Speaker 3: Would include a lower frequency also. But I think it
Speaker 3: seems like you have to earn what you.
Speaker 2: Get there when you go to sleep and you're ending
Speaker 2: up in a dream, if you remember it when you
Speaker 2: wake up, it's kind of a strange existence. Is that
Speaker 2: what the other side is like when one dies?
Speaker 1: No, this is the.
Speaker 3: Dream, George, this life we're living right now. Some would
Speaker 3: argue this would be the closest thing to a hell.
Speaker 3: But I don't feel that way. I feel more positive
Speaker 3: about where we're going as humanity, believe it or not.
Speaker 3: And I know people are talking about the battle for
Speaker 3: humanity's soul that's going on right now. The battle is here.
Speaker 3: When I had a near death experience, in just those
Speaker 3: few moments that I had just out of the body
Speaker 3: with my heart stopped, waiting to get a shot that
Speaker 3: they gave me to bring me back, I felt more
Speaker 3: alive than ever.
Speaker 2: That was a scary time for you.
Speaker 3: Though, and wonderful and messed with my head for quite
Speaker 3: a while, and I was kind of directionless for a while.
Speaker 4: But then I.
Speaker 3: Figured out, I just need to find out what is
Speaker 3: it that I do in my life that really makes
Speaker 3: my heart sing, and that I'm being of service to
Speaker 3: other people. And I'm no Pollyanna, believe me, I really
Speaker 3: don't feel that way. I just know that since we
Speaker 3: live forever, only the body will ever really die. I
Speaker 3: want to be as good as I can because I
Speaker 3: have to live with myself forever.
Speaker 2: You know, when you came back, how long were you out?
Speaker 3: Just a couple of minutes. I had anaphylaxis in a
Speaker 3: doctor's office, so they had what they needed. But I
Speaker 3: felt my heart stop. I heard the pop when I
Speaker 3: left the body and stood behind myself, and so I
Speaker 3: didn't get to any kind of tunnel of light. I
Speaker 3: had colors and music my granddad that I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 3: and I seem to talk about him a lot everywhere,
Speaker 3: even though he's been gone since the seventies. He was
Speaker 3: there with his arms around me. But what happens is
Speaker 3: when I was doing psychic development, sitting in mediumship development circle,
Speaker 3: taking weekend classes, I was ashamed of the fact I
Speaker 3: was doing that because I had this great corporate job
Speaker 3: and I was working on a PhD on the weekends.
Speaker 3: I hid all that stuff after the near death, I
Speaker 3: didn't want to hide it anymore dramatic.
Speaker 2: But you do work. Now, what do you prefer? The
Speaker 2: psychic readings or the mediumship They.
Speaker 3: Both have a lot to offer people. What I would
Speaker 3: really like to do more of, and I have from
Speaker 3: time to time, is teach people to make their own
Speaker 3: connection with their own beloved people and pets on the
Speaker 3: other side, with their own guides, with their own higher self,
Speaker 3: so they don't need readings and so I think most
Speaker 3: of us mediums and psychics out there are teachers. We
Speaker 3: are trying to tell people, hey, you don't need this
Speaker 3: all the time, you can do this yourself.
Speaker 2: It is one incredible ability to be able to foresee
Speaker 2: the other.
Speaker 3: Side, and it doesn't always work, especially mediumship. I just
Speaker 3: if I don't feel the connection in the first ten minutes,
Speaker 3: I just say, look, no harm, no foul. Maybe I'm
Speaker 3: not your person, or this isn't meant to be, or
Speaker 3: they pick somebody else out. I don't try to force it.
Speaker 3: I don't pull on the energy. I learned that a
Speaker 3: long long time ago. There has to be a flow.
Speaker 3: And I've submitted myself to testing at doctor Gary Schwartz's lab.
Speaker 3: I've met him eleven twelve years ago, and I've done
Speaker 3: a lot of work with him, so I know about
Speaker 3: rigorous scientific testing and I want to do the right thing.
Speaker 4: I want to do a good job.
Speaker 3: But that's why I say we're in a time now
Speaker 3: where energy has changed so much. They really do feel
Speaker 3: like if you've ever wanted to learn how to connect
Speaker 3: with your beloveds and spirit yourself, you can do it.
Speaker 2: Our spirit guides, guardian angels.
