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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Don't care about your mock drafts.

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Speaker 1: Don't need too because they're all the baby. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of You Around the NFL Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis come to you from a virtual room

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Speaker 1: filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Mark listen.

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Speaker 1: It's our one Saturday show of the year. If you

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Speaker 1: ever had a chance to cut loose and put on

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Speaker 1: one of your little cute little Star Wars shirts, uh,

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Speaker 1: this was the time. But here you are in a

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Speaker 1: full on button down like it's Tuesday afternoon for the

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Speaker 1: big meeting with the boss. Well, I see what you're saying, um,

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Speaker 1: and I understand, But I also just had like two

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Speaker 1: extra buttons, just undone all day. It was just sort

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Speaker 1: of wandering around my house, which resembles sort of a

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Speaker 1: war zone right now because um, simone poorly is is

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Speaker 1: dealing with the with the second vaccine and it's conked

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Speaker 1: out on the couch and the children are running around

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Speaker 1: like it's on nico AGAs I attempt to speak with

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Speaker 1: you about the events of the past two days. It's

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Speaker 1: like bazookas in the back of pickup trucks driving around

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Speaker 1: at that's just how imagined Nicaragua was about forty years

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Speaker 1: That's the scene Mark Mark. Um, I feel like you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't know that he's from Connecticut. But one thing I

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Speaker 1: think he retains from his Connectic upbringing is he does

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Speaker 1: wear button down shirts and shorts on a Saturday, like

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Speaker 1: he was like Mark's coming by in a button down shirt.

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Speaker 1: That's just it's always like collared shirts. Um with the

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Speaker 1: way that I look. Um T shirts don't always get

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Speaker 1: it done until I improved the health. So the college

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Speaker 1: shirts hide in disguise a lot. If there's one thing

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Speaker 1: with Mark, it's like college shirts boat shooes and talking

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Speaker 1: about the yacht, you know in the harbor's like I

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Speaker 1: gotta tew that thing out of there. I gotta read

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Speaker 1: the floors. I got to talk to the harbor master.

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Speaker 1: We're lucky. We even have a second lease car right now.

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Speaker 1: So totally off the off the alright, the draft is over.

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Speaker 1: Round seven has concluded. NFL Draft is in the books. Um,

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Speaker 1: it felt normal. I mean, I know it's still different

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Speaker 1: and the fact that hunt. For instance, during the Round

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Speaker 1: one on Thursday night, there was a graphic a graphic

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Speaker 1: that said fully vaccinated Draft room, which still is the

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Speaker 1: funniest thing of the draft for me. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: all sorts of signs that things are not totally normal,

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Speaker 1: but this did feel like the draft, and it's totally

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Speaker 1: different than last year for instance. Uh. And as I've

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Speaker 1: said many times before, at the end of at the

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Speaker 1: end of round seven, it's the most hopeful time of

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Speaker 1: year in the NFL because everybody thinks, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: there's always a couple outliers that their team nailed the draft.

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Speaker 1: Every GM cannot believe his luck about who fell to

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Speaker 1: them where. Uh. And on balance, you look at the

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Speaker 1: top of your draft especially and you see impact star

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Speaker 1: work out that way. But for right now you get

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Speaker 1: to look at your new roster and new depth charts

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Speaker 1: and see just a gorgeous alignment of rising stars. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that's true for thirty one teams. And then

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Speaker 1: there's the Texans, so you know, they're like they're fans.

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Speaker 1: Their fans are in a tough spot right now. Things

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Speaker 1: will get better eventually, but I don't think they're feeling optimistic.

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Speaker 1: But you're right about it, like the return of normalcy.

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Speaker 1: These these rookies too, are gonna do a mini camp.

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Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of reports about, you know,

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Speaker 1: what team veterans aren't showing up and when, and that

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Speaker 1: And maybe I've always felt this way, but I feel like,

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Speaker 1: leak figure corporate jargon, Greg, Now that free agency is

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, who they they tore it all the way down.

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Speaker 1: this year is going to be I mean, the expectations

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Speaker 1: I would view the last forty eight plus hours as

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Speaker 1: reason exciting UM player. He was teammates with Chavon to Williams.

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Speaker 1: He did a really nice job, Douglas setting the team

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Speaker 1: I've come out of this really excited. They take four

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Speaker 1: I'm on ros St Brown as Jared Goff's UM cast

429
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Speaker 1: of whiteouts. And you know the thing is, here's the thing.

430
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Speaker 1: In one way, you could call Jared Goff a winner

431
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 1: because they maybe they could have gone and drafted justin

432
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: fields and Jared Goff is getting golfed all over again.

433
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: So he's the clear cut starter. He's going to get

434
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: a chance to to do it, but he's walking into

435
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: an offense that's sort of the opposite of what he

436
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: encountered with um Sean mcveigh's rams where they're not ready

437
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: to go. They look really stuck in the mud, and like,

438
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: I like what this front office is doing. Ramps or

439
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: Lions fans are understandably sensitive, and I even got some

440
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: tweets last week. Um, but look at like Brad Holmes

441
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 1: is a good GM. They're dug in on the future.

442
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 1: It's just think it's gonna be a tough watch an

443
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: offense this year. And you're you're kind of coming at

444
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: it from two angles of it here, because I'm asking

445
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: you who is you don't like or didn't like. They're

446
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: drafting or free agency too much, and it does feel

447
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: like this is all again part of a plan. They're

448
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 1: not looking to make a huge splash. I guess at

449
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: a position like wide receiver, maybe because you know the

450
00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: old major, they're gonna coming right, But that's that might

451
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: be the point. I mean, they're they're they're okay, going

452
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: three and fourteen this year, because this is not they

453
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 1: understand that this is gonna be a tough year regardless. Really, so,

454
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I if I came on here

455
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: and said, I just love what the Lions have done. Um,

456
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I like school, but I love everything else

457
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: about their off season. And they have no wide receivers.

458
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember a game last year where the

459
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Speaker 1: Browns played the Jets with no wide receivers, and that

460
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more of an embarrassment. So you know,

461
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: you've gotta you've gotta give something. I guess I guess

462
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I almost separate the Lions from

463
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: these type of discussions because they're doing something different to

464
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: me than what these other teams are doing. But that's well,

465
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: that's what they're They're trying to prove a point. And

466
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: so their their first three draft picks added up to

467
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: nine d and thirty eight pounds combined. You know, they

468
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: they're doing what Gettlman did when he arrived in just

469
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: like we're gonna take some big uglies here here. I

470
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Speaker 1: want to read you a quote from their second round pick,

471
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Speaker 1: uh and New Lions favorite favorite Levi Levi owned Moseriki,

472
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: the NSE of tackle, who said, I like to people up.

473
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: I like to get off the line and just put

474
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Speaker 1: my helmet on or my hands on an offensive lineman

475
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: and the offensive screen. I like pushing him back to

476
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Speaker 1: three yards and just making him feel like this is

477
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Speaker 1: the draft defensive tackle and hopefully my children who are

478
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: like right there. That sounds like a professional wrestler. He's

479
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: he's like Dan Campbell as a player. They basically just

480
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: like drafted a bunch of like pound Dan Campbell. So

481
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Speaker 1: I like it. Um all right, you mentioned by the

482
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Speaker 1: way the Texans, and that brings me to my maybe

483
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: we could kind of take turns hitting on things that

484
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: we that jumped out to us. I wanted to talk

485
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Speaker 1: about notable quarterback moves made in the last two days

486
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Speaker 1: of the draft. So the Texans, they didn't have a

487
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Speaker 1: first or a second round pick because of the various

488
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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien handywork of recent year until trade the Tuncil traded,

489
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Speaker 1: the Laramie Tuncil trade, which has drained this organization on

490
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: such a level that you know they're still digging out.

