1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks DJ and 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Buck with you? Buck? How are you doing? Man? 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Good? Man good? 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: Just taking on a full schedule of DJ. We got 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: games and games and games and games to talk about. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a great weekend coming up of football, 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: and this has been a fun weekend. Move the Sticks 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: really kind of our first full in season week so 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: we got a chance to you know, have Baldi on Monday, 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: which was a lot of fun. We had the PPU 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: ret with us to do our recap of the rookie draft, 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: a new rookie draft for the upcoming week. We have 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: these Thursday episodes where we're able to bring in a 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: good buddy. This time it was Mayock who came on. 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Did a great job. Never know where the conversation is 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: going to take you, but it's just fun to kind 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: of freestyle with Mike. And then now we get a 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: chance to look at some of these games that are 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, just a lot of games. And you know how 22 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: this is DJ. 23 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: It takes a while three or four games before you 24 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: know what your team really is. And so we're still 25 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: in the discovery stages of the season. Even though there's 26 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: some people that are already hitting the red button. The 27 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: overreaction thing is in full effect pandemic. That's that's very fair. 28 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: We dug into the Philly case game a little bit 29 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: with Mike. I want to get some of these other 30 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: interesting games that we have coming up this weekend. Uh, 31 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: let's start first of all here Chicago Detroit. One of 32 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: these team is going to be owing to buck. I 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: don't I don't like the generic cheese ball. Who needs 34 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: it more? 35 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Who can? You know, nobody wants to be owing to 36 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: The numbers are not good if you start out ohing too. 37 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: But there's a I almost felt a little edgings coming 38 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: out of Detroit, like, Hey, this is this has to 39 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: have to win, gotta have it type game. 40 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think is more critical for Detroit given the change. 41 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: This is a team that was looking right and high 42 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: last year, a team that many expected to be a 43 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: Super Bowl team and come back and be a Super 44 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: Bowl contendent this year, even though they change coordinators. You 45 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: didn't expect it to be a drop off. Man, it 46 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: heats up in Detroit if they don't get this win 47 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: because now you talk about going from what they were 48 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: season to go to Owen, two new coordinators, a lot 49 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: of conversation we now. 50 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: One listen to sport Stark Radio if they follow up 51 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: on the short. 52 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: None of this, I think on the Chicago side of things, 53 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: uh man, I know everybody's like, you had to finish better. 54 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Started well last week, you got to finish better. I 55 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: think the start in this one's huge because Detroit, you're 56 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: going to get their best shot coming right out the 57 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: gate here. This is a team coming off tough loss. 58 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: Expectations sky high for this team. They're going to want 59 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: to come out and establish a physicality in this game. 60 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: I think that's what they're going to fall back on 61 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: is let's get back to being a real, real physical group. 62 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: I think that's Dan Campbell's identity as a coach. So 63 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: to me, it's a Chicago you better be ready and 64 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: strap on that chin strap nice and is tight early 65 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: on this game because they're going to come out, try 66 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: and run it down your throats and then offensively, hey 67 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: to play smart protect the football early in this ball 68 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: game because I think you're going to get a pretty 69 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: big punch from Detroit coming out the gate. 70 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can get a huge funch. 71 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: And I think what's interesting is the conversation and that 72 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: conversation about Hayley Williams and Ben Johnson and does that 73 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: force both of those guys to get out of character 74 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: when it comes to putting in the game plan, sticking 75 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: with the game plan and those things. We know from 76 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: an emotional standpoint, Detroit is gonna be ready for anything 77 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: and everything, and they're gonna throw a lot at them. 78 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: How quickly can Kaylen Williams settle down? What kind of 79 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: answers does Ben Johnson have on tap to settle the 80 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: young quarterback down? Those are the things that I have 81 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: my eye on when to see this matchup. 82 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna be a very very physical game. 83 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: How about the game you're going to be at Jacksonville Cincinnati? 84 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting game, DJ, And it's interesting because Cincinnati didn't 85 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: play well against Cleveland, but it got the dub offensive leeve. 