Speaker 3: You know we can get really lost in naming things
Speaker 3: and labels, can't we. I tend to think of spirit guides,
Speaker 3: and also I call them interdimensional allies. When we mentioned
Speaker 3: the ets, the ultra terrestrials, those who probably are humanity
Speaker 3: from the future coming back more evolved. I think that
Speaker 3: we have all kinds of friends and intelligent non humans
Speaker 3: in the unseen world on standby helping us. Angels, I
Speaker 3: think are a whole different thing. Don't even offer angel readings.
Speaker 3: I think it's a specialty. But I will tell you
Speaker 3: I usually will see that one guardian angel that's with
Speaker 3: everybody that stays from birth to death and in between.
Speaker 4: Lives with them.
Speaker 2: Pretty dramatic stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's sometimes I wake up and I go,
Speaker 3: I can't believe that insane evidence that I got. Somebody
Speaker 3: just contacted me this week and I posted about it,
Speaker 3: and she said, yeah, you can use my name. She said,
Speaker 3: I'll never forget you're bringing through. I think it was
Speaker 3: her grandmother, And you said, she's here, and she's showing
Speaker 3: me a big mac and she's saying, we're laughing now,
Speaker 3: but we weren't laughing then. Well, her grandmother died eating
Speaker 3: a big mac at McDonald's.
Speaker 2: What happened? She had a heart attack or something?
Speaker 3: I think so, But what great evidence that it's really her?
Speaker 3: Sure to come through and say something like that, that
Speaker 3: to me meant absolutely nothing. It seems so random. They're
Speaker 3: really careful to try to identify themselves in a way
Speaker 3: so that you know it's them. But when they come
Speaker 3: to their loved ones directly, they give them emotions, they
Speaker 3: give them feelings, they play a certain song. I mean,
Speaker 3: they can do a lot of really really powerful things.
Speaker 3: Because again, there's no real death. This is the dream.
Speaker 3: The life after this life is the reality in my
Speaker 3: opinion and the opinion of many researchers.
Speaker 2: Do you believe in reincarnation? I was talking about that
Speaker 2: with the previous guest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, and I believe that it is not
Speaker 3: a linear process. I did not get to hear the
Speaker 3: previous guests. I'll be listening later on, but I tell you,
Speaker 3: I believe that from what I see that we could
Speaker 3: be having our past lives and our future lives now
Speaker 3: and they're interwoven together in some way. That there's in
Speaker 3: the Kajic records, the ether. There's a way to pick
Speaker 3: up on wisdom that you've gained in a past life,
Speaker 3: even without hypnosis, and there's a way to pick up
Speaker 3: on wisdom from a future life. Some people have even
Speaker 3: seen their doppelganger that looks like them, and they look
Speaker 3: in the eyes and they see an apparition that looks
Speaker 3: like them, but it looks like them in some other
Speaker 3: existence and gotten downloads of information. I mean, it's crazy
Speaker 3: that we're stuck in the space time construct that we
Speaker 3: have here on Earth. It's not really in the past,
Speaker 3: these past lives not necessarily so zen.
Speaker 2: Why are so many people concerned about dying?
Speaker 3: The great unknown, the great mystery, the elephant in the room.
Speaker 3: Why would you not be afraid of death? Well, because
Speaker 3: of pain, because of lights out, because of all the
Speaker 3: things that we think about death, death itself. I don't
Speaker 3: can I say this word on coast to coast self
Speaker 3: is said to be like.
Speaker 4: Orgasmick, get away with that.
Speaker 3: Okay, very good, and you know it's the death itself,
Speaker 3: But everything that led up to the death could be horrible, right,
Speaker 3: So there's fear. There's what if it really is lights out?
Speaker 3: I've even had people say to me, after everything I've
Speaker 3: been through, I hope it is just lights out. I
Speaker 3: need a rest now. Of course, we don't really mean
Speaker 3: that when we say that, But also there are souls
Speaker 3: that don't want to cross over because they're concerned about
Speaker 3: being judged when they leave this body. So lots of
Speaker 3: reasons for fear, but we don't really need to have
Speaker 3: fear because it doesn't work that way. There's no fire,
Speaker 3: iron brimstone, no judgment, just an opportunity to review your life.