491
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Speaker 1: But they finally come up in the draft in the

492
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Speaker 1: third round. And what do they do they use it

493
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Speaker 1: on a quarterback. Davis Mills at a Stanford the third

494
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Speaker 1: round pick, and you know, to me and I Rich

495
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: Eyes and on our airways was incredulous about the whole thing.

496
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: But I mean it just it speaks to this organization

497
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: is turning the page on Deshaun Watson. Uh, and you

498
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: it's on two levels because if you think about it,

499
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Speaker 1: before the legal issues came, Deshaun Watson said, I essentially

500
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: hate this team. I don't like the management. I don't

501
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: want to be here. Get me out of here. Then

502
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: the legal stuff happens, and that's still unfolding, and we

503
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: don't know how deep and how far the road that's

504
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: gonna go in terms of changing his career and his life.

505
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: Either way, though it's not like the legal proceedings helped

506
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: his chances of staying in Houston long term, I still

507
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: feel like that's this marriage is ending one way or

508
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: the other. So it made a lot of sense to me.

509
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: But also I would think it's just sobering as a

510
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: Texans fan to know that you have Tyrod Taylor under

511
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: contract for a year and now you got the Stanford

512
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Speaker 1: kid in the building, and it's like four months ago,

513
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: we had like the top four quarterback in the league,

514
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: and everything is changing and not for the better. Yeah,

515
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do is start Tyrod seventeenth three weeks.

516
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: It totally made sense to me. A lot of people

517
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Speaker 1: like Davis Mills as a you know, as that sixth quarterback.

518
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: There were different opinions about him the most valuable position.

519
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: You have no depth like Ryan Finley is there, and

520
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: I think I think it made a lot of sense

521
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: to to have someone that at least you try. You

522
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: gotta start taking swings now, because you're right, it would

523
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: be a stunning if Deshaun Watson ever plays football for

524
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Speaker 1: the Texans again. And and the fact that they're not

525
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: talking about that publicly, they don't have to. There's ongoing

526
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, sexual assault cases. It's obvious what's going on there.

527
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: Because that so it made sense. I mean, you know,

528
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Speaker 1: because the hard thing is I think that the coach

529
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Speaker 1: and GM, who have nothing to do with any of

530
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: this drama. Um in another world would be looked on

531
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: in sunny or fashion. I just it's like they they

532
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: got air dropped into a really tough situation. I have

533
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: no problem with them taking a quarterback to Greg's point,

534
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: Look at you're gonna have players gathering in the next

535
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: weeks and months. You've you've got to, like, you've got

536
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: to fortify every possible position. If if Cassario has done

537
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: one thing, he's spent you know, little amounts of money

538
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: on lots of players to just basically field as deep

539
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: a roster as possible, a good roster. No, but he's

540
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: coming and essentially he's operating like someone from FEMA, and

541
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: that's what they're dealing with. And I think it's starting

542
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: to wait, if you're a fan, you're starting to work

543
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: up a chance finally, right, I don't know, I mean,

544
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: why are we still like in those worlds of narrative?

545
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean, is fine, backup, but these fourteen fifteen months

546
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: have been starting with that DeAndre Hopkins trade to where

547
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: we are now as a Texans Texans van you're really struggling.

548
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: And that the part of the reason Casserio is not

549
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: getting the benefit of the doubt is because the guy

550
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: who was the second most important in making all of

551
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: those moves is still there and hired. Right, So it's

552
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: really not a fresh start, it's a continuation. The Saints

553
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: made a move, they take Ian book um Notre Dame.

554
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: Like some of these names in the draft this year.

555
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: It's like remember in when you played Nintendo games and

556
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: your kid, and it was before they had licensing agreements

557
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: with the various leagues, so they would have to make

558
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: up player names. They get quite creative and they're just like,

559
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I that's a name. That's fine. I mean,

560
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: that's the all time Notre Dame leader in passing yards.

561
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. I know you're a I'm not a

562
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: huge fan, but you've probably had more airtime than any

563
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: college football player in the last four years, other than

564
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence because he's on Notre Dame and he

565
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: started forever. I loosely identify myself as a Notre Dame

566
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: fan going back to when I was a kid. I

567
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: used to root for them, mostly because they were on

568
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: NBC every week. My town was in Irish Town, so

569
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: I was just like, all right, I guess I'll root

570
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. But I was like, kind of it

571
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: was catching my attention that every offensive lineman a Notre

572
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: Dame like got drafted within three rounds, and like, how

573
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: come they had? They would not win a national title?

574
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: If all these like NFL studs blocking in front of Uh,

575
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: this this gentleman Mr. Book, who, yes, when thirty and

576
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: five as a starter, he's the winningest quarterback in Notre

577
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: Dame history. Here. Look he's built like Drew Brees six

578
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: ft two eleven pounds. So yes, he's a fourth round pick.

579
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: So it's a ultimately a dart throw, but just interesting

580
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: in that room because it's an interesting, compelling quarterback conversation

581
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: right now. In New Orleans, Jameis Winston's there on a

582
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: short term deal, Taysom Hills there on a short term deal,

583
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: and now you have this fourth round pick that they

584
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: obviously like. I guess if you're a quarterback on the

585
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: fringe or people are doubting you enough where you fall

586
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: to the fourth round, there are a couple of spots

587
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: where you'd think, I know, I know who can maximize

588
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: my skills and put me in a position to succeed.

589
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: Sean Payton in New Orleans would be a top that

590
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: list right there with Kyle Shanahan, right, especially a short

591
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: guy like like Book who's about breezes height. Uh. It

592
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: does point out that that I was stunned they didn't

593
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: take any receivers again. Um, you know our friend Adam

594
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: at the Saints Twitter podcast, he he pointed out they

595
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: they've drafted two receivers. There's a little bit of Sean

596
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: Payton like Hubris that like, we don't need offensive playmakers.

597
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: It's just putting a lot on Chimera and Thomas. Like

598
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: if you're missing one of those guys, and now that

599
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: Drew Brees isn't there, it's like they're they're a little thin.

600
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: I was really surprised they didn't take a receiver in

601
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Speaker 1: this class. I mean, at least they took Peyton Turner

602
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: at number overall, someone that you know, people plugged into

603
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: the draft. We're basically saying, who is this guy? I mean,

604
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: it was the reaction from Saints fans when that happened

605
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: was um close to an apocalypse on some level. And

606
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: then sticking in the FC. In the NFC North the

607
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: Vikings maker move. Also in the third round, they select

608
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: Kellen Mond at a Texas A and M, which prompted

609
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: a former teammate of Kirk Cousins to chime in. Robert

610
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: Griffin the third who is currently a free agent by

611
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: the way, Bob is and but he was formerly the

612
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: starting QB the Cousins backup in Washington. In fact, they

613
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: were drafted together. R G three was number two overall

614
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: after a megatrade by Washington that backfired spectacularly, and Cousins

615
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: was drafted I believe in the fourth round, ended up

616
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Speaker 1: taking his job and Cousins, you know, a bit of

617
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: a divisive, uh figure. This is what Griffin had to

618
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: say on a Bleacher Report program about the move. I

619
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: can tell you right now Number eight in Minnesota is

620
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: probably not real happy right now because Kellaman represents exactly

621
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: what he doesn't do well. Right. Kelluman is the big

622
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: physical quarterback. You can run it, throw it all over

623
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Speaker 1: the field, um, and I don't think that that's something

624
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: that number eight is able to do in Cousins in Minnesota.