86 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: They struggled more than they. 87 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: Normally do when you have Joe Burrow on te HI 88 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: against Jamar Chase and look, man, they got so many 89 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: pass catches already to keep up with all of them. 90 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: But you know, to score seventeen points. You didn't have 91 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: a lot of yards. This is one where they are 92 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: backed into the corner. They're gonna come out slinging it. 93 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: To counter that, Travis Hunter is likely to play more 94 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: snaps on defense and a zone based these weekend break 95 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: and drive and make plays on the ball and all 96 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: that is our perfect fit form. I just don't know 97 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: this team is going to be able to play balance 98 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: enough to make it where it look it can be 99 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: an even Stephen game going to the fourth quarter. That's 100 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: from the Jazz perspective. And if you're the Bengals man, 101 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: you want to cook with grease right out the gate. 102 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: You want this offense to heat it because remember they 103 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: have not been a fast, starunning team in the early 104 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: months of the season. Right now they're trending to being 105 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: more of what they've been as opposed to doing something different. 106 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of a stinker offensively, but they 107 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: still found a way to win against the Cleveland Browns. 108 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they can do that against Jacksonville. They've 109 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: got to be better on that side of the ball. 110 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: Pass rush wise. What have you seen from Jacksonville so far? 111 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: I mean, look, they're trying to have an effort but 112 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: I mean going against the Panthers is one thing is 113 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: completely different. Going against the Bengals and having to deal 114 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: with them only the quick rhythm nature of Joe Burrow 115 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: but Lynda Brown on one edge and those things. I'll 116 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: say this about the Jacks, Josh Ains, Allen Tragon Walker. 117 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: They then when it comes to the pass rush, we've 118 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: seen them can buy for twenty five twenty six as 119 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: they have to be at that number. I mean, they 120 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: got to get on the board early because the weapons 121 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: that the Bengals have, you have no shot of defending them. 122 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: If you don't somehow get to the quarterback and make 123 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: him uncomfortable. Those wide receivers chasing Higgins, they'll just make 124 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: you pay for leaving them isolated one on one matchups. 125 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to this game and I think 126 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really, really good game. The one 127 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at is the Monday Night er in Vegas. 128 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: That is, the Chargers and the Raiders as they square off, 129 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: both coming off big wins, and Gino played great. You know, 130 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: Gino has spent time with the Chargers, you know, I 131 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: feel like the organization knows him well and he's He's 132 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: just been a real steady, eddy consistent player since he 133 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: became a starter up there in Seattle. On the job 134 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: he's done and looked great with Chip Kelly Week one. 135 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: They didn't really get Genti super loose in that game, 136 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: had some nice runs physical, So I'm excited to see 137 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: that offense up close and in person. And then on 138 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: the other side of it. You know, Joe Alt's first 139 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: game was against Max Crosby. That was on the other side. 140 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: So now Joe Alt to me, looks even better and 141 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: more comfortable on the left side. So we'll see if 142 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: this Charger offensive line continues to play at the level 143 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: which they played justin Herbert he was in attack mode. Buck. 144 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: They have a total different receiving core than what they've 145 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: had previously, and it's it's kind of fun. It's fun 146 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: to watch when you get a lot of options and 147 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: they can't just take away Ladi McConkie and then you're 148 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: kind of bite your nails. And Quentin Johnston for the 149 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: grief he's taken for, you know, some of the drops 150 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: during his career, he had what eight or nine touchdowns 151 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: last year, had two touchdowns Week one this year. I 152 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if with the coverage he's going to 153 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: get with Keenan Allen out there and with Ladd McConkie, 154 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: if you look it up at the end of the 155 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: year he's got fourteen touchdowns, it wouldn't surprise me at all. 156 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: Now, it wouldn't surprise me. And this is what we 157 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: always talked about. 158 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: The league is a system lead for eighty to eighty 159 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: five percent of the players that are in it, and 160 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 3: being in a system and being in a role that 161 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: kind of fits your skill sets allows you to play 162 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: at a high level. It has taken a few years 163 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: for the Charges to figure out what Johnson should be, 164 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: but it's very very clear where he is on the 165 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: predicting order, how they utilize him, that that unlocks his 166 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: superpowers and so terrific number three receiver. Wherever they use 167 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: him higher they continue to use him. He gives you 168 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: that come from the norm. 169 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: Man. 170 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: I got a really good player at really good playmaker 171 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: that can make some things happen if he's locked in 172 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: and focus. 173 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, anytime you get Derwin James dayon Henley 174 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: rock Bowers like that little triangle of three athletes. I'm 175 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: looking forward to see that Hopefully brock Bowers is healthy 176 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: and rare to go and we see hit the best 177 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: of what he brings, because that's going to be a 178 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: really really fun matchup. All right, let's get to another 179 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: game here, Denver and Indy again, two teams coming off 180 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: big wins. 181 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: Man, this is a good one. Two teams coming off 182 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: big wins. I'm gonna take the Denver side, and the 183 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: Denver side that. 184 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: I want to lean into is the defense, and the 185 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: defense continue to be lights out vance Joseph has done 186 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: a terrific job of taking a defense that once gave 187 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: up seventy cutting down having him playing as physical and feisty. 