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Speaker 1: Mel Here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Man. Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with

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Speaker 2: youth Suzanne Wilson, care free Arizona based intuition educator, author,

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Speaker 2: medium and paranormal presenters. She's known as the care Free Medium.

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Speaker 2: She's appeared on Coast Garia Television, Beyond Belief, the Fox

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Speaker 2: News National Audition, and Amazon films. A master's degree in

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Speaker 2: public affairs policy, a bachelor's and management. And here is

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Speaker 2: Susanne Wilson back on Coast to Coast. Hello, Suzanne, how

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Speaker 2: have you been?

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Speaker 3: Hello George, fantastic, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: On, looking forward to this. How did you get involved

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Speaker 2: in mediumship?

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Speaker 3: I was born that way, you know, kind of like

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Speaker 3: the Lady Gaga song. And in my childhood I realized

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Speaker 3: I wasn't sitting in very well at school. So I

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Speaker 3: opened up to my granddad, who was a Presbyterian preacher,

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Speaker 3: and I told him about the things I was seeing

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Speaker 3: lights and colors around people, and to my shock and relief,

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Speaker 3: he told me he saw them too. So I had

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Speaker 3: a pretty good mentor as a child. But you know, George,

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Speaker 3: you just named my education and all of that. Well.

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Speaker 3: I tried to live a normal life and not do

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Speaker 3: anything with the so called wu O stuff for a

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Speaker 3: very long time.

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Speaker 2: But the wou stuff kept coming, didn't it.

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Speaker 4: It came for me. It came for me in a big,

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Speaker 4: big way.

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Speaker 3: It was just a pretty much a hobby for many years.

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Speaker 3: And then in two thousand and seven, I had a

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Speaker 3: wake up call. And that's a near death experience that

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Speaker 3: I've talked about before on the show here. But a

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Speaker 3: lot of people are having spiritually transformative experiences like near

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Speaker 3: death and other things, and I think there's a trend

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Speaker 3: going on there and I'm no different. I'm just a

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Speaker 3: late bloomer.

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Speaker 2: George and your website still carefreemedium dot com.

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Speaker 3: It is, yes, And you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Psychic readings these days. Mediumship, what do you have?

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Speaker 3: I've started back. I was really busy teaching and I

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Speaker 3: do a lot of international travel too, but I have

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Speaker 3: started doing one on one readings. People choose between mediumship

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Speaker 3: and psychech we're talking to guides and I also work

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Speaker 3: with a lot of berief parents. I've done that since

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Speaker 3: the very beginning of a group called Helping Parents Heal.

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Speaker 3: And I know that you've had some folks from there

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Speaker 3: on the show. Have we have over the years, Well,

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Speaker 3: we have a conference for berief parents, do you know,

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Speaker 3: George in person. They sold out a thousand seats in

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Speaker 3: no time and they're streaming it. That's how great the

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Speaker 3: need is for people to get relief from grief.

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Speaker 4: So I'm finding the.

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Speaker 3: Work very, very fulfilling, even after all these years. But

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Speaker 3: I did get a very late start lifelong psychic medium,

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Speaker 3: even though I wasn't using it.

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Speaker 2: When we pass, where do we go?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question. What we have is perhaps

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Speaker 3: of insights. I call it how we know what we

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Speaker 3: think we know? Where we go seems to be dependent

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Speaker 3: at the philosophy of Emmanuel Swedenborg and Heaven and Hell,

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Speaker 3: he talked about people upon arrival being sort of automatically

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Speaker 3: transported by their energy to where they belong on the

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Speaker 3: other side with like minded unlike sort of souls. But

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Speaker 3: there's also a lot of evidence that people can create

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Speaker 3: their own hell on the other side too. Now you

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Speaker 3: and I don't have to worry about that. Your listeners

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Speaker 3: don't have to worry about that. But we seem to

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Speaker 2: Is there a hell, though I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I would call it a hell as in terms of

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Speaker 3: matches our frequency, and the frequency is sort of a

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Speaker 3: collection of all of our acts, how we've treated others

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Speaker 3: I have found is when we look at the deep

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Speaker 3: trance mediums coming through, like for example, Silver Birch through

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Speaker 3: Marris Barbonnel, or monsignor Robert Hugh Benson from Anthony Borgia,

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Speaker 3: of evidence showing us that heaven is perhaps.

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Speaker 4: More real than what we have here, and that.

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Speaker 3: Would include a lower frequency also. But I think it

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Speaker 3: seems like you have to earn what you.

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Speaker 2: Get there when you go to sleep and you're ending

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Speaker 3: Dream, George, this life we're living right now. Some would

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Speaker 3: argue this would be the closest thing to a hell.

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Speaker 3: But I don't feel that way. I feel more positive

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Speaker 3: And I know people are talking about the battle for

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Speaker 3: When I had a near death experience, in just those

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Speaker 2: That was a scary time for you.