625
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: He added that he added that Cousins has been cash

626
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: and checks. I believe it was. He said he's been

627
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: been collecting those checks with a lot of eight and

628
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: eight and nine and seven records. So you can you

629
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: can be sure that Griffin does not look back on

630
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: his time with with Cousins and the Shanahan's too fun

631
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: and it's not a shock man. I mean, I kind

632
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: of got the sense that like R. G three was

633
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: sort of trying out for a TV gig where he's like,

634
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: bring your hottest take and like while you're at it,

635
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: like take a former teammate and separate them into like

636
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: two thousand parts. I mean that's like he said, he

637
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: represents everything that Kirk Cousins doesn't do well. A big armed,

638
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: athletic guy. I mean, I get it. He they did

639
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: kind of they did draft like a very tools e

640
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: opposite of Kirk Cousins guy at the top of the

641
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Speaker 1: third round. I yeah, for for all that Griffin you

642
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Speaker 1: know has an ax to grind. If the if the

643
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: Vikings are six and eight after fourteen weeks, but you

644
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: better believe Vikings fans are asking for Kellen mon and

645
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: they might get him, like you know, they might get him.

646
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: And by the way, that's right. If there's a playbook

647
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: for getting your broadcasting career off the ground as a

648
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: former player, there's a couple moves you could do. One

649
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: is you could if you have like a really good

650
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: relationship with an iconic player or coach and you could

651
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: have either scoopidge or just inside on where that guy

652
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: or where that team is coming from. That's a great move.

653
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Or you could use your new platform to eviscerate your enemies.

654
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: Uh and and that's gonna get buzz and and maybe

655
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of pop in a way

656
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: that a pop that you desire. See On one hand,

657
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: like I'm doing the same thing. I'm saying like, yeah,

658
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: he's killing the other like he was speaking facts and

659
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: like we always want these analysts to not like, you know,

660
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: tiptoe around. Nobody's killing our g three, we're not like

661
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I liked it. It was only the

662
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: best quote of the entire weekend Cousins and Cousins just

663
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: isn't very well. Like, I don't think he's hated. It

664
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: seems like whatever locker room he goes into, it doesn't

665
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: seem like he goes comes out of there making friends

666
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: for life. I mean that is such a generalization as

667
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: something that's never been in the locker room with Kirk Cousins.

668
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know, you just kind of you kind

669
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: of get that vibe. And and I mentioned Cousins like

670
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: we're talking about him a week ago or so. And

671
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: I still believe it that it's a bit of a

672
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: tough situation there now because he joined a team as

673
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: the final piece and everything else was loaded up to

674
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl in Minnesota, and I don't

675
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: think that's where they are anymore. And yet he's still

676
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: they are still being Kirk Cousins, and it just puts

677
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: them in a spot where they I think they're just

678
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: gonna kind of live in this middle earth of the NFL.

679
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: And to take that one step further, I mean, you know,

680
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: maybe Mind is going to be fantastic and we'll and

681
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: we'll all wonder why he fell as far as he did.

682
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: But the vikings on offense to me sometimes or just

683
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: in general, feel like a team of half measures, like

684
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: they were in striking distance to make a move to

685
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: go get one of the top quarterbacks, and there was

686
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: no effort to do that. So you're bringing in a

687
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: guy they said they didn't They said they didn't consider it.

688
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: It is worth remembering they guaranteed Cousins an extra year

689
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: of money before last year, so it's this year and

690
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: next year he's guaranteed, So don't Timeline is not sure.

691
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't think Cousins would have um so called issues

692
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: in the locker room to the same degree if he

693
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: were like twenty better, right, I mean that factors, but

694
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's pretty damp productive when you look at number.

695
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Their offense was the funny thing though, is their offense

696
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: was the best Vikings offense. I'd have to I'd have

697
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: to look but since Brett, certainly since that Brett Farve

698
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: NFC championship year, and certainly the best of the Kirk

699
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: Cousins a couple of years, and better than when they

700
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: went to the NFC Championship. Their offense was really good

701
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: last year. Do you but do you think it's a

702
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: top ten offense? I just don't view Kirk Cousins is

703
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: like in that zone where it's like we've got our guy,

704
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: Like you don't think other players are thinking, Like I

705
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: wonder if it's it's all water under the bridge now

706
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: or there's not even a bridge or water because it's

707
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: it just doesn't exist because the four Niners just traded

708
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: everything to go and get Trey Lance. But I wonder

709
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: if Kyle Shannon ever asked if John Lynch wouldn't mind

710
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: picking up the phone and call in Minnesota, because if

711
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: we knew that Shanahan had a longstanding uh love of

712
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins play as a quarterback, But that never you

713
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: never really heard a lot about that. I think it's

714
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: like his salary and Jimmy Chi's salary together is like

715
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: why not go by like a castle in Sweden while

716
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: you're at it. I mean, we're getting into a lot

717
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: of money. I don't know. Maybe Jimmy g would go

718
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: back to Minnesota, but anyway, that doesn't matter, all right,

719
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: anybody else I want to jump in with something that

720
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: they took away from the last couple of days. While

721
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: we're on the quarterbacks, we might as well throw in

722
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: the bucks took Kyle Trask, which you know, it's probably

723
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: the seventies seven quarterback to be drafted behind Tom Brady,

724
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: many of them in in the for the second and

725
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: third rounds. People kind of forget, like Kevin, Kevin O'Connell

726
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: back in the day, Jacoby Brisette, Jimmy Garoppolo and and Trash.

727
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Listening to Arians on NFL Network, he's I don't doubt

728
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: that they believe Trask fits that offense perfectly. It did

729
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: make me think like, could Arians ever stay around here

730
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: after Brady leaves, because otherwise it's definitely a plan for

731
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: the future type of move I don't know if a

732
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: lot of analysis needs to be said about it, but

733
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: it's like, that's a move that you make thinking Bruce

734
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: Arians is gonna be around. I guess we'll see and eventually,

735
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: eventually someone's gonna replace Tom Brady, Like somebody will be

736
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: drafted to replace a retiring Tom Brady. And that's how

737
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: it plays out. Maybe it's this dude as Tom Brady

738
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: enters is second round pick, second round pick. How about

739
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert showing up? You know it's UFC, you know

740
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: number whatever last week and and you know they pant

741
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: to you know, Bucks Super Bowl champions, Tom Brady, Mike Evans,

742
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: the all time leader in Buck's receiving yards, and Blaine

743
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: gather That's that's the trio. I mean, look at one thing,

744
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: like I'd don't think it's Bruce Arians has to stick

745
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: around for seven more years. I've always probably been given

746
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: a lot of new energy. But Byron Leftwich, I could

747
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: see them just handy the coaching seat right over to

748
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich. Same GM and Kyle Trask, who is very

749
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Like, let's see, yeah, you had Lawrence Wilson,

750
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: Lance Fields Jones. I'll go round one, and then Kyle

751
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: Trask went round to pick thirty two, and then mind

752
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: picked two of round three, Davis Mills the third pick

753
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: of round three, book pick of round four, and Sam

754
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: Ellinger out of Texas to the Colts in the sixth round.