188 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: The other thing is this defense can win it on 189 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: his own, but they're gonna need to get contributions, more 190 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: contributions from the offense. Camp Bo Nicks get this team 191 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: up and going. Can they discover the running game. Can 192 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: they find ways to control the game so there's not 193 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: so much on pressure on the defense. They have to 194 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: shut down averybody. 195 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: On the other side of it. You know, look at 196 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Indian as well as Daniel Jones played last week. Can 197 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: he keep that rolling? I think the middle of the field, 198 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: I think there's some opportunities there. I don't think that 199 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee cashed in on all those last week in that ballgame. 200 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: That's a really good defense, don't get me wrong. But 201 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Denver just I mean, if Andy just gets the Daniel 202 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: Jones they saw last week, they're going to be in 203 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: this game because I don't think their defense is going 204 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: to get run over in this They are physical, They 205 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: play really really hard up there in their front seven. 206 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: Lou and Aromo kind of a This is like a 207 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: little bit of a I would say, a retribution tour 208 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: season for him. I mean, he's you don't just get 209 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: label as one of the best defensive coaches for all 210 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: those years and all of a sudden you have one clunker. 211 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: It's like the guy, God, how to coach ball? Like, 212 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: that's not it's not the case. 213 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: That is not the case. 214 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: But that's kind of how we treat them. We don't 215 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: have patience, we don't have grace or empathy when guys 216 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: are going through it. We expect them to continue to 217 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: pick up whether they left off injured or not. 218 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: It's not the case. 219 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: And the thing about all of it is like just 220 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: trying to bounce back, trying to get yourself back on 221 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: track and so we'll see what this looks like. 222 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Let's do one more. We take a break here, Giants, Cowboys. 223 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: Let's go to Cowboys, and let's go with Brian schat Nheimer. 224 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 3: And I believe the Cowboys walked away with their game 225 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: versus Philly with a lot of confidence. 226 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: First game without Michael Parsons. They looked around, They're like, hey, 227 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: we're still here. 228 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: Maybe we can be one of the rare teams that 229 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: addition by subtraction works out for them when it comes 230 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 3: to their playoff hopes and those things. 231 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: I'll say, Maddie Recluse. 232 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: Defense played hard, they played well, they were connected, and look, 233 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: you get out hit and out hustle a lot of teams. 234 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: And if the Cowboys buy into their brand, makes them 235 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: a different kind of team to face. And then with 236 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: the offense, Ceey Lamb, you think about Pickens and what 237 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: they want to do with Dak Prescott. They want to 238 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: throw the ball all over the yard? Can they control 239 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: it with the passing game? To say they're running their 240 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: defense up for success. To me, that's why I'm looking 241 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: at how Brian Schottenheimer manages the game to really protect 242 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: the defense that he just want out there for a bunch. 243 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: Of snaps, all right. I think this is a toe 244 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: in the water game for the Giants. I think this 245 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: is Jackson Dart. I think this is we're going to 246 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: give you a series, We're going to give you a 247 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: package of plays, however you want to say it. I 248 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: don't think that they're going to keep baby in the 249 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: corner any longer. I think they're going to let him 250 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: get They're going to get a little taste Jackson Dart 251 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: in this game. Buck. And I'm just telling you if 252 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: this is my opinion, no inside information, have not talked 253 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: to anybody there, but this just feels to me like 254 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: if it's as ugly as it was with Russell Wilson 255 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: in this offense last week, I don't know when it 256 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: will be on a second quarter, third quarter. I think 257 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: they say, well, it's going to give just to give 258 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: the rookie a little bit, and however he does that 259 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: little bit, my mean, we get a little bit more. 260 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: That's just what it feels like to me on the 261 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: outside looking at So I'm intrigued to watch it to 262 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: see what that looks like for them offensively and then defensively. 263 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: Going back through that tape, I know that you know, 264 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: the production might not show it. I'm telling you, man, 265 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: when you watch Abdul Carter and you watch how they're 266 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: starting to get him on gos and now if they 267 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: can just get that spaced out, fanned out a little 268 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: bit more. I know Dallas offensive line played really really 269 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: well against Philly. They were able to get some movement there. 270 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: But man, I don't want to be I don't want 271 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: to be a guard with a three way go an 272 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: Abdul Carter in my way. I don't want any part 273 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: of that. 274 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 2: No, you don't want any part. 275 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: And the Giants have to give people to smoke when 276 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: it comes to their defense. Their defense is problematic. With 277 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: three legitimate high am pass rushers at the disposal on 278 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: the edges and that's the larneman on the inside. 