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Speaker 3: Though, and wonderful and messed with my head for quite

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Speaker 3: Figured out, I just need to find out what is

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Speaker 3: it that I do in my life that really makes

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Speaker 3: other people. And I'm no Pollyanna, believe me, I really

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Speaker 3: don't feel that way. I just know that since we

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Speaker 2: You know, when you came back, how long were you out?

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Speaker 3: Just a couple of minutes. I had anaphylaxis in a

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Speaker 3: there with his arms around me. But what happens is

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Speaker 3: when I was doing psychic development, sitting in mediumship development circle,

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Speaker 3: I hid all that stuff after the near death, I

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Speaker 2: But you do work. Now, what do you prefer? The

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Speaker 3: Both have a lot to offer people. What I would

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Speaker 3: so they don't need readings and so I think most

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Speaker 3: of us mediums and psychics out there are teachers. We

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Speaker 2: It is one incredible ability to be able to foresee

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Speaker 3: Side, and it doesn't always work, especially mediumship. I just

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Speaker 3: I just say, look, no harm, no foul. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 3: they pick somebody else out. I don't try to force it.

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Speaker 3: I don't pull on the energy. I learned that a

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Speaker 3: long long time ago. There has to be a flow.

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Speaker 3: And I've submitted myself to testing at doctor Gary Schwartz's lab.

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Speaker 3: I've met him eleven twelve years ago, and I've done

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Speaker 4: I want to do a good job.

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Speaker 3: But that's why I say we're in a time now

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Speaker 3: like if you've ever wanted to learn how to connect

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Speaker 2: Our spirit guides, guardian angels.

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Speaker 3: You know we can get really lost in naming things

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Speaker 3: and also I call them interdimensional allies. When we mentioned

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Speaker 3: from the future coming back more evolved. I think that

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Speaker 3: in the unseen world on standby helping us. Angels, I

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Speaker 3: think are a whole different thing. Don't even offer angel readings.

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Speaker 2: Pretty dramatic stuff, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's sometimes I wake up and I go,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe that insane evidence that I got. Somebody

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Speaker 3: to me meant absolutely nothing. It seems so random. They're

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Speaker 3: Because again, there's no real death. This is the dream.

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Speaker 3: The life after this life is the reality in my

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Speaker 2: Do you believe in reincarnation? I was talking about that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, and I believe that it is not

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Speaker 3: I believe that from what I see that we could

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Speaker 3: and they're interwoven together in some way. That there's in

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Speaker 3: the Kajic records, the ether. There's a way to pick

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Speaker 3: seen their doppelganger that looks like them, and they look

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Speaker 3: existence and gotten downloads of information. I mean, it's crazy

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Speaker 2: Why are so many people concerned about dying?

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Speaker 3: The great unknown, the great mystery, the elephant in the room.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think dying though, in your sleep is probably

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, don't we all want that? How do

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Speaker 2: That's how I want to go, in my sleep when

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Speaker 3: You were going to say you would go right at

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Speaker 3: the end of the show saying goodnight.

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Speaker 2: Well not this show.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's all hope that what we have heard in

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Speaker 3: is true that at death, no matter how we physically die,

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Speaker 3: you know that flying, that soaring, feels wonderful getting out

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Speaker 2: Next hour, we're going to take phone calls. But Tom

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd absolutely give it a shot. Of course.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'd ask for a question, a life issue question.

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Speaker 3: How can I help a loved one or a decision

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Speaker 3: with mediumship. You know, it's interesting because Tom had asked,

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Speaker 3: actually I think I just want the caller's first name

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Speaker 3: of what city they're calling from, no confidential information, and

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Speaker 2: They'll just ask you, I want to know about my

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Speaker 3: Well, if that friend is there, great, but what if

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Speaker 3: it's uh, you know, Aunt Susie.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's true. How and Harry Houdini have reacted to you?

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Speaker 3: It's interesting you bring up Houdini. I will in a

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Speaker 3: over there, which will be really cool. I've actually it's

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Speaker 3: gonna sound wild, but hey, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, look at what I do for lav. We we're

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Speaker 4: talking about death.

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Speaker 3: I've actually met Houdini, as have other research lab mediums

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Speaker 3: think he's the big skeptic anymore.

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Speaker 2: He's a believer in you.

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Speaker 3: You mean, well, I think he's a believer in that

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Speaker 3: life is eternal because he's there. And one thing we

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Speaker 3: know is he was very practical about certain things. But

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Speaker 3: he was even practicable practical about his magic. He didn't

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Speaker 3: Whodini's coming in and he's showing me the handcuffs and

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Speaker 2: I was there.

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Speaker 3: No, No, you weren't at that one. You were at

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Speaker 3: the other one. This is the one at your friend's

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Speaker 3: house up in the Hollywood Hills.

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Speaker 2: No, there was another one.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. Well puts his handcuffs in front of

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Speaker 3: Gary and Gary goes, oh my god. Nobody knows this.

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Speaker 3: His wife and him had purchased Houdini handcuffs, So.

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Speaker 4: Harry knows about all the stuff we're doing here.

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Speaker 2: That is fascinating.

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