755
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: UH pick thirty four the sixth round. Interesting always and

756
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: one of those guys, you know, one of those guys

757
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a superstar, a bunch of them will be terrible,

758
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: and a couple of guys will be in the middle.

759
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: What else I'll throw out the Dolphins. His worst moment

760
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: of the draft was when the Broncos traded up to

761
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: take Davante Williams UH in the second round. That was

762
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people thought Javonte Williams was

763
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: the best running back in this class. He's complete, kind

764
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: of a Frank Gore type, I think, dynamic, and it

765
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: just got me thinking, like, the Broncos are making picks

766
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: like they're the defending Super Bowl champions. Here they're taking

767
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: a cornerback in the top ten when they have the

768
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: most loaded secondary in the league before taking that cornerback,

769
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: and then they're trading up to take a running back

770
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: and they've got Melvin Gordon already there. They let Philip

771
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: Lindsay go for nothing. Their receivers are loaded, their tight end,

772
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: no offense is awesome, Like they really are a quarterback away.

773
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can somehow get there and

774
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers there, but it's like everything it's just weird. They're

775
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: like making these moves as if everything else is settled,

776
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: and uh, it's fun to watch, but I don't know

777
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: if Locks just going to ruin at all. I mean,

778
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: if you looked at their draft and you had been

779
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: told they traded for Aaron Rodgers a week ago, their

780
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: draft would have been like, of course, it makes total sense.

781
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: You've got the quarterback. You've now just turned this into

782
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: a championship roster. But that whole will still sits there. Um.

783
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: I I just don't think that's over yet. And I

784
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: know we already discussed that, but we don't need to

785
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: get hung up on the Rogers thing again. But I

786
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: do think we should just touch on with the update.

787
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Since Thursday, Yahoo Sports reported that Rogers h Charles Robinson

788
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: of Yahoo Sports reported that Rogers won't return to the

789
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: Packers as long as Brian Gutagainst serves as the team's GM.

790
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: Rogers is willing to consider quote hard line options to

791
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: get what he wants from skipping the entire offseason too,

792
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: holding out of training camp to possibly retiring. So fired that, dude,

793
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 1: or I fire myself potentially from your organization. Now. Aaron

794
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: Rodgers is trying to control this a little bit now,

795
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: and he's at a Kentucky derby with that fiance his

796
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: let that hang on a second, and uh, Mike Rico,

797
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: our boy bumped into Rogers. And then Tariko provides a

798
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: live report on his conversations with the Rodgers from the

799
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: Kentucky derby, because that's life. Let's listen to what Rico said, Yeah, characterized.

800
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: Aaron is disappointed that news has come out of this

801
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: rift with the Packers. He expressed a couple of times

802
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: how much he loves screen Bany, loves the fans, loves

803
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: the franchise. There is a fisher. There's a chasm between

804
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: management and the reigning NFL m v P. He's trying

805
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: to He's trying to turn public support, uh and get

806
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: it with him and against management. I just don't know

807
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna work. I don't I think Packers fans and

808
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: football fans, a lot of football fans are smart enough

809
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: to know that that organization is doing very well and

810
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: building up a championship team around him, and to go

811
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: around if this is indeed true and say fire the

812
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: GM or arm out it is. It just doesn't look great.

813
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: It's not a great look. And and the Packers I

814
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: think would be very wise to basically challenge him if

815
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 1: if he's really serious about walking, go ahead and walk,

816
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: because that's not the right way to do things. You're

817
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: exactly right, though, because they've talked about him being aware

818
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: of the perception of him if he were to go.

819
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: This is a like an insane power, which sort of

820
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: the the the offseason sort of theme with these quarterbacks

821
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: is just swinging for the fences for organizational power. But

822
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, you go back and look at like certain

823
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: players talking about Aaron Rodgers earlier in his career that

824
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, he you know, he had his outs

825
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy at the end, and Ryan Grant had

826
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: a quote saying, actually, he he always had a chip

827
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: on the shoulder with Mike McCarthy because Mike McCarthy was

828
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback coach in San Francisco when they took Alex

829
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: Smith over him in the draft. They never really had

830
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: a whole relationship. I mean, this is someone that we

831
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: already know um borders into the petty worlds, holds onto grudges,

832
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: and is now like thinking he's gonna win a perception

833
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: battle with Packers fans who already dealt with a messy

834
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: split with Brett Farve. I mean that took a while

835
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: to heal, so I just wish he was more fourth right, Like,

836
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: don't don't try to make us like I don't think

837
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: we're stupid that like, I'm sorry the news got out,

838
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Like just just own it. I think we could have

839
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: a conversation and about whether it's okay for the quarterback

840
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: to want the GM fired. I don't know, it doesn't

841
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: seem that crazy to me. It's the GM's job to

842
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: literally fire everyone on the team, Like that's what he does.

843
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: He plans for the future and fires everyone. There's someone

844
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: in your organization that makes seventy billion times more than you,

845
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: is that much more valuable to you, and is making

846
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: a power play, just like these gms make power plays,

847
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: Gouda Kunst and La Fleur. I feel like a're having

848
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of a power play. It was all

849
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: this controversy about what the structure was gonna be do

850
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: you remember we had that conversation a year and a

851
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: half ago and there was these separate silos and we're

852
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 1: gonna separate things, and maybe La Fleur is not too

853
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: pleased about this with Gouda Kunts. Then you noticed this

854
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: weekend look from Mike Silver and Jay Glazer that La

855
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: Fleur is making it known he didn't even know Jordan's

856
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: Love was gonna be drafted, and that the cooperation between

857
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: Lo Fleur and the front office is not copasetic, and

858
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: it's not like it is in most NFL places. So

859
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: I read that as La Fleur, you know, trying to

860
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: hold ship together, but also saying I'm on Rogers side,

861
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: and to me that when it's the most important moment

862
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: in you know, your career and your franchises are one

863
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: of the most important moments in your franchise's career. In

864
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: terms of an offseason story, it's kind of implicitly saying

865
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if he was fired either. Well you know,

866
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: but you know, and that we just talked about this

867
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: on Thursday, by the way, or maybe earlier in the

868
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: week when we were talking about Kyler Murray and him

869
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: maybe sending messages about wanting to have uh input, And

870
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: I think it's important that the superstar, these top of

871
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: the line stars be kept in the loop on things

872
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: for this very reason, because they carry such a big stick,

873
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: UM that if you if you get them angry and

874
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: agitate them, it's just going to create issues with the organization.

875
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: So you give them a voice, or at least you listen,

876
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: even if you're not necessarily going to take what they

877
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: say seriously. You just gotta play the game. And I

878
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: just think maybe maybe you can make the case that

879
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is special enough to get the GM fired.

880
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: But that's if the GM is not doing a good job.

881
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: I mean, they're the reason. You can't do that, Greg,

882
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: you can't say I'm in a contract negotiation. Um, I

883
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: view myself as valuable and I feel like I've been

884
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: kind of uh, I've been dismissed in this building. So

885
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: I I announced, I decree I want my boss fired

886
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: because he he messed things up. I mean, I just

887
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: think that's that's just not the way you do it.

888
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's gonna end well. I'm just

889
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: surprised with it. I'll be lucky to get another contract.