279 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: They can get after you in a variety of ways. 280 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: But I worry about their inability to put points up, 281 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: like how long can you keep this defense is running 282 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: and playing hard when they're not necessarily doing it on 283 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: the other end. That's a very frustrating deal that they're 284 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: having to kind of cope with. And so maybe you're 285 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: right a little toe in the water game, Little Jackson, 286 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: dark game to kind of keep us intrigued, to kind 287 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: of keep the antennas up to kind of stay to us. Oh, 288 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 3: maybe they are just about when they can put the 289 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 3: young guy in. Maybe he's gonna be there. We got 290 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: to step up and do those things. No easy answer 291 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: when it comes to it, but you you know, and 292 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: I know Jackson has to get in the games. 293 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, it just feels like it feels like that 294 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: might be something we see. Let's take a quick break. 295 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: I've got a coaching conversation I want to have with you. 296 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna catch you off guard with this one, but 297 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction right after this. All right, Buck, 298 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't like hot seat talk. And we're talking about 299 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: colleges right here. But now you look around the country 300 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: and you see and whispers are already out there. And 301 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Florida Gators had a tough loss against South Florida. They've 302 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: got a brutal schedule up ahead here. So who's already 303 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: been talking about Hey, Billy Napier, what does that look like? 304 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: You know it's his job safe. You hear Alabama with 305 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: their you know, early season loss, people are already talking about, hey, 306 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: we can come up with the buyout money. For Kailin 307 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: de boor if this thing doesn't work out. So in 308 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: a year last year where there's very little movement, very 309 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: very few opportunities for coaching changes, looks like this year 310 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: some places we're going to see that. So this was 311 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: a name that came up the other day, and it's 312 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: someone that you've been around, and I thought, you know what, 313 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: I haven't asked Bucky this, So I'm just straight up, 314 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: you tell me, would it work or would it not work? 315 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: John Gruden as a college head coach, I think. 316 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 3: He's laying the foundation for He's been on college campuses 317 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: more than I've ever seen him, giving pre aim talks 318 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: and meeting and meeting rooms. I think this is to 319 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: visually help chancellors and presidents get used to the visual 320 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: of John Gruden leading a squad, and because the college 321 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: game has become more like the pro game, I absolutely 322 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: can see him wanting to the tires and see if 323 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: he can do it. Look, he coached me back in 324 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: ninety eight ninety nine when he was young and hip, 325 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: and he was kind of like the coach that was 326 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: celebrated as kind of being the players coach and who 327 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: has it all. 328 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: He's older now but he's still a really good coach. 329 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: I would love to kind of see what he's able 330 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: to do in the collegiate game because it's vastly different 331 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: than what the league was when he left. 332 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: It. 333 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: Is it fair to judge him off how Belichick does? Yes, 334 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean it away, I mean only different, though, I 335 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: mean I don't think that they are. 336 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I only think in terms of like just 337 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: the acclimation period, Like how long does it take him 338 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: to acclimate to being a college coach as opposed to 339 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: our pro coach? The different things that you're dealing with, 340 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: different touch points where people have to come at you 341 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: and talk to you about certain things. How does he 342 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: handle that part of it? It is your show more 343 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: so in college, but there's still some people to answer to. 344 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: Does he navigate that part of it to get the 345 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: job to look like you need? 346 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: So my question, and someone who's been around him, everything 347 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: that I know about Gruden is just the challenge of 348 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: playing quarterback for him is because of the complexities, the verbiage, 349 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: all those different things, and college has become a transient sport. 350 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: So you got eighteen to twenty two year olds, you 351 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: got them coming and going, you got transfers coming in 352 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: all the time, you got young guys, you got to 353 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: get out in the field. He'd have to dumb that 354 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: down a little bit, wouldn't he. 355 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: I think so. But I think he. I think he's 356 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: willing to know. 357 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: I think the things that have helped him since he's 358 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: been out the league and the things that helped him 359 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: before he was out and he was back, he's deal 360 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: with a lot of young players. He's had to talk 361 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: to him and counsel them and figure out what they 362 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: like and what they don't like. And we've seen him 363 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: get frustrated. I mean even was the last year Jackson 364 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: Dark going and telling them to snap count and he 365 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: was like, he was like, oh no, that doesn't work 366 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: for me. But I think I think he still has 367 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: enough cashe the young quarterbacks and young players will want 368 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: to play for him. And then it's about him adapting 369 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: his scheme, his style or whatever to the collegiate game. 370 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: But in today's climbing man, there's a way for everyone 371 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: to be able to win and be successful. 