Speaker 2: Don't you think dying though, in your sleep is probably
Speaker 2: the best rust?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, don't we all want that? How do
Speaker 3: you want to go?
Speaker 4: George?
Speaker 2: That's how I want to go, in my sleep when
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm not ready yet, but I mean when
Speaker 2: the time comes, that's the way to go. It's peaceful,
Speaker 2: and you don't go through any suffering, and you don't
Speaker 2: have any prolonged hospitals stay. You just go on.
Speaker 3: You were going to say you would go right at
Speaker 3: the end of the show saying goodnight.
Speaker 2: Well not this show.
Speaker 3: Well, let's all hope that what we have heard in
Speaker 3: two hundred years of afterlife data and research that this
Speaker 3: is true that at death, no matter how we physically die,
Speaker 3: there are those in spirit whose job it is to
Speaker 3: slip us out of the body and relieve our pain
Speaker 3: and take us to the next step.
Speaker 2: That is dramatic all by itself, isn't it?
Speaker 3: It is, But it's also encouraging because we have nothing
Speaker 3: to fear. There's always going to be pain and there's
Speaker 3: always going to be joy on earth. So leading up
Speaker 3: to the death could be painful, but the death itself
Speaker 3: seems to be wonderful. At least that's what it sounds
Speaker 3: like from all of the data we have on your
Speaker 3: death experiences. If you've ever had an out of body experience,
Speaker 3: you know that flying, that soaring, feels wonderful getting out
Speaker 3: of the body. We just don't have evidence that death
Speaker 3: itself is horrible. It's actually the opposite.
Speaker 2: Next hour, we're going to take phone calls. But Tom
Speaker 2: tells me you'll do psychic or medium readings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd absolutely give it a shot. Of course.
Speaker 2: Now with the psychic readings, will you ask for a
Speaker 2: question from the individual.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'd ask for a question, a life issue question.
Speaker 3: How can I help a loved one or a decision
Speaker 3: you have to make. I will not be making a
Speaker 3: decision for you, but clarify things as best I can
Speaker 3: with mediumship. You know, it's interesting because Tom had asked,
Speaker 3: do I want the first name of the person they're
Speaker 3: trying to contact? And I thought maybe at first, but
Speaker 3: actually I think I just want the caller's first name
Speaker 3: of what city they're calling from, no confidential information, and
Speaker 3: I'll see who's around and.
Speaker 2: They'll just ask you, I want to know about my
Speaker 2: dead friend or whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, if that friend is there, great, but what if
Speaker 3: it's uh, you know, Aunt Susie.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's true. How and Harry Houdini have reacted to you?
Speaker 3: It's interesting you bring up Houdini. I will in a
Speaker 3: few weeks. I'm going to go to the Harry Houdini
Speaker 3: Museum in Budapest and I've made arrangements for a tour
Speaker 3: over there, which will be really cool. I've actually it's
Speaker 3: gonna sound wild, but hey, you.
Speaker 4: Know, look at what I do for lav. We we're
Speaker 4: talking about death.
Speaker 3: I've actually met Houdini, as have other research lab mediums
Speaker 3: working with Gary Schwartz. But I'll tell you I don't
Speaker 3: think he's the big skeptic anymore.
Speaker 2: He's a believer in you.
Speaker 3: You mean, well, I think he's a believer in that
Speaker 3: life is eternal because he's there. And one thing we
Speaker 3: know is he was very practical about certain things. But
Speaker 3: he was even practicable practical about his magic. He didn't
Speaker 3: leave anything to chance as far as we know. But
Speaker 3: also I can tell you one thing. I was in
Speaker 3: a film by Paul Jeffrey Davids. We were at a
Speaker 3: house that was haunted and Gary Schwartz is there, and
Speaker 3: Whodini's coming in and he's showing me the handcuffs and
Speaker 3: getting them on the table in front of Gary Schwartz.
Speaker 2: I was there.
Speaker 3: No, No, you weren't at that one. You were at
Speaker 3: the other one. This is the one at your friend's
Speaker 3: house up in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 2: No, there was another one.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. Well puts his handcuffs in front of
Speaker 3: Gary and Gary goes, oh my god. Nobody knows this.
Speaker 3: His wife and him had purchased Houdini handcuffs, So.
Speaker 4: Harry knows about all the stuff we're doing here.
Speaker 2: That is fascinating.
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