890
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean, but Aaron Rodgers is like, I'm just surprised

891
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: player and that in the most valuable person in that organization.

892
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you, right, But Rogers watched Brett Farve kind

893
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: of botched his exit out of Green Bay and make

894
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: it very personal and petty in a way, and I

895
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: just see him kind of making the same mistakes now,

896
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: and it's just funny how history repeats. He has been

897
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: talking about parting ways with the Packers, I mean openly

898
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: since they drafted Jordan's Love, saying look at hey, they

899
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: did this, not me. But here's the bigger thing I

900
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: have with Rogers, because each of these it's not just

901
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: all these elite quarterbacks should have power or not. Some

902
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: don't even want it that way, but for those who do,

903
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: they're not all the same person. And Matt Lafleur, like,

904
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: you know what, it's really easy to look like the

905
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: shiny hero when um, Aaron Rodgers clearly has it out

906
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: for the guy that is sort of in a level

907
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: parallel deal with Matt Laflour. So it's like Matt Laflour's

908
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: siding with Rogers. Here's the right the bet you guarantee

909
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers. You remove gudakanst out of there, he'll

910
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: find someone else to be super annoyed with, and it

911
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: probably will be right. I think you're right, And it

912
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: is funny like we should have kind of seen this

913
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: coming because we've been following this guy's career long enough

914
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: that when they do draft the kid Jordan's love last

915
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: year and Rogers see this publicly about it and then

916
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: comes back and delivers an fu season for the Ages

917
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: and win wins m v P. In your mind, you thought, oh, well,

918
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: he stuck it to his team real good, and now

919
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: he's got the leverage and he's gonna be fine going forward.

920
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: But guys like him are so pathological that it's not

921
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: enough to stick it to the team with the m

922
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: v P season. It's then you need to come back

923
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: and say, I still don't forgive you, even though you

924
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: want to do a new deal with me. I will

925
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: never forgive you forever doubting me and bringing in Jordan's love,

926
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: and I still I'm gonna make a stink until you

927
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: get me out of here. I mean, he's wired that way.

928
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: It's part of what made him great but also maybe

929
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: not always likable. Yeah, trade trade, trade love, you know,

930
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: I think trade love or fire Gouda kunst In. You

931
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: know they they're offering him a contract extension already, so

932
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: we already know that they're constant a volcano. Maybe that

933
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: will be enough. I mean, what what would please Aaron Rodgers, like,

934
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, tie him to a rock for twenty years?

935
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what what would help. The one thing

936
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: that's different about this than most contract stuff, though, is

937
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be totally stunned if Aaron Rodgers did sit

938
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: out the season. I do think that's possible, right, Like,

939
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: I do think if they call his bluff on this

940
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: and don't really do much about it, that he that

941
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: he might sit it out and wait to get it

942
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: next year. He seems like right, it's not about I

943
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: saw that Ian even reported that Ian said something on

944
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: the lines of and Jeopardy is a part of this conversation.

945
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. No, sorry, are you sorry? No?

946
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm just like I don't know, Like, um, the Jeopardy thing,

947
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that, being like cited seriously in the

948
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: reporting about his decision making process, I don't know this.

949
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: This this fiance is I don't know where she's factor

950
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: into this. I would I would have gambled almost not

951
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: at all. Um. I know I know where I know

952
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: where Jeopardy tapes because we used to live right next

953
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: to it. It tapes right there in Culver City here

954
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. That's you know, where does Cheyenne Woodley reside?

955
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: What business does she working in Los Angeles? Based UM career?

956
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just wonder, you know what's going

957
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: on there? You can maybe she's getting in there and saying,

958
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, your horizons are much bigger than this. She

959
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: she didn't seem to be a football fan based on

960
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: comments you know that? Also that read to me maybe

961
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: a little lady macbethish, like maybe there's some that she's

962
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: putting that out there publicly, and then she knows everything

963
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: about the NFL behind the scenes, very lady Macbethish. Anyway,

964
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: let's uh I have I guess we want to bring

965
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: on a couple of minutes. But before that happens, Uh, Mark,

966
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: you want to throw in something else, an observation that

967
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: you have. I I just love um the power of

968
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: the draft to completely change the energy around a team,

969
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: and I got I got to the point last season

970
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: where it was so exhausting to critique the Bears because

971
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Bears fans get it. We got it. It's obvious. It's

972
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: not even an intriguing conversation. And there are a totally

973
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: different team to me. Um, I still question the coach

974
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: GM pairing, but they have a chance with a different

975
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: type of quarterback to show where they are, and I

976
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: feel like the Bears are. It's a completely new day. Um.

977
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier for that fan base, which is

978
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: quiet been you know, dragged through the mud for decades

979
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: in terms of fielding an interesting team, a bunch of

980
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: twelve and four teams that were based off of defense

981
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: and scoring like sixteen points a game. We're Super Bowl

982
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: ever against the Colts. Enough of that nonsense. You've got

983
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: an exciting quarterback. Anything can happen from your own out

984
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: love it. Speaking of that exciting quarterback, like to welcome

985
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: in a special man. Yes, let's welcome a special guest here. Um.

986
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: He is one of seventy five Westling brothers, but right

987
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: near the top of our favorites. Yes, the brother of

988
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: the great late with Chris Westling. Phil Westling. Phil, welcome

989
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: first of all to the Around the NFL Podcast. So

990
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 1: we know you're a listener. Uh so, first time, long

991
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: time for you. What's up, buddy? Hey guys, how's it coring?

992
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: This has to be like a lifelong dream you're realizing

993
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: right now, Phil, Well, absolutely quite. And I noticed right

994
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: off the top, Uh, Phil sending a message, and we're

995
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: gonna ask him his feelings about Justin Fields, a huge

996
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: Ohio State fan, lives right next to the Ohio State

997
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: campus there in the suburbs of Columbus. But I see

998
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: you're wearing a Maine It looks like it's an anchor

999
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: with the word Maine the state. And is that was that?

1000
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: Appointed critique at some recent comments that Greg Rosenthal made. Yeah,

1001
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean you guys, you guys can't just kick Maine

1002
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: out of the Union all of a sudden. We I mean,

1003
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: Chris wouldn't let you guys get away with it anyways,

1004
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: to comments you made because he knows we vacation in Maine. Who, Well,

1005
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: hold on a minute here, I'll allow Greg to you know, respond,

1006
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: But I I think I sometimes with these, with these

1007
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: things that happened, you get clumped in. Like I used

1008
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: to go to Bar Harbor. I mean I did a

1009
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: bunch of trips up to me and with friends, like

1010
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: nothing started. You guys started honking about me. I said

1011
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: nothing negative about Maine. I had seven and and and

1012
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: cut it down because it was getting out of control

1013
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: quite frankly. Now, Greg, you you probably were utterly disrespectful.

1014
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: I would only imagined I don't. I mean, I love

1015
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: me and I've been there multiple times too. It's beautiful.

1016
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: It just somehow came up. You know, it's fun to

1017
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: it's fun to have a joke. And if you had to,

1018
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, pick like a state to get rid of it.

1019
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like it would just it would be

1020
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: one of the options at least that that was it.

1021
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: But it's beautiful. I knew they could take a joke.

1022
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, no one's more sarcastic than the hearty folks

1023
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: of me. I mean, they gotta be funny. They's like

1024
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: they only have like electricity half the time, so you

1025
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: gotta use Here we go. This is what I'm Phil,

1026
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: That's that's the disrespect. I know that you speak of.