372 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: I think he can figure out a. 373 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Way to win. I think I think he's always been 374 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: a really, really good coach. He's been a great game planner, 375 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: a great game caller. Players who play for him almost 376 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: universally love him. I don't ever really hear anything bad 377 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: about him. Everybody loves him. And I think you mentioned 378 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: like being on college campuses and laying the groundwork. I'd 379 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: also say, like him doing stuff with Barstool. Yes, to me, 380 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: like Barstool is very is very popular with with kids 381 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: in that college age group. So he's made himself relevant 382 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: to a whole new generation by by you know, doing 383 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: stuff with them. And so I don't know, it seems 384 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: to me like it would be something he would really covet. 385 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: And like I don't know which job is going to 386 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: come open, and I don't know like where the level 387 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: is where you'd be comfortable taking a little bit of 388 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: a risk for somebody who hasn't been at the college level, 389 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: but you know, at least in the last halver of 390 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: many years. So I think, Man, I think it's an 391 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: easy sell when recruiting. I know, you got to have 392 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: money now, but you go to one of these big programs, 393 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: they all have money. But it's like, man, I will 394 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: get you ready. I am going to get you ready 395 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: for the NFL, just as Belichick's going to sell that 396 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for the NFL. It's just now you've 397 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: got an offensive guy. And I think the college game 398 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: is kind of morphed into an offensive game. Man, Like, 399 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: you can't score a bunch of points, you're not going 400 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: to win. 401 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: I mean, And there's also a fun factor in college 402 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: People pay. 403 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: They pay big money to come to games, and they 404 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: want to be entertained. 405 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: And as much as I love defense, you're not going 406 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: to have a lot of thirteen ten games being well attended, 407 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: Like people have a tendency to check out. Yeah, but look, 408 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: it's a fascinating discussion, is it really. I'm really curious 409 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: in terms of if Ruden gets to pick the team, 410 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: what's the team that he gravitates towards, and then in reality, 411 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: what are the teams that look for that type of 412 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: lead at that time to play called I. 413 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Would think first and foremost he'd be able to recruit 414 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I think you'd get quarterbacks that would want 415 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: to go play for him, be trained by him. It's 416 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: a specialty of his. The Gruden QB camp is the 417 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: selling point to me. You want to know what it's 418 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: like to get coached by this guy, get on YouTube. 419 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: You can watch a bazillion episodes of him, you know, 420 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: breaking down tape and talking ball with all these quarterbacks 421 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: that you watch on Sundays. So I don't know. I 422 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: think it'd be fun. I think it'd be fun for 423 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: the college game. I think it'd be fun for him. 424 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: I think he'd be invigorated by it. It was just 425 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: something I wanted to approach with you because it came 426 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: up the other day when I was talking to somebody about, 427 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, who's going to fill these openings, like who's 428 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: gonna you know, what does the movement look like? And 429 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: that was a name that came up, and I thought 430 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: I got a hit buck on that one. 431 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I mean it's a lot of movement, and 432 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: we're at a time where not quite silly season, but 433 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: it is funny to kind of play a little matchmaker 434 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: when you feel like to see this warming awesome repid 435 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: your coaches. Hopefully they able to stave it off, so 436 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: hoping they get better performances they stay out of the 437 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: lost column. But you know, like I know, the vultures 438 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 3: are circling. 439 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding. 440 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: We had a coach. We had a coach and I 441 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: was with the NFL team that had a whiteboard in 442 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: his office and all he had was a list of 443 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: colleges and he had him color coded and it was 444 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: like blue or like green, like purple red. And I 445 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: was like, I came in there and I was like, well, COLI, 446 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: He's like, oh no, this is like our job board. 447 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: So this is red means there for sure getting fired, 448 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, and then it goes kind of on up 449 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: the up the colors. But it was something that the 450 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: coaches kind of kept alive. But it's just a different 451 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: culture in the coach and the world buddies. 452 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: No question. 453 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: All right, that's a quick one today, looking forward to 454 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: some great games. We'll be back on Monday with Baldy 455 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: joining the show as we break this whole thing down. 456 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: I'll be coming to you from from Vegas because I'll 457 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: be out there for Monday night. So we will look 458 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: forward to having you join us at that point in time. 459 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: Right here on sticks