1027
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: Sorry that you have to hear it, Phil, Well, we

1028
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: we vacation in the Northeast quite frequently and there um Portland, Maine,

1029
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: Kenny Bunkport, and uh, just south of there, Portsmouth, New

1030
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: Hampshire is one of our favorite's. My brother lives right

1031
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: outside of Portsmouth. I had my bachelor party at Portsmouth.

1032
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you are You and I are basically the same.

1033
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: I went to college at you n H and spent

1034
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: many nights out in Portsmouth. This is a great issue. Yeah,

1035
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: this is right. So Phil and I do legendary I

1036
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: imagine those road trips from the west side of Cincinnati

1037
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: up to Maine. That's that's a bit of a hike.

1038
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: But uh, let's talk justin fields because you, um, you've

1039
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: been on fields. I know you and west Chris used

1040
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: to text about him a lot and talk about him

1041
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: a lot um as a guy that is a potential

1042
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: transcendent type talent. Now, where does your analysis as a

1043
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: college football fan and in your homerism begin? Are you

1044
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: able to separate those two things or you are? Are

1045
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: you going to acknowledge part of this goes back to

1046
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: what his study he was for your favorite football team. Well,

1047
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: I at first I was like the Bears, Come on, man,

1048
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: not the Bears, But then started thinking about it and

1049
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, they were eight and eight last year.

1050
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: I mean they could he give him a few more

1051
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: wins and make them, uh that much better of a team.

1052
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: And I think the answer is yes, he could. Well

1053
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: what makes him special? You saw the speed four fourth

1054
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: and I think that Gregg touched on this a little

1055
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: bit ago in a couple of podcasts prior. I mean

1056
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: the guy throws a nice deep ball, I mean downfield passes.

1057
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. He was always considered number

1058
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: two before all this draft nonsense went on. But he's

1059
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: he's in my mind, um right there with Trevor. It's

1060
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: weird because he made you know, the National championship. He

1061
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: you know, outplays Lawrence, you know, incredibly productive, and yet

1062
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: I do wonder if he had like opted out and

1063
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: didn't even play this season, what do you've got higher?

1064
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: It was almost like, you know, people people like the

1065
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: new shiny thing that you know that was Wilson, like

1066
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 1: Lance did not hurt him to opt out. It was surprising,

1067
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: but like, do you do you like what what is

1068
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: the biggest problem? Some people say he holds the ball

1069
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: a little too long, maybe a little bit of Russell Wilson,

1070
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: But then I think, like, you know, it takes a

1071
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: lot of sacks, but then I think, like who takes

1072
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks and holds the ball more than

1073
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: anyone in their careers, like Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.

1074
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: Like that style can work as long as you're not

1075
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: turning the ball over. Like, what is your biggest concern

1076
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: when it comes to fields? Um, it could be it's

1077
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: it's a problem with college football. It's like that you

1078
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: play too many teams that aren't on your level, and

1079
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: you you get too much time in the pocket, right,

1080
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: and then you get to the NFL and you don't.

1081
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: You don't have that much time anymore with the Bears.

1082
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: And he took a lot of sacks in college to write, Yeah, yeah,

1083
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: he didn't take a lot of sacks, but he has

1084
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: an ability to uh maybe avoid sock sax sometimes too,

1085
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: which is like, hey be he always thinks he can

1086
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: avoid the sack and you just can't all the time.

1087
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: So with his quickness and his you know, ability to

1088
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: get out of the pocket, sometimes it may it may

1089
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: be a fault of his that he thinks he can

1090
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: avoid it too many times. Is there any bias, um

1091
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: out there amongst scouts you think for the Ohio State

1092
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: quarterback position. I mean there have been a lot of

1093
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: great Ohio state college quarterbacks and this is true of

1094
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: other programs too. We could look at Alabama UM, but

1095
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: then how many have really completely towered in the NFL.

1096
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean there's been more flameouts and Dwayne Haskins being

1097
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: the most recent. I mean, I think that this is

1098
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: a completely different player. But is there that bias packed

1099
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: in with some of these schools? Well, I was, I

1100
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: was thinking about. I mean, what is UM quarterback university?

1101
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean, which university puts out the most quarterbacks to

1102
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: lane to lane for a while? J P. Lassman, you

1103
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: know Patrick ran Oklahoma, I'd go Oklahoma. I go Oklahoma

1104
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? But I mean where did my homes

1105
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: come from? I mean, where did the Mark Jackson come from?

1106
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean they're not I don't know. I mean where

1107
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: did Brett Farve come from? One offs, you think, do

1108
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: you think he's a star? You think that you think

1109
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: Justin Field is gonna be a star at this level

1110
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: when you watch him and you've watched college football and

1111
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: the pros for decades, where do you come down with us?

1112
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Give pup him up? This is your boy, him up.

1113
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: I think he has the it factor. I mean if

1114
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: you look at and I was texting, uh, Chris during

1115
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: the game against Clemson this year, and I mean that

1116
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: happens to be a six TD game for Justin Fields.

1117
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and he says he's got everything you need

1118
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: and he throws a sexy beat ball quoting the great

1119
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: t D. He's he's played through pain. I mean, I

1120
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: think that, you know, his teammates seem to totally love him.

1121
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how he got hop scotched by Zack Wilson, um,

1122
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: but the draft does weird things. But I mean, for me,

1123
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: this is small potatoes. And I know that Chris especially,

1124
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: I thought pro days were just utterly useless, and maybe

1125
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: they are accepted. What having the Matt Jones Pro day

1126
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: unfurling literally at the same time that the Justin Fields was, Um,

1127
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, I just sat down to watch, and I

1128
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: know how Matt Jones made me feel. It was very

1129
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: like having a nice cheese sandwich or something. I don't know,

1130
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: but like suddenly you're watching Justin Fields and the imagination

1131
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: starts to spend so to me that I don't know

1132
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: how to detect these things sometimes, but he seems like

1133
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: the next level excitement at least and he's gonna make

1134
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: the Bears watchable for the first time in a while.

1135
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: Well sure, I mean you guys probably have seen the

1136
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: hit he took against Clemson in the semifinals, and and

1137
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: so for him to get up and then he played

1138
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean Alabama, Let's face it, nobody was beating Alabama

1139
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: this year, right. I do wonder if he's like how

1140
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: he's wired, uh in terms of falling in the draft.

1141
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: And you never want to overreact to like when the

1142
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: ESPN cameras or NFL network cameras cut to him, but

1143
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: he did not look thrilled, you know that that he

1144
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: fell so far it was not a celebratory Hey, I

1145
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: got picked eleventh, which isn't, you know, necessarily a bad thing.

1146
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Rodgers was piste off the whole time

1147
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: he was falling, and there there's a history of guys

1148
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: doing that. I don't know, I hope that wasn't. Like

1149
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: about daying I got stuck with the Bears, Like, how

1150
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: do you think he's gonna be on a little bit

1151
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: of a revenge tour because his whole life he's been

1152
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: told he's the guy. Him and Lawrence were the number

1153
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: one and two recruits in the country when they came

1154
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: out of high school, like all throughout the last few years,

1155
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: like it's supposed to be him and Lawrence are one

1156
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: two and he ends up get getting passed by this

1157
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: b y U guy and you know they're talking about

1158
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: mac Jones might even go in in front of him

1159
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: and in the North Dakota State guy goes in front

1160
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: of Do you think he's gonna be like fired up

1161
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: to prove everyone wrong. I think even this year in

1162
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: the in the game against Clemson, he was fired up

1163
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: to prove everybody wrong. And you saw what happened. So

1164
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean he gonna be fired up once

1165
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: again and hopefully the same thing happens that he You know,

1166
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm a Bears fan by any means, but now you

1167
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: gotta buy it. I mean you're sending Kesha and West.

1168
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: Uh you know Ohio State sweaters and stuff. You gotta

1169
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: get some Bears gear. Now, I don't know we uh

1170
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: we were Patriots fans in this house, m Rough, Well

1171
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: you were, you almost got you almost would you almost

1172
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: had Justin Fields on the Pats, and I know we

1173
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: were rooting for like oh, Greg was crying in his

1174
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: beer about that on Thursday night. Um. You know, so

1175
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, we this is our first draft show without Chris, um,

1176
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: and you know that's we're still getting used to all that.

1177
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: But it's great to have another Westling brother here. And uh,

1178
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: I know, we you guys, and there's plans for a

1179
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: memorial over in your neck of the woods, uh, at

1180
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: a place that was very special to you and the

1181
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: rest of the brothers, and that's great, and we're all

1182
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: going to gather at some point of this summer together

1183
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to seeing you there. But just

1184
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: wanted to let you know that just having you on

1185
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: the show, uh, you know, makes us feel closer to Chris.

1186
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for joining us, buddy. Yeah,

1187
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for having me. All right, thank you.

1188
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: There he goes the great Phil Westling. Love that guy,

1189
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: one of the great nice guys, I mean, one on

1190
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: one of one of Chris's favorite brothers. Let's be real,

1191
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean the top seven. Uh. I was like eighteen

1192
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: months younger than him, so I mean he was really

1193
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: somebody who I looked up to and like the smartest

1194
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: guy in the room most of the time when he

1195
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: was in this room too. So I'm not surprised. I

1196
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: like to think that most of the time is when

1197
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: you guys were in deep arguments, and maybe Nick was

1198
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: involved to things getting heated up, you know. Um, all right,

1199
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: Phil the great to see buddy, and we'll let's see

1200
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: Sue down the line. All right, thanks for having me there,

1201
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: he goes, all right. Phil reminds me of West as

1202
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: much as any of them in the way that like

1203
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: I wish he was still on. Hopefully he listens. Uh,

1204
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: just that he was there for for Chris. You know,

1205
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time with Phil in that

1206
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: last week Chris's life, and no one was there for

1207
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: Chris and and Keisha more than Phil, and I mean

1208
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: in West, more than Phil meant a lot. That's the

1209
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: real deal stuff, right there, when when the cards are

1210
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: really down, and especially when there's logistical challenges, because Phil

1211
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: has a whole life set up over in the Midwest

1212
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: and a family and a job, and and he was

1213
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: out here not just not just this most recent about

1214
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: with cancer, but the first one as well. Um, so

1215
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: that is a very good man and we I hope,

1216
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: I hope Justin Fields makes him look smart in his career.

1217
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of attempting to look smart. Let's check in and

1218
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: go get my lunch. Uh, the it is now closed.

1219
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: We we set the parameters. Everything locks in after the

1220
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: end of the seventh round and um through this show

1221
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: until we get to this point. So let's start with

1222
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Zach Ertz won't be a member of the

1223
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Eagles by the end of the draft. And I'm the

1224
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: only one that took you on this one, I believe,

1225
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: unless I missed it in the news stack, zach Ertz

1226
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: still a member of the Philadelphia Football Club. I've lost

1227
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: that one. It's crystal clear, all right, and out of

1228
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: control animal will cause chaos at the draft. Both Greg

1229
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: and I took you up on that one. Well, we

1230
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: don't know that didn't happen, but I I lost that too.

1231
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: But I would say that the the the rainy weather

1232
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: did not help that scenario. I would have been hoping

1233
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: more for like a big, sunshiny weekend where there were

1234
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: animals out about on the scene, you know, sunny Friday

1235
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: and Saturday. It's pretty nice. Finally, nudity is seen during

1236
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: draft coverage. Now, this one's a little interesting, and I'll

1237
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: Mark if you want to try to stump on this one.

1238
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: Someone did send us a screen draw a screen grab

1239
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: of a um a zaftag Man. I think we have

1240
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: that actually, Um, Dewey Eric, if you there's a full

1241
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: figured man lifting up his shirt, patting his belly, nipples

1242
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: exposed in the background of a stage shot. Uh, does

1243
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: do you say that counts as nudity? Um? I would

1244
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: suggest that his measurements um could be viewed as voluptuous.

1245
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: But I don't think that that works at all to

1246
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: be I'm not gonna I know what I need to

1247
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: push for something. Um, It's just it's that he could

1248
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: be he'd be allowed to walk down the street with

1249
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: his sweatshirt up over his male nipples. So I'm not

1250
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: going to count that if that if I'm being technical enough,

1251
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on to Greg Rosenthal. The Patriots

1252
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: draft Justin Yields. They're just male nipples. Well, I mean

1253
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: it is. You know we're gonna go Uh yeah, So

1254
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: Broncos draft a QB in the first round. No they

1255
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: did not, So they are they're feeling good. Now, maybe

1256
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: they wanted Aaron Rodgers. But you know where this is

1257
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: gonna go. This is gonna go to a really fascinating

1258
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: training camp battle between the two most born quarterbacks in

1259
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: the league Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Luck Sorry not personal. Finally,

1260
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: no running backs are drafted in the first round. Uh No,

1261
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: two were drafted in fact, so Greg, you took the

1262
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: l and all three of those all right, the zoos

1263
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 1: or a starting QB from gets traded during draft week,

1264
01:04:54,080 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: excluding Jimmy Garoppolo. We didn't go out for nine. You

1265
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: got that one before I started. I'm willing to, like

1266
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't want to turn in just to

1267
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: turn into something ugly. But there are tweets that I've

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Speaker 1: gotten that said be and I know Greg's attached to

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Speaker 1: these two always muted or blocked essentially everyone on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: But like they basically said, um go part the language

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Speaker 1: from that last show where we offer the sandwich props

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Speaker 1: that the Teddy Bridgewater transaction did not apply to what

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Speaker 1: you said. That said. I am not here to put

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Speaker 1: too much on what way it had to be during

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Speaker 1: the draft or something. I believe that what he said

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Speaker 1: was from like Thursday through Saturday on the show something

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Speaker 1: like that day. But I would just say, let's investigate,

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Speaker 1: but let's just keep that as I would say, if

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Speaker 1: you guys want to deny me that then I am

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Speaker 1: totally comfortable with it. You would have to, I guess,

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Speaker 1: on a way live with that um. But the reality

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: is someone would have to go listen to it. I

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01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. I don't either. The effort

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Speaker 1: is too much. So yeah, then you get it by default,

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Speaker 1: unless Ricky goes back. Jets trade up in the first

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Speaker 1: round and draft a wide receiver. They did trade up

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Speaker 1: in the first round. They did not draft a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: They drafted a left guard, Greg and Mark makes Sandwiches.

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01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy g traded to the Pats during the draft. You

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Speaker 1: had you heard on the Jets pulse there with the

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Speaker 1: trade up to do something frisky. I think that could

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Speaker 1: have happened, because they of course took a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Then with their first pick in the third round. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if one of those big three guys was still there,

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Speaker 1: if that was where they would have went with that pick,

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Speaker 1: But probably not. It sounds like they were really They

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01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: gave up two thirds for Tucker. They gave two thirds

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Speaker 1: in the first for a guard. They they seemed to

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Speaker 1: really believe in Varia Tucker. So there you go, go

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Speaker 1: get my lunch, alright. Any other final thoughts before we

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Speaker 1: move on. Let's let's go rapid fire. The fact that

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Speaker 1: a man who uh is named two two and wade

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01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: under a hundred and fifty pounds recently was drafted in

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01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: the second round is amazing to me. Let's promote bodied

1305
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: diversity here, well, I mean the Rams wide receiver recently

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01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: waited under one fifty. He played at one fifty five,

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01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: and he got drafted the second round. It is wild

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01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: to see the NFL is changing that. That's even like

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Speaker 1: possible tray sermon drafted by the forty Niners. I feel like,

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Speaker 1: for all the hype of all these running backs, he

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Speaker 1: might be my number one. I love I love him.

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Speaker 1: I watched him in January and I just love the

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Speaker 1: landing spot. I think he is going to be fantastic

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Speaker 1: for the Niners. Did the Cowboys guy kind of got

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01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: the award for getting boned the most times because the

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01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: Raiders traded one pick ahead of them to take the

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01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: top safety on the board that supposedly the Cowboys were

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01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: gonna take. So that was their first and second round

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Speaker 1: pick that were sniped. And then I thought, McCarthy and

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Speaker 1: you winded this out to Mark McCarthy Jones and Jones

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: did it almost like exaggerated fist bump for the camera

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01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: to like show everyone's like, Oh, we're not mad that

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01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: some team just went right in front of us to

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01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: take our pick for the second time. Yeah. My take

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Speaker 1: on Mike McCarthy's body language was that he was not

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01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: unlike Patty Hurst. He just seemed to be um under

1327
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Speaker 1: every and anybody that's been in part of a fantasy

1328
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: draft knows what it feels like too. There's that one

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01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: guy that's in front of you and it's almost like

1330
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: he's reading your mind and he's just sticking it to you.

1331
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:40,520
Speaker 1: In a big spot. We have a new Mr Irrelevant

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: and as you know, the clock is taking on that name.

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01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: Could bet on it will be Uh. He'll be renamed

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Speaker 1: Mr Special probably at some point, Mr. Mr Brave, Mr Brave.

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01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: I only got five more years to win this sandwich.

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01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: The future. Mr Brave is the bucket the years. UH

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01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: linebacker Grant Stewart at the University of Houston picked in

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Speaker 1: the seventh round, number two fifty nine overall. So there

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Speaker 1: you go, the final pick in the draft. Did you

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01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: have anything to add more? Well, you know, Greg talked

1341
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: about how much things are changing in various ways, whether

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01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: it's individual player UM, scouting methods, what we accept in

1343
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: terms of body types. But think about how we started

1344
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: this podcast and where we were we back when, and

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01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: the the concept that this was said. UM. During last

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Speaker 1: night's NFL draft, Ricky Hollywood fired it up one of

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: our draft picks. But things are ridiculously crazy at this

1348
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: draft in particularly, so I wanted to come out and

1349
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: say this. I will see you all right here for

1350
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: the show tomorrow night, and I will also see you

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: at two two when the Cleveland Browns when the super

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01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: Bowl at Wait, so machine gun Kelly is a Browns

1353
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: fan now too? Is that where we're at? You know

1354
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: it's sweeping the nation's just you feel a movement and

1355
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: howards where we're going was annoyed because machine gut Kelly

1356
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: was supposed to announce a pick and he messed it

1357
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: up and like the whole telecast got ground to a

1358
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: halt for a minute or two and not so quietly

1359
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: like put it on Kelly that just like he I

1360
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: think he just went off the reservation. He left the

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01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: bucks and out in the cold. He was supposed to

1362
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 1: announce the bucks back well, he had a kind of

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01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 1: machine gun Kelly. He likes to present himself as something

1364
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: of a James Dean type game changing character. There's a

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of famous story about him that he went to

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01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,480
Speaker 1: some type of board meeting for his record label and um,

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01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: so it was like a bunch of like you know,

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 1: corporate people all sitting around a big table and turned

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: up the new single that he was he wanted to promote,

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01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: and then he like jumped up on the table and

1371
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: did like he rocked out for the entire song and

1372
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: the entire places, Like, what is this guy's deal? Who

1373
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: is this person? Why does he exist? Well, he's in

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Speaker 1: the dog Pound if you need to find machine Gun Kelly. Oh,

1375
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: by the way over on DraftKings Rookie of the Year

1376
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 1: odds as Rickie also chimes in, he's he's with Megan

1377
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: Fox as well. Machine It makes me feel because I

1378
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: was not familiar with him. I had never heard of

1379
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: him before. Megan Fox feels like a lot to handle, Like,

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01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: she's all right, machine Gun Kelly. Yeah, he's a a

1381
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: rapper of some kind. But then he was on sl

1382
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 1: and he was playing guitar and he's like, okay, pickle

1383
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: in bro DraftKings um Rookie of the Year favorites Trevor

1384
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: Lawrence at plus three hundred, my boy Zack Wilson at

1385
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: plus six to justin Fields plus six under Trey Lance,

1386
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: plus six under Mac Jones plus one thousand, top five,

1387
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: top five and finally their quarterback and Kyle in a

1388
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: hand's good team. Little Kyle pets to throw him in,

1389
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 1: Got some, got some saucy uh, and Pat Friar Muth

1390
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the list plus four thousand. Keep

1391
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: keep an eye on friar Muth. All right, it's a

1392
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, please and um Finally, and of

1393
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: course this could not pass without being discussed, the Seahawks

1394
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: quietly made a move of ahead of the first round

1395
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: of the draft. They signed defensive tackle Robert Kim DJ

1396
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: club announced on Thursday. He hasn't been on a roster

1397
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: since when he appeared in two games with the Dolphins

1398
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: before Miami waved him in November. Former first round pick,

1399
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: he's been tracked very closely on the show. As everyone knows,

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: um uh because he fell out a window leading up

1401
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: to the draft. The first round pick went to the

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01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals or some concerns about you know, his off the

1403
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 1: field stuff. Guy went out a window at the middle

1404
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of a college party. Uh, kind of

1405
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: sealed a bit of his reputation and then he kind

1406
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: of bombed out. But now he's back and you know

1407
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: where I'm going with this. Guys, take us there, lay

1408
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: it in da chick India. Check, indeed check. Why did

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: you fall out that ween? Though we thought you fell

1410
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: out of hourly, he about your back and that's sweet

1411
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: and it's all because of Pete the Carol is the

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Speaker 1: savior of GM, d J M d J, kim d

1413
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: J kim d e J. You fell out that wind,

1414
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: but we fell for you. Take these chance either door,

1415
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: walk on through, take these chants by that door, the

1416
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: windows not for you, dream aloud. We'll be back on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday with another addition. He run the NFL podcast Thank

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01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: You for Everybody. To follow up Dan had signing off

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01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: for the Quiet Storm Guild Boss and Ricky Hall. Of

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: course Bill Weston, you love you, buddy. They'll choose to

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Speaker 1: heat the